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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #408

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Previous Thread: >>163564486
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>tfw no boobies
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>>163755281
Is she the most delicious soccerfu yet?
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>>163755391
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>>163755391
cow demon
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Reminder that Vitos is Beth's daddy
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Reminder that MW pleases old men for money
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Reminder that MW pleases everything with a penis for free.
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>people complain they don't get red crit damage stones
>i have literally never got or seen in scouts any dark hp stones
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>>163756726
Wat this cant be.
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Linmay
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>>163757260
Prove me wrong
Protip: You can't
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>>163757549
Reminder that Vonchi is secretly gay
>wat this cant be
>Prove me wrong
You can't

Can you feel your retardency?
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>>163757680
>vonchi
>heterosexual
Have you seen his clothes? The way he exposes his clean chest? He ven duckfaces like a bitch
It's obvious he's a faggot
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>>163757680
>tfw to intelligent to be wrong
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Alice skin is too cute.
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>>163758323
so are you
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I love Uriel!
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>>163758505
Same here bruh.
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>>163757680
>secretly
Yes, I can feel your retardancy.
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Aiolos EE will make her better than jiho, mark my words faggots.
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>>163758505
>tfw max superb uriel
>less damage than no superb hiro
This is a strange feeling
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Reposting this.
Is this team looking okay?
My original idea was using Linmay as CM but she overlaps with Meiran's Inspiring II.
Also does Linmay revive-heal the backline everytime the striker shoots? That would be a nice support to Isillia.
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>>163761618
If she she's in front of the striker then yes

>My original idea was using Linmay as CM but she overlaps with Meiran's Inspiring II.
This is what fucks me off the most about WW. Some really strong units that you can't afford to use in the same line despite that being where they'd shine.
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>>163761618
Isillia ace isn't a good rainbow ace, with that team there I'd just go with MW ace since it covers most of the team and persists for the whole match.
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>>163761714
>wanting ww to be even more broken
why
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>>163761043
>uriel gives advantage to the full team
>hiro only strikes like a child
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>Zhen Long in the scout for the first time
Should I? I'm making a mono WW team.
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>>163762136
>shitty team can't capitalize off the advantage
use your fucking head, moron.
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>>163762390
>using hiro without balth/elaine and choi mid is worthless
>uriel without optimal team has the same damage output as hiro in average
Fuck off Hirofag
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>>163762389
My max sup zhen stays in my box except for the rare occasions I use him in colo.
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>>163762389
NO
NO I SAY
Literally, worst fucking ww unit ever. There's no investment I regret most.
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>>163762094
>le WW is broken meme.
WW stopped being broken a lot time ago.
Nowadays it is one of the weakest elements
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>>163762716
>WW stopped being broken a lot time ago.
>t. wwcucknigger
Only weakness they have is their "good" backline needing 3 legendaries
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>>163762560
>>163762652
Guess I'll be passing him up
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>>163763019
>Complaining about WW.
>When there is ardorball, Presty antics, and light healing
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>>163762716
>ww
>ever broken
Only Silk and ery specific backline was "broken", just because thunderfags were mad they were slowly becoming irrelevant
Thanks to ardorball overbuffing ardor, ardorfags falseflagged ww saying it was broken, retards fell, and ardor could dominate even more, and ww became the most "broken" element
>>163763019
>only weakness is needing 3 legends to have a decent backline
>no midline
>only a striker and a passer for frontline
>still outclassed by the rest without all of it's legends
Yeah, sure ww is cancerous
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>>163763373
Cancer team is cancer team, no excuse to not complain about it. The only weak mono is thunder.
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>>163762652
i remember when zhen long arrived he looked good as a unit,
not sure if infinite players were still a thing, looked perfect for that kind of role, but everything was nerfed and zhen long had no use ever then
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>>163763373
>light healing
Why are they allowed to have 2 good healers? Dark only has a shitty one, Thunder has one that doesn't work in the backline, and WW healer doesn't even have an EE.
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>>163763584
/ourguy/ buffs when ?
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>>163763779
that's not hiro
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>>163763505
>when zhen long arrived he looked good as a unit
He looked like complete crap. Infinite was dead way before Zhen Long release.

>>163762652
>worst ww unit ever
I didn't think so, but looking back, even VB is more useful than him.
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>>163763447
t.thunderfag
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this kills monodark
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>>163764009
oh guess i remember wrong, no idea what they were thinking then

>let's make a player which is perfect for that feature we deleted
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>>163764282
That Isillia is made of paper, you'll be fine anon-kun.
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>>163763447
>>163764282

is monodark even that strong ?

without presty i mean
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>>163764282
>No 4man backline.
>Latios in center.
That team is shit.
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>>163764282
This does.
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>>163764753
Fuck, that mid Beth and Duke probably have 1,7k HP
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>>163764337
Nah, in WW VB would still be better for inifinite than Zhen Long, since Zhen Long depends on his crits to continue his infinite, which would be inviable against some GKs. Also, Zhen Long depends on his 1 spirit bar active to self-heal.
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>>163764863
iirc, they were 1.9k and had 60%+ DR. My darkmid was fucked up and i never did it to his backline.
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>>163764753
for a monolight team identical to this one, except with kei, would Elua or Latios ace be better?
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>>163764976
wew, fucking Latios heal was probably absurd on them
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>>163764753
>and thunder fags complain how bad it is vs ww
>they don't have to deal with this kind of bullshit with high hp and a striker healing the entire team
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>>163765072
Isillia also had Star Tears, easy 1.7k onshoot heal.
BB should do something with ATB recovery on active heals.
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>>163764753
>Bell/choi easily pens through that shitty mid
>Only one dr totem
Oneshot material for sharr type strikers and thuderstrikers
Darkies w/o presty however BTFO
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>>163764976
Couldn't you go through Sammy, she is usually free pen for me.
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>>163765279
I really hope they do, it would kill light backlines and uriel teams
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>>163765286
Show me striker that can oneshot 4k HP isillia before she starts to stack all this shit.
There was only 1 anon with 4k dribble 350 critrate, 300 critdmg and 100% penpower Leventor.
Each other will suck.
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>>163765286
you're delusional and/or just falseflagging if you think choi straight up pens through that, unless you're implying hes CM and pens through sammy which he can. He'd need an active pass or full stacks to pen through a full hp beth or duke
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>>163765473
>300 crit dmg
How? On any non-meme team it won't be anywhere near that.
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>>163765613
He proved this with screenshot but his team is still unknown.
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P O W E R O F C A P I T A L I S M
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>>163765613
I can imagine he had full thunder buffs, Khirel, and probably Jih + Meiran/Jacob active
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Pen ace for light when
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>found a monowwcuck so desperate to have a meme team he has miho on frontline
What the hell is this stupid meme?
Worst part is he has Meiran in backline and Linmay CM.
What the fuck was he thinking?
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>>163766316
Hopefully never, lack of pen is what hold monolight
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Hiro skill active phrase is the most fun to listen to, prove me wrong.

Pro tip: you CAN'T
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>>163766504
LET'S GO FOR IT
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>be ww
>fight against meme monoww
>his shanti with active shot and after active pass deals 1.2k to my jin solo
>my shanti after elaine does 2.6k crit to his jin/magnus after active block
Wonder if there's a pattern here
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>>163765278
But WW players usually hit 2k+ HP, especially the backline.
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>>163766828
Yeah but they don't have a striker to heal them and most decent backline regardless of element will have stacked HP.
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>>163766925
>t. wwnigger
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>>163767176
>t. thundernigger with shitty team
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>>163767241
>thundernigger
????
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>>163766772
His Shanti a shit, elaine balanced.
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>>163767303
!
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>>163767303
Oh sorry Urielfag, mistook you for someone else.
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>>163767303
Literally, only thunderbabies whine about ww.
Dark doesn't give a shit, Light doesn't give a shit, and Ardor doesn't give a shit for any element in the game.
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>>163764282
>>163764753
>Light bullshit includes atb manipulation, healing, and huge dr
Why are they allowed to have 3 broken gimmicks while WW and Thunder's gimmick is
>haha we go fast
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>>163767729
>Literally, only thunderbabies whine about ww.
>
>>163767594
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>everyone hates light now
Wh-what?
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>>163767874
Good night, lightfag, be ready to shine (or cry if atb recovery is getting nerf in balance (what) patch)
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>>163767874
Everyone hates everyone now. It hurts seeing us all fight ;_;
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>>163767989
Shut the fuck up faglord
Probably an ardorcuck
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>>163767874
There's a reason we've always listed you as #2 cancer, lightfag. You can't stay stealth op by hiding under ardor's shadow any longer.
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>>163768054
>dindu
Obviously a thunderfag
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>>163768094
Found the lightnigger
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>>163768209
Fuck off dark, you're cancer by proxy on ww cancer shadow
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>>163767989
>Everyone actually loves WW and secretly wants buffs for us
Heh, you lads are alright sometimes.
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Every element but mine is OP btw :^)
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>>163768254
>>163768094
>>163768054
>u!
>no u!
Light was hiding under ardor cancer, dark - under wwniggers. Wwniggers are hiding themselves and only thunder is gone by time.
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>>163768298
I just want buffs for Saramir is it to much to ask for
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>>163768314
THIS
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>>163768379
I want to use Saramir and Jin in the same line, goddammit
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>ardorcuck
>thunderbaby
>wwnigger
>lightfag
>dark??
Mono ace buffs were an error.
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>>163768314
To be honest lads, this!
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>>163768379
>wanting wwniggers' backline to be even more retarded
Why
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>>163768379
Saramir a shit, Aiolos buffs soon.
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>>163768446
>thunderbaby
It's thundercuck. Nice try though, thundercuck :^)
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>>163768446
Ardor was an error*
ftfy
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>>163768446
darklord :^)
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>>163767874
>now
Silla and Milky has been hated since the beginning of the ages. Latios in CoD, and old Beth too. For some time Light had the most cancerous striker, and was still completely viable even when Thunder reigned.
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>>163768634
Don't forget Nerua that started the Reflex ace cancer
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>>163768470
>implying people use Saramir
Even if she got a minor buff, WW backline has too much competition for Saramir to fit in.
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>>163768708
>nerua
>light
nani
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>>163768613
She would look really cute with a loli skin.
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>>163768708
>Nerua started reflex ace cancer
Qiyou started it way before Nerua was even born. It was the only reason people would use Qiyou in a competitive team.
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Are AS aces any good?
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>>163768932
no.
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>>163768932
It's all good except for Defense, Regeneration, or pass.
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>>163768873
And she still sucks compared to Nerua, which is why everyone went for Silk ace before the ace changes
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>>163768932
Depends on your team. Meiran ace is one of the best for ww.
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>>163768578
thundercuck overlaps with ardorcuck, but thunder is certainly the worst element so they clearly deserve it.
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POWER OF CAPITALISM

