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Previous thread: >>128495413
>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>Forum, Announcements...
http://forums.duelyst.com/

>Faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started
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Ded fucken game desu
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I want to fap to Abyssian porn, but didn't find anything.
Help pls.
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>>128540156
See >>128538015
Who would do porn for a ded game?
It's 2016 and we still lack new content, come on!
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>no terrain effects
>small field
>new cards every turn, can summon effectively anywhere
>can play any ally in any order
>coinflip start
Meh.
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Are these two guys worth keeping or should I DE them?

Also how is Songhai fair? Whenever I play against them I get burst for 20 damage.
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>>128542248
>no varied movement speed
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>Most factions have 10000000 hard removals and 100000 AoE
>The only way to win is abuse 0tko stuff from Songhai

No wonder this general is DEAD
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>>128544094
Good point also. And no associated disables either.

is it time to turn these threads into online strategy/tactics pvp games generals?
Or online tcg generals?
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>>128543829
DE nether summoning

Sarlac is playable in vetruvian
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I just bought 15 spirit orbs, but they dont show up

did i just get scammed?

help
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>>128553273
>Parting with your shekels
You done goofed, anon
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>Tfw some cheeky bitch cunt ruins your win streak
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>>128553273
bug report it

>spending money when orbs are easy as fuck to get
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>>128561265
>spending money on any beta game
>ever
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would appriciate any suggestions on this, I am noob
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>>128563647
Is this supposed to be an aggro deck or what?
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>>128564116
I guess
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>>128564894
-2 Soul grimwar
- 2 silouthet tracer
- black solus

+jaxi
+ 2 primus fist
+shadow reflection
+ dark seed
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>>128565196
and also remove shadow dancer
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>>128565632
thanks mate, will try that
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Egyptian space waifu confirmed for unit, not general
Still no answer to keeper.
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holy shit more stuff
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>>128572686
unfortunate.

and i'm guessing actual balance changes only happen at the end of the month then
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Last

I'm guessing it's probably the Blast animation since there's already one for Vet attacking
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>>128572686
That animation looks really good. Looks like she lacks like.

>>128573165
This one also looks great in regards to the colours. A shame it's Lyonar, though. The floating gauntlets are cool.

>>128573386
nothin personnel songoloid edge shit

>>128573597
What's the claw he points with? I'm not sure if he's holding a giant knife or the Staff of Y'kir, either.

http://bigjerkart.tumblr.com/post/133902229210/unseven-yes-that-one-is-coming-soon-to

This one looks pretty great. Not edgey or autistic like the furry legend. Hoping it'll come soon.
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>>128574969
the vet guy has a tentacle claw in his official artwork
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>>128574969
Vet commander has a jack going out of his palm I assume that's it regarding the claw. Staff of Y\kir looks a bit different on the spell so I assume this is the regular weapon or somesuch.

Looks damn cool tho.
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>>128573597
Time to farm gold for that tentacle I guess.
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>>128575257
Oh, right.
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>>128572686
i noticed to, but actually they just changed it in the post to "Vetruvian General Scioness Sajj"
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>>128576203
Oh
Well, shit.
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>>128574969
>That animation looks really good. Looks like she lacks like.
lacks LEGS. It looks like her body ends with her dress. Fuck.
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Its a shame you cant blacklist some quests
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I think cyclone mask songhai is far more cancerous than meme fox
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>instead of balancing the game here's an AI update that you all wanted :>)

fuck this
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How would you rate this game's rng dependence compared to games like hearthstone?
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>>128582109
Little to none. Keeper is the only exception, and hopefully they fucking do something about it
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>>128582109
they recently released a couple bullshit rng minions, all of them unplayable except for jaxi and keeper of the vale, both of which will undoubtedly be nerfed/ have their rng removed
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>>128582398
>Jaxi
>little to none
That card is worst than keeper. Way fucking worst.
>>128582947
I doubt that jaxi will get nerfed, purely because there wasn't an uproar about it in the forums even if it's the exact same shit, maybe even worst. For me next patch will decide if I keep playing this game or just uninstall. I have tons of vidya to play after all
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>no nerfs on meme fox
>no nerfs on meme boar
>no nerfs on songay at all
>ne buffs on abshittyan

some shitty practice AI instead
Geez, thanks developers!
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>>128586235

Is Songhai really that strong? What combos get used at higher skill levels?
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>>128586235
higher level meme fox
literally One Turn Kill with 26 damage
nothing you can do
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>>128582109
Has been okay up until the last two months which introduced two bullshit rng cards
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How many threads did we go through in the last 24 hours, like 5?
Just let it die
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Jaxi is literally a better neutral Gloom chaser

Why would you make this card
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>>128587785
I don't think the devs can into game design
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>>128587123
Unless you luck out and are able to kill both. My personal issues with them is their capability to obilterate you with no input from you. Like putting on 3 Masks and just casting anything, and i mean ANYTHING and murdering you.

>>128587712
How many years of life have you gone trough? Just die.
Seriously, you sound like a retard, we want to post here, not our fault thread is slow.

Speaking of last thread, still working on those drawings that people asked for.
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>>128588016
Why the hostility anon-kun
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>>128588169
Because some dweeb wants the thread to die again.
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>>128588361
It'd be mercy
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>>128587785
chromatic doesnt kill gloomchaser :^)
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>>128586235
Fucking this.

Are the Counterplay devs trying to compete with Ben Brode on being retarded?
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>>128536582
>If your account was made before January 3rd of this month, you can claim a gift orb of a Spirit Orb, spirit, and an exclusive festive Snowchaser emote

Do you have to buy something to get this stuff?
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>>128594758
No, you just login
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I havent played in a month

fill me in memes
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>>128600132
vanar is now best faction, memefox are still a meme
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>Playing Lyonar starter deck because lol quests
>Other guy brought a MECHAZOR deck
>Has it on like turn 3
>Keep pressuring him anyway
>He starts BMing
What the fugg
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>>128601532
what does BMing means senpai
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>>128602416
BMing is short for bamming which came from damming which came from damning.
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>>128604473
What a shitlord!
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Reminder to play 1 rustcrawler once you get into gold
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>>128602416
BM = Bad Meme
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>>128602416
bad mannering
bumping
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>Boot the game back up in forever
>Pull out my budget Lyonar deck
>15 minute matches of just me stalling the shit out until I can DB my Ironcliffe or get lots of explosive heals

Just need to wait for the day when mill decks become possible and I'll be in heaven.
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>>128617129
>mill decks
What? Is that HS terminology?
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>>128618046
"Mill is a term used to describe the act of putting cards from a deck into the graveyard. This attempts at trying to win a duel by causing your opponent to be unable to draw cards."

From mtg
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>>128572686
I'm as sad as I can be
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>>128618046
I think it's from Yugioh where you basically make your opponent lose by decking out, but it might be a harder win condition here due to only taking two damage per forced draw
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>>128618179
>>128618314
Oh, like a Recycle Leppa Berry build in competitive Pokemon.
Makes sense, but it's pretty much impossible in this game.
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>>128618314
>>128618564
That's a shame.

My favorite thing in card games is the especially long and drawn out game where you actively crush your opponent's soul while playing.
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>>128618314
"milling" as a way to win by decking your opponent out comes from magic.

Milstone was the first card in magic to really allow a player to build around this strategy.
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>>128618564
What? No. It's more like taunting a supporter or whatever until they run out of PP so they struggle to death. I never stuck with Comp Pkmn.
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>>128618713
Yeah, no. Definitely not possible here, at least not with the current range of cards. The opponent will just drop a bunch of heavier stuff and eventually outlast your heals/controls, or just OTK with meme fox regardless of your health.

