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Sexual imagery Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor :

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/

Dominated: >>163899109
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Alright, shadowbabs, how do we save this game in the West?
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>>163916907
save it from what?
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>>163916907
Save it from what, the hearthstone hordes invading?
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>>163916907
Become a popular Twitch streamer who has a target age of 12.
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>>163916907
tell Cygames to hire a bunch of viewbots on twitch like Blizzard did with HS and OW
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>kripp got mushushu'd twice in arena
>outplayed by satan twice
Why is he such a shit player?
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>>163916907
it's fine
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>>163916818
>tfw feel curious about RoB Blood
>tfw have literally no blood cards for anything else but GO BLOODKIN!
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Now we know what is better than free packs.

Free rupees!
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Reminder that Aggro Bats is the worst Aggro deck
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>>163917028
You have memes.
That is more than enough.
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>>163917035
Where's the free elf pussy tough?
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How often do Vampy and her mom get to hang out together?
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>>163917035
What if we got free crystals!?
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>have extra enough for 17000 vials

I suppose I will wait another 13 more hours before crafting the rest of Gold I need for Shadow.
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>>163916907
Honestly the best thing that can happen if SV starts advertising on Crunchyroll, or partner up with Crunchy, or get a big booth and anime cons. The anime fanbase is ripe and will give definitely give waifustone a try. The fun factor and all the free shit is already good enough for those braindead subscribers.

It's not doing that bad right now. Expansion day we'll see a surge of players. It'll possibly break steam 10k.
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>>163917120
I've done it once or twice.

Vampy is just not good at living, unlike Queenie.
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if you don't get otohime and/or tsubaki in your sword arena draft, just retire it.
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>turn 5 CONTINOUS skulfane
>cant be attacked

what the fuck were they thinking
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I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PAGES FOR DECKS TOMORROW AAAAAAA.
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Somewhat new player here. Why is control forest not a thing? Is it simply outclassed by ptp, or is it bad for some other reason?

I've been tempted to brute force it lately.
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>>163917028
>tfw Temptress will never tempt you
Brb, getting run over by a truck.
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>>163917320
I believe the new expansion has a couple of interesting control-cards for forest, but none of them seems as strong as just using aggressive cards.
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>>163917324

>Temptress

You mean Sexy. As in, Sexy Vampire.
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Play Discard Dragon
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>>163917320
Forest is spoiled by easiest purg and ancient/tia/roach, so it shuns all non premium performance cards
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I want to have more FUN with shadow
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>tried to make a suicide bats deck
>lost 11 out of 13 test ranked games with it
i only swapped out 6 cards from my normal bats deck that i win most games with so what the fuck
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>RoB in 13 hours
>10 free packs
>1100 gold to buy packs or leaders in a few days

AHHHHHHHHHH
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>have a hand full of fairies
>never ever get a single wind god, cynthia, tia, ancient elf or roach over a span of 8 turns
this fucking RNG sometimes
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>try to meme with Tyrant
>keep him in starting hand
>immideately draw another one in the first 2 turns
>die because I can't play anything on curve
>don't keep Tyrant
>die because Tyrant just won't fucking come out

I fucking hate this game.
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>>163917375
Yeah, they definitely have some interesting tools in their arsenal that could support a control-oriented deck. Which only further raises my confusion.

>>163917404
I figured it was something along those lines, but stuff like tia and maybe ancient could still be used in a control deck. Might not be a top tier deck, but it should work to some extent.
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>>163917324

>tfw Temptress will never bite your neck and start sucking your blood while you pump your seed deep into her womb in leg-locked position
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>>163917431

Bloodbed sucks
Angelic barrage has no place
Dark general either
Demonic storm seems like a dead draw in this aggro deck
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>>163917320
There's never been a good framework for it. Rose Queen and Silver Bolt aren't reliable win cons on their own, neither provides inevitability or stabilize. Removal is decent but not on par with other control, and the best removal in Will works poorly in a frame that wants to answer a lot. PtP works really well because you sacrifice nothing for it.
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>literally nothing in the new expansion pack changes anything about the meta

prove me wrong

protip

you cant
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Can I get a concede please?

84633
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>>163917535
I can
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>>163917530
I did consider the issue of a win condition. But could you not simply overwhelm your opponent with fat threats until they no longer have answers to them? I currently play control blood, and in a lot of match ups that's what I end up doing.
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>>163917535
>It's 8 PP do nothing all over again
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>>163917431
Because that isn't suicide?
That deck is half-assed.

Flowerbed and Dark General without Lykos and Mary is a terrible idea.
Basically the suicide part isn't gonna kill your opponent, just you.

You took some important cards for bat blood so suddenly that is iffy as well.
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>>163917382
Honestly, Temptress Vampire is fine and even an improvement.

Sexy Vampire sounds like grammatically correct but awkward ESL English because it's not how a native speaker would choose to name a card or a title. See also: Baby Erufu May.
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>>163917431
I'm the anon from the other thread. I tried Flowerbed for a while but you end up dying way too fast.
Playing around with this now. Midnight vamp is too reliant on the bats but I'll stick with it for a few more games.
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>>163917535
aggro rune will be tier zero and i am honestly may have to drop this game when inevitably does

unless they released a cool runecraft leader, then i could at least become the cancer
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>>163917298
tempoloss, can also be removed
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>>163917642
H-Hear
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>>163917686
You are retarded. I bet you also say Lord Atomy instead of Skeleton King.
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>>163917298
>takes up a slot
>breaks all amulets open for the opponent to deal with
>5 mana do nothing
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>>163917686
Temptress is fine, yeah.
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>>163917746
I say Lord Atomeme
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>>163917746
I want to Nono in her secret laboratory if you know what I mean.
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thoughts on this?
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>>163917748
there's plenty of amulets that are GREAT for breaking early, particularly, all of the ones that have followers with ward.
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>>163917434
Didn't know Japan could be so based,I take back what I said about needing a 3rd nuke.
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>>163917298
>turn 5 Eidolon
>opponent floods board
>turn 6 Themis
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>>163917710
>muh tempo meme
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Does the new xpac go live on the 29th Jap time?
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>>163917842
>not 4 guardian sun
>not 6 shrine knight maiden
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>>163917870
>Guardian Sun in the same deck as Eidolon

??
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Does Bahamut destroy your own shit too?
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>>163917863
>Elana will be unplayable, muh tempo loss
>Seraph is 8PP lose the game
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>>163917748
How do you like instant Barongs, triple foxes and fucking rabbits?
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>>163917907
big difference between 3pp and 5pp and it's considerably harder and more fruitless to remove elana than it is to remove eidolon
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>8pp 3/8
>Rush Bane SMOrc
>"If your opponent doesn't remove this card in his next turn, win the game"
Seems fair
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>>163917897
yes

so expect to see it in haven craft
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>>163917897
If by shit you mean your chances of winning then yes.
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>>163917535
Forest gets good wards and some support for Rose Queen/Silver Bolt control archetypes, nothing too remarkable.

Sword gets a lot of good lategame cards and a mini-Aurelia.

Rune gets a lot of love, mostly geared to more fast-paced aggro decks with shit like Daria, Ogler, Piercing Rune. ER also gets Taboos and Dwarf which helps a lot.

With so many new support cards for disco dragon I can't see it not being at least T2. Also they got the good half of the cross-class lesbians.

Blood gets better clears and strong minions.

Shadow got more RNG memes and some serious last word powers, also Sexton.

Haven gets a cancer amulet popper and one Elena synergy card.
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>>163917636
We're getting deep into midrange territory here but basically, Forest lacks the relevant threats. That may change tomorrow but right now, most of your big cards are reliant on little ones to function and those compete for resources. Forest actually has a pretty poor overall pool outside of the broken cards worth playing everywhere, it's much more slanted than most crafts.
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>>163917937

Just like Seraph and Dshift's face.
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>>163917937
every 8pp card is going to be trash as long as dshift exists
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>>163917986
Delete this
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Rate my dailies forest deck
ggca
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>>163917986
He deals face damage and removes wards if dshift decides to throw one on deck. He's fine for dshift meta.
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Can people please rate my Elana deck? I just built it.
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>>163917986
>dim shift, purg, seraph. elana, roach otks*
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>Fanfare: Gain +X/+0. X equals the attack of the strongest enemy follower in play.
why is no one talking about this card, he's literally a 2 point pluto
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>>163918058
he's not gonna remove anything unless you evolve him but that means saving an evo point for turn 8 but then you could play dance + trooper for the same pp and more damage
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95294
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>>163918114
>literally
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>>163918114
2 defense

lmao

2 defense
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>>163917967
I think the new legendary could change that up. An expensive card that costs 0 is plenty scary, especially considering cards like Ancient Forest Dragon or Silver Bolt.
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>>163918130
>he's not gonna remove anything unless you evolve him
What did he mean by this?
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>>163917701
>>163917701
>die too fast
>not even lykos
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>>163917925
Would you put 3 eidolons in a deck just to make this shit work? I can't see a way for it to be useful while also filling your deck with bad amulets like that.
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>>163918130
>Comparing 1 card to 2 cards.
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>>163918130
He's got bane
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>>163917937
>Another pseudo-storm for banner
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>forestcuck manages to get 30 shadows by turn 6
>I'm convinced I lost the game
>about to concede when I see the amulet get dropped
>it's titania's sanctuary
Easiest win of my life
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>>163918208
oh my bad I forgot

>>163918193
two cards that are always useful vs one that's going to be dead in your hand until turn 8
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>>163918130
>he's not gonna remove anything unless you evolve him
He has rush and bane.
>play dance + trooper
>2 cards
>1 card
In a perfect world where I always have the hand I need I'd drop a ruthless assassin centaur centaur.
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>>163918150
still the most versatile 2 point follower in the entire game
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>>163918101
anyone? Advice pls
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>>163918214
>8 pp
>Banner

I bet you think blader is good too.
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>>163917986
>implying DShift won't be nerfed to 20pp
The best thing about how DShift is designed is the devs can adjust its initial pp cost it so it matches the average game length for other wincons.

Zoo-oriented aggro decks will kill DShift at turn 6 or 7.

