/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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Xth for best husbando

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PC FC at CotD, pre deacons

>>163779947

>>163797695
I loved this boss, fought him today. Very fair, but very difficult at the same time. I didn't like that his combos were so long, but that's a general problem with the game.

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post scared hosts

How2Pyro with Onyx Blade?

Is there like a foolproof guide?

I'm literally retarded when it comes to not just smashing things to a pulp, and I have no fucking idea what spells or items to use like rings.

Any help would be appreciated

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>>163797412
>what is Executioner Chariot

Also can someone post the Dark Souls 3 world map?

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I did nothing this fight

dsbabbs?

PLEASE
HELP ME

>>163797039
good luck with the rest of the game
also jumping attacks are pretty shit in PvE

>>163798262
Platform?

>>163798346
thanks so much!

>>163798262

HNNNNNNNRGGGGh

>ds3
>can only hold 99 arrows at a time
why

>>163798262
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHH
>>163798496
Demon's Souls, anon.

>>163798620
anytime

>>163798703
>passively runs away constantly sometimes firing a single crossbow shot

>>163798703
They took cues from BB's system where consumables have tighter limits.

And I think that's a good idea, makes resource management matter more. Plus you can still use different types of arrows.

>>163797912
Parting flame, black serpent is all you want
Use swamp, witch and sage rings

hit people with groovy sword, roll catch with black flame, set up wombo combos with serpent

>>163798098
>Executioner Chariot
>fighting twin headed horses
It ain't cavalry, dumb fuck. I want to fight a knight on a horse. Closest we ever got to horseback fighting boss was Nameless and even then his first stage is bad compared to the second one.

How bad is faith in SOFTS?

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Anyone savvy with some sort of editing tool want to make a better version of this?

I'd be glad to provide picture references.

>>163799243
It's workable, but only just barely.

I think the problem was that they reduced your casts way too much. The damage is shit but could have been offset with a billion casts.

Which is a better system for lightning magic than sorcery imo. Sorc should be the big damage big cost school of magic with pyro somewhere in between

>>163799245
I might not have time to do it but I will say the person who is going to should just add a picture of the place and directions from the closest bonfire or name some landmarks.

>>163799502
Have you picked up the DLC?
it's on sale right now if you haven't yet

>>163799502
are you looking for bbg?

kirkhammer is good fun imo. nice, comfy moveset with big damajjj at low levels and can cheese small-to-medium sized bosses with extraordinary ease due to that stagger potential.

>no patches
>no DLC announcement

It's past Christmas. They've fucked up and are letting the game die, Scott is right

>>163799245
here:

http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/sublime-bone-dust
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/estus-flask-shard

done.

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>guy deleted his post
Lmoa why?
I beat Gascoigne on the 3rd or 4th try I think?
First time I just stumbled into his bossroom not knowing he was a boss, then just walking around the room trying to use the bold hunter's mark so I wouldn't lose my souls. I got away from him though.

Then I died to his axe due to backing into a corner and not having enough room to dodge.
Then I died twice to his furry form.
Then I kited him around the tombstones, Hunter Axe'd him with the tricked version over the tombstones, parried and visceral'd his furry form and PREY SLAUGHTERED.

Overall I'm feeling a sense of accomplishment that is so precious in Soulsborne.

>>163800347
>scott is right

Out of /dsg/ with you

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>>163799438
I personally think DS2 had the best magic system and all four classes were viable as fuck.
>faith builds specialized in support/heal spells and AoE attacks but lacks in reliable projectiles
>sorcery had the quickest, simple projectile attacks making them good harassment potential. Fluid attacks that can control the field and enemy's movement by mixing spell spam. A great all-rounder with weak crowd control and almost no versatility other than offensive attacks
>pyromancy being the all-situational strong at unconventional versatility. Their spells are effective outliers (quickest nukes, landmine spell, fire whip defense, mists and big, immobile knockdown AoE) but weakest damage of the schools.
>hexes have the strongest damage, effective debuffs and houses a couple of good buffs as well. But had the highest stat investment (slots, souls and fth+int) plus none of the spells compliment each other as well as the other schools.
If it was mixed with DS3's weapon art system without SM crippling the gameplay, it would have been the best magic system in the franchise.

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>>163799245
>fextralife

Whats the #1 weapon from the past two Dark Souls games that you want to return in the last DLC for 3?

>>163800570
>weapon
That's a tough one. Bone fist?

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>>163800570
Loyce greatsword

>>163800570
Motherfucking Blue Flame. Give it the Lothric Knight sword moveset and have the weapon art be casting a spell. It would be the GOAT straight sword.

>>163800570
>DaS1
>Gargoygle Tail
>DaS2
>Fume Sword

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>>163800570
Silver Knight Straight Sword.

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>yfw second dlc is another snow/ice location

>>163800704
Fuck yes. I wanna throw out hadoukens in my dark souls game again.

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>tfw doing your job to kill a intruder and his sexfriend while your coworker does nothing

>>163800570

Aged smelter sword

Dlc weapon so never fucking ever

What dark souls 3 wep is the most similar to the balder side sword?

