/dfg/- Dwarf Fortress General

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i choose this general

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me too

>>163362396
ninedots > other votes

>Captcha: CHRIST Speed

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Nth for keep the fuck on topic this time.

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I'm posting bote until toady adds botes and we can have real fishing into the game

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>>163363505
>when you are in /pol/ for so long you false flag and samefag at the same time
/DWARF FORTRESS GENERAL/

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Ok, i need to get rid of kids from my fort ( i have 100 dorfs and 35 of them are kids ... ) to improve fps.
How do i lure them into my drowning chamber ?
Burrows dont work, i cant draft them into military and i cant think of any other way to get them there.

>>163363505
Fuck off.

>>163363763
Flood your ENTIRE fortress right after burrowing the non-kid dwarves somewhere save

I'll come back to these threads when the update comes out. This is just ridiculous.

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Didn't I tell you those faggots would post the general in /pol/ and then they did and this is what happened.

Enjoy this cancer until chink m00t nukes /pol/ or makes up a global rule to keep these faggots under control.

>>163364435
>Good, we don't want any hillary shills here

They've been shitting up other threads too, trying to act like poltards but their hand always slips and they reveal themselves to be Hillary shills.

They must be butthurt as hell over the recount failing and Jill Stein running off with the money.

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>stirring shit in the most chillest general there is

>>163364130
And something less ... radical ?

If i set children to be eligble for work in Therapist, will it make them use burrows or able to get drafted ??

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Hi /dfg/.

I hate SJWs, here's why:
>they're fat
>they're stupid
>they have weak chins
>they wear glasses
>they're stupid

>>163364929
So the more we shitpost, the more OC nines produce? Sweet deal.

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go away /pol/!

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>>163365129
We're nearing critical mass shitposting

>>163364385
>Hiroshimoot
>Doing anything
Every person that could be considered staff on this site suck at maintaining boards.

Gonna start a new fort in a couple of days. How tall should I make the crucifix so I can build a church on top?

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>>163364058
Where does their food go?

>>163365935
>pic

>>163366051
Tall enough that you anything you throw off it instantly splatters blood all over the crucifix.

>>163366157
Sounds reasonable. Hopefully I won't get ravaged by the supernatural beforehand.

>>163366315
>>163366436
I'm pretty sure that the general consensus is that you should fuck off.

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>I leave to have lunch with a friend and come back a hour later and its a new thread with 40+ posts.
What the fuck is going on?!

>>163364929
esotericly amazing as normal.
wish I could .gif

>>163366315
My honest, non-meme opinion: yes. Look at Japan, their rape statistics are nowhere normal for an industrialised country. I refuse to believe that the visual novel industry is innocent.

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Post comfy DF related pics to drive the /pol cucks away.

>>163366627
Don't enable them. What is wrong with you?

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>>163366648
Isn't exactly DF, but always makes me think of it.

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>>163367136
Reminds me of sim city 2000

>>163367365
I've never played that one. Do you think its worth buying off GoG?

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>tfw Toady still haven;t add animal doctoring and healthcare
>tfw i have four or five crippled war dogs just limping around and leaving trails of blood all around their station ground
>tfw i cant do anything about it

As a dog owner and lover - i hate this :(

>>163367361
>>163367136
Moar for the love of god..

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>>163366674
God, you must lead a pathetic life ...

>>163366502
Apparently we are being raided.

>people are actually responding to politicsposters
>people are actually acknowledging politicsposters

You all deserve this for being so easily baited.

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>>163367684
Yes, it is good.

>>163367832
>tfw I can only draw some geometric autism and very small doodles
>tfw can't do living things to save my life
Everytime I try doing something that would not fit a foot note I get bored. Did you had to practice a lot?

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>>163367773
Report and ignore.

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>tfw to intelligent to not use the outdated starter pack

>>163368010
When /4xg/ tried making strategy general there was an autist so adamant on taking down that even with the timer he flooded the thread and took it down. It's really shit that under the new administration mods are quite lax and useless.

>>163367694
Please don't give it attention, it's what it wants.
I'll try to dig up some more stuff in s similar vein

>>163368008
That's from a resident drawfag. I haven't been here for a long time but he seems like a really cool guy.

>>163368167
You slut. I thought I was talking to timbuk.

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>>163368043
>chessboard is 4x6
>pieces are identical and all over the board
I'm pretty triggered right now.

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Okay what is up with my soldiers just leaving shit on the floor of the barracks ?
Do they switch their armour for better quality ones and just dump their old ones on the ground ?
They are proffesional soldiers who have no labours switched on and they are training all the times ( thats why i have 3 swordmasters already ). Pic fucking related.

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>>163367808
IM sorry, i will try to do better.

>>163367832
>>163368008
I used to draw a lot but for life of me i cant draw anything using computer ...
That makes me think - i should try again...

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>>163367773
Goblins
>>163368008
I find time to draw when doing something else. be it watching a movie, staff meeting, dinner you get better over time. Lord knows my stuff is still below par, but I have progressed slightly.
use pen so you have to live with your mistakes and make something of it.

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What I imagine every dragon sees all the time.

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>>163368483
You should start drawing.

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>>163368957
Something like that.

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Ha first Titan killed and now first siege <3
And i have 5 Swordmasters <3 nr 2

>>163369221
More like continue.
But yeah you are right. But i have real concentration/procrastination/motivation issues.
Same with writing...