The best way I can think of buffing your general to outlast is via Grandmaster Z'ir, but you can't infinitely buff. If Divine Bond gets reworked to fuse two minions, you could try fusing it with an Owlbeast, but I'm just going off in a shitty hypothetical here that would barely work out even if the cards existed to make it possible..
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>>128619013
...but Recycle Leppa achieves the same thing, though.
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>>128619213
Maybe I googled the wrong thing
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>>128619361
Recycle Leppa is literally just recycling the PP berry over and over. It's been banned in tournaments, though, because some guy won by using that on a Blissey or something.
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>>128619549
So it makes matches like 3x as long right?
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>>128619907
Potentially infinitely long depending on the match-up.
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>matchmaking will be disabled for 30-45 mins while we deploy the patch

okay
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>>128576203
>>128618298
I'm happy again
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>>128619980
>>128619907
Yeah, it's a perfect loop, which we don't have in this game as far as I know.

I mean, Keeper came close, but I've been thinking about possible loops and nothing comes to mind.

Once we have one (if we have one), then "milling" will be possible, if I understand the phrase right.
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>>128621692
Not just matchmaking, but logins as well. Fuck, I wanted to see what they did.
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>>128622798
there's a Stormkage + Manaforger loop, but it only deals with minions and not the enemy general.

I think you're still misunderstanding milling.
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>>128623238
To elaborate: in most card games you instantly lose the game if you attempt to draw from an empty deck (there's some amount of variation to this rule including simply running out of cards in your deck makes you lose, or losing on the draw step when you have no cards in deck). You lose. Game ends. There's no playing on with what you've got in hand or just taking damage whenever you try drawing with no cards in deck.

Mil decks are decks are those which aim to win via forcing you to lose on this rule. "Decking them out." Some do this by forcing the opposing player to draw. However, the actual act of "milling" refers to what the original Milstone did: discard the top card of your opponent's deck. For YGOfriends, think Empty Jar. Or Lightsworn for self-mil.

The only possible example of this in Duelyst would be Magmar's Mind Steal and Abyssian's Reaper of the Nine Moons. Neither of which I'm certain actually remove the cards from your deck. Even if they did it's arguable whether this counts as milling or not.

Other than the originator which spawned the term which focused on grinding out the opponent slowly but surely (much like HS "mil"/fatigue decks) mil decks are traditionally combo decks. I believe Magic's standard format had some form of draw loop in their meta recently but for a good example look at the Grindstone + Painter's Servant combo.

Sorry if a lot of this is rambly and incoherent, playing Granblue in the background.
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>>128591092

But it does.
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>>128624902
>mobile games
>there are like 10 different mobile games generals on /vg/
people like you are the reason this general dies so fast
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>>128629163
>people like you are why this general dies so fast
>on-topic, relevant discussion with offhand mention of another game is why this general dies so fast
what
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>>128629387
those other threads are pretty fast and there's a lot of them. Like some generals have 3 threads a day so others get bumped off if they aren't fast enough.
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>>128629585
Yes but what does that have to do with anything?
Someone was apparently misunderstanding what milling was. I explain milling in-depth. Then I excuse any inconsistencies in my writing with another game as an aside.

This kills the general now? Did you read my post? Do you think milling is a mobage mechanic?
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>>128629387
because degenerate mobile games players like yourself spam a gorillion threads a day with waifu trashposting for cancerous lottery games with cute animeme grills

>>128629689
you offtopic mentioned granblue you triple nigger
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so what are these new expansion faction units? Just cards? Or entire subfaction?
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>Replace is now visible

goddamn it
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>>128629853
So by contributing to this thread instead of one of those I'm killing this thread now

Chill son

>>128629951
Vanar is the last faction we're getting until post-release according to devs. So just more cards. Which we're in dire need of.
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>>128630041
Hasn't it always been? You can check it on the side
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>>128630145

But it's not VISIBLE visible. Other people can see it on the board.
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>>128630332

now visible, I mean
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>>128630041
>Hiding your actions

you can even see what tile the opponent is highlighting.
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>>128630041
This is a good change, allows you a better view of your opponents hand
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instead of rush being a normal ability, it should be changed to an opening gambit.
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>>128631939

It... is. Technically.
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>>128632018
of KotV or any other 'resurrecting' minion/spell summons a rush, you can use it immediately where as if it was OG, it would be limited to out of hand.
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>>128632175

Ah. Good point.
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>>128631939
In that case you'd have to change headhunter though, he'd be stupid
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>there is no way to sell my 10.000 gold

;_;
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Is Mirkblood Devourer a worthwhile Leggo? Specifically in a Vetruvian deck?
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>>128640576

Donate to me pls

How much for it all pls
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>>128640989
it felt way too slow for me when i tried it
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Anyone got a good vet deck? I have 2 3rd wich, but can't quite get into gold, around 11/12 rank.
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>>128648402
Well, just got to gold, but the request still stands. I think I'm a bit too reliant on 3rd Wish + Wind Howler ATM
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Is control/midrange magmar still dogcrap?
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>>128655929
no, when was magmar dogcrap?
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Ded game
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No more 2 player
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>>128669916
in training grounds m8
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>couldn't stop a songhai from getting board control

is this what hell is like
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Sucks that Lyonar takes 0 skill to play. You can just bang your head on a table and still win with them.
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>>128648402
I used this to get to S this season. Though I ended up needing to swap out a Chaos Elemental for another Crossbones because I kept running into mechs.

You can probably swap out the Sarlacs and Maelstroms for other shit if you don't have them. Howler works fine for Sarlac. Saberspines are good too
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>can't draw 2 flash reincarnations and an Elder or Khymera as a first turn play
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POST s RANK DECKS
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>>128683140
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>>128683140
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>>128683140
>>128683352
>>128684468
I get it, I have to craft 3x Spectral Blade, OK.
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>Trump just confirmed that he's been offered cash to play Duelyst on stream
>He implied that Amaz was offered such a deal too

>Amaz's stream doesn't openly say he's being paid by the company to play their game
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>>128683140
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>>128624902
Uh, yeah, sort of?

The closest thing to milling in this game is the damage you take with an empty deck - akin to a Recycle Leppa causing a Struggle ending.

That said, that's the only type of "milling" that can occur in this game.

I also thought of Lightchaser + Sunmaiden, and Hailstone + Alcuin, but the former is easily dispelled and the latter doesn't produce anything.

Storm Kage is actually a better example of that, though, but it as you said, it's ineffective at damaging the general, as well as any burst/rush damage.

What they were talking about were mill decks, but those will never be possible unless they involve outlasting forever.

For that to become possible, they either need a looping general-based heal, or a card that adds cards to their DECK and a way to replicate that card's effect.

If they reworked Keeper so it put all dead minions back in your deck, then outlasting your opponent's deck would be possible.
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>>128685107
>>128683140
not at all
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>>128683140
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>Jaxi x3
J U S T
U
S
T
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So basically no S rank for anyone unless you are running the most busted legends you can get your hands on, in multiples.

Also, Lyonar with 3 Arclyte Regalias is the epitome of bullshit.
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>>128683140
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>>128685178
Is this a surprise to anyone?

This is a good thing to me, anyways. About time counterplay start actually marketing.

Too bad it's at a time when the game's at its worst. Jaxi and Keepers everywhere.

>>128686153
No, see, you're still misunderstanding. Storm Kage is in no way mil. Infinite loops aren't mil in any way. Kage doesn't do anything for mil other than fill your hand so you can't draw I guess. In that sense I guess it's good in TOD/Fatigue decks but it doesn't do any direct milling or even forcing draws.

A mil deck is going to be looking to actively thin your opponent's deck. Either by forcing them to draw or by discarding their deck. Normally the latter as you don't really want to afford your opponent extra hand advantage in most situations but in Duelyst they'd just be discarded instantly anyways.

