/rpgmg/ - rpgmaker general

First post for it's time to post some progress Anons.
What are you working on?

oh finnally. Ive been watching this thread for days

>>163072015
I just had a fresh idea but I'm looking for a neat way to put it all down. I don't want to use a word processor. I'm thinking of learning LaTex and formating all my thoughts that way.

>>163072562
I'm not familiar with that program but what is your idea about?

>a bunch of posts at the end of last thread telling other people to make a new thread
>no one is willing to do it themselves
Fegs.

>>163073219

Okay, basically it revolves around one guy.

Also this is a rough draft so I am still very much in the planning stages.

The main characters starts to get curious about the religion that his people follow. He distrusts something about it. To cure his curiosity, he decides to join the temple of the religion in hopes that it will shed light on his possible ill-conceived impressions.

After joining, he overhears a conversation that startles him from some of the highest members. Then he sneaks into one of their rooms to find more info. What he finds strikes him so deeply that he immediately leaves. He leaves the temple. He leaves the town. He runs away to a mountain that is nearby. He enters a cave near the top of the mountain to think about everything he's learned.

It is here that he hears a voice. His torch goes out and he starts to freak out. The voice continues to speak to him, telling him personal information that only those close to him would know. Then the voice reveals itself as a god. He explains how he has seen what has happened to his people but is not angry or upset. The god explains his design philosophy for his people. He knew that it was one possibility out of many. He also debates with the main character about what he learned at the temple and whether or not it is actually just.

Then he talks to the main character about possibly being the messiah to bring the people back to him.

Main character's choice TBD.

>>163074056
Interesting idea but I wonder what could be so monstrous that the MC immediately loses his faith.
If you are up to it you could make two stories, one in which the MC becomes the Messiah and one where he declines.

>>163074725
I was contemplating making that whole description the game. It would be pretty dialogue heavy though. I'd prefer to make a game with lots of dialogue choices that the player can make.

However, this story is much better told as a linear one with few choices. But I could actually cut down the whole temple part to free up much more time for the main character coming down from the mountain.

Basically the temple is actually not telling the truth. Their religion is not based on a true God, or at least not anymore. It is more of a institution that structures the lives of the people. It helps the people be more moral, live in safety and keep them prosperous. Yet the entire thing is based on a huge lie. Also they purposely fake "miracles" to keep the faith high.

The main character is torn between exposing the temple and creating absolute chaos in his civilization or not saying a word and letting his people stay moral and prosperous but live a lie.

Then meeting a real god complicates things for him even more. I think that would be a good place for the game to actually start taking off for the character.

>>163074943
That is an interesting dilemma. I would like to play a game about this, I'm interested how the MC would fight against the temple. Pretty sure if he would simply scream the truths in the streets he would get branded a heretic and would get captured pretty fast while achieving nothing.
So he needs to be cunning and collect hard evidence, kinda like a detective/spy. And these are the stories I really like.

For a second I had to think about the movie Soylent Green. While it has nothing to do with religion the MC also found the truth about a pretty big lie. But he told others about it as soon as he could.

>>163075839

You're exactly right. How could one person go against a huge power structure and not seem like a crazy fool? Or alternatively, could he break the hearts of his people who believe that there is a god watching over them?

I'm getting the story down pretty quick but I don't know how many other mechanics I will put in the game. A battle system seems nice but is it worth it to the player? I'll more than likely add inventory to the game(plot items and such). I want to add a journal system that shows the thoughts of the main character and explains quests from his point of view.

>>163072015
Ending and a secret room similar to FF's dev room.
I was wondering which cool things I can put there other than some secret party members and special battles, any ideas?
In post game, there is also a way to immediately reach LV.99 immediately

>>163072474
But it was only just made! How can you have been watching it?

>>163076478
kek. Not this thread, I meant the OTHER thread. Sorry for the vagueness.

>>163076225
I don't think a normal battle system would be best suited for a game like this.
You could have a battle system which would be like a debate, where you try to convince the other party with evidences and truths you found while also countering their arguments. Maybe at the beginning they won't listen to you at all and you need to shake their faith (HP) first before presenting something.
Maybe it would seem a little silly but it would be kinda unique.

>>163076760
That sort of reminds me of the debate system in Phoenix Wright It would be neat to have a system like that. Although that has a judge to determine the outcome of that "battle"

Or perhaps it could be like a mini-game

>>163076760
>>163077075
>Danganronpa.jpg

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Good night bump

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>>163072015
Trying to get into the art stuff and draw some character sprites even though I have no experience on that, but I'm kinda stuck. Which of these two look better? She's supposed to be a female kobold, but I get the vibe that something is missing.

Man, doing your own art is H A R D

>>163072562
>>163074056
>>163074943
Do you see any particular advantage in using LaTeX for that?
I've used it a bit before, and while it does give you a neat finished product, Word or OpenOffice is better for quickly jotting things down.

>>163080962
Right is better, the bust is more defined. But both work well on their own.

>>163081049
I'd prefer doing my own art for a shit looking game instead of using pre-made material for an ok looking game.
Shit looking looks worse but...it's yours.

I made some shitty sprites and tiles for the main room where the action in my game takes place, but now I can't figure out how to import tiles properly.
I try to import some of the tiles as ground tiles, so I can put them in the bottom layer, but this just isn't working. I tried reading through the help files, but I'm too dumb to understand how to format my stuff correctly.

Since it's around the holidays, and most people should(probably) be a little free around this time, how about a small game jam to liven this place up?

also bump

>>163087848
I'm into it, what did you have in mind?

>>163088221
I haven't thought of a theme yet, maybe have some of the folks here think up a theme people can be satisfied with?

As for a timing, a month might be reasonable for it, right?

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How do I use this? Need muslim clothing...

Does anyone have a link to the RPG Maker DS generator parts for Game Character Hub?

>>163088871
How about something where you're ONLY allowed to use the default maps in VX Ace/MV and RTP (or character gen) assets?

Like, you're not allowed to change the maps visually AT ALL except for adding doors and shit. You can of course make NPCs, chests, events, etc though. And so you have to make the most interesting thing possible with that limitation?

>>163088905
>Mudslime headscarves
Yeah no, I'm not gonna help you cover up sexy waifus because your stone age religion hates women.

>>163090171
That's actually pretty interesting. Would save a whole lot of time for people too. I'm game for that.

Agreed on a month for making it then?

>>163090171
Would save a bunch of time, but the default chibi art of MV makes me want to throw up.

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>>163090325
Sounds like a good time frame.

Actually, I had proposed this on the RPG Maker forums a while back. Here's the specifics of my original idea (copied from the thread).

You would only be allowed to use:

- Default assets (graphics, music, etc), NOT including any DLC.

- Default maps (the premade ones that you can load), not being allowed to modify the map itself, only being able to place events, with restrictions on event visual elements (I'll explain this more below).

- Only able to use default plugins that come with the program, if any.
The big thing here being the restriction on maps. You can't make your own maps, and you're only allowed to use events for certain purposes, for example:

- General events that have no visual elements and do not affect your ability to move around the map (i.e. an invisible wall) are generally okay and you can use whatever event commands you want in them.

- NPCs can be added anywhere so long as they don't exist to deliberately clutter or make the map layout change (for example, you can't subvert the rule on map layouts by building walls of NPCs).

