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Tom Clancy's The Division General /divg/

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Finally Alive (?) Edition

I will post this general everyday until you like it

>Update 1.5 patch notes
http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-us/news/152-275402-16/the-division-update-15-survival-patch-notes

>Twitter/Forum
https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame
http://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/498-The-Division?s=05301fb84bc812f6898090faf8670414

>Best guide is best
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g6wkNuXw0VJiymTqa79Yze7iJPNjMi35zerzd31fN6M/edit#

>Wiki is dead but we have this
http://divisionfieldguide.com

We have a Discord: https://discord.gg/mG7Sjcu

Last Wave: >>162934549
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I've been curious about this game for a long time, but I've heard bad things about the endgame.

How different would you say the game is now compared to Launch?
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Oh shit are we finally back bois?
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>>163209505
A lot.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRqAFrMsA3Q&t
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>>163209505
it's actually fun now compared to release day.

the endgame isn't even bad. You have incursions, survivals, underground, the dark zone, and a fuckton of things to do after the main story is beaten.
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>>163210319

the world level thing alone is probably the best addition. now you have a reason to dick around the entire city instead of strictly in LMB endgame town
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>>163209891
>>163210319
>>163210656

So basically the same as Rainbow 6 Siege where it was kind of a dumpster fire, until a patch rectified most of the problems and showed the game's true potential.

Thanks agents, I'll be make sure to get this game on sale for boxing week.
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>>163211586
Exactly.
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I bought it 4 days ago and I really like it. It still is a ubishit title, so I has many bugs and my game keeps randomly crashing, but I can live with it.

I hope the endgame is fun too.
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>>163213150
what's your gpu?
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>>163213310
a gtx 1060
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>>163213391
so basically a reskinned 980 model
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>>163213525
And your point is?
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>>163213649
game has had an issue with 900 series since release.
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>>163213774
Now if we take the fact into consideration that the 1060 isn't a reskinned 980 this conversation did lead nowhere.
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>>163214291
>being in denial this much
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When should I do the Underground DLC? Is it worth running it?
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>>163216295
When you hit 30 and at WT 5

its an endless repeatable farm dungeon that changes everytime you do it

You should do it if you want to farm PVE
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>>163209334
Is this game actually good?
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>>163222051
leveling? No. Max level content? Yeah kinda.
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>>163222051
Imagine borderlands in new york city
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>>163229231

Is The Divisions's gunplay really that bad?
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>>163217389
I am new just got to 170ish ilvl and I was wondering what w5 means? Also I just have the base game for now but I will be buying the dlc later, but my main way of gearing is dark zone and daily world quests. Is this the fastest way for someone with the vanilla game? Also I am running flame turret and the mine that splits into a million mines, this sound alright?
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>>163230381
Imagine borderlands in new york city with good gunplay
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>>163231091
open map, hold G, WT is World Tier, which means higher the WT stronger the enemeis and better the loot.

Spamming missions is faster i think. Just spam the fastest daily missions for fast loot.

DZ is broken as shit right now, also filled wiith fun-hating ganksquads.

Skills are build dependent most of the time, so if you don't have a build, just use the ones that do most damage or most heal.
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>>163231510
Oh, I am at work so I am probably just on the normal baby tier. It would also help to do more missions because each of my wigs still need the 1000 point unlock. Thanks for all the help, hope to run into you guys out there one day;)
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>>163233858
You can't get supplies from missions more than once

Farm those events on the map boiiii
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>>163231290
and no memes
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>>163239641
Yeah there is a Lack of memes indeed
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>>163190317
I have a better version of AMD's 7870, an FX-4350 and 8GB of RAM.
Game runs fine in mostly low settings, in 1920*1080.
Framerate does drop down a bit at times, but it doesn't go far and doesn't feel choppy when it does.

>>163231290
It's not good gunplay, it's just not the worst.
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I just started playing at the free weekend

aiming for alpha bridge ak-47/74 build
what I am in for?

also, what's the best place to farm alpha bridge pieces solo?
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>>163251447
anywhere. everything is based on an rng system. random red health dudes can drop them as much as other dudes can.

