AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

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It took me only about two hours to create this funky little Paddle War clone, totally in GML, without any outside tutorials except for the F1 help and one Stack Exchange question. Considering that I just started learning Game Maker the other day, I feel pretty good completing my first "game."

I gotta say, at least at the basic level I'm working at, Game Maker is an incredibly simple tool to use. There are so many built-in functions to handle images and object movement, and it's so much easier than the Java I learned and forgot in the one serious CS course I've taken in college so far.

I think I should do some tutorials and then start making my dream game - once I come up with an idea.

Reminder that the indepocalyspe does not exist, and there is no data otherwise

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The cockpit hatch now opens and closes. Yay. Added a button for it too. Also since the hatch material is opaque, it does some electric shit or something (the tech babble will be added later) when it closes and makes fully it transparent.

>>163696716
It does exist, it's just another name for requiring a basic level of competency.

Fortunately Steam went in the opposite direction and now you can just make shit games to get in on Valve's trading card racket

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Last time on agdg

>>163696994
Cant read the small ones

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merry christmas
or happy xmas break i guess

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The Lord has blessed me this day with a completed retopo. It cost me some sanity, took me 12 hours. It was too much for my skill level but I learned a lot about topology and could do it faster next time. I think most of the topo here is animation capable, but I wonder about the shoulder. the face topo is not remotely animation friendly but I do not plan to animate the face.for similar reasons I went with oven mitt hands. I may have bit off more than I can chew as is. Assuming I can get this guy textured and rigged I will use him as the protag in my game. ASSUMING

>>163696696
gg

welcome to the club of having ambition but will never finish anything.

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>>163696994
>>163697049
Fixed.

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>>163697508
Actually no. Last try then I kill myself.

>>163697508
This one is fine

>>163697827
>Well first guy hard talk next copy sale quit
kek

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Google Drive folder update special Christmas edition, where nothing really Christmasy happens, other than me saying Merry Christmas at the end of the post.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfb3hKSlhRRzlLbFE

- RPG UI examples
- Low poly examples
- More Tender Arms fan art
- Square dev's new character (Viking Girl) received the usual fan art what Square dev characters usually get
- Christmas greetings (the one in the post is from Theonian)
- New fan fic for Charlotte, Vampire girl and Bunny idol (also put the fan fics to their own folder, rather than separating them by games)
- Waifu breeder dev shared his sprites (106 to be precise), so I saved them for reasons
- The misc folder also got bigger like usual (please, if you aware of the author or the game where a given picture belongs to, let me know)
- Set up a change log file in the root directory, so you can follow the changes there if you happen to miss these posts (the name of the file will always contain the date of the latest update)

Merry Christmas!

>>163697827
>anon gets steam add
HOLY SHIT

Can I have some insight about fragment shaders. Do's and donts? Any suggested reading?

>>163696994
good work don!

>>163697936
life and times of googum.txt

>>163698147
https://thebookofshaders.com/

>float smoother
Any good synonym? Something sexy if possible.

>>163697170
Should make one where they are shooting the tree then when it SHOULD explode it instead opens its hellmouth and starts lumbering towards them as they haul ass away.

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How's does idle animation look?

>tfw all these gameplay ideas but no story ideas

>>163698918
very awkward, you probably want something that has a circular motion and doesn't just look like an obvious back-and-forth between keyframe A and keyframe B.

>>163698918
You're trying to make it too realistic. overdo it.

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>Fixed collision detection up by optimizing as much as I could think of
>Hundreds of objects now don't crash the game to < 30fps
>Clusters of objects don't massively increase performance problems anymore
p-progress...!

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+item
-+equipment item
--+headgear
--+body armor
--+leg armor
--+weapon
---+sword
---+axe

Does this make sense for an inheritance relationship? I also might have to make item inherit from ScriptableObject

>>163699671
Literal loot sponge. nice

>>163699871
Loot Pinata's gonna work this way:
>Most loot is going to be common items with simple classification (weapon, armor, potion, gem, etc)
>Loot has a small chance to upgrade in quality and value repeatedly to a maximum limit
>Upgraded loot won't fall into a classification bucket but be treated as unique

What's a good way to make upgraded loot drops look "juicy" when they drop? I want the player to feel like "OH SHIT I gotta go pick that up"

>>163697028
The good thing about code though is, that once you have prototyped a game, you can reuse this code again and again for other games, which saves a hell a lot of trouble.

With art you always have to almost start from scratch.

>>163700037
sparkles, guaranteed to be on top of other items, special tint vs. regular items of same type

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>>163700037
Should be shiny in some way. Have the item look like that instead the character, and people will notice it.

What's the point of this
http://poal.me/694nau

>>163700556
I'm not clicking on a link when I have no clue what it is

>>163700631
>I have no clue what it is
your new is showing

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Hey agdg does anyone remember this game? I made the demo a year or so back and completed development for the whole game a few months ago. I've got it on itch.io if anyone is interested:

https://fyndr.itch.io/terrier

>>163698918
try not to move all the limbs at once, also your pose is a little off balance

>>163700750
I'll keep that in mind

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any suggestions for attacks or behavior?

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>>163700037
other than looks, sounds are pretty powerful as evidenced by Diablo 3

Otherwise I would suggest a 'gleam' animation/effect

>>163701141
unholy festering fart rips a hole in the ozon layer, blasting the area with radiation. The smell has a chance of making characters nauseous being forced to skip a turn until they recover.

>post progress
>0 reply

>post advice
>1 meme reply

>ask question
>0 reply

I'm just waiting to get pissed enough so I can eventually leave this place.