>>163918214
>Banner
>8pp followers
I bet you run avant bladers
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>>163918225
Titania's is my best bro in arena, won so many matches just due to that card.
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>>163918243
>banner
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>>163918260
>le avant blader is bad meme
When does it ever end?
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>>163918138
Can you concede to me as well after?
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>>163917748
>>5 mana do nothing
literally every card with no fanfare is a x mana do nothing then with your retarded logic
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>>163917925
Problem is then you've spent your first 5 turns not doing anything.
So you die.
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>>163918138
Thanks senpai
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>>163918309
>decking another commander in a deck that relies on a specific commander to speed up and win the game
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>>163917204
Has Cygames celebrated Shadowverse reaching an amount of downloads or accounts made? Hoping for game milestone rewards. We can easily reach the latter what with account refills.
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>>163918324
Dies to DoD too.
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>>163918256
He's really not. Typically he's weak on curve and only turns on from 4-6 to counter an evo at a trade, if you also have another card to play beside him.
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What time does the expansion hit?
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>>163916907
https://youtu.be/p9PmWnM2W6I
>ANIME TIDDIES
>OOH HOT ART
>not even reading the effect texts
>not one comment on the gameplay
These are the kind of fags you want to play the game when you wish SV is more popular, fuck off.
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>>163918260
>>163918309
Unlike other aggro decks banner can easily keep going into the late game.
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>>163918362
It prevents you from ruunning out of steam which is a easy thing to do in banner
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>>163918425
10 hours
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>>163917967
The problem with Forest is that its good cards are insanely powerful, especially since playing 2 cards beforehand is fucking nothing, and they have answers to literally everything. They even get a huge heal in Fairy Beast.
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>>163918432
CONSCRIPTION
2PP
DRAW 2 OFFICERS WHEN BANNER IS OUT.
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>>163918432
>Running out of steam
>in banner
Man, you'd really really hate aggro blood.
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>>163918480
Thanks!
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>>163918425
In about 13 hours. Then 10 hours of downtime.

>>163918364
>implying Cygames isn't well aware of rerolling culture and dupe accounts.
Steam has a 8k player all-time peak
Play Store reports 100k downloads
App Store and DMM has jack shit for stats

I find that 6 million download milestone very sketchy.
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>>163918364
They gave out free Lucifer, Gabriel and Prince of Darkness and packs back in the day for 2, 3, 4, 5 million downloads
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So I am curious about everyone's take on this matter.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11972843
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oi mates

will we get some free Rise of Bahamut packs on its release? or not?
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>>163918260
Quick blader is really good yeah
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>>163918527
But rerolling has nothing to do with downloads.
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>>163918573
10 packs
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>>163918527
>I find that 6 million download milestone very sketchy.
Google play and Apple app store have seperate apps for International and Japanese versions.
Its the Japanese ones that have all the players
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>>163918527
does japan have any other mobile app stores?
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Maintenance starts at 2-3 hours from now. Get on with your dailies, guys.
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>>163918504
Not really. I love bats and I never run out of steam since I actual run blood pact.
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>>163918573
10 packs and 11 packs worth of gold if you login for 5 days starting from the actual holiday New Year's Eve..
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Play Ungacraft.
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>>163918662
I will again in rob, taking a break from ranked meanwhile.
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>>163918638
Nah, you don't even need to login for 5 days.

You could just skip until the last day and get them all.
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>>163918673
it will be complete shit in RoB though

too much removal with Lucius and Blood's new toys
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>>163918548
My answer isn't there, retard. You only vial when you have them to spend. Never.
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>>163918548
option number 4

i will never have enough autism to horde up 10k+ vials in extras, and i dust all my shit lego's
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>>163918709
>lucius being run
lmao
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>>163918638

Wait, did I read this correctly?

21 packs in total, assuming you spend all the gold on those packs?

Are you shitting me. I fucking love these people.
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>Lose against DShift because I can't pump out enough damage early game
>Thinking about making my elf deck full tempo instead of having 2 PTP+Altered Fates as a fallback plan
>tech them out for that 2pp attack booster fairy.
>matchup is all Elenas who run seraphs, games last until turn 13+ where they finally draw Seraph and win with amulet poppers next turn
>tech PTP back in
>DShift, DShift, DShift

I swear this shit is rigged.
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Bye DE
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>>163917298
>at the start of your turn evolve this follower

For what purpose?
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>>163918736
doesn't he cost 5pp?

perfect for a comeback if you go first
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I have 75k vials ready
soon
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>>163918736
He will be run in Neutral decks
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>>163918628
>and I never run out of steam since I actual run blood pact.
it really makes a difference

took me 100+ games with no blood pact to figure out i had been rused
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>>163917035

I want to rape this elf.
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>>163917298
>implying the devs in charge of Havencraft think before they make a card
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>have almost 9k vials
>have 4950 rupies
>now I'm hearing we're getting 10 packs and 1100 rupies as well
I am literally set this expansion. I can build any deck I want along with the extra vials I'll be getting.
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>>163918850
same with Avant blader
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>>163918850
I bet you run avant blader too.
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>>163918527

>looking at steam for jap game statistics

Yeah lets look at steam for Battlefield stats too
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>>163918903
have no vials but im hoping elana, aria and garuda gets nerfed so i can comfortably dust all of my haven cards
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>>163918857
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Anyone got a link to the SV stream featuring Kajita and Sugita?
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>>163918364
Well, jp streams get up to 300k viewers, I think. with smaller ones getting 50k.
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>>163918903
Same here famalam, have only been spending rupies on t2 for doing some dailies and am loaded and ready.
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>>163918114

I fucking love this smug duck

I will play it for shit and giggles, just like I play my bae Bellringer
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>>163918792
Might be decent in Ramp Dragon since you don't have to worry about followers dying. Although I would rather just use Salamander's Breath. I think he's a good card but I just can't think of decks you would want to use him in right now.
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>>163918362
>>163918502
>>163918504
Not him but the good thing about blader is it drops a follower you can actually use and it also acts as a commander if you don't draw maid or banner.
The problem with conscription is it's only good when you have a banner out. If you don't draw maid or banner at all then your conscription is really shitty.
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>>163918850
Yeah /svg/ will say shit to purposely cripple you by saying shit like not ever trading into Elana or that Storm is a tier 1 deck.
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Why are precious qts wasted on bad cards? It's not fair.
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>>163919015
https://freshlive.tv/shadowverse/70326
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>>163919015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxo3qa6Mbms
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>>163918991

You are not helping your situation.
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>>163918903
Didn't saved anything and not getting much vials
Such is life for someone new
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SINNERS
BE
PURGED!
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>Go first
>mfw
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Who's ready to buy the forest deck when it comes out and just be cancer in ranked?
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>>163918773
It's basically a 1 turn countdown that triggers at the end of your next turn but it can be removed with damage spells or follower removal since it's a follower not an amulet.
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>>163919045
Lucius shouldn't be evaluated under "what would I run him in" but "what would I run him against".
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>>163919051
storm is a tier 1 deck

but I guess down in B3 they don't even Urd their baldies for double banish

and the reason you want to avoid trading against Elana as much as possible is because if you stop pressuring him he'll drop Seraph and win the next turn
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>>163919050
>also acts as a commander if you don't draw maid or banner.
This is the problem retard, it stops you drawing banner because maid will draw avast instead.

With 3 maid and 3 banner you have a very good chance of drawing it by turn 4-5. If you don't you've lost anyway, and hoping that an extra 3 Avasts will save you is retarded.
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>>163918662
I do
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>>163919081
>>163919095
Thanks
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>>163919078
>not using her for memes
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>>163919078
It's good in an Atomeme deck.

https://youtu.be/pxhYs_SFdMs?t=105
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>>163919051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipg4EL_JUyE
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>tfw Vampy will never ride you at 300kmh
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How do I get fucking non-trash cards

Is there no way to just buy vials?

Can I cheat engine or something yet?
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>>163919160
Can you not read english you moron? I said it acts as a commander WHEN YOU DON'T DRAW MAID OR BANNER. Learn english before you try to make an argument.
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>>163919051
/svg/ says alot of dumb shit but Storm Haven actually is a strong deck. The dumb shit people say about Storm Haven is that it's a linear and/or autopilot deck when a quarter of any Garuda deck is pure tech and that it actually gives a shit about matchups during the mulligan phase.
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>>163919136
No, I was wondering why it has that additional effect of evolving at the start of your turn but it still had the same stats. Then I figured it was probably to restore any damage done on it.
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Does it look like the shadow card that summons a bunch of last word followers and destroys them will make a good deck, or is it just gonna be a meme?
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>>163919050
how can you not understand the cheesiest fucking deck in the game?
kys
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>>163919246
You're the one who can't read, I explicitly stated that the loss from reducing the chance of drawing banner is worse than the gain from having a "spare banner"
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>>163919297
meme probably.
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>>163919262
>turn 3 no minions to play
lose to aggro bat, and banner.
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>>163919297
It will be good when you learn how to read cards and learn what they actually do.
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>In AA2
>Get daily to do a bunch of Dragon games
>Use my top tier Face dragon deck
>Drop to AA1

Can't wait for RoB so I never have to play Face Dragon again.
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>>163919018

300k?

what the actual?

I only see a couple of thousands here and there.
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>>163919231
Play the game and acquire free stuff? The devs give players so much shit there is no way you don't have enough to make a deck if you have played any amount of time.
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Is there any reason to not liquify all extras?
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>>163919264
its effect only start after evolving. It's a vanilla 0/5 the turn you drop it
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>>163919297
tier 3 meme deck, if you wanna play a deck that fucking slow you better off just playing standard control
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>>163919051
>b3 thinks he gets to talk about balance
lmao
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>>163918548
I hoard them until I actually need them.
Then I either press the button or go vialing whatever Golds I'll never fucking use. Silvers and Bronzes are not worth the effort.
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will i go far with this, /svg/?
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When will they increase the board size to 6? There's enough ui space for it
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>>163919297
>crippling your deck so you can have a sick turn 8 play
I'm no deck wizard but I just don't see it happening
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>>163919417
They might get nerfed in a year :^).
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>>163919431
>Buffing Elf and sword.
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>>163919417
No, never. Autists will tell you that occasionally some cards are rebalanced so you might be able to get more vials later but that's incredibly rare.
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>>163919417
Hoping for nerfs then liquify for full vials.
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Can I fucking use Cheat Engine on this game or what? I'm not spending 500000 years to get enough vials to build a meta deck from scratch.
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>>163919342
>Add Temple Defender
>Bats autolose unless they have a Razory Claw
>What are Sister Initiate, Prisim Priestess, Dogma+Aria, etc
Banner is a horrible matchup though, yes, but weak aggro match ups don't make Storm Haven bad when hard aggro isn't prime meta in the first place.
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>>163919430
Play D-shift.
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>>163919470
Buffing Shadow?
Now Cerb+PH does 12 damage.
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>>163919520
Kill yourself
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>>163919532
>not always keeping razory claw in your hand just in case of temple defender
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>>163919534

In arena. Thanks, mate.
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>>163919520
What do you think, retard?
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posting high level memes
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>they will never have chat functions cause they know Japanese players will leave the match if you start talking shit, even if they're winning

