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Fucking thread died edition

>Can the game be considered a full release?
No, for all intents and purposes, KSP should be considered still in early access state. The game is nowhere near being able to stand on its own legs both from a gameplay perspective (career mode is definitely not ready and balanced) and a stability perspective. There are still major bugs and memory leaks that shouldn't exist on a finished game.

>Are there big issues with the game?
Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta. Ask in thread for details.

>What are the devs doing?
Modified versions of popular mods are being included in the stock game while the game engine is being upgraded to its latest version. The next major update (1.1) is supposedly going to bring a complete overhaul of the GUI, be 64bit friendly, have a refined physics/heating/aero model and generally perform better. An external team with heavily questionable experience (Flying Tiger Entertainment) is being tasked with porting the game to PS4, XboxOne and Wii U. They seem to be rushing for an imminent deadline and they are also working on a version of the game that will be obsolete in a few weeks/months.

>Should I buy the game?
KSP is very enjoyable at first, then it usually needs to be modded to retain some sort of longevity, but doing so may dramatically increase the instability of the game. You will be very familiar with the word "Oops!". The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics. The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you should torrent the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.

>What can I do to turn the tables ?
Write your critique and feedbacks into the /KSPG/ official collaborative document. See: ow.ly (slash) WrnTt
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Previous thread: >>128140838

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KjK0iUIcVY

Dev Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEV7agSLhr0

/kspg/'s (outdated) modlist and FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/vrFCBFYk

NEW MODLIST. Old FAQ is still retained above.
http://pastebin.com/vM6CE7YJ

>Game site
http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>KSP mods
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/34-add-on-releases/
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/36-add-on-development/
http://kerbalstuff.com/

>Flags
http://imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0

>Party-approved rendezvous and docking tutorials
http://imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
http://i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg

>Some useful calculators
http://alterbaron.github.io/ksp_aerocalc/
http://ksp.olex.biz/

>Official forum
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
http://pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY

>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>List of IRL launches.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

>View from the ISS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/

>Race Into Space
http://www.raceintospace.org

>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz+Aldrins+Race+into+Space.html

BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Take On Mars, Project CARS, ULA posting, TRUMP 2016, and planes are also welcome ITT. Schizophrenic mentally unstable attention whores are not.

Reminder to not talk about attention whores. Do not reply to their posts, even if you want to insult them, do not reply to people talking about them, do not ask who they are, filter their tripcodes, do not acknowledge their presence in any way, and assume every mention of them is their own attempt at gathering attention.
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>>128728748
first for anon has a crush on the attention whore because he brings him up every thread, and because anon is being such an attention whore himself, daring to rewrite the OP and all, I'm just gonna go ahead and out that he is our resident baneposter RobotsAndSpaceships
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/kspg/ 2016 is going to be better than ever, right you guys?
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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ADDING ALL THAT SHIT INTO THE OP ARE YOU MENTALLY CHALLENGED DO YOU ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE A DISCLAIMER ABOUT WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE LIKE NEXT WEEK OR PERHAPS IF MRS JOHNSON LIKES A LITTLE CREAM WITH HER MERINGUE PIE?
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>>128730182
Sorry, I'll remove it for the next thread
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>>128729205
>/kspg/ still remembers me
:^)

I have tried to steer clear of the OP edits drama, for you, of course.
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>>128730365
SORRY? You sad son of a bitch. I hope you fucking reflect the impact your lack of care and attention has had on this general and strongly consider suicide as a viable solution to all of your problems. Also see
>>128730402
FUCK YOU RobotsAndSpaceships you are the cancer that is killing this thread.
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>>128730635
You're the only person upset by my changes, and you're the only one being affected by my "lack of care and attention" by telling you to fuck off, as the entire general has told you multiple times. Besides, the attention-whore disclaimer doesn't even explicitly mention you, so your response is completely unwarranted and proves how fucking immature you are.

Fuck you MAN. You've singlehandedly managed to bring back the janitor and ruin any form of comfy discussion in /kspg/.
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>>128730947
Your paranoia is singlehanded destroying any comfy right now, you think I'm some guy who hasn't posted in a week? Anon please this is just sad. You need to take your meds, hug your mother and get a cat.
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>>128731095
>Your paranoia is singlehanded destroying any comfy right now
You're the one who started this entire argument about a line of text in the OP
>you think I'm some guy who hasn't posted in a week
Not at all. I'm just using it to refer to you since you have many qualities that you and he both share. Besides, if you think about it, there's no reason to say this unless you're MAN himself.

Now, how about you accept the fact that you're wrong and stop fucking ruining the general and letting it be comfy for once? If a line of text in the OP that doesn't even refer to you bothers you that much, then just ignore it, or politely request it to be removed. I've already stated that I'm removing it for the next thread anyway.
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>>83849523
>being this mad about replying to old posts
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>>128732317
>replying to 1 year and 88 day old posts
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>>128729205
>>128730635
What do you have against RobotsAndSpaceships anyway? He seems like a pretty cool guy.
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>>128732837
Stop memeing lad.

I told you guys, I've stayed out of the OP drama.
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Cat dick
Don't forget the cat dick

Please
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Post comfy music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=963Tt7CEt2s&ab_channel=downtemporo
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>>128733542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4aK-YsPeU
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>>128733542
>>128734128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spx0NthRoVc
based bernard
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Will hooj ever come back?
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This will be a comfy thread, right?

>>128733542
Okay!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgQxoBFbt08
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Why do you keep making new threads? This general is already dead, let it die.
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>>128737362
Not for me. I still want to talk about KSP. LOL
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>>128736463
hi Hooj.
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hello my white friends
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>>128729365
Sure!
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Uh oh..looks like someone needs to be reminded how to spot and deal with attention whores

the Ultimate AttentionWhore Spotting Chart©.