>>163699671
I thought you wanted to stop enging

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>>163701703
>getting pissed because of the internet
Anon...

>>163701703
maybe your game isnt interesting enough

>>163701815
Pic intended for >>163700631

>>163701141
This looks cool anon.

>>163696696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDl_R8Zp2E

>>163698037
Thanks man!

I'm going to implement melee weapons today!

>>163703056
good luck anon!
i'm gonna continue doing nothing today!

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how do you guys handle scaling the screen in your games? so far ive handled it by drawing everything to a canvas/framebuffer and then scaling that buffer. this works well for pixel art and it means that i only have to worry about 1 resolution. but how do you do it when you want things to be higher res when they're scaled up? for example, a font, instead of being scaled up, you would just use the same font but with bigger size. is the only way to deal with this by doing math on everything and placing it manually on all resolutions you care about or is there a better way?

>>163701759
Yeah but... it's so fun....

>>163703130
Internal low resolution everything is rendered in. Everything.
Nearest neighbor scaled up with black bars as needed.

>>163703346
that doesnt work for anything that isnt pixel art

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I plan the to spend the next year doing environment art and trying to make a horror game.

Was just wondering, do people buy horror games?

I could also just make a zelda clone.

Focus on UE4, Modo and Substance try to make a horror game.

Take art from wind waker, try to make a zelda clone, but with procedural generation or something.

I cannot decide which to do

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---More progress--

Added spike traps.

Anyway, the game loop is very much like Dragons Crown. You got a couple of levels that you replay for loot and upgrades etc.

You got a spaceship, you jump into a black hole that takes you to medieval times.

I haven't actually done the loot part for weapons or whatever... just upgrade items (gems etc). Thinking of having some sort of RNG boost thing you can do before the levels to boost damage.

>>163698918
Is this for a platformer? I've to agree with the others, it looks a bit awkward. Is it based on something, like another game's idle animation?

>>163703569
With the upcoming zelda game on the switch, a game like that is probably popular right now.
I don't really know about spooky games, it's a niche.

>>163703130
You mean like normalized coordinates where instead of using 0 to 1080p as coordinates you use 0.0 to 1.0 where 1 is full right then you multiply the coordinates by the resolution to get the coordinates at that resolution

I'm working on an open-world Roguelike in GMS. I'm using DS grids for the map and I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a way to save map pieces in a text file and import them into the game, basically the way that Cataclysm DDA does it.

I can write them out piece by piece in the DS grid, but I'd rather save them in a visual format and convert them in game.

>>163701703
>meme reply is source reek guy

>>163699825
please respond

>>163700754
looks fun but i don't have windows and it crashed when i tried to run it in wine

>>163697236
Nice anon puttin in that work

>tfw about to buckle down and make a few hundred sprites

Drawing clothes is fun!

>Christmas family dinner
>whole family finds out I've been trying to dev
>"Oh shit you're gonna be a millionaire!"
y-yeah, h-hah
dev was a mistake

>>163704682
>look herd leader i posted it again!

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>>163703096

>>163703569
excitement i guess, but i wouldn't know cus i'm too much of a pussy to play horror games.
The only reason i WOULD actually play a horror game is when the story is really good.

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>>163704747
lmao all my family is web developers and knows theres no money in computers

>>163704750
lol'd

>>163704759
looking good anon!
i watched 4 episode of fullmetal alchemist and played some overwatch.

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How can I import this spacedock obj model?
I read you just have to drag a material on it, but it doesn't work.

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>>163704682

>>163703130
I tried doing subpixel fonts in a few mockups but eventually ended up deciding that it looked bad
Here was the technical outline for what I was going to do though
Instead of rendering to the canvas, when I want to add ui fonts, I just push everything to a love2d text object (you could simulate the same thing with just a ringbuffer and message/position/width pairs)
then, for rendering:

if subpixel then
> scale(2x)
> draw(canvas)
> draw(text)
else
>canvas:render( text )
> scale(2x)
>draw(canvas)
end

>>163704682
At least it's not source.jpg

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when is winteru jam?

>find thread of anubis devs game on another forum

welp, I guess hes about to make it

>>163705416
>furry artist with an existing following and a knack for designing appealing characters makes it
wow consider me surprised

>just got an IBM Model M keyboard

I... I can finally make game now...

>>163705416
link

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>>163704862
I fucked up!

>>163703504
why encourage mixels and shit
just make a low res font

>>163706179
made me kek

>>163706179
Bokube-level animations

>>163706179
is this game about propeller dicks?

>>163706179
swordcopter propulsion

add it as a feature /right now/

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>>163706179

>>163703130
I just zoom the camera in, anon.

>>163706179
Shakedown mode

How much would it cost to pay someone in the Far East to create a set of pixel art sprites?

For argument's sake, a 2D kicking boxing game.

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Do you think I could make a walking simulator in the style of FF12 or Vagrant Story? I'm good at simple low poly stuff.

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>>163706179
I have also had a problem.

>>163703569
>procedural generation
>zelda clone
No one plays Zelda for the core gameplay

>>163708040
wait... zelda has a story?

>>163708297
It has level design and puzzles

>>163708446
oh
so no story

Anyone know what the best function to use in GML for code that alters the view once the player's mouse hits/nears the edge of the game window (in window mode or full screen)? Would window_get_mouse_x() work for both?

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Merry Christmas, here's some new weapons.

Not pictured was a lazer weapon that I'm not too happy with thus far because I feel its too slow. All suggestions for new ones are more than welcome.

