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But can any servant defeat EMIYA?
And I'm not talking about Shirou Emiya. No, I'm not talking about Servant Archer EMIYA. Hell, I'm not talking about Counter Guardian EMIYA either.
I'm talking about Counter Guardian EMIYA with infinite Prana (which is capable of Unlimited Blade Works with Excalibur, Avalon and EA), his two original Kansho and Bakuya (which grant him magic resistance, STR, AGI, MGI and Monster slayer buffs) and infinite swords from his back (capable of using Caladbolg, Hrunting, Rho Aias, Gae bolg, Caliburn, Nine lives and even the whole Gate of Babyloni(capable of using ea and Enuma Elish) and a Arodnight because he is a master in swords, a perfect Excalibur (that can use Avalon), control of both Saber and Rin , with Dark Sakura Matou shadow and face implanted on his chest, his four Clones from all routes guarding him and Berserker with Nine Lives floating behind him AFTER he absorbed 7 servants from the First Holy grail, entered Archetype Earth Mode, call the Types from the stars on everybody and used Unlimited Blade works: infinite creation of swords so he can use their weapons while they are under even more swords.
I SEND MY SCOURGE
I SEND MY SWORD
THUS SAITH THE LORD
Hope he'll get released alongside Ozy.
The real question is, will Martha's purity remain intact when he appears?
I read in some thread that Nasu said if Jesus theoretically were ever summoned the entire world would be his reality marble.
Don't know anything about the accuracy of that statement though.
Jesus Saver would be the most powerful thing we've seen in any Type Moon work, but he would almost never display the power he has. Only something pure evil or catastrophic towards humans would goad him into showing his real power.
I'm sorry anonymous.
You have a terminally ill case of shit taste.
Illya should have summoned Kiyohime and let her wreck shit.
What would Moses be like as a Servant?
I imagine he would fit a Ruler class the best, but otherwise he could be a Caster I guess. What would his Noble Phantasm be? Summoning the Red Sea? Waterbending?
Daughteru tier list:
Mordred >Jack > Nursery Rhyme >>>> Alex > Shit >>>> Liz
>Basically Prince of Egypt.
So the Egyptian Gods did nothing? as expected from the real UNRIVALED
Anti Army Red Sea attack. Like Proto-Gil. And Anti-Humanity Plague. All the while being backed up by the counter force.
Moses is in the same light as Abraham when Jesus mentions them, technically he should be greater than Solomon
>hates you and wants you dead
>Red Sea parting
Sounds like the 2nd most OP Christian Servant after Jesus.
>deathly afraid of some tattooed kid
So he'd have three NPs:
A magical stick Snake
Recreating the Plagues.
And an ability to split anything to allow him passage to the other side of it.
Sounds pretty fucking op.
>I'm saying he will be better but not that better. Even if he is retarded, he still gained a boost from ME, boost he won't have under any other class. Right now you think Archer Herc would be one of the strongest, but I can guarantee he won't be that good in reality and even worse now with all the powercreep. 100% sure he would be below Arjuna.
ME is supposed to be a tool to make weak Servants half-decent. Heracles is so stupidly powerful that adding more to his stats is essentially pointless.
Consider what kind of shit Heracles gets up to and what that means for his collection of Noble Phantasms on top of the kind of power he already has. (Remember, the guy held up the sky for Atlas without much problem.)
>Nemean Lion's hide makes him practically invulnerable on top of Godhand
>Nine Lives is strong enough to shatter the axe-sword and is so poisonous that all the fish in the river Herc washed his arrows in became inedible
>A golden sword was given to him by Athena that he used to cut off the hydra's immortal last head
>He founded the Olympic Games (I don't know how that would make an NP, but it probably could somehow.)
>Helios gave Herc his golden chariot after Herc shot an arrow at the sun
Plus, he's one of the craftiest heroes there is. His stories have as much to do with trickery and wit as they do with strength. Which is also lost as Berserker.
He would underestimate her for being a weak little girl (which she is), and then she would turn into a fucking dragon and kill him.
She is probably one of the best servants for making Gil lower his guard and make him lose due to his arrogance.
