/twg/ - Total War General

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1st for carpets

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this kills the ere campaign

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>>163802019

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What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

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BIG
BRACK
MATCHROCKS

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Give me your thoughts/critiques famalam

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11963283
http://www.strawpoll.me/11963283
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Poll here.

>>163803014
but anon, that IS the ERE campaign.

Get your spears ready for those armenian spear/cataphract doomstacks

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--UFqAsaEQ

>>163803256
it might be worth it to just take 2 light wizards if you are going to do that, just to be extra sure something doesn't slip through the cracks.

>>163803256
take a flame wizard for roasting trees, good endgame, prepare to lose the handgunners against multiple enemy stacks if the ai isnt being retarded though

>>163802821
whats a manlet?

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>>163803256
Made a few improvements here and there

Can someone recommend some formations for FOTS?

>>163803030
Ah fuck what's this from. I don't wanna dig through the /wsg/ thread.

>>163804375
kizu part 2

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

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QUICK

Sigvald or Archaeon for Chaos campaign?

>>163804962
Sigvald is a pain in the ass to unlock since you got to deal with the shitty north.

>>163804962
People say Sigvald is hard to unlock but you can just raze/awake/raze the same settlement over and over until you get him. Pick whoever you like the look of.

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>>163804962
Choosing some fuckboi insted of the EverCHOSEN

>>163804962

Attila the Hun

I like warhammer but dislike the amount of DLC, is there anyway I can get them for free or do I have to buck up

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SAYBUR AT DA REDDY

Can someone advise on how I should upgrade Belegar Ironhammer? I'd think with a name like Ironhammer he'd be a beast in melee but he doesn't seem like it honestly.

>>163805637
Belegar fucks up a lot of the other lords and any of the generic lords pretty good, a lot of his shtick is meant to make him a good duelist.

>>163805637
melee/unit buffs
You want the ironbreaker one to be precise

Sure is one clusterfuck of factions.

Too bad I won't be able to clean it out once I unite Reikland, I'll have to prepare for the first chaos invasion real soon.

What's a good army to take care of that? I've got lightning strike Vlad for the job.

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>>163806093

And then I forgot my pic.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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G O B L I N S

>capture a town
>wreck the shit out of it
>attacked next turn
>get morale/defence/attack penalty from settlement destruction
why are there so many oversights in attila?

>>163806093
>9 grave guard GW
>2 varghulfs
>4 blood knights
>2 terrorgheists
>claw of nagash
>mortis engine

>>163803215
>Using heathen weaponry

Day 217
Warhammer is still shit.

>>163804478
I had a vision of Gilles Le Breton.

He told me the Lady was a wood elf.

>>163806456
Peasants don't have visions.

>>163805009
you get him by turn 20 TOP and run away to spread chaos :DD~

>>163806353
It was rushed to hell and then abandoned so they could focus on Warhammer

>>163806628
Did you know the Empire doesn't have peasants? People are called citizens instead.

It really must be a nice place to live.

>>163805979
>>163806007
>Ask for advice
>Get two contradicting answers
So which do I go for? Can he wreck shit good or do I make him a wannabe Skarsnik where he just makes everything in his army good?

>>163806894
Did you know the Empire is going to be conquered by Bretonnia when Bretonnia is released?

Those "citizens" will be reminded of their place soon enough.

>>163806993
How can that happen when you incompetent knights can't take care of Mousillon?

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>>163807093
Mousillon has already been taken care of thanks to one thing and one thing alone.

>tfw Persians rolling me back hard
Upset on one hand but on the other it feels cool to have a grand enough eperience for this to happen

>>163801650 →
Enjoy being cyclecharged to death.

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>>163807302
pic for context

>>163806916
You only need ironbreakers buffs in the leadership tree. Everything else you can pump into a melee chain.

>>163807412
He's talking about singleplayer. Multiplayer meta isn't exactly healthy.

>>163806759
warhammer is total wars flag ship game for the next 2 years

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Do Asrai enjoy Bretonnian cuisine as well?

I mean, give and TAKE, right?

do the beastmen suck or do i suck? im nearing turn 100 and i'm still working on the bretonnian kingdoms. lyonesse and bretonnia are my next targets.

>>163807758
They suck anon

>>163807697
>Bretonnian "cuisine"
>mud pies and turnips

>>163806759
I personally believe the "CA don't playtest their own games / their playtesters are SHIT" hypothesis

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>The DLC still isn't on sale
I'll be damned if I pay $20 for the shitty Beastmen and $8 for Chaos, AKA "Chores: The Faction".

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any master under-standers of strategy have advice for how to use these gaijin effectively?

How well does financing enemies of your enemies work?
I'm at war with Nagoaka (playing as Obama), we don't have direct land connection but they keep sending shitloads of ships and fucking my trade up.

>>163808516
How would you feel about paying 14 dollars for Beastmen?

>>163808649
have em shoot japs

>>163807758
What's your stack composition? Running a 2stack, 1stack, or 1.1stack setup?

Wood Elves or Argwylon? This will be my first campaign on hard.

