/rorg/ - Return of Reckoning General

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1ST FOR SCOOPY

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1st for 40k > WHF

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>>127492653
>>127492629

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something-th for IBs a best

>>127492106
Both are great MDPS, Choppa does more raw damage but mara has way more utility.

If you are just going to solo then go mara for sure.

>>127492653
They all look evil as shit, and that red motherfucker?

how did the emperor not see it coming?

>>127493110
only fags play mara

>muh cool norse shape shifting warrior!

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So I've spent about a week lurking the forums and watching videos, and finally I think I decided to play Witch Elf.

Did I make a wrong choice? will I be punished for playing that instead of the more popular classes like kotbs/dok etc?

If I get the jump on someone I should be able to kill anyone right?

Also I'm a bit confused, since people say if you don't pvp you'll suck once you hit X rank or whatever, because you won't have renown to buy gear, so am I supposed to do "only" pvp? don't I need gold and stuff too? and if I'm only doing pvp when am I supposed to waste my currency on pvp gear? every 10 levels or what?

Sorry for the nub questions, any help or guidance appreciated.

>>127493947
>WE has the highest burst of any class on destro, however that doesn't mean just because you get the jump on someone they will die.

Only thing I can recommend is to play 1 class and stick with it. You are going to be food in t3 no matter what until you are level 32 and have at least stalker gear equipped.

>>127493947
Upgrade gear (from RR vendors) as soon as you can when leveling, you should have more than enough money from RvR kill quests.
If you're lacking money you can always do a few quick "Report to FAGBALLS" quests for 50-70s a pop.

> big decisive battle starts
> connection drops out for a full minute
> everyone dead because I couldn't heal them

videogames

>>127494748
Healers sure like to act more important than they really are.

>>127493947
WE is one of the best (if not the best, with outgoing AND incoming healdebuffs paired with silly levels of burst) primary assists in the game. You won't find much success in the assassin play style however, going without a Guard as melee is suicide outside of 1v1 ganking situations.
You will kill anyone except shield tanks if you jump them, however if someone with brains sees that you stealth you will probably have a very hard time to kill them (or more likely, get completely outclassed). A sure sign that you're dealing with such a player is if they hit you with AoE detaunt before you hit them with your opener (in general, good detaunt use is the sign of a non-braindead player).

>>127494901
this

>>127493274
They look like a nice group of guys to me

Wants the most tanky tank in the game? I just want to play something that never dies.

>>127496016
warrior priest

I don't know shit about WHF.
Are 40k orks and fantasy ones the same?

>>127497306

More or less

>>127497306
maybe

>>127497306
Yes, just less tech. Like exactly the same.

>>127497306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvY_fij9E8

>>127498153
Holy shit I didn't know this existed-

>Look at screenshots of WAR
>Immediately feel sleepy and have no desire to play video game ever again.

>>127500207
what

invite kingcrimson to order of the frog

>>127494879
Well when you've had a healer for all previous fights and you expect to be getting heals, then suddenly your healer is just standing there, p sure that throws people off.

>>127500207
too comfy?

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>>127502146
We voted on it and decided you are not Frog material.

WHERE IS MY FUCKING RECRUITER RANK LAE? >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>127504958
>not letting everyone recruit

>>127505603

Everyone can invite to guild

>>127505910
then invite me u nerd

Is there a reddit guild?

I'd like to infiltrate them and destroy them from the inside.

>>127507707


<Lords of the Locker Room> Destro
<Knights of the Frog> Order


;^)

>>127507808

>>127507808

>>127513371

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>>127513514
>>>
> Anonymous 01/04/16(Mon)22:26:42 No.1275135

does shitposting in advice chat make me a bad person?

>>127514378
only if you actually give advice

>>127514440
> giving advice

lol gay

>>127514440
lmao fuck advice desu

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>>127514440

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Grinding with mai waifu

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hot af tbhq senpai

>>127518231
>the fire rises

Any place a lvl 27 can grind while nothing is going on?

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>>127520975

>>127522027
http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1451377950072.webm

>>127523486
>FortSiege.webm

what class will let me go full call of duty and top all the SC boards with damage???

>>127524392
rune priest ;^)

>>127524392
Magus Sorc/BW Slayer

>>127524503
huh Slayer is melee tho, won't I get obliterated all the time?

WAAAGHH

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>>127526359
WUUUURRRRRRRHHNNNGGG

more like t2 rat farmhammer amirite?

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>>127527648

>>127528113
rats off to you gud sir ;-DDDDD

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oh shit nigga what am i doing

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Most unusual.

Whelp, I thought Witch Elf had perma stealth, not 30 second cooldown shit.

Damn what am i going to play now.

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RIP dest flight master

>>127530008
What are your other choices?