>implying she didn't get over the hate in Apocrypha
>implying she wasn't Tsundere towards daddy in London
She top daughter material now senpai
I swear DW will pull some shit and make Avenger a 1* gold card
She is just going through puberty. Everytime she says she hates me, I know she actually means she loves me.
What is this supposed to be bait?
>(Remember, the guy held up the sky for Atlas without much problem.)
Let's be mythologically accurate here, that was the hardest thing he ever accomplished.
However, in greek mythology the celestial sphere (body of Ouranos) is the equal of the earth (body of Gaia), so it's no mean feat at all.
In some alternate universe, the church hosts holy grail wars for fun with the pope and Jesus as refs.
Lets say you got selected as a participant. Who would you pick as your servant? Bible onry.
How would they manifest as NPs though? I see them being a Personal Skill that grants Moses bonuses against Servants who break the Ten Commandments, but pretty much every Servant out there is credited with murder or some kind of horrific cuckery.
She needs to relieve the stress the gacha causes.
>samefagging your own bait
Samson, Abraham, Elijah and Cain.
No, I'll go for their daughter Henuttawy instead. She didn't have any husbands to my knowledge so she could possibly be pure and judging by who her parents are she would definitely by a wonderful woman.
>dragons aren't good at killing jobbers they say
>Crocea Mors: Yellow Death (黃の死, Ki no Shi) is the golden sword of Gaius Julius Caesar, endowed with an ability in close-range combat that makes victory assured from the moment he sees the enemy, but he personally does not feel like drawing the sword.
Wait, that thing had instawin powers all along?
Better start rolling that gacha if that's the case. Let the anger overflow you.
Nero aka whore of Babylon. Actually I would probably summon the Dragon from the Apocalypse. Hydra can be a Servant so I don't see why the dragon can't.
>Kintoki themed day for nips in twitter.
I'm loving all this new art of him.
But Gil beats Liz three times in CCC while Liz only beats him once.
Hakuno is the one who can handle everyone
>Gilfags are full damage control
Where's the anti-dragon weapons?
That's Gil for you.
>Archer Gil: shoots stuff
>Saber Gil: shoots swords
>Lancer Gil: shoots spears
>Caster Gil: shoots magic swords
>Rider Gil: shoots spaceships
>Assassin Gil: shoots knives
>Berserker Gil: shoots harder
>stating what happened in CCC is going full damage control
>even if that Servant you want more than anything will be released, he/she will most likely be a Gold Servant and thus nigh unobtainable with the constantly growing pool of golds
>thus you'll have to buy an alt for your waifu or husbando
This gacha is so horribly bad that there's no realistic chance of getting what you want.
>Hakuno is the one who can handle everyone
That's a given.
>—Space is stretching. Ahead of us lies the point of “origin,” stripped of all ornament, all physicality. The farthest point that became the cause of the birth of the entity known as Gilgamesh, at which the entity known as Gilgamesh will ultimately arrive. In other words, zero.
>Gilgamesh :: This is as far as I can see you. What lies ahead is a man who lived wild, not yet knowing death.
>Gilgamesh’s previously perfectly clear voice is breaking up. I suppose as we get closer and closer to that point, the “present” Gilgamesh will no longer be able to intervene.
>Gilgamesh :: I have no words to exchange with bare divinity. Crush it completely.
>…stronger than the sound of the world’s pulse. This is — the form of the origin, unknown even to Gilgamesh —!
He didn't get BTFO at stronger form of himself I-I swear!
Berserker Heracles is already powerful enough that Nasu had to asspull his death in Fate. This isn't my being salty, Nasu himself is on record saying that "miracle" was stupid. This is without his wits, skill, or offensive Noble Phantasms.
He's also on record as the greatest Greek hero.
But really, I don't care about him being "broken." I just want him to be 5* and a total bro. Which he should be.
>Gilfags getting told
>hurr it's the jetfags
You faggots aren't any better than them.
There's nothing wrong with that, but prepare to be shitposted at by people who take legitimate offense to the point of screaming and shouting in rage in real life at the thought of someone liking a fictional character more than THEIR favorite fictional character.