- Chests follow the same rule as above - you can place them anywhere you like as long as you're not trying to deliberately manipulate the map layout by placing random chests to block off certain areas. You don't have to put items in chests either, you could hide them in objects like pots, barrels, bookcases, etc, too, as long as they aren't new event objects.

- Signs denoting things like Inns, Shops, etc are fine, as long as they don't obstruct the player's path.

- Events to serve as save points are allowed but follow the same rules as NPCs and Chests.

Pic related is an example of what would and would not be allowed.

>>163090262
who's covering sexy waifus? just covering the mudslime women. Game will pretty much make fun of Islam at times

>>163090907
Sounds pretty good. How many people here are interested then?

>>163093335
Well, I'd be interested, seeing as how I'm the one who suggested it.

>>163092337
I have to wonder who your audience is, then.
If you're covering the subject AND making fun of it, you're surely going to please nobody?

>>163092337

That's a lot of work to put into what basically amounts to epic racist shitposting, anon.

So, anyone making any progress on that Goblin Slayer Helmet?

>>163080962
Right has more depth, but either way it looks like a green cat. It needs a little more scraggly hair or teeth, or something

>>163080962
What about the right one, but removing the black outline around the belt?

Messing around with MV scripting, looking into making my own alternative to Window_Selectable. I need to be able to offer choices across multiple windows rather than a list of choices within one window. It shouldn't be too hard I think.

Can someone help me with something?

https://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/class-system/

Can anyone tell me if there's a way to call the class change scene via a script call? I can't seem to find a way to do that. I want to have an event that you have to speak to in order to change your class, not be able to change class at will from the menu.

>>163094273
some of the npc's will be wearing hijabs

>>163104837
You can simply disable the class menu using a switch and enable it when you talk with this NPC, call the menu via event command and then disable it again

>>163105652
Hm... But that would seem... tacky, no?
Like "Here, I'll open your menu for you so you can change your class!"
I'd much rather be able to open the scene itself by speaking to the event and then closing the scene when you back out of it.

>>163105960
I don't know much Ruby scripting, but I think it's
something like this

SceneManager.call(Scene_Class)

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>>163106315
Tested it myself in a new project, it works.
As soon I interact with an event with said script call, pic related shows up

>>163106315
>>163107031
That seems to work! Thanks!

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Selection across multiple windows works!

Drawing the highlight under the selected option is still broken though.

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Progress!

Now the only thing left to do is figure out how to get the selection to pulse like the rest of the menus do.

Stay with me! Don't leave me again!

>>163113138

That's coming together nicely, anon.

>>163081557

Sorry for the late reply.

Well I have been looking for an alternative for writing my stuff down. I use Linux and I like to keep my workflow on this OS. I boot up Windows 7 for playing games and making my RPG maker games. I want something that is pretty compatible for cross platform. Sometimes Word and OpenOffice or LibreOffice will corrupt files or make them formatted weird. I was thinking of saving my stuff as PDF's since they are stable and won't corrupt easily.

I have not yet started using LaTex yet but it looks simple once you learn the tags. I want to be able to get down all of my ideas and not be too worried about formating. At least at the beginning. Since I'm not yet using LaTex I'm using a program called Plume Creator to outline the general story for my game. Also I'm using Centx to plot out the actual dialogue since it lends it self to quickly format and export PDF's with script writing format.

>>163118908
Whoops, I meant Celtx, not Centx.
I don't even know what that is.

>>163118908
Don't underestimate the Power of Plain Text(TM).

http://pastebin.com/uxDVn1J7

>>163120387

Wow. I like that a lot. It kind of reminds me of Emacs. Especially with the lists thing.

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>>163120387
>public static void main(String[] args){

>System.out.println("I love you.");

> }

Oh gosh

Alive

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What do you guys think of this interface?
It still needs some adjusting of course, but I mean the general layout.

>>163126395
I prefer vertical lists of options rather than horizontal.

>>163126395
I think it looks alright

How the fuck do I actually write a story

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>>163126395
Any chance you could get the top more like this? The varying amounts of squishedness on the options is triggering me.

>>163131153
Don't worry, I'll fix it. Like I said, needs some adjusting.

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>>163131637
Oh, cool. That aside, I think it looks good, but "Galt" after the gold is redundant and a bit distracting - I imagine it'd look cleaner if you just remove it or make it Galt: 0.

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I'm working on a section of my game where you get sucked into a painting, and as such I'm redrawing a lot of the tilesets and sprites I'm using to give the area a more unique feel.

Drawing your own stuff is hard! But part of me wants to make my whole game like this now... at least then it's MINE, yknow? I'm not using any body elses art.... but I do really like the 16-bit style tilesets I've been using until now.

Argh! Game dev is hard!

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>>163126395
maybe it's just me

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>>163126395
try this.

made pictures bigger
Moved LV and class around

>>163132440
I will, I will. Like I said, needs adjusting. I literally JUST installed the script when I made the screenshot.

>>163133245
That's actually a feature of the script. But I'm thinking of ditching the 4 existing characters entirely and making the game have a class swapping system with characters who change costumes when you change classes, so I won't be using the face graphics in that case.

Also I'm surprised you actually took the time to draw that.

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>>163133245
>>163133657

I just think vertical menus look better.

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>>163133986
how about this?

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>>163133986
Well... this script doesn't appear to allow vertical menus...

This is what I'm using.

http://www.rpgmakercentral.com/topic/729-msx-scene-menu-mod/

Here's how it looks now. Better?
Also um.... I can't seem to figure out how to get it to remove the Galt line and change Gold: 0 to Galt: 0 (the name of the currency is supposed to be Galt).

Can anyone look at the script and tell me how to fix that?

>>163133102
Dude!!! I've been following your game for a few threads now.

For what it's worth, I think if you adopted the MS-Paint style graphics you could show a lot more character in the world and characters than you could with the 16 bit pixel graphics...
Especially if you want each of the slimes to have unique personalities. Just my initial thoughts.

>>163133986
It certainly gives it a more "classic" look. Though, it should probably be on the left for authenticity.

>>163134770
Try line 410 of the script for the Gold label.

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>>163134991
Okay that managed to change Gold to Galt but... I'm not sure how to get rid of that second Galt...

>>163135191
I can't into scripts but maybe try fucking with the currency_unit bit in
> draw_currency_value(value, currency_unit, 4, 0, 120)
?

>>163135468
Yeah I think that's it. I bet if you replaced it with a pair of empty quotes '' it would be left blank.

>>163135468
>>163135571
Nah that just makes the 0 disappear.

>>163135742
can you paste lines 408 to 420 from your code so we can see?

Don't forget to push your work to your remote repository, anon-kun! You don't want to lose all your work to a freak hard drive failure.