With this handy checklist you can easily judge for yourself if any post has been made by someone in desperate need for attention.
Just pick a post, grab this chart and see if someone is unironically using any of the following subjects.

Spotting attention whores has never been easier with the Ultimate AttentionWhore Spotting Chart©, you can now ignore them harder than ever!

List of common arguments and topics used by AWs:
- general consensus
- burning squadcast
- obsession with maxmaps
- narrative
- extreme analism about single words in the OP
- anything about New York
- /kspg/ 2016
- false paradigms (usually related to KSP career/sandbox mode)
- cringy memes invented on the spot like spiders or the letter "a"
- being mad about list of things attention whores say

Attention whores may not be so obvious to spot though, but they become easy targets when criticised. The following is a list of common responses used by attention whores when they run out of arguments:

- everyone is suddenly a shill (euroshill, purchaseshill, squadshill and many more)
- unrelated arguments and responses used to shift the attention away from the questions they don't know how to answer
- everyone is a "negative nothing adder"
- invites to hug ones mother
- invites to check ones blood vessels
- everyone is suddenly a single entity usually called "angry Anon" or "angry janon" or simply a janitor, the attention whore can't accept that more than one person is calling him out
- heavy use of strawman arguments


If ANY of these apply to the post you are reading, congratulations! You found an attention whore! Refer to the bottom part of this post >>128728748 for detailed instructions about the common procedures to follow when faced with AWs.

Thank you for using the Ultimate AttentionWhore Spotting Chart© to make /kspg/ a better place.
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>>128744071
attention whores simply cannot refute this
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So... how about that ksp?
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>>128746876
kuso post
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I just wanted to bother you guys again with the doc.
Content has basically stopped since a couple of weeks and it looks like nobody has anything else to add.

So I was wondering if we can call it closed, erase the comments, put a decent layout and send it where it is supposed to be sent

What do you think?

Link
http://www.writeurl.com/text/bnvciyy22cn73zyqi0xw/bh5rn098dcndoqnddwv3/m3wr237l9wqh06oeuqd2
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well..thank you Mr shitter who deleted the doc

that's very mature
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>use a document hosting service that doesn't support content control
>get assblasted when someone vandalizes it
Should've used git :^))))
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Is he gone?
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>>128755352
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>>128747461
What the fuck?
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>>128757201
Vandalism, I don't have a copy of the doc here so I am just waiting for someone to put everything back on again
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ded
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>>128757521
what a faggot. I hope someone saved it
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Kerbal Space Program has been developed within a false paradigm for the past two years.
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>>128766237
"Kerbal Space Program was a mistake." - Maxmaps, Summer 2015
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So, im playing with remote tech, and my longest-range antenna is barely reaching Dres.

Is it possible to launch a probe to Jool, with a delayed Scientific reports to be made automatically in flight computer (that calculator-like thingie in top left corner) with the delay being 2 years?
Will it stay there if i play with other probes and spacecrafts? I plan to send a probe on fly-by by jool, pass in front of it, so probe returns into range of KSC.
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>>128767896
>career
get out norman
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>>128767896
Just send a chain of relays after it.
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>>128767967
line 'em up boys
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>>128767896
Playing science, not career, im not a madman.
Science gives a tiny bit of challenge and i like that.

>>128767995
But that's not fun. Im kinda roleplaying space race because of my autism and sending ships with two different flags and was thinking that one side turns the tide with this flyby manuever.
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>>128768050
i don't even know what this forced meme is supposed to mean. i feel like you're a performance artist or something.

are you seriously defending >career you faggot?
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>>128768292
Just what? KSP general isnt about ksp? I mean i understand lately it turned into celebrity-trivia general but come on.
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>>128768314
we line up the career players and we execute them
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>>128768292
>people unironically say this
>ksp is not allowed in /kspg/ comes back
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>>128768463
Is science allowed?
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>>128768389
hello newfag, /kspg/ has been a comfy shitposter club for years. it has nothing to do with the game.

>>128768463
oh ok i misinterpreted your post
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>>128768565
>>128768586
As you both should be you fucking faggots.
Do you seriously take more fun in giving a damn about what or who devs are instead of playing video games?
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>>128768672
after year four of this scam garbage I just want everything to burn
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>>128768389
Please ignore the autists.
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>>128768774
Who cares? If you cant have what you like, you like what you have.
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>>128768586
KSP is welcome here, as long as you don't spam boring images. Saying it is fun or praising the devs is not.
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>>128768854
Well fine, do you play remote tech maybe? Did you experiment with delay of commands ?
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>>128768865
>like what you have
What I have is a buggy proof of concept that was never rounded out into a complete game, creating a frankengaming experience with no inherent meaning, and before you can create your own with mods and heavy ignorance, it crashes, corrupts itself, locks the game save and ultimately destroys the universe within the game forcing me to start a brand new install.

also this
>>128769079
it's just our "black" friend.
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>>128769156
I bet you wake up saying i hate my life too.
I agree that devs fucked up and are lazy wetbacks doing fuck all, but we got this and im trying to enjoy it as there is no second game like it, buggy or not.
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>>128768989
>remote tech
remote tech is literally hardcore
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>>128769308
i know, but it seems fun
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>>128769308
Last time I played it it was just full of bugs and killed any performance left. Always had a yellow clock.
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>>128768989
Last I played with RT was .19 so I don't really remember and the guy in charge now is retarded so I wouldn't expect anything that can break to not break.
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>>128769487
Last time I played it I had a full system of satellites in play with a long term communication link with a probe which drops multiple probes (4 I think) and I just couldn't program a decent descent onto whatever planet I was trying to land on. Just Terrible.
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>>128769625
But i been playing KSP since when there were green-blue apoaps and periaps, and there was just the Mun and no planets. And when i got bored of the game i stopped playing it to come back later like a week ago and i keep coming back enjoying the shit out of the game doing something new every time.