>>163368124
>that one mod that looks at a report
>goes to thread
>bans
>doesn't read anything else

>whole thread is 10x identical shitposts that he left behind only cleaning the one
>the one he cleaned was the mildest one
>week bannu

quality mods

What happened?

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I just captured a goblin..

What should i do with him /dfg ??

My options include :
A - build a 15 z level high tower and toss him to splatter on the main courtyard of my fort
B - use already existing 13 z level shafy and simply dump him there in the caverns
C - use him as a training fooder for my soldiers
D - construct some elaborate room filled with traps and dump him there

What should i choose /dfg

>>163369768
>dislike furfags
>catwarriors always does it for me

fucking magic the gathering ruining me in childhood with that one card

I didn't even play the damn game just admired the art

>>163370910
strip him and build the cage outside, display him as a warning.

>>163370910
E. capture more goblins and toss them into a hole in which you toss garbage and other unwanted creatures and then use that as an execution hole to dump nobles/criminals/children/elves in

>>163368707
>drawing anytime
I used to be like that, but then I discovered I hate myself even more than I thought previously and now I'm scribbling traditional chinese, circuits and logic circuits everywhere.

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>>163371340
I will just make a granite floor and 15 z high microline tower and just toss him off it ISIS style.

Fucker killed 3 of my dogs and made one of my soldiers dodge straight into river, he can go fuck himself.

Wow, nice work mods! Anyway, cool! This was a really nice discussions /dfg/! But now I'm getting tired, so I'm going to sleep, see you tomorrow!

>>163372154
>killed dogs and a soldier
a quick death is too good for it. make it suffer

>>163372891
Now i'e caught the second goblin ( fucker killed one rookie and one hauler that literally swerved the bridge leading to fort at the last moment and run off into the wilderness instead of in the direction of incoming rescue dumb fuck ) i have to think about it ...

Something grand and painfull and slow ... Like singular disk trap corridor that will slowly remove his limbs as he tries to escape ..
Yeah that is good idea.

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As fort makers, what do you consider "you" being in the ever going story? Are you an angel, a god or the dwarfs inner intuition?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0R0FkCpYI

>>163370275
Just another good day of work. There are some shit janitors and mods out there, either they are corrupt and evil or simply ignore shitposts but once in a while there are silent guardians that protect our indigenous memes. Like the mod on /lit/ that made ayn rand a baneable offense.

>>163373852
I only really self-insert as the adventurer in av mode. I just see myself as an observer in fort mode. Mostly because I only see fort mode as a means to shake the world up before going back to playing my adventurers. I just make a mediocre fort and make it look realistic and practical, wait as long as I can, and then retire it and go back to adventuring.

>>163373852
we are all but an aspect of armok

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>>163373852
iirc it's canon that we're the combined will of the fortress nobility.

>>163374465
If you were just an observer, surely you wouldn't guide them or make them do anything? You have to be something, otherwise they would notice how their thoughts and activities are guided.

No dwarf hollows out a room on their own. You do that. They follow your orders. Observer wouldn't do anything and would only watch as your caravan died in a few days on the surface.

>>163373852

i am Armok's clueless intern who does all the world whilst Armok fucks off somewhere else

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>>163374930
You've got a sacrificial blood soaked pyramid right?

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Why is it that every world i generat is empty of goblins?

all i ever get is knife ears and dwarfs,,, rarely humans

>>163368483
did you set the barracks for individual/squad equipment? they're probably leaving the equipment around because of the option being enabled

>>163375809
If you generate a pocket world with normal amount of civs, you'll never get all races.

Just make a larger world, or make a world with more civs.

>>163375340
Oh well I guess if you put it that way then I'd most likely consider my actions to be the result of the important dwarves getting together and having a think on what actions should be taken next.

>>163377463
That's absolutely false; I do it all the time. Sometimes the rng will be mean, but the normal number of civs on a pocket world is 5, which is just enough to get one of each.

>>163375809
are you using advanced parameters, or just regular world gen?

NEW RELEASE WHEN

>>163379846
Christmas

>>163379937
*Xmas

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Seriously, when will Toady add more interspecies banter, aka racism?

>>163380137
t. Elf

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>>163380226
Muh silmarils.

>>163379846
looking at the dev list I would guess maybe mid january.

I can't wait for the magic update. this game is going to go from 13 out of 10 to 20/10.

>>163380183
Eventually anon, eventually.

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>>163379846
>>163380183
>>163380549
>>163380809

>>163380809
The rumoured eventually arc.

I haven't seen a single flipping pond turtle since 43.05, did something happen or is it just by chance?

Imagine if dwarf fortress had the benefits of a large, wealthy gaming company, and a dozen developers who all have the exact vision as toady.

Why does our timeline suck so much /dfg/ :(

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>>163384025
Imagine if your mother wasn't a dirty whore.

>>163384025
It's better this way. Large teams would attract media attention, and in the current RAH RAH VIDEOGAMES ARE BAD climate I think leaving it the way it is guarantees development the way the creator intended.

>>163371340
Year 3, 20 spear masters and 100~ dwarves and permanent visitors

Still not a single siege, fogobeast, or were creature

>tfw high savagery, medium evil

Did I do something wrong?