>>163135856
draw_currency_value(value, currency_unit, 4, 0, 120)
draw_text(4, 0, 120, line_height, "Galt:", 0)
draw_text(195, 0, 120, line_height, "Steps:", 0)
draw_text(390, 0, 120, line_height, "Time:", 0)
change_color(normal_color)
draw_text(195, 0, 120, line_height, $game_party.steps, 2)
@total_sec = Graphics.frame_count / Graphics.frame_rate
ora = @total_sec / 60 / 60
min = @total_sec / 60 % 60
sec = @total_sec % 60
tempo = sprintf("%02d:%02d:%02d", ora, min, sec)
draw_text(390, 0, 120, line_height, tempo, 2)

>>163136270
Oops, at the top above that says "contents.clear" on 408

>>163136396
maybe get rid of line 410
>draw_text(4, 0, 120, line_height, "Galt:", 0)

and see what that does

>>163136507
That line shows the "Galt:" at the beginning. That's what he wants to keep. He wants to get rid of the label after the number. I'm pretty sure that line 409 should do that.

>>163136669

Well he's drawing "Galt" twice.
409 draws what his database says is his currency, which is "Galt". I think that
> (value,
draws the number of that variable
> (currency_unit
will draw the "Galt" he wants

line 410 is drawing "Galt" specifically and puts it at 0.

>>163136994
409 draws "0Galt"
410 draws "Galt: "
Put it together and you get "Galt: 0Galt"
He wants "Galt: 0".

The way to do that is to change line 409, replacing currency_unit with an empty set of quotation marks:

draw_currency_value(value, '', 4, 0, 120)

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>>163137267
That one did it! Thanks!
And thanks to everyone else for trying to figure it out too.

>>163094273
>I have to wonder who your audience is, then.
Anon, you do realize this is "nobody actually releases anything: the general" right? Who cares what he works on for a hobby.

is there anywhere I can find old /vg/ RPG maker games? Also which games are the best?

Today's Song of the Day (The Artists Are Fucking Furries Edition):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jBDnYE1WjI

>>163139410
How do you decide on songs anyway? Any reasoning behind it or do you just pick songs at random?

>>163139885
It's whatever strikes my fancy that day. Maybe it's been stuck in my head, or maybe I already played it five or six times that day, it just depends. I try to filter my choices to things that aren't too niche or overplayed on the radio, but there's nothing special to it.

>>163140062
I see.
Well most songs you post are unknown to me so I often hear something new, that is nice.

>>163140551
Glad to hear. That's kinda my goal; I got the idea from some guy who would do "thread theme song" in the Insomnia GoG sales, and I found a bunch of cool songs because of him like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GhtZt2HYkM

Which show has a greater influence on your game?

Bojack Horseman or Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?

>>163140928
The 3rd Presidential Debate of 2016

>>163140928
>Which of these two shows you haven't watched has a greater influence on your game?
Jojo, of course.

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>>163139410
>Bald dude starts to dance
That was a good one.

>>163141237
Yeah great to see that Dobson can enjoy life.

>>163140928
Well, I don't know what Bojack Horseman is so I have to go with JoJo.

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>>163141320
That's HIM?

>>163142852
No it isn't him. Or is it?

>>163143467
Don't toy with my fragile emotions like this, anon-kun!

So... does anyone have the Game Character Hub RPG Maker DS DLC?

>>163144309
I'm sorry Anon-chan! I won't ever do it again.

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>Hardworking /rpgmg/ dev

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>>163147639
>somebody finally mentioned a manga I've been searching for (for like 3+ years) by name
>super excited, rereading it now
Progress!

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You are working hard, yes?

>>163149920
Hardly working, comrade!

I'm having a crisis here guys.

What do you think I should do? Regarding this post >>163133102

>>163150287
If it's any consolation, I do like the bottom portrait's are better. While it will be a pain in the ass, in the end, if you actually complete and release your game it'll feel worth it, because it won't look & feel like just another churned out RPG maker project.

>>163150287
Wait, are asking if it's worth it or something like that?
If so yes, it is.

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Hello it's me shit anon here to promote my shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRblmci0CJk

>>163072015
CCA RPG
Play as a dipshit college student and fight teachers. Equip students and recruit contraband.

>>163074943
Sounds like a book more than an rpg anon haha. But still I'd be down.

>>163126395
How nostalgic are you going with this? Have you tried different fonts?

>>163133102
>>163150287
Just an idea have you tried removing the black outlines and just blurring the remaining colors a bit?

>>163150603
I honestly thought about giving up making it a game and just making it a book. I'm really into writing right now and it may just be easier to do that.

>>163149920
Mostly just writing lots of notes. I have a few themes for each character that I want to cover (taking initiative, not being afraid of death, trusting your friends, not blaming yourself when things go wrong, dealing with betrayal), but no real ideas yet for stories to explore those themes.

>>163139410
>The Artists Are Fucking Furries Edition
I have noticed this too.

How would you make a boss battle feel grand anon? More than just another HP sponge or a puzzle boss, how would you make it a boss that feels gigantic to fight and that feels deserving of the title of final boss?

>>163152848
Have him kill one or some of your characters. Also maybe put a time limit on the battle. It puts stress on the player.

>>163152848
>entire game is completely devoid of magic, and divine intervention is the best you can hope for
>after tons of skirmishes balancing weapon against weapon, you get to the boss
>who throws a fucking fireball into 3-4 of your guys
If that's not a nut-kicker, I don't know what is.

>>163151119
I've considered doing the same, but my writing style wouldn't really cut it in book format, but would be perfect for an RPG. Problem is i just suck at coding and eventing to make a proper story happen the way I want it to.

>>163153093
he just fuckin throws a fireball at your hero kek.

I could imagine the youtube let's players overreactions to that shit as we speak.

>>163152848
Have the final boss mind control your party members, so your MC has to fight them one by one and defeat them all, only to be mind controlled himself and then need the rest of the party to team up to take him down, before one shotting the final boss because he's basically a pencilneck geek style character who can't take a hit for shit, and he used up all his magic/energy/whatever mind controlling your party members.

>>163152848
A long and hard but not unfair fight. If it is the final boss then the stakes are as high as they can be, everything needs to indicate this. You must give the player the feeling that failure is not an option. Music is very important, as well as the dialogue before and maybe during the fight.
If you have a dungeon leading to the boss then that dungeon needs to be very intense.
Also while it's pretty much a trope at this point I do enjoy bosses with multiple phases/forms.
It forces the player to make a new strategy while being pressured by an even stronger version of what he/she fought just before.

On a related note, I finished FF 15 the other day and was really disappointed by the last boss. The first phase was fighting him on pretty much equal terms which was good but it soon turned into another gimmick fight with "hold O to win". Come to think about it the only main story boss fight which was fun was against Aranea. Left a really bad taste in my mouth.

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>>163152848
Not some anthropomorphize abstraction of darkness or chaos or whatever. That's more of a force of nature than a personality or will.

I mean, if it is "evil personified" at least make sure it's done something evil. If it's just come into existence, have it bit the head off the edgelord that summoned it.

Actually. One writing tip I picked up from somewhere was to let the worst case scenario happen - and then make it worst.
So, for example, the hell dimension has just opened up. Now you could save the day at that point by slaying the final boss or whatever.
But instead, your waifu turns traitor and stops you. Time skip 6 months, humanity is enslaved, your waifu got knocked up. Everyone blames you. They killed your dog and fed it to you.

Now! Now you can kill the final boss.

>>163155927
>They killed your dog and fed it to you.
Over the fucking line, man.

>>163155927
>But instead, your waifu turns traitor and stops you. Time skip 6 months, humanity is enslaved, your waifu got knocked up. Everyone blames you. They killed your dog and fed it to you.
[x] genuflect

You enjoy playing games with loads of text, right?
Good.