Not everyone has to be such a negative nihilist like you mang.
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>>128769973
Well like other anon said it's harcore. Either send manned missions, manned stations so as to reduce the delay or kOS.
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>>128770459
Don't be surprised when you find out the game really hasn't been expanded much beyond that after 4 years.

One of which they spent on Valentina Kerman, and still got like 8 things wrong with her
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>>128770750
Oh i know it all alright, i follow the updates.
I know fuck all is added and i accepted the fact game isnt going anywhere like a year ago.

And you know what? Im content. I dont care anymore, i just treat ksp as abandoned game that is playable anyway and its still fun, despite wasted potential.
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>>128769973
>couldn't
git gud
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>>128770898
>I bought an ice cream in the part from a Mexican
>He said to wait a few minutes because they were still cooling
>handed me a glass of milk and a cup of sugar
>calls me entitled when I ask where my ice cream is

Reminder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misselling is a real concept our mexicans are guilty of and they have literally tens of millions of dollars in early access funding sitting in a bank in the netherlands

So just what are you feeling so contented about?
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>>128769270
Poor, sweet, innocent newness.

Enjoy these days when you still can't see beyond the horizon. Soon you'll begin to see the same thing everywhere, and with the variety, the love will fall out of your heart.

Like a needle dripping with heroin you'll main line mods to bring just a little piece of that feeling back.

Until you start to use that vein too much and it becomes infected.

And you lose it all, because you let yourself fall in love with something made by a Mexican, and you had to deal with the consequences.

We've all been where you are
Run while you still can
You'll be hateposting with us in just a few months

anyone want to clue me in on which rule this is breaking? I can add some rule breaking content into it if someone would like a justification to continue deleting it
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>>128772642
So you should throw the glass of milk on the floor, shit on the sugar and start crying like a fucking baby?
We cant do shit, but enjoy what we have. That's what im doing. I know that's not what i payed for but what the fuck should i do? Sue them?
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>>128773248
i just want to fly my spacecrafts and have my space colonies.
i dont care about your fucking fight against the system or whether mexicans stole 6 euros from me 2 years ago when i bought ksp.
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>>128773601
What are you even talking about.
I came to a thread about video game and would like to talk about that game.
If you aren't talking about said game or games tied to the general you are going offtopic and are pretty much spam (unwanted messages) to avoid.
Go to mexico and bomb squad instead of clogging up the thread or make squad general or something.
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>>128772907
I just wish attention whoring was a deletable offense
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>>128774042
Forums are full of casuals and 'fans' choking on squad dick.
Reddit is mechplebbers den.
This place used to be perfect, wtf happened.
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>>128774042
Yeah sure
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>>128774162
People started being autistic about off-topic shit getting pruned. Just post about the game, holy shit.
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>>128772976
No, instead we tell others to avoid buying from that ice cream stand, and we hold the stand owner accountable for everything they've been dishonest about.
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And we're off to another annihilated thread.

:^)

Great job angriyanon
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Anybody have any good suggestions for any plane parts packs that are more or less stockalike? I'm getting back into making plens, but the number of parts just aren't satisfying my autism.
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>>128774559
http://www.curse.com/search/ksp-mods?game-slug=kerbal&search=uninstall.exe
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>>128774657
>linking to curse
>literally linking to malware
No.
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>>128774750
The meme is 2deep4u
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>>128774373
The issue here is you're making the claim that Squadcast sold you a cup of milk when you asked for icecream, instead of the reality, which was a cone of ice cream that was fucking awful. They made the game and released it in the state they so chose, and if you deem the game in an early access state (which I would presume most people here do, given the OP) then you as the customer are responsible for choosing whether or not you are willing to pay for it given your expectations.

If you don't like KSP, don't play it and leave. You shouldn't just pointlessly torment yourself by obsessing over something you've stated you dislike, it's unhealthy.
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>>128774259
fine, here, rate my helo-copter. It can land on water, traverse air and land. Currently one is en route to Eve.
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>>128774973
Bretty good. How many prototypes did it take to get a working model?
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>>128775062
I bet his first proof of concept worked good enough and he just went with it and launched a version without proper testing :^)
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>>128775062
I had to swithc positions of the engines multiple times to get the perfect balance between center of mass and center of thrust, now it barely tilts to the back, so it isn't so bad.
But other than that, it's on first try. It's not the most manueverable vehicle there is but i could land on VAB and fly around relatively easy.
Forgot to add it has buyoancy floatable air-filled baloons on the bottom to float.
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>>128772642
Sue them

Oh wait, you won't, because you are full of shit
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>>128775379
Class action lawsuit? Not a bad idea †bh
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>>128775553
Do it fagit
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>>128775553
>>128775379
It's a suit you'd lose because Early Access makes clear that the game is not necessarily going to complete all features claimed and Squadcast is not liable to you because of it. You gave them money for a beta and that's what you got; the issue is they decided to be a shitter and never truly move from beta. Now you know, so avoid them in the future.
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>>128774969
I should have said this before - I'm not exactly for or against Burning Squadcast or anything like that, and I'm not the guy you were talking to before - I'm speaking more in general terms - just that we should dissuade anybody from buying the game, and make Squad's nonsense public.