>>163806916

The ranger buffs Belegar gets in his first tier of red is ridiculous. The bonuses to missile damage make them some of the most dangerous and indisputably the most cost efficient ranged units in the game.

Past that, you should definitely build him as a duelist. There are far better dwarf lords if you want to turn your anvil into a hammer all it's own.

>>163808649
they have rifles and outclass every other infantry unit in melee

you'll figure something out

>>163808649
fire by rank requires the enemy to be closer than usual and is not recommended when skirmishing with the enemy

>>163809068

Argwylon is easier due to Durthu's ability to fuck off to Norsca almost immediately. Wood Elves proper have a more difficult start with higher payoffs if you choose to take on Tilea early.

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>>163808194
"It smells like bretonnian wine gone sour!"

>>163809643

Is there anywhere I can find all the voice lines for Vermintide?

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>>163809643
Superior welf waifu coming trough.

Hey, here's a simple question for you bozos.

Am I gonna get smoother framerates by turning down the unit sizes or am I better off just turning everything down by 1 level?

Also are smaller units fun (normal size, rather)? I have it set to ultra because I'm a huge faggot who thinks more = better. But I know damn well that I don't like ultra in rome 1, I'd rather have 80 to a unit, but that's probably bias because my computer couldn't handle more back then.

>genocided wood elves
>immediately went and downloaded a mod that lets me resurrect them and bretonnia since they killed each other
I just want the good guys to survive, but Orion goes full retard and attacks the good guys.

>>163810020
Wood Elves aren't good.

>>163807697
Source.
asrai quest nets me nothing but warhammer models.

>>163810058
They are better than greenskins, vampire counts, beastmen and chaos warriors.

>>163810058
>protects the forest
>cares about nature
>vegan
They're the only good guys

>>163810183
No they're not. Vampire Counts are the most good because they piss off Nurgle. Wood Elves just call each other traitors all day.

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>Gobbo Archers

>>163803950
>Archaon
>Not Kholek
>Not at least 1 hell cannon for manual targeting.

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>happily playing total war before going to my parents for the weekend
>eager to get home
>no desire to play anything
kill me now lads

>>163810296
Every vampire count is an asshole who wants everyone to be dead except for end times Vlad and Abhorash.

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>>163810361
>choosing a giant lizard-ogre over the EverCHOSEN
>removing one unit of Chosen for the sake of a hellcannon, which isn't even manned by Chosen

>>163810470
Vlad is the only true Vampire Count.

>>163810492
But knights aren't chosen either, so by that logic they should be more chosen on the flanks.

>>163809806
You can keep your Goku hair elf, I'll take qt waywatcher.

>>163808649
get the kneel fire mod so rifle infantry are actually useful

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>>163810608
Knights with lances have Chosen gear which makes them Chosen Knights

>>163810058
>protects their forest
>canonically allied with bretonnia
>known to work with the empire and even dwarves if they have to

>>163810732
But they aren't called Chosen knights, they're Chaos knights. Where does it specify they're Chosen?

>>163803950
Swap out the Knights with Dragon Ogres and you are set!

>>163810732
Are you saying only the gear is Chosen?

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Has anyone here played Attila with Europa Perdita? Is it worth starting a new GC with or should I just skip it?

>>163810763
Not good. Only Vampire Counts are good.

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>>163810361
>Manual targetting is a tradition with my friend in total war, abusing the fuck out of catapults right behind the front line in atilla to get hundreds of kills.
>Mfw trying out the hellcannon for the first time

>tfw only Carsteins and Strigoi vampires so far
>They didn't take the chance to give VC some Necrarchs for spellcasting
>No Lahmians until Tomb Kings land comes around probably
>Mahtmasi and Jade never

Not that long ago I played a Necrarch living in the mountains with an okay sized little city to administrate over in Geheimnisnacht, now that was comfy.

>>163810296
>Vampire Counts are the most good because they piss off Nurgle.

How do they do that? Killing off diseases?

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>>163810789
Their gear was chosen by Chosen. So that means that Chosen gave part of their gear to knights with lances, which means that they chose this knights to be Chosen Knights with Lances. The game doesn't have the right to dictate what Chosen can and cannot do. If Chosen decide that the knights are worthy to wear part of their armor and weapons, then that makes them Chosen too.
>implying chaos gods or CA have power
Chosen are the one pulling the strings

>>163810893
man its always something with you warhammer dudes
always some who knows whats it not there for everyone

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>>163810893
> Mahtmasi and Jades
Mah boi

I'm sad that Strigoi came with G&G instead of Necrarchs. We could have had a Mourkain/Strygos subfaction lead by Ushoran.

>>163811093
I mean the last two I wouldn't even expect ever because they're scant even in lore shit, Lahmians eh, Necrarchs are neat though and I legitimately bemoan there's none of them in yet. They're your actual nosferatu, rotting monster lookin vampires and the bloodline most apt at slinging that good shit necro magic.

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>>163810893
Too bad spells are mostly fucked without mods.