Tomorrow I can go back to working on my puzzle game. I had to think about how to make it fun, and I remembered that StarCraft 2 mode/map I loved where you play Bejeweled and can spawn units with points. Can I just steal that idea? I need something to put pressure on the player

>>163709160
You gotta scale that webm up bro.

>>163705593
consider yourself salty

>>163705416
open google, type 'anubis and', look at its autocomplete suggestions, then check out the first few results

>>163709317
shit, I didn't realize it'd become a webM for ants, will upload a bigger one later.

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How the fuck can I make it so in the animation window, that the wire to set keyframes is not so incredibly wide?
I have to scroll ages to get to a 2 minutes mark or whatever.

>>163707769
we are united in our autism

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>>163710293
Can I join?

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Progress?
Happy holidays guys.

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Hey, it's me again; given the success of the last two times I posted here with trying to find people to help out on specific parts of my games, I figured I'd see if I can have success a third time.

What I'm currently looking for is two things;

1) A sound effects/foley artist, to do a wide variety of sound effects across all of the games I'm working on. Would be paying between $3-15 a sound effect, depending on complexity/length (you'd set the pricing, not me). You would be doing SFX for Future Fragments, Internal Interrogation, and Reclaim Reality. As an extra note to this, any of the SFX you create for these games you'd also have the license to use in your own creations or other projects; we don't want/need exclusivity on them.

2) A GUI artist, to do the GUI for Reclaim Reality (where the background in this picture is from). I have an entire document laid out with examples, references, what we specifically need, that sort of thing. (Ideally, you'd be able to do a logo for the game, too, but that's just a bonus.) Would pay a rate I'd negotiate with you, but for the initial, core GUIs (there'd be multiple ones) we'd need for the game, we would be paying at least $750-$1,000, and then we'd also pay down the line for extra GUIs we'd need for the subsequent boss battles (as each one is in a different aesthetic/gameplay style).

As a note, all the games are 18+ games.

If you're interested at all, please contact me at [email protected] with some examples of your work, as well as how much free time you have to work/how long it would take you to complete a sound effect or GUI on average.

(To be clear, I'm looking for two separate people here; I'm not wanting someone who can do GUI *and* SFX because I figure that not only would that be a rarity, it'd also overtax you with too much work. Feel free to apply regardless though if you do specialize in both of those.)

>>163710681
I'm just making sprites. I'm trying to at least do 96 sprites today.

I'm currently stuck with a Linux toaster (that can't handle modern Windows at all) because my PC broke. I don't want to be doing nothing and rusting during this period. What are my options for devving? So far all I could find was LOVE, is it alright to use?

>>163710820
There's always monogame, too.

>>163710687
>Would be paying between $3-15 a sound effect, depending on complexity/length
>(you'd set the pricing, not me).

>>163710867
Don't I need VisualStudio to use that?

>>163710890
Do you not have reading comprehension?

>>163710820
godot

>>163710940
No, bro. You can use Monodevelop or just use the compiler directly. VS is the ideal option, but beggars can't be choosers.

>>163710961
>Would be paying between $3-15 a sound effect, depending on complexity/length
>(you'd set the pricing, not me).

>>163710890
Okay, since I guess that wasn't clear;
I'm saying we would pay, at minimum, $3, and at maximum, $15 per sound effect.
You, the creator of the audio, would choose whether a given sound effect was worth $3, or $4, or $8, or $12, or $15, or any other amount in between those two numbers.

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>>163710687
>$3-15 a sound effect
>18+

GET PAID TO MAKE SEX SOUNDS!!!!!!!!

>>163711147
So you are retarded then. Even if he sets limits on the price, you still would choose the price of the sound effect. He doesn't understand sound design enough to set the price, so he's limiting you while giving you a good range of pricing options which are still YOUR CHOICE. I swear people in here are the most semantic idiots I've ever seen. "Wow I can't say this sound effect is 100 dollars! That must mean I have no choice at all!"

>>163711382
here's a choice: you can
1) Leave
or
2) Fuck off

it's up to you :)

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>one man army
>already doing code, textures, models and animation
>got me some FLStudio for christmas

The circle is finally complete.
If now I only knew how to music.

>>163711538
Nice comeback, bro. :^)

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Everyone's on holidays and because of that I can't find a job to do.
I am doing pixels(pic related) and looking for work
If you are interested my email is [email protected]

I also made a small game, you can check it out here https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B18iT5biNgtqa0lIOWVnU0lGaDA/view

>>163711382
hi i want you to make a mmo for me ill pay you between 10 and 20 dollars but you can decide the price ill pay when the game is finished you like making games right this is easy for you

>>163711641
if only i was this good at art :(

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>>163711614
>tfw can make music if I know the general notes but I can't compose for shit

>>163711641
is that.... heides tower of flame?

>>163711641
do you work for free? :)

>>163711759
>tfw cant read music sheets nor compose properly

Huh... should have done something else than going to school learning useless bullshit during my childhood.

Wish I had at least learned one instrument.

Or alternatively gotten kinda good at drawing. Cause that's also some shit I'm struggling with.

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>>163711382
This, pretty much.

>>163711380
Also this.

I should also note that for sound effects, I'll be recording in-game footage as best as I can (if possible) of all the things that would need sound effects, so you'd have a visual example to go off of for your sound effect.