>>163384880
I don't think savagery has anything to do with invaders or monsters.
You're just unlucky.
Do you even have neighbours? I can't believe goblins wouldn't be at war with your dorfs.

>>163384880
crack the caverns for beasties, but yeah if you want more shit running around generate more beasts in worldgen. semi megabeasts in huge quantities make for some frequent fun.

>>163384880
Savagery and evil are completely dissociated from sieges.

You may have embarked in an area without neighbours.

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gonna experiment with a discord server for this general, since browser irc is some antique store shit. feel free to join up.

https://discord.gg/ZknqrDC

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how am I supposed to believe him about his stonecrafting skills when he's so crafty with lies?

>>163385698
I have a ton of neighbors, kobolds theif all the time, gobbos visit a lot for peaceful reasons

>>163373264
how about a 1x1 room with an upright standing spike traps filled with featherwood spears? the wood would damage and bruise him, but I doubt he would die quickly

>>163386330
maybe you should be a little more abrasive with your visitors.

>>163385419
He already has spearmasters, semimegas aren't going to do shit to him. What they will do is rampage a lot in worldgen, reducing the civilized pop and making the sieges he's looking for less likely.

>>163386203
What if peasants that dabble in lies are actually legendary liars lying about their skills just to do nothing? A shame on them because they all get recruited

>>163385960
Why?

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>>163379576
>>163377463


Thanks i used the more civs and larger world i now got angry gobs and humies

>>163387501
socializing.

>>163387841
We're already doing that.

>>163387939
not really, this medium has limitations and less social people flip out and derail when you go off topic. discords for generals are very common, I'm disappointed this one doesn't have one because people that play dorf are cool.

>>163366648
>dwarf fortress 2057

>>163388143
not him but never make a discord group for a general

it does nothing but promote dividing people up and creates unhealthy hivemind attitudes and before you know it it's a Us vs Them

not that I can stop you from promoting your little groups since it is game related, but I will never join any of them and they serve very little purpose

>>163388143
fuck off underaged

>>163388143
This general doesn't have one because the handful of times it's been suggested it has been soundly rejected. I can only imagine that the reason that you didn't meet with instant bile and opprobrium like the previous suggesters is that /dfg/ is reflexively nice to drawfags.

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>>163388876
>>163388908
discord servers strengthen communities and red herring things like /pol/ raids, this is well documented. if you don't like it ignore it, I'm going to post it once a thread.

>>163386203
What if he's lying about skill at lying?

>>163389251
>this is well documented
Post documentation please.

>>163389251
>if you don't like it ignore it
Or we could report it because discord servers aren't Dwarf Fortress related

Fuck off

>>163389251
Stop trying to ruin the last good 4chan threads over political bias.

>>163389930
>>163389804
>>163389629
you guys say it causes "us vs them" mentality, but that's ironically precisely the attitude you're implementing from the get go, it's very hypocritical behavior. if you don't want to participate, don't, but don't stir up a bunch of drama over it like some kind of elf . it has nothing to do with political anything.

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>>163389251
>/pol/ raids
if you're referring to the shitstorm earlier today, then I'm pretty sure that wasn't a /pol/ raid. while I'm sure that some of our posters also post there, I doubt that the board is largely aware of /dfg/.

what we had today was probably just three to five regulars who decided to fling shit after getting tired of waiting for the artifacts.

>>163390258
>elf
We're now mortal enemies you and I anon. Pray to your wood fondling gods.

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>>163385960
Huh, don't see much point for it, and really not even sure what it is since I've got so much shit blocked, it looked like a chatroom though. What's the point?

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>>163390258
>>163390439

>>163389251
>takes game discussion out of the general and to another format
>weakens or removes the anonymity that this community is built on
How exactly would we be strengthened?

If you just want a place for offtopic discussion then there's no need to post the discord in the general. If your discussion would be on topic then there's no need to remove from the general that we all came to on purpose for on topic discussion.

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>>163390528
>What's the point?
Don't you know? Since /dfg/ is one of the few remaining generals that hasn't devolved into a shitty chatroom, we obviously gotta turn it into a shitty chatroom ourselves. Geez anon, get with the times.

>>163390528
>>163390580
voice discussion, instant chat abilities for more in-depth discussions, allows an outlet for people to sperg out their off topic shit, socializing. it's healthy because people who usually come in, lurk and leave might stick around longer and maybe even learn how to play the game, the only two things it could realistically do are either nothing or cause community growth.

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>>163390869
>"""cute"""bolds

>>163391103
if people wanted that they'd go to reddit or bay12, faggot.

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>>163391103
voice discussion makes it easier for the discussion to slip into politics or otherwise controversial topics. this will ultimately lead to a polarisation where different camps form in the different media. /dfg/ will be split in two, and both parts will turn into political echo chambers.

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>>163391264
it's okay, I was very aware there were going to be people with negative reactions like this, but the cherry had to be popped at some point. I will bear your displeasures, anon.

>>163391461
people don't actually care that much about politics around here. it's mostly ironic shitposting when it does happen.

>>163391461
Jesus christ people, it's a discord, I'm not going to stop shitposting in the general just because I have a faster way of discussing my dorfs


The "NO CHANGE NO CHANGE" autism is just insane here

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>>163391103
Ah, I mean, I can dig the motivation, and assuming this is honestanon I <3 u full homo, but eh, ain't even got a camera or microphone on this juryrigged monstrosity, much less the relevant video chat software.

