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Demon's and Dark Souls General - /dsg/

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Best Character Edition

old >>130416283

>DARK SOULS 3
>FAMITSU STUFF
http://imgur.com/a/goTNk
>PSX 2015 Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM [Embed]
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0 [Embed]
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Announcement Trailer (embed)
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
[YouTube] Dark Souls 3 EXCLUSIVE LEAKS! - The Know
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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>>130482095
And what's LoGH
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fucking spy sounnds like a fag
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>>130482423
>running out of torch
>needing a lockstone for wharf
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>>130482489
Legend of Galactic Heroes, really long and involved hard-scifi space opera
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>>130482489
An anime about politics and gays in space
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>>130482489
GAY MAN IN SPACE
LET NO FAG TRICK YOU
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>>130482489
Legend of the Galactic heroes

basically 100 episodes, very good, game of thrones in space . very very good
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>>130482489
Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

It's animated in japan, but it is not anime at all. Other than the art, it has absolutely nothing in common with anything anime represents. It's just a really heavy military space opera with a lot of political and philosophical commentary, kind of like Dune, and it goes on for about 300+ episodes.
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>>130482568
>see the video
HOW!?!?
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where do i get a black eye stone
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link to these stream fags?
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>>130482862
110 episodes, but you were close
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So I'm just getting into DeS and I remembered that I've sometimes seen people use spells even though it says ability shortage? Are there certain talismans that let you cast without the stats?
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>>130483147
Find best friends play on twitch.
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>>130482762
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>>130482925
cheat engine model probably

>>130483252
Are there a lot of /dsg/ phantom invades?
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>>130482289
so /dsg/ who is the most useless NPC summon in any game in the series and why?

>lone hunter schmit
>does little to no damage
>constantly walks into fire in rotten fight
>actually walked up behind me and stood still so i couldn't dodge away from an attack
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>>130482940

The first nameless black phantom NPC you kill should drop it according to the wiki.
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>>130483223
you don't need stats
only the mana pool
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>>130482684
>>130482723
>>130482762
>>130482771
>>130482862
Ahh. The 'slowest' thing I've watched was GitS, but I enjoyed that greatly. Might give it a shot sometime. There's a remake? Which should I watch
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>>130483409
Not yet, they're in soul form.
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>>130483440
Thanks, I guess I'll use a buff if I find one
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>>130483196
My bad. I guess it just felt like 300.

hue
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ARE THEY ONLINE?
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>>130483459
how long has it been? if there's no chance of seeing you guys ruin their days then I'm not going to watch
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Post weaponfu

I hope it returns in DS3, or a similar weapon but has R2's that aren't crappy

Also what weapon should I use before I get it? I'll have to atleast get to NG+ before O&S to get it and cheat engine is wonky when I try to get it to work on DS1, I'm thinking of using the Zwei or normal greatsword because they both look great
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>>130483720
Brother man i'm already at 1-2 with the SS and full gloom armor
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im in a bit of a predicament.

I really want to play dark souls 3 when it comes out as i've been really late to the party for every other game. however i dont have a system to play it. So i can either

>bite and buy an xbone or ps4 now so I can play it at release
>or have to wait so I can afford to build a PC. however, that will be a while.

I wont mind waiting a bit, especially with a package edition being released later.

would the wait be worth it?
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>>130483862
ok I guess I'll watch, I thought it started a while ago
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Can I use Lightning weapons on LGK?
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>>130483443
Some older episodes were remastered/reanimated.

There will also be another series of it done soon.

Its worth a watch.
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>>130483862
>>130483862
jesus how long is it going to take them, this will take decades
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>>130483861
I am married to Estoc.

(Blacksmith Hammer is my side ho)
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god its woolie on the controls?
snail pace all over again
someone link the WOW video
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Anyone want to do me a fashion souls favor? What's the old bell helm look like on the llewellyn set with havels gauntlets?
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>>130484262
DaS2 took them around 90 30-50 minute parts
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>>130484381
>that combo
>fashionable at all
reconsider your life choices
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>>130483861
I hope the Flamberge comes again
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>>130484245
quality post

is anyone leaving troll messages for them?

1-2 ALMOST HERE BOYS
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HEHEHEHEH
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If I wanted to make a "mercenary" would a straight sword and shield, greatsword, or UGS be most appropriate?
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>you better hope you never see one on another player
hahaha oh yes
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ALMOST HUMAN
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>>130483720
It's gonna take a while, these guys are notorious for being slow in Souls games.
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>>130484296
Your waifu is an impure metaslut, I'm sorry.
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psn roll call here lads
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UQtBMKCipk
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I really don't like these guys
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>>130484464
The bell I consider ironic, I want to know if it looks good form the neck down or if the gauntlets don't fit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H658UgLa3_c
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>>130484951
thanks for sharing
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>complaining about freja
>not the best spider fight in the games
please kill these fags repeatedly
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>>130485101
>havel's gauntlets fitting with anything besides havel's armor
>that outfit
stop
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>>130483861
>no 2hr2 or l2 to set it on fire
>can't even resin it
GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIT
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>people like Rat Authority
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>>130484901
Explai nto me what's happening.
This is fucking awesome.
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>>130484614
Mercenaries use whatever weapons is nearby to pillage women and rape villages.
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>keeps shoving phalanx adds
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>>130484951
matt and that fag nigga ruins it
pat and woolie are the best
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>>130484381
http://www.fashion-souls.com/
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>actually managed to find someone to invade in DeS
>he immediately summons a blue phantom
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>>130484614

I prefer the bastard sword or battle axe.
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>>130484682
I fell in love before I knew, who else do I go to?
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>>130485387
Bell helm isn't in there, and it also kinda dosen't do a good job representing stuff

I'll just get to my house later
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HUMAN FORM LADS
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>Woolie likes Maiden the best
Best taste
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ALRIGHT LADS
EVERYONE SET UP SHOP ON 2-1 AND 1-2
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>>130485234
fist weapons have that headbutt as a kick
pushes, kicks, shoves in demon's souls all apply status effects from weapons + buff damage
he has light weapon on, the equivalent of crystal magic weapon
fist weapon and dagger shoves can infinitely stunlock players and enemies FOREVER
while demon's souls has toggling, you can't toggle out of being shoved
ring of the eternal warrior increases your stamina regen enough that with timing you can shove things forever
this is inescapable death

broken dead game
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>kinda shitty
based liam with the SHITTASTE
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I borrowed a gamepad from my friend and installed Dark Souls. And holy shit those controls and that fucking camera.

The way you turn your camera with right analog stick is retarded. You don't have even 1% of control you have with mouse in any first/third person game on PC.
You run and roll with the same button. It means that roll doesn't register until you release the button. You can easily fuck up your roll just because you pressed the button to hard and didn't release it in time. Roll is the main fucking action in the game and it's gimped because gamepads don't have enough buttons. Oh, and while you're running you can't even roll because jump is on the very same button.
RT/LT are delayed too, because they don't register as soon as you start moving them, but when they are ~50% down.
To chose an item you need to cycle them with d-pad. Once again gamepads just don't have enough buttons so you can't bind them on 1/2/3/4 (or F1/F2/F3/F4) like on keyboard. Oh and while you're switching your items you can't even run, because it occupies the same finger.

Gamepads were fine in NES era when jump and attack were the only actions you can do. Why are they not dead nowadays?
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>>130485681
Already on it bruh
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You now realize that the souls mechanic (currency, absorbing souls of bosses and scattered consumables) only made sense in Demon's Souls.
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>>130485938
Where's your Scraping Spear and Babby Nail?
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>all this """"lore"""" explanations
>ds2 references
hilarious
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>>130483196
One episode feels like 3
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>>130485681
What's their SL right now?
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THEY DIDN'T LV UP YET
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>this whiny faggot whining about cheating on the registry
he takes this so seriously
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>>130486525
so a typical souls fan
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>>130486525
German is autismo overlord for des
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>>130485196
Havel's gauntlets work great for a popeye look.

Use them all the time on my punchy character
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>End
THE MEMES
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Where the fuck is Yurt in Latria
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Well I did it, cleared all of DaS2 with a Whip.

I'm surprised at how little they suck in this game compared to 1, it wasn't even that bad for most of the game. Infact if the Old Whip was actually fucking useable the damage would have made it a hell of a lot easier than a Raw Bloodied Whip.

What exactly is it that makes the Old Whip break so easily? It has decent enough durability and they fixed the durability bug ages ago.
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>>130486896
3-2, just progress through the level.
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>>130486929
Lingering hitboxes fucks the whip for some reason.
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>no Demon's PS4 re-release
>no Demon's sequel
>no sixth archstone
This stream just brings back bad feels.
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>>130486929
It's your distance to an enemy.
Up close, it takes like 3x durability damage.
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>>130486929
Whips have a few attacks that have long active frames. If an enemy dies, it continues to drain durability during its death animation. As a result, everything you kill with the old whip essentially drains durability as it dies.

Just avoid finishing enemies with the old whip and it'll last much longer.
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>>130487151
I didn't want these feels.
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Gonna post some DeS pics to go along the stream.
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>>130487641
>tfw the plague babies came from her
spooky
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>>130487037
>>130487214

I see

>>130487279

My Bloodied Whips were absolutely fine though. I even made it through Sinh without them breaking. But I hit Raime with an Old Whip one time and lost 1/4 of the durability.
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>>130486929
I want to do a Whip run now, any suggestions for a main whip or just use them all to save on Repair Powders? I'm sure those little birds will fuck me and not give me an Old Whip, ever.
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Fuck
F U C K
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KEKED
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>Woolie is killing himself
:(
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those cowards
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>>130487957
THE DEMON CODE PREVENTS ME
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>>130487979
god this is what r9k feels everyday on their sorry lives
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>>130488031
>>130487980
>>130487979
>>130487957
For now. Can't blame them, with world tendency
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N O I N V A S I O N S
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>>130487907

Old Whip is garbage because again, it seems to be the only whip that breaks to a gentle breeze. The best whip is The Bloodied Whip from the guys in Huntsman's Cospe, it has the highest damage aside from Old Whip, more poise damage (which is actually important with how slow the whip attacks are) and more range.

It's super fucking rare though, I had to farm for two hours in CoC (and ended up with almost 100 CREO) to get one to drop.
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>staying in soul form
welp, there goes the only reason i was watching this stream
fuck you, germanspy, you SJW hair faggot
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what did you expect from these pussy faggots?

two people literally telling this guy how to do everything, fucking boring as fuck and lame as hell. waste. of. time.

fuck anyone who watches these dumb fucks.
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>He killed himself
Good thing I wasted all those hours preparing a character
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If I get Lucateil's sword from her, then kill her, will the Hag sell another copy of her sword? Is powerstancing two of these any fun?
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>>130488101
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>almost 2 years
>still no larger pic
>still no good lewds of her
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jesus FUCK woolie
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>>130488234
Patience anon, they'll slip sooner or later.
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anyone have the asylum demon twerking gif?
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>>130488729
That random 4th fag is more annoying, who is he anyway.
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>calling the guard break useless
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>Miralda
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>>130488954
german the sjw
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>>130488767
Yeah, I'm still going to wait, at least I might be able to invade them 3-3. It's just frustrating that I wasted all that time completing the game SL1.
>My face when listening to these retards be wrong
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best waifu
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I gave her the pole.