A good place to start is Lexington event center. once you're bored of that, or develop a set that fits your play style, you can move on to incursions and farm those. Turn your credits into phoenix credits every so often with the basic caches sold by vendors then roll those. Then use the phoenix creds to buy things from the underground vendors.
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>>163252674
thank's senpai
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>>163252674
>anywhere. everything is based on an rng system. random red health dudes can drop them as much as other dudes can.
Not even weighted to make tougher enemies more likely to drop better stuff? You're literally better off spending 5 minutes killing two dozens reds than spend 5 killing three yellows?
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>>163252793
yellow dudes drop more items and have a "higher chance" of dropping things. More often than not it's junk. It's kind of like raffle tickets. A red dude gives you 1 ticket. where as a gold dude gives you three tickets.
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Is this game any good?
Played the free weekend and reached lvl 26 and went through almost everything. Kinda ok...but getting repetitive. I like the DZ.
Should i buy it?
Is there an endgame? Is it good? Or you just loot till best in slot and die?
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>>163253004
Is this game any good?
yes
Is there an endgame?
yes. it involves you shooting dudes until they die.
Is it good?
It's kinda like a more fun less bullet spongy borderlands. The best loot in the game is hard to come by, and is entirely up to opinion because of varying play styles.
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>>163253198
Ok 17 euros its not much..but. Do i need DlCs?
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>>163255128
Buy gold.
Season pass will give you all the content DLCs and an outfit pack.
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Anyone else having connection issues on PS4? Was playing fine a bit ago and now getting Mike/Delta errors. Kicked me out of my third Survival Run
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>>163251447
Holy fucking how much did you nolife it?
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Newfag here, So what's the best way to make this shit less shitty? Should just keep dumping my credits into caches at the vendor? What should I do with the Phoenix credits? Safe and hope for something good? Or should I straight up buy the cheaper set cache and hope to complete my first set? What's the best way to get lots of PC? Or rather: What's the best way for me to grind some decent loot now?
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>>163260637
>no mods in any of the armor
>barely any in the guns

Run normal underground/HVTs/Daily caches and for fucks sake mod your shit.
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>>163260637
I'd say start farming some UG senpai. You should look up some build playstyle, find the one that seems fun and look for those pieces first (do not trash good-rolled pieces of other sets, they might always come in handy if you wanna switch build). Keep your flamingo florins to reroll weapons at first, once you find a decent one.
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>Enter dark zone.
>Just the bullet spongiest enemies short of bosses.
Is there ever any kind of skill involved in this game?
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>>163261175
If you can get headshots then only bosses are bullet sponges.
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>ID badges must be worn at all times
>don't have on
dropped
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>>163261456
I would if guns shot straight. It's not exactly my idea of fun to see bullets miss an unmoving head from 10 meters away just because it's an smg.
And yes, even when they're close enough to get it all in the face, still sponges. Sponges too with a marksman rifle and its fancy headshot damage bonus.
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So from looking at videos Alpha Bridge builds are the current hotness along with LVAOs?

Also how my PS4 bros liking survival? I find it to be extremely fun and a nice break from the underground/HVT/Daily grind
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>>163260837
Yeah, I forgot that the mods are not a consumable in the traditional sense. This is how it looks now after one round of survival.

>>163261119
thanks will try that.
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>>163266070
Your overall stat sheet damage and Toughness are in the ball park where they need to be. Electronics could probably stand to get a little more.

Now you are going to need to find a build and start getting the items you need for it. What talents are you using?

You're at the point of getting the gear you want/need for a build and fine tuning the rolls. Your phoenix credits, some say use them on gear, others say caches. I used mine on the vendor LVAO a few days ago and haven't used them since. Run 4 man UG to get gear. Test a solo Lexington on hard to see how you fair as well. If you can survive (which stat sheet wise you should be able to) then keep farming Lexington as well.
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>>163266070
Better.

But dont stack stamina, stack armor.

i have about 1k less stamina than yours and almost twice the toughness.

also look for builds, decide which one you want to run, and gear towards it, dont drop gear and decide what to based on your items.

a good armor item usually have armor as major and enemy armor damage/damage to elites as minor attribute
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>>163267585
>armor, not stamina
Is that valid below lvl30 too?
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>>163266753
Thanks. RIght now I'm using the booster shot heal, flame turret and recovery link. I used to have a bunch of ability power at tier 4 but since I got the higher gear it kinda dwindled.
for talents I'm using: Triage, Combat Medic, Strike Back and Precision.
Combat Medic and Precision are the only ones I really enjoy, the others are mainly to fill the slots. I considered wildfire for the turret, but decided against it because often enemies seem to stand further apart unless it's a small building or underground map.

I have no idea what kind of build I should go for honestly, so right now I'm gearing mostly towards more damage.

>>163267585
thanks for the tips.
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>>163268061
below level 30 you keep your gear for maybe an hour. go for what you get and move on.
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>>163268061
go nuts below level 30

even below WT5

Meta works when you are in WT5, anything else is just more DPS = faster you can reach endgame
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>>163268156
Don't gear just for damage. You won't survive long. Honestly go look at the set pieces or find a build. Don't waste talents "just to fill the slots". Talents are seriously amazing in this game, like one is none, or the suppressed = more damage talent (cant remember the name)
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not seeing any of the search and destroy shits on the map screen

help
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>>163268753
Once you're 30 the search and destroy objectives can be found at the safehouses in each section of the map. The intel directives max out at 99 and the HVT Daily/Weekly are in the security wing of BoO.