>>163800837
Aw yeah well finally be able to use that sweet lightning weapon art that the sliver knights use. I honestly have a really good feeling we are in fact gonna get this in the dlc. It seems really obvious and easy for them to implement.

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>>163800482
>but weakest damage of the schools
Pyromancy was crazy fucking strong, the problem was fire resistance and how easy it was to stack it / how common it was.
>SM crippling the gameplay
What? You'd never get to go maximum wizard with 99 ATT 99 INT 99 FAI in DaS3 and still play with people. SM was a huge reason magic was good in DaS2.
You would never see any wizards with soul level matchmaking in DaS2, nor ultra heavy tanks, nor high stat req powerstances, etc, just boring ass 150 flynn cockbags.
Yes, you couldn't stay at low SM when you're climaxing all over people, but that was the price of power.

>>163800976
Nice parry spamming bro.

>>163801059

wtf i love soul memory now?

What's your build, Nana? 66 STR?

>>163801059
How does SM enebale casters more?

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Who's your favorite NPC summon for Abyss Watchers? I usually like to RP Sirris as my loyal squire/waifu because I'm a dork. Pale Shade is usually meh for me, and never actually taken Blackhand Gotthard in.

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>>163801256

>>163801059
>>163801189
>Thinking SM let you fight at insane levels

Idiots. If you hit 300SL, you're going to be fighting against max level characters.

SM lets you fight +/- 10% your SL, with the lower bound extending lower if the player lost tons of souls or famed a bunch of items without agape ring.

>>163801293
SL doesn't limit them, only SM which means you can go crazy on your stats if you allocate souls right

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>>163801349

>120

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>>163801457

Please no bully. I made her for /dsg/.

>>163801059
>What? You'd never get to go maximum wizard with 99 ATT 99 INT 99 FAI in DaS3 and still play with people
That never stopped anyone from cherry picking spells from each school and majority of haveljesters I fought used primarily hexes, css and heals with maybe one or two aoe like heavenly thunder or scraps
>SM was a huge reason magic was good in DaS2.
Okay you're right on that one. But spellsword was one of the better builds and even quality could still match up to it. I don't think STR/DEX builds were ever a thing but I did end up making a DEX build and even then it had a good sum of STR in there. No SL limit made a lot of people make similar builds to the point where they all function the same way, which was a quick high damage weapon, nuke spell, heal and high def.

>>163801592
>has overleveled character
>doesn't bring to FCs

Cute

>host and his butt buddy literally made me go flying off a ledge with Millwood fagbow spam

WHo green lit this piece of shit?

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>>163801179

>>163801592
>Ignorant Slave
That's great.

>>163801457
>>120
you got a better meme level then?

>>163801715
Ahahaha I love the Millwood Bestbow

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>>163800906
Snow areas are comfy but I hope it's not another rehash.

One thing that I'm betting on now is that it has a new version of those Giant Crabs again.

>>163801592
Psst... Hey kid... Bring your max SL to a FC and make people mad...

>>163800906

>yfw it's Carthus of the Sands and you get curved swords up the ass

I have no face

>>163801387
>SL doesn't limit them, only SM which means you can go crazy on your stats if you allocate souls right

Not really. Once you hit SL 100 or so leveling up costs more than pretty much every other better upgrade. And equipment upgrades > level for almost everything in DS2.

So yeah, a SL 150 character that didn't invest in upgrades, spells, or equipment and fight a SL100 character that did. You're going to lose every time.

Magic was powerful in DS2 only because elemental reduction was hard to stack until you got to the DLC. It always did ~20-30% more damage than it should have done in early game, at the cost of doing 20-30% less in late game.

>>163801763
802

>>163801819
>Abyss crabs
>Fire crabs
>Deep crabs
>Angel crabs

>>163801592
Why do DS3 hollows just look like bad burn victims

man FC sure is fun with this one faggot using magic

where the hell do i go to raise the bridge patches lowered
i swear to god i raised it before

how the fuck am i getting invaded post-pontiff at 125 +6?

>>163802271
Havel please go

>>163802271

Carlyle please.

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>>163801349
>muscle waifu

>>163802298
You raised another bridge, to raise that one you need to be on the otherside. You get there traversing through the beams on the ceiling, which you get to from the elevator in the second shortcut.

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Nth for the Supreme Goddess

>>163802298
The switch you need to get to is right next to him but you can only get there by going to the ceiling and jumping down. The other switches you see on groundlevel do absolutely fucking nothing.

I BEAT THE ABYSS WATCHER

>>163802845
>Liking Sulyvahn's personal cum dumpster
What a fucking cuck.

>>163802845
Would have been much better without that spinning attack that hit a million times. Besides that it felt like a way easier Sulyvahn.

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>>163800906

is irithyll even considered a snow level?

>>163803109

Yea. You can beat her at any level by just keeping distance until she does that jump area pulse attack that gives you an easy opening

Anything else can be easy death unless you got the timings down perfectly

>>163803226

Gordon why did you run away and Estus after that fight started?

Why is Aldrich such a little bitch? The fight would be way easier, but it's filler with shit like the arrow shower, the fire, the magic flies, that make it very tedious and easy to die.