In other news, got ambushed by a zombie giant black bear, managed to tackle it off a roof hard enough that it hit the wall across the street so I jumped off and elbow dropped it before it landed.

Not really super effective on a giant zombie bear, but damn it's fun.

>>163391806
People don't want a disord because it defeats the purpose of having the general.

>>163391764
yeah, mostly because writing in text alienates us from our words. this is what makes the irony possible. it will be a different deal with voice discussion.

>>163391139
delet

>>163391989
this is a misconception as to how discord interacts with an image board general. a very understandable one. what it actually tends to do in reality is create a platform from which people garden the thread.

>>163391614
>implying discord doesn't pay you to infiltrate communities
You people are worse than the borg

Does the alpha DFHack working well enough or is it beyond buggy?

>>163392145
You keep saying stuff like this, but it looks like most people (myself included) don't want a discord because we've all seen discord drama shit up a general.

>>163392268
I use to to dig out veins and create large shafts, no issues.
linux 64 alpha

>>163392145
Are you hired by someone to proselytize the gospels of discord or something?

what's some good music for dwarf fort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05rFkjHwbw

>>163392145
the problem with discords for generals is the create a "muh inner circle" faggotry group, where it's all just namefaggotry and drama, and quickly kills all discussion. discords and non-anonymity are shit unless it's for drawfriends or tourneyanon who are providing a lot of content for the general

>>163392145
take your progressive >muh change and >muh misconception bullshit and shove it in your dwarf hole

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>>163392516
Yeah, it feels weird going somewhere from here and being asked for a name. We got a nice comfy little spot here already, yanno?

>>163392619
elf*

>>163392145
>create a platform from which people garden the thread
So basically, the (unanonymous, I presume) discord users are an entire different class, the party elite, and in order to have any influence on the "development" of the general you have to join the discord group, as well? It sounds like a shitty decision.

A general isn't something to be "gardened" in the first place. It appears and develops spontaneously and organically. When you try to seize control of it, you ruin it.

>>163392270
democracy? on an anonymous image board?

>>163392364
it actually just occurred to me that I don't have any clue how discord makes money, there's no advertisement.

>>163392740
They are privately funded by silicon valley shenanigans. But according to their privacy policy they can sell your data. He he he

>>163392740
probably the same way that g00k makes money:
collecting personal data from the users and then selling it to third parties which use it to show relevant ads on other sites.

>>163392740
My point was that everyone has seen what negative effects a discord can have on a general, and no one (apart from you) seems to want to risk that. Take a hint, friendo.

>>163391103
>instant chat abilities for more in-depth discussions
Instant discussion isn't more in-depth. It favors concision and summary to maintain a conversational flow, and encourages off-the-cuff responses. The written word allows nuanced explanation, detail, and inline citation (i.e. wiki links, quotes, etc), and is a much more suitable format for discussion of game mechanics. DF isn't a game that lends itself to conversational teaching, which is why the wiki is such an important tool and why people often answer questions here with walls of text.

>sperg out their off topic shit
Plenty of other places for that.

>socializing
That's literally what we're doing right now. We chose this format for socializing.

>the only two things it could do realistically are nothing or cause community growth
Or it could remove some game discussion from /dfg/, which is directly harmful to /dfg/ and to those who came here for game discussion. If your discord is successful it will definitely take at least some game discussion elsewhere. This general is already slow, I don't see how you imagine removing people from it would be helpful.

this is some very hypocritical behavior, look at the arguments you guys are making about this hypothetical "divide", and then look at who is the one creating the divide. what it boils down to is "you can't do that because I'll choose to demonstrate animosity and be upset". okay? if you want to be, I guess. I'm still going to post it once a thread.

>>163392740
>have a place to discuss game
>wants to make a place to meta discuss the discussion of the game
why? that makes no sense

>>163393172
Just don't come months later raiding the general, changing OPs, reporting files etc like they do in /gsg/ and other generals. If you want a place to fuck off, fuck off to there then.

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>>163393172
You're a scumbag

>>163393172
If you consider one person's idea being overwhelming disagreed with and splitting a clique off of the general to be the same class of division, then sure we're all being very hypocritical.

No one said that you can't. Everyone who has responded to you said that you shouldn't. We can't stop you. You can't stop us from stating our opinion that you're harming our general. Or from calling you a faggot and suggesting that you >>>/reddit/.

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Dwarves are migrating to my isolated island by spawning on a fucking random square...

RIP isolation island?

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>>163394156

Tell me a bedtime story about the most notable dwarf you ever had

>>163394156
>urist
>high master swimmer

>>163394156
I can't tell what the fuck is happening in that tileset.
Are you completely surrounded by water? Not in the world outside your embark, but your actual embark itself. If you have any map edge tiles at all that aren't water you'll migrants.

>>163389251
>if you don't like it, ignore it
>I'm doing it anyway so fuck you

already dividing the thread up and shitting on us for not caring

good job discord-chan

>some fag is salty because nobody likes his discord
>starts bitching about people on 4chan being mean to him

lol

>>163394745
>you're all hypocrites!
>this thread is too conservative for change!
what a fag

>"no! X will cause drama!"
>*causes drama*
>"see! X caused drama!"
classic. I won't be swayed by that simple ruse, though.