Give me my autowin feature against aspie japs dammit. I hate losing to them cause I deadhanded and they drop 4 rainbow cards they wasted months and paychecks to get
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>>163919520
Just play hearthstone anon, 1 year and you can make a meta deck
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>>163918903
>Overshot my hoarding goal by 2k
>Decide to start buying packs if I go over 5.1k
>Unpack a ton of golds, 3 Soul Dealers and my first Alwidas
Feels good man, feels good.
What's this whole deal about 1.1k gold though?
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>>163919430
>playing rune in t2
if you collect your pack now you can save some time, otherwise enjoy your 0-5
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>>163919313
You're fucking stupid. I'm not talking about the loss of reducing the chance to draw banner from maid I'm talking about NOT DRAWING BANNER OR THE MAID AT ALL.
Try reading it again real slowly so your stupid brain can comprehend it.
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>>163919520

>meta deck
>50000 years

I've built my 5th meta deck for shit and giggles two days ago from shit I had laying around and vials I got over course of 2 weeks
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>>163919520
Actually if you use the bluestacks version you can cheat engine unlimited vials

I also have drophack setup on mine for a 100% winrate
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>>163919421
>won't even giving me a little credit with the 16 win streak
I'm not saying I'm good at this game but I do know a lot of the people say on her is bullshit. /svg tried to convinced me that blood pact was shit in aggro bats but that coudn't be any further then the truth. I've played enough bats to at least figure out that card draw is important in aggro and I doubt that concept will change in the higher ranks.
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>>163919594
ptp sword?
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>>163919614

I went 4-1 with this, mr. expert
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>>163919619
And for the trillionth time, I said that the odds of not drawing banner or maid while still drawing avast is low and not worth the tradeoff for the reduced chance of drawing banner.
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>>163919659
>there's some degenerate gaylord who will find this attractive
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Why are we getting rupies?
Post proofs
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>>163919619
but that hurts your chances all together anon. stop being so aggressive at the other anon. Avant blader isn't optimal for Banner and this is fact. You're better off not using it.
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>>163919594
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>>163919619
>Wasting 5 pp on a do nothing in banner
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>no chat function for free wins against japs

shit game desu
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>>163919376
Bigger nicostreams.
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>>163919545
Good, fuck shadow too.
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>>163919594
>>163919719
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>>163919737
how would a chat function give you free wins against japs?
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>>163919719
You executed the midnight haunt right?
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>>163919598
Managed to get 3 legos in only 10 packs. Feels fucking great man.
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>>163919817

trash talk them into conceading
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so we get 10 free packs and 1100 gold for free ? wtf i love cygames now
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>>163919859
>1100 gold
What?
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>>163919859
what
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>>163919895
Yes
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>>163919859
Why?
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>>163919895
https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=156
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>>163919895
https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=156
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>>163919698
>>163919715
>With 3 maid and 3 banner you have a very good chance of drawing it by turn 4-5. If you don't you've lost anyway, and hoping that an extra 3 Avasts will save you is retarded.
>If you don't you've lost anyway, and hoping that an extra 3 Avasts will save you is retarded.
You lost because you didn't have avant when you didn't draw maid or banner.
Avant is exactly what lets you continue where you would have lost if you didn't draw maid or banner.
>implying you never had 6 cards sit in the bottom half of your deck before
Avant gives you steam and a commander on board to continue the fight instead of just conceding cause you didn't draw banner or maid or had to use 1 draw shitty conscription.
Also no one uses 3 avant, that's too much, 2 is just nice.

>>163919728
>do nothing
>it drops a follower you can evolve while drawing 2 cards
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>>163919917
New Year and Christmas gift
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>>163919918
>>163919929
>>163919916
Holy fuck.
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>>163919835
Yes, reminding them that midnight hag is for fake memes.

>>163919795
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>>163919918
>>163919929
would rather them just give 5 standard 4 de at once desu
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>>163919817
Japs are known to leave very early if there's any form of shittalk or bullying in any game.

Its a common thing but you can actually bully wins out of them in just about any online game.
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>>163919934
>using avant blader
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>>163919849
They can't understand you, dumb Amerifat
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>>163919934
You're objectively wrong. I even tried Avast for ~100 games of banner, and was thoroughly certain by the end of it that conscription was better. You can't wait 'til turn 5 and not have a banner/maid and still win, and even if you could then playing a 5pp card that doesn't do fucking shit that turn loses you the game anyway.

Banner is all in on banner, which is why you include the maids in the first place. If you don't draw it, you probably lose. If you go second, you have 12 chances to draw a maid or banner before turn 5, and more if you have mentor's teachings. As many cards as possible should be storm, and conscription lets them attack that turn, unlike avast due to its high pp cost.
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>>163919918
>>163919929
So should I spend it all on packs or packs and THE DORK DRAGOON!?
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>>163919696

no you didnt
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>>163920007
I'd rather they just give you nothing and delete your account
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>>163920020
>implying it wont hurt even more when i insult them with my shit japanese
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>>163920007
why would you rather have them give you less choice? you're the typr of faggot who perfers gift cards over money for presents? top kek
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>>163920020
Of course they understand basic english you inbred anime loving moron
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>>163919934
>>163920038
>Avast
Fucking bannerbrains
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>yfw there is no function to buy 5x packs or more at once.
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>>163919934
>Wasting evos on Avant
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>>163920098
>tfw finally got enough vials for a real deck having played nothing but banner for all 4 weeks of this game
>then no one tells me if my new deck is any good

I've learnt that banner is the only way to get any replies in this thread
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Who /didn'tmakeit/ here?
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>>163920094
>avarage jap
>understanding english
uh-huh
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>>163920072

not to mention i lost my final one thanks to incredible bad luck

>inb4 goalposts moving and claiming it's fake
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>>163920079
>>163920094
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>>163920140
You can buy 10 at once dingaling
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>>163920184
Yes but I can't buy 50 packs at once.
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>>163920094
>Everyone in the world knows English
Dumb Amerifat
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>>163919817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph543eDStaQ

Japs will leave games they're winning you start talking shit to them
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>>163920179

nice photoshop
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>>163919934
Look I'm an Avant apologist, but even I know that Avant in banner is a bad idea.
In midrange dropping avant on 5 is a bad idea, as you're just not dropping enough meat, the only reason I'd consider dropping her on curve is when there's a 5/5 on board so that I don't lose Floral

She's good for sifting through your deck, but in banner you don't need that. You want every card you draw to be damage, not setup for damage. Having only banners in your deck and that 100% consistency is fucking key.
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>>163920176
end your life weeaboo
life does not imitate your animated cartoons

>>163920216
basic english yes they will understand when theyre insulted
and im not american you buffoon
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Any chance the new last words Shadowcraft deck will be good? I'm worried it's going to be too slow.
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>>163920020
>>163920176

They don't need to understand what you're saying as long as you can get the aggressiveness or bullying across.

They'll usually leave almost immediately.
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>>163920227

Adorable. Just face it you suck at this game, dude and do not try to give other people 'advices' in the future. Makes you sound stupid.
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>>163920176
>japan
>not having english classes
okay dokie
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I'm using avant blader in my control deck
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>tfw can't wait for aggro rune

Can't wait for my turn 4 Levi evolve into Turn 5 Ogler Evolve Piercing Rune Crimson Sorcery
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>>163920295

nice ad hominem, but that doesnt mean you win more
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>>163920038
>you're objectively wrong
>because I say so
That's not how arguments work anon.

>You can't wait 'til turn 5 and not have a banner/maid and still win, and even if you could then playing a 5pp card that doesn't do fucking shit that turn loses you the game anyway.
That's why I said with avant you can continue the game. Sure you won't get the bonus atk buff from banner but your followers still get their effects from having a commander on board and that's what's more important to continuing the game with no maid or banner draws.

>If you don't draw it, you probably lose
Again, avant gives you a chance to continue instead of an instant loss. What part of this can you not understand? You can win games beyond turn 5 while never having drawn banner or maid BECAUSE of avant.

>conscription lets them attack that turn, unlike avast due to its high pp cost.
>1 conscription draw
>you end up drawing nothing with storm
>avant
>you can evolve it and it places a body on the board
>if you played it really late with more pp you can take advantage followers with storm that requires a commander on board

Also
>avast
kek
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>>163920326
>Turn 5 levi and piercing kills tiger, bird and deals 5 damage
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>>163920323
I'm using avant blader in my midrange deck because I only have 1 aurelia and otohime each ;_;
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>>163920323
This is the only correct answer
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>>163920363

Dude, just stop. I posted my deck to lure out 'experts' like you, you fell into it hook, line and sinker and now we are here. Stop defending your honor on anonyous image board and just accept this with humility and learn from it that you don't know NEARLY as much shit as you think you do. Also, have another photoshop
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>>163920419
>avant blader

lol
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>>163920369
>1 conscription draw
>you end up drawing nothing with storm

>having non-storm officers in your deck

Sounds like your banner deck has multiple construction problems.
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>>163919671
>16 win streak with bats in b3
you sure showed us

really though card draw is important, its just bats has so much low cost shit that generally you get a playable curve, so you dont need to put any blood pacts in at all

like I dont run it and I do fine, it is in no way necessary to bats at all
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>play one arena run before maintenance and patch
>end up 3-2 but be very salty because the two loses
>one was again a player that drafted 2 DAO
>on the other I didn't get any 2 drop until turn 3 going first
At least I pulled a 4th Cerberus to dust. But now the gambler's fallacy is kicking in and making me worry about my pulls for the expansion.
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Are we getting new leaders in this expansion?
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>>163920467
>maid leader
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>wake up too early
>rob not out
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Why is Forest allowed to have the best cards in the game and answers to literally everything
>j-just face race them anon
Will of the Forest rewards them for hoarding cards and clears your board
>just clear their board
doesn't even amtter because they'll have so many 1 and 0 cost fairies that they can just send out fat soccermoms and tias for little cost
>just play aggressive
Rhino combo kills you at turn 5
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>>163920369
>But your followers still get their effects from having a commander on board
Cant wait to turn 7 avant blader + centaur vanguard amirite
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So, about that last stream:
>Shadow miscalculated lethal
>Haven with total shit draws
>Fafnir outmemed by forest silver.
>Sugita conceding when he still have a good chance of winning with Goblinmount.
It's fucking rigged, isn't it?
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>>163919297
It's fucking garbage and Shadow will continue to be bottom-tier in RoB
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>>163920543
No, dead game.
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>>163920467
>implying your conscription will let you use centaur or ruthless assassin's storm without a commander on board while avant allows you to do this
Are you stupid or are you stupid? There's only quickblader and novice trooper that have storm without any requirements, and that's only 6 cards out of 40. Do you even play banner?
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I've been using Avant while laddering in AA, bitch all you want, I'll keep winning with it.
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>Have cousin who's burnt out on HS
>1.1k gold new years' gift means it's a great time to pick up SV
Should I try to convince him? He doesn't watch much anime apart from DragonBall, so I don't think he'll like the artstyle that much, nor will he go through the trouble of undubbing it.
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Did they add anything that buffs DShift or did they just push aggro rune in RoB?
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>>163919993