For example, for Future Fragments, I just shot a video showing the following;

- different SFX for icicle sizes
- ambient noises in the snow level (wind whistling, frosting over of surfaces)
- laser charging up, and laser blast for the tall celdost
- hitting the guard celdost's shield with a shot and it charging up
- the guard celdost thrusting forward with his javelin
- the small celdost smashing the ground with his club
- a "chain moving" sound for the moving platforms, like what you see at ski lifts
- fire burning for the fires in the level (would be a sound that would get stronger as you got near it)
- new charge shot effect
- new regular shot effect
- molten rock/fire dash
- hitting an icicle to drop it from the roof

I'd estimate that an SFX artist would probably stand to make at least $5,000 off of the SFX between the three games, if not more, over time.

Probably around $3,000-$4,000 over time for the GUI artist, as well.

>>163710687
Also, since this wasn't said in the original message, and people are doing semantics, we'll pay you immediately after you have the SFX done, not once the demo comes out, or the game comes out, etc.

The initial GUI payment we'll likely have to split up into two payments; half during the month you get it done, and the other half the next month. All subsequent GUI payments would be done the month you completed the work.

(Sprite attached is from Reclaim Reality, also.)

>>163712005
Dwelling in the past will get you nowhere anon. Look forward.

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>>163712063
>- laser charging up, and laser blast for the tall celdost


What kind of sex game is this you fucking weirdo?

>>163711641
How much do you take in monies? Or are you doing this out of kindness? I really need to make a nice atmopshere in my game which i think means i need a bg or tiles if you are interested.

>>163711942
Kinda sorta
>>163711946
no :^(
>>163711714
Thanks anon, don't worry, just keep practicing and everything will be alright.

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Can some Blender+Unity expert explain to me why the object constraint is not carrying over to Unity? Look at the sword, it should move with the back bone but it doesn't.
The weird thing is that I used the same type of constraint for the helmet, and that one works.
Excuse the shit framerate, my toaster can't handle blender playing an animation while unity is in play mode.

>>163712256
Price depends on difficulty of the job. Send mail and we'll discuss.

>>163712507
I didn't think any constraints carried over, but I could be wrong. It would probably be easiest just to have the sword be a child object of the back bone you want it to move with.

>>163712247
One with actual gameplay, branching storylines, etc.

We're making games that have sex woven into the game's storyline and gameplay, but the gameplay/storyline isn't taking a back seat to the sexual parts; we want to make actual, solid, entertaining games. There's a (fairly old) demo of Future Fragments on Newgrounds if you want to look it up.

>>163712805
>teasing dicks
not sure man

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I feel like that red robot from futurama

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>>163698037
>christmas greetings folder
>dino girl delivering a gift isn't in it

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>Have to make a good a game so one day I can at least have fans that wish me a merry Christmas
>This is happening

Cmon Blender, dont give up on me your going down to 8 now!

>>163714091
F

>>163714091
I'm terribly sorry. Could you, please, repost it, or give me the link to the original post? I always scan trough the threads when I get home, but sometimes I make mistakes like these. ;_;

vagina jam when

>>163714462
Scoop it out of your mother's

>>163698037
>See my old game in the Ancients

Oww.

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>>163698918
here's my idle loop, note how the cycles are delayed. try raising the chest too to simulate breathing

>>163714375
you're great >>163643724

>>163707572
If it has a nice narrative/story with nice stuff to look at then sure.

>>163714462
Please never use the term "vagina jam" ever again

>>163714612
>tfw making a rpg and you can't even afford idle animations.

>>163697236
I was expecting that to be the "before" topology, to be honest.
You're wasting an insane amount of polygons.

>>163714612
That hat needs more detail. At times it looks like a white bakers sock.

>>163714462
>Meanwhile, in bizarro /agdg/
>Normie-infested subreddit is unironically holding menstrala jam
>But at least they've managed to get rid of sourcefam

>>163715142
Pretty sad to think that only in a bizarro universe we'd be able to get rid of the literally insane shitposters.

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>>163715112
does it look better ingame?

>>163715317
Good thing I'm only ironically insane

>>163713819
what in the world does this even mean/refer to?

>>163714612
Uploaded! And thanks for the present, dino lady.

>>163715423
Not him, but I think it's because there's a saying, "If you remember the story of a porn, you obviously didn't enjoy it."

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>>163698037
Theonian here,

Thanks for doing this!
Merry Christmas, faggots!

>>163715379
Try adding ridges at the bottom like a real chefs hat, it kinda merges with the head

>>163695467
Has anyone written classes to make opengl easier.
Basically a class the takes a VBA and and shader program with a draw method.

I wrote a project recently by hard coding it all, but now that I've learned more I want to make it more expandable

>>163715493
Well, then we're out to challenge that viewpoint by making games with porn in them that have actually entertaining gameplay/storylines while still having quality porn :P

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>>163715629
hmmm it might work, I used to have ridges on the top half but I didn't like them, at the bottom it might be subtle enough. thanks

>>163715878
Sfml mate

>>163715934
No problem man, the game look really good btw

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ahh yes

0-7 : More Whisky
8-9 : Dev

>>163716112
>not doing both

>>163716112
>>163716351
WHY CAN'T I JUST BE A FUCKING NEET AND DEV
stupid job

>>163696696
good start. now make limitations and say "i'll make pong but won't do it with collision events for score"

then solve that problem

>>163716453
I feel you
>At weekday after work:
"Nah im done, just get some sleep"
>Weekend
"I need to relax at some point..."
>Sunday night
"I did nothing all week again..."

...I'll grab a beer

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Christ, why is my performance so bad in Unity?
Is this normal to get such fps drops for merely having such an object in the room?

Does anyone know a way to fix this, without having to delete the objects?