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>general begins with /pol/ shitflinging
>it's obvious bait
>suddenly it gets ignored
>tard gets upset, leaves

>later that day...
>"HEY GUISE JOIN MY AWESOME DISCORD GROUP"

Coincidence?

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>>163395057
Nobody wants to go to your dumb Discord, dude. Deal.
>B-B-BUT U HATE CHANGE FAG LOSERS
I mean, I just don't like Discord. And don't want to be on any Discord run by such a whiny bitch.

Also if this shit keeps up I might explicitly say there's no /dfg/ Discord on the OP. If that matters.

>>163395216
I'm not discord anon, anon
I'm joining in on the mockery of him
fag

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Playing again after a years-long break. Last time, sieges were such a shit that the only way to survive was to trap up and be invincible, or to make your meeting hall into a danger room to train in time.

I'd like to make an airy outdoorsy fort, with my dorfs larping as fucking elves picking all this new fruit and shit. I see we've got watermelons?! O lawd.

What do I need to know to survive in this brave new world of multilevel trees and cuckolded goblin civilizations?

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>>163394580
No, 100% of my tiles surrounding the site edge are water.

Where the fuck did these shitlords come from. Maybe it's just because hardcoded, I'm going to be pissed if a third migrant wave arrives ever.

tips for embarking on ice zones

>>163395634
The first thing you need to learn is that danger rooms are worthless now.

>>163395917
Dress warmly.

>>163395634
train a military before you do almost anything else, I'd guess. adorn them in grown wood armors and weapons.

>>163395849
your parent civ will always find a way to get to you. if you don't want migrants, set the pop cap to 7 in the init files, but not the strict cap, so they can have kiddies.

>>163395917
abandon surface

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As someone who took part in a fresh general for over a year.

For about 3 to 4 months the general was great. It was on point and a few silly avatarfags. Suddenly Discord was introduced. It got spammed everywhere and the ones who made it were insanely defensive about it just like anon here.

At first it was only a handful of people. At times you'd see the general just worsen and no one really knew why. Name dropping became even more cancerous and the thread was garbage. Dozens of "t. NAME" of literally who.

Suddenly screenshots from the discord pages emerged. They purposefully shat on the general, as a group, to make it worse for us so they could then come back with "well this place is shit, you should just join our discord instead". It was fucking awful.

Then fast forward a few months and the general was half dead. Around same amount of posters below, but hardly any posting going on. People were instead using Discord and the general was just their dumping ground. Whenever they had an argument they wouldn't argue with each other, they would bring it to the general instead because they needed the anonymity. Of course the ones who weren't in the Discord were all confused who or what was talking or what about.

The ones who left for Discord pretty much stopped coming to the general, the one that they themselves ruined actively for others. They caused the problem and served themselves as the solution, only to abandon the general first hand.

All in all, no matter how hard you try to claim Discord somehow enhances a general you're wrong. It serves to worsen it and that usually is the original creators goal. They want control over anons, because here they are powerless and get called out.

>>163395634
Military has always been the easiest and most OP solution to sieges. If you were playing 34.11 and didn't know how to properly set up your training then I can see how you may have come to those erroneous conclusions about their danger, but invasions have never been very dangerous except to relatively new players. In any case, no arcane workarounds are needed to get your military to train properly now. If you get some started in the first couple seasons you'll have legends ready to go before you ever see a goblin.

>>163395849
>No, 100% of my tiles surrounding the site edge are water.
In that case you're definitely experiencing a bug, and should report it. There's an old (still unresolved last I saw) bug about wildlife spawning midmap, and your issue is probably related.

>>163396258
you're argument is based entirely on an arbitrary judgement of my character, which I doubt you are very familiar with. don't worry about it, I wouldn't do anything to harm this general that I've been posting in on and off for years, and I'm not the whiny underaged power-seeking admin-type some of you are trying to make me out to be. I'm very aware of the archetype, and aware of the kind of discord server you are describing, and the reason I'm making one right now is literally because one will inevitably be made as the game rises in popularity over the next couple of years and I'd rather it wasn't some circlejerk kid who had the ban button.

some people want to make friends and don't have other outlets to do so, some people like that are in this general, and I want to meet them. not everyone is like that, of course. there doesn't have to be any animosity between these kinds of people, so why create some?

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>>163396557
I don't know the version. It was the one where he'd just overhauled military training and it didn't work - squaddies would literally stand around "observing" each other and that was all, so you *needed* a danger room, but then it was just ridiculously OP.

Can we cook fruit without losing the seeds yet?

>>163396258
/dfg/ is old and stabler than everything. Discord fags can't change us. We are as constant and as eternal as the lack of updates. I don't even know how we made through the 2 year period for the world to be activated, and my almonds.

>>163397174
>claims not to be whiny
>has literally been bitching this whole fucking thread and immediately assuming everyone is just "AFRAID OF CHANGE" because they don't want any part of your dumb Discord

Fucking kill yourself, man.

>>163397192
Does that mod has tuuuubes?

>>163397174
you should try reddit ot bay12 forums if you want to meet new people
or make a df gen on /soc/

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>>163396179

Fucking traders showed up, thankfully I just saved so I forced quit.