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>>163156398
Writing 101: Kill your darlings.

Breath of Fire IV did something beautifully tragic. From the very beginning your 2 other party members are looking for their kidnapped princess (Who is their Sister and Girlfriend, respectfully.)
The room she's held in is above this floor of fleshy organs - to cut your way through and climb up you're instructed to get a special sword for killing immortals.
You finally reach the princess and it looks like she's ok. She thanks you for getting the sword and all that. How about leaving the princess and her boyfriend alone for a minute in this room with a queen sized bed...

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>>163158165
Turns out she's more than ok. She's actually, immortal. with the side effect that her body keeps growing. And the fleshy room you just climbed up was her lower half. Now you know why she's always seen in bed. Why you had to get an immortal killing sword. Why she asked her sister to leave them alone. The boyfriend, who has been really torn up about not protecting his princess, has to kill her with his own hands.
And when he leaves the room, he doesn't tell the sister what happened.

>>163158165
>>163158394
What the fuck

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>>163158394

>>163137884

Fuck you anon, I'll release my game once its done.

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>>163160431
>>163160507
*pomf*

>>163158165
>>163158394
I don't want to undermine you but Kill your darlings mostly refers to cutting stuff which isn't needed. Stuff that you (the author) really like but doesn't fit in the overall story. This can be a character, a phrase or even entire chapters. Sometimes you need to let go and disregard these ideas.

However, killing loved ones can have a really strong effect if it is done well. It allows for immense character growth while also affecting the player.
The problem is if you fail to affect the player then your effort will be wasted, even worse it can work against you.

I can only talk for myself here but I get annoyed by deaths which were put in for cheap drama/shocker moments. Most recent example would be Lunyafreya in FF15. She had like 5 minutes of screentime and these were all done in flash backs like 10 years ago. I wasn't able to bond with her but even worse she died a pretty pointless death. It didn't change the story at all. The more I think about FF15's story the more irritated I get, it's an absolute train wreck.

While I have played BoF4 I can't remember a thing about the story. I only remember Fou-Lu.
But her death really sounds tragic, what happens afterwards? How do the characters handle the situation?

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I've never made a sprite before in my life, but today I fucked around with the idea of making all of the graphics in my game by myself. Here's a first attempt at a human sprite... I'm pretty pleased with how it went.

>>163161942

Damn it slime guy, now I'm doubting myself and thinking I might as well make my own shit too. I was fine with rtp prior to this!

>>163160853

Should have watched the movie. She had plenty of screentime there.

>>163160853
>cutting stuff which isn't needed...but you really like.
That too. But you don't want you're prefect character to stay perfect. Bad things have to happen to them for conflict sake, e.g. Doctor Strange's car crash ruined his career as a surgeon and he effectively hits rock bottom before learning about magic.

>what happens afterwards?
Well that concluded the B plot. which made you aware of what the Governments and wars were working. Using "The Endless" to shape the world.
If this was Final Fantasy X, you just got through Bevel and learned an ugly truth. You're still fugitives on the run. The Aeon's (The endless) tell Tidus(Ryu) that he has to beat Sin (Fou-Lu) to end the cycle of death and destruction and free the The Fayth (The Endless)

The conflict drives the story forward. At least in the direction of someone or something that'll tell them what to do next. You make it look like everything is falling apart, but really the pieces are all coming together.

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Good night bump

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>>163162386
Try it! It's v rewarding even if the end product isn't "good", it's at least yours. Which is nice.

>>163165093

Most likely no. I'd go for something of the style that ancient dungeons or germania dlc has, which is far beyond my skill level and I can't be satisfied with some simple stuff.

>>163165567
Depends on the kind of game you're making, I guess. Mine is a very goofy/lighthearted game so the simple (bad?) art would work for it more than something serious.

>>163165739

Simple does not equate bad. Art you're using for your game suits it well. If I tried to push in simple art like that for my game, it'd be jarring, since it's a fantasy game that does have grit to it. I settled for darkened and slightly desaturated rtp+some FSM tiles.

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Any muslim clothes for women and men? can't find any :(

>>163166902
I've painted the hijab, decent? Or does it look like a trash bag?

Thread Healer used Bump!
/rpgmg/ recovers 9 pages!

Wew, that was close

Bump-a-doodle-doo! Let's work hard again today, /rpgmg/.

>>163175335
no

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>>163177434

Did I fucking stutter?

Is there any good autotile tutorial for RMMV?

>>163167397
it's pretty bad desu

use more reference material

Ey, niggas. I need a bit of help. I want to make a tutorial where player would be forced to use certain commands at certain points. I don't want them casting fire while the mentor is expecting them to use Attack Focus and then next turn to attack.

How would I go about disabling/guiding player's hand? I know I can force actions though battle eventing, but that does not include picking from the menu screen at all, so I'd like to avoid it.

I use Yanfly's stuff, so perhaps there's some plugin commands and shit? Help a nigga out.

Trying to make a game with OCD is hard :(

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>Nobody is talking about tomb of friends

>>163185848

I've been working a bunch of double shifts at work, literally haven't even had time to download it

>>163185848
If I haven't played the first one, will I not understand big parts of the second game?

>>163186649
There's just a few nods to the original iirc, and there's a quick recap at the beginning

>>163185848
This breaks my heart, but I understand people have stuff to do.
I updated the demo by the way, if any of you downloaded it and didnt play, grab the new version!

>>163165093
mate.

Make this the main artwork, it is gorgeous and suits your game super well.

>visit itch.io
>see hundreds of other projects better than mine
>no views
>see hundreds of stupid not-a-game, muh feelings simulators
>hundreds of comments and lets plays from excited fans

Why even breathe

How do you go about naming characters/enemies?

>>163193161
Mostly variants of real-life names.

>>163190143
Don't give up!

How cute is your game?

Show us.

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>>163186920
Don't be sad, I played it and absolutely love it!
Feels like a proper sequel and I enjoyed every second of it.
I was sad when I reached the end of the demo.
My highlights were the ticket seller, Not!Mettaton and the Bromance.

How do I get this guy?
Do I need to befriend the musician to the south first? If so how?

Any other Berliner devs?
Stay safe mateys. Glad I came home early to make progress.

>>163205162
Did something happen?

>>163205327
Yeah, some dickheads tried to ruin christmas
If I die before playing Steel Zeroes or Slime Quest I will be mad as hell

>>163205162
Glad your save, brohemoth.

>>163205579
Please stay safe and healthy Anon.
I'm also working very hard on my detective game so you can look forward to that too!

>>163204634
Thanks for the feedback!!
Here's a tip: Gamble your life away. That's a good way of making friends.

>>163204634
Oh wait no, you got that secret boy already. Did you play with the arcade cabinet in the casino?

>>163209117
Yeah I did.
I assume I'm missing the guy in the hotel who needs a healing beat.

>>163212274
Delete this, Horo with clothes is just a random shitty anime girl with animal ears.

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Stay alive

>>163205579
Oh gosh, anon :')
I'm working hard to get a demo out soon! Please stay safe out there.

>>163187174
Wow, thanks!
I think I am going draw my own art, I feel it gives the game much more charm.

Oh, it's one of these fast moving nights.