Hailstone isn't mil as much as it is a strong punish to full hands.

I'm not the same person you were talking with earlier; I just elaborated on the concept of milling.
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>>128688213
God I love Magic cards. There is so much ungodly bullshit that can happen. It's frustrating as hell, but also fun to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Reminds me of the first time I lost to a deck with no creatures.
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>>128688213
I never said Kage was a mill.

Anyway, that makes sense. Don't think anything like that playstyle will appear in Duelyst.
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>>128685178
That's great, but I'd prefer if they did this after Jaxi and Keeper were btfo- if that ever happens
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>>128688591
If wizards of the coast finally got out of their asses and started making a good magic online game they would be swimming in money. Instead we have to survive playing games like this which are basically based in boring ass hearthstone.
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>>128691002
True, but I have to say I actually like Duelyst, it has some neat ideas. not to mention it already feels like it has more soul than Goystone, and it actually isn't harmed by it's simplicity.

There WERE some good cardgames that didn't follow the norm, like Infinity Wars, but they universaly didn't advertize and eventually just... Disintegrated I guess.
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>>128691002
Eh I think there's a big problem in that you can't translate games like this away from the kitchen table too well. You need to give time to respond to instants and that timer makes the online variants feel like such a chore to play. In real life you can just smack the card down on the table.
I actually prefer Force of Will because I hate lands
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>>128691823
Holy shit, mentioning this and it seems like Infinity Wars is actually alive, devs are talking again after like, 3 months of nothing.

if anyone wants something more like MtG over Heartstone, they should check it out!

Of course you can't compare ti with this game, but I figure some of you might be interested in dealing with other types of bullshit and milling people
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Were about to get a sudden influx of new players.
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>>128692720
Is someone streaming?
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>>128692804
PewDiePie just released a Duelyst video.
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>>128692804
>>128692720
Oh shit year, Amaz is on it
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>>128692804
>>128692928

Cryaotic is also streaming now.
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>>128693054
Oh shit I love Cry's LP's! Link?
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>>128691890
>Force of Will
Always the same problem with this types of games. If I knew someone who was interested I would love to play it. Sadly I live in a shitty euro country with no connections and nothing interesting going on. Shit, I would recieve even a fucking furry con with open arms at this point
/blog over
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>>128692954
>>128693054
I feel a certain kind of investment into this. I really want Amaz to like it so that the hordes invade the game and it doesn't end up taking
Remove rng, though
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>>128693054
Wow. Didn't expect that.
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>>128693186
Can't link, because it thinks it's spam
Go on twitch
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>>128693192
Yeah it's the struggle of trying to find a scene to play shit. I'm pretty fortunate that my LGS is pretty diverse. I've got friends elsewhere that say all they do is Magic and Yugioh at their locals.
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>>128694221
Eh, Cryaotic's playstyle is kind of atrocious. He lost to a 2x divine bonded High Hand when he could've easily won if he just moved himself out of its range, and there are a bunch of other instances where he just overlooks better moves.

Clearly new-ish, but it's still nice to see another streamer playing the game.
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>>128695602
Is there anyone that even streams S-rank? Shit's disgustingly easy to get I thought I'd see it more.
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>>128692489
i doubt infinity wars will ever actually go anywhere with the devs it has

wish i could have played more of that cancerous triple verore shit and play a boardwipe every other turn
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>>128696386
Wait, why can't you? 3 Verore has no actual counter other than mill decks or other 3 Verore.

Also I know what you mean, like I said, I expected the game to be dead (mostly because some faggot on the design council was spreading news how Lightmare was going to stop work on it), they just released some new info today, so I guess there is hope yet.

Shit's fun, in a completely different way.

On topic of Duelyst tho, any high level (so above gold) people playing vs Lyonar, what's the status on Arclyte Regalia? To me it looks look to be easily the most busted artefact once you stack 2 on.
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>>128692928
>>128693054
>>128692954
New players coming in? Maybe our threads won't die overnight anymore and we'll get some memes to keep us alive.
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>>128697429
twitchers chatters don't go to 4chan
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>>128697429
I'll miss the mostly-quality discussions
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>>128697375
i stopped playing when it was apparent the devs didn't care so i could never play it outside of the weekly free version

who leaves a free weekly deck unusable for months?

>>128697375
>they just released some new info today,
what? where?

all i see is the 17 day old announcement that says "we aren't dead we swear!"
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>>128697375
Regalia is really good, but not as powerful and holy. Stacking them sucks imo because it only blocks damage from the first hit it recieves, so you are losing stacks anyways most of the time after blocking that jaxi hit. It's also very high price, so yeah. Good, but not amazing. Can shut down rush factions that mostly focus on damaging you like songhai and face abyss, but lyonar is already good at that without regalia.
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anythign i should change? i got to S rank last month with this

i have 190 spirit and can probably disenchant 1-2 legendaries
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>>128700265
Nova is a piece of shit in general, more so in your deck. Change for rejuvenator because jesus loves heals. Add a revenant somewhere, and primus fists if you feel like it for the forgers. Too may dark seeds and alcuins too, cut two down for twilights cause them magics son.
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>>128700663
>>128700663
guessing that list is obsolete and i want to end up using something like this instead?
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Gib Vanar decks pls
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>>128701221
https://forums.duelyst.com/t/ryviraths-tier-lists-decklists-drafting-guide-etc/20121
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>>128698528
They are asking for people to test the new patch, says to me the post was made today.
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>>128702223
link? any patch notes?
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>>128702589
http://forum.lightmare.com.au/index.php?topic=65562.0
Just bugfixes are shown ATM, albeit some crucial ones. No talk of new cards yet.
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Anyone still watching Cry? It's nice seeing someone figure out the game.
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>>128704667
I am. Surprised he's not rolling Lyonar due to how straightforward it is.
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>>128705750
Yeah, he kind of chose a weird way of doing things. Vanar is a weird faction to start on, and he didn't exactly build an amazing deck.

Still, Lyonar are annoying to play against when you're starting, so I can't complain there.
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>>128700265
You should change faction. Too many songhai and lyonar in ladder and they faceroll abyssian. Also your deck quality is subpar to even have a reliable 50% winrate - manaforgers and novas are slow to utilize, silhouette tracer is just an odd piece, saberspines are subpar to sustain bigger dps than your opponents, only 2 spectral baldes, no sorcs to duplicate core spells. Your decks need a lot of work. Either gather more spirit to craft the missing cards (and revenants) or enjoy grinding for 2 weeks
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>>128707169
i was trying to make this thing

it usually wins vs songhai unless its double tusk boars turn 1 or lantern fox bullshit

it does feel like its stuck between 2 different decks without the rite of the undervault
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Give snowchaser rush y/n
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>>128709718
Yeah. Then nerf the rest of their shit to the ground including kotv.
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>>128709718
>2 times mana damage every turn
That's a bit silly anon
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>>128710483
still weaker than songay desu
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>>128709718
please
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>meme fox untouched
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>>128713614
Inner Focus is the Songhai card they should be hitting anyway.
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>>128709718
What? He's already the best 1-drop in the game. Why do you fuckin' nerds want to buff him?
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>>128713875
meme fox is still broken even without inner focus

if you let any fox live you forfeit your life
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I don't see anyone playing mechaz0r here

Got to S rank a few days back with my magmar mechaz0r; it really got hit hard by the magmar nerfs but it's still pretty decent

any tips/comments?
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>>128719506
add headhunters
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bonp
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How do we fix Keeper
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>>128728120
revives 1 random unit that died during your last turn?
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>>128728120
Give it something completely different
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>>128715014
every 1 drop in the game except him is shit though
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>>128732287
So how is the logical move to make the only one that's strong stronger? Especially when the faction is the new top meme.
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>>128732287
>shit
Uh, maybe basic/common cards. Helm of Mechaz0r isn't bad at all, and the same goes for Planar Scout.