INCREASED WINRATES

CASHLOVE

DO IT YOURSELF
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>wake up
>no Virgil
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>>163770190
>no Virgil
>no Gaphyl

GAME DOESNT ALLOW ME TO ESPORT
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>>163770190
>>163771025
>wake up, Miho
>refreshes scout
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>>163771025
>have both MSPU but don't use

you can be esport without males anon
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>>163770190
>>163771025
>have every healer but gaphyl and freyja
>don't use any
>if I get those I won't use them
I'm not a shitter who needs those ugly cunt cancerous healers
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>tfw trying to make a galaxy level monoww team but its literally impossible
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>>163771830
>btw I use DurAngela :^)
Fuck off. My GK needs a healer.
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>>163772103
I made it to galaxy but my team was full superb.
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Should I slap a Metatron's Will on Uriel?
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>>163772113
>no duran
>st jin
Try again when I have money to be cancer
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>>163772824
>Should I slap Uriel?
Yes, the slut loves it.
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>>163772456
post team
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>>163772824
Yes, Metatron will slap Uriel anytime
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Will be Duran nerfed to death at balance patch?
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>>163773774
If they do, then buffs for goalies or nerfs for broken strikers and elaine are a necessity.
He's practically the only thing able to stop allthis overpowered strikers, it's ridiculous.
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>>163773774

Turn his best totem to affect only non-ardor players.
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>>163773859
They should nerf Isillia before this.
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I kinda want to blow a couple million gold on scout trying to get vonchi so I can activate presty's nemesis chain. Should I?
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>>163774203
Wait for turtle.
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>>163773774
nerf his totems and add a 5 min paralyze to enemy line when shot at
:^)
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>inb4 ravian a shit xd
>inb4 elaine is balance xd
>inb4 your jin a shit git gud lol
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>>163774227
for what
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>>163774000
Dude she's like the weakest GK
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>>163775516
Nah, it's just that Jin is a shit goalkeeper.
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>>163775516
>Losing to a Ravian
Wew. What's next complaints about Bora?
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>>163775606
>Isilliafags really believe this
She's not even the worst light GK. That goes to Kei.
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>>163775987
After 20 minutes she's the worst tho
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>>163775987
Kei with Duran and two healers is not bad
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>>163776213
>shes only fantastic for the first half of the match, when most games usually end
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>>163775768
>losing to bora
Wew. What's next complaints about Latios?
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>>163776348
any keeper with Duran and two healers is not bad
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>>163776380
>he's so shit he can't stand 45 minutes of the game
Your fault
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>>163776516
Isillia with that is still bad and she's a OHKO for most strikers, Kei can atleast survive one
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>>163776348
Virgil+Startears + Duran +Chitose = Who do you think you are challenging?!
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>>163776528
nice strawman retard. we're talking about Isillia not being shit, not that she's OP and can't be beaten
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>>163767989
they're just jealous that uriel and latios are cuter than their elements strikers.
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>>163776717
>they're just jealous that uriel is cuter than their elements strikers.
ftfy
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>>163776575
Disgusting, throw in Uriel or Latios for extra disgust
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>>163776717
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>>163776881
>so superior to rest of the girls she had to be censored and reworked into an uglier EE art and ugly skin
>still cutest
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>>163776992
I want her to be good again ;_;
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>>163777108
Me too, just so I can see thunderbabies whinning about her being broken once again
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>>163777108
she is good, yours is shit.
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>>163777318
Try killing Durangela lines with Beatrice
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Who will overtake meta once her heal is nerfed to the ground?
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>>163777557
Try to kill durangela with Uriel, fagit.
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>>163777557
>muh Angela
Vonchi sucks against Presty, does that make him bad? Beatrice is fine and can pull off Leventor level damage
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>>163777557
most strikers either have trouble with durangela or have at least 1 bad matchup against a certain gk. angela is ubiquitous but you should have rerolled a red slot on bea by now. if you haven't then you need to realize that is truly is because your beatrice is shit.

>>163777919
this is easier than killing her with beatrice, anon
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>>163778037

I took beatrice to galaxy last season and killed a lot of durangela. She just needs like 4 one on one shots. That same shot that will ohko isilla or BT is shrugged off by angela.

Bad match up but you can win over time.
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Current events fucking suck. New events when?
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>>163778037
But nobody has problems with thunder GKs
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>>163779538
>Christmas "event"
I don´t know how can Bigballs get way with this shit.
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>>163780443
i struggle against well built robins
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Do I have to be galaxy to discuss stuff here or is diamond okay?
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>>163780967
don't worry, I'm only gold. I'm an Ureilfag btw
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>>163780810
Stop using Uriel against him
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>>163775606
Ronald and Zibroi are far worse
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>>163780967
As long your posts make sense
>>163781620
>expecting waifufags to use their brains
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>Duran-Gaphyl-Jiho-Kevin+Silla Ace
>Angela GK
>Angela is literally Captain Planet and is immune to physical attack
>Jiho AI was kill stealing frontline units with no hesitation
>Gaphyl was disgustingly healing by just breathing
>Duran and Kevin stood like totems like they should

What a fun game.
Latios + Sammy CM stalled for forever but their William became MVP with just a single shot.
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>>163782928
When the balance is just right.
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>>163783005
Yeeeeah, fun and interactive
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>>163783046
That person tossed a lot of money at the game, that's what you get. Pay $$$ to cut cookies
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>>163782928
>only 1 wwcancer player
What a shitter, ardor is balanced git gud thunderbabby
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>Grinding ardor elementals
>Nera with 2500 reflex
>Elementals with 2100
>Consistently get ca'd
10% my ass.
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>>163783383
Why is your Nera penetrating?
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>>163781620
i still win, it just takes like 7 more shots than raklet.
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>>163783603
She's my fastest player and I just wanted to get through my st quickly
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>>163783812
Play your mid with VF and that snowball long passer that is a WW unit
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>>163783383
I do the same.

I usually do the same with neta. I did not know it was possible for a rainbow or ardor elemental to stop her.
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New player just finishing my monoardor team, I have a quick question
Should I let people fuck my wife before or after getting to platinum?
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>>163784664
Before, of course. My Vitos is ready.
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H--help
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>>163784794
Fisrt one is a trap.
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>>163778037

>you should have rerolled a red slot on bea by now

Not him but I tried that and failed several times. Not happy with the reroll lotto or spending over 750DS just to unfuck a player i like.
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>>163784794
"I'll sleep by your side tonight." will give +3 because she is a roasty
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>>163784972
The slot rerolling is the worst thing they've ever added to the game, it's just another layer of rng that keeps you away from cute legends if you want to stay relevant in esports.
The fact it's an ardor slot makes it even worse since all the ardor cancer strikers don't even have to waste d stones on it.
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>>163763779
we'll probably get another healer before that.
which is a shame.
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>>163770190
>no meta
>will always be at a disadvantage until i scrounge up the D stones.
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I NEED RAINBOW ELEMENTALS LIKE I NEED FUCKING A I R
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>>163786660
Literally how?
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>>163780967
I'm in fucking bronze and giving out good e-sports info, so yeah nigga feel free to fucking discuss here.
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I just scouted a Beatrice superb, /ssg/!
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>>163786660
Scout is your friend friend
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>go check out serin's twitter
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>>163786826
Proud of you anon! I belive you will make her great again
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>>163786918
who did she kill, /ssg/?
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>>163787034
(You)
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>>163786918
I want to have mind break hate sex with Elaine!
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>>163785894
Worst thing about this is that the current devs have no clue how to unfuck current state. I can't imagine them still waiting to get more money until changing meta. Current cancer already matured and there's nothing much to whale for except Presty, but that's too little.
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>>163787034
Team comp diversity.
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>>163786782
I need them for my poverty monolight. Trade system when?
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>>163786826
good luck anon
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how many golds do I have to spend for virgin to appear on scouts
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>>163787480
All of it
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>>163787548

>All of it + 15,000
ftfy
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>>163788036
Oh, I meant all of the gold he'll ever get
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>>163788330
+ 15,000
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How does critical resistance work? Is the CR % reduced from the opposing critical chance, or is it purely the chance to evade a crit if one happens?
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>>163787204
I doubt they can unfuck it since there's probably no way for them to track how many slot rerolls someone has attempted.

One of the major issues with the new devs is that they try to push the meta in a specific direction by giving units certain kits that fuck over one prominent type of unit in particular instead of just nerfing the problem units. When these new units don't take or aren't enough to cure the cancer, they keep pushing out more and more until it does and creates a new type of cancer instead. It started back with the old devs when Nerua, Silk, and Lucian started a crit resist arms race which led to Elaine and Shura giving ridiculous amounts of crit to counter them.

Then we entered pen stacking hell and when Lucifer didn't take they decided to push stronger units like Duran, Angela, Altair, and introduce the Dense Magma stone to make sure it did.

Now with pen resist out of control they decided to give thunder and ardor pen aces and then when people bitched they threw Malcolm a rainbow pen ace too so now everyone can do it :^).