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Hey /rpgmg/
I've achieved first-base, releasing a demo on my RPG gay porn game.

It's up on itch.io
mutation.itch.io/scarlet-dream

>>163217770

Going to download this as soon as I can peel my family off of me.

>>163218010
>Mom get out I want to download this gay porn game

>>163217770
I'm not sure if I will enjoy it but I will take a look at it, just for you Anon.

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Ehehehe
This is like one minute into the game but I already like the music.
Props to you for including (optional) voice acting and drawing art. The battle animations are nice too.
But I think I stumbled across a bug.

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This is what my camping looked like after I could move and decided to camp and to talk to the party.

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I like the foliage you have used on the edges of the screen, it's simple but very effective.
I also walked onto the field and destroyed some crops, this isn't like my Harvest Moon games.

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I see what you did there. But man I really should learn moonrunes one day, all these untranslated games make me sad.
Little typo here, should be too instead of to.
Also the voice acting stopped, did I break something or is this intentional?

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It's really nice that you can interact with lots of things in this house. Found a new book and a drawing.

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Wait a minute, this design.

Okay, time to finally sink my teeth into the Tomb Friends 2 demo. Really loved the first one, hope Mega Meanie will show up again at some point.

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These guys were pretty tough.
I noticed that when the group does the victory pose this spawns beneath Myr.
Seems like a little graphic bug.

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>>163222083

It's silly but I got a little emotional over this.

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remember that insult mechanic from sly cooper 3?

>>163219992
Whoa thanks for all the screencaps and playing. I was going with the simplified black background because the campground is accessible from a few areas. The cutscene before was just an exception to look good- but I may change things if I can nicely do backgrounds for each area.

>>163220891
Not everything is voice acted, since there's a lot of little optional dialogs everywhere. I'll try to get all the important things voice acted.

>>163222415
It's supposed to be the lid of Anthier's flask. I'll try to make it look better to reduce confusion.

>>163223217
Maybe I should have used a spoiler for the picture.
Oh well.

>when the player dies he is teleported to a "room" with a single door where a Grim Reaper-like character is waiting for him
>items in the room that the player can inspect give him clues regarding whatever challenges got him killed
>when the player leaves the room he is teleported back to the last save point
I want to do this but I am certain that it is going to be bug ridden no matter what. Would it still be worth it?

>>163223264
You are welcome. I'm enjoying the game so far. But I must admit I'm really struggling against the normal enemies.
Is there a way to rest before the boss fight?
Am I supposed to grind somewhere?

>>163223902
If it's MV, I've written a script that lets you call common events at the end of every battle. Different events can be called for success, fleeing, and party wipe.

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>>163223952
The campgrounds heal you up- including the one right before the boss, and I tried to build it so you are about ready to beat the boss when you get there.
>Also the house with the book and picture too.
I'll double check with others playing and may ease up on the difficulty. Thanks for the feedback Anon.

>>163224539
I must have missed the campground right before the boss then.
And I got the earth spell now so I think I can do it!
Does drinking raise your crit chance? It seems like it.

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>>163222870

I love this game.

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Found it, I was simply blind.
Time to get revenge.
Even if I liked the bad end that occurred.

>>163224152
It is MV, but the issue is that no matter what I do, some flags are bound to get misplaced when the player has 60+ different ways to die.

>>163224779
>>163224779
Afraid not. Crits are currently a static percent chance.
The drunk status does increase Strength and hence damage- so think of it like Berserk.

>>163225092
Kick their asses!

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>>163225465
Did it.
I think the fight is fine.
I tried messing around with the Heart Numbing Blade. It worked against the Golem but then it decided to hit itself and then it wasn't charmed anymore.
Kinda funny actually.

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That's neat I like that idea.

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There is even some gambling.
I like it.
Oh apparently it doesn't show the current amount of money I have but only the amount before we started to play.

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>sadface.png

I enjoyed your demo and want to play more someday!
Keep up the good work Anon.

>>163227449
Huh! I'll get that fixed. I think I can guess what the problem is, at least.

>>163228441
Well thanks for playing the demo and documenting your adventure.

I need music
Give me some of your finest songs

>>163236417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>163236417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIVlwP4fNI

>>163236417

I've had this on repeat all day long. I sing it when I'm walking, taking a shit, reading this thread, and trying to write my game.

Get ready for the ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZRUhbeX2U

>>163236775
>>163236871
>>163237062
Thank you Anons.

>>163217770
I played it. Oh boy, where do I begin?

Kudos for the picture show at the beginning. But the presentation could use some revisions.
It's not clear if it's a flash back or a dream sequence.
I had to rewatched closely to tell if he had that the neck tattoo at the beginning. Because. for all I know, he always had it and it's just glowing because I killed a guy? Am I cursed? Was I teleported? I don't know. IMO, you should move the title card after that sequence so it's understood as a Prelude; otherwise we assume the story is continuing right after that. But they don't act like they just killed someone. Captions might help too, "Elsewhere.." "Later..."
I know you named the areas "Tala Forest" and "Kagua Pass" but they're not reference in-game. Well, "Kagua Pass" is mentioned on the sign once you get to town, but the player won't understand what it is.

The rest of the demo basically goes:
"So about that elf we're looking for..."
"Oh no, bandits."
"Made it to town. There's the elf." End of demo.
I can't say I'm captivated. I know nothing about the characters -- except that one likes to drink. You didn't establish any problems that need fixing, or questions to answer. No motivations.
You got to get that important stuff down right away. People forget opening scenes because it doesn't become relevant until 2+ hours later.

The rape ending, from what I can tell is non sequitur. Feels irrelevant to the story. Maybe it would feel more grounded if you named the assailants or at least have a reference somewhere about a gang of human traffickers.

>>163239450
I should add, this is all pretty typical of a demo. Missing context and stuff. Like, I've seen games that failed to mention the characters were sisters. One game had a character that could see into the future, but it's never brought up until late in the game, and it's like -wat? They've had this power the whole time? I guess it was suppose to be implied because their class was "sage"?

But people feel stupid about it because in retrospect it seems like an obvious oversight after working on it for a long time. And all the previous playtesters said nice things about it, but now one wonders if they were paying attention or even cared about making the game nice.

>>163239450
I agree, it feels like the story is already like 2 or 3 hours in while skipping the character introductions and the beginning of the main story line.

Did you get any of the items which could have been sold for money? I didn't.

As for the rapey stuff, I don't think that it needs to be connected to the story. The party was just unlucky and met an unfortunate end. It's not like the bandits were hiding their intentions.
However giving the player a fair warning about human traffickers in the area would make sense.

>>163239450
>>163241501
Excellent. Thanks for the harsh critique, I've been needing it.
The problem with story hooks and such is larger then a quick fix, (Aside from the title-card thing, I'll do that now.) so I may end up doing a second demo version way later which includes the first dungeon will hopefully hook.
Thanks for the honest feedback, though!

>>163239450
Excuse me. I said prelude. I meant prologue.

>>163242774
I guess it depends on your idea of a quick fix. There's not a lot there to begin. It might feel like a lot because you had to write it from scratch, but an editor could reword the entire thing in no time to convey more meaning.

I mean, it could fit on a 2 page word document probably. You know what? I'm going to find out.