>>163712507
Helmet bone might have gotten one or the other keyframe.
Can't tell from the webm

But generally it is probably good practice not to rely on something that might be blender internal only. The engine might e.g. handle interpolation differently, giving you jiggly animations and similar shit like that (had that on unreal a while ago).

Go to your keyframes, mark all bones and hit "I" for locRot.
That way all the bone positions are 100% clear on export.

>>163681631
Go for it, it's fun to play with GOAP. Even if you make something not suitable for a simulation with high amounts of agents, it's a very valuable learning experience.

>>163712792
some constraints get applied on export, others are just ignored

>>163712507
I'd personally just parent the sword to the bone in unity, you're going to have to do that anyway if you want to switch weapons

it's how dino girl picks up things

>>163716841
How many verts does that thing have?

>>163717756
No idea, but I guess too many for my lappy.

>>163718182
Apparently
Kinda looks like a high poly mesh to me.
Could be wrong though.

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>>163718182
click on the object's mesh in the lower left project files menu, and look for pic related

>>163718381
look at all those thin curved bits... i think the polycount on that is seriously high

>almost done implementing customizable controls
wtf i hate user friendliness now

>>163716841
>>163718182
Just click the "stats" button in the upper right of the game window, it looks like you're running millions of tris which is kind of bad practice.

>Have 3 screen resolution options
>One is Fullscreen but it slightly stretches the pixels
>This makes the all female cast slightly thicker but it still looks pretty alright

I am okay with this. It wasn't horrible distortion like I thought I would end up with. Surfaces for whatever reason are a no go because of how I draw things but honestly I think everything will be fire (I put small red text under the fullscreen option warning of possible pixel stretching if selected).

>>163719080
Its a bitch but its a necessary bitch.
"Games" without customization controls are shit

>>163719080
What's so hard about it?
1. Make the logic respond to abstract events/state like "jump" or "left" rather than "space" or "A".
2. Translate concrete input data to abstract input data based on a configuration.
3. Allow the player to change the configuration.

>>163719774
Have you done one?

It's a bitch

>>163720074
Yes and I've never found it particularly challenging.

>>163720161
I don't think anyone said it's challenging, it's a bitch, i.e. long and monotonous, especially with 10+ buttons & gamepad support

>>163720161
well, then i guess your penis is bigger than mine

>>163720274
What's tedious about it?

>>163720315
It's a lot of buttons

>>163720392
But they all behave the same insofar as translating concrete input to abstract input goes.

>>163720392
Also if you want that juice you need branded controller icons, multiple binds, modifier keys.

>>163720274
Not him, but it's not bad if you know what you're doing.

http://pastebin.com/X31gPnv0

Making a screen to actually mess with it is way harder.

control configuration guy here: im at the point where you can go on the menu, select a key, and then ?

im not sure how i should be handling getting the input (im using gms). should i just use keyboard_lastkey once the button is selected?

>>163720787
>Making a screen to actually mess with it is way harder.
I thought that's what we were talking about, I hate UI stuff

>>163720787
>Making a screen to actually mess with it is way harder.
IMGUI and a coroutine to wait for the input to assign it, bam.

>>163720804
That is certainly one way to go about it, yes. You can also check _lastkey to limit the options for user assignment, although that is seldom necessary.

>>163720804
For keyboard input, mine is
if(keyboard_check_pressed(vk_anykey)){input = keyboard_key;}

>>163722525
Hello, dreamsequence level.

>>163722525
Anon did you fuck the parallax?

>>163722525
It is an interesting gameplay concept.
I really like it, really original.

>>163712507
Post what it looks like in the avatar config in unity.

>>163722525
This is like dissociatives in vidya form.

>>163722592
I accidentally spawned the game 3 times and this is what it did.

>it's an "i know exactly what story i want to tell but i have no idea how to make it in to a game" episode
how do I make games feel like games and not just vaguely interactive movies?

>>163723107
Add gameplay.

To be less obstuse, look at titles like Westerado. They have a story to tell, but they don't let it get in the way of the game.

>>163723014
How the fuck do you do that?

>>163698918
that looks like a barbell exercise

>>163723014
Each level in my game has scripts that load in the essential game systems when run so I can test quickly from any scene (despite this being backwards of the logical construction order). But here I had 3 open at once and I assumed the loading system called the awakes in a different order so it wasn't set up to handle it okay.

I'm really sick of all the little details in the engine which are not documented anywhere and you just have to run your own tests to figure out the behavior and then hope that it is intended and not something they are going to patch out or break in the next version.

0-5 watch an episode of twin peaks
6-9 continue dev

>>163723762 is meant for >>163723207

>>163723771
>twin peaks
I want !twinpeaks-dev to return.

>>163723771
nvm fuck numbers I'm going to continue working

>>163723874
That's the spirit!

>>163716021
damn dat's tidy

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You had ONE JOB op.

>>163723762
What engine?

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A lot of people have argued that vertex animation is insane and, ultimately, pointless, so I wrote up a wall of text trying to explain why I'm using it.

It likely IS pointless, but I hope some of you might find it interesting anyway:

http://theonian.tumblr.com/post/154962200682/merry-christmas-everyone-today-i-want-to

Merry Christmas - Don't forget to dev!

>>163726453
I don't know very much about 3d, but why can't you mix both approaches? so like most animation is done via mesh deformation + bones, and then you add the vertex animation stuff for small details

Or use bones to author animations and then convert them into vertex data

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>>163726680
>use bones to author animations and then convert them into vertex data
That's very possible, and I plan on doing that to make rough blockings (especially for symmetrical shit like walk loops) before I bake the animation as vertex data and make the vertex edits I want.