But I feel like Necrarchs would be comfy as shit. Like Dwarfs without the boring units.

>>163811063
They fuck him over by disrupting his stagnation effect. The undead are sterile and static, they don't really grow or decay, so Chaos' wild changing influence don't have any sway over them.

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>>163811164
>yfw CA get the greenlight from GW to go whole hog on an extra year
>Cathay and Araby added
>Albion added
>The very last faction they add with that is Chaos Dwarfs

>>163811070
So the knights were chosen by the chosen to have the privilege to wear the gear they were chosen for? Wouldn't that make the Chosen traitors for giving away their chosen gear?

>>163811572
Chosen aren't defined by the kit, I mean there've been some chosen and shit that were practically still running around looking like a demonic Conan.

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>>163810861
>look it up on youtube
>you can actually aim the ball midair
All those wasted hours

>>163811446
Christ, if they had just gotten the go-ahead for four games, we'd be fucking set with all sorts of stuff.

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>>163811572
If Chosen had betrayed themselves than that wouldn't be a betrayal, because it was their choice as the Chosen, so the world would have to adjust that to be a not-betrayal, but a gift to the chosen knights.

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>>163811572
>>163811729

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>>163811810
>he can't handle Chosen doing Chosen things and choosing to be Chosen
Low test, baka desu senpai

>tfw you feel like printing out all the 8 ed. codex shit
how much paper and ink am i gonna burn through lads

>>163811692
Enjoy doing 90 degree turns with the thing, routing a unit on a wall with a single shot.
It must be absolutely terrifying to be on the recieving end of, a screaming ball of souls that you think has missed you to suddenly switch trajectory and liquidate you and your closest 50 friends.

I came down from karak norn one day looking to sell some arrows to some guy I knew in some Brettonian shithole, when I noticed a light coming from somewhere out in the woods alongside the path I was on. Being the inquisitive dawi I am I went to go investigate, and stumbled upon a tranquil little pond I had never seen before. The glow was coming from the pond itself, and I was ready to leave and write it off as elf non-sense when all of the sudden, this tall beautiful woman rose from the pond, butt-ass naked, with long perfect hair that just barely covered her tits - now I usually like my woman short and hairy, but this was an opportunity I could not pass up. So this lady just pounces on me, still covered in pondwater, and starts ripping me armor off! Next thing you know I'm shoving my huge, thick 4 inch dwarven cock into this lady's asshole (she said she was saving her virginity for some wazzock named leon). After about 4 hours of violating her tight pink asshole (dawi are known for their endurances), I pull out and spray her supple tits with a massive load of my mineral-rich seed. As I'm getting dressed and getting ready to leave the lady (as she calls herself) sinks back into her little pond, but not before giving me a piece of parchment with the address of some place in athel loren so that we can meet up later and shag again. As I put the paper in my pocket, I noticed my az was gone, replaced by an umgi-sized blade that was surrounded by this magical pale flame, just like those horse-knights use.

Long story short, I'm now eskimo brothers with every single grail knight in brettonia

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>mfw it's stabby time

>>163811729
Why are those two naked?

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this should be fun

>>163812549
post pics

>>163812384
While some artists like to draw night elves forcing themselves onto others, this particular artist loves drawing orcs dominating the ancient and powerful race next-door.

>>163812384
Thinking of Chosen

>>163807462
holy fuck sort yourself out
best policy for persia is to bribe them imo
send 2k per tern until youre in the green with them and they will leave you alone

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>>163811164

I wish they expanded on Strigoi Kingdoms at least

Chosen are stupid

>>163812871

>doesn't attack the farmers
>but fuck any merchant that tries to step onto my land :^)

Seem's like a swell guy.

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>mfw non-humans attempt to exist near me

giving R2 another try after a year, and for some reason I find it pretty damn enjoyable, even in comparison to Attila

why does everyone hate it so much?

>dat lighting
>dem MAPS

>>163812871
I wish the map and its nations were easily moddable.

>>163812284
I want to dominate a best elf!

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>>163813068
>t. low test vampire

>>163812549
>read: multi-tiered matchlock musketry obstacle course massacre

>>163809732
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MWzFIW9a25DIxtffTkHvRHUu5XfUlIDNkfOqOA6eRlo/pubhtml#

Is Warhammer the best TW game?
Better than Napoleon? Better than Rome 2?

>>163813531
depends on how interested you are in the setting
campaign grand strategy mechanics are at the lowest it's ever been, though

>>163813531
Not even close.

>>163813531
we are at 100$+ in dlc and gc can still use more work

>>163810147
Some nipspeak of Elf can't into Diet

Playing LME for Napoleon as Spain, am I supposed to be making huge amounts of money? I could probably supply like 10 stacks.

>>163813126
>He thinks he'd prefer living in a shitty mortal kingdom over vamp-land

stay shleep

>>163813531
it's good but not the best, purely because of the DLC and poor campaign map

>>163811070
>chosen by the chosen
iirc it's just mass produced by the Chaos Dorfs in exchange for slaves

>>163813968
>implying the armor itself didn't have to be proven and tested compared to other armors in order to become Chosen armor

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R O A N O K E

>>163813968
consider this >>163814082
The armor is chosen by the Chosen

>>163814082
>>163814285
Your rifle isn't special, even if it yours

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Elven infantry sure is something.