Don't pretend you aren't almost as bad as him, you disgusting gilfag. Jetfag may be the the autist to shit up this general more than anyone else but you cancerous faggots have been an insufferable plague since day one.
It's okay anon, Autism can be treated.
>Nasu had to asspull his death in Fate
Stop being this delusional.
>Nasu himself is on record saying that "miracle" was stupid
A+ Caliburn can do it and he never said the miracles was stupid. He even further explained what happened with Saber Lily Caliburn entry.
>This is without his wits, skill, or offensive Noble Phantasms.
But with ME boosted stats. Stats boosts are a big deal.
>No one doing anything Gilfaggy in the thread
>Sudden influx of people from literally nowhere screaming about how Gilfags are cancer and destroying the thread
You can like whoever you want, anon.
>The jetfag is awake
Take care faggots, I'll be back in 12 hours when he goes back to sleep.
>Stop being this delusional
He's right though, Herc's death was literally a product of bad writing since Nasu probably realized too late how fucking broken he made Herc, so he just came up with Caliburn being able to take 7 lives
I'm sorry anons I think I triggered the jetfag with >>128126682
Post cute Gilgamesh pictures.
No Gilshitters, you people are just as shit as your boogeyman and that's a fact. Get the fuck out, nobody likes you faggots. >>128127313
Gilgamesh and Enkidu are cute! CUTE!
>tfw my entire front line is made up of top tier servants
I almost feel bad for all of you faggots fighting over which of your S tier trash is less trash than the others.
How are you fuckers so fast
Reminder: Liz and Saber both dragon attributes shat all over Gil
Gilfags: BUT MUH TANGENTS AND STRAWMEN
>A big deal
>Repeatedly stated that the most important facet of Servant battles is between Noble Phantasms.
>Einzberns explicitly summoned him as a Berserker knowing he'd be gimped because they valued loyalty over power
>He already has A or better in everything but Luck anyway, and even that's just at B
>1st skill makes you choose if you want damage boost or Jack to live
>2nd skill literally only useful 1 in 20 fights
>3rd skill HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>0,9 assassin modifier
She's shit and definitely not in the higher end of 5 star servants. I had the misfortune of pulling her and she's nothing special outside of her stargen
Literally proof that you fuckers are as bad as them. You are saying the same stupid shit.
>we dindu nuffin others started
>muh bad interpretation so I can wank Gilshit
>ignores poll because muh rigging
Jack is top tier, on the same level as Drake and Kintoki according to the nips.
Jack being anything less than perfect was a meme invented by /fgog/ to comfort themselves after failing to roll loli butt.
Jack is shit at everything outside making stars, killing riders (which carmillia does just as well) and sorta doing okay damage against females.
Shes nowhere near comparable to okita since okita actually has damage with her deck and self-sufficient skills.
Jack is and always will be nothing more than a support whos not self sufficient which is made worse by her horrid skills and the fact other servants such as okita can do jacks role just as well.
She barely does 90k against a female rider m8. She barely hits 50~k against non-rider females.
Have you even used the servants you meme about?
Unless you're talking about np brave chain than no jack is not going to one shot every female.
Shit list. This one is far better and it's actually objective.
st skill makes you choose if you want damage boost or Jack to live
To be honest it's better than just a damage boost or one-turn evade since you can choose which effect you want. And it's not like DW could make them separate cause only 3 skill slots.
>trash skills outside her first (yes rule breaker second skill is shitty and very situational)
>trash stats due to assassin mod
>trash deck unless you need the stars badly
>did I mention trash damage
The only things jack does well is making stars and charging np decently fast.
Can we make a list of a telltale signs of a redditor that needs to go back to r/grandorder and/or r/gotrades
>refers toScathach as anything besides Scat or Thighs sensei
>account seller or trader
>defends the game's jewish purposes
>anti cheat apk
>calls Kirei le black keys man
>every relevant enemy is genderless or male
>most gold Servants are female
>every gold Rider is female
And even then she's still your best Servant against endless waves of dragons. Her best competition, Carmilla ALSO has anti-Female on her NP so it's not like you can get away from it.