I don't think it needs a buff, but I do agree that even if it did receive one it would still be weaker than Songhai (18 damage in comparison to 26. If you used Lady Locke, you would still get 18 damage).
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So does this game have a bullshit F2P model? Or do you only pay for aesthetic stuff?

Let me know so I don't waste my time.
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>>128735291
It's not bullshit. Play and you'll get cards. Rares aren't hard to get. You'll probably get 1-2 every 4-5 packs or so.

No aesthetics yet.
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>>128735291
it's a card game idiot, what do you think? do you get yu gi oh decks for free in real life?
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>>128735291
It's like the HS model.
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>>128735291
>>128736561
Worth noting that it's magnitudes better than HS's drop rates. The trade-off is you'll need more copies and deck sizes are larger but it's no contest in terms of ease of entry.

Of course HS also has, what? 3 campaigns you have to buy into now too? Even in beta days, though, this would be easier to get into.
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What do you guys think about that vanar artifact Winterblade? I just got two in succession and I'm wondering if they're worth playing. They seem kinda pricey.
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>>128739083
That the one that stuns? Total garbage. I cannot think of a worse artifact in the entire game.
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>>128739083
Utter shit
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>>128739304
>>128741989
Alright, time to dust it. Thanks guys.
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should I dust arclyte regalia, time maelstrom, and coldbiter as a new player? I'm thinking about making a lyonar or vanar deck, but I don't know if these are used in any meta decks
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>>128743125
I wouldn't dust any of them. regalia is godlike, maelstrom can be a win condition, coldbiter is the weakest of them but can stil find use and might find synergy in the future
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>>128743125
No dust. You could do Coldbiter but it might be an okay combo with winter blade if you get one
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Th-thanks
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what's the best classes in gauntlet?
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>>128747964
Vanar, Lyonar, probably Magmar too
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I fucking hate mana tiles.
I don't get the point of them. They basically ensure that if you can't play a minion in the first turn you are fucked and won't recover. It's even worst as the second player because you must put a minion in that position or else the enemy will get two tiles and you will lose instantly.
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>>128748824
I guess the point is to focus the battle on the middle of the map, stopping defensive decks from becoming too strong. Like, we'd see many, many more ranged/blast/direct damage decks if not for them
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How do you defeat the cancer which is Songhai?
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>>128750121
Play Vet, Cosmic Flesh + 3rd Wish your Sand Howlers.
They are one of my easier matchups.
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>>128750195
I am playing vet right now, but don't have third wish.
Fucking bullshit class that shits itself if it doesn't have third wish.
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>>128750279
Not really. Basically in the game Legendaries are easy to get. You will find that most other factions also have mandatory bullshit cards of Epic of Legendary quality (Songhai with their fucking boars for instance, or Magmar and Metamorphosis). It just breaks on Vet to have more crucial ones.
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>>128751542
10/10 would cryo again.
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>>128751542
Goddamn
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>>128751542
>6 cryogenisis
>one lone vespyr unit

10/10
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>>128753505
2 actually
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>>128748824
Without mana tiles there is absolutely no incentive to move forward at all.
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wew i did not expect an actual good game to have a general on here

lyonar a best

easiest s rank of your life
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>>128754557
aye

this is my favorite general. rare shitposting, and if it is, it's good hearted banter. shame it's mostly dead.
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>>128754557
It's a pretty nice general but we keep having to ressurect it because the big boy generals push us off the board
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Can KotG revive eggs?
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>Spent millions of spirit building a songhai deck
>Cards won't come
>Losing streak, getting tired of the game and how bad I am
>Make a shitty half baked mechavanar deck
>Fucking everyone up in diamond
Thank you mechaz0r for restoring my faith in this game and myself.
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>>128758081
I think those are tokens, so probably not
better try it out though
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>>128759180
>playing songay and mechancer

Dispose of thyself forthwith, lowly vermin.
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>>128759180
>>128759180
So it doesn't only happen to me? I will be sitting there replacing cards for days for any piece of a combo and nothing good happens.
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>>128761717
It's a combo deck, you're fighting your draw instead of the board
Don't play combo decks if you don't want to have quality solitaire gameplay
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>>128761972
It's not like that happens to me all the time. I just either get really decent/good hands for like 5-7 games or complete shit hands for like 5-7 games.
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>>128760962
Well, I used to play vet too but now I dislike the new playstyle with the blast third wish. I think I made a little rant here one day complaining like the bitch that I am. I should just disenchant the faction but I can't bring myself to do it
>>128762246
That's songhai for you. Really good when you win, useless when you get bullshit that makes no sense like a mask of shadows, two gorehorns, a saberspine seal and a killing edge in your hand. If you get something like this you are probably fucked.
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mask of shadows cyclone mask is bullshit
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>>128766802
>>128766802
the entire faction is based on bullshit
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>>128770374
Dark nemesis. Nice effect and you can still play a 2 mana if you were at 9 mana.
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>>128770374
I'd go with the decimate, I like removal
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>>128770798
What kind of curve should I get in the end with Lyonar?
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>>128770906
Mid to high is usually good for gauntlet
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why is lyonar such an overpowered class?
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>>128779085
kotv and magmar nerf put them over the top
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Does anyone have the picture of the Seven Sisters?
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>>128780179
>mfw I just found out Grailmaster effects stack
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>>128780860
>vorpal reaver
>grailmaster
Like, it never works, but I like to think about it.
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which one?
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>>128781978
Jax and then hope for a razorback
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>>128781978
Keeper has the best raw value which is what you're looking for
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>>128781978
Damn
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>>128780179
No

>>128762905
Yeah I feel like I end up replying to you a lot.

If you're really that against it you should talk about it on the forums. Devs aren't going to be coming here for feedback anytime soon.

I'd consider it but I'm not sure what I'm looking out of Vet is the same as everyone else. I got into them because they seemed like a spell-slinging blue control deck with a great aesthetic. I definitely don't like that they're basically a white aura deck at this point. Cosmic Flesh got bumped up into useful territory and Third Wish is just plain crucial to Vet's gameplan. On top of First Wish being a useful cantrip it's just a buff faction now which is disappointing.

Who knows maybe I'm not alone. I saw Amaz picked up Vet. He saw Dominate Will and went for it, I'd imagine. I saw Time Maelstrom and knew it was the faction for me. I just want some blue control.

Either way if anyone wants results the forums are where you gotta go to.
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>>128784679
Oh wow, they look cool as hell. I assume that's some special set of cards in the works (Vet one looks fantastic with the Cannon)?
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>>128786140
What we know about them is that they're new units, yes. Apparently they'll have some new keyword associated with them and apparently it'll have something to do with the symbols on their cannons.

And yes Vet always gets the best waifus.
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>>128786850
glad there is no mouth on this one
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Does anyone know what they mean by "Commanders 2.0"? Do they get a visual update or is it something else?
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>>128790226
Same. Kill the duckface.
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>>128790467
probably just cosmetic leveling rewards or skins you can buy
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>>128784679
>the forums are where you gotta go to
They ignored the whole keeper thing without giving an answer, like we are going to forget that shit even if it's there in every game. They won't change shit m8.
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>>128791263
They're at least aware of the complaint. They can't do shit if they're not aware.