what card did he even play I've never seen it
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>>163919614
i guess youre just shit at t2
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>>163920554
>the opponent will always have the perfect answers for all my plays
>and I'm not a shitter I swear
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>that feel when this game is going to become just as shit as Hearthstone
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>>163920553
You woke up just in time for the daily Avant 500+ post discussion
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>>163920613
ungabunga
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>haven't opened a pack in a week
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Remenber to buy the expac when come out maybe they shit out everything and refund all the money
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>>163920467
Also avant lets you pull maid leader as well if you never even drew a single maid or banner in the first place.
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>>163920650
Forest has so many answers to everything that they're guarnteed to have an answer for whatever you've done
>f-forest isn't broken I swear
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>>163920610
Yeah and if you don't get banner you've lost. There are exactly 3 officer cards you should have that don't have storm and 4 cards with storm so odds are pretty good of at least 1 storm follower.
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>>163920643
Fuck off normie
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Is Bahamut actually going to see play in control decks?
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>>163920586
Can't let the boys beat the girls
Can't let dragon win
b-but Bahamut is a dragon!
I can still h-hear everyone laughing at Sugita when he said that
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>>163920716
It might see play in Ramp Dragon or some Haven deck.

It's an infinitely better Fafnir if anything
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>>163920643
Tell him there're still more western style artworks than boobs and asses. Or just tell him to play Storm Haven since it's practically animal kingdom the deck.
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>>163920716
I'm pretty positive it will see play in Ramp dragon at least.
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>>163920590
tfw got memed by svg into thinking midrange shadow was viable
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>>163920645
Piercing rune is a buff to rune decks including Dshift but Aggro/tempo rune gonna be more powerful than Dshift imo.
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>>163920716
Dies to DoD.
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>>163920662
It's fine in control but too slow for mid-range and might fuck up draws for banner. I thought everyone knew this already.
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>>163920643
try it anon even non-weebs find SV hot. In the Savjz stream he said "Isabelle is pretty hot yeah!"
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>>163920643
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>>163920716
It replaces Satan in Haven.
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>>163920772
>be weeb
>think Isabelle looks shit
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>>163920662
It is tradition.
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>>163920772
People start playing for Isabelle
Then Luna lures them in with her seductress semen demon powers
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>>163919614
Why is runecraft considered bad in arena? Whenever I go 4-1 it's always because of some master player playing a meme earth rite t2 deck.
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>>163920716
Fafnir and Satan become free vials
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>>163920693
>Yeah and if you don't get banner you've lost
You are the dumbest motherfucker ever. That's why IF YOU HAVE AVANT IT DOESN'T BECOME AN INSTANT LOSS. YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE THE FIGHT.
How can you not comprehend this? Are you a fucking spic?

>There are exactly 3 officer cards you should have that don't have storm and 4 cards with storm
>implying you can use centuar and ruthless assassin's storm without a commander on board
You're a fucking moron, just kys.
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>>163920772
>tfw you realize he's actually VoHiYo incarnate, but he's been hiding his inner weeb for so long
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>>163920684
>avant lets you pull maid leader as well
confirmed retard
maid leader is officer
its only in Bannershit because you can draw a banner with her if you out of luck and didn't draw it earlier. Banner is commander. It should be the only commander in deck for maid to work.
Do you understand now or i need to repeat?
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>>163920613
I have removed Avant from my Banner deck and from ever since that the deck works better
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Where do I sign up to be dominated by Beast Dominator?
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>>163920268
Have you actually met avarage japs? I had to deal with a decently sized group of mostly 20-something students, two teachers and a previous principal of a school. The only ones capable of saying more than 'Ok' or single words in english were one of the teachers (who taught english) and one student that was specifically studying in foreign relations and languages.
They really dont do much english
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>>163920772

She's hot yeah, I like tiddie monsters a lot, but her personality right now is utter shit, literally Litchi from Blazblue
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>>163920865
Beast Dominator doujin this comiket soon
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>>163920853
That's the whole point you fucking moron. Avant can pull maid leader which can let you pull a banner. Holy shit how fucking stupid are you.
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>>163920846
Playing Avant on curve is a huge tempo loss and she's understatted, she's easily dealt with as a body and if you don't have banner on the field then pulling a centaur isn't as strong a play.

If you need officer draw that badly just run fucking Conscription, it doesn't brick your hand and is only 2PP
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>>163920853
You ain't convincing anyone, ESL-kun.
>>163920858
Tubular.
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>>163920920
>playing a banner on turn 6

jesus
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>>163920846
>That's why IF YOU HAVE AVANT IT DOESN'T BECOME AN INSTANT LOSS. YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE THE FIGHT.
Bannermeme has no late or even mid game, even if you pull out your shitty officers who hit like wet noodles without banners, you will still get fucked in the ass by better decks with actual late game powerhouse like Haven or Forest or even Midrange sword. Bannermeme is basically go fast or go home.
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>Browse /svg/ while playing
>Miss lethal
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>>163920865
what is a daeki? also, sauce please?
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>>163920956
>always playing banner on 4 no matter what
enjoy losing
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>>163920956
And with no board
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>>163920826
It's not, it's just harder to draft a consistent deck than sword or shadow
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>>163920929
She's understatted because she's a follower with card draw. If you play her on curve you can still evolve her and her 3/4 body is still bigger than any other follower in a banner deck. She lets you kill shit you couldnt kill because you didn't draw a maid or banner AND she lets centuar and ruthless assassin use their storm ability.
Conscription CANNOT do this.
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New leaders when
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>>163921013
>play avant
>get maid
>play maid
>Get another avant

top kek
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>>163920872
understanding is not the same as speaking
whilest they might fail to string along a coherent sentence im absolutely certain theyd understand what you said as long as you kept it simple
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>>163920920
you do realize that banner is a facedeck, right?
I can suggest you to replace avant with fencer and see how it works if you want to " to continuing the game" without banner or maid.
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>>163921006
I don't know the sauce, probably from a sample for her doujin in the next comiket.
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>/svg/ actually doesn't know how to play fucking banner
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With Castle in the Sky, is it a permanent effect once it's last words trigger?
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>>163921107
yea but you already died
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Ya'll faggots discussing about Avant withou being able to get past AA and I'm here just chilling while reading this
>https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=156
Based Cygames.
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>>163921032
Blader will almost certainly get removed next turn because her evolve statline is 4/5, whats more is that you never want Maid to draw her unless you've already got a banner on the field, she bricks your opening draws and she bricks your meido pulls. You're always worse off when meido pullls Avant instead of Banner which happens a lot.

Conscription gives you card draw without bricking your pulls, and it's only 2 mana so you can actually play one or two of the officers you just drew on the same turn.

I can't tell you how many games I've lost because my maid pulled Avant instead of Banner when I needed it.
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>>163920974
>Bannermeme has no late or even mid game
>he has never won banner past turn 6
That's why you lose. Avant still gives you a chance to continue if you chipped enough hp but never drew a single maid or banner once. Apparently you're too stupid to comprehend this fact. But go on, keep conceding if you fail to win by turn 6. People with avant can still finish a close game past turn 6.
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>>163921090
We can barely read fucking cards sometimes.
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>>163920449

>hook line and sinker

yep
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>>163921141
Blader is a 5/6 evolved
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>>163921140


> cygames is literally giving free rupes
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>tfw you don't give a fuck about math and accidentally get lethal
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Hotdamn, Banner really is easy mode.
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>>163921152
show your deck
you probably have some kind of hybrid, if you think that banner has mid/late game
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>>163921205
>math
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>>163921152
So does Conscription and it lets you play officers the same turn unlike Avant who is your whole turn. Those two Centaurs you drew on turn 5 sure aren't going to help when you can't play them because Avant is 5PP, and then Avant gets removed so those Centuars are now useless unlike if there was a banner on the field.
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>>163920449
>this loser using photoshop to show to noobs a way to get 0-0
>>
Where are the fuck are my (You)s?!
MOOOOOOOT
>>
>open lots of pack
>fucking nothing
>open lots of pack
>shit legendary
Ad infinitum.

>>163920679
You will get 10 packs of RoB tomorrow.

>tfw I won't get anything or will only get shit gold/legend
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>>163921107
If you're wondering if it gives +1/+1 and Storm to future followers after the amulet pops, no. But the buffs on followers in play when it pops is permanent.
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>>163921152
If you want mid game play midrange sword instead of bannur jesus christ
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How much gold are you guys planning to spend on RoB?
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>>163921258
I took them away
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>>163921258

>not using an extension

You deserve none newfag
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>>163921271
>>tfw I won't get anything or will only get shit gold/legend
delet ethis
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>>163921372
after all the dailies and gold over the next 4 days, probably about 3k.
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>tfw fell for "save rupies for expan bro" meme

FUCK YOU GUYS I COULD GET INTO MASTER NOW IF I OPEN PACKS BEFORE REEEEEE
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>>163921372
will have ~1700 by tomorrows dailies
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>>163921036
I want a Djeeta with a huge fucking rack that bounces more than Fortes as a all-class leader
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>wake up
>realize today is the big day
holy shitttttttttttt
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>>163921387
>>163921437
Go back to /hsg/
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>>163921225
Banner's mid and late game are topdecking stormshit and shooting it into someone's face.
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>>163921087
You're playing banner sword when Dire bond, Bloody mary and beast dominator walks into your room

What do you do?
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>will of the fuckers
>will of the fuckers

Balanced game.
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>discard dragon will be the strongest deck in less than 12 hours

I'm glad to be alive.
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How long till the release of the new expansion?
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I4M SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS PIECE OF SHIT FLORAL FENCER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Avant Blader?
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>>163921437
>didn't fall for the save ur gold meme, only got three lego's in over 50 packs
>fell for the glory be and christmas pack meme several times, not even a gold
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>>163921592
1 hour and 10 minutes till maintenance starts
then 12 hours after that it ends
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>>163921525
Play my 3 Centaurs and thrust right into them.
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BOW BEFORE DARK DRAGOON, RULER OF THE SKIES
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>>163921630
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>>163921141
Her evolved statline is 5/6. And we're not talking about the maid drawing her. We're talking about when you don't even draw a maid or banner in the first place.