Just got a completely random slab while running through New Londo, what a wonderful feeling.
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>>130488895
shake it
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>>130489090
You can practice on other fools until these human themselves.
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>>130489090
for real man, how do people find that fun to watch when they're bragging about having "4 guide books on hand"
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>>130489307
thanks, it's a rare pepe, was going to save it awhile ago but browser crashed
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>>130489343
>those maneaters
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>>130489090
>tfw mule
god bless japan
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>>130488961
These fucks don't even know about guard break + riposte. German Spy never even mentionned how the kick in the DaS3 demo can lead to a DaS2 riposte. He's a fucking scrub.
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Based Miralda wrecking Woolie.
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>>130489375
Would you rather be getting mad over Woolie being shit at the game and getting lost and not knowing what to do or what is viable?
This is perfect for a stream, there's a reason this is not a series on the channel like DS2 was. If it's on the channel they play it slow as fuck, which seems to be what you want.
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>>130489775
I would have liked watching that, the whole fun of the game is learning it and making progress, the audience makes progress alongside the player, there's nothing gained, there's no reason to do a fresh play like that, in any game
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>>130488550
who

>>130489148
she looks very normal desu

>>130489538
>lawful evil
>not mephistoteles
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What can you honestly do against a Estoc?f

I was using my silverblack spear and he could poke from pretty much the same range as me and his moves had so little recovery I couldn't ever punish him.
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>>130490073
turn on the cheats duh
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this german guy talks like he's being annoying on purpose
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>>130490043
moenna it seems
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>>130489538

pretty sure Freke is a greedy evil fuck who just wants more souls. He sure as hell ain't chaotic good
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>>130490404
Who's Chaotic Good then, Doran?
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>Woolie killed himself in Nexus

Bullshit, nobody can invade at this rate, they've made no progress so far in 3 hours and haven't even done anything past Phalanx
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>>130490718
I blame German for that.
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>>130490718
They don't want inevitable death and invasion to fuck up world tendency in Boletaria or Stonefang tunnel
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>>130490718
get into that twitter and scream at sjw german
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>tfw purposely not leveling up so I don't get too far out of range of them
>they're taking this fucking long
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>>130489723
>how the kick in the DaS3 demo can lead to a DaS2 riposte
I still can't believe FROM did this, it's like they took the best of both worlds.
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>>130490934
why do you keep calling him that
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>>130491098
he has blue hair and defends woman online
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>>130490968
I have a level 39 character that can scrape and soul suck. I also have another character that can scrape that's a level below their character. Even I'm getting impatient with their slow progress and I waited for Brad Shoemaker and Patrick Klepek.
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>>130491236
if anyone gets an invade be sure to record a webm for me please!
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didn't you guys watch das2?
almost 10 videos to get to the forest
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Don't suppose anyone on PC SoFTS at around 2M SM wants to help me with 2 PURSUE!!!! LMAO!!! 2 PURSUE!!!!!!

Really want RoB +2
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How long is the Super Best Friends stream going for? They don't seem to mind playing at a snail's pace, but they're also talking as if they're going to encounter a lot of the late game bosses and weapons.
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>>130491486
How?
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>play against some hotshot level 3 aura guy
>does all of the unlocked/spin/fakeout moves
>feel outplayed
>faggot gets hit by the same attack 15 times in a row
>literally takes a break in between attacks to gesture no-no-no, just to get hit by the same fucking attack 5 more times
Fucking reddit.
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>>130491692
they are slow
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>>130491692
Woolie is very slow.
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>>130491686
iirc 3-4 hours?
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>>130491918
It's already been over 3 hours and they haven't done anything past Phalanx and have been dicking around with chat for the last 20 minutes.
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>>130492021
then we aren't getting no invasions
thanks germanspy
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>>130491764
I feel like he wouldn't be that slow (except in the Bloodborne LP, that was real fucking slow) if everyone didn't fucking babysit him and tell him to stop and turn around for small things.
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>>130491752
>>130491764
Did they go Heides > Wharf > Bastille first or something?
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>>130492209
something like that
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They seem so comfy, would be pretty cool if I could make money while playing vidya with my friends.
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>a third of the stream just has them reading donation messages.

Are they planning on boring invaders to the point where they give up?
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>>130492453
Start a channel/stream that doesn't suck balls with something you guys are good at.
Just do it. Income might be low but at least it'll be something, instead or staring at your screen, wishing for stuff doing nothing.
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>>130492650
no, their keikaku is not being invaded at all because of SJWspy and muh wurld tendies
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>>130485934
I see what you mean about the item cycling. Everything else, I don't know. I think i just adapted way too quickly, Never noticed any of that my very first time playing and 1500 hours later i still have not noticed it.
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>>130492650
you know they don't actually care right?
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>>130492727
>posting like this
I dont disagree, but please stop.
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>Finally beat Sinner on my pyro only character

God damn, the cunt has stupid fire resist for how early you're encouraged to go after her
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>>130487761
She doesn't have anything to do with the plague babies maiden astraea is pure
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>>130492905
you don't like the SJW anon
what's wrong, don't tell me you are one
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>>130492983
>Laughing hard at all those people who went Flame Longsword the whole game like stupid ass NicoB
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>>130492983
she's a major boss, you can always come back later. check out her armor set for clues
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Why are they caring about world tendency and trying to get the Dragon Bone Smasher? I thought they were only streaming today.
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r8
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>>130489009
wait hes an sjw
or is this meming
What did he do and what did he say?
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>>130493214
because germanspy is a sperg
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>>130493183
Yeah, but pyro only character, and her gauntlets improve pyro damage

She's better to kill ASAP
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WAIT THERE'S STILL A CHANCE
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>>130493229
>HUD
Great

>Fashion
Good, but replace gauntlets with Favor.
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>Summon 2 Randoms for 2Pursue
>They are clearly pretty low SL since they're getting their shit slapped by NG+ enemies
>Get invaded by a twink who almost 1HKOs them both with IKUGS
>We beat him
>Now the easy part, it's just 2 Pursuers guys!
>They both die almost instantly

Fuck this, I'll just bug it.
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>>130493473
shit fuck i'm already naked and on bed
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>>130493229
Weren't you already asking this here yesterday or something? Didn't you have enough already? God, just play however you like.

>>130493276
He has blue hair and apparently defends woman on the internet. But citations are needed and this random guy is just being cancerous and shitposting almost to the 4kings faggot level.
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>>130493519
thanks, but this is a from developer character.
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>>130493370
>plan out entire playthrough
>decide what weapons to use, how to tackle future bosses, and late game areas, what stats to level up
>never stepped a single foot outside of 1-1 in 3 and half hours
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>>130493670
that's what you get when you call ENB on roids to help you.
>>
Do people still play Dark Souls 1 on PC?
I only got to play the game offline on a 360, and I want to experience being fucked over, and fucking over invaders, and other folks
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>>130493276
He's a huge nerd who defends women which means sjw. Anybody that doesn't hate women is sjw
Actual SJWs are ridiculous though
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>>130493576
I'm not trying to be a git gud fag, but 2Pursue isn't that bad. What's your build?
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>>130493595
Unless it takes you 2 hours to get out of bed, you'll make it in time
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>these Demon's feels
>ywn play DeS for the first time again, alone and lost and spooked as fuck
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>>130493814

Powerstance Whips.

Now you see the world as I do.
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>>130493860
true, forgot it was woolie on the controls
might as well take a shower
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>>130493787
Then you better wait for DS3.
Otherwise you will only get twinks and high level "competitive" PvP. Invasions through the whole game overall are pretty much dead.
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>>130493926
If you have a spotted whip you can destroy them.
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>>130493943
I'm not even joking. They're taking forever right now just chatting to everybody in Nexus and they still haven't set foot in 1-2 or 2-1. 2 hours is pretty generous estimate for when they kill the next boss.
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>woolie going straight to world 5
MADMAN
>>
SHUT UP, NO WE AREN'T
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>4chan is waiting for you
THEY KNOW
>>
PAT YOU GINGER FUCK YOU KNOW YET YOU LET HIM CVCK US
>>
OH SHIT
>>
WE BUSTED LADS
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>>130493986
Shame, I wish I could've experienced being shot at by player assholes while running up the ledge in Anor Londo

Oh well, hopefully DS3 ends up really fun
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>>130493614
i changed the hp/stamina, but now i dont think on modifying it anymore.
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>>130494326
>>130494310
>>130494345
>>130494424
>>130494431

It's not like this is a secret site anymore. If you really wanted to fuck them up you should've used an irc or acted solo
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Best area boys
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>>130494685
agreed
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>>130494326
>>130494491
I was taking a shit, what happened while I was gone?
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>>130494716
Germanspy busted us
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>>130493614
>>130493812
Thank god. I actually really like him
I think im just into autists or some shit
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>>130494716
Nothing, Pat was warning Woolie that 4chan will fuck him up once he goes human.
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>>130494747
>>130494871
I think half of us who were planning to invade already gave up from their slow progress. Even longer if they don't tell Woolie that guy will resurrect Fool's Idol.
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>bloodninja
They get a +1 from me.
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reposting for visibility


didn't start this char with this in mind but the idea came along so the bodytype is all wrong, i'll probably make a new one or try to permachange it with ce. rates? the scimitar is closer but i'd like to actually do damage. or maybe i should get an estoc? probably no shield or something like a buckler.

any suggestions, especially on the helmet?
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>>130491227
He doesn't have blue hair, he's a skinny blonde dork.

Unless that's changed.
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stream died?
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>>130495452
Still going for me. They're just in 3-1 looking in random cells.
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I am sorry but wtf is bloodstarved and friends?
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>>130495531
dank meme
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>>130495531
Watch their Old Hunters Episodes.
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>>130495531

In the BB DLC, that cave with Bloostarved and a hunter and shit. They started singing the Garfield and Friends theme, but about Bloodstarved beast.
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>>130495328
Stick with the scimitar, you aren't losing too much damage and it looks much better.
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>>130495036
Yeah i gave up
He won't go body form anyway and will kill himslef right away
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>/vg/ suddenly talks about DeS
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>>130496029
it keeps the pc cucks away
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This Spy faggot is literally going out of his way to spoil everything about Demon's Souls.
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Pyro character, just killed Sinner.

Which of the three should I go for next?
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>>130496174
old iron
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>>130496174
Old Iron King
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>>130496138
So?
You shouldn't care and Woolie certainly doesn't care, without it he'd make 1 step of progress per hour
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>>130496138
he's the worst of the big souls vid makers
why not call ENB or vaati, heck even dead as fuck vegate would be better
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>>130496298
Imo he's the only good one with ENB
I pretty much hate all the other ones
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SNUGGY HYPE
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>>130496295
HES STILL MAKING ONE STEP OF PROGRESS PER HOUR BUT WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS AUTISTIC FUCK WHILE HE DOES IT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>they forgot to switch the feed back to the game
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>>130496271
>>130496256

Fuck.

You won't judge me for using an NPC summon right
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Plague does a shitty OC.
That's new.
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>/vg/ is now e celeb central
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>>130496529
Looks like Tumblr fan art for something from Adventure Time or Steven's Universe
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>>130496529
>doesn't have any dark souls elements nor souls aesthetic
>looks like adventure time shit
Yup that's plague alright.
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>>130496516
Go ahead
>>
So I'm gonna try to Powerstance the Orma and Reeve Shields.