And patches were said to be monthly now they were never going to do shit to Keeper until next season no matter how big of a fuckup it was.
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Songhai should genuinely be removed from the game. Teleport, unexhaust, direct damage, ridiculous attack buffs, all of it. It's so fucking badly designed I want to throw up.
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>>128794101
You are overreacting. This shit is balanced and fun compared to shit like Handlock or Freeze Mage.
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>>128795224
>fun
bypassing the entire mechanic which makes this game remotely remarkable is not "fun"
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>>128795420
Again, you didn't see other TCG's. Songay have the fatal weakness of low board presence (unless they put out Boars, but fuck that card generally) to trade for their other bullshit. If you ask a Songay, he is probably going to tell you ALL about how bullshit Wind Howler/Mechaz0r decks are.

And just so we are are clear I don't like Songai generally. Their aesthetic are kinda cool, but not cool enough for me. Vanar are the only ones I like less personally. But even Vanar seems honest after playing Hearthstone and being dicked by Blizzard for a year (I was playing Warr)
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which is better?
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>>128796403
>If you ask a Songay, he is probably going to tell you ALL about how bullshit Wind Howler/Mechaz0r decks are.
And then tell you how he just played his way around it by dealing 26 damage to the enemy general in one turn. Even a Vanaz0r deck can only do 20 damage on demand (helm + razorback + spirit of the wild + 2 extra damage if you can attack with your general) with the best positioning possible, but Songhai just fucking ignores the boards and shits on anyone no matter what.
Seriously, Songhai should either get a serious overhaul or be removed.
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>>128801636
Probably Vet, I think. You rolled the three lesser gauntlet factions, so good luck with any of them.
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>>128796403
>needing board when songfags can annihilate the opponent regardless of positioning
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honestly dispel is a stupid-ass mechanic and should not be as common as it is
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>>128802248
All right, are obelysks acceptable in this format or should I pick then only if the other 2 are complete shit?
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>>128803997
Duelyst has a shit-ton of huge threats, so you obviously need a shit-ton of counters that mitigate the threat.
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>>128807584
it's just boring though
>play thing
oh wait it got silenced and is now just a big fat vanilla creature
every time
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>>128808261
if it didnt exsist then whoever gets to play the big fun guy first wins, because your opponent cant remove or mitigate it in any way
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>>128809447
yeah and that means that the design of this game is fundamentally flawed
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>>128745131
Hey buddy, care to share your s rank vetruvian deck?
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>>128810945
Right here >>128674576
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>>128804964
Hmm. I don't do a lot of Gauntlet, but one or two probably wouldn't be awful if the other options are equally mediocre. The issue is that they're really easy to take down even without dispel, so I'd try to either play it early on or not at all.

I personally wouldn't pick them, but maybe they'll last more than usual. I don't know.
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>>128815153
Well I took 4 in the end, 2 basic and 2 of the 3 mana buff attack.
Going well so far, 3-0.
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>>128817093
Good luck, then.
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Holy cow anyone seen this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnssN5ymwA
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>>128823418
I wonder how long that actual match took. Is there any way to see the full game?
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Should I quit Hearthstone and play this instead senpaitachi? I'm sick of not being able to scratch my tcg itch without submitting myself to palawarlock rngfest online.
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>>128829950
>Quit HS
HS is still the best in its category of "easy to play, toilet card games."
Duelyst is a better put together game with more strategic elements, and more cards that allow for huge swings in either direction.
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>misplay
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>>128830139
Obviously I would still take my shits playing HS, but I'd like a better option for when I have an actual computer.
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>>128830293
>don't get the punish I deserve
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>>128829950
You're just in time for the era of RNG to be included in duelyst my friend...
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>>128830419
Then yeah, perfect.

Getting started in Duelyst is far easier than HS too.
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hey guys help me with this image, i know it has potential
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>>128781009
abyssian has the best synergy with it, but no one ever runs it
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>>128834265
Because it has the best synergy in theory but in practice Abyssian doesn't want a game to go long enough for them to get use out of it.
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>>128834109
I know you can't be this retarded.

>SongfagTutorial
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>>128834109
rush minions ?
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>>128834109
mark of solitude vale hunter
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>>128834109
Playing magmar after mana burn nerf
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Guys how does the time limit of the gauntlet work?
If I'm mid-run when it finishes I'll get kicked out and given the prize for the current wins?
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>>128843581
Yes. Better get those games in
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>>128843581
>>128844320
That's not how it happens at all. You can sit on an old deck through big patches even.
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Havent posted since the patch

did control decks survive?
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>>128847840
Vanar is the god right now and Hailstone is hard to surmount but I've had decent success with mine. Enough to get to S, at least.
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>mech deck
>only draw one piece
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>>128834109
frostfire blue goblin
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>>128847840
not really no, its midrange or face
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how do you play around Songhai?
they just run away the whole game, dropping minions out of reach, killing your minions from across the board

it's like the faction can completely ignore board position
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>>128860284
You try to stay in their face withe cursing CP for designing such a pisspoor faction, and hope that they lose their drawing game before the clock runs out
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>>128860284
Also tech rust crawler
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>>128861093
but when i stay in their face they just reactivate swords of mechazor and buff other things

when i stay away, they buff ranged units or just burn me out slowly
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>>128861987
The former is better than the latter
Have fun
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>>128860284
Personally I REALLY like playing Vet against them. 3rd Wish Sand Howlers are a Songay's worst nightmare, especially with Cosmic Flesh.

Also if he's a cheeky cunt and decides to Pando your minions he pretty much autoloses if you get in rage of him and Cosmic Flesh it.
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>>128862891
Oh and Energy Siphon + Mirage master can have him play himself with Memefox.
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>>128830635
>>128832978
I fell asleep. Guess I'll take the risk of arriving for the era of rng, can't get any worse than HS anyway. Downloading the game now.
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bunp
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>>128770895
it's extremely rare for decimate to be useful, especially in arena where you won't see mechazor and you have no way to guarantee support cards for decimate(repulsor beasts for example).

i don't want a 4 mana card that will kill one creature and is playable only on turn out of 10.
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>>128862891
>Have budget Vet deck that I really like but is kinda meh
>Play against Songhai, ohboyherewego.jpg
>Opponent plays out his turns almost instantly, brings me down to 7hp with ease
>Pandos my Jaxi
>draw my single third wish
>PANDO BLAST TIME
>Songhai turns are suddenly much much longer
>PANDO COSMIC FLESH MOTHERFUCKER
>win it

I'm only two weeks into the game but oh boy, do I have found my favourite faction.
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bump so we don't have to make a new thread again
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bump helper
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bump helpest
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>>128874803
lmao
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I always hear decks describes as ''tempo'' but what exactly does tempo mean?
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>>128860284
I use burn and kill them before turn 8
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>>128879315
I've always understood it as 'the enemy has to react to you, instead of you reacting to him. So, let's play you play a 5-mana minion, the enemy removes it with a 2-mana hailstone and plays a fenrir, then that hailstone gained hima lot of tempo. Tempo decks would then be those that aim to gain control of the board and pressurize the enemy as cheaply as possible.
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Remember to play around grasp of agony if you're using cosmic flesh on a sand howler.
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>>128879315
Also https://forums.duelyst.com/t/tempo-in-duelyst-vs-tempo-in-hearthstone/25369/3
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when i first started the game i got like 3-4 legendaries the first week.
so did my friend.

now in the last months i opened a pack every other day and got 0 legendaries...

does anyone else have similar experiences? do you think is possible for the devs to have coded an increased in legendary drops for beginners to make the game more attractive?