Is there a way to turn off traders? I just want my (now) 11 dwarves to live on their own and reproduce.

>managing a fort
>suddenly goblin siege
>they start raping and pillaging my dwarves
>attempt to counteract with my squads
>suddenly hear someone yelling in my ear saying:
>DUDE THIS IS JUST CHANGE LMAO STOP HATING CHANGE ROFL JUST IGNORE THEM

what do

>>163397564
call the gobbos hypocrites

>>163397306
>shoehorning in that activated almonds joke
I like it, even if it's highly off topic
ur alright anon
>>163397330
I agree with this anon, just shut the fuck already about discord, nobody wants to use it
>>163397564
move out of sweden

>>163397564
Well obviously they're just trying to do what's best for the fort. I mean, those gobbos understand that most goblins are known to cause trouble and be dangerous, but these gobbos are different. It was inevitable that gobbos would show up as your fort gained popularity anyways.

>>163397192
I remember. That's what I was getting on about regarding the workaround that's no longer necessary. Watching demonstrations is a normal part of training. Along with individual drills it's all green recruits will do. Eventually they start sparring and their skill level explodes. You once had to set your squads up in a very specific way for them to be able to spar, but it works properly now. Just start early and you'll be fine.

Cooking destroys seeds for anything that has seeds.

>>163397174
>I'm afraid some kid will take the name before me
so what? none of us will be there so who cares? we don't use discord

>>163397564
he's probably angry because you didn't download the modpack that puts FREE adware into your computer

keep fighting those evil gobbos

>>163397524
>>163396179

So I set [ACTIVE_SEASON] in the entity_default.txt in the savegame folder for my world for the [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] tag. Still merchants showed up again.

How do I isolationism??

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>>163385960
>You were our drawfag, we loved you.
>You were supposed to destroy the /pol/ faglords, not aid them!
>It's over honestAnon, we've got the *muddied ground*.

>>163398694
He is not honest anon

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wow, a year in and suddenly mountainhome. the queen is wearing rags. my parent civ is pretty large, I can't imagine that this peasant chick is the best option for queen unless I'm all that's left.

>>163398173
I use it, I'll care. some others too. it's obviously a minority, I'd appreciate it if you all didn't cause drama every time you see it. I never once accused anybody of being afraid of change, by the way, dunno where you're all getting that from.

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>>163398829
Really? Thank fuck, I was like "wtf, this is some anakin/obiwan shit going down" there.

>>163398873
You're better off advertising your malware on reddit.

>>163398618
There aren't many entity_default changes that can take effect midgame. I don't know whether that's one that can, but I'm doubtful. You could try regenning your world from seed with the change in the main raws to see if it helps. If you haven't already, set your strict popcap to 7 (or 1, in case of deaths). In theory it's supposed to prevent even the first 2 migrant waves, but I've never tried it. If you're planning to have kids and do a starting 7 only generational fort that won't work, and you might have to accept those first few magical teleporting migrants. But hey, free wizards, right?

>>163398618
murder them until they stop coming, they are obviously fakes.

>>163398694
well, all of the /pol/ crap is exactly the kind of thing that gets tossed around a discord server instead of a general. I'd rather people let out their autism there than here if it was possible. I've been wanting to try starting a server here for a couple of months now, chose today because of the kids baiting everybody with their political crap.

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>>163398873
>

>>163399202
>thinly veiled concern trolling
nobody wants a discord, stop

>>163398829
>>163398956

Well, the first post on the topic came with fresh honestanon OC, and he hasn't denied being honestanon when called such.

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>>163399202
>I'm here to save your general, why don't you see that?

if I give my military dwarf high training skill on embark, will he be more capable of training recruits?

>we will be the minority...
>the underdogs...
>*music slowly builds up*
>the secret saviors...
>battling against all the boogeymen...
>we don't ask for money...
>we do it for free...
>all you have to do...
>*VROOOOM*
>is IGNORE US

>>163399658
you want the teacher skill.

>>163399747
finally, somebody who understands.

>>163399658
Yes, it will help. A little bit of teacher skill would also be helpful. Both will make demonstrations more effective.

>>163399081
Yeah, maybe. I've turned off the thing and the merchants are still showing up... and they'll probably never be able to leave...... ever.........

GOD FUCK I ALREADY GOT EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO THESE DWARVES

FUCK ALL

>>163399994
kill them! arm your peasants into a little squad and murder the imposters.

>>163399274
kek

>>163399994
I feel your pain, anon.
Also, have you reported it and uploaded your save? The mere presence of merchants/more than 7 dwarves on your map should be enough to to confirm the bug. A bug like this could potentially factor in to the myth arc's new map generation features, and you have probably the ideal embark for isolating it.

>>163400053
I really just don't want external influences effecting my fortress at all. Having their crap here is a frustration, even just to dump it.


Oh well, the oceans had no fish in them anyways... I just now need to find another whole island to fully encompass with an embark. Tears.


>>163400370
Save got all fuckered up during my trying to fix things in the raw. whoops :D
If it persists on my next attempt I'll make sure to send it in, wishing I had actually hit backup saves option now lol

>>163400502
You should be able to copy/paste the base raws into your save to fix whatever you fucked up. And you should be able to export the seed as well to make another go at the same island.

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Perfect size island...
>Trees: None
>Other vegetation: None

Armok is fucking me hard today.