They have fuck all scaling though, even with 50 Str I'm getting naff all from their awful D scaling. Should I try Infusing them with an Element or just leave them as is? If only I could make them raw.
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>>130496595
MUH SS BULLING
REEE FUCK YOU SPY
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>>130496298
Really? Spy actually seems like the least obnoxious souls expert, to me. Vaati and Oro tie for the worst, I think.
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>>130496487
No, you don't get it, this is LIGHTNING SPEED compared to Woolie's usual pace
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>>130496529
I don't get why people love Plague so much, his videos are so fucking boring and his art is mediocre at best
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>>130496781
He's a living proof on how to leech off from other people
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>>130496516
Oh and if you have poison/toxic mist. He can be poisoned as well
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>people hate the guy on the stream
>they still watch the stream
I don't get you guys
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>>130496883
>Toxic mist

Alright, so I'm going for the rats beore the OIK
>>
What essential DaS meme videos are there? I only know of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlkEH0ovDhs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4
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>>130496930
I was just watching because I wanted to invade them.
>>
>no matter how much better I get at the game across multiple playthroughs, I will always lose a shitton of souls to the ice Sanics in Eleum Loyce
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>>130496930
someone wasen't here when dsp was streaming
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>>130496930
We're just waiting for him to go human so we can break his gear.
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>>130493132
I just find that style of posting nauseating, its poisoned me from every other board.
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>>130497063
And then?
Oh no he has to pay a few souls to repair it
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>>130496717
I feel like oro is almost enjoyably obnoxious
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>>130497098
i feel ya, the boogieman shit got way offhand lately.
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>>130497127
It's surprisingly expensive to repair broken equipment for new players.
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>>130497063
Why not headbut stun him instead. It's bound to be way more annoying than breaking his gear.
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>>130496717
Why is Vaati so hated? I have no opinion, I just never understood the hate.
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>>130496693
i’d say that you need fuckhuge str anyway and infusing fucks up the base too, but i might be wrong. there is some dude with a build dedicated around o&r. he wears dragonrider chest and archdrake helm i believe. ask again in ~12 hours and you might find him
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Jesus they're slow. Fuck this.
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>>130497127
Then I'll wait for him to go human again and break his gear again
>>130497258
You can do both, in fact I usually do
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>>130497269
Pretty much all he does is take dumb theories from reddit or 4chan and makes videos of it to make money
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>>130496781
Because he draws kinda hot girls.
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>>130497269
he stole from dsg
stole from reddit
from /v/
from that big ass doc on bb
and tried to scum his way outta the heat.
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>>130497186
indeed, the sheer edgyness of the 4chan posting style has gotten so gross. #GG-related or otherwise.
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>>130497172
Yeah, I guess I can empathize a little. I find myself watching his videos about encountering hackers sometimes and just thinking, "You and them deserve one another. You're both scumbag exploiters, it's just one of you is doing it within the boundaries of the system and the other without." His salt is delicious.
>>
I'll give up on an invasion
He won't go body form anyway and for him to beat a boss will take 10 years
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>>130497518
watch as he dosen't kill the old man
>>
>church twinking in Ds1 on 360
>Solaire set with no chestplate, HSW, and huge upper body muscles
>all these mad wiggers who want to co-op getting killed by porno-actor Solaire

I consider twinking to be a huge fault in DS but I'm definitely giving it a pass on XBox since everyone who owns one is white trash
>>
>>130497413
>>130497356
oh, I guess thats one of the risks of anon posting.

Still shitty, I guess all he has is a nice accent to listen to.
>>
>>130496781
I liked his porn before he deleted it all from the internet.
>>
Is it me or the Staff of Wisdom gets glowier as you upgrade it?
>>
Anyone needs help in DeS or something, i'm kinda bored wating for them
>>
>>130496991
Good luck pyro-chan!
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>>130497487
4chan has gotten too steeped in irony and post-irony to actually like anything anymore.
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>>130497516
I see it as getting to watch random players get killed by a hilariously nasally guy. Watching someone get their head flushed by a nerd is great.
>>
Fuck it lads, i give up
>>
I have a problem. I would like to remap my Xbox controller, more precisely I would like to switch the block and the parry button.

I try to use x360ce but it is not working because dsfix overrides DINPUT8.dll

As far as I know DINPUT8.dll is responsible for injecting dsfix in the first place so probably there is no solution for using dsfix and x360ce at the same time. Or is there?

And for some reason DS stop reacting any inpot from my controller if I use dsmfix. I can only use mouse OR only use controller...

Could you help me please?
Thank you kind sir.
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>>130497809
The rats are going to be easy
Lingering and Swath nuke the room

I just hope I don't get summoned into a ratfags world because I don't want to deal with salt when I just sprint through his traps anyway
>>
>>130497034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsd9s2drl38
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>>130497034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWLU6JT0OXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN1PIelq8MI
>>
I now see why the Black Knight Sword is an incredibly rare drop in the burg. Just look at this thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91FaQMRfZKE&feature=youtu.be
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>>130497034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf6zZsTwTXA
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>>130497487
Every thread in every board nowadays has at least one, if not more, than a mention of one of the following:
>reddit
>tumblr
>sjw
>something that either reddit or tumblr likes is actively shit because either reddit or tumblr likes said thing
It's kind of repetitve after 2 years of this
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>>130497034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtT2xYZbWBs
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>>130497979
Honk
4 casts is all it took.
2 to get him to spawn and then 2 to kill him ded.
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>>130498146
i figure most of the neo polacks went to cripplechan, the rest is mostly epik meems
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>>130498041
>that second vid
I forgot how hard Lucy got btfo.
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>>130498504
>getting anally destroyed by meme afro
fucking kekx40
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>>130498146
This. I miss when there wasn't 3 go-to nouns for whenever someone says something they don't like.

I've always wondered if newfags who come here were at one time told that 4chan is the worst, and therefore when they come here, they act the absolute worst. Like getting drunk off the environment or hearsay.
>>
>>130498146
/dsg/ and /bbg/ are the only reasons I come back to this site, its turned into something too ugly all the time for me to stand. Shits tiring.
>>
>>130497034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd4JnDKGj_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12KzmiG4JEg
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>>130498801
are you that thin skinned?
>>
>>130498146
It's always been like that. Under different names but the sentiment is the same. Remember when you got told to go back to Gaia, Newgrounds, or Something Awful?
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>>130498758
Thats definitely it, 4chan has become Poes law incarnate. You cant tell if someones actually an idiot or joking so its no surprise we are flooded with idiots.

Shitposting all over the shop.
>>
>>130498898
don't forget ebaumsworld
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>>130498967
Not really, you're just tired of it because you spend too much time here.
>>
>>130499052
til lowtax came along...
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>>130499052
Oh of course. How could I forget the biggest scapegoat of all? But my point still stands
>>
I know some old dsg members that became hardcore kill all man commie vatnik shitheads.
hope that ain't the rule here.
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>>130498892
Thats the exact kind of response I usually get after saying that stuff, and no I've been here long enough not to get bothered by things people post. I'm just done seeing it every day.

I think its unhealthy to be ingrained in such a negative environment, it takes a toll on you. Shit, just look at what /r9k/ does to people, we've got like 2 mass shooters and who knows how many psychopaths.
>>
>>130496693
>>130497310
> there is some dude with a build dedicated around o&r. he wears dragonrider chest and archdrake helm i believe.
I'm that faggot.
Honestly, I think it just depends on your preference and/or your build.
When infused, you're sorta missing out on the 100% phys damage reduction, but not by a huge margin.
You get a bit more damage when infused with dark lets say, but if you have RoB, you get only half the bonus damage, and RoB is pretty useful, cause it gives you double the value (because you're powerstancing, duh). Split damage means though that you'll deal less damage against targets with elemental resistances.
Update: just tested this on the arena because I had spare dark stones/pale stones left and I reload my saves like a little bitch anyways and honestly the damage difference is kind of hard to notice. It's kind of hard to indentify as well because these things deal a quite random amount of damage at times, although it seems that the amount of damage dealt on dark-infused shields is slightly higher than on uninfused ones.
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HE RAN OUT OF GRASS
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>>130499260
>kill all man commie vatnik shitheads
I don't understand what that means.
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>>130498898
I feel like the hating and shitposting is much heavier nowadays though. You can't go one thread without a discussion ending up with something like pic related
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>>130499301
I think posting in /r9k/ and places like it is a symptom, not a cause, of that sort of stuff.
>>
>>130499178

It used to be less pervasive. There was more room for differing opinions, and it was more for faux pas, but just for voicing a different opinion. But I'm just a dumb /co/mrade, what do I know.
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>>130498967
We'll all be doing it... sooner or later.
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>>130499260
I dont think that all men should die, women and children too. End all of it.
>>
>>130497860
Don't give up, I believe in you! What were you doing?

>>130498146
>>sjw
I didn't care about them until they started affecting games because publishers started listening to their dumb shit.
>>
>>130499301
now i get your point, the atmosphere here sure can fuck up minds if you have a weak will, but what can you do?, the chan because the last place to anyone that ain't a true normalfag.
>>
>>130499413
>But I'm just a dumb /co/mrade, what do I know.
How can you bare posting there anymore, it hasn't been anything but insanity for years.
You have a stronger will than I.
>>
>>130499313
sms doesn’t have any effect on the damage of a magic infused shield, does it?
>>
>>130499604

I remember the old days. That and storytime is all I can do to keep going.
>>
>>130498882
What happened to GrimDisaster btw, he's vanished.
>>
>>130499413
Jesus lad. how can you stand /co/?
that place is the worst, like together with r9k and pol
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>>130499335
>mfw waiting to invade
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>>130499383
>>130499413
You have to remember there wasn't nearly as many people now as there were maybe 7 years ago when I first lurked here. And with that brings a torrent of the gullible, indignant, and just plain ignorant along with it. One day 4chan will fade into the shadows, and we'll begin anew. But today is not that day
>>
>>130499710
twitter drama
>>
>>130499313

>Slightly

Fuck it, I guess I'll just leave them as is so I don't get fucked over by resistances. Real shame you can't make them raw.

Thanks for the response famicom.

As a side note, I really hope O&R make it back in 3, or at least some sort of offensive shields. It's a cool concept that doesn't deserve to be left behind.
>>
>>130499858
7 years ago it was just as bad nigga and don't even try to deny it
it just got a lot more visible nowadays
>>
>>130499878
do tell
>>
>>130500028
I never implied it wasn't, just as you say it's more visible because of the increase of users that come here every year
>>
>>130499858
lel I'm a newfag from 2007 and the cancer was already fully developed, the hell are you talking about.
>>
>>130500129
i don't recall names, but him got into beef with some trans degenerate group.
>>130500187
It will get better like you said, that or we will all get nuked/locked up in FEMA camps in the end.
>>
>Cast Light and Spell Parry shield in Amana
's all good.
>>
>tfw to get my last achievment I'm going to have to grind solaire because nobody uses summons on PC

Maybe I'll get lucky at anal rodeo
>>
Man, I despise the Hexer's hood but it's one of the few ways to actually have enough casts to move around and kill things with pyro.

I'll go get Licia's hat at 30 faith, honest
>>
WHITE POWER TENDENCY
>>
RACE WAR NOW
>>
Is playing without a shield just as viable in DeS as in the other games?
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>>130499684
I think it adds a bit of bonus damage (like 50 AR or more) but I might be wrong. SMS is still hilarious to use, it makes you feel fucking invincible.
As I said, it's really hard to measure the amount of damage OrmaReeves do because of how inconsisntent it is. Depending on how far your opponent is, counter damage and the amount of hair on Tanimura's jjap ass it can deal from 600 to 890 damage per hit.
>>130499958
Well I'm noticing an increase in like maybe 60-120 (max) AR. If that seems good enough for you then go for it.
>As a side note, I really hope O&R make it back in 3, or at least some sort of offensive shields. It's a cool concept that doesn't deserve to be left behind.
I'm sure they'll add at least some kind of a weaponized shield.
>>
>>130500640

REMOVE AL BHED
>>
>>130500727
>>130500640
>>130500574
GRAND WIZARD WAKKA DELIVER US FROM THIS EVIL
>>
>>130500680
yeah
>>
>>130500680
It's what I did. Rolling skeletons gets a little annoying without a shield though.
>>
>>130498423
wheelchan is dead as fuck now, maybe ten thousand people still go there. Look at their board activity on the main page.
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>>130500683
>I think it adds a bit of bonus damage (like 50 AR or more) but I might be wrong.
Even if it adds anything, it's a flat bonus, no magic scaling or anything.
>>
>>130500680
More so I think. I think DeS is the easiest to play without a shield.
>>
>>130500820
aye, like every chan that came before it, you simply can't replace 4chins
its too big
>>
>>130499724
What's wrong with /co/? Genuinely curious, I thought it was the opposite of those boards. I would consider /tv/ the worst.
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>>130501190
>I would consider /tv/ the worst.
Woah, watch it their hothead
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>>130501190
western comic and cartoons are full to the brim with how do i put it, undesirables.
/co/ also got flak because of some mod going full retard.
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>>130500950
wizchan's the only one I can see that might weather another five years. There are a lot of old, dead chans. I feel bad for the people who visit them.
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>>130501190

It used to be a super chill board, but between movies and recent comic/cartoon developments, its become a battleground for /tv/ and /pol/
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>>130501460
Most of them just turned into tripfag circlejerks and places for posting borderline CP. They're essentially just dumping grounds for things that aren't allowed on 4chan.
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>Royal Rat Authority

Literally the giant rat that makes all of the rules
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>>130501620
deepest lore
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>>130501517
This makes sense.