as a wannable game developer i would totally do it

>>128879315
>what does tempo mean

italian for time. it freaks me out seeing italian words used by englishmen. As italian culture is frequently exported in comedy, lyric, music, cuisine, i can see tempo referring to the rhythm/measure frequency in musical performances.
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>>128882014
I haven't noticed anything like that
Every game with rng drops has people convinced that there's some kind of manipulation going on
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>>128882471
>Every game with rng drops has people convinced that there's some kind of manipulation going on

in this occasion both me and my friend had great luck in the first week.
and it also make a lot of sense in Duelyst economic model an commercial position.
in fact it is even an acceptable move gameplay-wise
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>>128882790
Well then make a few dozen accounts, play the starter quests and whatever else you can do to get quick boosters, and write down your results so that we have some data that isn't biased
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>>128882014
I imagine people are using tempo as a synonym from rhythm. It's only 5 letters rather than 6, and people are less likely to misspell the former than the latter. It makes more sense if you think of it that way.
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>>128883707
thanks.
gotta save that 1 letter.

i had to google rhythm spelling
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>>128882930
That's too much work, but I agree with him. When I started I got a lego every three patches at best. Now if I get an epic it's a fucking miracle. In fact it's been like three days with 4 commons and one rare.
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All Songhai are huge faggots pass it on
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Is this game still unbalanced trash?
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>>128892724
Depends on how many Vanar you're facing in ladder. Magmar's Mana Burn is now Vanar's Chromatic cold, which coupled with their value minions and the new retarded Keeper of the Vale is just a perfect storm of faggotry.
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>>128893156
Hello reddit
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>>128893441
You fucking what meito?
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>>128892724
Yes. With songhai being able to burst you down regardless of board state and the constant inclusion of RNG being shoved into the game makes duelyst HS 2.0. Also devs doesn't even address these issues while the forums are burning up with them. They are literally playing the piloted shredder approach where they sweep it under the rug and say it's the community's problem and that they have to play around it.
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>>128894337
>They are literally playing the piloted shredder approach where they sweep it under the rug and say it's the community's problem and that they have to play around it.
But anon, they haven't said anything at all to the topic
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>>128894539
Just like how HS did it with piloted shredder when everyone bitched about it.
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>>128894337
Maybe they will fix that thing at the end of the month. Tbh, 14 days aren't much, to determine if a card is problematic, while a month may be enough.
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>>128894869
But they did say something to PS
Namely that the community would have to deal with it
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>>128894869
>>128894996
Source?
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>>128897315
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3j9qra/ben_brode_qa_summary_off_angry_chicken_100/

>Increasing the randomness can increase the skill. Crackle isn't as obviously manipulable as Knife Juggler but the question remains when do I play it and do I risk playing it on something with more then 3 health? Do I have a backup if it doesn't work out? I think it represents intense skill and just feels bad when you lose. We can make it feel better or worse but I think it adds additional skill to the game.

This is pretty much the indirect "fuck you, we are not going to change shredder" response.

Note that GvG came out dec 2014 while that response came in at sept 2015.
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>>128899156
>I think it represents intense skill
Do you think he actually believes this, or that it's just cookie-cutter pr shit to make your playerbase feel good
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Drew some shitty pencil art of Vetruvian Sister (no references tho), I'll post a pic later if anyone is interested.
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>>128900850
pls
this game needs more fanart
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>>128900850
>shitty
anything is literally better than nothing at this point. hell, we should all draw some fanart no matter our skill level.
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Here. Had to take a pic with my phone.
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how is it possible that I've opened 20 packs for only 1 legendary in this piece of garbage game?
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>>128902369
That looks pretty decent. Draw some Duelyst memes.
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>>128904139
Same reason why I got over twenty of that useless snake.
This game sure got old quickly, uh?
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>>128902369
Looking good. I think the mask looked a bit different, but what you did still looks great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkdpeZUmd0
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>s-rank
>s
>songhai
it's all so clear to me now
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>>128907796
I want to die
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Post YFW Infinity Wars makes a return and blows this songhaifest out of the water
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>>128908263
>Infinity Wars
>Verore central
Yeah, let's exchange one cancer for another.
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>>128909602
Verore are not meta atm, it's all about seeing who can rush the fastest (which means most DoD natural victims are seeing play, fantastic for me).

I love both and intend to play both, you can't really compare the games.
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>>128909602
kek yeah the second I posted that I remembered things like le epic location of all your 200 creatures become completely useless for 10 turns and overcharged storm
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bubd
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banump
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>>128912924
>>128916062
>>128916062
Just let it die nigga.There's nothing to discuss and the game lacks content to talk about it beyond shitting on songhai.
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>>128917254
>the game lacks content to talk about it beyond shitting on songhai
Then let's shit on Songhai some more
FUCK EVERY SINGLE SONGHAI PLAYER SIDEWAYS WHAT KIND OF FAILED PROTOHUMAN FAGGOT PLAYS THIS SHIT. THEY NULLIFY POSITIONING AND SHIT OUT DAMAGE FROM NO BOARD STATE EASIER THAN THEIR DAD STICKS HIS COCK IN THEIR ASS
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Post average faction users.

Here's songhai.
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>>128917643
>Magmar
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>>128917254
it's easier than finding the general in the catalog again
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>>128917803
>that
>magmar
I would search for something more akin to them but sadly I'm working right now. Could someone be kind enough to post some bara gay lizard with egg laying itt?
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>>128918501
Protip: http://boards.4chan.org/vg/dyg will open up the catalog with dyg as search criteria
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>>128917643
Abyssian
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>>128919147
Women love the gay lizardmen.
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>>128917803
>women playing anything but phone games
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Mask of shadows doesn't work for shit, must be the most overrated card in the game. Ciclone is pretty much the same but worst, and they both take up space in your deck that you could be using running instant damage and minions. I reached S rank in the previous season without them and now that I wasted my spirit on them I cannot get beyond rank 4
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Here's your meme shitlords
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>>128924556

Free bump
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>>128924770
i like it
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>>128924770
>loss.jpg on Magmar's shirt
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New player here. Should I drop my gold on orbs or this arena-mode?

Also, the thread seems to be a bit slow. Do you think this would change once the game is out of the beta?
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>>128927818
>Counterplay wants to shill by having hearthstone streamers play Duelyst
>HS rejects flock to here to find the exact same shit and leave
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>>128927818
orbs. Get familiar with the game before tackling Gauntlet or else your just wasting gold.
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>>128924770
What's the original?
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>>128928632
Does HS even have minion animations like Duelyst?
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>>128935023
only spells and some legendary minions when they are summoned iirc
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>>128924770
this is after the patch?

i dont quite understand the magmar and songhai parts.
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>>128934738
>>128935681

Songhai is there to ruin the fun.
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>>128936065
Pretty much.
B O N P
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Just killed his 3rd Ironcliffe, he conceded.
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>>128947469
>Run Keeper
You're shit.
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How many spells is too many spells?
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This deck has been more consistent than anything else I have been playing
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>>128949294
only a shit head wouldn't run keeper for vetruvian.
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two flash reincarnations into khymera
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he diretide frenzied the mech. kinetic equalibrium to kill and ended up summoning another mech.
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Songhai

>literally nothin personnel kid - the faction
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poor magmar
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Guys guys. I just thought of a really cool card.

>7 mana
>1/7
>AirDrop
>Can be airdropped on top of a minion to destroy it
>this creature occupies a 2x2 area
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>>128950847
add twin claw and then shit yourself with how sleeper op that card is
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>>128966502
>still not as good as makator
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>>128951026
DESU I don't feel the need to run/craft it. I don't run many high cost creatures as Vet. The best I could hope for KotV is to bring back my Ayylmao (which I've only one).
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Also I'm the anon that asked for ideas two threads ago and drew that Vet Sister. Ended up dropping Emerald Rejuv drawing becauseh e looks too generic, and uhhhhhh, still trying to make Bluegoblin look good.