I hate what they did to Anor Londo in 3, it might as well not have been in the game if they were just going to shit on it.

>>163803112
Don't talk shit about my townfu

>>163803606
>Why is Aldrich such a little bitch? The fight would be way easier, but it's filled with attacks that hit me. That makes it very tedious and easy to die.

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FC is over, thank you all for coming.

>>163803606

I just blue bug up for that magic defense and use heavy held attacks on her butt with an UGS. I see what you mean about the arrow attacks but I just use the pillars to stop/slow them down.

>>163800976
is "cancer" referring to those parry whiffs?

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>>163803779

Thanks Host! Apparently the katana stab can't damage other players.

>>163803740
That's not the problem. It's pretty much impossible not to take damage, no matter how good you are at dodging. And once you think you are confortable escaping his ranged attacks, he does his melee attacks that get covered by the walls.

It's not that it's unfair, it's designed in a way that makes the fight a chore and you need to fight with a very different playstyle, one which I find tedious and awful.

>>163803710
It's garbage, like it's boss.

>>163803935
It can, I've done it before, guess it doesn't work when I die though.

>>163803782
>her
>neither Aldrich or Gwyndolin are girls
hmm

>>163803956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53BRZETlA-U

reinstalled OS. is is possible to download a save file or u get banned?

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>>163804036
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY

>>163804225
for Dark souls 3* btw

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>>163804265
does this trigger you?

>>163804225
Downloading a save won't get you banned, but if the save contain items which were cheated in there's a possiblity of ban

>>163804136
this guy's got some hard reads

Anything of major importance to do before killing Abyss Watchers regarding quests? I actually haven't really gone to the Cathedral yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm overleveled from *really* thoroughly exploring all the swamp and farming Darkwraiths + the BK for a while for their gear.

>>163804404

Yoel dies when you enter Catacombs of Carthus so make sure to get his sigils if you want them.

>>163804265
Pontiff is overrated garbage. Just a sped-up gwyn+darklurker. You can parry him to death, roll through his r1 spam and r1 spam back. His lore is literally mary sue bullshit written by a 14 year old.

>>163804481
fuc u btch

>>163804536
Give me your information and I'll fly over there and make you cannibalize your family.

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I accidentally killed the woman in that room in the Shaded Woods.

Did she give you anything useful?

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>pontiff

lol

>>163804625
That was a blacksmith for boss weapons you fucking retard.

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>>163804481
>>163804636
DELETE THIS

>>163804625

Right down the road!

>>163804680
FUCK!

How she ever respawn??
she got 1 shot by those toad things wasnt my fault

>>163804636
>pontiff adds you on steam/xbl/ps4 after this to call you a cheap fucking bitch noob

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>>163804703

>>163804740
right
down
the
r

Is Dark Souls II really that bad? Should I skip it and go straight to III?

So now that the dust has settled, we can all agree ancient dragon was a decent endurance fight right?

Thanks for the fights Carlyle, I'm done for now.

>>163804625
I did the same lol

>>163804747
After some time a gravestone appears and you can summon the NPC for some amount of souls. But she needs to move locations to the next area to sell the weapons so you're screwed anyways. That's the blacksmith that gives the most boss weapons by the way, including DLC weapons.

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For simple and blessed infusions, does upgrading it increase the amount of hp/fp healed per second, if it does is it worth going +10 on a blessed or simple shield in my off hand?

>>163804747
It's ng+ for you fuccboi

>>163804867
no? ds2:sotfs is a great game. where are you reading it's shit
the dlc areas are best everything in all of dark souls

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>>163804349
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>163804458

He died a while ago, now Yuria is over where he was, trying to get me to kill the Sorcerery merchant. I'm kinda worried she's gonna turn out to be a Yurt/Mephistopheles/Lautrec and off him and/or others while I'm gone. :^/

nothing like assassinating the skelepope

>>163804956
It's little below effective than sun princess but yes. 10+ is the way to go if not 9+ if you're skimpy on slabs.

>>163804481
>>163804636
Ill rekt u both lil bitchs

>>163805060

Spoilers but she won't, she does nothing to the other NPCs at Firelink. Outside though...

Also you can wait until the end of the game to 'kill' Orbeck for her without killing him if you want by buying all his spells from the scrolls you get.

>>163804747
Youre completely fucked until new game plus. Sorry. Dont worry, you can still beat the game just fine with most any weapon.

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I picked up scholar and DSIII on steam on the winter sale

played both through on ps4 already

starting a qt pyro waifu run in sotfs, what weapons/gear should I go for?

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>>163805125
I will fucking rape you nigger

>>163805218

Great Club.

>>163804481
>overrated garbage
the word overrated is overrated garbade

>>163804867

Ha ha! Time for cliches! It's a pretty good game if you don't think of it as a direct sequel to DaS, but as its own thing. The DLCs are pretty great, in particular.

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Is it possible to complete demon's souls without L2 button ?