Asking "hard questions" in a moderated chat would hardly do that.
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>>128775753
Liability disclaimers are boilerplates. While they may impact litigation, they do not entirely preclude it.

So Ford decides to make a new car factory where you can put any piece from any other car on your base model, but you have to sign a waiver saying you won't sue if you die as a result of driving the car. This doesn't make Ford automatically not liable for offering a dangerous product.

This is their take at Early Access games, which is a very new model of production so they don't really have any generalized standard to look into. They claim they are deeply thankful to everyone who is willing to follow us in them in this adventure, but that does not mean they can sell water as a cure for cancer.

The notion that in order to opt-in you strip yourself of all rights as a consumer is ludicrous and deserves to be challenged in open court.
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>>128776184
So then if you believe a case can be made, go forth and set precedent. The issue is I don't think you have a chance at winning, especially given the general public perception of Squadcast and the aforementioned millions of early access dollars.
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>>128775753
Here's the thing though - one can instead raise a mis-selling claim over the fact that they misrepresented their development capabilities multiple times (having members of the development team that had long since left on the active employees page, having members of the team working on a separate commercial property while claiming they were a full-time member of the core team.)

>>128776184
To add to this, their paid staff members worked on another commercial property while accepting money for those staff members to work on KSP - that goes against most definitions of what early access funding is for, which can be used to raise a breach of contract suit, in addition to their continued usage of false advertising of available content.
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>>128776404
Squad made their own bed by courting the Minecraft audience, as has been demonstrated on multiple occasions (Barn, etc.) the fanbase can be manipulated to suddenly hate squad when fed the proper narrative from the right perspective.

It's frankly an intruiguing idea and one I'll probably bring up a lot in the coming days, particularly if someone tries to shape it to be suffocatingly on topic in here.
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Guys, do you remember the 0.18/19 hype?
>docking
>reentry effects
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>>128776621
I remember a building sense of growth that mirrored the apollo program's sense of reaching for the stars.

Then I remember resources.

Then nothing.

Then 4chan killed the one who added nothing.

And now it's /2016/ and we have blank slate and a new producer to start over with.
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>tfw you will never win the powerball and buy KSP from squad and give it to baccy as a valentine's day present
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>>128776992
>not throwing money at aerokinetics
dude
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>>128777289
http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3062.0
Now I'm depressed again
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God I hate posting ontopic but are there any mods that let you view a flight from multiple angles at once and record them?
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>>128777849
I assume you're playing with kOS, because frankly all patricians do. Just get Hullcam VDS and repeat the launch several times. No one will notice.
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>>128733542
The comfiest music to ever be comfy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SJF8hvf4Os
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>>128778008
eerrm no thanks I'll just not make webmaster
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>>128778960
webm*
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>>128776184
Except Ford is forced to build vehicles that comply with a shitload of regulations and pass a series of inspections before being able to sell them.
so this example is stupid because such a contract implies something illegal on their part (selling a vehicle that may result in injuries of the driver because of possible defects that violate manufacturing standards and regulations) and couldn't be signed in the first place. they simply can't even propose to their customers such a contract.

The difference is that Squad, or any other developer, is not forced to comply with any regulation (except maybe making sure the game doesn't set your computer on fire) nor they explicitly promised that every planned feature would make it into the game, so again, your example doesn't make any sense.

I'd love to see you trying to sue them, but the fact alone that this idea won't ever make it out of kspg is proof enough that there is no case to be made.
try posting this on reddit, you will probably find someone more competent than us at explaining why you have no chance at succeeding.
that is...assuming you will get your ass out of your chair and do something other than being a keyboard warrior
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>>128781498
I've only read the first two paragraphs so far but are you aware what Turkey has spent the past month doing?

>the fact alone that this idea won't ever make it out of kspg
That looks like a negative nothing add, no reason to read further.

/kspg/ is strong. /kspg/ is forever.
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>>128781712
>only read the first two paragraphs
>quotes something at the end
>not a single answer to any of the points made

it's ok if you don't know how to have a discussion, just stop instead of regurgitating your memes
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>>128781985
It's good to know angry _anon is back.

I read the last part after I wrote my first two paragraphs
Turkey is dealing with console regulations Max didn't even look at when he signed the deals, much less warn Harv of

>Squad is not forced to comply with any regulation (except maybe making sure the game doesn't set your computer on fire)
I wouldn't exactly say they get a "pass" in that department.

There are basic standards of quality one expects from a ready for 1.0 "game" -- stability, consistency, maturity, KSP has none of those things.

The fact that it is called "Kerbal Space PROGRAM" is false advertising. You cannot conduct a meaningful program for any amount of time and the act of even trying is a sisyphean as getting the previous thread to 750 posts
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Space is fun
Kerbal is fun
Squad is fun
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>>128783121
>Squad is fun
Oh come on snek
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>>128782406
>There are basic standards of quality one expects from a ready for 1.0 "game" -- stability, consistency, maturity, KSP has none of those things.
>The fact that it is called "Kerbal Space PROGRAM" is false advertising. You cannot conduct a meaningful program for any amount of time and the act of even trying is a sisyphean as getting the previous thread to 750 posts

why don't you sue them then?
do you have any official source stating the existence of said "basic standards"? can you prove beyond any reasonable doubt that KSP violates any of those standards, assuming you manage to find them? do you have any way of proving this with repeatable experiments and turn the concepts of stability, consistency and maturity into numbers? Can you provide the definition of program and show the game doesn't fulfill it with anything that is not a subjective opinion of yours?
because, you know, for every angry person like you there are thousands of enthusiastic players that are ready to swear that the game is stable, consistent and mature enough to be called 1.0
It's your word against their and nothing else.