It's not all that common, though. Most people just use bones, and maybe some shape keys for facial animations.

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If you're not using player telemetry to train NPC NN's then you have no business making games

>>163710759
Aww yiss, done. I'm surprised it only took 4 hours.

>>163727093
I think you should try to focus more on improving, rather than just shitting out huge amounts of MS Paint stuff by following a template.

i give up

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>>163727638
okay

How do I make a proper camera shake? I know the basic "shake the camera left to right and linearly reduce the intensity of the shake until it isn't anymore" but it doesn't feel as good as other games.

>>163727863
>left to right
Have you tried up and down as well?

>>163727748
I want this but I'll wear it ironically

>>163726453
I'll admit, I only skimmed through your blog post before writing this, and I'll likely go back a read it more thoroughly. The only compelling argument I see here is the desire to see how it was done and to appreciate the effort involved.

Everything else seems like you spent a lot of effort to justify not taking the time to think out a rig and to weight paint the bones for the legs and wings that would work for your desired application.

You are basically doing the tedious part of 2d, without taking advantage of the tools that make 3d animating less tedious after setting up a rig. Which is fine, you are fully entitled to do that, and with the number of vertices you are using it probably feels not so terrible to do it that way.

You have to know you can set keyframes for location, scale, and or rotation. Your transition to owl is fully possible with bones whether you want the legs to bend naturally up under the body or to scale down into almost nothingness, you don't really have any more freedom doing it your way, because bones manipulate the exact same vertices.

Same with your described claw attacks, just set keyframes for the scale of the claws during the animation.

I don't think vertex animation is bad, but I do think that if you end up making models with more polygons you will find it cumbersome to use your currently implemented technique.

>>163724840
Unity, though I would assume other closed source engines have the same problem.

>>163727863
You want to add some randomization in there but not too much.

>>163728216
yea but if you want vertex A to move forward and nearby vertex B to move backwards, you'd need two bones, and so on for more vertices. At such a low poly count, bones might not offer the freedom for nice looking animations.

bones don't give you quite as much freedom.

but yes, he'll figure out soon enough if its too tedious to do for all his models and he can always switch to rigging if it ends up being that way. I think the look will be worth it, especially for the main character.

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I spent sometime working on the idle animation. How does it look now?

>>163728216
>Everything else seems like you spent a lot of effort to justify not taking the time to think out a rig and to weight paint the bones for the legs and wings that would work for your desired application.
Bone rigging is very easy, Anon. One of the reasons I'm doing this because it's literally impossible to make a bone-rig bend small, triangular, single-loop joints without very wonky deformations.

>You are basically doing the tedious part of 2d, without taking advantage of the tools that make 3d animating less tedious
That is true, but I enjoy doing it, so all's good.

>Your transition to owl is fully possible with bones
It would be extremely cumbersome with bones, and the rig would have to be very special.
What could be done, however, is to shapekey into the owl, and then have a separate bone-rig for the owl's movement.

>Same with your described claw attacks, just set keyframes for the scale of the claws during the animation.
I might be misinformed, but I read that most game engines do not read scale date from bones?
Also, even if they did, that would mean adding a bunch of loose bones all over the place, just to be able to scale areas separately.

> I do think that if you end up making models with more polygons you will find it cumbersome to use your currently implemented technique
Naturally. I'm figuring this out specifically to deal with sub-400 triangle characters.

Also, what he said
>>163728701

A lot of things can be simulated with bones, hooks and shape keys, but that would make for a very convoluted rig, and it would still be harder to control than directly manipulating the vertices.

>>163729035
you should really look into doing ik for the legs, not only it's a lot easier but it'll stop the feet from sliding like that

>>163729381
I am using Ik, what do you mean?

>>163729835
huh

her legs should be resolving to the feet position, the feet should not move

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>>163729149
>Bones and weight painting are EZPZ

>Bones and weight painting are literally impossible for my application

At least as of Unity 5.4.1f (what I'm using), this two bone rig was keyed with location rotation and scale, then saved to the directory I store my models in for Unity, I have done no other tweaks to the settings.

You don't even need to use shape keys, you can just save the pose of the owl, scale of the legs and all.

If these models are so low poly, then weight painting them should be as you said, very easy.

Best of luck, and I wish you success, I just think you are giving undue praise to the way you are doing things.

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>>163730146
>At least as of Unity 5.4.1f (what I'm using), this two bone rig was keyed with location rotation and scale
Oh, well that's nice to know!

>You don't even need to use shape keys, you can just save the pose of the owl, scale of the legs and all.
Again, I very much doubt that would work out very well. There is a lot more happening there than just scaling.

>If these models are so low poly, then weight painting them should be as you said, very easy.
That's true, but the joints won't look good no matter how they're weight painted.

>Best of luck, and I wish you success, I just think you are giving undue praise to the way you are doing things.
Thanks!
That's fair enough - Perhaps bones could be used, and perhaps I'll return to them when I get over-encumbered by vertex animation, but for now I'm having enough fun to create a nice drive, and that alone is worth something, I think.

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>>163730474
>that gif

I don't wanna dev. I just wanna bang on my drum all day.

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daily reminder to steal for success

>>163730673
>complaining about "stolen" shit in a medium that looks the same 95% of the time
Animefags are the worst people on the planet.

>>163730553
Don't you ever respond to me or my son ever again

All I've been reading lately is lovecraft and it shows really hard in my writing. I don't know how I'm going to write quests if everything I write comes out like this:
http://pastebin.com/vpTSEkvP

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>>163731023

even come up with an idea
odd play video games

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Finally getting the visuals and sounds together for the puzzle game. Link to webm for sounds and drone music.

https://a.uguu.se/toZiJhjCUCPM_beep.webm

>>163731183
Went in expecting to cringe but it's not bad at all.
I wouldn't mind playing a game filled with that kind of writing.