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>Age of Reckoning

oh fugg

downloadin

ded game
ded thread

Is Swordmaster shit? I can't stop rolling alts

>>127536813
No one can. Keep dicking around until you decide on one you like best.

I suck Chaos dicks.

>>127538471

Faggot

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>>127538687
yes, and? are you jelly empire kid? there's no one who would even touch you, huh?

Go and praise Sigmar or whatever you idiots do.

Could I get an invite to Order? name's Claes

How do you guys manage to play SM/BO with the latency issues? It doesn't feel like I can combo reliably at any time in a fight.

Maybe I'm just bad

>>127545137
What latency issues?

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>TFW guarding little baby dwarf slayers and taking them all the way to victory

>>127546957

>>127552436
Bump tits

>>127530008
Chopper

Tor Anroc has become my favorite SC for my IB.

Tor Anroc still sucks tho

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Finally found the ERP on this server

Is it acceptable to que for scenarios as a lvl 27 or will I get raged at?

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>>127565148
>Sanguinius isn't Sanders.
9/10

so I made a witch elf, got her naked, and tried to make her dance, but the system says "she refuses to do it"

any way to force her to dance? or is that just not implemented because devs were lazy?

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Oh myyyyy....

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Mighty dorfs, complete with elf floozy

nice server, very reliable ;^)

>>127569580
ding dong bannu

I rolled a sorceress, did I fuck up?

>>127570120
maybe, just reroll another class if you see 2 other sorcs at once

>>127570120
Do you have a pocket guard?
Do you like playing a caster in melee range?

If you answer yes to both these, continue on sorcing.

>>127570470
Seen lots of sorcs around
>>127570585
No
Yes

I seem to be doing fine, but there's something that I can't quite figure out.

Does the sorc have less range on his abilities than other casters?

>>127571737
Expert Skirmisher.

>>127571797
I mean Close Quarters, sorry. ES is the physical RDPS tactic that does the same.

server is dead, post butts

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>>127572680

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Don't make me post tumblrtale and fishfag to keep this thread alive

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>>127576307
what about crotch shots?

They really need to cut the population cap. Theres no point in having more players if the server shits itself.

>>127578214
The server doesnt shit itself unless there is a memory problem then you would see everyone screaming for reset in /advice.

The lag you experience is most likely tied to the zone itself when there are too many players there, just deal with it or que up for SC's.

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>>127578456
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WBs maneuvering and out flanking/routing destro.

feels good mane

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F A T A N I M E A S S E S

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>>127585778

>>127514142
How are you liking Engi?

>>127581268
I'm wondering, is there any class that's about scouting for information/1v1ing around before going back to the group?

>>127587430
no, but the "stealth" classes are WE/WH but don't expect them to play like traditional stealth classes.

Game has been in a shitty deathball + burst meta for the longest time. And scenarios aren't really competitive enough for certain roles like you mentioned to be even be useful.

>>127587649
alright then I'll just keep going as a caster, then, I don't mind the blob vs blob gameplay, but I would like it more if you could sometimes break it off to do some more tactical stuff, after all that's how you should be able to move forward the large battles.

>>127587918
To add on to what I said, newer players should stay far away from MDPS classes.

They are not that fun in ORvR, and require you to have both a guard and a healer to even do anything.

And if you want to get into tons of groups, roll a tank/healer, you are 90% more likely to find yourself in a outside guild group that way.

>>127563381
On most of these you have quite a few deaths. Does order not have decent healing at cap or are you just a glass cannon?

>>127590541
hes obviously building and speccing like an idiot

>>127587649
>deathball
>meta
>competitive
fuck off back to ASSFAGGOTS general

>>127590541
They have the best healing class in the game, and no one plays it. It's really more that my SM faggotry is known of at this point by both sides.

Kill Scoopy -> Win SC
Heal Scoopy -> Win SC

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>>127591539
D A M A G E C O N T O L
>DESTRO IS DMG TANKS :^(
D A M A G E C O N T O L
>DESTRO IS DMG TANKS :^(
D A M A G E C O N T O L
>DESTRO IS DMG TANKS :^(
D A M A G E C O N T O L
>DESTRO IS DMG TANKS :^(
D A M A G E C O N T O L
>DESTRO IS DMG TANKS :^(
D A M A G E C O N T O L
>DESTRO IS DMG TANKS :^(

>>127591976
Implying im wrong

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>>127598106
>implying
>implying without greentext
>implying im implying your wrong

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>>127600008
>8

What's a T1 gotta do for some sick gear?

>>127603982

PVP

>>127603982
Just spam SC's and use the emblems for your weps and the medallions from player kills for the 2pc gear then fill in with vendor gear.

>>127603982
>>127608498
The influence weapon isn't half bad while waiting for the emblems one.

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>>127610897

PATCH HYPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oSp77zlLzI

>>127567850
Why the fuck would sanguinius be sanders?