>>163813997
>oily gooks

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>Belegar campaign on hard

>>163814461
How do those elves have a unit of gobbos

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>>163814461
>Dawi-Hater
You're a bro tbqh

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>>163814580

>tree hitler, Skarsnik, Mutinous gits and Wurrzag all team to fuck your dwarf pussy

>>163814453
>that's what low test humans actually belive
Everything is special if chosen by the Chosen, because it grants the item the power of being the Chosen's item, which provides it with quality improvements beyond low test fags comprehension.

>>163814592
Modded unit, it was a garrison leader.

>>163814671

Stunties said something bad about Martin mama and he can't let it go.

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>he fell for the 'Rome 2 is bad' meme

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>>163814854
>he fell for the 'Rome 2 is good' meme

Someone post the chart

>>163813750
W-what?

Also I tried searching "french fries are a gift from god, a sacred food" and now I'm just hungry.

>>163814580
>playing anything less than Very Hard

>>163815114
I'm having trouble just on hard man. I'm new.

>>163815208
The first thing you need to do is break your treaty with the elves and raze Athel Loren to the ground. Grudges need to be settled. You are revenge incarnate.

>>163815293
First thing you need to do is pick a faction with more than 0 campaign move range**

>Beastmen ambush maps only let you attack from one side, even though there is plenty of room on the other side to put your troops

Why?

>>163815293
I have no grudges with the elves, although I do regret not breaking my alliance with that shit eating Orion fag.
>Like turn 15
>Irrelevant ass elves declare war on me
>Orion tells me to get fucked and abandons me
>Like 5 turns later he declares war
>Kicked his ass and he now wants a peace treaty
If I sack the Oak of Ages will that cripple them long enough for them to fuck off forever or will they come back?

>>163815510
>I have no grudges with the elves

Yes you fucking do. The elves earned a chapter in the Book of Grudges, along with Grimgor and Skarsnik.

>>163815567
The only grudge I see is to take back Eight Peaks. I think I may have gotten a grudge when Orion doc'd me, but I fucked him up good. Now I'm just sitting around replenishing waiting to try and sack their precious tree. Also I don't know where Durthu went, I saw him on the map and then he just disappeared.

>>163815041
sheesh, you're really desperate or what?

Its by Synecdoche AKA Methonium

>>163816079
Yes.
Elf was cute. I want to see cute elf.

Can someone explain this shit to me.
Using the Roanoke, in a battle against 6 enemy ships.
6 of my guns are destroyed, but the ship keeps alternating between having all 6 on one side working, and then all 6 on the other side, every few seconds

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the game thinks this is a walled settlement...

>>163814854
>Rome 2
>bad
but that's true you fucking casual

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>>163815429
Because they're just retarded half-animals

>>163816632
Because it is?

>>163816551
You sure its really destroyed, not reloading?

I mean the tooltip light on and off, not Guns 6/12?

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>>163816632
>level 4 towns get walls
neat

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Holy piss this is easy.

>>163816551
Must be how the turrets work.

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>>163818396

>hasn't done any of the quests for Archy
>3 random Chosen + shields

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>>163815567
>The elves earned a chapter in the Book of Grudges

Careful now, I think you mean an entire Library. You do not want to offend the Dawi.

>>163818396
>Using Chosen

I have absolutely no clue what /twg/ is about except for the fact that it sorta plays like the Feudalism flash games and that Attila has a mechanic where the world fertility decreases over time.

Should I buy Attila while it's on sale? If not, what game should I start with?

>>163818778

>called the everchosen
>not using chosen

shig

>>163817002
>TW
>Hardcore

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C H O S E N
H
O
S
E
N

stop shit-talking them RIGHT NOW!!

>>163819067
chosen melt to rifle fire, that makes them shit.

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>>163818785

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>>163819086
Everything that's armored melts to rifle fire, is every high tier unit shit then?

>>163817232
>>163817232
Said 6 guns on the shits card at the bottom of the screen

>>163819107
Sure. It's $11, mate.

>>163818785
start with anything but attila. it's a decent game but not a great introduction to the series

>>163803256
5 Steam tanks:
Arranged in a graduated chevron/arrowhead formation with about 1 to 1.5 units (any infantry in extended line formation) worth of space between each.
Next line is 5 Hand Gunners placed at half of their maximum range away from tanks. That way they can engage the enemy at terror/fear/psychological impact range (with respect to the steam tanks).
Next is 5 Outriders, lined up immediately behind the gunners, so that they can shoot over the heads of the gunners.
Last five are usually assorted heroes or extra artillery pieces strewn behind the line of rifles.

If you're at risk of being flanked, simply take heros and counter the flank.
Or, prior to the battle, turn your flank/s outward, leaving the three or four inner lines to deal with the brunt of the attack.
It's pretty much auto-win after you hit Start battle.
The only risk is amassed giant units (which can be countered with single-target mages, or focused fire), or a human being commanding the enemy forces.