I don't understand structure. Am I expected to have big loop somewhere that checks to see if I'm in the out of game menu, the pause menu, ingame, or if I'm quitting? Should those checks all be side by side while loops or something? I don't get where one script should end and another should begin, or what should be inheriting from where. All the guides I look up for anything just tell me how to make shit on the screen move around, can't find anything that explains how to organize things.

>>163732223
how about some globals

>>163731183
Went in expecting to cringe but I just ended up very confused. How do trees cling to their own bark? What do they cling with? How come the pine trees are as curvy and sharp as fishhooks? What did I misplace? How do stars pierce an abyss? Wait was it supposed to be dark?

>>163731183
>http://pastebin.com/vpTSEkvP
>"you begin to wonder how many of them you've misplaced."
This is a hit or miss thing that builds up some interest but disassociates "you," the reader, from the "you" who is being discussed. The "you" in the story clearly knows what the pronoun "they" refers to, but as a reader, "you" don't. Once the reader acknowledges this (i.e. reads the sentence) they're going to be immediately taken out of the shoes of the "you" in the story; the "you" in the story is no longer "them," if that makes any sense, which defeats the initial purpose of speaking in that manner. If you like it, keep it, but it's a sacrifice. I haven't read any lovecraft so it beats me if that's his shtick or something.

Though it's also possible your sample is out of context and I'd normally just know what "they" refers to.

>>163732223
http://gameprogrammingpatterns.com/contents.html

try this book maybe

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centered camera until I can figure out how to get the camera to pan only when the mouse is at the border of the games view. It's a lot easier to see whats coming at you but it limits your ability to shoot shit from a distance

Anyway an anon said I should just steal weapon ideas from other SHMUPs since they basically done everything already, i tried to be original and took bits from r-type, made them spin and shoot laser beams but it makes it even harder to see what is happening

>>163732813
>until I can figure out how to get the camera to pan only when the mouse is at the border of the games view

get() screen size
if (mouse.x < 0+border || mouse.x > screen.width - border) define pan(x)
if (mouse.y < 0+border || mouse.y > screen.height - border) define pan(y)
pan(x,y)
???

>>163732687
>book
>expect a boatload of information to sift through
>book actually tells me how to read it and how it's divided up in the introduction
>laid out layer by layer

surprisingly nice, though having an image or something that shows a good general purpose hierarchy tree might help too, am I thinking about this the right way? I keep getting hit with this fear that if I dive in I'll end up making a big clusterfuck of unusable stuff.

>>163732813
Do you aim with the mouse?

>>163732125
thanks
>>163732608
they're metaphors - I'm describing the trees as tall and sharp and associating the protagonist's feeling of cold with the environment. You misplaced your steps because you're lost.
>>163732623
it's some preliminary narration for the player to set the scene. This is my favorite lovecraft short story:
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/mez.aspx
you'll see the influence
I appreciate the help!

>>163732813
deployable missile pods that the player launches that are then manually or automatically detonated for an itano circus

deployable nodes that the player places and then activates which send arcs of energy along the series of nodes

charging body slam

black hole gun that turns the enemies it captures into orbiting projectiles that travel along with it

aberrant energy generator that leaves a damaging but quickly dissipating trail in your mech's wake

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>>163733160
Shit, forgot image
and obvious each state would have means for the user to change the state number

>>163733556
sort of, but your game states are best laid out in a tree structure. For example, you may have a "the game" game state which follows a certain number of rules and checks certain things. However in that state you might have "pause" and "unpause" states so you don't, for example, check collision or have to put most of your code in a "if(unpaused)" statement.

>>163733087

that's basically what I have, but it only works if the mouse x/y is less than 0. I probably have a logic in there that I just cant see atm

>>163733275
Yeah

>>163733463
>charging body slam
That's what i wanna do, like the shine spark or w/e it's called from metroid

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>>163733763
Yeah, coincidentally enough I hopped into the thread because immediately after making that drawing I thought "shit, I was supposed to make a tree".

Pulled this out of the book; are you generally expected to apply this sort of reasoning to the overall menu structure?

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>>163733912
>B for jumping

>>163733864
Instead of just panning the camera when the mouse gets to the edge, you should do something fancy like expand the viewport as the mouse gets further away from the player.

>>163734024
...maybe it's a keyboard game, and B is short for (space)Bar?

>arrow keys for moving

>>163734024
Surely anon wouldn't be so ignorant as to not include rebindable controls to correct this abominable mistake.

>>163733912
unless you plan on having a really ui heavy game you can pretty much just slap your menus together

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>>163733385

>>163734110
that's not anon (me), that's an image from the book pulled out of a section on "Finite State Machines"

>>163734115
what does this actually mean though

Like I'll go to make a menu and I'll get this panel in space in my viewport, and I'm just thinking "where the fuck am I?" all the while. I mean if I'm making a shooter for example, it's not like I just hide all the menus underneath the map then position the camera overtop of them when the player pauses the game. But if they aren't there, then where the fuck are they? There's just something I don't get and I feel like it should be painfully obvious.

>>163714612
Could I see her wireframe/untextured view? I wanna reference it for low poly.