>>163400941
just crack the caverns and you've got both

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>>163399450
WELL GREAT I'M FREAKING OUT AGAIN, SAY IT AIN'T SO HONESTBRO!

>>163401614
I was expecting that report to be someone's chest being caved in when struck with a projectile head. I was pleasantly surprised. Not that the other thing would have disappointed me.

Sorry you had to hear about your drawfu this way.

>>163385960
no

So what version do you guys think we're going to be at when myth and artifact update gets released? I say .47

>>163402163
Artifacts aren't gonna be in the same update as Myths.

>>163402163
I'm betting artifacts will get us to .45 or .46, and myths/magic will get us to the landmark .50 release.

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>>163402163
Artifact I'll guess 0.48.00, Myth/Magic I'll guess 0.54.00 low end, 0.58.00 high end.

>>163401798
brb cutting myself

>>163402295
which update's coming next?

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some fresh OC

>>163403026
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html

The "Improvements to Artifacts" section, magic and myths comes later

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>>163403106
saved

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>>163401614
don't worry, we can still dance even if we have differing opinions.

>>163403106
funny

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>>163403731
Come back from the dork side, honestAnon, don't give in to the lure of the Shit Lards!

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Still not sure if this is a bug or a feature.

>>163403217
That picture needs a dwarf in the window pulling a lever. Or just a dwarf with the cyan "Pull the lever" job text above it.

>>163380927
This is good.

>>163404872
If the zombie will sell you helm plump then report it again. If not, then I say just run with it. Or away from it. However you get your jollies.

>(you): What rumors have you heard?
>Anon: I have heard of plans to assassinate /dfg/
>(you): Tell me more
>Anon, /dfg/ regular, reveals himself as Discord, the ashen-tooth website of lies!
>Discord grabs /dfg/ by the head
>Discord grabs /dfg/ by the head, but the blow is deflected by the /dfg/'s *on-topic discussion helm*!
>Anon: They say that Discord plots for /dfg/'s death.

>>163406093
>(you): I must leave

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>>163405178
Well, I didn't start in this town so by the time I made it here I've been horking down monstar heart powerups left and right, zombies aren't a problem, but I didn't expect them to be so lethal to all the merchants.

>>163406093
>Anon: It was inevitable.

>>163406616
>implying that's not a bonus

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>>163406093

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TAB

>>163406723
>implying the dwarf was a male

>>163361612
whoever likes orthoclase also likes elves

>>163408847
right? fuck orthoclase. at least microcline has an aesthetic hue.

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Trinitite when?

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>>163409668
malachite already is in-game and nothing tops it.

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>>163406093

>>163410049
It's not nuked sand though.

>>163410049
Gorgeous.
How many thousands of dollars would that cost?

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I want to have vicious sex with malachite

>>163408847
>>163409360
I like orthoclase.

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>>163410243
the high quality stuff is worth more than the copper inside of it, I'm not sure but it's not cheap stuff.

it's a life goal of mine to have malachite and silver dishware.

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>>163410371
there isn't much in the way of good looking yellow stone for building.

>>163410680
I hate you guys, it seems for these few years the only one who can see the true beauty of orthoclase is me. I'll show you all, I'm going to with nothing but the stuff. Then you'll see from the Beholder's eye.

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Cinnabar master race

>>163411108
*mercury poisoned to death*
I can't wait until toady adds mercury and cobalt and other metals.

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>>163408847
>feulcvkes

>>163411219
>Doesn't pave, construct, and make everything with cinnabar for that permanent blood red look.

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mmmmm cobaltite

>>163411389
I usually use microcline, cobaltite, black bronze and rose gold for that vaporwave look. cobaltite and rose gold is probably my favorite combination in game.

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Check this schist out.

>>163406616
I can't wait for the prostitution arc to come out so I can whore out my elven boipussy to swarthy adventurers for loads of coin.

>>163411893
become blocks for my floors, bitch.

So will the rapist be stuck in update hell like DFhack or am I being retarded again and not looking hard enough?

>>163412261
There's been a current dfhack for months now, there was another update a few days ago. So no update hell there. Therapist never ever.

>>163412261
rapist isn't looking so good
lucky dfhack is fine

what wall can I build that niggers can't climb

I just realized I'm a dumbass and the first DFHACK alpha was still on the OP. So I fixed that.

>>163413845
one that's 2 z-levels high
alternatively, dig a moat

>>163413962
A creature that can climb up one z-level is almost never going to be stopped by a second.

>>163413845
Build an overhang.

>>163414185
overhang?

>>163413845
_#
][ g <- with overhang, no climb

g
][g
][ g <- 2-z no overhang, easy climb

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does this still happen

>>163414321
Yeah a floor/fortification/wall built on the first adjacent tile of open space on top of the wall in the direction enemies will come from.
Side view:
z2: OOW
z1: OWOgggg

O=open space
W=wall
g=goblin

>>163414185
right, my bad
I was thinking of evil clouds

If the location is underground, smoothed stone is supposedly unclimbable

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anything like this but updated?

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>On my way to get murdered by a dragon
>Get stopped by a shrine
>This

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>>163380927
>>163380927
>>163380927

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>>163414940
I thought I'd stand a chance since it was made out of mud.

>>163414602
Dwarves still take "pickup equipment" jobs for unfilled clothing slots when clothing becomes available, if that's what you're asking.