Right now they're in the middle of trying to destroy stacking strikers after they pushed them too hard, not only do we have Aiolos and Presty but we have the nerfs looming on the horizon too. The Aiolos + Presty combo is devastating to stacking strikers already, the nerfs are just a big fuck you that will lead us back to Sharr/Shantiball which will always be the default esports state since they refuse to fix DI.
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>>163789378
the first you mentioned,

if striker has 100% critical chance and gk has 80% cr
then striker has effectively 20% chance to crit on shoot
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>>163789378
It reduces the enemies crit chance by however much crit resist you have so
>Enemy has 120% Crit rate
>(You) have 100% crit resist
The enemy will have a 20% chance to crit.
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>>163789378
You need 100 % to be guaranteed a crit, but if he got 100 % cr you would need 200 % to be guaranteed a crit
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PREDICT THE EE IN THE NEXT BALANCE PATCH
GOGOGO
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>>163790134
Sage EE and aol EE
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>>163790134
Pablo Escobar
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>>163790134
EEs for all the exclusive jp players
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>>163787327
Is this the full image? I'm not getting anything from the image searchers.
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>>163789456
I don't really see a problem with pushing players that counter specific meta. The problem is they are build to counter it alone without the nerfing the character in question. Just look at Victoria, they nerfed whole reflex mechanics just to reduce her effect on mid without touching her. Or, in case of Virgil, they didn't follow his nerf though and didn't remove ATB recovery from healing skills. Both players are still heavily used and without decent alternative.

This game has high inertia, so unless devs nerf mechanics and players alike, it will take months to change and only if the new players are visibly better than the old one. This is caused by the prohibitive cost of leaving old, invested players behind and investing in new ones.
If the devs focused more on balance, number of skins and novelty players instead of constantly pushing players to counter current state this game would be in much healthier state.
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>>163790134
Sage and Altair
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>>163790134
It will be that one wind chick. The one with the small hat.
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>>163790134
Elizabeth
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>>163790134
Fucking Miho.
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>>163790134
I expect nothing less that BB giving EE to few forgotten players nobody cares about with very lazy buffs. Instead they will attempt to fix the fiasco from the last patch, but since this is BB, the most probable scenario is that they will have to rollback utility strikers again.
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>>163790765
Pixiv
Appleslush
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>>163787327
>tfw still using Lucian since Tyler EE came on SS Global
>want to change for Angela
>but Nerf can hit at anytime
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>>163790945
In theory it's fine to just introduce new units as tech choices to shake up the meta but you hit the nail on the head with their refusal to nerf the units that are at fault too.

If they want mono teams to take off they should consider taking a handful of units with broken passives and have them scale based on how many units of the same color are on the team with them. They could fix a lot of lackluster units that got nerfed this way and to keep a lot of cancer units in check.

Have Virgil restore spirit for every light player on the team instead of the # of players in line. You could even take nerfed units like Miho and restore them to their old values as long as their on a mono team. The rainbowfags can still min-max the perfect number of units needed for just the right amount of cancer and the mono players can have stronger passives to fight the rainbow cancer instead of just having more stats.

If they did this with only the meta cancer units that are on almost every team and let units like Shu remain the way they are on rainbow teams then we could see the meta shift in interesting ways. With Virgil nerfed we could see the teams using Victoria or Sharr actually adding units like Shu because they want the small boost he gives them on top of his utility, it's essentially a free totem added to his kit that allows him to help out select players without breaking him in PvE or making him cancer. Maybe we'd start seeing more team diversity at that point, they could even make the legends require only half of the team to be on color to reach their full potential as well to keep the rainbowfags happy and feel like their d stones weren't wasted. Maybe even add some new spirit stones that lower the number of on color players required at the cost of losing stats. You'd need 3 on color units then to make them as strong as they are now but their stats would be way worse compared to if you were using 5.

Just make it PvP only and remove the stone unequip costs.
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>>163794413
>tfw this guy will never be one of SS devs
FUCK
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Waiting warmly for Jury EE.
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>>163794413
Scaling Burst, could be a nice idea. It could also be applied to the dual aces (for each color separately) to see if it works. Full rainbow would still be kept in check while dual and mono could be better alternative. boosting dual could be a dent way to make balancing single color easier with other colors.

As for equipping stones, I would like to see expansion of formation screen with more slots and persistent stones for each formation. I would like to experiment with different formations and combinations of stones and maybe I would like to adjust the formation to counter the opponent, but even with the cost removed, it would still be pain in the ass.
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>>163794939
I really like the idea of having stones set by formation, especially if they allowed you to save CoD formations like you can with CoT.
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>>163794615
Shut up you faggot
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>>163795935
no u
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>>163795935
>t. rainbow cancer user
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>when you get OHKO by a 75% pen William that received a Choi pass from mid to frontline, along with a Renee combo
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>>163795773
All they have to do is to set dynamic number of formations each with persistent stones. They could even make money with that just like with inventory slots.

It shouldn't even be that hard to implement, Database model is no different and implementation is just a matter adding new/delete button and editable labels.
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>>163796816
>not just skipping imposible matches
Frogposters are retards
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I've been saying this since burst patch came out that they should have all aces that aren't blanket rainbow aces scale with how many players of that ace are under it. They also should think about taking from mtgs book and seriously consider which colors do what and make sure those colors stick to their theme for the most part. Dark? Great debuffs/stealing or minus life poor at buffing healing themselves. Light great at buffing/healing and bad at debuff. Things like that. In stead their giving every element the same players with slight variations the minute Virgil became a thing they said every team needs a hero and gave we miho thunder Freya and ardor graphyl this is okay but it lacks variation and everyone just uses the healers that are best. I've seen many teams with off color Virgil's and graphyls
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>>163797207
>stating the obvious in a long, tedious and uninteresting way
tl;dr: devs are retarded and don't know what they're doing, making it obvious they don't even test their shit before release
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>>163796816
How about those teams with Guin goalie for the ace, a wall for a mid, Lev,Elaine and Celus for a one shot front
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Why do they take tons of shitty un-evolved players in PvE and make them unreasonably strong instead of just using strong players in the first place?
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>>163797168
Had he not critted, I honestly could've won. I have beaten even a 50% pen William because he didn't crit in his combo
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>>163797727
To screw people's perception of what's strong and weak and to make them think that you can make more players usable in this game.
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>>163798037
No shit sherlock.
William only does damag critting unless Elaine used her active.
That's why he was shit, and now he's broken.
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>>163798796
>tfw I can win against 100%~ pen William
>but Sharr with high pen can win without critting
Really makes me think who is the legendary
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>>163798982
>william critting can deal almost double damage of sharr non crit
>sharr critting can't do as much as william critting
Nah, they're balanced, it's the stones that break him.
That and everyone is a wwcuck falseflagging
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I love Linmay!
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There is literally nothing wrong with the balancing in Soccer Spirits. You wouldn't be playing it otherwise, you cucks.
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>>163799579
Im only playing it cause of Uriel, if Uriel didn't exist therefore I wouldn't be posting here.
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>>163799069
>That and everyone is a wwcuck falseflagging
>Sharr kills BT,Jin,Robin,Raklet,Irre without critting
>"wwcuck falseflagging"
Spot the Urielfag
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>>163799579
Thanks BB, you're right.
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>>163799695
>irre
spotted the mad wwcuckniggerwhorefalseflaggerfaggotcuntbaby
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Why does WW get the best girls?
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>thundercucks shitposting as always
>now urielfags making Uriel looks like a shitposting magnet or Light a shitposting magnet
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>>163799886
GAHAHAHAHAHHAH
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>>163799886
furries have their own board and its definitely not /vg/
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>>163799886
Superior element obviously gets the superior girls.
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>>163800001
Not a single WW female is furry.
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>>163799886
most of them don't care about you having a job.
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>>163800232
Except for Neraizel at first, but I wouldn't even really count that
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>spent 850k
>red crit dmg is at +14
ebin
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GIMME RAINBOW ELEMTALS NOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW
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>Sue was relevant at one point
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>>163800787
>Leventor was relevant at one point
rip
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>>163801262
>Beatrice was relevant at one point
rip
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>>163792090
Thanks.
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>Shanti in scout
what do?
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>>163801892
Post team
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>>163801892
>ww
skip
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>>163801304
>hiro was relevant at one point
rip
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>>163801892
>getting legendaries
EXPLODE
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>>163797207
>>163794939
Scaling ace burst would lead to further problems. There would be nothing preventing mono teams from splashing in metatrons mid, or other extremely powerful players while stil lgaining almost all ace-burst advantages.
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>>163801935
I'm building mono WW, already have a maxed Kirin. Should I stick with Kirin?
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>>163803204
Not him, but Balmung Kirin as long he crits he will deal high dmg regardless of his %pen
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When will Aiolos drop to classic? After the next round of legends?
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>>163804514
After next WW legend
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>>163804514
next year
better save up 1.5k ds
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>>163804683
I already dropped 2400 dstones on other legends though
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>>163804870
Well, chop chop.
Times a wastin'
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Give me boobies BB
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Give me rainbow elementals BB
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>>163800787
She was?
Was it before Wide View was reworked to become Trouble Maker?
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They really need to add fairies to season scout.
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>>163804971
Whaling is such a chore though.
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>>163805491
Nothing a couple hrs doing your 9-5 can fix
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WHY CAN'T BB GIVE US RAINBOW ELES JUST LIKE THEY GAVE US CUPIES LAST WEEK? WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE ON THEIR FAVOUR????
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>>163805491
Got to get them bigga nigga
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>>163805627
Cause it's their game
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>Vonchi released
>people even call him "sanic" because of how fast he was
>EE comes, his kit is nerfed and he become a common stacking striker but without active cost and no CD
>again, they nerf him and give his active half-bar cost
>Choi,Serestia,Duran and Jiho got a perfect EE
Why is Light bullying allowed?
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>>163805581
Disability and GI Bill goes a long way ;^)
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>>163805059
>i'll never get boobies
>even if i get her she's doomed to be a permanent box cheerleader
Fuck you BB
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I miss when BB made system changes and then compensated us a lot for them. Getting handed dozens of sho shos was amazing.