Even if you draw a maid and the maid draws avant, it isn't an instant loss because it still acts as a commander for centuar and ruthless while having her own body instead of royal giving every follower +1.
Sometimes even having avant is better if your board only has 1-2 followers since it's a bigger body than any other follower in the deck.

And I've won games with avant without drawing any maids or banners AND games where my maid drew avant instead of banner, so you can't really use that as an objective argument.

>>163921225
Go look up any meta or tourney banner deck, they all use avant. It's a proven card in the meta.

>>163921232
If you played avant on curve you can evolve it for 5/6 and that's a big enough body to trade with.
On the other hand, your conscription drawing two centuars is useless as well so your comparison is retarded. At least with avant you have a 3/4 base instead of a useless 2/1 centuar with no storm.

>>163921356
No one is talking about midrange. We're talking about banner being able to finish the game even if they don't draw a single maid or royal.
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>>163921647
>12 hours
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Is there any better feeling than taking down big foes by bouncing a Elf Child May back and forth
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>>163921751
>>163921647
I think it's 10 hours, not 12.

https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0045
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>2 banner on board
>2 maid leaders in hand

Boy I can't wait to draw my 3rd banner and nothing at all with these. At least I didn't include avant blader in my deck! phew
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>>163921761
roach combos
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>>163921736
>On the other hand, your conscription drawing two centuars is useless as well so your comparison is retarded. At least with avant you have a 3/4 base instead of a useless 2/1 centuar with no storm.
>your conscription drawing two centuars
>a useless 2/1 centuar with no storm.
Go read Conscription, bro.
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>>163921437
>>163921640
>fell for the christmas pack meme
>multiple 2 legendary packs and 3+ gold packs
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>>163921761
>>163921803
kill yourselves
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As someone who doesn't play banner and is at AA3, Avant Blader just seems just better.

Her stats are just enough to make her annoying. Feels like every time I lose, it's because of Avant.
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>>163921578
j-just outplay it forest isn't broken I bet you're a sword player
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>>163921736
>If you played avant on curve you can evolve it for 5/6 and that's a big enough body to trade with
>Trade with avant
>Gets killed next turn
Good job
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>>163921437
I saved 4k and got to masters
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>>163921790
>Expecting the maintenance to be done in 10 hours
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>>163921867
>Feels like every time I lose, it's because of Avant.
Haha same, except I'm the one playing Banner.
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Avant should be 4/5.
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>>163921649
This
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>>163921882
I can count on one hand the times I lost on turn 5 and on the other the times I won on turn 5. Early finish is a big meme that requires perfect aggro mulligan and draws.
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>tfw opened forty (40) Darkness Evolved cardpacks and still no Dark Angel Olivia

why does my waifu evade me?
>>
Avant should have Storm.
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>>163921793
It's easier to get a 3 banner centaur hayai 11 damage combo than bricking that hard
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>>163922002
>tfw i rerolled away Olivia for more Forest cards and i didn't played Forest since C3
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>>163922002
>tfw opened an animated one some time ago

you're getting cucked mate
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>>163922002
>tfw 2 animated olivias
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>>163921853
>open 1 pack a day minimum
>never gotten a multi gold or lego pack before, ever
delete this post right nwo
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>>163919619
> I'm talking about NOT DRAWING BANNER OR THE MAID AT ALL
floral fencer
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>>163922002
>Got 2 animated Olivias
Your waifu is mine
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YOUR BLOOD WILL PAINT MY SPEAR RED
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Guys
I think I have a problem
I can't stop putting wight kings in my decks
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Come on, hag. Liberate this board. I dare you.
>>
Meta predictions after the expansion? I think control sword and ramp dragon will be tier 1 because midrange is a lot weaker since otohime is no longer a strong win condition because everyone has AoE now. Ramp became much more consistent with an additional ramp card which is huge

Tier 1
>Tempo/PtP forest
>Ramp dragon
>Control sword
>Elana haven

Tier 2
>Dshift rune
>Aggro blood
>Discard dragon
>Last word shadow
>Storm haven

Tier 3
>Silver bolt forest
>Aggro rune
>Control blood
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Reminder that our lord and savior Failgun doesn't run avant blader :^)
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>>163922316
reminder that our japanese meme overlord runs leonidas control sword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeHDQ_AOelM
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>>163922316
Reminder that only Reddit fedoramasters run Avant Blader in their bannermeme deck
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>>163922268
>Acolyte
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>>163922283
i could see that
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>>163922191
sometimes i wish was a faggot doll buyer because that statue is beautiful
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>>163922283
What is it ramp dragon gets that will make it tier 1?

I can seen discard dragon being slightly better.
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>>163922384
LEO-NII! I love the guy.
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>>163921829
It was a fruedian slip, I meant drawing 1. I was thinking of your example of drawing two centuars from avant.

>>163921882
>aggro means you don't make trades ever
>in the most important tempo turns 4-6
Nice meme.
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>>163922384
>>163922460
he's streaming right now
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>>163922443
Bahamut.
>>
Maintenance starts in 45 minutes.
>>
1 more hour until maintenance. Get to completing your dailies or you will be waiting another 13 hours to do it.
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>>163922443
roost 6p only for you
>>
Who thought that Will of the Fuckers was a balanced card
Who thought that Fairy Beast was a fair card
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>>163922536
FUCK
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>busy bm emoting while going for seraph win
>drag the wrong card
>out of pp
>die to lethal next turn
not even mad, it was funny
>>
>>163922560

>complaining about the skill-intensive pet class

Just play around it lol :^)
>>
>Sahaquiel
>Optimally a 7PP follower with a 4/4 body that has fanfare: destroy an enemy follower
>Requires you to pollute your deck with multiple big neutral followers to be of any use
Am I missing something or is this legendary complete shit?
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>>163922283
t1
tempo/ptp forest
midsword
dshift
tempo rune
elana seraph
storm haven

t2
bats
mid/control blood
control sword
shadow
face/ramp dragon

t3+
rest
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>>163922384
>double evolving the same floral fencer via urd
Based.
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and proud of it
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>>163922610
>>busy bm emoting while going for seraph win
you deserve the loss, autistic piece of shit
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>>163922629
GIRUGAMESH
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>>163922653
Congrats.
>>
>tfw your dailies starts with maintenance
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>>163922536
What! My dailies start in an hour and a half
CYGAAAAAMES
>>
>>163922384
>Latham
>>
>>163922384
wtf i love this guy now
>>
>>163922630
god please no. if this expansion doesn't shake up the meta it will be a failure on all levels
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>>163922710

Most unlucky for you, buddy. Guess you gotta wait until it's over.
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>>163922691
>3 valkyries on board
>8/4 storm on turn 7
meh, only thing that I could think of.
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>>163922283
That 5 PP ramp card is pretty garbage and it looks like it'll still have trouble against aggro. DS will still be T1 even with all the added aggro since it's pretty fast along with countering PtP. Midrange Royal will probably still be T1 even with all the added AoE. It's early followers are too good and Aurelia is a stop block against a lot of aggro decks. I think Tempo Witch will at least be T2 though. It'll be an aggro deck that can refresh it's hand with Dorothy, along with putting out multiple strong followers early. It'll also have decent removal and might have synergy with Conjuring Force.
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>>163922283
Tier 1
>Tempo Forest
>Elana/Seraph Haven
>Face or storm Dragon
>Mid-range Sword :^)
>Storm Haven
Tier 2
>Mid-range Shadow
>Nep memes
>Control Blood
>Dshift
>Control Sword
Tier 3
>Dirt Rune
>Mid-range/aggro Rune
>Silver bolt memes
>PtP Forest
>some sort of control Shadow

Granted I'm expecting a lot of Nep but I think she might legitimately be GOOD if somehow shadow can survive for a turn after using her effect, the quality of general followers alone could and should keep her decks into somewhere relevant.
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>>163922684
I do it every win
:^)))
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>play ptp forest mirror
>win because of my superior intellect
>use the top emote to try and say "well played" to my opponent but Arisa just says the passive-agressive SUGOI NE (WHOA! for the dubcucks)
Fuck you Arisa, be nice
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Is there any reason Elana Seraph won't be T1 again?
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Seraph will never be tier one.
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Luna will have a t1 deck this expansion, right guys?
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>>163922653

>still in B

nice
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>>163922629
Can work with Lucifer because you'll get the heal before he goes back to your hand.
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>>163922920
Go back to bed for 3 more months, Luna.
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>>163921630
>turn 4 HYAKKA RYOURAN DE NE
>turn 5 SERAFUHHH FEZAHHHH SHIN NO CHIKARA WO SHIMESE
>turn 6 OTOMEME-SAMA OMAMORISHIMASU :DDDD
>turn 7 WATASHI NO SAKU WO SHINJIRU NO DA
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>>163922920
I'm so sorry Luna.
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>>163922907
Nerfs
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>>163922283
mostly this except
>all shadow decks t3 except nep which will be discard tier
>control blood t1
>ptp blood t2
>bats t3
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>>163922920
I've got your T1 deck right here
*unzips dick*
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>>163922939
But what's she going to do in her bed for such a long period of time?
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>>163922283
>>163922785
>control nep shadow tier 2
Damn I wish. It really is too bad D-shift and PtP exist :^(

>>163922921
About to hit A1 actually, nice try though
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>>163922950
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>>163922974
do we know any?
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>>163922937
You sure about that?
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>>163923007

You shitters are always in A, as if that was an accomplishment
>>
Why are damage estimates being disabled?
>>
>>163922920
Shadow has never stopped being tier 1.
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>>163923064
Both things happen at the end of your turn. It would make sense for both things to happen. I guess we'll see for sure in some 12 hours though.
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>>163923085
Not really, just went off a 15 game winstreak so still climbing pretty quickly. Not much of an accomplishment until you hit master it seems like, just thought I would correct you :^)
>>
How do i spot dirtrune from autolosing to dshift
>>
>>163923098
wtf are damage estimates?
>>
>>163923253
The number that shows up when you command an attack/about to deal damage, the skull when something is predicted to die, the exclamation mark whenever you use May
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did free rupies announcement get posted yet? well i'm posting it again

>1100 rupies across 4 days
all you crybabies satisfied?
>>
>>163923236
you dont
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>>163923236
They play minions that aren't the golem or levi.
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>>163920554

>rhino death combo turn 4

ugh...
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>>163922283
>thinking control will rule over the meta after a new expansion

are we /hsg/ now?
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>>163923310
Not one of the cry babies and honestly didn't expect anything close to this so very satisfied. Cygames is much more generous than Blizzard ever was and I'm glad as fuck I found this game.
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25778

need a quick concede
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Top 4 ranked wins by class:

Forest: 1624, 1385, 1220, 1216
Sword: 996, 934, 914, 889
Rune: 1318, 1218, 1178, 1115
Dragon: 1516, 1309, 1160, 1130
Shadow: 849, 754, 736, 699
Blood: 1372, 1319, 874, 850
Haven: 1409, 1006, 979, 902

There are a few outliers, but some of these are fairly consistent. This should tell you a lot about the actual tier list. Don't just read """""reported"""" win rates. After all, who would actually be able to compete in wins with the very best if they played a deck with terrible win rates. Even if they played non-stop, they would still be behind.
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>>163923432

thanks bruv
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>net loss of 2k rank points over last few days
>feels bad
>face meme decks all morning today
>already got 1k back
I wish this happened all the time
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>>163923383
At least RoB aren't getting 1-drops that are as strong as 2-drops, which also has synergy with a free charge minion.
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>>163923551
Yeah my opponents seem to change massively based on time of day.
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>>163923551
What rank?
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>>163923495
I don't think that's how it works senpai
Also, shadow is the only one far under 1k, feels shadow man.wav
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pls god let them have a special sale for prebuilt

i dont want to spend $10 on that shit
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has there been any word on new emblems with the rob packs?
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>Elana player misses lethal 3 times
>still can't catch up

pls nerf
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Not sure I'm gonna make it bros.
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>>163923625
According to that list, Sword is also sub-1k.
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>>163923692

he's doing it on purpose to BM you, retard
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>>163923624
dropped from AA1 to AA0 now
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>>163922629
>Bahamut turn 8
>Blood's Laura that gives storm
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>>163923682
Same deal as DE emblems
Pack the lego, get the emblem.
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>>163923753
he was 3 away from dying tho
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Tried modifying the usual aggro shadow deck to use the new Shadow Reaper. What do the shadowbros think?
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>>163923806
Couldn't topdeck that Centaur or Trooper in time?
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>>163923790
did they say that or are you just assuming?
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>>163923847
Patch notes mentioned new emblems.
Take that as you may.
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>>163923746
"the only one far under"
the sword guy will definitely get his other 4 wins very soon while the shadow guys might not hit 1k at all this season
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Alright guys, name one deck that you deem your best and state your strategy against each of those decks
>PTP Elf
>Banner Sword
>DShift
>Wall Rune ft. Pascal
>Aggro Bat
>Elena Haven
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>>163922761
> Most unlucky for you.
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>>163923764
Same for me but I'm at AA3. Lost 1k points today. Let's hope everyone in master playing meme deck after patch.
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>>163923927
Banner Sword

>dump followers, draw banner, attack face
>dump followers, draw banner, attack face
>dump followers, draw banner, attack face
>dump followers, draw banner, attack face
>dump followers, draw banner, attack face
>dump followers, draw banner, attack face
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>>163923927
Play cards you get and pray for the best |
Works for every other deck in the game
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>>163923594
touché. I really love how balanced 1 drops are in this game since they provide a lot of tempo balancing them must be very delicate. It's crazy to me that a vanilla 1/2 sees play in top tier decks but that just goes to show how competent the developers are I guess
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>>163923693
How many hours roughly is that?
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>>163923952
Hoy.
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>>163923927
midsword

aggro hard
cockblock and trade
aggro hard
aggro hard, hope they don't get t5 ancient alch into wall
block and trade, hope you get wards and get them low
concede
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Any way for a waitu piggu to obtain the Dorothy card backs?
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>>163921867
Avant is great in control sword which beats up the other aggros
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>>163923927
Storm.

Storm before he drop PtP(s).
Storm and trade.
Storm.
Storm.
Storm and trade.
Pray I open good enough to storm even faster.
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>>163924049
My man.
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>>163923827
Looks pretty good desu. Not too sure about Shadow Reaper. Seems kind of like Holy Mage which doesn't see any play at all but I will certainly be trying it out also.
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New Elites with updated decks to beat when
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>>163922002
>tfw had Forte irl a long time before I even got her in the game
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maintenance starts in 10 mins.
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>>163923952
>>163924049
>>163924168
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>>163923927
midsword :^)

>PTP Elf
Clear elves until T3, then go face.

>Banner Sword
I'm pretty sure this matchup is at least 8-2 midsword favor. You just play Lancer and you probably win.

>DShift
Go fast and pray you're going first.

>Wall Rune ft. Pascal
Just trade efficiently and go face usually

>Aggro Bat
Play lancer, save Barrage, blow them out, play Aurelia

>Elena Haven
Pray a lot and don't brick
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>>163924232

I haven't finished my dailies yet

this is gonna fuck up my schedule forever isn't it?
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>>163924232
How long will it take
Whats the probability of its end being delayed
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>>163923927
>Calamitous curse/petrify
>Veteran alchemist/levi/calamitous
>Hope he's bad
>A board oriented match up, amazing fun
>Veteral aclhemist/levi/calamitous
>Levi/Calamitous/petrify/shadow witch tech/kaleido to grind out/deck out
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>>163924274
>and pray you're going first
literally what
going first vs dshift is AWFUL because they will get their 2 levis/1merlin or 3 levis and you will have your board cleared every turn
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>>163924327
What's the chance of us getting even more free packs on top of the free packs?
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>>163923927
>PTP Elf
>Banner Sword
>DShift
>Wall Rune ft. Pascal
>Aggro Bat
>Elena Haven

face dragon. SMORC them all. or alternatively you can concede
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>>163924354
Yeah, meant second.
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>>163923827
I wasn't aware Tenacious Ghost was part of decks now. Seems good though. Hopefully it works out.
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>Finished all my dailies with 5 minutes left
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>>163922384
>that dragon comeback
Holy shit.
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Whoever was the ptp rune that never conceded when I was control blood let me thank you for allowing me to BM for 10 minutes straight.
That was ridiculous and tons of fun.
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Let's play 100% Orange Juice while maint is on
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>glorious vision of the future
>drop Aurelia
>opponent cant remove her immidiatly and goes for lesser wards and passes
>cyclone slash on Aurelia to clear the board

>realistic vision of the future
>drop Aurelia
>opponent banes her
>continues going face while you have a useless spell in hand
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>>163923927
Aggro Shadow
>PtP Elf
Me do face?
>Banner Sword
Do my best to get board control and then go face around turn 5 or so depending on if I can get board control. If I can't early on I play it like a control matchup until I do get board.
>DShit
Kill the rogue
>Wall Rune
>Wall Rune
>People playing wall rune
If the face plays ward me still go face. Kill wards as efficiently as possible and push face with everything else.
>Aggro Bat
Similar to banner, get control, kill the bats with your 1/2s and sometimes with 2/2s, then go face.
>Elana Haven
worst MU easily. Just go face taking value trades if you're far from lethal and it protects your big minions and going face hard otherwise. Use evolves (especially the first ones) to push face hard. Get her low enough to finish from hand in a few turns by turn 4 or 5. If she stabilizes and gets back up to 10 or 12 health concede to save time.
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you better buy some crystals to support them

t. not cygames intern
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Statistically, how many packs do you need to open on average to get all RoB cards?
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Im going to try Hearthstone while the maintenance is happening. Wish me luck
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>>163924169
It's already a good 2 drop if you manage at least +2/+2 consistently before the ambush fades. And you can still strengthen it more after he's out of ambush.

You have 3 guaranteed opportunities to make it stronger: The turn you play it, the enemy turn, and your next turn. If at least one follower dies at each stage, you can get it to 4/4 (6/6 evolved) on your turn ready to attack.

That's my reasoning anyway.

>>163924462
I like it against Haven matchups because it doesn't get banished before it can do anything.
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> 10 hour maintenance downtime

what am I supposed to do with my life until then?
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>Maintenance

THE FUCK DO I DO NOW????
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Maintenance ongoing. See you guys in another 10 hours.
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>maint starts
>will never see what dailies I got today
>possibly miss out on 2 standard packs and 60 gold
fug
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10 hours until expansion
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Who wants to play some other video games while the maintenance is going ?
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GLORY BE
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I managed to do all my dailies 3 minutes before maintenance.
Feels good.
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>>163924629
It's impossible to get into HS now. You missed it by like two years.
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>>163919095
>going first had a 100% loserate on stream
fucking defend this
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>>163924672

Let's post healthy and cute girls
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>>163924547
mate, this is all you need for board clears
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>Game is down
See you all in 10 hours! Looking forward to all the new stuff people pull!
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>>163924739
I have played it before, i just havent done a single match after gadgetzan launched
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And here i was having an exciting game versus control blood.
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>300 points away for 12k point sleeves
>maintenance
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>>163923927
Mid-Sword/Tempo Forest
>PtP Forest
Race them.
>Banner Sword
wards lmao
>Dshift
Race them, also cockblock their shit with Liza.
>Wall rune with Pascale
??????????? Collect the free win
>Aggro bat
wards lmao
>Elana/Seraph Haven
Early pressure into race, kinda the same deal with PtP but with some extra trades to make sure Elana doesn't pick up much value.
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Just got kicked out of a ranked match. Only ten more hours until expac.
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WHY WOULD YOU START MAINTENANCE IN MIDDLE OF THE DAY YOU FUCKING JAPS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>need 1 win to get the pack from the daily
>maitenance hits
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>163924672
>>163924681

Play the simulation after picking a deck?

http://shadow-pad.com/
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>>163923927
Tempo elf with 2 PTP teched in.

Play aggro hard and fast

Fat ancient elves early on, bounce Tia up and down later

Aggro the shit out of her, even if it meant dropping roaches early on. Cynthia on full fairy board is ideal.

Usual tempo play.

Usual tempo play.

Always trade and go full PTP.
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>>163924804
How the fuck are people not at 12k when then month is almost over ? I'm almost at 50k and I don't play often.
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>>163924829
It's midnight in Japan. They don't give a fuck about gaijins.
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>>163924804
You still have a couple of days man.

>>163924829
It's like 12 pm in japan.
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>>163924620
150
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T R I P L E
R
I
P
L
E
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>Last match in Arena
>Kicked out due to maint

Hold me anons.. ;-;
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>>163917434
>Leaders
Wait what the fuck are we getting new ones?
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>mfw expac soon
>mfw I can soon spend my 6k crystals I have amassed

Who /crystaladdict/ here?
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>>163924547
There's literally no scenario where opponent would leave something like a 5-8/8 on board unless he's conceding next turn from all the face damage.
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>>163924759

I already fapped to Netorare this morning but wasn't able to cum. Seems like I drained my balls to Cuckold JAV a little too hard yesterday.
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>>163924927
Actually, I'm curious, report back after maintenance with what happened to your Arena run.
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>>163924953

>6k crystals

Why ?