>>163414847
There's nothing to update. All of those industries are still in the game and have functioned pretty close to unaltered since their introduction.

>She dreams of ruling the world

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>>163415248
Nigga kicked your finger so hard your hand flew off, daaaang.

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Guys, I just had a major idea while taking a shit

What if in Adventure mode you can train animals to be trackers?

Not just like the Tracker skill for tracking other animals, but for historical figures as well?

>>163416537
what if in df if you could take your own shit

>>163416825
and then throw it at the mayor

>>163416825
Dwarves actually shitting and pissing would make the game much harder. Imagine actually having to have some form of outhouse or actual plumbing

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>>163417391
I actually want this. I still get called a scat lover every time I mention it though. I hate Filth_Y and Filth_B just as much as the next guy but, its a part of life and even the Romans had to take care of their business.

>>163417391
>fortress plumbing
I hope it has a grate to retrieve children and babies that fall into the toilets.

>>163417591
magma-heated baths?

I got some delicious yetis caged up.
How do I eat them?

>>163417591
>>163417654
Health and Hygiene arc when?

>Urist cancels Milk Animal: Dysentery

>>163417591
>>163417591
Due to the complexity of DF this has been suggested before and Toady replied something along the lines of I don't want DF to be "that game with poop in it".

>>163415248
>Wool clothing
>Not having metal armor
That's why you died.

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>>163418208
But...DF already is "that game with poop in it."

>>163418208
But vomit and unprecedented amounts of violence are okay?
He doesn't have to make it realistic, just enough so that a large fortress will actually have to create a shithole for people to use or people might get sick from the amounts of "feces" everywhere

Also what about animal poop being added and poop being used as a fertilizer because fuck making potash

I have not played this game in something like over 3 years and I have completely forgotten how to play.
anyone kind enough to tell me is any major shit has been added and if it is worth getting back into it due to having to learn it all over again

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>>163418609
>Unknown substance
>White, liquid

>>163417591
ScatAnon is at it again!

>>163418641
>>163418208

I wouldnt mind the option to drown elves in a pit of shit desu

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LOL

>>163418780
>I haven't ridden a bicycle in something like over 3 years and I have completely forgotten how to ride.
There's no shame in not having played the game before.

>>163418548
I don't know where to find good weapons and armor. Everything is wilderness or a shitty hamlet.

>>163417859
I got six now. Gathering dust.

>>163419724
well to be fair, when I last played I mostly played adventure mode exclusively and never touched fortress mode, its too complicated for me

>>163417859
butcher them

>>163419786
>(z)
>go to the Animals tab
>mark your yetis with (b)
>enjoy yeti intestine roast

>>163418609
You have to do some digging for that, casual players don't run into this kind of information.

Is /v/ dying? Seems like fewer threads and much slower posting. I haven't been there for months and decided to visit. Also an entirely new shit meme of just replying "fuck you". Why and what?

But to stay on-topic though I had a question about mods and utilities. I'm not good with DFhack and I always needed therapist to do anything well in my fort. Is that addon still working? I want to get into df again and make these holidays go swimmingly. I admit I used LNP, but only for sound (music really set a great mood), therapist and tiles. Also easy quick way to set max dorf count and all.

>>163421581
Post frequency goes down the further you are away from summer, sadly post quality doesn't change

>>163403217
>>163404982
Somebody make this happen

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>>163403217
>You win again, gravity.

Whats a decent fort layout i can try other than a central staircase. I saw some video of a guy channeling down in a big spiral that seemed interesting

>>163421581

>fuck you

Was it a gachimuchi thread?

>>163368403
But it's not 4x6.

>>163423317
>not having a central staircase which is actually one big pillar balanced on a [S]upport, with bridges linked to it, which can be collapsed when !!!FUN!!! happens

>>163423317
>gachimuchi
no, just some shitpost thread with a screenshot from super mario bros 2 of luigi riding an egg and one guy saying "fuck this meme" and of course 20 replies of "fuck you"

think its a sign of getting older when you see memes like this and you can't find it in you to lurk to figure them out so you just ask because you can't be bothered to give the discovery even the slightest amount of emotional investment

tl;dr - i don't mind if i don't know or get it

>create my first world
>its filled with places that have names like 'swamps of disembowelling' and 'the dunes of death'
well, thats one way for a game to make a first impression.

>>163403106
that's actually pretty funny good anon

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>break up a robbery before it gets started
>dudes are all near a well
>knock the three that are still breathing into it
>get an idea when I see how high the roof beside the well is
>*ding ding ding*

>>163424215
The names are fitting, the first has, at best, living giant alligators, possibly zombie ones, the latter might have fun stuff like giant zombie camels or zombie vultures and whatnot.

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>>163425507
>line up a standing jump from just behind the edge
>elbow drop straight into the well and land on all three of these poor fucks
>huge cloud of mist shooting up after I hit
>tfw you discover you need to figure out how to rig up a campsite gladiator arena

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>>163425648
>good thing the ref got distracted

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>>163425868
>that referee has gotta be blind AND deaf if he didn't see and hear that one
>hell, Reg, I felt it from all the way over here in the booth!

how do I use a pond to make farm plots underground

>>163426769
Just build the farm plots in a sand or soil cavern, m8.