>Gil 7.5 when he's the best Archer
Gilshit is 7.5 because he is shit. It's funny how you are bitching about him being placed in the rank he deserves, not realizing other trash tier like Orion and Tamamo are also placed where they deserve.
The list is good but you are a Gilfag so you don't like it.
Why is the Gilfag spamming the thread with images nobody gives a shit about? I doubt even the jetfag has gone that low, I have never seen him spam Lancelot pictures like this when someone told him to fuck off.
>within a minute
>must be gilfag samefagging xd
>jets never spams images
You clearly weren't here when jetfag spammed images from the vn hating on herkfags when he was told to fuck off
He never was. Arturia was always better.
More like he is always 7.5.
Yeah, you clearly never used her.
>effective 10401 ATK
>higher than any caster.
>higher than Saber Alter, Lancer Alter, Liz
>higher than any non-Berserker 4*
>higher than Jeanne
>second skill is a free rule breaker
>high damage single target NP that is boosted by her first skill
>same base per-hit NP build as Okita Souji, same amount of Quick hits as her, too, except her extra hits more, and she has one more quick in exchange for one less buster, meaning she has more reliable NP build than someone praised for their absurd NP gain.
>first skill is a Prana Burst, you're retarded if you're using it purely for the survivability.
>most strong enemy servants in the game are female anyway, all good riders are.
>25.2% star gen, more than double Okita's 10%, and Presence Concealment on top of this
i love this meme
I rather have that as I can filter it unlike Gilshit images.
>You clearly weren't here when jetfag spammed images from the vn hating on herkfags
I said Lancelot images you retarded Gilfag, can't you even read? Well you are indeed a Gilfag so I doubt you can. If you did you wouldn't be a Gilfag.
>you believe evil cat can't really be evil
>follow her back to her place for footrace and chill
>find Artemis waiting
>Artemis frees evil cat from her vow of chastity
>Artemis watches giddily as you're raped by an evil cat in heat
>You serve as evil cat's mating partner for the rest of eternity
Are you implying that one of Type-Moon's most popular characters only has one fan that would be browsing /fgog/?
>you've clearly never used her
Now post proof yourself since I seriously think you're just shitposting if you've used jack and still think shes top tier.
Delusional cancer that refuses to accept he is cancer and tries to push his shit inside other people's throats.
>Anon says something that is true
>I don't agree with it so you are a newfag
This image spamming has never happened with jetfags. If you are so certain of it then feel free to look in the archives and post proof here.
Damn, this thread was pretty comfy to begin with.
Back then no one knew that it would take almost a year for Attila to get her NP upgrade. And Jeanne was god tier back then, since she could singlehandedly carry us through quests our underleveled servants stood no chance in.
>higher attack than 4* units and casters who are literally the lowest
Yeah you sure showed us anon.
>reliterating that jack is only good for stars, np charge and female riders like some anons previously mentioned
Yeah you sure showed us anon
Jack is mediocore m8, face the facts and don't let your daughteru goggles blind you
>Still not really sure what I'm doing half the time
>16 green cubes whatever the fuck that means
>Buy the New Year bag
>99 FP spins
>Shouta Iskander with the first ten
I am satisfied with this lot in life.
I also got Hassan so that's neat.
Yeah, I'm not really seeing any drawbacks, there.
The three 4*s you mentioned also all have charisma, giving them more effective attack.
Also, cost is still an issue in higher end teams, which is why Attila being slightly better than Saber alter (which is still debatable) isn't good enough.
More like he had very high base damage and also made more crit stars than any other 4 or 5 star. Gil was top tier before the crit change, but it made his biggest strength less notable.
Enjoy your innocence while it lasts. Suffering and madness lies ahead.
congrats for being really bad at the game, I guess?
No, Jack is very good for single target damage in general considering how fast she gains her NP gauge.
I never said she's top tier, she's on the high mid end of 5*s, NP spam against single targets alone makes her better than most no synergy 5*s. She's significantly better than shit like Mordred, Altera, Tamamo, but she's not top 3.