Just go to the situation board in a safehouse and it will give you a S&D objective for that zone.
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>>163268897
I did but nothing popped up. I saw them on the map when I was in the dark zone, but as soon as I went to a safehouse, I got nothing.
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>>163269137
The situation board didn't give one? Look at the map for the light blue icons?
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>>163269338
Turns out the one I went to, hadn't finished all the side missions on it. Christ I'm retarded.
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>>163266753
Why solo lexington? Is there any downside to playing with other people? Surely mowing down faster with 4 should give you faster runs and therefore more loot right?
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>>163271070
It's up to you really. I'm strong enough to solo through it rather quickly
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>>163271606
No I just wondered if there is any advantage to doing it solo vs just putting it on challenging and throwing yourself into matchmaking?
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>>163272375

there's always an advantage in doing it with other people, more firepower, you can get each other up, generic team support stuff
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>>163272375
Challenging will give you more rewards but you're risking being with shitters and those expecting to be carried
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>Items from the Dark Zone need to be decontaminated before use
>Items from Contaminated Zones can be used no problem, including clothing and food
>Items from the Dark Zone must be extracted via helicopter to be decontaminated
>Items from the Dark Zone cannot be decontaminated at checkpoints
>Either the player does not need to be decontaminated, or Dark Zone checkpoints lack the technology to decontaminate the people moving through them

What did JTF mean by this?
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Any ps4 players up for ug, weekly hvts, or farming missions?
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Hmmmm that's some tasty clipping there Division.
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>>163278396

hes just fishing for some snack
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3some seeker mines or flame turret?
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>>163260837
Wait so the HvT work as follows:
>you go to the boards around the city and they tell you to fuck some shit up
>you then get tokens as a reward
>you then use these tokens to get send on a timed daily or weekly kill mission

did I get thar right? how difficult are the hardest ones?
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>>163280747
You have that correct. The weekly hvts give the better rewards and unless you can solo challenge mode content you will need a group for the hardest
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>>163280747
Yes.

You can pretty much solo all the Dailies but most weeklies are hard to solo.
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>>163281069
>>163281116
If I search for a group does everyone need to take the mission or just the leader like in UG?
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Is there a way to buy a whole bunch of those? Or am I supposed to spam space a bit?
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anyone wanna do some content on pc?
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What's the best skills to use when your team mates are constantly dying and you are the only guy using medical skills?
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>>163248095
I played int he free weekend and I think the gunplay is pretty good
But it's a third person shooter that moves like a first person shooter and that's kinda awkward
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>>163283936
Yeah i wanna skip all the fucking levelling. Keep going back to Path of Exile for grinding joy because the levelling process is fucking tedious
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>>163285953
i-i was talking about end game content
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>>163286291
You can end my game by killing me
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pros only do not attempt
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>>163282441
just the leader
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>>163282696
spam or bust

>>163285175
revive first aid. its not a 100% but it can save the fight.

also the medbox with revive mod
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got killed by some fucking sad hacker squad

what the fuck man, let me enjoy the game, come at me without hacks you sad, sad man
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>>163288170

no one cares. this game has had hackers since beta.
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>>163288318

yeah but how the fuck haven't ubisoft done anything about it, siege has battle-eye on it and there's rarely any hackers
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>thread isn't already dead at this point
Sweet
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>>163288430

because siege is a multiplayer focused 'competitive' game. DZ is just an afterthought in a mostly co-op game.

just report, move on, and deal with it, you don't even need to go to the DZ for the best loot anymore.
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>>163288572
To an extent you don't. Some guns are still nice to have that are DZ only drops
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>>163285175
First aid station with revive. First aid with over doze and recovery link (side note it's amazing for solo play since recovery link now gives you an auto revive). Look at talents like combat medic, battle buddy and such for maximum healing/support.
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>ak-47 finally drops
>it's classic ak with kinda shit rolls
>meanwhile got like 10 all kinds of m4 drops
is it too much to ask for a nice cyka gun?
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is the vector still godlike or nah
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>>163290807
Nah. Smg been taking slight hits. LVAO is king of the Hill right now, besides sniper rifles.
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is there a guide on modding guns
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>>163295118
Here's your guide. This applies to everything except magazines.