>>163805305
Yes

>>163804636

>Get hit by Pontiff
>fly ten meters away, unable to roll for several seconds laying down

>Parry with a tiny bitch shield or glove, it fucking knocks Pontiff over like a meteor hit his skull and he completely loses it for seconds

Why is it possible to even parry big bosses anyway

>>163805305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UQtBMKCipk&t=78s

>>163805305
what does L2 even do in demon's souls?

never played it

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>>163805247
No you won't

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>>163805494
Challenge accepted.

>>163805431
Making Pontiff parriable was a mistake

>>163805456
Same as Dark Souls, parrying. Demon's Souls is pretty much Dark Souls in the gameplay part, it changes very little mechanically too.

>>163805452

Haha, sweet jesus.

Also, I'd completely forgotten about Leechmonger and Dirty Colossus.

I've played all dark souls games and read all items and such and I still don't understand what the fuck is actually going on, why everything is dead as shit, what the pygmy shit was in ds1, when the fuck is ds2 even, why entire locations and areas shifted in ds3 and many more things, is there any good video to watch that might also explain timelines with years or whatever

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Anyone here on PS4 who has been through a million NG+++++++++++ playthroughs and has a lot of unneeded titanite scales? I want to upgrade muh FGS before fucking end game

>yfw dlc2 adds paired repeating crossbow with innate mundane scaling

>>163804625
Yeah, you lost access to a lot of boss weapons for the rest of the game. Normally you can return to killed merchants for a soul fee after several hours, but not if you kill them before they start offering things for sale. Since Ornifex requires saving and then meeting somewhere else, you can't do that.

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>>163805576
Bring it on.

>>163804867
Dark souls 2 is better than Dark Souls 1 and 3 in many ways. It's worse in many ways too.

But it is, above all else, a great game. It's not shit, people just circlejerk hating it because it's different and had some launch problems. SOTFS is vastly improved.

Just remember as you play it that most of the best game content is in Ng+, DLC, or multiplayer.

>>163806181
What's Pontiff's stand named?

>>163805218
Flame Swathe and lingering flame.

Grab the firedrake stone from the flame salamander pit in Forest of Fallen Giants so you can get a fire weapon early on.

>>163806327
「DARK SIDE OF THE MOON」

>>163806327
pontiff
2

>>163806327
Ffitnop

>>163806361
Don't you mean
「DARK SIDE OF THE MOON」
gotta include those fullwidth characters

>>163805886
Welcome to From Software.

There's no confirmed information in most of the game, no dates, nothing like that. That's part of what makes the games unique, everything is just lore and conflicting / unreliable information. You're supposed to make up your own mind and create your own theories about what happened, rather than have it spoon fed to you by the game.

>>163806450
haha owned get filtered
no fun allowed

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>>163806181

>get invaded
>all they do is run away and chug anytime they get hit
>cant punish it because you cant backstab while someone is healing anymore
letting invaders use estus fucking kills pvp for me

>>163806361
「DARK SOUL OF THE MOON」

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>>163806450
>>163806468
Shit I'm an idiot

>>163806514

>Get invaded
>Have 15 Estus on deck
>As well as bleed katana and chaos pyromancies

Chug a lugg lugg
Time to fugg

>>163806514
Blame DaS2 for allowing you to walk amd estus

>>163806692
>Blame DaS2 for allowing you to walk amd estus
You can only move a small amount before you stop in your tracks to take a swig. Even then, estus HP regen was slow.

>>163806047
you can't drop upgrade materials

>>163806458
ok rate this what i think

untended graves is the real present, an accident or failure

so when gundyr sees you enter it, he instantly assaults you as he sees you are the ashen one, that has committed betrayal and let the world be consumed by darkness which it shouldn't have been, as gundyr was supposed to save it. so gundyr is sad and depressed and suddenly you, the player that stole his role, enters and he gets fucking pissed.

everything else exists through magic and convoluted time.

>>163806780
Still a significant advantage. You should never be allowed to move an inch when using the game's main healing item. Even in BB it was a casualised advantage

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>>163806512

>>163806913
You can parry healing in BB.

>>163806925
>dying to sir spam-a-lot
No wonder you cucks lose in almost every war.

>>163807005
Clever use of the enviromnent allows you to heal and walk behind something.

>>163806908
Oh das bullshit. Guess I'm stuck at +2 until Lothric Castle then

>>163807024
I did the mistake of trying to finish him quickly


Let me guess though, amerifat ?

>>163806240
It's better in some ways, but those aspects make it not feel like Dark Souls. And in the end that makes it awkward and leaves a bad taste.

Should I pick up Dark Souls III right now or wait for a daily deal?

Just bought an RX 470 graphics card to upgrade from my old 6870

>>163807382
right now
last sale dicked over the people who didn't wait, and now is the time.

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>>163807382
just buy it now imo

i don't know why but even though this game is shit i still can't stop playing it

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>>163807138
>I did the mistake of trying to finish him quickly
>making the same mistake since fives games
You deserve it.
>Let me guess though, amerifat ?
Close.
pontiff sucks massive smough balls. he was also a kissless virgin who austically made Dancer only dance for him and he couldn't even finish off a halfbreed and dying to a ashen one who came from the ground what a fucking loser

>>163806119
should I just pop my boss shard and use the souls to level up then?