>>163818785
attila is amazing but really in depth, shogun 2 is a pretty good introduction to the series, lets you pick up the skills needed to do well in the other games without having to know absolutely everything because every faction has mostly the same units

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Outta the way Chaos shit

>>163819745

Are balefire any good? What's the difference?

t. never played vamp cucks but kinda want to

>>163818778
>not using chosen
jelly low test fag detected

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>>163819745
>not even EverChosen
>only one Chosen in the army
>bunch of low test chaos infantry in the army
>even the fucking doggos

Not worthy

>>163820238
>chosen are bitch asses who'll sell their armour to any fucc boi who has a horse
???

>>163819176
Yes, when charging lines of rifle fire, every unit sucks.
except the fast ones
and the ones with longer range
and the ones that are invisible
and the ones that don't break under stress
and the ones that don't lose combat efficiency while taking losses
You can also counter ranged with expendables.
>stop outside range
>summon zombies inside range
>heal zombies while they take fire
>expend enemy ammunition on weak shits
>send in strong shits
This is also why elite military units don't guard front lines (IRL). Attrition is a bitch.

>>163820327
>expend enemy ammunition
I think you're doing something wrong if battles are lasting this long without anything happening to their rifles

>>163820327
That point is kinda redundant when all your army consists of Chosen. You can afford to send some to Valhalla prematurely.

>>163819926
I'm using the bell because I can't make a Mortis engine yet.

Balefire cart isn't so good because it doesn't regen your units, it drain magic from the enemy while providing the Rigor Mortis bonus to your nearby units.

Lodestone give regen and Rigor Mortis so I like it more.

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>>163820327
Mannfred confirmed best LL and Vampire Counts best race, this is objectively true

>>163819086
how do you get your riflemen in position before your frontline dies to terror?

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>>163820587
Don't forget your sippy cup, Mannlet.

>>163820432
I play a slow game.
My battles are often an hour+ long and my games go past 400 turns regularly.
Come to think of it, 400 is about the halfway point; usually after I defeat Chaos and the land-grab starts.
Patience is a virtue.
>no battle time limit
>legendary, so no peeking at the enemy positions
>greuling sieges with doomstacks being swiftly exchanged (withdrawn) as they deplete their ammunition reserves firing upon the enemy walls and towers
The lives of my men are not to be toyed with.

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>>163820587
Manny, pls

why do you guys call him a manlet?

>>163820449
True! In fact, if I were playing Chaos, all strategy would go out the window and be replaced with "Go smack them heavy, sharp objects."
I like to imagine that the forces of Chaos have lost all humanity and bloodlust is the only driving factor.

>>163820887
His height was confirmed for 5'2" in The End Times.

>>163820729
is it autism?

>>163820986
It's fucking close, if not.
If you're gonna RP, though, fucking RP.
No?

>>163820921
Wait, for fucking real?

>>163820921
Is that why he stabbed the better mage?

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hmm i wonder whats going on over there

Posted it in other thread since I didn't realize someone made a new one early - picking up Attila and was wondering what DLCs people recommend.

I only really play the grand campaign so the campaign packs aren't worth much to me, but I could be persuaded to check them out if they're really good.

Does Blood & Burning, Empires of Sand, and Vikings + Celts seem alright? I don't know much about the Longbeards or Slavs.

>>163821049
Yes.

No.

>>163820915
They just became /fit/ and ascended above mortal beings. Chosen is the final stage of transformation.

>>163821257
Blood and Burning is really useless, only get it if you want to waste money

>The wall that said it was indestructible collapses and instantly kills my rank 20 lord who was scouting for my artillery

I'm mad

>>163821320
But it's only 75 cents and I like seeing carnage.

>>163818601
>needing the crutches that the game designers called quests
>variance in military is a bad thing
>units cannot have a dedicated purpose such as spearheading an attack against primarily ranged units (where shields might prevent a loss or fifty)
Are you retarded?

>>163821365
>Chosen entering a stare contest with The Wall
The Wall had no chance desu

>>163821319
>Why do we raid your lands?
>For the gains, of course.

>>163821415
>Not getting items intended for your lord out of some misguided sense of useless pride
Are YOU retarded?

>>163821571
>Chosen don't die
>they go cutting to hell

Why do you hate skillpoint mods, /twg/? With all the skills available in Warhammer, isn't it a shame that you only get 29 points to spend?

>mod HPM for vicky 2 to have an India as if Clive lost and Brits were kicked out for good
>changes don't show up in game
>double check all files involved, should be fine
>changes still don't show up

Even outside of the game, the UK is still fucking with me. Fuck this shit, I just want to get revenge for based Tippu Sultan, and no TW game will let me.

How are the Ikko Ikki in S2? I want to stick it to the faggots who won in real history, and Japan will have to do in place of India.