with this I don't want to say I am defending the game or the way the developers work so you don't scream shill at me, I'm just saying that you keep stating this is false advertising, but you never lift a finger to do something about it.
if you think you have a case, go ahead and sue them, there is a ton of money to be made if you succeed.
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>>128783195
Space is fun
Kerbal is fun
Squad is fun
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp-b4Ce4Mf4
Woah
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>>128783270
A lawsuit's only successful outcome is killing the enterprise, which is not my intention. It can still be saved, once the developers understand they are developing a false paradigm.
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>>128783807
>not my intention

>>128776184
>The notion that in order to opt-in you strip yourself of all rights as a consumer is ludicrous and deserves to be challenged in open court.

you are either backpedaling on your ideas or you are simply trying to hide the fact that there is absolutely no case to be made and you have no chance at undermining said enterprise even if you wanted.

is it not your intention? cool, but can you prove anything I said in my previous post? because you know, that is like 1% of the questions that are going to be asked you if you ever try to sue anybody for the same reason.

I'll spare you the effort: you can't. there is no case, you have no possibility whatsoever of winning even if you really wanted to destroy squad.
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>>128784271
What's so haram about the notion that the developers have been flaccidly swaying in the wind between sandbox and career and it's time for a new way of thinking? Please provide scientific sources, bigfoot citations are acceptable.
>>
guys, why can't i write anything in the doc?
i was trying to copy the doc back but i can't do anything apparently
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>>128784516
Am I understanding your post wrong or are you really asking me to prove something?
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>>128784562
Probably was set to read only due to vandalism.
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>>128784562
/doc/ is kill, I move that discussion temporarily relocate here, all anons interested in saving discussions should pastebin them and link here or post summaries.

I'm okay with losing my section as it currently stands.
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>>128784974
Seconded
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>>128784967
you need a dfferent link for it to be read only.
i can still write the title, but nothing under that.

>>128784974
i have the last pastebin made last monday after the deletions, nothing has changed since then (i think)
http://pastebin.com/vvbar5zW
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Squad is fun
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>>128785343
Air is fun
Boeing is fun
Mods are fun
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>>128785593
>props
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>>128785805
why would anyone fund suicide prevention?
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Can you imagine quitting your job to play a game?
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>>128733542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zyg7BtOX-Q

>>128778194
>6:33
just fuck my ears up
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>post yfw you're on a deep space mission and there's no abort procedure
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Is there any way to install 64-bit on windows without downloading the unity engine?
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>>128785721
Fucking excuse me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRrMlW6ibt8
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>>128787180

Upload the files I need pls. I guess it is all the dlls + the exe?
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>>128787160
>props
>in a game about space
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>>128787563
And?
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>>128788312
STOP
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>>128788312
>reaching space with props

literally cheating
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>>128787563

Props are good for any planet with an atmosphere.
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>>128788563
>>128788640
Actually, there's still some air in space, so the props work perfectly fine
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>>128788982

Could you fucking not?
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>>128789416
Huh?

Anyways, why do people even use jets or rockets if they can just use props, the power of gods, and save tons of fuel and money in the process? Why didn't we just use B-29s to land on the moon?
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>>128789691
DELETE THIS

REEEEEEEE
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>>128788982
>>128789691
>cheating this much
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>SpaceX soon
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reminder this is /kspg//2016/

and Angry Janon thinks he can take that away from you
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>>128790938

>spaceX landing on my birthday
>getting a 6" telescope on my birthday

Feels good, mang.
>>
Ok, how the fuck am I supposed to use the new resource system? Is there any way to create a map of exactly where everything is?
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>>128793648
thank you for referring to it properly. Blame the faggot in charge for the fact that there's no official documentation. Use this.

https://github.com/S-C-A-N/SCANsat/wiki/Stock-Resource-Scanning
>>
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/130041-mediafire-links-removed/
What
>>
gentle bump
>>
I got drunk.
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>>128798974
are cannae drives still garbage physics?
>>
>>128800425

I suppose you meant resonant cavity thrusters?

First of all, do not refer to anything that comes from a reputable source as "garbage." That is not good science. If a source produces results that they cannot explain, that just means the phenomena behind the results hasn't been figured out. They could have made a mistake, or maybe there just may be unexplained shit. Either way the field of physics benefits. I think the older physicists dismiss it as nonsense since they think the current laws are set in stone, but younger physicists (like me) tend to think it is something we do not know.

As far as I know the engine does produce thrust. What makes the drive so confusing is that it appears to break Newton's third law. Perhaps we are measuring the force from the drive wrong, or perhaps there is something happening that we do not know. That is the exciting thing about science, you gotta figure out what the fuck is going on.

As far as I know no one has determined why it works, or why the experiment is an error yet. I could search a few academic databases right now but I'm too drunk to read research papers right now.
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Who's the faggot who fucked up with the doc ? The only thing I can read is "WHY THE FUCK I CAN'T WRITE ANYMORE? I CAN'T TYPE ANYTHING BELOW THE TITLE"
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>>128803585
Probably MAN tbĐ½
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>>128803585
I wrote that after it was vandalized and I tried to put everything back on again.
I can't type anything that is not in the title box.

does it do the same to you? and if not, can you copy the doc back as it was using this patebin >>128785238?