>>163806514
>>163806664

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsNWlM3fWmI

This is all I'm ever gonna hear in my head from now on. Fuck you.

>>163807138
OBSESSED

i want dancer to crush and kill me with her huge ass

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Rate my black templar?

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>>163807626
>made Dancer only dance for him

>>163805706
How the fuck would it be possible for Demons Souls to change any of the gameplay from Dark souls when Demons was created first? Did Miyazaki have a time machine?

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Anyone wanna play DS1?

>>163807532
>>163807582
Is there a daily deal? It's going for $~55 now for Game + pass

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>>163807912
>dancing =/=sexual intercourse
>damage control

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>get summoned for jolly cooperation in drangleic castle
>summoner is nowhere in sight
>dung pie placed near a cliff on the way to the throne of want
>"this has to be a troll"
>cant find the summoner, die to poison from the mask trap room
>get summoned along with another guy by the same person
>look around, summoner is indeed sneaking around with chameleon
>a white phantom is just following them around
>this goes on for a while, I hit the phantom for the hell of it
>its an invader in disguise

>>163807828
>investing into fth with no spells

Either move those points into dex/str for a regular/crystal zwei or get more end/vit and use a chaos/lightning one

>>163808186
invading in the castle is guarantee gank or troll

>>163808258
I'm here to conquer PvEJerusalem

>>163808378
Those are better for PvE too.
The changes I'm suggesting only give you better damage/survivability and no big gameplay changes.

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>>163808362
>tfw killing endless trolls in the castle with my poison build

Does namecrash still exist in DaS2?

>>163808475
Bosses are weak to Occult

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Why didn't anyone tell me how much better Aldritch invasions were than any other kind?

Knight's or Arbalest for 60 faifag?

>>163808492
this is why i have moss in my quickslot. poison builds are rare but holy shit are they annoying
>get poisoned
>opponent just runs away till i die

not as bad as corrosive mist spam though

>>163797412
Not going to lie a hybrid between Dark Souls and Mount and Blade would give me the biggest boner.

>>163808648
Because youre fighting for what you believe in, alongside friends

>>163808834
One of my "friends"killed me when I'd almost killed the trespasser.

Still more fun than Rosaria's Fingers though.

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>>163808764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_rxH8uN0vQ

>>163808894
I meant in terms of atmosphere too. Wanna fight with a bunch of insane undead over a dying fucked up world. Periodically train undead dragons to enemy strongholds, etc.

>>163808586
Only 2.5 bosses, two of which you'd need to get the ember and go all the way back to andre from AL just to upgrade.
Not to mention coming by white chunks.
Meanwhile you can max a lightning one by AL or get a +5 fire early one easily.

Nearly every enemy is weak to lightning in 1, to the point I don't see your build doing better damage to anyone but Ornstein

>>163808881
Deepbros cant hurt one another
Other invaders should be treated with caution

Why don't you like Dark Souls 2, /dsg/?

>>163809035
Having done an occult server playthrough, I can assure you occult is great for pvp and pve

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>>163808881
>when you have a untrue ring on for waifu fashion as a red and all of your backup keeps trying to kill you

>>163809048
Yet it happened. Glitch?

>>163809073
because i love it

>>163809147
you can hurt each other, it happens constantly
>>163809048
is mistaken

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>>163809073
But I do like it

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>tfw actually managed to land a hit with the dark hand in PVP
I was as surprised as the other guy was.

>>163809073
Because I love Dark Souls 2.

>>163809073
Only thing I don't like about it is how they let you waste lock stones on acid puddles by the rats

>>163809446
that's supposed to help with the host for the covenant

>>163809226
>>163809251
>>163809269
Hold the fuck up. Does /dsg/ actually LIKE DS2 now? When did that happen?

Is DS3 bad guys?

>>163809115
The returns are minimal.
There is no reason to go fth if you'll use no spells, that's just gimping yourself. Even at base stats, carrying two-three copies, two with the non scaling infusions, one normal to buff with SLB/DMB when needed would be ideal

At least use Grant to justify the investment.

>>163806348
Thanks buddy

Any other Fire tips from anybody

>>163809738
>Hold the fuck up. Does /dsg/ actually LIKE DS2 now? When did that happen?
As time has gone by the memes are dying and DS2 fans are becoming accepted.

>Is DS3 bad guys?
No, but the new game smell is wearing off.

>>163809820
fire clutch and penal handcuffs improve pyro damage

GCFB is better than forbidden sun if you get far enough for them

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>>163809798
Forgot pic

>>163809738
It is an incredibly good game when you go into it not expecting it to carry the torch of continuing the story.
Also, DS3 coming out makes us miss all the neat things 2 added that didn't make it into 3

>>163810094
Ds3 feels a little unresponsive to me compared to 2, 2 was so mechanically tight. In many ways dark souls 2 is excellent, I thi k the biggest issues with the game are thematically feeling kind of plain and having the worst world design of the franchise. I wish I could play dark souls 1's map in the dark souls 2 engine, that would be the ultimate dark souls game to me.

why does pvp feel so shit in 3?