Do you mean rupees by any chance ? Why would anyone become such a whale ?
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>>163924941
No one knows. They've said nothing.
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>>163924941
Most people are expecting the characters in the promo video to show up as leaders, since they already have some animation from the PV.
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>>163924985
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well since the game going to maint
lets talk about the lack of porn of this game
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>>163923927
PtP Rune I just like running it

Outlast + Petrify PtP, feels faboured to me
Wall them off
Pray that the turn 68 wall will cause them to burn a destroyer early, cry otherwise
Rush PtP
Wall them off
Laugh as I masturbate on their stupid statue before turning it into a golem.
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>>163924953
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>>163924941

forest: lion man
sword: albert, regal fuckboy
rune: anne, belle of mysteria
blood: vampire shota fuckboy
dragon: literally who dragoon gurl
shadow: zombie
haven: moon bunny
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God damnit, I was just about to blow out a shadow player with no evos left with Yuel and Liza in arena.
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>>163925063
>albert

Man, nothing would make me drop my money faster.
>>
https://youtu.be/R3k-iki9Vi4

BUY NOW
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>>163925063
>lion man
Jesus Christ can we get an actually cute elf girl instead of that cancerous whore?

I'll take regal fuckboy anyday over dame maids.
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>>163925025

I don't give a fuck.

HJMO-345

A couple is separate behind a magic mirror for game cash and they ask the boyfriend questions regarding her girl (such as underwear color or how many sexual partners, one of the girls answers a whopping 15 to the guy's astonishment), if he gets them wrong she has to strip. Unknown to the guy, the girl gets groped, molested and seduced into fucking by a professional actor with an attractive cock. The cast reassures the girl the boyfriend won't be able to see or hear anything, but they still open the magic mirror mid sex.
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>>163924630
Maybe so, feels pretty situational though. As a 2 drop it'll be a 2/2 at best and a 1/1 at worst so we're assuming you aren't playing it on turn 2 unless you have played a 1 drop, though a lot of the time your 1 drop won't trade in the 1st or 2nd turn unless it's a 1/1 skelly which is a bad value situation you don't want to run into anyway. The question after that then is what turn do you play this card? On turn 3 you would rather play your 3 drops so I suppose it is a turn 4 play with another 2 drop. This is a best case scenario though so you will often float 1 or 2 mana to play this on turn 4. I don't see it working out well but I will be pleasantly surprised if it does.
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>>163925193
jav-san get out of /svg/
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So anons, now that most of you have nothing better to do than lurk here for 10 hours, let's hear what deck you are thinking of trying / tweaking after launch.

I'll be trying ramp dragon with Salamander's Breath, and maybe the Dragon tamers in place of the Unicas. I'll also be modifying my sword deck pretty significantly to get ~2 or so Albert, 1 Fangblade Slayer, will try Amelia, Monika, and Cyclone Blade for playtesting but not sold on any of those just yet.
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>tfw your autolose counter bricks
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>>163925251

not until you tell me your favorite netorare story
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>>163925156
Wait, they're rehauling RoB (the game)? Also why mention shadowverse there?
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>>163925023
>>163925063
It's dumb to assume that because the first leader pack didn't even come with DE so new leaders are separate from expansions, and the DE trailer had for example Koga Kunoichi, Ceridwen and Noxious Dragon in it.

Also they haven't said anything.
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>>163924759
God those girls are healthy and cute. Here's another healthy cute girl.
>inb4 /svg/ turns into /c/ for the next 10 hours
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>>163923927
aggro bats

>struggle to win and eventually concede
>struggle to win and eventually concede
>play lots of dudes and go face
>play lots of dudes and go face
>play lots of dudes and go face
>struggle to win and eventually concede
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>10 hours of maintenance
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>>163925340
I am not sure if its a completely new game or just a huge patch
but they're changing the combat and in general making it more like Granblue it seems
and I think they try to commercialize both Rage of Bahamut with Shadowverse Rise of Bahamut
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>>163925372
http://a.pomf.cat/wjzpct.webm
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>>163924630
Man I wish we have good fake card makers. I want to make my OC donut steel cards.
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>>163925490
the legend
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>>163925490

Too bad those twitch instant replay clip things only record the last 30 seconds otherwise I would have included the I AM YUGI MOTO part.
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>>163925063
>Patch notes don't include mentions of leaders
>A literal zombie for a leader
>Our current alt leaders didn't come with DE
>DE PV, much like this one showed silvers and such
As much as I want Mui Seniore Alberto, I'm afraid we're not getting him yet
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>spend 15 mins searching for bank card to buy crystals
>cygames cucked themselves with maintenance
kek, nearly got me there shekelberg
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>>163925490
autism
>>
>>163923432
Post more Etna
POST MORE ETNA
>>
>include 3 copies of 1PP followers
>don't draw them in your starting hand
>draw them on turn 2

Maybe it's a wiser choice to ditch those skullbeasts in midrange variant altogether?
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>>163923927
Dshift

Depends on draws, either play normally or drop Levis on evolve turns and go face. Save Ice Golems for Roach combo turns.

Hope they brick

Dshift race

Win

Hope they brick

Win
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>>163925490

I fucking love k4sen
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>>163924868
>12pm
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>>163925712
still a good soul convert fuel
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>>163925592
assuming you play on steam, you're going to need steam funds to buy crystals. so get on that.
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>>163922283
Daria, Clarke and Piercing Rune are pretty broken. I don't understand why you guys think the deck will be anything other than tier 1.
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Which craft is going to be the memecraft post RoB

>tfw it's still shadow
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>>163925930
With Nepnep I'm almost positive it will still be shadow.
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Anyone who is around DE can confirm on whether all those leaked cards will have any changes upon release?

This card could have been playable if the Necromancy (4) also heals for 2 plus dealing 2 damage.
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>>163925930
H-H-H-Hear the dragons r-roar!!!
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>tfw no concedes today
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>>163925967
Nep wont be even remotely memetic.

The rest of rng cards might though.
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>T1 water fairy
It is your turn, anon.
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>>163926059
uh, back the fuck off?
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>>163925592
>>spend 15 mins searching for bank card
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Does someone have Luna stamps?
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>>163926059
pass
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Anyone can help me?

I keep hearing in my mind a line from a follower but I don't remember which follower it is. I think it's an attack line, sounds female but it may be a monster (maybe shadowcraft?) because it has the typical distorted monstrous effect. It goes "I don't wanna!".
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>>163925592

(((cygames)))
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>>163926059
Turn 1 pass of course.
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>>163926059
Turn 1 N'zoths first mate, coin, southsea deckhand, attack face with southsea and patches, attack fairy with weapons.

Pass.
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>>163926107
Luna's tramp stamps?
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>>163925262
Emmissary Discard Dragon.
Only Emissary targets are Dragoons. Also will run the new amulet searcher and ramp engine.
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>>163926162
>>163926124
>>163926174

T2 Fairy Whisperer

Your turn anon

captcha: turn
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>>163926226

> tramp stamps

do womb tattoos count?
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>>163926008
It would be better if it simply was a 2/3. But Cygames hates Shadow for some reason, since even their 4 drop is offensively statted.
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>>163926265
Dragon oracle
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>>163925262

Probably Urd package of fun. Shadow got some new cheap lastwords to abuse cards like Impious Resurrection.
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>>163926059
Insight
>>163926265
Angelic snipe Whisperer, insight again, pass
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>>163926265
Turn 2 fire waraxe, swing face with everything.

Pass. You're on 10.
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>>163926290

2 to face and Ancient Elf

Your turn
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>>163926265
turn 2 ramp.
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>dies to DoD
>x mana do nothing

Pretty annoying to hear that every time from armchair analysts. What were people saying when Seraph/Elana was released?
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>>163926342
Concede
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https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0051
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CYGAMES DEFENDS GOING SECOND

CYGAMES DEFENDS GOING SECOND

https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0051

CYGAMES DEFENDS GOING SECOND

CYGAMES DEFENDS GOING SECOND
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>>163926232

Anon i can't fap now but dang japs are insane to make feel it
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>>163926360
As opposed to what? Field analysts?
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>>163926360

It'll be a running joke that anything costs 6PP and above will be a snowman.
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>>163916818

>you guys recommend the game because i like YGO

>promise milf waifus

>i install

>hyped to play
>under maintenance
O-ok i'll just go back to duel generation then...
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>>163926342
There's no one else I'd rather lose to.
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>>163926340
If you're talking about HS, opponent is still on 20. Also, turn 1 Mistress of Mixtures turn 2 Doomsayer.
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>>163926426
I told you Elana wasn't getting nerfed you delusional faggots
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>>163926426
>>163926459
going first should also give you two cards so you don't fall behind in cards for no reason
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>>163926382
>>163926493

I win again

Rematch ?
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NO NERFS
NO NOTHING
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>1. No deck was used significantly more than any other.
>2. No deck had a significantly higher win rate than any other.
>3. No class was used significantly more than any other.

Noice.
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>>163926532
I thought we were playing SV here.
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>>163926360
>Seraph/Elana
But neither of those die to DoD, Seraph is a wincon countered by only one (1) card in neuterals (Odin) and Elana is 3 mana give all minions in your deck and hand at LEAST +1/+1 while this is in play, even more if you play a bunch of shit at once.
Neither of those are "Do nothing", but pleanty of this this expansion is definitely do nothing tier trash.
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>>163926556
so that's literally no meta changes at all with this expansion

midsword and forest will do their own thing
elana seraph will still fuck up everyone
dshift will still fuck up elana seraph

what even are other decks
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>>163926459

> nothing will be buffed or nerfed

I'm excited for another three months of ptp elf, elana haven and midrange sword.

Yay~
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>>163926426
>>163926459
>Based on an analysis of the match data for each rank as of the end of December of 2016, we found that:
>1. No deck was used significantly more than any other.
>2. No deck had a significantly higher win rate than any other.
>3. No class was used significantly more than any other.