>>163244427
Problem is, I need to get VAs to voice lines again, or edit and draw cut scenes appropriately. Raw writing would be quick, sure.

>>163244568
Not him but you would need to get them to voice lines again anyways, right?
It's not like anyone expects you to have an extended demo with full voice acting within a week or so.
What I mean to say is take your time and write the story without worrying about the voice acting.

>>163209571
Check the trash cans.

>>163245101
NANI?!
I thought I did that.
Will do.

>>163244986
Aight, fair enough. The main point is just to give people a taste and improve my game.

In any case, thanks bunches Anons!

>>163245101
Worked, now I have seen the ending.
Thank you Anon.
[Anon is now your friend.]

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Good night bump

How the fuck does someone make music for his game if you have no experience whatsoever making music

>>163217770
Only played up until the second camp spot, but so far it's a bit slow for my tastes. Enemies take a lot of hits to kill - a trio of bandits is practically a miniboss encounter. At the same time, your gameplay is pretty basic, so the fights aren't even particularly interesting. Not a fan, sorry to say.

>>163248252
That's going to be difficult. But like any other skill, you can probably get decent at it if you spend enough time and effort. Pirate some software and start fucking with it.

>>163244568
I don't think you need to redraw cutscenes. Just make the dialogue more informative.

I didn't realize this wasn't the beginning of the game. Hell, I didn't realize the MC was mute! Of course, no one brought it up in the demo either. Just that one part in narration "Myr made noiseless attempts to communicate" I just figured that meant he was gagged or something. If I wasn't transcribing it to a word document I wouldn't have picked up on it.
(it fits on 5 pages, fyi. Not even 2000 words.)
(If anyone is curious, Final Fantasy 7's script is roughly 150 pages, that's mostly dialogue. Naturally, Visual Novels with blocks of narration are going to be longer. )

You should probably change the text box to distinguish dialogue, monologes, and narration. Or at least change the font style. Some games tint everything when characters think to themselves.

How often do you actually find yourself using the guard command in a typical rpg?

I mean outside situations where a boss spends like eight turns charging followed by a popup going "A/N: I just remembered that I put a guard command in this game so y'all better use it or you're dead next turn!!"

>>163250654

It depends on how hard the game is on average, honestly. I more or less always have someone defend if their health is low enough that I have to spend time healing them.

>>163250654
Not much, but I want to make it useful so I made a helmet that makes Guard block 70% damage instead of 50% and increases your resistance to debuffs

>>163250654
I use guard when a character is basically useless except for dampening the enemies' damage out put.
Although, that's rare. And more than likely I'll have a stash of items, so they can switch to healer.

FFXIII's Sentinel was only useful because it use real-time combat and switched roles on the fly.

Some games Guard includes a small heal. But items are a lot rarer. So you get down to 1 enemy and spend some fast turns to recover health before moving on.

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>started fiddling around with VX months ago
>get a hang of it, managed to get some parallax map going
>started working on sprite
>invovled with tons of project, have to drop it
>feeling like wanting to do more about it and learn more stuff
>trial ended please enter keycode

Welp.

>https://mega.nz/#F!pMtBySob!LRDxnJagDT36eWnF9Ur0LA

Hows MV? Is it much easier to do hand drawn map than VX?

.pmub

>>163248252

I've also been trying to make music. Music is so much harder than drawing. Drawing at least seems manageable. Music is as tough as 3D modeling.

What do you use to make music? I've been using LMMS https://lmms.io/

>>163248252
Make 8-bit NES music with the multitudes of free programs online to do so.

>>163260396
I thought about that but no. Would be cool, but no. I'd rather make my own murmuring voice and whistles into the game's music.

Damn it, why are MV assets all more or less RTP edits? Do people dislike the opportunity to make neat looking grounded colored walls&floor tiles?

>>163263079

MV has only been out for a little while. I mean it's been a year, but compared to other versions that's not much.

>>163267838

Hm, I guess that is true. Ah well, I'll just go back to working on my game.

Also, I'm still looking for someone affordable to do portraits for MV. If any of you know of someone, let me know.

Today's Song of the Day won't get out of my head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqd-Y6m5xEc

>Wake up
>Page 10
No Anon

>>163090907
Can new NPC's be used if you create them from the Character Generator?

used Bump!

>>163276458
(But it's not very effective!)

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>>163215074
Fantastic, can't wait.

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My day was pretty awful and it's way too cold.
I'm gonna include something nice in my game to compensate.

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Dev Talk Time: Boss Motivations

I just recently watched Street Kings. Great movie, that. I recommend seeing it instead of reading this post, but for those who don't mind spoilers, read on.

At its most simple, Street Kings is about two cops who cannot be bought and will do anything to do the right thing. Although they were once partners, ideology differences split them apart. Keanu Reeves (umf) believes in bending the law to get the results they need, while Terry Crews (UMF) believes the law absolutely must be upheld. After Crews goes to IA about the underhanded methods the police force is using, he ends up promptly murdered by gang-bangers with Reeves on the scene, leading the police force to quickly cover up the murder to prevent Reeves from being falsely accused as retaliating for being ratted out. Bothered that no one is actually looking into the killers, Reeves goes out on his own to track them down in personal vengeance, under the law.

Boss motivations. We're getting there, I promise.

So things happen and more things happen, and finally Reeves uncovers that the people who murdered his old partner were actually deputies, at the order of his best friend (and the "boss" of the movie) - the police force commander. In the confrontation scene, Reeves finds a whole stash of drugs, money, and more hidden in the wall at the commander's house. And when he confronts the commander about it, well, that's what really got me.

His accusation surmounts to something like
>You murdered Crews, you sent my own team to kill me. All this so you can store more money for yourself in your wall?

But the commander is taken aback. Yes, he had Crews killed, but money had no part in it. All that stuff in the wall, all of that money, it was strictly for the police - Reeves' team. It's the bribe money that got them out of scrutiny. It's the bonds that stop the court judges from interfering with them. It's the money that pays for the retirement of those who leave the force.

cont.

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>>163280615
The commander had dirt on everyone who could have stopped them - not for personal gain, but to let Reeves team do their thing. In his own words
>This is what let you reach the unreachibles, touch the untouchibles. All those scumbags out there who thought they were beyond the law weren't beyond US, because of THIS.
Everything Reeves had done and been able to do was because of that stash. And when Crews brought in IA and threatened to close this open door, that's why he had Crews killed. If Crews had his by-the-book way, they would never be able to reach those people hiding in all the legal loopholes or who bribed the judges and so on.

Now, I'm probably doing a poor job explaining this, but it came across as very symphathetic. What is Right versus what is Necessary was a constant theme played across the movie, especially between Reeves and Crews. Reeves and the commander believed in what was necessary, and this was the power that made them able to do so. Honestly, in that scene, I didn't want the commander to be killed. I felt he was very right in what he was doing.

That is a boss motivation done right.

And then Reeves shoots him. Not because he disagreed, not because he felt this was over the line, but because the commander had Crews killed. His old partner. His old friend. It was personal.

And that too is how a boss motivation is done even better. Your goal as a dev is to make a boss believable, justified, and even sympathetic - however, he must cross a line. The player MUST have a reason to see him dead, no matter how right he is otherwise. That is how you do you boss motivations.