Anyone else got other suggestions?
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>>128972260
Oh and since I'm home how, I can use my Wacom to draw it digitally instead of on paper.
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November season dia player returning
Thought about picking up Vet but apparently 3rd wish got changed
Whats the hot meta now, I assume smegmar is still cancerous as shit
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>>128966502
>ranged 1-4 creature destruction that also summons a beefy but weak creature
compare to dark transformation
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>>128977254
Dinos got shitstopmed with mana Burn geoing to Vanar, Makantor is still obnoxious as fuck tho. New cancer is Vanar, and new 3rd with is OP on sticky creatures, but Dervish decks ahve no purpose ATM.
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>>128978659
Songhai is much more cancerous than Vanar, the latter at least uses the board in meaningful ways
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>>128978659
>mana burn going to vanar
>I mained Vanar
A A A A A Y Y Y Y YY Y Y Y Y Y Y
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>>128949398
It's too many spells when your deck starts to lose because of it.
what kind of question is that?
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>>128972260
I'd say draw Vet General since she's the only good waifu but the other female units probably need the art more than anyone.

Hopefully you don't draw disgusting inflata-lips.
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>>128984223
Oh boy, did someone say inflata-lips?
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>>128985687
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>>128662795
When plasma was kill and they lost manaburn meaning they can't get good trades for shit and auto-lose vs vanar and high-value must silence decks, like vet or abyss.
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>>128779085
>Lyonar
>Better than vanar
????
When
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>>128987591
>abyss
>must silence
wat
Abyss has such shitty targets I blow mine on their jaxi plays.
I mean sure in theory Shadow Watchers and Vorpals and shit need a dispel but no one runs anything but burn abyss past gold. Certainly not gonna gate Magmar out of S-rank because of Abyss.
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>>128919685
>>128917803
>>128917643
Someone has to fix vanarhipsters.
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>>128987764
>Anime
>Is retarded
Why it's always true?
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>>128988026
post rank

I have literally not seen anything but burn abyss in S-rank. What the fuck do you dispel in burn? Shadow Reflection? What do they play Reflection on that survives a turn?
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>>128988201
Jaxi and revenant have to be silenced ASAP or it's pretty much insta-lose.
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>>128988318
I said dispel Jaxis. Revanent is not played in all Burn decks. Their effect is very relevant but not dispel or lose. Often times the damage has already been done by the time you can react to them anyways.
Just third wish them

Post rank.
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>>128988618
You post rank.

hell, go ahead and say how magmar isn't basically pre-buff vanar tier (or worse) now, so we all can have a laugh.
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>>128988719
I didn't say they weren't shit. I said that Abyss isn't a must-silence faction. I said that their inability to dispel vs Abyss isn't going to be what keeps them out of S-rank.

Against Vet it sure as fuck will. Nerfed Plasma Storm against Vanar sure as fuck will. But against Abyss Earth Sphere keeps them in the game better than Vet.

Post rank.
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>>128989116
Good point, might have jumped the good there.

Also earthsphere doesn't do that much vs abyss. Also plasma is useless at 5 mana.
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What's the most fun faction?
I kind of like Abyssian and Songhai but Abyssian seems shit and Songhai seems like a OP one-trick-pony
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>>128989116
Oh hey, you're the guy who gave me some advice about vet a few days ago. Meanwhile I dusted cards from factions I don't want to play and crafted some vet stuff.

I'm out of dust for now but I'm always glad to get comments on how to improve. It's a bit frustrating that I'm oscillating around rank 11 and I just can't manage to get a long enough win streak to get into 10.
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>>128989816
Here's the older deck list for comparison.
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>>128989816
People told you last time that Mirage Master is really bad. Way too slow with not enough targets in the meta floating around. Realistically the best you can hope for is a TW'd Saberspine but that's the dream situation right there.

Staff of Y'Kir is also pretty questionable. Doesn't do enough to justify its slot.

Pryomancer is very risky but can be a rewarding card to play. Up to you to gauge if it's worth it or not. Most Vets don't like to take that big a risk on their tempo that early in the game so she doesn't see too much play but there's really nothing "bad" about it.

Starfire Scarab and Dancing Blades are both good pauper cards for now. Just be ready to phase them out when you can. I'd say, if you can, add Dancing Blades over Scarab. Having an immediate effect on the board is a big deal, especially at 5 mana. Not a big deal but it's just what I'd do. Scarab can be very powerful tempo as well and with Maelstrom you don't have to worry about it not being able to get into position but in the mid-game the unreactable 3-damage wins games.

Otherwise I'd say you're pretty solid. Another Third Wish. Another Aymara (though some people prefer 2 so up to you). Rasha's is pretty important so look out for those.

Feel free to add me if you want to ask about minor stuff. You wouldn't be the first.
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>>128990679
Thanks for the feedback.

I'm starting to see why you're against Mirage Master. More often I have nothing worthwile to copy, since cards with powerful opening gambits don't profit from it. For now the staff and the mirage master are more of "I don't have anything to put in in their stead" cards. I need to find cards that at least have some presence o nthe board. Hell, I might just put in two golems for them instead.

Long term plan is to craft a third wish and two rasha's curse.
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Why can't you dispel stun?
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>>128992259
I'd say two golems is preferable. Don't have any 2- or 3-drops to replace the Y'Kir with?

>>128993050
It's shit enough as it is.
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Is there any talks of a mobile client?
It's where I get most of my Hearthstone play and I'm looking for a solid alternative when I get annoyed with it.
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>>128993050
because being stunned isn't magic just like you can't dispel damage away.

>>128993556
Sooner or Laterâ„¢
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Whens Jaxi nerfs
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Is it worth deranking until I hit rank 20 again? Been playing a couple of days and almost hit Gold.

Is Gold full of netdeckers with legendary cards?
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>>128993136
Removed both of them and the scarab. It's kinda slow and the instant 3 damage worked better, as you've pointed out.

I've put in a single rust crawler, a dancing blade and a golem. Rust crawler as a poor man's excuse for rasha's curse. Because fuck songhai for stacking their annoying artifacts.
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>>128995943
Gold is easy, diamond is where the strong decks are
At least that's my experiences
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>>128995943
Being in gold can sometimes match you against diamond/S-rank people so expect to get run over every now and then.
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How is the f2p experience in this?
Is it feasible to amass enough currency to build a solid meta deck?
I'm assuming it's going to take awhile before I get the hang of the game though so if it takes 2 weeks of steady playing that's fine
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>>128998496
The game is very generous with the rarer cards compared to other TCGs. You'll do alright.
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>>128987919
None of these are accurate. Only Magmar is half lizardfags god you just reminded me of an old autist I used to play with who was fucking obsessed with lizards, and Songhai is more like the pic you used for Vet.
Vet and Vanar don't really have any stereotypes, and Abysshits and stall-DB Lyonar are like pic related
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>>128999592
Neat. I think I'll start playing this then. Thanks anon.
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>>128998496
New player here, so far the game has thrown gold and cards at me two days straight. I built some cheap abyssian deck (which apparently is one of the weakest factions atm) with only commons and rares after leveling up the basic decks to lvl 11 (for the free pack each) and I just now reached rank 10 from rank 30 which is gold division if I'm not mistaken (still climbing rather fast).
Legendaries apparently have a 1 in 4 chance of appearing in a pack (Hearthstone for comparison is 1 in 20). I've got plenty of epics too.
So far this game is making me think I got ripped off hard wasting my time playing Hearthstone.
Looking at the current wo top tier decks, they're much more expensive than my current deck obviously, I can't tell you how long it'll take you for one. Probably much faster than in Hearthstone though, that's for sure.
My point though is that you don't need one to rank up, and by the time you hit a wall in ranked you should have the means of crafting a better deck.
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>>128999592
>>128999685
Fuck, forgot pic
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>>128999741
>So far this game is making me think I got ripped off hard wasting my time playing Hearthstone

Pretty much this. Blizzard gets away with so much shit because Hearthstone is the biggest online card game.
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>>128999685
Vanar/Vet shitter spotted.