>>130501613
There are some tripfag circlejerks, but I don't consider those quite dead. I mean the ones where you can post and maybe somebody will reply within a couple of weeks. Like tohnochan or 7chan.
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I had to.
The name was too good
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Anyone on scholar of the first sin pc around 1.7m want to help me out with throne defender/watcher and smelter demon?
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>they told woolie about the old man
man fuck this
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>>130502698
You want this to be slower than it is?
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>>130502698
This playthorugh would never end without any help and he'd take litearlly 2 hours to beat the area again
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>>130502089

I could, but I'm not sure why you posted that picture.

What you wanna do first? What god shall we use?
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>>130502698
>wanting the ride to never end
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Why do they even stream if he litearlly never becomes body form
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>>130503036
blame germanspy and his WT babysitting
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>>130503036
what pisses me off right now is German Spy. I'm usually alright with him. but he is spoiling fucking everything.
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>>130502874
Posted it so people could see my SM level

I'm gonna hit up smelter demon, found some peeps to help me zerg throne defender and nashandra, I'll set my ring to desire at iron keep for smelter demon if you want to come help me out, it'd be appreciated
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>>130502698
Can someone link this?

I don't watch a lot of youtubers or streamers, is this actually good because it's all people are talking about now
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>>130503161
Well, without him Pat would always tell him to kill himslef and without any help Woolie would never turn body form at all
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>>130503170
its either that or woolie being stuck on 1-1 for 5 hours
he's that bad man
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>>130503310
>this actually good because it's all people are talking about now
No, we're just waiting to kill him
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>>130503310
It's on Twitch

/superbestfriendsplay
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>>130501930

10/10 Nigga would summon.

>>130503260

But you said 1.7m in the post and that character has only 300k. I can help you if you're 1.7m, not if you're 300k.

You wanna summon me at the entrance bonfire, or outside Smelter's room?
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>>130503310
twitchtvsuperbestfriendsplay
It's actually quite the opposite
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>>130503415
>>130503469
>>130503563

ahh I've heard of them, never watched their shit though

I hope it's not like every other fucking livestream where they have a game playing in the background while they read donations for 4 hours
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>liam eats a food tray
>then eats some kind of fruit bowl
>now is on a bag of ruffles
how is he the skinniest of the 4 again
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>>130503480
oh woops, clicked the wrong screenshot lol

was kind of distracted

next to the bonfire would be nice, just waiting for the credits to roll since i killed nashandra, i never realized i coudln't skip em
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>slept, had a shower and fixed up 2 burgers
>he's still on soul form
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>>130503650
I eat all day and i'm skinny as fuck, good digestion i guess
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>>130503730

Right well, sign is down at the Bonfire with desire ring on.

Fading Memory is the character name.
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>>130503650

The boy has the metabolism of a neutron star.
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>>130503732
Maybe they're streaming the game to stream it instead of just to be invaded.
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>>130503641
what the fuck why is this allowed I just wanted to see them play the game
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>>130503650
he fucks his clone of a gf every 5 hours
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>>130503641
>while they read donations for 4 hours

Well...
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>>130503732
And he still didn't beat another world, he did Phalanx that's it
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>>130503170
nice rare pic
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>>130503870
they stream for 1-2 hours and read donations for 30-50mins
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>>130503870
You came at the exact wrong time, they're just taking a time out
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>>130503950
got a whole album I've been working on for a while. Here it is boiii almost 700 DeS images and always looking for new ones.

http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC
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How am I supposed to replicate my lancer build for DaS1?
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>>130503870
They prefer to take breaks and read donations every few hours
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Didn't they say they were only streaming like twice a month? At this rate they won't finish in 2016.
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>>130503885
>>130504042
kek, ahh well it's not like a I had high hopes going into a twitch stream
>>130504061
Seems like with 4 people 1 guy could be reading shit and the others could be playing/switch off when they got tired
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>>130504375
This is their first stream since 2014
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>invade that bellkeep area in iron keep
>as i spawn host has pursuers and dog fog/resonent soul after me
>heals multiple time
>i use great heal every time i backstab or fire snake
>he chugs and still loses
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>>130503650
NOW HES EATING CHOCOLATE
ITS NOT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR
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goddamn liam you fat fuck
>>
I thought i could get the chance to invade him right after Phalanx, this shit is going on waay too long now
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>>130504081
nice, i will post if i find something thats not in the album
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>>130504716
Think of the bright side, Demon Souls PvP is probably the most active it's been in years now
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>>130504726
thanks, appreciate it.
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Man Matt is such a fucking baby, why did he come if he just whines
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>>130504871
so he can get a cut of the donations :^)
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>>130504871
he's "the boss man"
this season of LPs all have him on it.
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>>130504824
Well, that depends, everyone is just waiting for one guy
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>>130504871

Because he hates Tidus so much.
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>>130504828
this one is very rare
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>>130487208
> MFW black gulch poison party with no leafs
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>>130505080
that one is pretty good.
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>>130505080
holy shit never seen this one before. Pretty good.
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What would it take for competitive DaS3 pvp to take off?
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>>130505146
balance
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Does anyone know who that Legit_ShadowGOD guy is on PS3? Everytime I invade him, I'll hit him. I can see that I hit. Even backstabs. But he takes no damage. Is he a cheater that just hasn't been caught yet?
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>>130505146
nothing, fuck competitive pvp
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>>130505146
people willing to throw money at it so people could call themselves professionals for taking it
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>>130505274
You're on PS3? Psn? I rarely see consolefags
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>>130505243
>big "what is sm" M
>balance
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>>130505343
Yeah. I get matched with him everytime I feel like invading in Lagstab Forest.
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BILLLY!
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BILLY!!!!!
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It works because I made her as fat as possible too
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thanks for the help with smelter memory :)

sorry about the delayed thanks, distracted irl
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jesus fuck he's BIG
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>>130505673
love this guy ....gay?
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>>130505769
Who, Woolie?
>>
>>130505243
>>130505325
Assuming it's well balanced. And SM is gone. And respecs (even disappearing levels) are possible. And the money is (potentially) there. What does it take? A good stream? Commentary? What?

>>130505283
git gud
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>>130505865
yeah
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>>130505945

Used to play ball, ya know.
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>>130505146
No instant backstabs
>>
PAT MIGET!
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>>130505945
Yeah he's really tall. Pat is also a tiny baby man. Their few kinect videos show that off. Plus how Kinect can't see black people
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This is the best Souls gameplay I've ever seen! I didn't even know about the Kitkats and Snuggies!
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Matt looks so dead inside.
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>>130506179
He is
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>>130506071
that reminds me when pat felt on the middle of those jap beds and his gf didn't pick him up as he struggles like a baby to get up.
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>>130506058
people who played the demo already said it isn't instant, it's slower than DS1 and DeS but still faster than DS2
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>>130505736
>The real Dark Souls begins now
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>>130506284
Jesus christ I'm crying laughing just remembering that shit
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>>130506374
>he removed the poison
casul
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>>130506454
Why is his girlfriend so absurdly hot?
>>
>>130506179
My feat hurt. I'm out of chocolate. I wish I was at home with The Missus.
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>>130506494
>he still plays DS2
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Can I get the southern ritual band +2 from defeating najka in normal game with a bonfire ascetic?
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>>130506512

Pretty sure they swing.

Also a sense of humor counts for miles.
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>>130506512
midget fetish
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>>130506531
>memeing this hard
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>>130506671
>memeing at all
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>>130506584
ye
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>>130506745
wow sweet thanks

anyone want to come for that? sm 2m
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>It takes 6 basic fireballs to kill an Alonne knight

Fuck.
I'm in for a bad time
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>Chilling in the Nexus
>Suddenly get some souls
>Check on my NPCs
>Patches spontaneously died
Alright
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>>130506879
Wih a ring can my SM 49m or 150m find you?
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>people that pvp with crowns on
>implying they're some sort of royalty

fuck off nigger
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>>130507105
Have fun with bosses that are literally made of fire.
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>>130507105
Most of Iron Keep is a bad time

They forgot how to place enemies in good spots so they just spazzed out and made it retarded
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>>130501460
420chan too, mostly due to /wooo/ though.
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>Invade in Dragon Shrine
>Host runs to the entrance and summons 2 Phantoms
>Summoning Phantoms in Dragon Shrine
>I NEED DRAGONZORD POWER, NOW!
>Me and my 2 Dragonbros chase them to the entrance
>They retreat to Aerie and spam spells at me on the bridge
>Eventually kill me
>Just as I die the Dragon Parries them on the bridge and kills all 3
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>>130507161
I'm really not sure, could try

Setting my ring to blood, will be next to the bonfire
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>invade someone
>they chug
>also chug
>beat them
>they get mad and invite me to 'drink more estus you fucking cunt"
hitlerious
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>>130507321
Platform?
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>6 hours
>they killed 1 O N E boss
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>tfw you go full hollow for the first time due to the same enemy

You remember how it feels dont you /dsg? What was it?
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>>130507274
My last invasion in there I invaded some really nooby guy, I was taking messing with him until he ran onto the bridge, I chased him forgetting about the dragon which destroys the bridge
I died first which annoyed me because I was kicking his shit in

>>130507458
kek
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>>130507482
pc
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>>130507551
2 or 3 of those hours are downtime, though.
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>>130507671
i know,but holy damn this is snailborne level
>>
>>130507671
How can you play video games for a living but need an hour of "downtime" for every two hours of playing?
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>>130507606
Well fug :DDD
i'm on Ps3
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>>130507746
Is it really that bad considering it's Woolie's first time playing the game? I haven't played DeS but going through Scholar for the first time (it being my first Souls game), it took me 70 hours. I can get through it much faster now but the first run is always slow.
>>
Why is superbestfriendsplay so popular? They aren't funny at all. Fucking Game Grumps was better than this shit.
>>
>>130507814
darn

can anyone help me at shaded ruins normal game +1 bonfire ascetic pc scholar of the first sin? im trying to get the southern ritual band +2 but this balancer pker guy keeps killing me over and over and they pretty much 1 shot me and im completely helpless against them
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It's fucking over

Armorer Dennis tanks fire hard

That wasn't even with his shield raised, I caught him in the cast animation for his soul spear
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>>130507561
The first time I fought this bitch was hell, if you dont have dex at her level you literally cant pass her without cheesing it.
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>>130507995

Sure thing. I'll put my sign down by the Bonfire, we'll use God of Desire.
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>>130508098
>>130508017
>just parry them
it's not le hard
>>
Why don't the undead people you kill respawn at the bonfire?
Why did you respawn somewhere other than the bonfire you were at when Seathe first kills you?
>>
>>130508098
>Fume Top
>Desert Sorceress Bottom
That would look so ugly without the aura
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>>130508238
Because fuck internal consistency.
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oh my fucking god
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And that's the stream!
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>>130507995
i can help senpai-o, whats your sm range?
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>>130508185
Parrying isn't the issue
I'm gonna burn all my casts on ~50-100 damage hits and then I'll have to punch him to death.
>>
Fuck this stream
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>>130508321
2m

>>130508143
okay ill check right now
>>
speed
>>
Holy fuck that was the worst.
>>
Wow, that was... well... wow...
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>>130508098
Literally who?
>>
>activating the crypt's lights on SOTFS
well
i wasn't expecting that
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>Woolie fucking up constantly
>invaders getting cucked
>that ending
>>
6 hour stream. Bound to happen.
Was fun to watch though. Don't know why anyone expected a spectacular outcome, especially considering he is working fucking backwards from DS2 to BB now to DeS.
>>
No coop, no onvasions, literally wasted my time
>>
>>130508017
Why are you even at Iron Keep?
If you're doing a pure pyro run, that should be the last place you visit on your way to 4 great souls.