Does it increase your DPS? If yes equip, if no then don't bother.
For magazines does it increase your ammo per magazine AND DPS? If yes then equip, if it increases ammo but not DPS then equip until you get one that does both.

It's that simple. It's not uncommon to find LMGs with 200+ magazines and ARs pushing the 100 per mag.

I exclusively used ammo extender magazines. Quick release and heavy spring were hot back in the day but changes to stats make them undesirable now a days.
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>sniper moves to aim out of cover
>shoots you a quarter of the way through the animation

nani
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Who /ps4/ here
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>>163301902
Sup? Taking a quick break to eat before getting back on. Probably gonna go survival again. Haven't since I was disconnected this morning. Been farming Lexington
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Any ps4 Bros Jeep getting disconnected during survival? Shit is getting annoying now.
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1 of my 3 characters!
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>>163309842
Man, I freaking put AB on the other day 'cause I have a good LVOA and a good FAMAS, and my effective DPS went down from just using the LVOA with strikers.
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>>163302334
If you or anyone else wants to team up and do whatever add me on PSN, I'm pretty tired of getting gangbanged in the dark zone senpai
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>>163310251
I only go into the dark zone these days to do the daily/weekly and survival.
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>>163311302
I barely play it since I've been doing underground and daily/weekly, probably why I've got such a thirst for it.
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>>163309842
second of my 3 characters, this one also has all Banshee gear in inventory, I go in DZ several hours a day.
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>>163297559
the fuckin WORST
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>>163312645
And my third character, the 1 I played most with, she was my first character ever.
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>>163309842
>>163312645
>>163313147
I play on PC only!
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>>163313532

who even asked you
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new guys here la

is there any difference in loot quality if you went in higher tier DZ zones or is it better to farm shekels and gear item at place you are most familiar with?
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>>163318519
no. loot quality is determined by yout WT. at WT5 youll get the same ilvl items from LZ, missions, incursions, DZ etc.
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>>163313726
Go fuck yourself little twat!
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>>163313726
small penis problems?
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>>163318519
The only time there is a difference is named loot. Some only drop from certain bosses, (like Barrett's chest piece dropping from the Lexington boss), and others like the hungry hog have a chance to drop from named bosses in the dark zone only.
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tfw no exploits
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Is Pulse: Tactical that much better than Pulse: Recon? I feel that the shorter cooldown makes recon much better?
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aside form DZ02 rooftop extraction zone, where is the easiest one to defend alone la?

also is there any difference between blue/yellow/purple enemies? or is it just their groups? motherfucker in yellow keeps kicking my ass and they are usually in larger groups
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>>163330768
Reds are generic enemies, they die rather quick
Purples are a bit tough
Yellow are the hardest

As for extractions, are you talking about DZ or survival?
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Whats the best link for DZ? How about Hard+ PvE? I'm feeling Survivor as 80% damage resistance seems OP?
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>>163333109
Recovery is good for group support and is also good for solo play with the auto activation at 0 hp effect.

Tactical is very fun to use and can be pretty effective in nearly every situation in the game where you feel like killing shit faster, pve and pvp alike.

Survivor used to be OP as fuck a long time ago, now it ahs some compitition thankfully it's no longer just a press to win button. Even so, the damage reduction can certainly come in handy for group and solo players alike in tricky situations, esspecially in the DZ, and the speed boost can be nice either for catching up to or running away from others.

Really it all comes down to whats you want out of your ult, as their all pretty viable now. Supportive role? Recovery. Higher damage output? Tactical? General utility and survivability? Survivor.
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I'm only level 15 up to now and just tried out an LMG for the first time having used ass rifle and marksman since the start and I love this shit.

My question is, is LMG + Marksman endgame viable and how would I build it?
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>>163341093
It is since bolt action snipers have the highest base damage in the game. A quick Google will give you the answer you seek. There's two sets that are for sniping. One has to do with damage to distance and the other is head shot damage (I believe)
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>>163333109
All depends on if you are solo or not. The current 1.5 solo end game content build utilizes tactical link with certain weapon skills and gear it basically is up 100% of the time in combat.

In 1.4 it was recovery link because of the 0 HP auto heal.