>>163734332
you have your game gamestate where there are no menus and your menu gamestate where there are menus
are you making a javascript game? That's the only reason you should ever render something off screen and then move it onscreen when you need it

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>>163734267
I never said they were good metaphors

>>163734448
>you have your game gamestate where there are no menus and your menu gamestate where there are menus
that helps actually

but what happens when I move from one state to another? Don't I need to make the stuff from the state I'm leaving go away as I make the stuff from what I'm entering appear?

>are you making a javascript game?
I'm using godot which has script that handles like python.

>That's the only reason you should ever render something off screen and then move it onscreen when you need it
>render something off screen
Isn't rendering by-definition on screen? I think this is part of what I'm getting lost on.

>>163734673
no, you're going to keep pretty much everything in memory at all times (at least in the state you're in now). That being said, all your game states should have entering and leaving functions to clean things up (reset values to default, etc)

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>use a perlin noise to generate content
>what if I use another perlin noise to determine a threshold?
>and another perlin noise to determine the threshold min value?
>and another perlin noise to determine the threshold max value?
>and another perlin noise to determine a scale multiplier maybe?
>algorithm intensifies

I fucking love maths man

>>163734901
>you're going to keep pretty much everything in memory at all times
I guess I'll dive in and try not to worry about keeping stuff in the background (whatever that is)

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>>163734405
y

>>163735018
yea, really the only way to learn is to get started

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>>163735047
Is that what Monster Kid from Undertale grows up into?

>>163735136
thats a nice jaypeg you got there

>>163735047
Thnx boiiii

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The spirits of Xmas are falling. Kinda like snow, right.

>>163735437
is this The Lost Vikings?

looks nice

>>163735474
>lost vikings

You couldn't be further off from the mark if you tried. It's a platformer based off Maze of Galious with furry shota porn scenes after beating bosses.

>>163735474
>The Lost Vikings
Have there been any games that even came close to that kind of puzzle game setup? The Cave and Trine both are kind of in the same direction but both suck ass compared to TLV.

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what are some low-barrier-to-entry artstyles that aren't pixelart? preferably 2d

>>163735652
Posterization?

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>>163735474
Yes.

No, no it is not.

>>163735652
get some old photos and photoshop characters out
move them around like monty python animations

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>>163734990
Here are some abstract looking results.
Probably can get some good caverns but now I have way too many values to play around with.

>>163735721
What do you actually want to use this for?

>>163735763
Map generation. Gothicadev

I'll just feed that pass to a dynamic heightmap so I can get some caverns below ground level.

>>163735696
>people unironically consider this genre erotica and not comedy
topkek what a world we live in

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Anyone else think (Amateur) is too belittling here? Should we rename these threads to Hobbyist/Self-Taught Game Dev general?

>>163736240
go away reddit

>>163736240
aggy daggy sounds better.

>>163736240
>intentionally getting involved in thread politics
>not just, like, maeking gaem
k-kill yourself fampai

>>163736240
That's some nice bait you got there.

>tfw no motivation to make progress because none of it looks exciting when all your art is just colored cubes
how do people manage to finish games with placeholder art? i'd be way more motivated if i finished programming some neat attacks and i could actually see some animations happen rather than a red cube flying around and another cube being knocked back a little

>>163736453
just make everything from cubes; characters, particles, fx, everything. if it doesn't look good, then you don't have enough cubes.

>>163736453
>how do people manage to finish games with placeholder art?
Find a placeholder style that you like and most importantly CAN do by yourself.

I've spend months looking/experimenting for one but now I'm really satisfied with what I have. Although I'm getting nearly no replies or notes but that's how the world works so you will have to deal with that.

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>>163736240
>amateur
>belittling
only if you're a normie who doesnt appreciate etymology

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>>163730673
Monty was a genius. He stole shit to make the most mediocre anime wannabe show full of waifus, and japs are buying it like hot bread.

>>163736774
>gogem responding to bait
Why expect more?

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Also merri kurisumasu.

>>163736829
words matter, nodev
nodev: portmanteau of "no" and "developer", pertaining to a person who participates in a game development community but has not created any games.

>>163736952
Bonfires sell games.

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>>163736952
>khopesh
>has a wide crossguard

>>163736952
メリクリ fucking furfag

>>163737398
said the weaboo

>>163736993
I don't like that definition. Are you saying that one is a nodev until they release something playable? And, from that point on, are no longer a nodev even if they cease to develop games?

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>>163737165
4u
>>163737398
Marikuri to you too. Hope it went well.

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Trying to polish my fugging death animation and gameover screen/text.

What does it need? I'm trying to go for that mario sunshine kinda gameover text.

I added a ghost that leaves boku's body upon death. (got rid of the old exploding into little cubes).

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>>163737575
it was very tasty

so... /AGDG/ I just created courage and just enrolled myself in a game developing course in college, so what i'm in for? did I finally fuck it up completely? what can I expect from the first months?

>>163737645
i think the important elements are
>each letter animates individually
>they move through the center of the screen

>>163737762
>what can I expect from the first months?
hell

>>163737762
>enrolling without informing yourself beforehand
You are getting exactly what you deserve.

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>>163737762
>I just created courage and just enrolled myself in a game developing course

>>163737841
>>163737872
I did do some research beforehand anon, but still its kinda different from hearing the opinions of the students themselves and since I barely know anyone irl that does the course, I kinda wanna know what you guys thinks personally.

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the dynamic bullet trails have an interesting side effect of nearly disappearing when the game is paused

>>163735437
T-thats not snow, anubisdev...

>>163738204
If the man wants massive flocks of bird to poop in his gif, let him.

>>163737645
proper fanfare

>he's making a game that has an ending
enjoy fading into obscurity