At very least, you ought to pick up Fire whip and GC from Gren, and Great Fireball after Freja before doing Iron Keep, so you at least have some firepower.

You can also just buy multiple scrolls of fireball and stack casts to spam him to death. If Dennis is making you cry then you have no hope of ever taking down Fume Knight.
>>
>>130508185
not even, both of them cant compete with 2 handed greathammer smashes
>>
>>130508584
Because I asked in the thread, people told me to do it.
I took the challenge.

I regretted it as soon as I arrived.
>>
>That ending
>German literally berating Woolie for having the that scope on his tems
>Matt being a giant salty baby the entire time
>The most uncensored Pat in months constantly telling people to fuck off
>>
>>130508401

Don't worry, we can try again.
>>
>>130508017
>that level of health and stamina
You aren't supposed to be here, especially as a pyro
>>
haha woops sorry memory

im gonna go get the scorpion guy to come with us this time
>>
Would DaS2 have been better if Dark Lurker wasn't optional?
>>
I was playing Demons Souls, did they even beat Fool's Idols
>>
is an estoc + parrying dagger a fun build for a challenge before DS3?
I can get both right at the start of the game in new londo, never tried parrying dagger instead of shield (or no shield)
>>
>>130508657
An early Iron Keep is hardly the most grueling challenge you'll face in your playthrough.
Just wait until Amana and Brume Tower.
>>
>>130508701
>making up your own lore
>>
>>130508790
No, he literally beat Phalanx and died tw times on the phantom right before th idol
No coop, no PVP
>>
BILLY!
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>>130508701
>The most uncensored Pat in months constantly telling people to fuck off
I love this Pat
>>
>>130508803
Amana won't be that bad.
By then I'll have a spell parrying shield and that's something I can pull off consistently for hours.
The fire resist from the water will be annoying but nothing outrageous.

Brume is another matter though.
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>>130508790
nope. they died to the BP in front of her fog gate twice and the stream is now over.
>>
Gwyn would be the hardest boss in the series if they didn't let you parry him.
>>
>>130508790
No, Woolie's cowardice was too strong and having to take 90 minutes of the stream being dedicated to WE MUST THANK EVERYONE SO TIME TO STOP

Another time my darling Scraping Spear, another time. I'll get to taste his delicious tears one day.
>>
>>130508951
Rolling in the fight is pretty easy though
>>
who the fuck is billy?
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>>130508401
god of desire right? that's awfully sinful young hollow.
>>
>>130508951
Not really. You can tank him to death with a greatshield. You can poise through his shit and facetank him with black iron armor and a decent weapon. You can practically one-shot him with buffs or with dark bead.

He's not even really all that difficult even if you handicap himself.
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>>130507156
heh, what a weird accident.
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>>130508851
Maximum billying
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>>130509043
He's the new Woolie.
>>
thanks tornado and memory :) that would have taken me all night by myself
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>>130509043
He drives the shame car.
>>
Welp, stream turned out to be nothing
Anyone up for coop or PVP or whatever
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>>130509086
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>>130509043
Nice ass
>>
gonna be going after the ring of blades +2 from the pursuer in drangleic castle throne room, do you guys think you can help me with that one too?

I've kinda got a shopping list
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>That fire
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>>130509158
Thanks for letting me come along! Haven't fought her in forever, so it was nice to see her again.

>>130509430
I'd love to come along; god ring desire again?
>>
>everyone talking about des stream
>open stream
>some guys talking and not even playing
wtf
>>
>>130509547
You came 6 hours too late
>>
>>130509547
streams over, this is the shity aftermath.
>>
>>130509535
Yeah :) meet you at the first bonfire in drangleic, I'm not exactly sure where the throne room is though, but I know its somewhere around the entrance
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>>130509535
Man, Nadja has some nice tits.
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>>130509086
I already killed Yurt. Patches literally just died for no reason.
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>>130509640
Gotta ascetic the bonfire and get it to NG+ first, haha.
>>
>>130509535
woops, sorry, forgot to burn ascetic lol
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>>130509070
I found him the hardest boss I've fought when I didn't know you could parry him, but I was rolling through his shit and attacking with a lifehunt scythe. He was hard to chug on. I know Oroboro did a SL1 playthrough and he said he spent almost half of his playthrough fighting Gwyn.
>>
What's so bad about being a black phantom in Demon's Souls?
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>>130507156
source on that pic pls
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>>130510168
Candy anime
>>
>>130509963
The maiden wont listen to your calls and will "forget" to pick you up
>>
>>130509963
Being a black phantom? Your health is reduced notably, but nothing else.

Fun fact: black phantom players in DeS can kill enemies without them aggro-ing.
>>
I'm in Scholar of the First Sin.

Do the the statues that come to life eventually respawn?
> Stone Soldiers: infinite respawn, I know that
> Normal soldiers
> Mannequins
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>I know, I'll install a jump in my race track
>>
Why does DaS3 look so fucking bad? Why did they make estus recovery so fast? Why did they fail to implement power stancing? Why is the game's netplay as floaty as DeS but twice as fast, making it look even shittier?
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>>130507105
POISON
MIST
TOXIC
MIST
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>>130510205
I see a few under google but ill find it thanks
>>
holy crap was jean an actual player? that was a fuckton of damage!
>>
>>130510384
just stick with das dude, your nostalgia just isnt going to let you enjoy anything else. go lag stab someone or some shit
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>>130510369
Victory, woo.
>>
>>130510516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAACU3_mdfQ
If I was truly nostalgic I would love this. It's Demon's Souls but faster.
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>>130510502
Yeah, it was!

Always a fun fight, thanks for summoning me again!
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>>130510496
that was my first waifu. i have a thing for serious/ and misterious grils
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>>130510361
They all do. The only enemies that don't respawn are the ones that you have to use a Fragrant Branch of Yore on (except the ogre in Aldia I think).
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DARK SOULS 3 IS OUT???????


WHAT WHEN DID I MISS THIS??
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>>130510384
>Why is this game that I haven't played and haven't seen any footage of outside of a network test where they fucked with a lot of settings

At least wait until the games out. It's like you want the game to be bad.
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>>130498390

Does your character have a sidecut?
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>>130510634
next is executioner's chariot ng+ for the cloranthy ring +2, want to meet at the bridge approach?
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>>130508238
Maybe it takes a while to respawn, Like a few hours or so, And fully hollowed respawn a lot quicker then you do and get into position again? But that doesn't explain non undead enemies so i guess dont think about it
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>>130510384
>Why did they make estus recovery so fast
Because DaS2's paradigm of having slow but virtually limitless healing wasn't good and didn't fix any of the issues of DaS1's fast healing. Slow healing slows the pace of fighting, and dying because you run out of limited healing is always more engaging than dying because you got hit during a slow healing animation. In pvp, 'slow' healing is still too fast, so just slowing down the animation doesn't solve balance issues.

Powerstancing was a kind of shitty mechanics. Most weapons had half-baked powerstance movesets and very few were worthwhile or even useful. In most cases, powerstancing was just a worse version of 2handing. The few cases where it was better were legitimate balance issues that eventually got nerfed. DaS3's approach of having some weapons naturally dual-wield as their 2handed moveset is an elegant solution that doesn't force the developers to include useless movesets for double halberds or other such garbage nobody will ever use.
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>>130510734
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>>130510721
nooooooooooooo :(
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>>130510734
It's not, anon is just shitposting about a network test from a while ago where they set everyones equip load to 0%.

Japan release is March, everywhere else is April.
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>>130510761
She has the ugly sidebraids thing
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>>130510617
? its literally dark souls but faster and without any of the garbage backstab mechanics
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>>130507551

Is our savior DSP going to make a Dark Souls 3 video when it's released?
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>>130510853
>>130510617
thisss
and this
>>130510384


What are these guys talking about?
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>>130510384
>Why is the PVP bad and floaty from this network test where everyone is at 0% equip load?

The pvp in literally every souls game has been shit. If you're really going to go "HURR THE GAME IS SHIT" over the pvp being fucking bad (when we haven't even seen what pvp will look like in the fucking release version) then you wanted the game to be doomed from the start so you could be a whiny cunt on /dsg/.
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>>130510721
Sorry, I meant to say "despawn"

I like to despawn enemies ... but if we need the mannequins to activate the elevator in Drangelic Castle, it would seem that they would never despawn
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>>130510818
>dying because you run out of limited healing is always more engaging than dying because you got hit during a slow healing animation
This is so fucking wrong. Having to look for an opening before you can heal makes fights much more tense than being fucking invincible for five minutes until you squander a resource. The quick healing in BB, matched with Bosses' failure to aggro in response, made a lot of bosses in that game really fucking easy, until they went apeshit at 1/3 health. Da32 will probably be the same.

Also power stancing had some neat combinations and made dual wielding more interesting. It allowed more build creativity.
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>>130510984
cant wait for more dick lightning xD
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>>130510818
No, the slow healing is the right way to do it in pvp.
It's the added defense while healing, gradual healing, and lloyds being so expensive + shitty that makes it unbalanced.
Still, healing is dangerous, that's the way it should be.

Do not defend DaS3 healing. You cannot hit them.
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>>130511156
The elevator stays activated for the rest of your playthrough.
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>>130510896
Oh, thank goodness

April? I don't know if I can finished Dark Souls 2 in time. I just beat the double Dragon Riders
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>>130511217
Healing isn't dangerous in DaS2 pvp.
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>>130511120
>The pvp in literally every souls game has been shit
I honestly disagree. It's the kind of game where playing optimally is boring or frowned upon, but there was fun to be had fucking around in both 1 and 2.
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>>130511156
>I like to despawn enemies ...
So I'm not the only one.

I've been doing a run where I've tried to despawn every single enemy in the game.
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>>130511214

I prefer dick lightning, over his whatever level character in DeS that was running around with unupgraded gear.

Besides, faith was nerfed, but he still did a good job in the DLCs
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>>130511217
>Healing is dangerous in DaS2

Also just fucking buy Lloyd's Talisman if you're worried about the other person healing. There's no soul memory so there's literally no reason not to carry Lloyd's if you're going to complain about healing in DaS3.
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>>130511427
I did that in my original Dark Souls 2 run, because I was completely new to combat games and I was a mage

> find one enemy, spam spells to death
> do that 15 times
> find next enemy, spam spells to death
> do that 15 times

Now I'm in SOTFS, and I've finally learned melee combat
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>>130511508

Lloyd's are terrible, when there are like a dozen other healing options in DaS2
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>Don't know where to go after Anor Londo
>Don't want to deal with Amana
Guess I'm done with Dark Souls
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>>130511329
Yes. Yes it is. Aside from turtling with old radiant lifegems / mushrooms.
It's the most punishable healing in the series.
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>>130511632
Talk to snek
Talk to shota trap snek
Explore
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>>130511632
Go to the Duke's Archives

Alternatively if you want to be a darkwraith go kill sif, kill four kings, and talk to Kaathe before you place the lordvessal
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>>130511508
Lloyd's have never been an appropriate answer to healing.
They, and every equivalent, is always too slow and easy to avoid to be effective. They're always shit, and they're always made to be shit. In the best case scenario that somebody actually lets you hit them with it, they can just back off and wait out the effect.
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>>130511632
Go to the forest to get the ring then go to New Londo.