>>163810318
My biggest problem with 2 is actually the art direction. The way everything looks, kind of like play doh, fucks up the experience for me.

>>163810349
Because it's a reskinned Bloodborne, a game where PVP was a complete afterthought.

>>163810349
Weapon arts make it too easy to be a quick wipe.
A nicely planned hit can rip away most of someone's health

>>163810569
this, also the movement was very sluggish. rolling and jumping felt very strange

>>163807629
There is still a second boss weapon merchant, but they sell mostly spells, and just a few wepaons. I would save some of them for him, especially the first half of the game's bosses, which he trades mostly for.

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>>163810728
the weird rolling system is actually something I really liked.

All right

Killed Nito and Seath

Where do I go now?

>>163810728
I can see why someone wouldn't like it but I really enjoyed the slow tactical pace where every action was a big commitment.

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>>163811014
To waifutown.

>>163811160
Wait what? I thought New Londo?

>>163811223
then why did you ask

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>>163811223
NONSENSE, SEND LINK

DLC IS LEAK

REPEAT DLC IS LEAK. A NAMCO INTERN GOT AHOLD OF PARTIALLY TRANSLATED, INCOMPLETE PATCH NOTES AND LEAKED THEM ON LEDDIT

System updates for DLC "JOURNEY OF COURLAND TIME".

FEBRUARY 10

Adjusted Poise on Equipment.
Reverted adjustments to Attack of Hammers.
Reverted adjustments to Attack of Large Swords.
Some weapons have had Battle Skills removed and replaced.
Many Magical Causation improved.
Many Weapons have had Adjustments performed unto Refined Enchantment.
Many Weapons have had Adjustments performed unto Skilled Enchantment.
Many Weapons have had Adjustments performed unto Hollow Enchantment.
Many Enchantments may now be Powered-up.
Dexterity Player Status has been Adjusted.
Vitality Player Status has been Adjusted.
Attunement Player Status has been Adjusted.
Magical Power has been Changed.
Life Value has been adjusted.
Additional adjustments ?configured? for Ultra Greatsword.
Fixed issue where Battle Skill of Staff operated of Left Hand operated with Staff of Right Hand.
Many Weapons with Prayer ?climbing? have been improved.
Addressed other game balance issues and fixed other flaws.
Increased Carrying Capacity of Several Tools and Ammunition.
Increased Carrying Capacity of Several Magic.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5743gl/dark_souls_110_unfinished_notes/

PATCH NOTES FOR GAME

STUFF FOR WEAPONS CHANGED
STUFF FOR STATS CHANGED
CHANGED PREVIOUS CHANGES
CHANGED STUFF FOR WEAPONS
WEAPONS CHANGED
CHANGED GAME MECHANIC
CHANGES MADE TO CHANGES
INCREASED CHANGES

>>163811417
>Adjusted Poise on Equipment.
REAL POISE RETURNING

IT'S HAPPENING

>>163810349
>game prefers invaders getting matched with ganks
>hosts have a health and estus advantage
>hosts can freely switch to the way of the blue covenant once invaded
>the most common match up in the game is 3v1, meaning that you will most likely not be getting a friendly red until you kill a phantom
>killing a host's phantom is nearly impossible unless you try to one shot the guy, resulting in the hornet ring being a necessity when invading
>even if you take out a phantom, its very likely that the host will summon in another white/gold before a red can invade to assist you
>prevalence of the giant seed means that your one advantage, mobs, are now a liability
>even if you manage to lure a seeded mob to the host and his tank, the mob will still be aggro'd to you until it takes damage from the tank
>the game will actively try to spawn you in as far away from the host as possible
>weapons suffer from DS2 syndrome, in that there are basically only 2-3 move sets spread across entire weapon classes
>the vast amount of WA are useless
>you cannot be invaded in areas after you kill the area boss
>the vast majority of covenant rewards are ass

Gee, I wonder why

>>163811417
"Prayer climbing" is faith scaling

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>>163811564
I FUCKING LOVE CHANGING CHANGES

>spent entire abyss watchers fight backstab fishing
nice boss fight

>>163811649
>>weapons suffer from DS2 syndrome, in that there are basically only 2-3 move sets spread across entire weapon classes
And even less weapons and classes. Worst of both worlds. It's so obvious From didn't want to make this game.

DS1 newfag about to enter the infamous Blighttown for the first time. Anything in particular I should bring with me or just go in and have fun with that shit? Also what makes crystal weapons different from normal? Got this Domhnall nigger selling them by the door.

>>163811802
What really concerns me is how short and bad the first dlc pack was, dark souls 2 was made infinitely better through its multiple large and impressive dlc packs, so far it seems 3 will not have that opportunity. I really hope that the second dlc will be fantastic, but it seems unlikely.

>>163811997
Watch for little nigglets shooting darts, when you hit bottom, go right

Don't forget though, later in the game you might want to go left and investigate very carefully the insides of the tree there

Have fun

Crystal weapons suck fucking cock, can't be repaired at all and break in 2 hits

>>163811997
Should have rolled the master key and just skipped it.