Imagine if they removed stone unequip fees and then refunded all our stone unequips in the past. inb4 they dont track stone unequips in their DB
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>>163805774
It's called balance, nigger
Also, you have nothing to complain, he's the second strongest striker even after all those nerfs.
I'll wait for the hammer to drop on ardor and certain light nuisances, they deserve it the most
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>>163806835
>replying to falseflaggers

never change /ssg/
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>>163806758
They barely track result of your matches..
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>>163806746
Got mine
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>>163807113
Enjoy, game will close in two months anyway
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>tfw no boobies
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Epic7 when?
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>>163807335
When I get boobies
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Can I mono light now?
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>>163807796
You'll need boobies first.
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>>163807113
Is Dynames worth using over Elua? or is he worth using at all in a monolight backline?
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>>163807796
>no boobies
might as well make a 2* team
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>>163807926
It's either one or the other.
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>>163807926
>thinking on replacing based boobies with a useless faggot
Look at this shit taste betafag
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>>163808461
I bet you don't even have her yourself fuccboi bitch
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>>163808840
And that's why I know she's better, because I got that faggot, and he's so bad I'm saving him to ST the best light long passer
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>>163807796
Just put the virgin in there nigga, you know you want him.
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>>163809045
Rasiel is not a virgin though
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need friends for maximum manager function
add Altairis
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>>163801892
Shes the WW sharr
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It's such a pain in the ass to deal with new pen star burst'd aces. Everything turns into a killing machine. What the fuck were the devs thinking?
>>
balance update soon right?
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>>163813651
>>163814151
Just take it easy, senpai! Don't worry about balance unless you want to esports, and if you want to esports then just go full cancer.
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Is Irene worth getting if you already have Perial?
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>>163814689
They don't even serve the same function.
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>>163814689
Since you can swap managers at any time, Perial doesn't matter. There's no other manager which can do stone cost reduction, so yes, get her
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I want to cuddle this cutie
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>character has cute skin
>it doesn't match their voice
FUCK
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>>163811614
I don't add trannies
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>>163815604
You use sound?
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>free friendship draw
>a littre
Good morning, ssg, it should be great day today!
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>>163819027
It's 8 minutes from midnight, pal.
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>>163819412
Im not living in Mexico , sorry.
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>>163819412
And what a great eight minutes it was. Metatron's Will in the scout, Ustiel from a draw and double drops from the wolf match.
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New Choi friend here trying to figure a good stone setup for him when I don't have an encompassing soul how's this?
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Best stone for Jiho?
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nerf jibril to the ground reee
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>>163821163
Shit
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>>163821163
you should give him 2 dark crit damage for PVE purpose and lotsa damage for pvp too

calm icicle is probably better than ShoT but is also good i guess also helps critting

ardor slot should be fine with reflex
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>tfw finished max tpu'ing my Guin
Feels so fucking good.
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>>163830506
Grats man, not put her back her back on the club team so I can win some matches :^)
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Fuck God, WG is useless, Jiho destroyed her on penetrating through 100% DR. Mine WG was fspu +160 and TW included and she died like the last whore. What a joke.
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>>163830891
Yeah no shit
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>>163830891
>He thought light had a good unit
It's nothing but false flagging darkfags who don't stack pen who complain that light is op when it is mostly shit.
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>>163831537
please stop false-false flagging.
tyvm.

As a lightfag it's too early in the morning to deal with this shit.
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>>163830891
i actually thought her 100% dr was the kind used in special matches when it seems you always deals 1 damage regardless of pen, granted i never used high pen in general

guess she went from "having niche use" to "being complete shit" now
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Light bullying is real
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>>163831537
>Implying a chitose,black ivy, Virgil plus one backline isn't the biggest cancer backline in the game
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>>163832458
>t. wwcucknigger
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>>163832491
>not darkshit
LuL
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Name me one 5* ardor striker that struggle to get to at least diamond

Pro tip: you can't.
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>>163830891
>Jiho destroyed her on penetrating through 100% DR.
That sounds doubtful, if it was a Choi who has high pen it would've been less falseflagged
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>>163832557
Every kind of striker can hit diamond, Sam, Noa, Constance, Pei Lin e.t.c. all of them can do it when fspu +160 70lvl and have proper team.
inb4 this was a low quality bait and I fell for it
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>>163832653
The point was to prove Ardor is too strong, meanwhile Uriel, Damien,Hiro, Griffith, Beatrice etc you need really good substats to not struggle
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>>163832616
I have forgotten to mention this was monoardor with Willum ace. 45% penpower for free is balanced.
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>thundercucks will say she is bad
>>
>nerf pen
>put pen aces
????
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>>163832948
I won't say she's bad but that one in particular is definitely shit.
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>>163832964
Incorrect.
>nerf pen
>give penaces to ardor and the only one element who dont need extra pen
This is how you do it.
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>wwfags will say Nera CM is useless and weak
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>>163833024
What the fuck was BB thinking? I can't understand them.
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>>163833256
>he dont have 3,6k reflexes with meta debuff
Shit Nera.
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>>163833256
>not 1.5k+ steal
>100%+ crit damage
You haven't seen real Neraizel hell yet.
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>>163833480
>>163833394
>tfw Meta with more reflex failed to CA her all times
>got KOd trying to steal or when being attacked
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>>163833024
This anon gets it.
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>>163833264
>BB
>Thinking

After that previous referral event
I continue to stop understanding them, and go with the flow.
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>>163833538
>CA
Don't count on it. BB has it rigged against the user. Better build your Meta like Neraizel and kill steal anything and everything.
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Every time I come back Milky Way is worse, what the hell?
Why did they nerf her ace... Why do they hate me so?
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>>163834065
Because it was cancer. Go mono or go home.
>>
guys
woah
i just thought
like
Monorainbow

Woah
>>
@163834983

Fuck yourself
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>>163834983
what if monorainbow burst
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>>163835361
>must have 2 units from each element for it to be activated
>support can be whatever
>>
>farming ardor elementals
>see this
Today is good day!
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>>163835427
Could be fun
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>>163835490
>not farming with a clover team
nani
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>>163835542
Im too lazy swap teams
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>>163835585
Your farming really sucks, then
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>>163835694
But i got littre and you didnt. Suck it.
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>>163835759
Couldn't expect less from darkscum
>>
guys come on we're all friends here.

except ardorcunts fuck them
im dead serious too.
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>>163816413
>doesn't use sound
The voices make my cock rock solid
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>only now realized there was another tab on Jiho's event
fugg
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>>163836562
Im not friends with some stupid fairy
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>>163837373
Couldn't expect less from a thunderbabie
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>>163837408
Nice try, but im anything but thunder
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>>163837514
lightfag detected
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>>163837514
Probably an ardorcuck
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>>163837627
>>163837653
Got both a shitty light and ardor team, but my main team is ww/dark. You guys are pretty bad at this kind of stuff
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>thread so ded I have to pretend to be 4 guys arguing
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>>163837982
Atleast you got me here too, but I'm still not friends with some stupid fairy
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>>163838052
>WW has fairies
>he's not friends with units of his own element
WWcuckniggers, ladies and gentlemen!
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>>163838142
Never befriend fey creatures and especially not blue fairies who think they are the STRONGEST
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>>163838373
>btw im mad because Fairy gets more attention than me
I got you there.
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>>163838373
>he doesn't wanna be friends with CirnoTan
WWcucks confirmed homosexuals.
>>
fags
>>
as a new player playing less then a week is it worth farming the boss battles for the season character, seems decent to get a certain 5 star you could use then spend the 300 crystals on 1 ten draw
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>>163838561
All bosses except Daisy are shit.
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>>163838561
Don't play this game: it's SHIT.
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>>163838561
Not sure you have enough time to get her before her run is over for now
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>>163838716
i was going to dump crystals to farm it.
also whats the best effective str way to farm the points just do a shit load of 6str ones or do the 10 or wait for the harder main boss in a few days?

also how hard is the main one if waiting is better id like to get it the 3 times if possible so it has a few superb points
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>>163838947
the 10 draw is your best bet.
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>>163838561
Bosses aren't really endgame material. It's definitely not worth spending crystals on it.
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>>163838947
I'd say ignore her for now and keep drawing, the boss match is pretty hard for beginners and the 5* is not a guaranteed drop
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>>163839127
my team is like 7000 points atm doable? it just makes more sence to me to get something i could use what would be decent now ( and get all the extra xp, gp, levels from doing it) then trying 1 300 crystal draw hopeing to get something 5-6* and it also being good and being on colour.
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>>163839282
Eh, post team and we can see, but I doubt you'll have a great time against her
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>>163839381
all the chars have level 9+ rare stones, akane is max sup+30 bora is sup+3 and yuran is sub+4 yuri is sub+1 also have the mats to evo erica and EE evo princess before the boss comes.
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>doing CoD 36
>Nerua co-ops with Angela FUCKING TWICE in a row
WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163839669
I guess you could try and see how hard it is for you, if you're on global post your IGN so you can get some higher leveled friends to atleast make it a bit easier for you
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>>163840065
im on galaxy thought it would be better to not join a server with loads of old players :(
i got a fair amount of AAA or s friends already tho for good characters. Also seems i assume you have been playing a while whats the best way to advance now im to the point i need mats for ee and special evo focus on leveling up the spirit stones to 3 or 4 star +15?
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>>163840360
dailies, achievements, colo, CoT and story mode. Completing story gives lots of rewards, different for each difficulty setting
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>>163840360
You really need to EE your players yeah, most importantly your striker, what other players do you have than the ones onscreen?
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>>163838561
Good bosses: Jury and Black Daisy. Also try to get the beelzebub, littres or Mera the boss scout can give if possible
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Can anyone explain, what's the main difference between Isilia and Kei (assuming they have the same light backline)?
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>>163840791
kei gets stronger as the game goes on while isillia gets weaker, also kei is a male
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>>163840521
i need another cupie and and a 5 star swil and i can ee bora and can ee princess tomorrow after i farm some green 5 star eles my other characters i have are in pic also have a enthia im thinking about working in if i can get another decent ww holder so i can switch to lucian ace and drop the dark
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>>163840791
Isilia is better for shorter matches, <20 minutes
Kei is better for longer lasting matches because of his stacking passive.
Isillia has more chains for monolight teams and has DFC
Kei is based.
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>>163840898
fuck forgot the pic :(
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>>163840898
Being on element isn't too important for you, more important that the players have superbs, stones and such.
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>>163841006
i have atleast 2star rare stones for any char thats 5+ and the only other superb i have thats already no in the team is +1 superb on veronica and shanti so if other characters would fit in better im open to suggestions
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>>163841005
>>163841262
I guess you could move Yuri down to replace the 4* and put Veronica in her place, but other than that you can't really do much without disregarding colors completely. You could use a passer up top, so be on the lookout in scout for that
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>BT with Duran takes negligible damage from my Sharrs non-crits
Sharr so broken my ass

inb4 your Sharr sucks, I have the typical stone build with Elaine support.
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>>163841456
Where's your WoM with +20% Pen
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Who the FUCK at BB thought Gaphyl was balanced to release