Summon NPCs for Amana.
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???
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>>130511835
what the fuck
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>>130511835
I'm laughing
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>>130511835
>Dark Souls PvP in a nutshell
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>>130511835
this is amazing, family.
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>>130511835
>someone using my hud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

i made a update today btw
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/1015/?
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>>130511805
I think lloyd's are fine as they are. Invading should be difficult. You're in someone else's home, you've kicked down their door, and you're trying to steal their shit; there should be a home field advantage, and it should be at least mildly difficult to offset.
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Man, those Forlorn BPs sure now how to put the scythe to good use.
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>>130511835
lag switched because you were twinking
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>get invaded by some guy in Eleum Loyce
>lag is fucking absurd, we can barely fight each other
>eventually he just stops moving for like ten seconds, use that time to hit him but he doesn't take any damage
>suddenly the game catches up and he dies but at the same time my health also goes from being full to about 5%

I can't even tell what the fuck it was that did all that damage to me. Lag is a bizarre mistress.
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>>130512270
The end result of your 'minor' home field advantage is always that everyone loses interest in normal invading and runs of to twinking, CE shittery, or honorabu duerus.

I just want the mechanic to not be shit, I don't care which player is hosting or how you think they've been morally inconvenienced by my presence.
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>>130511835
Dark Souls 1 is an utterly flawless masterpiece.
Delete this.
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>>130512560
Just make it a resin. Problem solved
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>>130512302
I wish the scythe didn't scale how it does. I can't use that for invading people because I have to be human to invade. Fuck you, Forlorn
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I hope the MLGS in Dark Souls 3 has the radial attack from BB. I caught so much people with that.
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>>130510713
the gym leader or what
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>>130512560
If you made things any easier for invaders, you'd just force a big chunk of the remaining playerbase offline or into ganksquads

'Sides which, if you can't kill a dude who is stock still chugging estus for a small eternity, you probably don't deserve to take his shit anyhow
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>>130512778
I think it could be better implemented, that's for sure. Like an effect that blocks estus recovery for a set period of time after hitting someone with a BS/riposte, or a spell that blocks healing within an effect area around the caster.

Anything but that painfully slow pebble toss. It's just not an effective tool.
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There should be an Ultra Great Sword that does 1 damage per hit to the enemies max health in PVP.
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>>130512225
I like the marked bars, lines, and new font.

Is it possible for you to make a Bloodborne style minimal HUD with smaller bars, perhaps with transparent icons for weapons/shields, leaving just items and spells?
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>tfw you get Sif to 5% health and watch him for a minute before you kill him
Feels good man
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>>130510774
Sorry man! Stepped away for a bit. Did you still want some company for anything?
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>>130512865
BB has literally the best iteration of the MLGS ever. I hope they take a lot of that and put it into DaS3.

In general, BB has a lot of really awesome movesets and attack animations. I hope a lot of that same style makes it into 3.
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>>130512930
yes

>>130513083
well yes but a guy already made a BB themed HUD, but i could do that. Also, you mean removing the weapons and shields? that would be easy, the problem is that in the menu to select weapons, there would be text but not icons.
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>invaded in Painted World
>watchdog doesn't throw flag
>looking for invader
>seriously looking
>fucking hide and seek world champ bullshit
>no sign of anyone. decide to wait on bridge
>waiting
>randomly die instantly, like I had a heart attack and just gave up on life

What.
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>>130513298
We'll no doubt get some cool moves, but there's no way we're getting BB movesets.
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>all these petrified people in Aldia's Keep
seriously?
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>>130513545
Dumb hollows shouldn't entertain the basilisk overlord
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>>130513471
He lag switched you and knocked you off the edge. He did it so well you didn't even know you fell off.

Or maybe watchdog just isn't perfect.
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anyone want to come help me with ng+ chariot? 2m sm scholar of the first sin pc

please i need the ring T.T
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>>130513545
If you unpetrify the one on the left near the basilisk (assuming you're facing it), I think he has 2 bonfire ascetics, one of the best places to farm them since you spend one to make him respawn and he drops 2.

Also good place to farm dragon bones.
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>>130513674
I'm back broseph, I'll put my sign down with desire. Be there in a minute.
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>>130513545
Giant basilisk petrification buildup is near instant, and it lingers after the actual cloud is gone.
That's gotten me a couple times.
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>>130513692
If you use the second ascetic on the bonfire after, you can farm infinite Fragrant Branches from the mimic.
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>>130513508
Hopnestly, everything I've seen so far from DaS3 makes it look like even the dull, standard weapons have movesets as flashy and neat as BBs.

In fact, some of them seem even better, because souls games had more clearly defined uses and functions for the attacks in their movesets and 3 so far looks like it still has that more holistic design alongside more flashy and unique animations.

I just hope that carries into the really exceptional and gimmicky stuff like unique boss weapons and the like. DaS2 had too many 'special' weapons with R2 projectiles as their only unique trait.
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>>130513227
>>130513674
haha yeah man, desire, meet at the bridge approach
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>>130513508
I don't know, could be rad as fuck if they implement the Battle Arts with the MLGS right.
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>>130513508
well charged attacks are back at least. weapon arts will also make up for no trick weapons I guess. Going to miss running around mashing the transformation over and over.
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>>130513674
>40 STR
>40 DEX
>89 AGL
>39.7% equip load
You wouldn't need help if you did a little respec.
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>>130513779
>DaS2 had too many 'special' weapons with R2 projectiles as their only unique trait.
Drake Wing Ultra Great Sword is the only reason I haven't killed myself. Drake Wing Ultra Great Sword saved my life. I'm glad I tried out the Drake Wing Ultra Great Sword.
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>>130513924
Are you ok, anon? Blink once if the DWUGS is behind you right now.
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>>130513508
The problem with the weapons getting progressively cooler and more fun to use is that it makes going backwards in the series feel a lot worse. Like I started the series with Scholar and have just played more of it overall, so whenever I go back and play DaS1 I'm always disappointed by how it doesn't feel as good to swing around a weapon. Hell, plenty of them don't even have basic combos - hammers and axes and shit just repeat the same singular swing.
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>>130513806
The cool way to do it:
R2's are projectiles, L1 and L2 weapon arts are both different, unique magic attacks

The way they'll actually do it
L2 weaponart is the generic heavy attack projectile from previous games and consumes 2/4 of your mana bar for the damage of a soul arrow. R2s don't do anything special and are recycled from the generic greatsword moveset
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>>130514030
>games should get worse so the old ones live up to my nostalgia
Demons Souls is shit and I loved it
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>>130514193
>Demons Souls is shit
nice bait
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>>130514193
Nostalgia? I just said I played Scholar first.
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>>130513781
That was fun! Anything else ya need murderized?
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>>130513718
>>130513781
yes! got it! Thanks!

>>130513918
yeah im gathering stuff so i can put a build together, im really bad at builds though so hopefully it turns out okay
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>>130514270
It had some outstanding moments, plenty of atmosphere, and a couple of great environments, but overall it suffers from samey movesets, a dumb healing system, and a plethora of shitty, gimmicky bosses.
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You know, even though the horse alone is really easy, I gotta give credit to the Executioner's Chariot for being a really creative boss. It's rare to get a boss that isn't just a straight fight, and when that does happen they often tend to be shit like Bed of Chaos.
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>>130514437
i just need a bunch of twinkling titanite right now, does anyone know a good way to get that?
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>>130514517
>a boss must be hard to be good
t. ds2 player
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What are some fun quality weapons to use in DaS2? I've been using th bastard sword forever
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>>130514785

Sun Sword. Have fun getting those medals :^)
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>Replaying DaS2 since vanilla
>Use the broadsword since I got it because it looks cool
>Get to dragon shrine
>Guy drops drakekeeper sword
>It's basically a broadsword but bigger and longer
>Just wasted 3 chunks on my sword
FUCK

Is it worth it to upgrade this one fully instead of the broadsword?
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>>130514560
Yep, even better is that you don't even have to close the gate if you don't want to, you can just shoot at it.
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>>130514849
I've already got that. It seemed worse than a normal longsword
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>>130514656
You can farm it by using a bonfire ascetic at the 4th bonefire in FoFG

you bonfire ascetic, pick up the twinkly tits (you have to drop down to the ledge) then go homeward bone/feather to the bonefire, go into the memory of Jeigh I think, pick up an ascetic, kill the giant lord and repeat.

You can always youtube Giant Lord farming if I explained it shitty, and use an agape ring if you don't want your SM to explode
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>>130514560
Yeah! It's a neat battle with some cool BGM.

>>130514656
Farm the clerics in Shrine of Amana, or aescetic the Dragon Aerie a bunch?
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>>130514760
A boss must provide any semblance of challenge to be good.
The majority of DeS bosses are unthreatening, boring push-overs, and the worst thing a game can do is be boring.
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>>130514870
dont fucking stress upgrade materials in dark souls 2 they hand out every kind of titanite like candy
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>>130514760
Sinh is a great boss and he's easy to kill.

A lot of bosses in DeS (Phalanx, Leech Monger, Armor Spider) are just bad. Many others are decent but forgettable and easy. Only a few stand out at all.
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>>130514870
It's straight up better than the broadsword, so yeah, it is.
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>>130514785
Caveat:
Scaling in Darksouls 2 is bad. Long story short, even under ideal circumstances, with the best scaling weapon possible, you still only get a very small amount of AR from scaling. The way they implemented the system is just bad.

Most weapons are stronger as elementally-infused than left as physical, and the rare exceptions still don't benefit enough from scaling for it to be worthwhile going beyond their minimum requirements. This is why so many weapons tend to have obscenely high requirements.

So when you make a quality build in DaS2, it's not to maximize the scaling benefit of quality-scaling weapons, but to meet the requirements of weapons which require a high amount of both str and dex. "Quality" weapons in DaS2 aren't weapons with scaling strong enough to make a heavy investment in those stats worthwhile, but weapons with requirements high enough to necessitate it.

That said, some fun quality weapons would be stuff like the Ivory King's UGS, Yorgh's Spear, Murakumo, etc.
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So how does sin work in Dark Souls II?
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>>130515112
>Phalanx
first boss.
>Leech Monger
yes he is bad, but the area is really hard and it would be unfair if he were stronger imo
>Armor Spider
yea that was kinda shitty, intimidating, but not good
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>>130514870
No reason to use broadsword unless you just prefer the look of a basic sword
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>>130513352
I didn't know who my pic was, thought it was bakemonogatari or something

my weeb levels have been soul sucked by this shit life
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>>130515276
You get sin by invading and killing people or killing NPC's. Once you get enough you can hollow beyond 50%. Blues don't invade you unless you have some sin.
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>>130515276
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/sin
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>>130515094
Forgive me, I'm just a stingy person when it comes to finite materials. But thanks for telling me that

>>130515159
Okay thanks. It looks cool too which is a big plus

>>130515336
The broadsword carried me in many tight spots. But I think you're right. I can always use it again if I want to anyway
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>>130515447
>Going below 50% HP with Wretch status will not further increase the damage of the Dark Pyromancy Flame, Greatsword of the Forlorn or Scythe of the Forlorn.
No fun allowed
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>>130514894
I love doing it.
Only really viable on casters, but when you do it's so fun.
A simple punch is enough to kill it after it fucks up
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how people that say sif is female see him

>>130515349
sabrina changes on every season, because she was evil in season one and pokemon tried to become more childish/innocent so they dont know what to do with her and change her all the time, this is her from the 3 generation.
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Why is Vendrick a giant ?
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>>130515260
This is a misleading and somewhat wrong post.
The way scaling works is different, but it's not a "very small amount", especially if you're using STR weapons. Scaling is important.
Elemental infused normal weapons are the ones with garbage scaling that isn't worthwhile. They are the ones with rare exceptions.
Physical is still the best source of damage output. Otherwise you put yourself against % based element negation.

>>130514785
There aren't quality weapons in Dark Souls 2 as you'd think. C/C is generally 50% str, 25% dex in Dark Souls 2, the letter grades aren't equal.
Since scaling in DaS2 is a % of your STR/DEX/etc ATK stat, 50% str scaling means you can have at most +100 bonus AR from 99 str.
25% scaling isn't worth going for.
You can view the scaling here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16VTSt4YkfppS1YZuK8kYj0WS_Mo4vuNxnGHf2StmQic/
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>>130515740
because
dark
souls
2
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>>130515740
Nigga is strong. Strong niggas are huge.