>>163821641
>going out of your way to get a shiny bauble that won't make any difference in battle, given that you're commanding your troops appropriately
I do usually get them. I just don't spas out when I see that others haven't, because if you're putting your lord in a position where it would live or die by the quest items (the only time it would matter), you're probably commanding them poorly in the first place.

>>163821668
i cannot be certain anything that alters the game in this manner is truly balanced as CA intended
who can i trust?!?!?!?!?
no one

>>163821742
>falling for the HPM meme

Ikko Ikki are fun, yes

>>163822064

>falling for the anti-HPM meme

PDM a shit, vanilla a shit

Well, guess I'm installing 23 gigs just for the Japs.

>>163821668

Our legendary lords, or at least our faction leader, should be able to pimp themselves out completely. Otherwise I'll never fill out the personal combat or campaign skill lines.

Restrictions on normal lords is just fine though.

does anyone remember the brief spark of repulse against attila when the announcement first came out? people complaining about 'why make a game literally set after rome 2' and stuff

now I just find it interesting since attila is basically the most in depth total war game there is

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This is my first campaign on hard. Holy shit is it hard.
>Finally have killed Skarsnik
>Rebellion over in my home province
>Currently have like 5 grudges
>Fucking mutinous gits keep coming out of nowhere sacking my shit

>>163822346

I was pissed we weren't getting something interesting like Pike and Shot.

And now I'm really interested in Late Antiquity and shill for Attila all the time until I got fed up with the shit performance and loading times

>>163822429
Woops, I forgot to ask: Should I recruit dorfs with shields or great weapons? I'm impressed with how well just regular warriors can tank lines, they've done alright by me so far.

>>163822481
great weapons are shit, don't bother

>>163822346
>now I just find it interesting since attila is basically the most in depth total war game there is

Thats because its a guessing game with how lazy CA decide to be with each release.

I suspect Attila was a kick up the ass response to the Rome 2 launch abortion, so they put in a good amount of features for Attila and had most of the game well fixed on day one.

Warhammer could have been the deepest Total War quite easily but they decided to not bother for 'reasons'.

>>163822481
"Dorfs"
>regulars
>great weapons
Regulars tie them up; flank with great weapons.
Works against cav charges, too. If they penetrate your lines, they're greeted with the second line holding great weapons.

Also
>using anything but thunderers and gunpowder units
>tfw their 500+ losses to my zero losses
Enjoy your replenishment.

How do I effectively use matchlock ashigaru in field battles? Just using bows seems so much better most of the time.

>>163822763
>flanking as the dwarfs
>using thunders over quarrelers

hello easy difficulty player

I am the wild rover!

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>>163822763
I can't recruit thunderers yet. I've literally just been fighting terrible, blood-drenching, desperate, widow making battles one after the other. Skarsnik was like a series of 3 battles, each one being even more bloody than the last. But I finally defeated his army. Now I have to go back home and be greeted by the stack of rebels and gits that have besieged my main settlement in Izor.

I'm honestly just contemplating making a run straight for Eight Peaks. This is like the 4th time the Gits have sent a stack down here to fuck with me. All they are doing is contributing to my grudges.

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>3 10 stacks of Chaos warriors show up out of nowhere on boats in a defenseless section of my empire.

>>163823102

>nvm i built walls

>>163820729
How is legendary difficulty?

>>163822545
Would you really prefer Warhammer went heavier in city management features? I mean it is Warhammer, seems feature heavy in the right areas. Faction play styles, heroes/LLs, quests etc.

>>163823102
Recruit 2 stacks of Swordsmen there and autoresolve.

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>>163822429
>>163823057
Get fucked hole-dwelling shit eater, you deserve everything that's coming for you!

Release of the first expansion's going to be the greatest day of my life, DAWI GENOCIDE FUCKING WHEN?? BURN THE BOOK OF FUDGES!

>>163823160
The AI gets to cheat even more and the player is handicapped during battles with lowered unit stats.
Also Public Order is a real pain.

>>163823237
Best Elves are already in-game tho...

>>163823237

>DAWI GENOCIDE
>BURN THE BOOK OF FUDGES!
>not keeping them around to fuck with them in creative ways

My first Elf campaign will be entirely about making sure every grudge book is as full as possible.

>>163823175
Not him but I think you're absolutely right.
It's WARhammer, not Cityhammer or Empirehammer.
The main focus of the game is the battles and Legendary Lords and that's absolutely fine.
In the next historical title a more complex city management has to return though!

>>163823237
Who shit in your forest?

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>>163823292
>>163823237

>being this buttblasted still

Come on now

>>163822545
The world map aspect of TW was always mediocre at best and I personally don't care about it. They focused on battle gameplay and that's good.

>>163823348
They do. It's more """natural"""

Take your poo to the loo turd elves

>>163823237
Which is the best High Elf melee infantry?

Swordmasters, White Lions, or Phoenix Guard?

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>>163823291
>Hippie Elves
>best
Yeah, best at being absolutely useless.
High Elves are what kept the Warhammer world from collapsing until Mannlet von Worstein fucked it all up

>>163823414

Phoenix Guard

>>163823375
>The Pointlessly Tall
kek

>>163823375
>taking a bow instead of a shield
>leader of a civilized nation using ranged weapons at all

I love high elves but Caledor II was a faggot.