Let's have a healer that's stronger than legends and also heals by breathing mkay

And let's give it to ardor because they suck so bad and need some help
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>>163841005
I'd keep dark since you have serestia, aim to get a renee as well since your front is lacking. If you really want to cut the cookie as well move yuri back and get an elaine for the spot up front and use her ace so u can replace Niarose. I've been using dark/ardor for a while now and get galaxy every season so if you the like the characters in it its worth investing in
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>>163841456
Your sharr is shit buddy, my jin with duran gets hit for over 1k regularly on non-crit.
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>>163841429
ye i saw looking for a passer and didnt get one hence the akane as she is not that bad as a make weight until i get a real one seems shes superb all the way
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>>163841456
my bora 2-3HKO's every WW backline no matter the units it has and no one complains about her, thanks sharr
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>>163841746
Just keep going and keep drawing, also try to get as high as you can in CoT.
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>>163841687
So? Doesn't sound like Sharr is broken at all if she's only doing less than 1/4 of Jin's HP with a shoot, when she has elemental advantage.
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>>163841590
Yeah and it's so broken how Sharr and william do so much damage to BT and Jin! Ardor nerfs now!!
Nice try WWnigger.
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>>163841869
That sounds like a Sharr with no stones
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>>163841869
face it bud, your sharr is shit so are the ghost stats for your stones
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>>163841837
Bora's fucking ugly so you can keep her.
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>>163841869
That's without a crit anon, renee pass and a crit usually knocks off 80%, thank god her crit rate is usually garbage.
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>tfw wasn't invited to the Christmas party
A-at least there's the new year's party, r-right?
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>>163842031
kys, rapper bora is a miracle of the universe
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>>163842060
I would celebrate christmas with you anon
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>>163842060
what?
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>>163841862
ye i have been doing that i can clear the first 20 stages pretty easy now but soon as it gets to stage 3 when i have to drop players i get my shit pushed in so either im doing something really wrong or thats just the limit of my team atm
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>>163842139
That's just the limit probably, keep upgrading your team and you'll get there. 20 is good for where you're at currently
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>>163840024
>get to frontline
>co-op, restart
>get to frontline
>co-op, restart
>get to frontline
>co-op, restart
>get to frontline
>co-op, restart
this homo took out a lot of my bp, co-op removed when
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>>163841946
>actually defending Gaphyl's brokenness
What the hell?
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>>163842139
20 is pretty good for now, let's you start massing d-stones and gp to get more units. 3-x ones start to have more restrictive requirements of number of players of a certain type, which is hard for you to meet since you have like 2 pages of 5*s.
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>>163842024
>>163842043
How the fuck is any Sharr critting vs BT with 200% crit res w/ Alice debuff and Duran? How do you get that much crit?
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>>163842315
I'm fine if they keep it for pvp, but please we don't need it in pve. Nothing ever good has happened when something joined. If they do, hah good luck penning or shooting, and if it happens for you, yay another dead unit
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>>163842121
I would rather smell Lynbell's stinky neet asshole than have a bora on my team
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>>163842542
Lynbell is not stinky!!!
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>>163842591
To be fair, I'd take any excuse to smell her delicious stinky body
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>>163842643
Bad anon bad
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Hi Denk
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>>163843091
no
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>>163843091
denk doesnt come here anymore
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>>163843903
I-I still have faith
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what about noautist ?
i don't see noaposting anymore
i-is he o-okay ??
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>>163844126
he was on 2 hours ago, maybe hes just busy on holiday or something
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I want to 69 Griff-chan.
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>>163844556
Don't lewd the Griff mBell
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>>163844126
>tfw Yuukachan will never come back
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>>163842504
i have lost more games than it has saved me. on floors that i use linmay+meta backline on, having both of them get killed is too dangerous

>>163844556
66 and 99 is better for cuddling
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>>163845048
how about we cuddle bby
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>>163845048
Exactly, you need them to revive eachother not die together like what coop keep doing
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>>163844993
O-okay senpai.
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>>163845505
Good boy
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>>163845505
>>163845639
gay
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>>163845639
Thanks senpai.

Farmed a lot of thunder pengs to get her to 70. Now I just need to get Cynthia to 60. Weird, I had her lying around the bench ST'd with 4 superbs.

I think Freyja will be a priority to get to 70 next. She wants all her passives and active. Would bat be a good stone on her?
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>>163845818
Relationship between senpai and kouhai is totally not sexual at all

>>163845920
I really like FTS on healers, but I seen some with Lightning Speed aswell for extra reflex and to get enough spirit to be sure the active goes off
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>>163846292
Lightning Speed is a good one, yeah
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honk honk
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>>163847010
Yuck, EE art or bust
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>>163841621
thanks for the good luck anon i got the renee on my very next 1 draw lol.

so i got the renee now so do i swap her for akane and if i do should i just dump the akane she still is decent stats cause of the high superb?

also i got a dynames he worth using or not?
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I love Uriel!
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>>163847296
If i were you I'd go for something like this judging from the units i saw you have earlier, just pretend meta is serestia and yeon is shu. Dynames isn't worth using with the other units you've got. Use renee right away, at EE shes basically got the same stats as ur Akane anyway with a much better skillset
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>>163848271
Nice tabs
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They are the best, nodiscuss.
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>>163848303
how would you you build veronica? when i was using her before i found she was super squishie and would get ko so easily is it because i only have the basic evo no superb? is the totem worth it?

if i was to use her would you build her like action speed def reflex for the runes?
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>>163850508
Go for reflex, she can hold Silent Cold if you get one
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>>163843091
>>163843970
>they don't know he is the thundercuck
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>>163850508
Silent cold or Thousand watchers then just as much reflex as you can get on her. Her totems are very good. Ideally you'd prefer Elaine or Shura but Vero's the best you have for that position currently
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>>163849005
Where's your Irene?
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>decide to throw 1m on scouts because I'm a stupidfuck
>this happens
Sh-she's getting nerfed, right? I have a light/ardor team, but dual is irrelevant now, isn't it? H-help
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>>163852864
Even if they nerf her by half, she will still offer enough to be used. Is light/andor your main?
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>>163852864
Dual is still good. I switched to mono briefly before going back because I quickly realized the flexibility of being allowed 1 or 2 op off color units is to good
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>fight some whale teams with presty
>it's a literal three shot
I thought she was broken
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>>163852739
On bench.
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>>163851296
Can we stop this? Please? Honestly, you all take this shit way too far, that's why this is a dead general. Thunder is honestly the weakest element, but for the sake of sihtposting you all circulate this "thunderfag" and "thundercuck" nonsense.
Whenever someone brings up that thunder needs rebalancing to be competative they get shot down. Called names. This isn't what's supposed to happen when people discuss games they like. This is unacceptable. I don't care what any of you say. I'm out.
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>>163853173
Yeah. Have many of the ''cancer'' units from ardor, but both my legends are light. I guess I'll get her anyway.
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>>163854865
>this entire post replying to a shitpost
what
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>>163854865
(´・ω・`)
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>>163854865
>taking shitposts seriously
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>>163854865
The biggest thunder weakness are their Goalkeepers just like it is for Dark, but even so Thunder has better backline player than Dark.

By now everyone and their mother know their GK aren't good at all other than tanking shit like Uriel and Hiro, but they aren't the weakest element at all otherwise they wouldn't be seen more than monoDark that has only come to rise lately.
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>>163854865
Thunder has always been one of if not the strongest mono element and with ace burst just became even better. I'm not gonna go and say they're the best but you're delusional if you think they're weak in anyway at the current time
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>>163854865
>weakest element
>can nuke literally everyone in every meta with fucking leventor and BB always forgetting about him
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>>163855542
Worst was Leventor getting unnecessary buffs
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>>163855358
He's partially right. Thunder mono is consistent and powerful when you focus on it and is reliable if you have at least Bell. The problem with thunder is that every unit has visibly better rainbow alternative. This screws people's perception about it. WW based backline that fucks thunder over is also no help to this situation.
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>I was told Swimsuit Eve was useless because she would at best give 5* pengs
Look at this then
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>>163855173
>Thunder better backline than dark
literally what
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>>163854865
Seriously THIS. Thunder's gks are shit, thunder's strikers are shit, and thunder's midline is SHIT. Fuck all of you platinum shitters who think otherwise.
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>>163855914
Don't start it nigga, don't you dare to make me post the truth
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>>163855903
Cute albino otter thing
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>>163833256

I am trying out either a steal stone (pic related) or a crit damage stone on my Nera.

My crit stones have shit stats and I'm trying to find one with reflex on it.
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>>163856427

And here she is with a Crit stone that isn't quite +15.

The crit stone will give her more damage when people try to pen through her while the steal is obviously steal-only. The only nice thing with thesteal stone is that she heals 30% of the steal damage as it's secondary stat.

She can actually OHKO with a steal and fully heal whatever damage she took. But with the crit stone it give somethign like a bi of spirit instead.
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>>163856427
Post team, Nera-anon
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>>163855851
I was speaking purely in terms of mono, thunder is weaker when splashing with other elements since a lot of their strength comes from their ridiculous chains and units like Vero and Nerua. However, if I had the choice to avoid a single mono element team I'd pick thunder everyday of the week, the leventor ace burst teams are the ones I lose to the most for the past few weeks.
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>>163856646
looks good, but you should use the better nera skin to make it complete
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>>163856718

>Post team

I am ready to scout Duran soon but not sure where to put him. Khirel is consistently killing Elaine for me and kiki is the weak player in the back, but Jin needs her affection chain.

VF is also pissing me off and I want her off my team. I know she isn't +160 yet but she is absolute dogshit wouthout aside from her totem. I am tempted to move her to the opposite side which will kill her speed, so she won't ever get a turn and fuck everything up again.
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>>163856764
Yes, Lev can get ridiculous. He counters DR meta which makes him reliable striker for many situations. On the other hand, mono without Bell suffers the potential of easy defeat because it depends on mid and her chains. You also cannot reliably replace Lev with other striker except Vann whose getting nerfed since all other strikers are massive shit. Thunder backline is pretty much nonexistent.