>>130515827
Sick meme yo.
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>>130515740
Because something about the stronger a human's soul is the bigger they become

It was originally planned to work that way for the player too but that never came to fruition
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Great Job Pal
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>>130515924
>Strong niggas are huge.
>what is the main character
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>>130515924
>Strong niggas are huge
the protagonist is the strongest being in the entire world and he's very small
Also, Gwyn is much smaller than Vendrick
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>>130514948
sounds pretty specific, ill farm souls for a bit to to get this build working and then work on upgrading my gear, thanks a bunch

now im just farming nashandra a few times on ng+, anyone want to come for that?
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>>130516015
>>130516029
I chalk that up solely to a separation between gameplay and story. You wouldn't be able to pull off making the player character bigger because it would fuck up the hitboxes.
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>>130516001
>it's real
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>>130515447
>that girl with the greatsword
now that's some fine fashion souls.
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>>130516015
>>130516029
You, neither born with greatness, nor granted it by the fates.
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>>130516094
>it would fuck up the hitboxes.
ds2 already managed to do that without changing the player side
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>>130516015
You can be strong, but you can't be Vendrick strong, strong enough to go straight up in the giant's homeland and uproot the goddamn Kiln.
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>>130516069
>sounds pretty specific

It's really not, I just did a bad job explaining

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfjjdR_rFBQ

the video is pretty much the rundown of it, very easy
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>>130516094
OK, then why is Maldron the Assassin so small ? Checkmate atheists
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Infusing a weapon with an element is a %-based increase to its base AR for no stat investment. It's almost always better to go with that over physical scaling damage, especially because players no longer have an innate 20% elemental damage reduction and the amount of points required for physical scaling to surpass infusion base damage, in the cases where it's possible, are woefully inefficient.

There's a good reason why dark-infused longswords, bandit axes and curved swords are the meta. It's simply better than physical, and against a target with appreciable resistance to the element you're using, you can simply use a weapon infused with a different element.

Even in the case of weapons that are stronger as pure physical over elemental at their base requirements, the increased AR from leveling str or dex beyond those requirements are not worth the AR returned.
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>>130516332
Because Maldron is just a better you than you could ever be
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>>130515740
Because the Dark Souls world is secretly the One Piece world.
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>>130516153
Yeah! They were a fun couple too, I had killed them several times, but they were still happy to have me chill with them when I went into friendly invader mode.
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>>130516260
i dont know why you guys cant see that the main characters of the souls series are monsters in the end game. no other character can have a chance with them, of course you are much stronger than vendrick ever was, you got much more souls than he could ever dream of having.
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>>130516260
Gwyn is arguably just as strong as Vendrick was in his prime, and he's tiny
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was the claymore in the network test?
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>>130516523
No standard greatswords at all. Only the UGS, mace, axe, shortsword, spear and legion scimitars.

The scimitars were shit and I assumed they were tossed in half-done just to show off the new approach to dual-wielding.
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>>130516475
>of course you are much stronger than vendrick ever was
You get nearly destroyed by a single attack from him when he's totally hollowed out. In his prime, he could murder you without batting an eye.
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>>130516475
And you are only given that power by your actions earning it. You don't start out stronger than Vendrick, you can't even get past the Shrine of Winter by default because your soul is too feeble.

In the words of our great lord, you are a half-grown hollow at the time of kindling all four primal bonfires
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>>130516491
>Gwyn
>tiny
It's like you haven't seen his tomb. Nigga was HUGE.
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>1.8m SM
>Brume tower highlighted
>no one summoning for Fume Knight
Are dual-wielding spellswords just not appealing or something?
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>>130516260
I wonder, if the theory that the land of giants being old Lordran was true and the reason all the Lordran shit is in Drangleic because it was brought back as loot, would that mean the "giants" of DaS II aren't the giants of DaS I but rather the beings that were once the residents and "gods" of Lordran but now devolved?
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>>130516765
I saw him fairly well when he dashed across the room to plant his sword in my face
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>>130516765
Wait, which tomb was Gywn's?
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>>130516827
>bringing elemental damage into dlc bosses
Yeah, they probably just know better.
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>>130516869
I think it's the tomb after you defeat Gwyndolin
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>>130516869
Kill Gwyndolin, in Anor-Londo he's guarding it.
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>>130516396
>because players no longer have an innate 20% elemental damage reduction
They never did. They used to have 50 base defense.
This was changed to 0 base defense, but in return, elemental defense scaling increases massively faster.
Merely leveling INT/FAI to 15 each grants you that 20% elemental damage reduction, not including armor, and you get that from just getting Dark Weapon.
>dark-infused longswords, bandit axes and curved swords
Longswords, bandit axes, and curved swords are good. Element infusions are asking to have the opponent use +3 quartz, dispelling+1, and a burr / GMB.

The amount of stats required to achieve strong physical AR is entirely worth it since you can't even come close to reducing that like you can with elements.
Since Flynn is a boon even for infusions, what would you even use those stats for, given the 150 scholar meta?

You're stuck in the past here man.

The meta is Flynn robe wearers for a reason. It's very easy to have 500+ to all elements. Without GMB or +3 quartz.

>>130516475
Why would you think that? Vendrick did what you did and more.
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>>130516906
Powerstanced blue flames did pretty well on Sinh. Unless Fume's magic defense is even higher it should be OK. My actual spells will probably be shit though.
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Guys who started the war first Vendrick or the Giants?
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>>130516248
nigga souls has never had good hitboxes, ds2 didnt magically fuck it up
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>>130516996
>Why would you think that? Vendrick did what you did and more.
Not really. The player character pretty much finishes what Vendrick couldn't do himself
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>>130516937
>>130516950
That's his? Why does he need a tomb if he walked to the Kiln on his own? More like a cenotaph?
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>can't get a HeideHelmet on my knight
>got one on the first kill on my sorcerer

I hate this game
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>>130517109
SHUT THE FUCK UP ITS OK WHEN A TEAM DOES IT
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>>130517174
Yeah it's a cenotaph. It being big doesn't really mean Gwyn was huge himself. It proves nothing
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anyone still play ds2 on ps3?
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>>130515740
He put the giant soul to his dick thats why he got big nigga.
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>>130517108
Nashandra did riding Vendrick's Coattails
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>>130515968
Would be kind of cool if it did work. I see why they didn't though since after you hit max size you probably wouldn't be able to enter most places.

>>130517174
Yeah, it's an honorary tomb. He was never put in it but Anor-Londonians knew he was fucked so they built a big ass tomb and had the hideous fag son guard it so no one would have to look at him.
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>sectioned boss themes for each phase are already confirmed
god yes, that shit got my dick rock hard in Bloodborne (and other games).
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>>130517109
>fighting gaping dragon
>run toward it, avoid the torso slam
>run to its right side/my left to start swinging at its leg, 2nd one back I believe
>get a couple hits, then suddenly grabbed with no warning

Happened twice in the fight, seriously looked like a jump cut.
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>>130517457
Oh so the Giants werent really plotting taking the Vendrick's kingdom?
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>>130517603
They didn't do nothing
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>>130517108
Nashandra influenced Vendrick into stealing from the giants, it wasn't until Vendrick realized that girl was poison that he retreated to the crypt.
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So I've done Old Iron King, should I do Ivory or Sunken next? It's my first play through of them
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>>130517597
>fighting ceaseless discharge the non cheese way

lmao these fucking hitboxes wtffffffff
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The O&S fight would be much better if Ornie's dash attack actually worked properly.
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>>130517603
That's probably some fabricated lie told by Nashandra so she could get them big hard souls of theirs

>>130517709
Sunken
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>>130517603
No, they are superfuckingmad because Vendrick pilfered the throne. Their unified rage burns even after death.
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>>130517709
There's no particular order for it. Ivory has a really cool ending that would make for a good finale but I think it's the weakest of the three overall.
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>>130517457
Was Nashandra the only truly evil fragment of Manus? It seems like the other two transformed into their dark state when they got triggered by tragic events happening to their husbando kings or the kingdom. The third managed to stay good and human-like because she became a priestess or something.
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Didn't the Giants win the war against Vendrick ? Drangleic was pretty much fucked until the player character popped up out of nowhere to kill the Giant Lord (for no reason, might I add. they had it coming)
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>>130516996
>what would you even use those stats for, given the 150 scholar meta
Viggouge, endgouge or vit for poise-stacking.

And prior to the last patch scholar got, every player character had an innate 20% reduction to elemental damage, even with 0 listed elemental defense. This amount was irreducible, which means even naked and standing in water, you'd always have a minimum 20% reduction. This was why, with the 750 hardcap in elemental defenses, you could previously achieve 95% elemental damage reduction and become effectively immune to all magic. It was removed in scholar's final patch.

>Element infusions are asking to have the opponent use +3 quartz, dispelling+1, and a burr / GMB.
You can wait out defensive buffs, which has always been the best tactic for dealing with them. if someone goes into a fight assuming you'll be using elemental damage and uses GMB, you can either kite it out or swap to a physical variant of that weapon until GMB expires. If they ringswap or burr to specialize against the element you're using, you can just swap to another one. Ringswapping is not an effective way to deal with elemental damage unless your opponent literally has no other options, and unless they know going in to the fight that you'll be packing elemental damage, they'll have to take a hit before they know to swap, at which point their giving up tempo to get enough space to swap rings, which is negated by swapping your own weapon just the same.

The flat damage reduction from armor isn't particularly bad, either. You can't stack it to ridiculous amounts like with elemental, but in general the amount of effective AR lost by attacking someone at a poise breakpoint is around the ballpark ~30%, less for larger weapons.

Countering elemental damage depends entirely on knowing beforehand that they'll be using that element, and is countered both by timing out buffs, and weapon swapping. That's not really a meaningful counter at all.
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Does the Ancient Dragon look the way he does because he's made out of trees? It would make sense given his origins.

>>130517871
I think Drangleic won but it was a Pyrrhic victory.
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>>130517871
The first boss you fight is called the LAST Giant, anon.

Drangleic was devastated but their opponents were scoured from the earth in medieval fantasy holocaust.
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>>130517868
Out of the shards you meet, Nashandra and Elana are both evil.
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>>130518010
The giants retreated after the Lord was killed. The last giant is the last on Drangleic, not the last giant ever. Also before killing the Giant Lord, everything seems to indicate that drangleic was losing the war, badly
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>>130517868
None of them seem to be truly evil, they just obey their own particular nature, sort of like the Homunculi from FMA.
I just wish they explained Elana further other than "she's mad and wants revenge".
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>>130518010
>Vendrick wanted to eliminate Giants
>Gwyn wanted to end demons

Vendrick confirmed as best monarch
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>>130518217
Nashandra's outright evil. She acts how she does because she was infatuated not with the king, but his soul
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>no pre-burnt Ivory King set and sword
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>>130517728
i used to cheese ceaseless as soon as i killed quelaag for the extra souls, so i tried a bit less cheese one, chucking GLS and dodging. and then i saw the wide fucking opening in his attacks and just took him on later with a gsword. he's really easy if you go on the more spacious platform and really didn't encounter any bullshit shitboxes
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>>130517868
Nadalia came to the iron king's land with ill intentions and raged because she had no king cock to suck for power and decided to ruin a tower over it.

Elana's pretty obviously maligned, too. They make it sound like she was only on that sunken dick for the dragon that came with the deal.