I don't know if it's just a problem that I have or if everyone can't write anything anymore
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>>128804083
Apparently the doc goes back to normal when you press F5 but it goes wrong again with all blank and your pissing sentence after 30s. I don't know why. I've managed to save it just in case but we need to fix this shit first.
>>
Good fucking riddance
That doc was the biggest piece of cancer /kspg/'s endured since Scibot
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>>128804659
It does the same to me with my phone, looks like it goes back to the first chached version you have in your browser, then it updates it with the current one, which is blank because of vandalism.

I only had the pastebin link, but not the actual word file saved on my pc, if you have a recent one (made after last monday), would you be so kind to screenshot the whole document so I can format it as it was before?
I can't remember everything and pastebin doesn't save highlights and shit so I am having an hard time restoring everything as it was
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>>128805102
MAN pls.
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>>128804072
>>128805238
If you're so eager to talk to me I can shitpost and trip.

Bring me up again if that's what you want.
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>>128806596
not him, but i suppose you have a recent copy of the doc, can you please screenshot it so I can see where the comments are and how stuff is formatted?
I'm working on it but I can't remember everything
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>>128806596
ok MAN
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>>128806803
You're both wrong. I didn't have anything to do with the administration and didn't delete the entire thing. I had my one section I kind of stopped maintaining but have continued to develop on the thread.

>>128806886
Yes, hullo. Would you like to shitpost anon?
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>>128805238
But I'm catfucker
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>>128807038
>You're both wrong. I didn't have anything to do with the administration and didn't delete the entire thing. I had my one section I kind of stopped maintaining but have continued to develop on the thread.

did you even fucking read what I asked?
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>>128805167
That should do it. Tell me if you need me to upload the .doc file.

>>128807086
beware of the janitor's eye
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>>128807303
i dont have a copy
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>>128807346
thanks m8, i think this is enough
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>>128807346

no wait, actually I need the gamasutra link please, it has been lost while copying everything to pastebin
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>>128807303
He's paranoid that we'll find out that he deleted the doc
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>>128807691
ok I've found two links and the imgur image pic related:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/entries/747-The-Making-Of-New-KSC

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/ArtyomZuev/20130731/197365/Environment_art_and_modeling_in_Kerbal_Space_Program.php
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>>128808260
Whoever did this is a shilling faggot.
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>>128808805
thanks
ok you fuckers, I restored the doc on another link, which is read only to keep vandalism away.

I can't write anything anymore on the original doc link for some weird fucking reason, if some of you still can, please copy everything back from my link in the original link so people can still edit it, or make a new link or whatever.

this is the read only link

http://www.writeurl.com/text/kspg/readonly

if someone wants to double check with me if everything is in there, be my guest.

keep this link as an added safety in case someone vandalizes everything again or make your own copy and create a new read only link.
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>>128808957
agree

>>128808260
mention me again so I have another reason to trip
>>
someone post the barn
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>>128809528
Oh shit, he actually tripped! The absolute madman!
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>>128809337
I can't type anything below that bloody title bar. What do we do ?
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>>128809528
so let me just get this right: do you still want to keep your very incomplete section of the doc or can I flag it for deletion it if you don't want to update it anymore? I don't want to vandalize your stuff, just to understand if you intend to fix your section or not

>>128809769
make a new doc, copy everything in there and share the new link (the full one, not the read only), we will use that one and scrap the current one that seems to be bugged
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>>128810134
>make a new doc
did someone say google doc
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>>128809528
Good idea, let's have a trip party!
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>>128810434
someone was opposed to it because of privacy.
I didn't have any problem with this one desu, it's very bugged when there is more than one person writing at the same time, but it works fine the rest of the time.
>>
>>128810434
>>128810627
How about we just use http://htwins.net/edit/kspg
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>>128811404
who are Cary & Michael Huang and why should we trust them and their apps ?
>>
for anyone interested, you can make your own writeurl links without using the longass auto-generated ones.

the new link has to be made like this
>http://www.writeurl.com/text/[insert an id here]/[insert your read-only password here]/[insert your write password here]/new

you have to remove everything in the brackets (incvluding the brackets) and replace it with whatever you want as long as it is at least 3 characters long.
the /new tag is used only to create a new link, so it will disappear once you created one and should never be used again with already existing links.

in the case of the link I made:
http://www.writeurl.com/text/kspg/readonly

-"kspg" is the id
-"readonly" is the read-only password
the write password is hidden in this case for obvious reasons, but you can use whatever you want.
>>128811404
the problem is the current doc is formatted for writeurl, with all the highlights and shit, if you can make an exact copy of the doc on that site without taking forever, then I'm ok with that, but i guess we are kinda committed to writeurl now that the doc has been edited to hell and back.
if we have to use a random site, we might aswell stick with writeurl or just go with google docs
>>
there you go fags, delete the old link and use this new one

http://www.writeurl.com/text/kayesspeegee/read/write

this is editable so use it as you did before.
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>>128814457
just a note:
when you copy something from one doc to the other (say it has been vandalized again and you want to paste it back from another doc link), it loses all the bolding, underlining and listing commands, so you have to bold, underline and put list marks manually.