If you have strong mid and can win the initial exchange, you have a high potential to win the whole match.
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>>163857451
Nice
But where's your Aslan?
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>>163857451
Your kiki is more usefull than you think. Basically your def gonna do some work only thanks to her additional speed totem. So dont bully her too much.
Totally agreed about VF tho.
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>>163857685

I don't have enough defenders to justify aslan.

Aslan doesn't do enough for attackers. If I did run aslan I would replace VF with Rudiel so I would have another reliable stealer with DR.
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>>163857467
yeah, assuming the mid is something along the lines of Cynthia-Bell-Lynia +/- freyja what usually happens is that I just get outsped and he gets 2 shots off which kills me before I can move. The thunder teams I have no problem against are the ones that try and stack at the back which just doesn't play to their strengths, they really need 4 mid or front
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>>163857451
>tfw you spot a WWbro
VF usually works well enough for me though.
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>>163856947
Finally someone with good taste around here. Can't stand all the nera skin plebs
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>>163858164
>t. furry
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Does Magnus resistance get countered by penetration or not?
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>>163858137

The problem with VF is that she tries to steal. Unlike nera or Meiran who can safely steal without taking much damage, VF often takes fatal damage from her steal attempt.

When you need to pen Mieran is getting through virtually anything short of a Duke with battalion + Silla ace. Anything VF can get trhough, Meiran can usually get through as well so it is redundant. breaking through is less valuable than meiran breaking through.

VF also can't stop a kevin breakout, let alone block a single victoira attack. She is just a suicidal wet paper bag sitting on the midline. I hate attackers on my mid for this reason. They just fuck up your whole teams effectiveness.

As I said before, her totems are lovely. I just wish she was a defender instead of an attacker and was a bit more like Victoira.
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>>163858164
Xing pls
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>>163855173
>>163855946
>falseflag shitpost as a crying thundercuck
>actual thundercucks take it seriously and reply
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stop thunder bullying, they are like /pol/ aussies here that just need attention
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>>163857451
Attackers in a nutshell.

Have you considered using battalion on VF? I'm still trying to find mine so can't test it myself.

Also nice to see another butt user, stay true to your waifu anon. Rerolled her dark to an ardor slot for the crit dmg? Would like to see how you build her.
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>>163859318
Battalion on VF won't really do anything, if you don't use FTS she'll be shit.
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so i did the changes the anon suggested and i did some more draws and i got a jacob, luka, leah and a dynames are any of them worth putting in the team?
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>>163859616
You could use Jacob at mid instead of Yuri and maybe Dynames in support slot for backline, his teamwide heal is decent and so is his skills overall, too bad he is a shota
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>>163859760
yuri is like 5 super no way hes better then her and i doubt jacob is worth investing into over my others right? also is it worth me saving all my 5 stars im not using or use em to 6 star my 5s im using
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>>163859580

Every attacker seems to be shit without FTS. It's such a one trick pony build.

VF is just in especailly bad spot since she stands across from victoira in 95% of matches.

Maybe if/when victoira is nerfed and peopel start exploring other midline players VF won't be such a let down.
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>>163859963
I'd advise keeping them for chains.
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>>163860018
what about using all my 4* copys is it worth to trade them up into 5s for specal material or does it cost a retarded about of gold
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>>163859991
She can run over everything but everything can run over too.
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What element has the best boys?
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>>163859963
FTS Jacob isn't that bad and he should prove useful for PvE later on
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>>163860227
dark
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>>163860127
Feel free to use all spares of those for ST material yeah. It's also a good idea to smash all of your shitty 2*s together and slowly ST them over time.
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>>163860313
ye i have been doing that for the luck for farming right hence why i had the max akane lol
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>>163859963
I learned the hard way not to use 5* you don't have dupes of on ST.
Save at least one copy of your useless 5*
You can easily get 4*, so use them without fear.

As for Jacob, he works better than Yuri in midline, and Yuri works better in backline than Yuran.
Leah is useless.
Luka can be more useful than Veronica thanks to her active shot and slowing enemy back
Dynames is shit in later game, but his heals and active can be useful for you now. Replace Akane for him.
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>>163860203

The problem is always Victoria. No midline player, not even duke comes close to being as good as her as guarding the sides.

It would be fair is she was just a glass canon with a good totem, but victoria has 30% + 15% DR making her one of the most durable midline players in the game outside of lightball. She is effectively dukes equal in both offense and defense (both will overkill on a pen) but unlike Duke she can revive her line.

With TB victoira can kill any dark player and most Duke/Beths with a normal pen. She is a top tier attacker, top tier tank, top tier reflex wall, and top tier totem. She can attack and steal without taking damage and has enough reflex to steal and enough "steal" to kill.

Elaine is the only other 5* in the game on her level.
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>nari daki
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>>163861274
>not Roina daki
Sam has shit taste
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>>163861483
>Sam
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How do I make an ultra cancer monodark team?
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>>163861017
I agree Victoria is stupid but are you assuming she's been passed to when you claim she OHKO's those units? Because normally she barely does half the hp of a duke/beth and that's without Silla ace
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>>163861697
Presty
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>>163860818
i get where you are coming from about yuran but pic related i know she doesnt give much buff wise but she is my best stealer in team by far cuttently and i wont be dumping upgrades into any of these 3 over my striker gk etc so im struggleing to drop her
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>>163861697
>SoB Ravian, DM Presty, Serestia and Alice
this is what you need
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>>163861697
you form an all-female team:

ravian or lucid/hamerus/shura
alice/meta/serestia
patty/lindberg/orses/verister
presty
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>>163861704

I sometimes get fed up and put my +160 metatron in front of victoria. Even she is OHKO somehow.

I've used Coh's team in clubs and his duke is raped by some victoiras as well. He has a very good duke near as I can tell. Victoia with TB just gets out of control so fast. Maybe it's 1 stack from being attacked and then 2nd stack when she finally attacks?

Either way I've seen her land consitent 1500+ pens on virtually anyone, and 900+ on dukes and metas.
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How do I make an ultra cancer monowhirlwind team?
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>>163862358
Jin, duran, shanti and never ever running into a monoardor team.
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>>163862358

Cancer implies you can bully any team, even ones your element is weak to. Currently only ardor and light are the teams with cancer potential.
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>>163862267
My Roina is always in front of her which for the most part ends badly, however if she manages to start with the ball usually pens through her no problem. I use Vic as well with TB, and while she's tanky as hell I see her kill more often on steal/being penned rather then when she does the penning
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>>163862358
Jin,Magnus Duran and Aiolos backline with Shanti as striker
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>>163862358
Linmay/Evylin/Shanti
Meiran/Neraizel/VF
Magnus/Kiki/Duran/Silk
Jin

This is probably the strongest monoWW can pull out. If you don't want to use Neraizel mid, you can move her to replace Evylin, move Silk to mid and put Miho/Saramir in the back.
Another option would be to move Linmay to back in front of the opponent striker, so that Jin has an extra 20% HP recovery on being shoot, and you can also recover your backline in manual.
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>>163862669

Yea most things explode when trying to pen through vic. That is TB's fault though.

TB needs to become "on shoot only' and put an end to it's bullshit as the universal stone for every leader and defender with an ardor slot. It turns anyone into William when holding the ball. Virgil too is dangerous to steal from because of that stone.
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I wanna buy Duran to make my Kei great, but what if they nerf Duran and buff Kei at balancing patch?
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>>163862932

Backline Linmay work well when Jin has rerolled into ST. Double hp recovery.
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Stones for Presty? I've been trying CR stones with DM because DR stones barely give anything unless it's the dark hp one.
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>Notice my gk is at -30% dr
>This is before Sharr has shot
>Active block on cooldown
Send paramedics.
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How do I make an ultra cancer rainbow team?
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>>163863174

I am saving my 900 DS for the balance patch. It has to be coming soon. People were expecting in and the devs know people are fed up and eagerly waiting for shit to get fixed (durangela).

Druran + angela could both be on the chopping block.
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>>163863386
Irre pls
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>>163863447
What about Choi, Jiho, Victoria, Metatrons reviving and elaine? They are balanced?
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>>163863423

Shura/Elaine/Striker
Choi/Meta/Vic
Durangela back

Or

Uriel or latios on Light/dark hybrid team (Typical light cancer supported by meta in mid, Shura up front and alice in back, or the new dark GK)
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>>163863689
I understand Latios being cancer but >Uriel is definitely not cancer. Gitgud.
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>>163863689
There is no place for Metatron in monolight. Just slap Le Sammy or (get ready) Muspel on CM and DukaBet on sides.
Here we go. Ez galaxy.
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>>163863541

Them too. Elaine and victoira are the most used players i nthe game, along with meta. They are soo good they invalidate the new ace burts that the devs were so proud of.

Victoira or Elaine alone bring more off-color advantages to a team than the benefits of any ace burst.
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>>163863689
personally I'd go:

Striker-choi-Elaine
Vic-Meta-Duke
Durangela
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>>163863871
EE heavenlybreasts when?
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>>163863820

Uriel is cancer at the top 0.01%. It is pretty much "Za warudo" team.
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>>163863871
Try to take them :^)
2k HP Duka and Beth are on the guard.
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>>163863820
>uriel
>not cancer
There's a reason why she got no changes when utility strikers were getting buffed
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>>163864216
Yeah because BB is awful at balance. She's almost unusable at this stage.
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>tfw no boobies
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>>163864516
Ardor/light beats it regardless, dumb thunderbaby
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>>163863334
DM, Dark HP, Blue def, green DR is what i've been using. Would like to try another dark HP if i ever get one
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>>163864516
I use """"DOWNFALL"""" and suicide myself. Then reincarnate without any debuff.
Defended.
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>>163863689
Durangela slighty better for winrates and more stable. Light goalies occasionally getting full comboed.
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>>163864829
Star Tears Kei is better than Isillia. Just asks for some investment.
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>>163864903
Star tears kei takes enough rerolls to be worth a new legendary, unless you're extremely lucky.
What's the best stone for Kei without slot rerolls?
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>>163864516
Alice debfufs should last for 15min at best
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>>163864983
>got SC renee first try
feelsgood for once
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>>163864516
Add ivy and silk for teamwide crits turned off. dont even need serestia.
>>163864903
>startears light goalie
It's like you want to be oneshotted twice in one shot.
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>>163864482
she's fine, you could run monolight uriel to galaxy if you wanted she's just worse than latios.
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>>163864983
It depends. Before DI meta there was CR-builded Kei with Silk e.t.c. Easy 230+ CR on 2nd shoot.
After DI meta there is only DR-builded Kei with, probably, DR-ace (Silla, Latios)
Picrelated, Ermaltion has 10% DR ghost-stats and light-HP has 7% DR stats too.
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>>163865321

Meta on Uriel team probably bring more to the team than an ace burst. Shura also lets Uriel push damage through so the match doesn't take a year.
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>>163865205
Fuck off thundercuck. Nothing can stop hypermaxed Leventor on steroids.
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>>163865546
I have a monolight right now, but if I get dstone for metatron would a light/dark with Baltheon instead of shura be decent?
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>>163865774
Baltheon >>>>>> Shura unless if you lacks critrate. Shura gives you ~90% critrate for free.
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>wake up
>no rainbow elementals
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>>163865901
Thanks. The other problem with this is I was gonna use the Dstones to buy beth, but is the uriel team still worth it with no beth but a Meta? Should I buy Beth as planned?
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>>163866108
Get Jibril and run Uriel-Jibril-Shura frontline :^)
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>>163866108

Beth is also vital for Uriel.
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>>163866402
Which should I choose? I have Baltheon, so a Met would allow a switch to light/dark. I have BI for the lightdarkace too but I don't think losing ace burst is worth splashing on just Baltheon.