And the ice bitch got the evil fucked out of her by based Ivory King.
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>>130517950
Maybe, but he seems to be more of a replica of the stone dragon carcass you find in Tseldora.
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>>130518192
>The giants retreated
Source?
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>>130518343
He certainly has the same skeletal structure but his flesh or scales or whatever they are look like bark with bits of foliage hanging off.
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>>130517728
I didn't even know he could be cheesed until recently. I just sat next to the wall by the items, waited for the whoosh sound before he swings, then rolled away and got a couple hits.
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>>130518341
Nadalia doesn't seem to be evil. She only haunted the tower because there was no king. The theme was solitude. so probably just desired the king's company.
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>>130518192
>Also before killing the Giant Lord, everything seems to indicate that drangleic was losing the war, badly
Did you go through those memories? The giants get wiped out the same as the Drangleic forces do. You can skip past most giants in those memories and you can watch them die to everything else. The bombardment in Giant Lord's area wipes out most of them, and then so does that statue's head. They don't even need to look at you. Not to mention the memory Benhart chills in. The giants get wrecked just by archers. Neither Drangleic nor the giants have much of a lead over the other, but the giants get killed pretty consistently while there are several soldiers that don't even have to worry because they kill their target giants without moving. By the time you kill the giant lord, it's just you and the giant lord facing each other
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>>130518365
I assumed that they retreated because Drangleic doesn't have much of an army left to wipe them out after the victory. Even if they didn't, I doubt they brought every last civilian to their war and I don't think Drangleic went to exterminate them on their own island
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It's sad how DaS2 had some hints of really interesting lore but chose to just throw in DaS1 fanservice instead of developing its own ideas.
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>>130517934
You could previously achieve 100% immunity. Can you cite this 750 hardcap?

You can't outwait base 55% elemental reduction, which is doable without buffs.
Element damage is only dangerous if you've got low element defense and the opponent is buffing.
Element damage is similarly only outright better than physical in the early game when players have about 50~100 element defense.

Ringswapping is very much so an effective way of dealing with element damage.
As an example, the BoB arena map with the tower in the way. The most commonly used map.
You see the glow, you hear the sound, you swap. Buffing is audibly and visually distinct. The cast animations and sounds are all different.

You don't know that the opponent has done it unless you see them stop when they see your buff.
In any case, Dispelling+1 exists. Chaos+5 exists, Hexer's+5 exists, Monastery, White Priest Robe, etc.
If you're not buffing, you're not doing damage comparable to a RoBFlynn.

TL;DR element damage is for invading early to mid game, physical is for actual pvp
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>>130518296
She acted out of desire for power. The smallest fragment represents Want, she doesn't seem to be truly malignant, rather just following her nature.
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>>130518714
The Giant Lord seemed pretty untouchable until you killed him yourself though. since he was on the frontline, being a priority target and all, it seems logical to assume that Drangleic wasn't opposing much resistance at this point
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>>130518714
That's weird, normally when I go into those memories, the giants are absolutely crushing the soldiers and win most of the time.
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>>130518307
>Ivory King UGS looks nothing like the concept art and looks like burnt plastic

Why From
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>>130518912
That creepy face on his helmet really doesn't suit a badass character like him.
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>>130518890
He wasn't even doing anything, he wasn't taking part in that section. You could assume so, but when you enter the area he's standing there doing nothing while the battle is between royal soldiers and an Ironclad Soldier against a few giants, and by the time you look his way the soldiers have died, one giant should be at like 30% health, killed by the bombardment that follows and the statue will kill the distant giant making it a 1v1
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>>130518763
It's a shame Tanimura didn't get it earlier than he did. They handed it over to him when it was already almost done
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>>130518989
But that's entirely for gameplay reasons. Having any mobs by the Giant Lord would risk them either damaging him or fighting you as you try to fight him
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>>130518763
Everything not related to the Old Ones is okay in my opinion.
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>>130518763
The only interesting lore it has is the war with the giants, like how the soldiers attack the giant tree things.

But it only gets into that very late with the very short giant memories. And even then it's kind of stupid how the giant lord dies like a bitch.

Was hoping to get into Ornstein's memory or something since he's been around long enough to see the rise and fall of Vendrick's kingdom.
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>>130519078
But it is possible to take a giant from the front to Giant Lord and make it a 2v1. The point is that if you let it play out naturally, it goes to a natural 1v1. You can grab the giant the statue would kill and move it to the giant lord. Hell, if you summon Drummond he will fuck it up and do this shit and it makes NG+ Giant Lord slightly messier
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>>130519103
I don't think that was the real Ornstein, I'm pretty sure the real thing died in Anor Londo.
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Giant Lord soul :
>Soul of the Giant Lord,
>who once conquered Drangleic.

>Vendrick crossed the seas, took prisoner
>the Giants, and brought them back to his >castle,
>clapped in irons. However, after this modest
>triumph, his countenance could be seen to
>grow darker with each passing day.

>Use the special soul of this Giant
>to acquire numerous souls,
>or to create something of great worth.

It seems to indicate that the Giant Lord does win the war against Drangleic because of the word "conquered". Even if it's only for a brief moment, as you come to kill him soon afterwards to make it a draw
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>you will never be able to talk to Velstadt in the Memory of the King
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>>130519234
I don't think they actually thought about whether it was the real ornstein or just an imitator (how you would imitate someone who died 1000's of years ago idk), I'm pretty sure it was thrown in for fanservice first then lore considerations were taken in second. Like how there's two different dudes in Havel's armor.
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Post your fashion /dsg/. I need inspiration
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>>130519410
I'm pretty sure that A-team didn't think about why the sun covenant would use a gesture that came from Demon's souls, other than just as fanservice
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>>130519410
Havel's armour is worn by all of his knights in the DaS1 lore, though. Within DaS2, Varg wearing it is whatever, but in theory he could have taken it from the corpse of a Havel knight
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>>130519410
The Havel BP in the Chasm, I am pretty sure that's the real Havel somehow. A lot of BPs in the Chasm are based from "heroes" of the first game, Ricard, Jeremiah, Pharis and Havel.
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>>130519425
>I need things to steal*
Get ye gone
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>>130519553
That's not the same universe though. It's not like the Warriors of Sunlight found the same covenant and somehow learned their teachings and gestures. There wouldn't even be a possible explanation to link them no matter how matter unlikely because they're literally different universes that aren't canon with each other.

Tbh I don't have much problem with stuff carried over from Demon's Souls. Patches, Crestfallen, and Herald are all p okay (although somehow they managed to fuck up Herald despite getting Maiden in Black right in 2009)
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This area reminds me a lot of Demon's Souls. They should have left the fog all over the stage, maybe it would hide the awful textures.
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>>130519842
Actually, having fog over the whole zone would look pretty cool, come to think of it
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>>130518835
She seemed pretty evil to me, manipulating people without a second thought for their souls, trying to get to the throne of want. Hell even staring at her portrait too long curses you.

>>130518341
Elana is a hard one since there is hardly any information on her or the king in that DLC. "Squalid" means dirty, unwanted, shoddy, poor, or lacking in standards. All we know from the guide is that when the warriors/bandits killed the king and went after the dragon, she snapped, killed them and then went to the dragon and started guarding it and helping keep it asleep while preparing for "vengeance".

Whatever Nadalia was up to never happened since she arrived too late so she instantly went dark and split her soul up.

>>130518971
It wasn't that creepy when he wasn't burnt. Also he needed some sort of face on the helm for interaction reasons since part of his honor code was to never remove his helm or armor in public.
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>>130519778
They fucked up Emerald Herald because they made her too similar to Maiden in Black while forcing you to go through her bad dialogue to get to the level up menu. Then Emerald Herald's scattered encounters through Drangleic Castle, Undead Crypt, Dragon Aerie and Throne of Want don't do anything to make her more enjoyable.

I wish Aldia could have been my level up friend instead
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>>130520017
Don't you mean "her" helm? Ohohoho
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>fighting vendrick
>4 giant souls
>he 1 shots me with pretty much any attack
>get him to last hit
>go for last hit
>shitty controls use bash instead
>he 1 shots me as i hit him at the same time
>we both die at the same time
>i have to redo the entire boss fight

Well played From
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>>130520329
>i panicked and hit the wrong button
or
>i use a shitty, broken controller
both on you, my man
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>>130520329
Yeah that's pretty scummy. Thank god Bloodborne doesn't have that for the most part
>>
>>130520329
>>130520492
WOW, I DIDN"T EVEN DO ANYTHING. I DIDN'T MEAN TO ROLL BUT HE ROLLED WITHOUT ME EVEN TELLING HIM TO OH MY GAHD
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>>130520575
DSP is based
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>>130520492
>>130520575
I just made the TERRIBLE mistake of moving toward my target and attacking at the same time, I know, I'm completely stupid and awful, who would EVER think that moving closer to their target when attacking is a good idea? What a moron.
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>Mfw I thought Red Iron Twinblade was one of Vengarl's weapons until I remembered that his weapons are named Red Rust instead of Red Iron

I like to think he would use this twinblade though
>>
>Ratbroing as a caster
>One shotting people as they climb the fatal ladder

I almost feel bad.
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>>130520695
I PRESSED THE BUTTON AND HE DIDN'T DO WHAT I WANTED HIM TO. I WANT HIM TO ROLL AND HE DOESN'T ROLL. I DIDN'T EVEN POINT THAT WAY. PERFECT GAME BALANCE UHUHUHUHU
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>>130520828
What SM are you? I though Rat cov was dead.
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>>130520575
to be honest, in 4 different instances my character has decided to roll with my thumb being nowhere near the spacebar. 2 of these it has killed me (once fell off rickert's stair and once fell off the top of upper-lower burg ladder). sometimes it will also not block or parry, but that has only happened in pvp. the weird with that is that i wasn't in staggered animation, although i was being hit both time that happened. probably output rather than input problem
>>130520695
guardbreak? i can't get it to work ever with mouse controls but ever so often i'll be attacking and moving around an i will guardbreak nothing. i haven't found a reliable way to play ds2 with KB+M, although i can play ds1 just fine with just KB
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>>130520915
I've had three invasions in the past hour.

2 of them were the same guy, though.

Right now it's 1.7m but I'm not wearing Agape.
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>>130521126
As I was typing this, guy number three invaded and died to the toxic rats

Ahahahaha
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So, when is the next time super best faggots going to stream so we can wait to not invade again?
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What are fun weapons that can be obtained before Drangleic Castle? Not counting Crypt Blacksword since I already did a build with that
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>>130521241
Ratfags: No sense of right and wrong.
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>>130521371
You can get the Drakekeeper's Greataxe and the Black Knight weapons from the kobolds outside of Aldia or in Things Betwixt.
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>>130521384
Third time I've fought this guy

He keeps changing his build every time he shows up
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>>130521371
Drakeblood GS
Claws/Manikin Claws
Possessed Armor Sword
Vanquisher's Seal/Caestus
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>>130521576
It hasn't done him much good

Oh, and nothing in here is acsetic buffed.
I'm too lazy to fight the Authority several times
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>>130520567
yeah that happened to me on Rom. I killed him at the same time I got combo'd to death by leaping spiders. thank god it counted as a kill even if I could't find my bloodstain when I jumped back down there.
>>
For DaS1, does anyone have the SL chart/list for typical levels for multiplayer?
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>>130521371
Literally and DLC weapon, if you wanna run through one of them first
Ivory king UGS is cool looking and cheeses everything
Smelter Hammer does massive damage to bosses it's ridiculous
And puzzling stone sword is just unique
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Which powerstance comes out with two Burger King axes? Halberd or Greataxe?
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>>130521787
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>>130521384
they're just protecting the area, man
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>>130521967
Thank you
>>
test
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I thought this setup was dead!
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NEW THREAD
>>130522093
>>130522093
>>130522093
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>>130521786
It probably got taken by of the romlings. Or it glitched into student hall
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>>130522175
Well, it may not have been before, but it is now!

He did eat 2 soul spears instead of one, though.
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>>130518912
this>>130518971
a million times this>>130518971


why from? why does he have a baby face helmet?
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>Sir Alonne must be fought after Fume Knight
>Sir Alonne is much, much easier than Fume Knight
>hell, the run through the memory plus the bossfight is easier than Fume

Did this seem a bit weird to anyone else? Fume has the switchup combos, absolute bullshit range with the UGS, and the special AI designed to fuck healing. Alonne has a grab attack that buffs his sword and some bleeding damage that should never be an issue, as you'll be dead from real damage long before it procs.
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