This was before magmar was kill and third wish was changed, back then vetshitters where very smug fedora-style shitposters and vanars where basically played by 99.999% hipsters.

Magmars are 100% gay lizards ,anyone saying they're not is in the closet.
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>>128999741
Don't believe the memers. Abyssian is fine right now. Can close the game very fast without a whole lot you can do.
The main issue for them is there's only one viable build and the build in question isn't what attracts most people to the faction in the first place. Every Abyssian fan I've talked to for now basically wants it to be either a token spam deck or something akin to black control. Instead you get bR aggro.

But then Vet's got a similar problem going on right now. I can't imagine anyone wanted to play the faction for their buffs alone. Now it's a pure aura deck. If they didn't have Time Maelstrom and the best aesthetic and soon the best general then I'd have jumped ship by now.
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>>129000757
Songoloid spotted.

I play Magmar for the stupid earth magic thematic, not the lizards.
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>>129001104
>I-it's f-for the e-earth magic!!
>I-it's b-be-because they're tier 1!

not this is why you play Magmar:
"Bowser is my husbando" and "I want to have 2 lizard dicks pump eggs into me"
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>>129000971
My cheap abyssian deck is an aggro one, because I quickly realized token spam and the area denial thing are just useless compared to the bullshit the other classes can pull out of their ass in a few turns. The only way to win is to beat them before they draw the bullshit.
Not what I expected when I chose the faction that attracted me most, you're right.
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>Hearthstone e-celebrities are playing Duelyst

Nice. Maybe this game will get more popular..
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>>129001441
Holy fuck you're autistic. Still assmad about getting cucked by Makantors?

Hang yourself with your entrails, Songoloid. You're the fucking cancer of this game.
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>>129001921
Ayyy.

Gaymars are the worst, buttholes are too lose to backstab effectively.
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>>129001836
lman you wish. They're all being paid to play it.
>>128999592
Only at the start. After that it's >>128904139
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>>129002154
>oh no my shitty ignorance of board position means I get cucked by magmar
>better make a joke about how I can't fuck them from behind myself
>m-magmars are gay, not me!
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>>129003109
>Be gay furry
>Come to /a/nime board
>H-HO-HONNEEEYYY!!! THE WEEBS ARE BEING MEAN!!! T-THEY S-SAID MY FURSONA IS SHIT
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>>129003209
>be edgey 12yo faggot
>come to /dyg/
>h-hey g-guys magmar is gay right? just because I like fucking people from behind d-doesn't make me gay!
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>>129003580
>This fucking ass ravished fagmarite
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>>129003698
>songoloid projecting this hard
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>>128993050
because stun is literally just exhaust and you can't dispel that
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I want the memes to go.

I'd rather the thread be dead than this filled with shitposting.
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>>129002413
How is the disenchanting system? Better than Hearthstone's? Is there one?
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>>129003926
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>>129004231
The game copies almost all of hs' features. The only different thing is the board
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>Amaz plays Duelyst
>Keeps misplaying
>I'm still learning the game
>Deck full of legendary cards

The shilling is strong
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>>129006098
What's his rank?
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>>129006830

5.
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>>129006970
Huh, seems like he's been playing a lot. Is he enjoying it?
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>>129006098
>there's no way I can use this third wish now#
>cycles it
>gets tiger
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>>129007286
This shit happens to me a lot. Either I get the hand filled with third wish or I don't draw a buff in the whole game. It's the songhai syndrome.
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>get to diamond
>exact same decks over and over again
This is what kills card games.
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>>129008737
Well the game is early in it's lifecycle. People expect too much. Yu-gi-oh has been around for 20 fucking years, magic twice that.

You will start seeing different decks withing a faction once we get enough cards, pure and simple.
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>>129008737
That's kind of a given with a small card pool, some combinations of decks are just bound to be better
Of course it's emphazised by the swing-heavy gameplay they're aiming for
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>>129008737
they should add more build-around cards for the johnny type players desu
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>>129009503
>implying larger card games actually have better variety of top tier decks
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>>129010019
Let's say it like this: a large card pool is a requirement for deck diversity, buit it doesn't guarantee deck diversity, you also need to balance them well, and have plenty of situational cards to build decks around
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>turn 3 Keeper of the Vale into Chaos Elemental
>turn 4 Keeper of the Vale into Chaos Elemental
>turn 5 Keeper of the Vale into Jaxi
I'm fucking dying
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>>129011086
Can't wait for the nerfs
I haven't even played much this season, it's just too dumb. I'm going to rush to 10 in the last week and that's it.
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I got my first friend request into "Fuck you for having legendaries" PM.

Is bringing in the HS crowd really good for this game?
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I have a magmar quest.
I have no cards, just the basics, and will use all of them.
What neutrals should I use, which are useless?
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>>129012921
No.
Last patch + giving streamers money to stream this game=HS2.0
Get ready for more rng this month
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http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?action=random
Roll a random magic card. Would it be good in Duelyst?
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>>129013247
>Smegmar quest
reroll.
They're vanar tier.
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>>129013313
I fucking wish.
We need more johnny cards
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>>129013450
I think I've not yer reached level 11, using this opportunity to get the orb.
I'll just put 2 dispels, 2 jaxi and some heal as neutrals and hope to ge it done fast.
On a side note, how much do I have to play into a game for it to make me progress the quest?
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>>129013659
5 guys iirc
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>>128586235
>/hsg/ fag, played since naxx
>decide to check out the duelyst general to see what this shit is all about
>read this and associated posts

Welp, into the trash it goes I guess, glad I didn't waste my time and can stick with my popular f2p ccg that I already have all of the important cards in.
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>>129014989
Good, and stay gone is shitposing on /vg/ of all places is going to convince you not to play.

Not to mention I don't think there's a person hwere who said this game isn't better than Goystone anyway the (you) is free.
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It's been a whole week with orbs like these. In fact this is a good one, it's got 3 blues unike my typical 4 white cards. Adding stuff like keeper, jaxi and aggro after aggro every game I'm getting burned of this game.
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>>129016228
Despair made me forget my pic.
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>>129016228
>>129016449
OK lad, here's the deal. I am a HUUUUUGE WC 3 fan. Still play it today.
I am ALSO a TCG fan. I bought into Blizz bullshit and started playing Heartstone.
two months later, god knows how many packs, and I got no Legendary cards.

Not to mention Warr was getting skullfucked anytime a good strategy for him appeared.

Here in a week I've gotten 6 legendaries, including 3rd Wish and a Hexblade (And Rook, Mirkbllod Devourer, Black Locust), not to mention some good epics like Blastfire Ankh and stuff like Memefox etc (Disenchanted everything not Abby or Vet). Just keep at it. The rates are just as much of bullshit as HS, but the gold comes easier, and you even get free cards every month based off rank (not to mention that it's easy to get into Gold).

There's going to be good packs and bad packs, but trust me, you are not likely to just be getting shit here (not ot mention Hailstone, 4 Winds, Razorback and Arclyte are actually all good cards), unlike in some other games.
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>>129013609
That one songhai card kind of works.
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>>129013313
Anyone with a rush minion > Anyone without

No matter which faction you give this to, it's OP
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>>129017973
Juxtapose? Totally different in every way, what?
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>>129017973
I meant that if you had that card, you could use hamon bladeseeker
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>>129019937
I alread use hamon though. It's always fun to play with her and kage my nigga.
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