>oh no late response, totally btfo!!
If you have a maxed Jack and still think she's bad, I don't know what to tell you. She's by far and out the best generator in the game and pretty much the only generator that can actually work with two crit users. congrats on being really bad at a mobage, I guess?
You're clearly either a newfag or the jetfag himself, otherwise you'd know that nobody hates the jetfag because he likes Lancelot. They hate him because he's OBSESSED with Lancelot, and the idea that he is the strongest of all Servants, to the point that he blindly hates and shits on all other characters in the franchise, and the people who like them, for daring to suggest that the UNRIVALED may not be as powerful as them.
Quit being such a faggot and lurk before you post.
First max ascended 3 star
I didn't say it was because he likes Lancelot. I said one obnoxious poster that posts Lancelot has triggered all of you to the point that you see pictures of certain Servants and start shitting yourselves in fear and anger. You could just ignore the fucking shitposters instead of enabling them.
She is top-tier though. I was using her with Okita, and Drake, and she was generating more crit stars than my Okita, and her NP gain was nuts. Better than my Nobunaga in that comp, at least.
Jetfags, achillesfags and gilfags are all extremely obnoxious.
Jetfags have their KoH and EaM meme along with attacking other fanbases, being delusional, boogeyman crying and finally misrepresenting all their own arguments whilst ignoring others. Finally jetfags suffer from the non-acceptance of there being better ingame servants and the fact their servant is only good for farming dailies
Gilfags suffer from being easily baited by the equally obnoxious gilhaters. They also suffer from being delusional enough to think gilgamesh really deserves his good alignment as well as being insane powerlevel shitposters against anyone and everyone. Finally gilfags suffer from believing their servants ingame ability is somehow better than it is (hes extrememly average with everything except his below average np due to no interlude).
Achillesfags suffer from cosmos/speed wanking and can't seem to accept author's own words that hes weaker than herakles. They are also easily baited as shown in the fanfic.
Jetfag isn't the only cancer here in these threads.
Most of us DO ignore him, faggot, or haven't you noticed that the amount of responses the jetfag gets has dropped drastically over the months?
Besides that, you're aiming your shitposting in entirely the wrong direction if that's seriously your complaint, considering posting a single image of Gilgamesh is enough to get a dozen responses of
>7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5
>This beetle I found under my bed can handle Gilgamesh by himself!
From him over the course of twenty minutes.
Why do most people prefer Arturia over Medusa when Medusa is so much better?
>everyone who doesn't agree with my delusional ass is a newfag
No, just no. I'm not him but I have been here since the before Gil was released. You have been trying to push this retarded shit for a while, saying that anyone who doesn't think like you is either the jetfag or a newfag. You are as bad as him with his anti-jet faggotry.
>and the idea that he is the strongest of all Servants
This is a blatant lie. You should stop trying to make shit up thinking everyone is as new as you are. Your boogeyman has accepted in the past that he knows a bunch of Servants that can beat Lancelot.
>still no proof that he actually owns jack and knows what hes talking about
Nice meme, either post proof or fuck off.
At least the anon you're arguing with actually backs up his shit unlike you lolishitter.
>I command you with this Command Spell!!
>The two of you flirt right no-
>They're flirting away even without my command. I'm so thankful~ How great!! I don't need to use my Command Spell~!!
>? Why is Gudao looking so weird?
>Senpai does this pretty often, don't worry about it.
>Your boogeyman has accepted in the past that he knows a bunch of Servants that can beat Lancelot.
Except if he doesn't like the servant then he just pretends said servant can't beat Lancelot. Stop trying to defend the cancer
The funniest ones are when he's tried to start shit for an hour without any responses and he suddenly goes
>Wow, another thread ruined by gilfags. They're trying really hard to become the worst fanbase.
>7.5 posting must be the jetfag guys
Holy autism. Bitch, did you just fucking ignore the poll posted earlier? NOBODY LIKES YOU FAGGOTS, SIMPLE.
It's not people being the jetfags, it's you faggots being as bad as they are.