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>>163823423
Big breasted HE heroes when?

>>163822871

Open small gaps between your main infantry line so that your matchlock can fire through the gaps while your infantry holds the enemy

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>>163823542
Soon I hope!

What are the fastest ships in FOTS, apart from gunboats?

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>not wanting meme elves

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>>163823640
dank elves are best elves

Is it just me or does the fire by rank thing for the tercos fire slower than normal? is there a specific situation to use it for or just leave it on all the time?

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>>163823617
they should release these models for modern usage

>>163823175
>>163823387
I feel like CA went too far with the give and take.
There was no good reason for them to take out so much. Im too tired to go through the list of things TW games had in past and present but these small details would be so easy to implement and kept automated for people who dont like dealing with em.

Like that guy who is modding in roads, thats a small little thing that would make the civilized factions a tad more interesting.

And id forgive them if they focused on the battle side of things yet it doesnt pan out as fun as it looks on paper. Gave us all these cool units, let them fight out a little instead of blowing through combat like theres too much else to do.

Magic barely even figures despite them making a big deal out of it.

So if you can't flank as the dwarves what tactics can you actually use

Are the european cannons worth bringing in shogun 2, or are they useless outside of sieges?

>>163824031

Big anvil unit + Quarrellers/Siege?

>>163824031
>can't flank as the dwarves
why?

>>163824137
ah forget it, read >can't flank the dwarfs

>>163822934
>thunderers against heavy armor
>quarrelers against light armor
They both have their place.
I've also turned off projectile trails, so I prefer to see the puffs of smoke from thunderers and cannons than the shitty fireworks display that happens every time the bolts rain down.

>tfw when looking down your lines to see the timed barrages being followed by plumes of smoke
I will drag your ancient Dwarf ass into the future, kicking and screaming.

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POST A E S T H E T I C

>>163824376

>posting Britshit

I can't stop vomiting

Someone post that sexy L'Ocean

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>>163824376

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>>163824407
It's a Kaiyo Maru class though

If I get the King and the Warlord DLC can I get bolt throwers and rangers for the vanilla dwarf faction as well?

>>163824716
yes

>>163824716
yeah

>>163824784
>>163824787
Sweet thanks for the info.

Feel like the only DLC not worth it is the Beastmen and Wood Elf ones.

That is a shitload of money just for two factions.

>>163812834
>giving those zoro fucks a single solidus
disgusting

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>>163824821
>That is a shitload of money just for two factions.
sadly but I'm still playing a Beastmen campaign with every new patch, they're just so damn cool to look at, especially Minotaurs and the Gorebull raping absolutely everything!

>>163823414
Swordmasters are the best concept.

>>163823160
More realistic.
If your ego is fragile, I would pass.
>constant strife unless you manage your development flawlessly
>every nearby enemy has a hardon for you and will still attack you even when they're guaranteed to lose
>Vampires are everlasting cunts that you will destroy thricely before realizing you need to hunt every one of those pale bastards down to stop them from raising a new army within your territory every turn.
>Greenskins are more aggressive and never sleep but never win, either. (unless you suck at grand strategy and let them stack up three armies inside your borders)
>Humans are generally useless allies, always dying, unless you babysit them or they get lucky.
>Chaos is an actual challenge if you don't preemptively strike them as they're advancing (separately, they tend to converge around cities and choke points after the doomstacks get up and running)
>>163823290
>The AI gets to cheat even more and the player is handicapped during battles with lowered unit stats.
I haven't noticed this, but I only play easy and legendary, and I find that easy is faceroll difficulty.

I've personally never won a legendary game, but I usually get bored of the tedium in the endgame and start a new game before I've finished the last.
I may not be the best person to ask because of this.

>>163825054
I was playing the base game cause I got it on sale and the beastmen were sadly a weak foe to me everytime I sent a throng to intercept them.

Hopefully for the spring or summer sale the DLCs will go in price.

This game is going to have a lot of replay ability I feel.

>>163824821
I've always played elves in any single game that had them, so it's well worth it for me

>>163823057
Quarrelers are better (in general) against Greenskins, anyway
You can recruit basic sword and board Quarrelers right away.
They make somewhat decent melee combatants and en masse, can take zero (or very few) losses somewhat easily in legendary battles against greenies.
I use dedicated dwarf melee units for attacking enemy cities and ranged for defending cities and territory.

Dwarf old fag hard mode.

>Can only use Grudgethrowers, Quarrelers, Bolt Throwers Rangers and max one Cannon as missile units.

>All Melee need to be Longbeards, Hammerers and Slayers.

Fuck I would kill for a white dwarf key.

Who are the best Youtubers for; faction overviews, faction MP balance & campaigns/campaign guides? (Warhammer)

I enjoy HOC but surely there's others that know their shit?