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>>163811417
>https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5743gl/dark_souls_110_unfinished_notes/
>page not found

>>163811997
Crystal weapons have better damage but can't be repaired. If they break they're gone forever. Like Ethereal weapons in Diablo 2.

I'd advise going into Blighttown completely blind for the true experience.

>>163812117
Works for me. Try resetting your router.

>>163812117
Looks like the fake news ban is already in effect

>>163809820
Kings ring gives a 1% damage increase
Its there if you want it

Also, forbidden FUN

>>163810349

Invaders feel like prey instead of predators. Host will have a health and estus advantage to start with then pile on the inevitable gang of host summons and hey why not throw some seeds into the mix so you're PvEing as well.

Why doesn't Flynn's ring just add a small 2-3% AR boost if you're under 30% equip load?

>>163809235
No hes right, both territory covenants have no friendly fire with one another

>>163809931
Why 3 servers?

>>163805218
poison and toxic stack, poison + toxic mist are very good on bosses
ATT increases your casts, stack it
the pyromancies you get from Iron Keep DLC are very strong, you can grab a good one right at the start

carthus blood ring good or bad

>>163813909
yes

>>163813909
Fucking ayy lmao just put that on and put all the piece from the thorns armor

>>163813909
Can be good or bad, the extra iframes are nice but you lose some damage resistances

>>163814041
>some

>damage resistance in Dark Rolls 3
>meaning anything
pick one

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>>163806327

>>163814129
>I like to wear the Calamity Ring

>>163814183
I wish calamity ring had an extremely powerful bonus effect alongside it

like doubling the damage of charged R2s or something, or maybe plunging attacks

>>163814183
>wasting a ring slot

>>163814260
Have it remove all resistances of the player to anything period, then double all their damage.

Glass cannon funshack.

>>163814291
>he needs more than 2 rings

I've been in the Undead Settlement for an hour and haven't found another bonfire.


I'm stupid.

>>163814373
>Make Magic OPasFuck again

>>163814492
>not wanting to one-shot people with farron dart.

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>>163814072
Not that big of a deal if you never plan on getting hit

>>163814438
go to where everything explodes, drop down from there

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I finished Dark Souls 3 today and found it wayyyy harder than BB.

Why do people say Bloodborne is the hardest?

>>163814736
Half the players in Dark Souls 3 played the entire game with two phantoms.

>>163814817
This. Bosses don't scale up in power with phantoms enough

>>163814438
There's five total, lad.

Foot of the High Wall (Entrance)

Undead Settlement: First encountered. Is in line of sight of Foot of the High Wall entrance bonfire. Found just beyond the gate with all of the dog enemies attacking hollows.

Cliff Underside: Second Encountered. There'll be a gauntlet shortly after traversing a Horse Stable filled with a trio of hollows and several Thrall. Immediately after this secontion, you'll encounter some hollows throwing firebombs from an elevated position at a handful of explosive barrels. You want to roll off of the cliff to the right of this position, (facing towards the firebomb hollows) onto the ledge down below. Be careful; the area you land on is very narrow, and there is a patrolling hollow that follows it, and can knock you off. In addition, there is a very small area where the Firebomb hollows from earlier can actually hit you, also knocking you off.

Dilapidated Bridge: Generally, this is the second bonfire encountered by most newer players. When you first enter Undead Settlement and navigate the first building filled with hollows and a couple thralls, the area immediately proceeding it will be completely, utterly filled with enemies, namely a legion of hollows, and a Evangelist that will cast Dark Miracles that can cause a bleeding effect on you. Use long-ranged fire damage on the barrels the hollows are standing next to in order to thin out their numbers very effectively, then focus the Evangelist. Fighting this enemy is a very skill-orientated thing and it is likely you will die to it, but once you get the hang of her attack patterns, stepping beside her and getting in a backstab will usually put her out. It is also possible to stagger her if using a heavy enough weapon, such as the Claymore than can be acquired before the fire-breathing Drake in the previous level.

Pit of Hollow (Boss). Self explanatory. It will spawn after the boss of the level is defeated.

>>163814953
I think it is more an issue of stunlock being much easier to get with multiple players, you end up just wailing on the bosses instead of worying about spacing and stamina management.

>>163807828
>Divine zweihander

Just go normal and buff with sunlight blade. It will do much more damage.

>>163808894
>>163808987
Don't be fooled. For Honor is a ubisoft product, and their idea of 'customization' is a bunch of weird perks/upgrades on the same 3-4 character classes. You're not really picking your own weapons or play style any more than you do in CoD. This is probably the most disappointing part about that game.

>people are excited for For Honor
AYY

>>163809738
The memes are over and people realize DS2 has it's own merits. DS3 is still probably a better game, but it disappoints in many ways that DS2 shined, especially with PvP.

Why do weapons in DaS2 suck so much? Everything but the rapier and mace seem to do less damage, and generally take more stamina. Scaling sucks so much that the weapons with steeper requirements barely see any return on the stats to wield them. Early game upgrade materials are rare so why would you upgrade anything but those weapons and maybe a spear, or something with horizontal slashes?