So, does this mean shadowlog is obsolete and using it as an argument from now on should be met with shitposting?
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>>163926459
>3. Were any classes used significantly more than others?
>Havencraft 21%
>Swordcraft 20.1%
>Bloodcraft 8.8%
>Shadowcraft 6.4%
Really engages my temporal lobe
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>>163926623
Tell that to the pirateshitter.
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>go first
>lose 51% of the time

defend this
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>>163926663
no it's called closing your eyes before an obvious problem
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>>163926663
No because then I can't shitpost.
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>>163926459
They are exceptionally full of shit.
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>>163926663

I love how they needed to repeat the first line as if to re-clarify it.
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>>163926665
That's still acceptable. In shitstone, you have classes that see like 2% of play.
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>>163926609
Doesn't Luna consistently show up pretty far behind on the usage rankings provided in game though?
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>>163926569
Going second only gives you one more card
if you lose because of having 1 less card then something is wrong with your playstyle/deck
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>>163926697
>Remove the extra draw for second players
>Win 55% of the time

Defend this
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>>163926648
midsword is dead thanks to lucius and blood's removal in general
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>>163926571
>(We realize that this might come s a shock, but please hear us out.)
WELL?? I'M FUCKING WAITING
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>>163926754
It's an unnecessary advantage that could be reduced by giving the 1st going player something. It's not a big deal but it would lessen the gap a little bit.
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>>163926763
>lucius of killing your own shit
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>47%
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Is granblue fantasy worth a try while waiting?
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>>163926360
>What were people saying when Seraph/Elana was released?
Exactly those things.
Elana: muh tempo loss (almost every amulet card gets this one)
Seraph: If you do nothing on turn 8 you lose the game, simple as that *smug face*
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>>163925262
I'll just be copying what my favorite Masters dragon player does like always.
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I agree that its a waste trying to make balance changes before the expansion arrives since we do not know how the expansion will affect the meta
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>no changes
>many more months of people upset about Elana

Oh boy, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to handle it.
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Honestly DShift and Elana aren't in that need of nerfs, nerfing them would remove some bad matchups for some decks who could get more play with the new cards
Anyways, what i am suppoosed to do now? I can't fap to Forte for 10 hours straight
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>>163926665
They said some classes are less played. What they meant is that there is no class with 50% use, but quite a few with decent stats.
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>>163926882

> we do not know how the expansion will affect the meta

spoilers: it won't
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>>163926763
Literally every craft got an answer to midsword's engine, some got more than 1 and even neutral got one. Midsword as it is right now will need to adapt. And for those who say we survived Themis and expect little to change, these are one-sided board clears. Remember playing against ramp dragon when they cavalier into Fafnir? That is your Otomeme from now on.
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>>163926426
>our changes are based on data
>no data was collected on homecoming in DE envirnoment before nerfing the card

I cannot see how homecoming warrants a nerf in de. Most aggro decks kill you at 5-6th turn, many of them have storm followers. Dshift and seraph dont give a fuck and win anyway.
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>>163926882
TOTSUGEKIIIIIIIIIIII
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I'm just going to come out say that I don't believe the 49% winrate Cygames is giving us. I think they're lying.
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>>163926858
No. Stay far far away. Granblue is a timely "investment" if you want something fun right off the bat play their other game sta
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>>163926754
It's important in arena considering how dysfunctional decks are and having more choice early is preferable.
It's important for sensitive decks like dirtrune (which has 36% win ratio going first)
It helps to set up combos.
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>>163926910
or can you

>>163926916
pretty much noone here talked about Elana or Storm haven before DE
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>>163926886
Svg is the only place people are butthurt about Elana. It gets badly destroyed by both Sword and Dragon post expansion.
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>1. No deck was used significantly more than any other.
>3. No class was used significantly more than any other.
These two are so blatantly false, how can they expect anyone to believe it?
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>>163926985
Because neither of them existed before DE
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>>163926926
midsword didn't survive themis, elana seraph is night impossible to win against
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>cygames is totally fine with this

So the only change for the next 3 months is that all homecoming copies no longer give you full vial.

Brilliant, cygames. Fucking brilliant.
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>>163926107
Is this for Line?
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>Going first winrate is less than 50%
>It's okay guys, it's nothing significant ;^)

Yeah fuck you Cygames.
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>>163926984
It's pretty obvious that 1st and 2nd are unbalanced in arena. I don't think it'll change that much with the expansion either because having an evolve just means easier removal with whatever deck you have.
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>>163927031
I see just about every deck at AA3. My last 10 games in ranked have had only 2 haven and 1 Forest
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>>163927031
So which deck are you talking about then? They mean there's no ONE deck/class that's dominating like PtP Forest was pre-DE.
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>>163927007
>Svg is the only place people are butthurt about Elana
LMAO have you ever opened one of those @shadowversegame tweets about elana
it's full of salt, both western and eastern
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sad. i dont actually believe what they said. the word "significant" is a cheap word to use. but maybe the expansion will change things up.
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>maint
>in middle of the day
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>>163927059
>comparing bronze to gold card

Next time you gonna post how Aurelia is much better than Angelic Sword Maiden.
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>>163927047
Storm Haven existed, but it was t3 at best
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>>163927059
I think you forgot 105 new cards.
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>>163927059
Garuda is fine though.
Look at the rest of 6 drops like Sage commander, Cynthia and now Mahes and Taboo. (probably some other shit I'm forgetting about as well)
All of them are overstatted and crammed full of special effects.

Turn 6 seems to be designed as a big swing/game ending turn at the moment.
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>3 more months of Havenverse
I'm out.
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>>163927142
>They mean there's no ONE deck/class that's dominating like PtP Forest was pre-DE.
That's one really fucking high bar to clear
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>>163927053
I'm predicting midsword will become an aggro variant with storm that ditches banner for a few of the faster commanders. It's going to become so much harder to maintain a board with all the new stuff.
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>>163927154
>westerners matter
it's past midnight on a working day in japan
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>>163927154
>japan
>middle of the day

would you rather have us play on a (dead) engrish only server you dumb frogposter?
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>>163927096
Chitose leader when?
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>>163927047
No you retard
I meant the pre-patch discussion about DE
Noone knew that Haven would become such a power-house from the DE expansion.
By anything people spoke about how interesting Seraph was, yet Seraph became pretty much nothing while Garuda storm and Elana heal became the haven meta.

Just like we don't know how the meta will change in RoB
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>>163927191

>105

wait what ?
>>
how could they not at the very least change elana from 3 to 4pp or something? not even a LITTLE change? ;_;
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>>163926953
They're being pussies. They're afraid they'll make any game-breaking changes, so they'll wait things out basically.
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https://shadowverse.com/news/column/column-035

https://shadowverse.com/news/column/column-035

https://shadowverse.com/news/column/column-035

https://shadowverse.com/news/column/column-035
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>>163927278
Rise of Bahamut? Hello??
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>>163927154
dumb frog
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>Elana is fine
>Conjuring Force was not
Really gets the noodle boiling
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>>163927257
>Seraph became pretty much nothing
Isn't Elana Seraph better than pure Elana?
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>>163927370

Yeah but 105 ?

God damn
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>>163926953
>>163927332
Its probably legit but
Aggro decks like banner sword and Garuda storm most likely affected the going first statistics a lot
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>elana wont be nerfed
lmao get fucked haven haters
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>>163927232
That's just face sword and it already exists
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>>163927392

healing is hard while casting a spell is more than 75% of your typical runecraft deck so it's balanced
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>>163927367
so no nerf?
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>>163927436
garuda is not an aggro deck and does better when going second
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>>163927436
Amd Dshift and Control Sword affected the going second win rtes.
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>>163927367
>issue Dshift is a braindead uncounterable autowin
>Dshift can no longer go below 10 cost
Please cygames
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>>163927425
Yeah recently
But the pure seraph tons of wards spam that was popular at DE release disappeared fast
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>>163927470
>Havenbabs actually believe this
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>>163927425
A lot better. Pure Elana is pretty bad and almost nobody uses it anymore.
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>>163926459
shitters completely blown the fuck out
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>>163927456
gonna play dshift full time now, enjoy
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>>163927501
Yeah but what do you think is more common
This 35k vials cost control sword
Or a 5k banner sword
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>>163927392
If you were around for the snowmen armies of doom you would understand
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>>163926481

Also why is there no offline mode?


Uninstalling...


I'm going to go try soccer spirits now..
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GOOGLE PLAY VERSION UPDATED
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>>163927507
do you know what this would cause
99% of the ladder would be elana seraph vs everyone else vs aggro decks trying to counter elana seraph
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>10% winrate difference between going 1st vs going 2nd in Take Two.
>"Hopefully the upcoming cards from the Rage of Bahamut expansion will fix it :^)" - cygames
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>>163927207

>Garuda dealing 3 damage unconditionally is fine while another follower needs 1 Shadow for 1 damage

Yeah right.
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>>163927673
We get rabbit armies of doom now tho
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>>163927748
>10%
lmao at your life
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Elana Seraph is only good because no one attempts to counter it, because its not even tier one. People play Barrage and 1/2s because they counter a top tier deck, which Seraph Haven is not.

Just try running a couple executions or Odins in your deck. Just two Odins in CSword makes the matchup highly in your favor. Haven decks run Odin just for the mirror. These cards are why Seraph Haven will never be tier one, because unlike Barrage and a 1/2, these cards are much harder counters.
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https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=158
no nerfs just buy the new set goi.
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>>163927748
dumb people not picking sword
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NEW
>>163927812
>>163927812
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>>163927723
That's basically what it is right now though
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>>163927756
What if the next Shadow leggo is 9PP 5/5 Necromancy 2: Deal 1 damage to the enemy leader. Repeat for remaining shadows.
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>No nerf for Elana and Aria

Orait, that's it. Who's else gonna switch to Hearthstone here?? At least Blizzard listened to their players on how to balanced a game
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>>163927856
Literally worse Turant
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>>163927920
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>163927920
COUGHDRBOOMCOUGH
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>>163927816
>Execution

You're supposed to win, not let them win faster
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>>163927930
More flexible though. Tyrant needs 20 or bust. Also, goes through Ward.
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You can lethal with garuda with no board presence. You cant do the same with cynthia and sage. Haven can create an impossible board as soon as t5 AND deal shit ton of face damge at the same turn. And it is not even remotely rare scenario. Only aggro bats can compete with the amount of tempo and smorc power but they dont have the draws, the wards, the removals, the board clear, and the stats.
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>>163927367
>We’d like to supplement this by explaining that we used the word “stressful” in order to explain our policy of ensuring that abilities can’t easily interfere with a player’s hand or cards.
I don't understand why people avoid wanting to interact with your opponent's hand. From my experience, it puts another layer of depth into the game. People would also complain about dshift less.
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>>163927920
>listening to redditors
i rather shadowverse stay however broken it is then ever do this
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Who else is making a Goblin Mage/Feena deck immediately?
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>>163932474

I want to make a Goblin/Mage Feena PtP neutral deck with ultimate carrots.
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wow it's amazing how dead this thread is when the game is under maintenance
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