I don't care what rank Gil is. I like him because of his absurd personality and the fact that no matter how strong he is, he'll always lose thanks to being too smug for his own good. He's like a dumb kid and I find that endearing.
>Hasn't actually used a servant yet tries to argue about her and that he knows everything about how great she is WHEN HE HASN'T EVEN USED HER
You are fucking retarded.
Why did I even try talking logic with you when your bias lets you see no flaws.
> ... How foolish of him
>Just because we called him by name, just because of that
>Just for that he was willing to die
>Because we used Asterios, not Minotaurus
>The reason why he bet on his death to save us...
>Really, just because of that.
>And so, for the Euryale in despair, I raised an Asterios to NP MAX in Chaldea!
>FP Summon is the beeeeest!!
If there was a button I could press to destroy the computers and phones of every powerlevel faggot that comes to this general and prevent them from ever accessing the internet again, I would break it from slamming it too hard.
>Stop trying to actually tell others how shit actually is, leave me alone let me post my lies
While your point is true, that doesn't mean he has ever argued that Lancelot is the strongest Servant that can't be beaten.
Gilfags have been crying about boogeymans too. Otherwise this is pretty accurate.
Spoken like a true lion lover. I bet you touch yourself to the thought of her purring lovingly into your ear as you fill her evil womb with semen, you freak.
Because that's what I do.
>that doesn't mean he has ever argued that Lancelot is the strongest Servant that can't be beaten.
You're arguing semantics. He doesn't admit that Servants can beat Lancelot because they can, he admits it because he likes them. If he doesn't like them he buries his head in the sand and ignores all proof to the contrary, screaming at the top of his lungs that they could never defeat Lancelot and anyone who says otherwise is just a faggot spouting his headcanon, blissfully and horrifyingly oblivious to the hypocrisy of that statement.
Not him, but why do you think she's bad? What servant doesn't have flaws? Her consistency with NP spam/star gen is amazing.
The Asterios/Euryale comic I posted got translated so it's all good for me.
Still trying to push this meme? No, I'm probably older than you around here. Do you know about the guy that studied cinematography and had objective taste? Because I can guarantee you don't even know about that one, that's how new you are.
He hasn't done it, if he did he wouldn't have accepted there are Servants that can beat Lancelot to begin with.
>level 2 np
>support so he only rarely uses her and lets the rarity of it convince him of how good she is
>doesn't actually own her
>level 2 np
Not that anon but do you really see no issue with what you've posted?
The thread is actually useable for me now.
>that's how new you are
You're either defending the jetfag because you're actually him or you're just delusional
>Because I can guarantee you don't even know about that one, that's how new you are.
>This level of pretentiousness
The only reason you remember that guy is because you ARE that guy, now fuck off.
Can you all just stop posting about Xfags and anti-Xfags? How fucking hard is it?
Original dude here.
Shes extremely lackluster even with a IA equipped. Maybe level 2 noble phantasm is different but she will rarely break 60k on females and rarely over 95k with female riders.
Her only good traits is her stargen and her np qq first skill active brave chain that deals over 130k to females and gets 40~% np and 50+ stars.
In everything else from raw stats to damage to skills to everything else, shes kinda mediocore.
Like I originally sad, shes mid tier, shes nowhere near high tier much less top tier.
Original dude screaming jack is top tier seems gone so I'll stop arguing about this I guess.
I don't know, but now I want to find out.
B-but I'm a feetfag.
Fair enough. I have a team that meshes well with her so I just think she's really good.
I say, good sir, we Atalantafags are a noble breed
We don't bring up power levels, don't try to say our waifu is best Archer, or demand people respect her.
We are content to just fantasize about impregnating her and starting our own pride.
You need to prove to him you are ROMA enough.
Being ROMA isn't easy
>Happy New Year
>For your New Year's gift, I'm giving you 100 Phoenix Plumes!
>Wow, thank you
>I'm giving you one year's supply of Chaos Talons
>And from me, Infinity Gears and my chastity
>Everyone's so kind! Now I can Ascend as much as I want!
>It's the best new year!
>Wake up, senpai. Let's go see the first sunrise together
I hope there's gonna be a St. Paddy's day event