What the fuck is the point of the basic spear existing when the winged spear exists and is superior in every way?

>>163810318
It's because DS2 was made by the armored core team, and tight gameplay was fucking necessary to even make that game work.

DS1/DS3 team made AC4/ACFA and those games are floaty and awkward as hell. But ACVD is laser precise tight and it feels great. That philosophy bleeds into DS2.

>>163808078

Why won't Baptists have sex standing up?

Because someone might see them and think they're dancing.

>>163815751

And for that matter strike is insanely powerful, but there are very few weapons with strike damage and most of the ones you can get early are ugly weapons like clubs. The only semi nice looking great hammer is the archdrake mace which by the time you get, the game is almost over.

Why does jumping in these games suck ass?

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>>163815357
What's the point of being a dark templar if you're using the power of light

>>163810838
DS3 could definitely use with an ADP stat. There's almost no roll punishment in DS3 and it turns into a lot of rollspam in PvP.

>>163811023
this is why DS2 pvp is the best in the series.

dude holy fuck. blue stoneplate ring cathedral knight outside of oceiros room is a fucking monster

How long does it take to get all the Ds2 achievements??

>>163815386
So THIS is what the Old Bell Helm was for.

Also, is that Vengarl using the bell on the upper right? It looks very similar to his armor.

>>163815112
Thanks a lot anon.

>>163808078
it's implied she was his stripper/sex slave

>>163815970
I just wish it was more active and the matchmaking wasn't retarded so I could play it forever.

>>163815831
Its not a platformer

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shitposting this healing:spellbuff chart for later

dont mind me

Can Irithyll straight sword go with fast attack strength build?

>>163816889

Irithyll is an alright quality straight sword, if you want a Straight Sword on a STR build go Heavy Broadsword or Dark Sword.

>>163815751
The secret to high damage in DS2 isn't scaling, it's buffs and multipliers. If you want to use a UGS, take advantage of trades and beef up your physical and elemental defense, and you'll do 3-4x damage per hit than a rapier can do, with hyper armor.

>>163816839
>HoT miracles are hot garbage

Who could've guessed? Replenishment, Bountiful Light, and Bountiful Sunlight should all heal HP as a percentage, not a static amount, or make each one heal the same amount per second, but heal for much longer. Gentle prayer = 60 seconds, Replenishment = 120 seconds, Bountiful Light = 180 Seconds, Bountiful Sunlight = 240 second. Alternatively, we could just make them scale with Faith. That would be nice, too.

>>163816704
Huh? They look like anime platformers to me

>>163817320
>>163815831
>>163816704

Can't tell if this is trolling or not

It's a ground based melee game. Jumping is only used to get across gaps and execute jump attacks. There's no platform-to-platform jumping.

As much as I hate to make this comparison, this is as close to a platformer as something like Skyrim is.

>>163817414
fuck off back to your subreddit

>>163817485
>DS is not a platformer
>say it's not a platformer
>get called a redditor

okay

>tfw exit/quit-out immediately after ancient wyvern stops you from teleporting so you can pick up all of the goodies

god i wish i knew about this 7 months ago

>>163817617
>taking his bait

>>163817617
are you one of them 'new' 'fags'?
Back to your subreddit

pontiff knights are fucking aids

>>163817740
Get a straight sword and spam r1

>>163817414
This post stinks off reddit or 9gag or some other similar shit. Fuck off back to the shithole you came from

>>163811997

Crystal is a trap.

Aside from that, enjoy your free TOXIC.

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What are some fun DS2 builds? Feeling an urge to fire up SOTFS but I haven't played it in a good year.

Also what is a good SM to stop at for coop in the DLC, about 2 million?

>>163817019
Is the Dark Sword still goo PvE I know it was nerfed awhile back.

>>163818404

It's still good but Broadsword has higher base damage.

>>163809738
DS2 is tedious garbage

>>163818534
And linear ass Brown Souls 3 isn't ?

>>163818490

How does Broadsword stack up in range and speed? I recall it being rather short, but maybe I'm still thinking of 1.

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Second DLC when

>>163818853
>>163818534
This is getting old, fuck off alreafy.

>>>/v/

>>163818870

It's one of the shortest straight swords but base speed is about the same as basic straight sword movesets go. It has the infinitely better Stance WA and a 2HR2 that combos into another one. Either Broadsword or Dark Sword will serve you well depending on what you use them for.

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>>163818208

Am I a fool for using the Morion blade because muh Londor theme character?

>>163819125
>2 greatswords
>no power stance

why

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>>163819467

It's a damn good sword so I don't see why not.

>>163819486
Fuck I meant Mirrah Shield

>>163818929
Fuck off back to your subreddit, plebbit trash

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>>163818208
powerstanced greatshields and dual blue flame spellsword have both been really fun,

shame you get both of those so late.

Pic related.

>>163819065
It's so plain looking tho.

>>163820401

Pick another sword than even if it has less AR, most efficient things aren't always the best looking.

>farron greatsword looks badass
>moveset is shit and damage is potato
why from

>>163803109
That spinny attack is stupid easy to roll through though