Generally if I am running in a group I will have tactical link, unless no one else has recovery link. Solo I am running recovery since I don't have the gear to run the solo challenge mode yet. Pvp all depends on your preference. Its like the other anon said the ultimates are now designed in a way that it comes down to personal preference. Not like back at release where you needed the blue ultimate in the DZ.
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>>163330768
Yeah it's called stop doing the dark zone. There is no reason to do it outside of the daily / weekly assignments. Unless you really want the named guns that drop in there that bad.
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>>163346786
cant do daily/weekly if im not 30

running smokeballs with shotgun is fun, wanting to test riotshield + secondary weapon but all i found is just gun or magnum, all smg i found at this point is 2handed

back to farming and lvling
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>>163347386
You won't be able to use an Smg with the riot shield until 30 and it's a 4 set bonus. It allows you to use the Smg but the Smg takes a hit to crit.
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This goddamn sniper keeps fucking popping up and headshotting me the moment they do this is absolute bullshit
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anyone wanna farm dz credits on pc?
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>>163347386
I think you misunderstood the riot sheild build. The 4 piece D3-FNC gear set bonus lets you use any SMG with your shield but the SMG crit chance is reduced to 0%. Otherwise all SMGs are two handed.
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>>163330768

all of them are easy when you have smoke balls and flashbang stickies. you just stun all of them and deliver while they're blind
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Who the fuck made these NPCs?

Weird mum soldier? Guy that won't shut up about being an actor soldier? Germophobe soldier?

Who thought this would be interesting or funny?
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>>163360330
Eh at least it brings a little variety to the JTF officers at each hideout. The mafia one is the best one.
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>>163360330

you can just turn the voices off if they're that annoying to you.
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>>163224927
Leveling content and story is way better than endgame.
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>>163360330
They are National Guards, so it is kind of fitting. Wait until you get to the Yoga nut.
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Found the Ninja turtles reference
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how am I doing for 2d+ of playtime?
still need to find a good ak-47/74 and switch out gloves for crit chance ones and find alpha holster
also firearms armor mods
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>>163375335
Hey that's pretty good.
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So, just hit level 30, did a Lexington run to get a feel for this new marksman rifle I got, saw this supply drop at the end so I decided to try it out. Still don't know what to do now.

Fuck grenadier squads.
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everything is fire
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>level 30 for 2 days now
>feel geared enough to not be useless
>run lexington event center on challenging for the first time
>barret chest drops
>read that it's really rare and good
>accidently sold it to a vendor at some point
>can't get it back
JUST
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>>163380567

its not on your buyback list?
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>>163380756
Does the buyback stay there after you go through loading screens and did more missions?
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>>163380834

buyback stays for a very long time
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>>163381043
I checked and it's not there. At least I still have my showstopper. Oh well.
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i'd like to nominate rollermine as the official waifu of the division
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>>163379353
What shotgun is that? How do so many pellets hit a target that far? +accuracy out the ass?
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>>163378482
Those supply thing happen twice a month for Season Pass owners.
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>>163382916

870 express with a 27% accuracy laser + and 16% accuracy sight, the gun itself isn't all that accurate. if you want stupid pinpoint accuracy on a shotgun try using the saiga
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>>163384379
Are shotguns ever worth it before you have such high level mods? The time I tried, it looked like my sidearm was better by virtue of hitting more often.
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>>163384827

shotguns aren't top tier but they can be at least serviceable if you get good perk rolls. the big thing with tube shotguns is stacking reload speed, don't bother with range because you're just gonna get negligible increases.
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Do i need survival DLC to enjoy this game?
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>>163385558
Do you need an orange to enjoy an apple?

Survival just adds a game mode where you, well, try the survive in the blizzard with minimal equipment.

Main game has a lot to offer but Survival is the most fun thing to do in this game if you ask me.
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>>163385558
Survival is amazing imo. It's adds a sense of planning and actually needing to figure out how you're goingnyo accomplish your objective. Plus the sense of stopping could mean your death in pvp or a wrong turn could mean your death via npcs.

Almost extracted earlier. Had about a minute left and both hunters were almost dead when throwing beast mode and raped my fire team. Most exciting and fun time I've had in the division to date.
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best pistol for maining ballistic shield?

also, should i run assault mod for the stat increases or reactive targeting for the shield health?
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>>163388472
MP7
and yes, assault.
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>>163388472

imo the 1911 is the best all-around handgun. all the high-cap pistols require you to really mash the fire button to get worthwhile dps and the revolvers have stupid recoil and no magazine mod.
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>>163388986
assume i dont have the ability to run an SMG

>>163389115
that's kind of how i was leaning. ive been spending a lot of time with an M45A1 but im starting to outlevel it and the only drops i seem to get are the Px4s
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>>163388472
First wave x45, I believe is what it is, has one of the highest burst dps for pistols right now.
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>>163389262
Don't use a shield then.
Not like it is hard to build sets, I had one of each in 256 after like a week of playing a couple hours a day.
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>>163390146

shield builds are viable with handguns, maybe not endgame challenge difficulty viable but it doesn't seem like hes at that point yet.
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>>163324193
Bullet king was patched?
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