Also, headings are converted to normal text, so a 16 size text with heading H5 is converted to a 21.1 text with no heading. It actually looks the same so it's not that big of a deal, but it screws with lines spacing and other subtle shit so you should revert those to headings too if you can.

everything else (highlights, general layout, etc) is copied flawlessly
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>>128814457
>>128811907
>>128809337
>>128807346

nice job anons
>>
1-3 burger and shake gba
4-6 chinese
7-9 sushi (again)
0 wildcard
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>>128815564
it would be nice if someone had something else to add to the doc, it has been lacking new content lately.

and about that, if this faggot over here >>128809528 had the brainpower to reply to this very simple fucking question >>128810134 without sperging about god knows what, I could try and tidy up the doc
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>>128819050
Lame
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>tfw when you go to play ksp but you miss and derive numerical integration methods for simulating orbiting bodies instead
feels horrible mane
>>
1.1 could ship with a complimentary goldplated dildo and it still wouldn't be worth this wait.
>>
>>128821974

I would rather not have a dildo.
>>
odds play ksp
evens chug bottle of nyquil
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>>128828543
that's too bad a little lean would go a lot further
>>
>tfw no qt radial engine gf to cuddle with and fall asleep to the sound of her purr
>>
>>128831506
My fucking eyes
>>
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/129607-105-gravityturn-version-121-automated-efficient-launches
Is this cheating?
>>
>>128836230
Yes
Looks super useful for RSS though
>>
boop
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>that one time Ivan thought he was going to get sued/cartel'd for running NDA'd expermental files
>>
>last month all newspapers were printing stories about how excellent immigrants are and how culturally enriched we're becoming and how awful the government is for closing the borders
>women get raped during the new year's festivals
>a police cover up about raped women at a music festival is revealed
>now all newspapers are opposing the immigration and printing stories about how awful the government is for taking so long to close the borders
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ded
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This is pretty comfy
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>>128849654
Holy shit

G-g-guys?
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>>128849879
This is an unedited screenshot. All I did ingame was use planetshine to decrease the ambient brightness. Holy fuck.
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>>128850282
If only the stock atmo shader was this semi-decent all the time
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>>128851065
And the game crashed.

Well, goodnight /kspg/
>>
ded
>>
>>128814457
Thanks again to the faggot that deletes the doc every time
>>
>>128857141
that would be angry anon
>>
>>128858695
Not everybody is angry anon, Anon.
Angry anon was the faggot who started report spamming everything in here after 1.0 came out and went on a crusade against off topic discussion.

I don't think this situation applies to angry anon desu
>>
>>128859420
okay well it isnt me and i dont know who would consistently hate this group enough to do that besides maxmaps and him
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc&feature=youtu.be

still a better game than ksp
>>
>>128859598
It takes zero effort to delete some text, it could easily be your average master trole
>>
>>128860956
the consistency is the noteworthy aspect. very few people have a reason to genuinely hate this place.
>>
Happy Sunday /kspg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6LblwnoydA
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>>128862380
Well i was referring to the doc, it's so easy to erase everything that everybody in a trolling mood can do it, not just dedicated haters
>>
Alright, time to get dunkin. If you guys want anything better post in the next 5 minutes.
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>>128863839
give me a selection of stuff to choose
>>
>>128863839
oosh, just missed it
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>>128864170
>>128864336
she is making me a pork product
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>>128864590
Is the hijabi cute?
>>
>>128864590
>taking pictures of the backs of people
>>
>>128864772
they are not workers they are cogs in the American machine

>>128864652
no the other one is though, in a malnourished kind of eay
>>
>>128865149
>justifying taking pictures of the backs of "cogs"
>>
>>128865547
okay, it was wrong, I was wrong, and I'm very deeply sorry.
>>
>>128865597
Good boy
>>
>roughly 3 new versions a month for the past four years
>harddrive is a grotesque wasteland of forgotten versions, persistence saves, craft files and mods
>folder names range from optimistic anecdotes to angry outbursts to depressed chronological bookkeeping
>can't delete anything or I start losing access to past playthroughs
>none of it is really worth saving
>>
>>128867330
You what
>>
>>128867623
I want... to die.
>>
>>128867680
Then die already
>>
>>128867726
Why are you so angry
>>
>>128867776
I am not angry anon, I was just suggesting that if you want to die, you should die
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>>128867815
Okay

I didn't say you were angry anon.
>>
>>128867884
I forgot a comma, I wanted to say "I am not angry, anon"
>>
>>128867953
So what do you do for fun besides hanging out on mexican space proof-of-concept generals on japanese image boards on Sunday mornings urging people to commit suicide?
>>
>>128868058
I just finished lunch, I am chilling on the couch, I'll be going out later in the afternoon to buy some new clothes
>>
>>128868135
you sound like a basic bitch
>>
>>128868424
And?
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did you know Billies can be upgraded to War Billies?
>>
>Satch will never hide her shame from you as you desperately ask her if you should cut the red or the blue wire
>>
red page 10!
>>
This live event will begin in 3 hours
>>
>>128874426
Snekstream?
>>
>>128874426
>>128875684
1.1?

also how the fuck are the wheesley engines thrust reversing what am I supposed to mount it on? Does an air intake allow backflow?
>>
RED TEN
>>
>>128878352
GO AHEAD RED SIX, OVER
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>>128878773
>I'm going to cut across the axis and try and draw their fire.
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>>128875684
>>128875909
No
>>
>>128879416
link
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdKRJzl6y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkz_lclGXNg
>>
>>128879390
NEGATIVE RED SIX, NEGATIVE
DISENGAGE
OVER
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>>128881605
I can make gifs easier than webms so its tiny precious little gifs for now.