>>163822934
>not flanking simply because it takes longer than every other faction
>implying that the only other option, not flanking, is any faster
>using dedicated melee units at all
100 percent ranged-lyfe, senpai
pew pew

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GRUDGED

>>163825758
Watching calvary run into my army cause I made a pincushion box formation of guns is hilarious.

>>163825610
would you also suck dick?

>>163825935
I mean.

I could just go get a code on ebay.

So prob not.

Anyone got a good music playlist for playing Dorfs and Empire?

>>163825147
The Beastmen AI kind of sucks dicks at not dying. They're fun to play (best horde faction so far if you ask me) but honestly you're not missing out of too much right now. They still have a few units missing too but they seem to be slowing adding them in.

>>163826075

Beastmen usually rape the AI in my campaigns. They fuck over Tilea/Estalia while Welfs/tree hitler fuck Bretonnia.

By the time I get around to scouting Bretonnia, it's a fucking wasteland.

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Whats this?

>>163826189

[HIDDEN]

>>163825987
The White Dwarf is gonna be added to the game for free if you don't get a code. You are literally retarded if you buy a code.

>>163813774
It's easy to make money. Careful when buying units, some of them don't have "Resist Shock" like most line infantry and youmight discover that in the first battle. Doesn't really make sense to me that named units don't have that, but oh well, the mod is pretty great anyway. Also, don't forget the trade nodes, very important.

>>163826172
In all of mine so far they've been taken out soon after showing up. I don't think I've seen a full Beastmen stack (outside of my own when playing as them) before.

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>>163826189

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>>163826302
Yeah I know.

BUT I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!

>>163826441
Suck dick for a code.

In Attila do the Huns just spawn in armies out of the fog of war?

>>163825867
Formations only work fo me about half the time.
Sometimes the entire unit AI will decide not to fire if one or two members within the unit are obstructed.
Sometimes the AI will illogically decide to charge my lines in the middle or just offset from the middle, despite it being the strongest part of my line.
Other times I set up stuff like a hook formation and watch cavalry skirt my lines under fire trying desperately to flank only to ultimately fail. The formation works perfectly in that case.
>tfw you treat the fantasy strategy game like a civil war strategy game
Magic is for pussies who didn't do their homework.

>Reforge the dwarven realms driving the greenskins to extinction and reclaiming the lost holds.

>Barak Varr declares war on me.

For what purpose?

This one is going in the book.

Playing against Dwarfs as Green skins is suffering.

>>163827182
Play as Skarsnik. Fighting Dawi becomes 100 times easier once Skarsnik is level 4.

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realm divide is going to fuck me over

>>163803258
>/twg/ wants a dlc for a bunch of useless visuals more than an overhauled faction

>>163823621
Kasuga.

Yes, its faster than Kanko/Kanrin/Kaiten with more cannons to boot.

>>163828163
Always does. Shitty mechanic tb/h

Are there any good ways of applying better anti aliasing for shogun 2?
8x MSAA looks like shit, downsampling from 4k obviously looks great (>>163824376) but shit fps and tiny as fuck ui when downsampling with DSR

>>163827297
how come

>>163828772
Because poison attacks and also improving all gobbo units, meaning you'll be able to field multiple stacks of killer gobbos thanks to 40% reduction in upkeep.

just going to end the campaign here, as it looks like its going to be just like the end of the one i just did thanks to this ridiculous realm divide bs. Not worth slogging through a billion autoresolves and micromanaging a billion little fleets to stop the ai from being a nuisance

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Rate my faction leader, /twg/. Also excuse the weird borders, I've been dealing with Hunnic bullshit for about 10 years straight. He has

>Fear III
>Builder
>Loyal
>Respectful
>Byword for Cruelty
>Arrogant

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>>163828895
forgot pic ofc

Do you guys go for a 2nd lord/army straight up in your WH campaigns?

>>163829041
>straight up
But why. I only raise a second army once my main one can't be fighting on all fronts at once.

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>>163828918
>hetero

pfft

>>163829085
Subtle.

>>163828918
he has a cuck hat

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Can someone please explain this one to me?
>Playing Greenskins
>Get a quest to occupy X number of settlements to get Gitsnik
>Occupy X number of settlements
>Get another part to the quest about defeating X number of armies
>On Grimgor's skilltree it has Gitsnik checked like he already has it even though I apparently didn't finish the quest
?

>>163829085
Proud is a synonym for gay in english? Or is it an expression?

>>163829174
you get it after getting multiple other traits that imply the character is gay, it means that he is gay and proud of it/publicly shows it

>>163829170
It does that for items that you unlock a quest chain for, but you don't have the item nor the abilities associated with the item. Actually earning those items requires several stupid quests and then a quest battle to actually get the item.

So you don't have the item yet, all you did was unlock the quest chain to get the item. Enjoy more shit quests. I would recommend the instant quest battles mod so you don't got to deal with that shit ever again.

Man the dorfs are boring.
>No cavalry
>No speed
>Infantry are all tanks and are pretty much the bread and butter to the faction
>Nothing is specialized, it just feels like everything is meant to do one thing and is very good at it