Should I go Beth or Metatron?
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>>163866521

Metatron is universally good for all rainbow or 2-color teams you will ever make.

Beth is there mroe for monolight or light/dark.
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>>163866521
Do a roll.
1-3-5 - Beth
2-4-6 - Baltheon
7-9 - Meta
0 - Jibril
8 - uninstall.
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>>163866785
For only a monolight or dark/light, as I have no interest in any other colors.
>>163866793
Already have Baltheon and Jibril costs too much.
1-6 - beth
7-9 - meta
0 - uninstall
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>>163865589
Good Sharr, Willy, Beatrice and even 4 front Griffith if she crits, all capable of oneshotting light+alice back, unless you sacrifice something for shaman. But shes new star anyway. You don't really need more healing while you got light and meta heals. Even less with Latios as striker.
>>163866108
Get meta. Beth is not that important, sometimes mid is not even playing and she gets no turns. Meta always does her stuff, even when just dying.
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>>163867167
but im talking about Kei in rainbow backline, anon. Duran+Magnus+Virgil+Star Tears+Silk\whatever
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>Take 5-8 shots on average to take down enemy's GK
>they can beat my keeper in only 1-2 shots
>end up winning
Urielfagging is truly wonderful
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>>163866521
both are important. the extra action bar restoration from beth goes great with uriel but if you're not using meta then you're stuck using sammy cm or dynames as a front totem.
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>>163868180
>5-8
how about 13-eternity against Durangela?
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>>163868345
Faced 2 kevin durangelas earlier. First went to 45 with me winning, the second had him winning after shooting 4 times with Sharr.
How can I beat shit like this? bigger passes from my silla?
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>>163868180
Thats literally my whole game experience as ww\dark,
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>>163868541
How do you face players that can 2 shot you with the WW backline?
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How about just change attacker role to include 40% CAR. Wouldn't that allow attackers to diversify and not always be forced to go FTS
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>>163868696
this would literally destroy reflex as a system.
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>>163868672
With serestia and alice, then both of them faster than anyone else. And slaps enemy striker with serestia active before he even shoots,
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>>163868827
It would give attackers in general a fucking chance
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>>163868841
I worded my question like a retard.
I meant how are you getting 2 shotted when you're using a WW backline?
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>>163868971
I dont have duran,
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>>163868526
Choi/Elaine
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>>163869568
>7/11 cancer
No. You're a bandwagoner shitter, like 90% of the userbase
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Balance when? Im ready to bandwagon.
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>>163869643
Come on. Erica isn't that broken.

>i'm seriously considering running her as cm instead of sammy
>moving to mono if I get Jiho/Lia/Chiosuke? Chiyosuke? Jousuke?
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>>163869568
Good luck with the oncoming nerfs
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>>163864516
>No Haunting Gaze
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>Victoria's totem now affects ardor players only
How would the game change?
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>>163875029
For the better, but it there are bigger problems than Victoria right now.
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>>163869568
Almost there, just need DQ instead of Silk, unless you are doing really well against Dark strikers.

+it depends a lot if your William is well done and crits easily
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>>163875272
Nah, Victoria removal would kill most mid reflex and that would be great

And I am a disgusting bandwagoner using her since the MetaBeth mid
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Bb pls dont nerf victoria let me enjoy her a little more ples
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Think with me /ssg/, let's say out of nowhere BB finally buff Raklet and add high DR to her
>retarded high hp
>1k+ defense
>let's say she gets a 45% DR passive skill or active giving 45%DR/CR
How broken would she be? Those stats would be insane.
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>>163875029
You'd see more Duke/Meta/Beth and Duke/Meta/Choi mids. Some Borafag will use Victoria as a front totem and people will still say she's broken.

>>163875835
45% dr isn't enough, she'd still be bullied. Just invest in Robin if you want a real gk.
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>>163875835
You just described Jin in thunder form basically.
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>>163875541
Nerf her self buffs and make her reflex monoardor and she's good.
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>>163876105
>45% dr isn't enough
Flat 45% DR is quite effective and would be better than nothing for her

>>163876162
Jin gets a free pass because he IS a legendary goalkeeper, unlike Angela that is stronger than him while she is just a 5*
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>>163876632
Don't forget the rest of Jin's are totems, not selfish skills.
If not for that, he'd not only be very strong, but you could also use Saramir effectively in the back for totems and a way to bypass ardor niggery
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>>163876632
With all the DI and Pen right now it would not be enough, she'd still get exploded by Sharr, Shanti, and William so nothing would truly change.
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>a clubmate has meta, beth and serestia
>rest of team is literal shit
>it's obvious he can make it better, but he decided to go the retarded route and use shit like qiyou and sue and sammy support
Why shitters get the best luck?
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>Clubmate has lv70 Presty, club team has Ronald
>Clubmate has lv70 Lia, club team has kyosuke cm
>Clubmate is monothunder and have Levantor, put Blade as striker
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>clubmate has 0% pen leventor with bad crit rate
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>clubmate uses urinal
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>clubmate has a Guin that hits harder than your max TPU striker
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>>163879239
It's not a nice thing to lie on the internet anon
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>>163880314
>he doesn't know
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>>163880424
>he keeps lying
Webm or fuck off
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>>163879239
Are we in the same club anon?
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>>163880859
>less than 2k
Sharr does that with a single shot
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>>163881059
>what is elemental disadvantage+Magnus
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>>163881130
>implying that makes much of a difference to shit damage
So this is why thunderbabies cry so much about ww being overpowered, eh?
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Should my next legend purchase be william or serestia for an arodr/dark team? I'm also considering saving up for Presty but I'm not sure about that

I already have Choi, Shu, Jiho, Baltheon, and Meta
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>>163881535
Save up for presty and enjoy her EE in 2 months
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>>163881130
Not the baiter, but you really should have posted the stats, not the damage.
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>>163767770
thunders gimmick is power and reflex
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>>163881217
>being THIS stupid
Sharr deals 50% extra dmgs to GKs which pretty much ignores elemental defense, so obviously his Guin won't hit as good as Sharr.
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>>163881790
Literally, any striker can hit harder than 1.7k with Elaine, even Uriel.
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>>163881535
Presty.

You have a shit ton of good legends already.
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>tfw no dense magma for presty
I'm ok with PoME on her, right?
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>>163882039
>>163881613
My only concern is that presty doesnt benefit from DQs buff, so without DQ on the team I have no ace. I'm planning for the longterm when elaine gets nerfed
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>>163881535
Who is your current striker?
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>>163882304
Lucid
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>>163881790
>Sharr deals 50% extra dmgs to GKs which pretty much ignores elemental defense
not him but what's that supposed to mean
it's not like other standard buffs like crit damage care any less or more about elemental defenses
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>>163882198
She's fine with PoME really.

She's ridiculous with ST if you have the dick stones
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>>163882486
>not him but what's that supposed to mean
Extra dmg to GKs is the most stupid skill ever made, this is why Shanti, Griffith and Sharr are cancerous

You can hit quite high if you stack enough AP even with low pen, but if you get both high the damage will simply be too high
>50% extra dmg to GK
>all strikers have a natural 25% extra dmg to GKs
>it becomes 75% in the end
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>>163882903
that's not really what I asked, I'm being autistic over why you bothered adding "ignores elemental defense" when all other forms of damage buffs really don't give a shit about elements apart from a select few extra-damage-to-element shenanigans
but whatever
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>Scout lucy
>500 gp
>only at 3 superb so far
Should I
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>>163882903
also
>>all strikers have a natural 25% extra dmg to GKs
when did this happen
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>>163883206
I say she "ignores elemental defense" because it's like she almost "crit" without needing to crit, her self-boosts are just this good, if you were to put her and any striker with the same AP,crit dmg etc she would still win easily in dmg because of that skill
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>>163882556
Good for you!
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>>163883395
>when did this happen
It's been always there ever since the begin. Even in-game tips tell you that and you should notice that anyone that isn't a striker will deal less damage compared to a striker even if they have similar AP
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>>163883415
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>>163883518
apart from the striker positional bonus (which is less amusing than 25DI) and goalkeepers taking 1.5x shoot damage and 0.5x penetration damage, I don't know what you're talking about
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>>163883681
>people still have this shit
It makes me happy to be so talentless
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>>163883721
well, 0.7x damage from penetration
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Let me say it clear

SHARR NERFS WHEN
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>>163883852
>thinks sharr is broken
Fuck off wwcuckniggerbabybandwagonerfurryshittastepoorfagwhoreslut
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>>163883989
GRIFFITH NERFS WHEN?
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>>163883415
fucking evil
hope you die
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>>163884064
Whatever
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>>163884159
luka is disgusting, that one is ok
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>>163883852
Hopefully soon
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>playing soccer with heels
why
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>>163885165
To punish you.
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>>163881617
Keep in mind that club matches doesn't add in stat managers, regardless I think it's pretty good.
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>>163885390
That's better.
Now people will actually believe she's good for that.
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You guys told me ravian counters angela, but every angela I see has 40% ca resistance.
The fuck guys.
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>>163885390

That is pretty scary. that is like beatrice tier combat stats (but without the speed).