As an anti-ontopic poster myself I apologize in advance. Just want to spruce up the ded in here a bit.
>>
>>128881938
fuck it, even gifs aren't worth it. gonna play hw2
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>tfw watching Orphan
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holy fuck, check'em:

http://shitelonsays.com/
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r8
>>
>>128885879
>no FAR
>clipping orgy
1/10
>>
>>128885879
it's shit
>>
thirty seven minutes
>>
cancelled because of mist
>>
Kate Whatshername is cute! Cute!!
>>
BARGE IS CONFIRMED
>>
this guy looks like he just rolled out of bed
>>
GO
O
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Pure sex.
>>
Yay science!!
>>
>tfw by sheer luck your dog wakes you up just in time to watch the launch with /kspg/

based doggo

you will ride eternal, shiny and chrome
>>
>have to piss
>get up really quickly
>come back, put headphones on
>HOLD HOLD HOLD
FUC--
>it was just part of the go/no go poll
Thank fuck
>>
>>128885040
> I think NASA is actually doing a pretty good job overall.
fuckin elon
>>
>tfw no qt satchie gf
>>
DRONESHIP CAM CONFIRMED
>>
>>128890309
Never forget the Artyom 1 mission.
>>
>dat external cam

nice
>>
>>128890376
Elaborate
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das it mane
>>
is a prerequisite for having anything to do with a launch stream that you have to be severely mentally disabled?
>>
>>128890519
>he didn't participate in the most autistic hour of /kspg/

Also
>americans clapping for stage separation
>>
>>128890738
we'll clap for anything. we'll clap when you get pulled into secondary security.
>>
>>128890812
>tfw Satch will be taken away for two hours of questioning if she tries to enter the country
>>128890738
Got a screenshot or some shit? Archives dead
>>
what are the water hoses on the platform for? why are they firing out of the platform?
>>
>>128891080
Fire extinguishers.
>>
>>128890519
About a year ago, /kspg/ had it's own asteroid mission.
https://foolz.fireden.net/vg/thread/95185886/#95236128

While it looks like the links are dead now, originally the posts included SSTV images transmitted from our satellite that allowed us to see the asteroid.

Mission highlights include firing a Spurdo at an asteroid.
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>>128891080
prob because they expect a fire and why bother turning them on after the gasoline is on fire
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OF COURSE THE CAMERA LAGS WHEN IT'S ABOUT TO LAND
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>>128891320
>merely coincidence
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>>128891320
>implying it wasn't yet another failure
>implying musk isn't a shit
>implying spacex won't be bankrupt in a year
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AGHHHH

ELON WHY

YOU CAN LAND A ROCKET WITH PINPOINT ACCURACY

BUT YOU CAN'T GET A DECENT SIGNAL
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This is some pretty funky music while we sit here in suspense
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Did it land? Did the camera cut off?
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>>128891552
Why don't they just land on land? They're not that far from Cali.
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>>128892226
Probably didn't want to go through the hassle of getting FAA approval for it
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>>128892226
They didnt have the updated environmental impact studies for vandenburg, nor was the landing pad ready. And they want to practice barge landings, although this mission has the performance required to boostback / RTLS, it was either barge or no landing at all for this one.
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>this long coast time
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE TIME WARP BUTTON
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>>128892552
>not jiving to the phat beat
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broke the leg
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the fucker cratered
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ULA forever
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CRASHING THIS ROCKET

WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>128892357
Artyom Control was here a couple of weeks ago, and said he might do another mission if there was interest.
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>>128892829
>>128892818
>>128892893
source
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>>128893174
the guy on the stream said one of the legs probably broke as the rocket came down faster that he should have, no confirms tho and no footage yet
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>>128894005
They're narrow, but that's just Asians... Slightly upturned eyes look small without makeup. Just google "Asians without makeup"
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Fun fact: It takes 9 S3 KS-25x4 "Mammoth" Liquid Fuel Engines to achieve the same thrust as the Saturn V's first stage.
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Friendly reminder of the best OC /kspg/ produced last year.
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>>128894997
ahem
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>>128897528
Who cares?
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>>128894532
Fun fact: start playing RO, scrub
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>set alarm to wake me up for the spacex stream
>look at clock
>12:24
FUCK
Did they land?
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>>128900330
Landing leg broke on a little too hard landing
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>>128900330
one of the legs broke during flight so it tipped over on the boat

the launch was really cloudy so you couldnt see much

here's a cap i got from the laucnh

apparently this was supposed to be the last falcon 9 v 1.1 launch so it's not too bad that it broke
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>>128900739
>>128900848
Were they still using the old legs or did they upgrade them to the new ones?
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>>128903695
>i-it's ok...
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>>128904135
?
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>leg lockout didn't latch
why not use a push down-and-out leg instead of a fixed pivot point one?
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>>128904959
Because latch rhymes with satch
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>>128905448
>everything Elon does is to impress satchie
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These engines are pretty smoky
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>>128906875
>spewing out chemtrails
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>>128908278
?
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>>128908278
>not wanting to keep your nonexistent kerbal population subdued and placated
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>>128908787
????
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>>128904959
Because keeping a leg outside with a "simple" piston to push it down is probably more reliable, light and compact than what you are thinking of
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>>128909224
Why would he cry over a completed mission? Stay salty Bezos.
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>>128902401
I knew that their whole "waiting until seconds before landing to extend the legs" was going to bite them in the ass
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>>128909224
Still taking money from ULA even though the landing wasn't a success. :^)
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>landing on a barge
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>>128910152
>landing
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>>128910152
>implying that was a landing
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>>128910152
>>128910241
>>128910273
>bargebraking
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>VAB just freezes up, can move the camera around but can't click anything
>need to restart
>the amount of mods makes it take 200 years
fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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I landed on the Mun before I started using RCS.
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ded
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:3
http://www.crazyhorsebooks.com/upload/2/a8/2a8605d688f08127.gif
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>>128912754
I still don't understand what humanfuckers get out of shit like this
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rage, rage against the dying of the thread
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>>128788312
>Not even a GAZ
What a pleb.
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That stream wasn't very good kspg
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