Just my thoughts on it.

End Dev Talk

>spend more time finding ancient Greek words to name my characters than actually working on my game
>haven't done a lick of math or calculations
At least they're only for straight-up proper nouns rather than every single little thing. It's still way too easy to get distracted when you're working on a special snowflake setting.

>>163283149
have you looked up the snowflake style of outlining???

What do you think about the end of a game making the MC's lover a wheelchair-bound slobbering vegetable with 0 chance to recover?

>>163280615
>>163280778
I think I'm going to watch this movie.
Sounds pretty good.

>>163284170
Pretty sad

>>163284170
depends on if she deserves it and/or the MC stays with her

>>163284170

It would be hilarious if there was a love triangle between childhood friend and crush and the MC gets stuck with his brain damaged crush after breaking his friends heart.

>>163284362
>depends on if she deserves it
No. Innocent person.

>>163284484
That is a pretty good idea.

>>163284639

>No. Innocent person.
Oh. Nah fuck that bitch dude. Her "life" won't be much different with or with the MC. give him an option to bail if you can.

>only day off work for two weeks is Christmas day
It's nice to be making some dosh over the holidays, but I'd really love some time off to make good progress on Slime Quest :<

>>163284883
So what you're saying is to make the classic "after he leaves for good, tears start dropping from her eyes" scene?

>>163285504

If she has the ability to still cognitively function, then yes. It's hard to give a vegetable emotion since they can't speak or move. But yeah giver that ole "Indian seeing someone litter and the single mournful tear steak down his face to make eye contact with the camera" trick. Also make her portrait look directly at the player.

>>163284639

Yeah it's a common type plot in Japan to have the childhood friend lose. There was this anime i watched once, This guy gets turned into a girl by some aliens after getting turned down by his crush. His childhood friend has always loved him but kept her distance and pretty much was just his shoulder to cry on when he got turned down. After he became a girl the crush ended up liking him because of some strange plot thing and his childhood friend looked past his gender change and still loved him but he chooses the crush over the friend in the end breaking her heart only to be turned down once again by the crush and because he broke his friends heart he also lost his best friend. There is a happy ending but if there wasn't it would have been satisfying to get the bad ending.

>>163284170
So tragic it is stupid, which means it would be either funny or incompetent depending on the tone of your writing.

If you want it to be touching, leave her wheelchair bound, but no slobbering vegetable.

>>163284170

A bit needlessly edgy, isn't it? It sounds more like "well MC looks like you don't get the girl now!" without her really being treated properly as a character. Like, killing off a female character to further a male character's is a bit over done.

>>163286378

I'd rather see the MC get cucked by the bad guy, Turn down every girl that wants him and then defeat the bad guy to finally get his old used up already pregnant female.

>>163286090
I said that because it's easy to notice that the wheelchair-bound person is kind of super common in fiction, or the character just straight up dies, but you never see between the two extremes.

>>163286378
What if i kill off the MC too

>>163287341
Why not let them live both happily ever after?

>>163263079
You know there used to be DA groups devoted to making graphic resources.
But the people who managed those groups disappeared. So no one providing direction to say, "this month's theme is WINTER"
And without managers no one can create a MV folder category.

And so what you're left with is a bunch of people who want to advertise their projects and flood the group with Donut Steel oc's and countless screenshots of forests and interiors that are all just permutations of the same tilesets and recolored head swapped sprites. No quality control what so ever.

I want to make a short game to end this year but I have only decided on its core mechanics:
1) Enemies "hide" their true identity at first and only reveal it when they perform special attacks or when you hit them with items/spells that force them to reveal themselves. But there are also some clues regarding the identity of the enemy in its original form.
2) CTB with "Ninjutsu" spells (http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Ninjutsu), that basically require the player to perform multiple actions that have no effect of their own to cast a single large spell.

The idea behind these mechanics is to make RPG CTB combat spoopy and memory oriented. Enemies would be cheeky cunts who pull off all sorts of tricks to distract you.

What would be a good idea for the story? If I can't think of anything else, I think I am just going with exorcist arrives to village that has been wholly taken over by demons.

>>163289424
An exorcist battling demons would make sense.
Or maybe a scholar/linguist found an old magic book written in some lost language.
By deciphering the book he unleashed these shadows and now he has to seal them again.

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As soon as I sit down to try to get some story planning done, I get a text from someone who needs me to install a hard drive.

>>163293664
I know that feel.
Yesterday nothing happened the entire day but as soon as I wanted to make progress 5 different things needed my attention.

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Tell me something about your main character.
What makes him/her unique?

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Sorry to betray you guys but I've been actually working on my game in the last few days and came around with a very tiny playable test demo thing with about 15 minutes of content. Would any of you anons be interested in testing it? <3
I couldn't fix a lot of thinga related to collisions, and I don't really know what to do, but well

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dtjuk2bwi7pp80n/Virgo.rar?dl=0

>>163297323
He had his head chopped off before the begining of the game.

>>163297323
They're the only human character in the game.

>>163298859
>Working on a game
Absolute madman

Downloading now
Gonna play it soon

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>>163298859
The SE was turned to 0 by default for me for some reason
Anyway, let's start the game

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The Batter would be proud

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What a charming art style, I really like it.
The menu looks pretty good, too.

Apparently we are a young girl but nobody acknowledged our speech at the beginning besides the trusty (and tasty) companion

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What a cool guy, I ran around and found some coffee. That is what lolis drink, right?

>>163297323

His entire drive is proof that even if gods pitch in to alter memories via magic, personal will, feeling and most of all, oaths(which are a big thing, especially if you swear by gods or your own power) will be made manifest.

MC swears by old gods and new, with his family and man that had killed his father in a battle at the last war's end that he will avenge his father. The man calmly accepts this and hands MC the sword MC's father once had, with a simple "Whenever you are ready".

Fast forward 3 years. MC is arriving in Rathsbane. His mothers meddling and pleading had ended with his memory altered, but he had fled home, driven solely by the feeling of obligation to learn more of his father's passing and right that wrong. To that end, he seeks the man from before, believing him to be the one that could help him become stronger and eventually bring his father's murderer to justice. Man himself too had his memories altered, so when they do meet, they feel like something is amiss, but cannot place the feeling. Course, MC and party turn to adventuring and the main plot, but as things go on, slowly the oddities begin to mount until their memories reassert themselves. By then, MC had come to see the man as a father figure, which makes it al the more dramatic.

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A loli can restore her purity by guarding with her shield. Good to know.

Time to talk to business Satan

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That escalated quickly.

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I like how battles look in this game, the sound effects are nice too. Sadly I'm having no music at all.

Salary Goat uses the immense powers of bureaucracy but I shall win.

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I found some very violent protesters.

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>>163305758
>purge

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>>163306390
I purged them alright.

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Our loli isn't fond of clocks.

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So she purged it.

Also in some animations she seems to vanish in battle.

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Hey guys, the demo for CCA RPG is finally up.
Please try it out and give me any and all feedback!

Also would it be cool to post my content again every time there's a new RPG maker thread?
I don't know any etiquette or anything that happens on /rpgmg...

>>163150603
http://officialbrandonly.tumblr.com/post/154716158852/cca-rpg-download-masterpost

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We have infiltrated the enemy base, our mission is to punch Capricorn in the face and seize the building.
This place is fueled by coffee and there is a giant big ice cream feedstock in the room to the left of us.