That DR is pretty sexy too.
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>>163886312
You're supposed to build raviane for damage and actually crit you fucking cuck, reflex stealing only occurs if you go monodarkie and have all the dark legends.
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>units with premium skins co-op more often than their skinless equals
woah.........
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>>163886515
Well thanks for lying to me fags
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>>163887425
np
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>>163887425
>believing anything people here say
The same crowd who said ww was broken, ardor is balanced and balance patch would be right after 7th patch
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>>163885390

More proof that any player in the game carried by Elaine is good.
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>clubm8s monoardor team defeats monodark team
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>>163888154
>falseflagging this hard
Fuck off dark is broken, and ww too.
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>>163888154

That should be routine. Ardor rapes all colors equally, including dark.
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>>163888154
>>163889045
>Monoardor
>Beating Presty in a decent Monodark setup
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>>163889201

Ardor players are only pretending to have trouble with Presty so they can play the victim and delay the long overdue nerfs.
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>>163889201
>that filename
Obviously falseflagging, though you were a retard for a second
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>MonoWW team loses to MonoThunder slutfest+Loserventor
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>>163890126
It's credible. There are some monstruous monothunder teams if they're constructed properly and give Lev a Scorching Inferno or two, like every striker should nowadays
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>apocashit stone guide doesn't even recommend FTS on VF and instead says to go for reflex
Why did I even bother checking. How to stone her?
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>>163890363
FTS/green critdamage/blue pen or crit/dark pen
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>thunder slut mids still move faster than IC can ever dream off
>atb still cannot be recovered beyond 80%
FUCK YOU BB. Literally only thunder and WW benefit from this atb cap. Bring back 100%/0% atb recover/destroy or make it fair by rescaling speed modifiers to never reach beyond +/-15%
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>>163891494

That would make Uriel even more powerful. Light would be unstoppable and they are bad enough already.
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>>163891494
End yourself, Urielfag.
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>>163891494
Every time I see someone bitch about this, I can tell they didn't play during Milky's reign of cancer.
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>>163891614
>>163891639
>>163891689
>t. thunder/WW fag whos units move three/four times before enemy unit can do anything

We deserve to have our infinites just like you guys have your excessive speed.
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>>163890345
WoM Leventor is almost as bad as Sharr.
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>>163891990

>Implying WW never abused it back in the day with infinite Miho
>4 to 6 back-to-back attacks filling entire spirit bar to pay for her active while entire enemy position drops to 0 spirit and AB
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>>163892225
It's not abuse if WW does it.
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>>163892368

At least miho looked cute and soft while doing it.

Milky made everyone want to punch her teeth down her throat.
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>>163892225
To be fair, other elements abused Miho more than WW.

She was most commonly used in rainbow teams, barely anyone was running WW when Miho first came out because WW in Q3/Q4 2015 was kinda in the same position that Thunder is in now.
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>>163891614
>btw i run mono
Why aren't you using Gaphyl and Virgil like all the other good goys?
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>>163892225
>ww abusing
>not the general gamebase abusing, just like elaine, victoria, kevin, angela, gaphyl, virgil, silla and meta
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>>163892771

I am hoping balance patch makes it so healers only heal HP and not AB.

That would make the world a better place in a hurry.
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>>163891998
I'm yet to see one working.
Most I've seen is SHoT with double SI
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>>163891689
i can't complain, she helped me get alice the first time around
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>>163892910
I'd be ok if they heal only 10 or 15% atb and can't exceed the cap.
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>>163893234

That would also let them rebalance PvE so they can move away from "fill frontline to 100% AB with healers an then do OHKO combo with sharr + Elaine"
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>>163893356
>Nerf every other mechanic to avoid nerfing sharr/elaine
Sasuga BB!
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>>163893490

No them too.

PvE should have been all about puzzle solving and not OHKO brute force tricks and basic AB stacking.
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>>163893131
They don't stack anymore anyway so Kevin Milky will no longer work. If anything atb recover skills that does not have a prerequisite, eg. Quick start, should not exceed 20%

>>163892910
>and both will still cost 200 spirit
and its no longer abusable
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>>163893619
This
But on BBs defense, it's easier to OHKO than to actually think
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>>163893619
>and make rainbow rain supreme in both PvE and PvP!

Hahahaha! Yes. I actually agree because monos can still bully the CoD champs and have good advantage against color specific CoT floors.
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>>163893356

18 months ago this was the instant win combo to solve all PvE threats in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKxFrc4ymCM

A year and a half later and BB have not found a way to deal with this cookie cuck OHKO combo besides ramping up enemy stats. This ends up punishing people who had other means of winning but they never managed to curb the Sharr-Elaine combo.
>>
Is there any dark or ww player that can replace Elaine or is at least close to her?
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>>163893619
This would also promote generally
>better over all TA > better CoD performance

Its disgusting to see 7k teams reach floor 47 when you have a hypermaxed team unable to beat 36 with brute force.
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>>163893943
What the hell are those things that the characters have on them?
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>>163893976

Nope. No legend in the game even comes close to Elaine's performance, let alone any 5*.
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>use friend choi in backline
>pass
>pass says it increases 50%
>player speed increases from exactly 50 to 82
And there's people who say this shit isn't rigged? It's bullshit
>>
Or we could just leave CoD alone.

It really isn't that difficult. Get a Neraizel, Askeladd and then invest in Sharr, Ravian and Shanti.

Fucking around with CoD can make our previous investments be for nothing.
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>>163893619
>puzzle solving
Matches should be more like Guardenia's, Aslan, RE and BHS
Those were fun and refreshing, now it's all "kek sharr elaine and win xd"
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>>163894231
They already made our 4* investment and special player investment useless.
Why not CoD investment? That's how you get money in a justifiable way
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>>163894247

I beat original Aslan with a normal beatrice team by getting the GK alone and then finishing them on a solo shot. When Aslan match returned I could not isolate and kill the GK and sharr-Elaine (or double Elaine) is what everyone used instead.
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>>163894247
Guardenia was just sharr double elaine though
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>>163894231
No. All the cheezing units like those deserve to die. (You) too bandwaggoner scum.
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>>163894231
Why is it always you PvEfags that are against change?
>M-muh clears!
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>>163894443
This is what I used the first time.
It was a reminder on how to beat her to get a superb, now it's a memento of a now lost era
>>163894507
Look at that thread, lots of people beat it without that, and one even with a meme monodark team
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>magnafest is extended
Take care of the thread while I'm gone, /ssg/.
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>>163894231
>Fucking around with CoD can make our previous investments be for nothing.

Good. You abused cancer and milked 10 DS and 100 crystals every week for the past 2 years.

Your "investment" already paid off long ago.
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>>163894515
You're being retarded. If you gut those, people will just another standard method for CoD. It doesn't benefit anyone if everything gets gutted on a cycle.
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>>163894102
Those are the borders you used to get when you were ST'd. They were removed when they added the club suits.
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>>163894615
the meme team ones were done with 50%+ enervation so it doesn't really count
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>>163894640
It benefits BB and people who don't have those past cheese units but do have enough for a new strategy that works, faggot.
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>>163894640
Thats right. And continued adjustment of CoD to a minimum of 90 days/PvP season to gate bandwaggoners like (You) will make the game more friendly towards unit fags who take good care of their units instead of bandwaggoning every x new unit.

In addition to making you frustrated and force you to cash more.Hire me BB!
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>>163894774
So you're saying that you, with PvP invested units, deserve to be able to climb higher than me, with specific CoD invested units?

Great logic
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>>163895061
>implying implications that were never implied
Hello, non-sequitur
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>>163895126
There's always going to be a standard set of top-tier CoD units. Rather than crying about them being "cheese", why don't you invest in them instead of crying about your PvP team being shit for it?
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>cot 5*
>haru
Nice ST.
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>>163895339
I don't think you understand the point being made here.

No one is saying that there shouldn't be units that are strong in PvE, the issue is that players like Sharr and Elaine are able to negate the more puzzle like elements of CoD and CoT by brute forcing everything.
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>163895339
>answering to things that were never said like he's making a point
No (You)s for you, shitter
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>>163895367
fuck you
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>>163895494
sadly BB is retarded and the """puzzle""" ends up being a 10k hp gk with 5k heals on shoot making balth sharr the only viable option
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>>163895494

Sharr and Elaine can also do it while simultaneously being top tier PvP and PvE units. You don't have to compromise or invest in different players like other teams do.

Elaine is on 100% of top PvE teams and 90% of top PvP teams. She is a magic key for any lock.
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>>163894902
CoD-wise, it can't be helped. there is too much emphasis on score that people who rank for top 50 spots each week have to compete based on that alone if they want to be in x crystals club, so they're not going to stop using whatever works best for them.

CoT is actually a bit more lax because you don't really have to compete against others, so you can use whatever screwed up formations with whatever units you want if you can make it work. there's definitely a lot more different formations to doing higher level CoT than CoD so far even though meiran is usually in most of them

>>163893671
yes? i already know that
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How is it I have multiple ardor crit damage stones and have never even seen a single thunder pass stone to date?
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No dead /ssg/ thread is complete without Lynbell & Thanatos!
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Who is the best on color EBM holder for a Dark/Light front?
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>>163901306
Celus with a stone reroll and damien striker

Dont tell anyone else.
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>>163895869
But Elaine is barely used in CoD and even CoT
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>>163896484
Anyone can translate? And is that Amaranth?
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Is it just me or are Jibril and Presty just on another level compared to the other new legends? Jiho is good but those 2 are just ridiculous, I didn't even realize Jibril's active cooldown was only 6 minutes.
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>>163903161
Powercreep.
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>>163903161

I have yet to see any new legend match Choi.
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>>163903161
Surprisingly reflex Ravian shits on Presty.
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>>163903161
the more jibrils i see the more i think she might be the strongest pvp legend. we're lucky she's ugly so the whales went after presty instead.
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Boobies for next OP please
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>>163904884
jibril is better looking than presty
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>>163904925
I prefer floatybra / pasties
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>>163905387
Now that's just a weak bait.
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>>163907528
>>163907528
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