You can sit on this bench. How nice.

A snowman in this room gives us an infinite amount of Yogurt!
Anyway, moving on.

>>163307027
Posting progress is always good. Tell us about your game.

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>>163307840
Ha, I forgot to take a screenshot.

I found a new weapon and I like how the loli thinks about that.

>>163304220
Well that's because the game has no music yet, sounds feel terribly out of place in this barren auditive wasteland

>>163304409
I ship them together

>>163304837
Thank you!
>>163305006
>lolis
Technically she's a grown woman (at least that's what she thinks)

>>163305284
I wanted to make guard something special. Infact, I strive for every mechanic to be meaningful in some way or another, mostly following that dude from Downwell when he talks about giving each mechanic at least 2 functions.
>>163305758
Sorry! music isn't in yet, I'm still waiting for the music-man's reply about working with this project!

>>163306974
That's because of a terrible bug called sorry forgot to put her idle in the spritesheet until I'm done animating everything :(

Fellow /rpgmg/ers. Tried /v/, got no reply.

What is the difference between the "grind" of regular, traditional Final Fantasy games (which most people I know who play the game hate) and of Final Fantasy Brave Exvius (a mobile title which the majority of the game is a very, VERY slow grind held behind an energy bar)?

Pinning the cause on something like "it's just mobile gamers" doesn't sit right with me. I think there is something I can learn and apply from the contrast.

A "Skinner's Box" effect may be all that it is about, but I wanted to pass the question along to others and see what they thought.

>>163307840
Shit, that's a bug, thanks anon, haven't noticed yet. Second event page didn't require the self switch thing.

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>>163308230
I have no idea what the attributes do but her cuteness should be much higher.

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Some collision bugs in this room but you said to expect this.

>>163297323
He goes to college... Shit.

>>163307027
There are plenty of modern day tilesets out there. So you can have actual toilets instead of wash buckets. Classrooms. Dormrooms. Computers. TVs. Vending machines.

Sprites wearing Ball caps. wife beaters. Suits. Lab coats. Police Officers. Final Fantasy XV characters that were made 5 years ago since the game has been in development for 10.

No excuses!

>>163308434
Attributes should be explained as they become more relevant to the gameplay itself on the red pillars!
So far Patience, Ambition and Versatility are all both offensive and defensive stats, as each skill calculates damage by taking into account the user's Ambition vs enemies' Ambition for a Cardinal skill, same for Versatility on a Mutable skill and Patience goes with Fixed damage (not in this build yet)

Destiny deals with all recovery from items and skills and you can't hit a cute target in the face when they smile at you, can you?

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Little typo here, should be snowman.
But somehow I want to give him a bug.

>>163308868
Yeah, I found some horoscopes and they gave me some info.

>>163308682
Aw dicks, collision has been hell to do right now without resorting to collision maps tons of places have invisible tiles preventing movement in some direction because RPG maker can't allow star-marked tiles to add collision themselves for some reason

>>163308991
I meant hug of course.
Anyway, moving on.

>>163308732
Oh damn lmao, are you playing the RPG right now as we speak?
Well anon I just wanted to get the basic structure down.
Much much later down the line I plan on repainting the entire game with my own art and making my own music.
All in the vain pursuit of steam money!

Does that count as a excuse or am I a cucklord fagget.

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That's pretty deep.
We also witnessed something horrible but you need to play for yourself to see that.

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He seems to be filled with DETERMINATION.

>>163307027
CCA RPG update.
The file you're gonna download already has a bug on it. Nothing too big. Updated 0.01 file going to be loaded by 10pm standard mountain time.

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>Hard working /rpgmg/ dev

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I found a Japanese heretic, he is going to be purged.

>>163308282
Mobile games are glorified vending machines. Only instead of getting a random toy capsule you get a random character/weapon/something.

They're slow because you're meant to pay to win. On top of the fact that the story is released episodically. FF Mobious, for example is only up to Chapter 3.
So you can pay money and advance quicker. But you can only progress so far. So you'll have to comeback in a few months to see the rest of the story.

They tweak progression as time goes on. If you play an app that's 3 years old, you'll be drawing a lot of 3-4 star whatevers from the start. If you had played during the release you would have had 1 star crap.

Also. Social-RPGs are a completely different game and will probably never be relevant to rpg maker.

>>163280778
I don't think you necessarily even have to make the boss cross a line. Like in your example. The protagonist felt the boss had to die, you didn't. The protagonist doesn't have to be right, just -interesting-.

(Though, some people will get very upset with you if you don't make it insultingly clear that they are on the one true right side.)

>>163308991
He'd melt if hugged.
That's the sad life of a lifeless creation.

>>163309339
The game itself is a parody of life, sadness and the empty hallways of destiny forever uncertain.
Not really, it's just silly, don't expect anything

>>163309875
You found the self insert

>>163310169
Reeves only killed the commander because both Crews and, more importantly, Chris Evans were killed. That is the line that was crossed.

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That's it. He was a total pushover, he tried to heal himself once but I'm not sure if it did something.

I enjoyed the demo for what it was. Sure it's rough around the edges here and there but I think it has potential.
Virgo is pretty cute and while I have no idea why she wants to purify the world(s?) I like to see her succeed.
The setting is pretty interesting and allows for a lot of possibilities.
Even if no one else says it, keep working hard on your game Anon!

>>163308282
Traditional grind for the most part serve to either pad out your time playing, or buffer your progress on the way to the next important milestone.

You hear about a lot of games doing it wrong because if it was done right, no one would actually notice it. Kind of like music.

I have no experience with Brave Exvius, so I will refer to another mobile game I've played, Terra Battle. The energy bar is there to stop you from "progressing" or "grinding", and to be honest, you're likely to finish the main story as long as you bring a balanced team that's properly leveled and maybe at least job 2 or 3.

The endgame of that is to "perfect" your favorites or whatever your own goal is. There's no real goal anymore other than one you've given to yourself for these sorts of games. By the time you clear the main story, you're gonna feel like abandoning the game at this point would be a waste, so most people continue to play with their own goals in mind.

tl;dr:
Traditional = Grind to get to the goal of the game.
Mobile = Grinding is what you feel like you wanted, because stopping now would leave a void and a feeling of loss.

>>163310965
He casts a buff on himself to gain heals as counterattacks for a bit.


And a HUGE thank you! I'll do another build when the game gets less buggy and when Capricorn is ready so she can actually make an appearance and be purged!

Really really appreciate it, so happy that the game was at least enjoyable. Gonna work with Ambition on it to make it happen.

Also, she wants to purify everything because of cleaness OCD and lack of symmetry, except for Ginger, who's been made identical on both sides by Virgo herself.

>>163286904
Berserk?

>>163310351
Yes, for the -protagonist's- motivation. I mean you don't strictly need one from the -player's- perspective.

>>163311925
Oh, I misread your point. Yes, I agree with you. I meant to encourage that interaction where the player (meaning the MC, the protagonist) has sufficient reason to ignore that "The Boss shouldn't be killed" feel I (the viewer, the person) had at that scene.

I'm am terrible unclear on these sort of things. I should have used protagonist there.