>>127614076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-lxPhGunU

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>>127614242

T4 is out!!

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>>127614076
>dat zettai ryoiki

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[muffled "ayy lmao" in the background]

>>127619498
gay

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>>127619716
DOING
GOD'S
WORK

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>>127622741
Absolutely heretical.

>>127622994

What class do you hate seeing more than any other?

A good WP/DoK drives me nuts. I feel like I can't kill them no matter what.

>>127627557

KOTBS

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WAAAGH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZsABnhm0ZA

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>>127630312
>1:32:12 fuck that shit n...
>Portals into the fourth dimension
...go on

>>127632173
get your 4th dimension game on lock

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>>127634637
>36 minutes in

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Good night /rorg/

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>>127635716
Goodnight anon

Finally hit t3 on order. Any of you online to invite me? Character name's Zegreiart.

>>127497306
One is cunningly brutal. The other brutally cunning

So I played Warhammer Online at release, I was a Warrior Priest; I was most interested in wrath and grace damage builds. No interest whatsoever in healing beyond an occasional offheal. During release both of this was basically impossible for WP whereas DoK could do it fine. I quit a month after launch due to being fed up with that shit.

So I'm here to ask - did they ever fix DPS WP? If not, then I'll just play a WH instead.

Then I'll bitch and cry about how WH has to split stats where as WE doesn't and a bunch of other problems because the devs were biased towards destro. Fuck Mythic.

I'm cursed in this game.

>Like WH
>Find out melee DPS is largely useless in a game of zerg vs zerg, also gimped next to WEs who have fewer stats to focus on, and other shit we dont
>Like WP
>Find out they aren't able to be anything other than a healbot, meanwhile their destro 'mirror' DoK has a perfectly viable damage build
>Like SW
>Find out its utterly useless in every way and is by far the worst class on Order

Fuck me.

>>127645001
>>127645402
WH doesn't have to split stats anymore. Order also has fuck all good Witch Hunters in t3. Everything that is said in >>127494901 goes for WH as well, you will have slightly less damage (no Witch Brew) but instead you get the best single target debuff in the game (Exit Wound).
WP Grace (melee healer) are going to get tuned and are likely to be hilariously OP in a month or so. If you wish to play DEEEPEEE ESSS WP/DoK; kill yourself.
SW is one of the most whined about classes (MUH FESTER BAWMBZ) and are a constant source of Destro salt. They are worse than SH not because of their class, but because the DoK can group-cleanse the SW heal debuff, whereas WP cannot cleanse SH.

>>127647248
Why so much hate for damage WP/DoKs? Are you just salty they don't want to be your healbitch?

>>127615239
+1

>>127647529
They're a waste of a slot in every group, scenario and warband they're in. If you want to DPS, roll a proper DPS class. DoK with 20%+ crit from gear and heal debuff tactic are the only exception.

>>127647651
Now explain to me why WP doesn't have the exact same ability as the DoK and why that's fair.

Go on. I'll wait. 'Mirrors' my ass.

>>127627557
Shamans. God damn unkillabe green laser spewers

>>127647737
I never claimed they were evenly matched, everyone knows "DPS" DoK are far superior in every aspect (automatic healdebuff, 10% parry, ranged snare). However it WILL stay this way for the foreseeable future, only the melee healing of the WP is due for a tune up.
If you wish to DPS on a healer you're better off playing an AM, and no one will expect you to heal as an AM either.

>>127647990
Well that means WPs out of the picture, despite me LOVING the aesthetic and idea of the class.

Guess I'll go with SW seeing as how melee is generally useless in zergs.

>>127647248
Very well said, anon! This is a cool and good post.

>>127648209
Fuck off Shlomo.

>>127648272
I am not Shlomo, sorry, friend. I just liked the post.

>>127647248
Whats the class distribution like at higher levels?

>>127649239
As a rule of thumb, Order has few tanks and many healers. The opposite is usually true for Destro.
Order is also heavy on the RDPS, where Destro has more MDPS.

Anywhere I can see what the devs are working with atm?

>>127652796
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues?q=is%3Aopen

I started messing around with this game again yesterday and got my BW to 5th level. Could anyone give me any pointers about what levels they start to shine at? Or am I gimping myself trying to play this class?

Also, what would be a good duo set of classes on order side?

>>127654319
lvl 8 I think it was, when you learn the AoE fireball

A good duo could be almost anything, but I think I had some fun with a friend with WP+tank

>>127654319
AM/SW is probably the best duo in the game.
WP/tank is braindead easy.
AM/BW works well with good players.

>>127645402
>Sw
>utterly useless

Not true, you just have to play skirmish spec and spam that healdebuff. It's funny to watch tanks with healers still die to the thirsty melee zerg

>>127622741
>killing renork
>heresy

>>127659774
Is it possible to sit in the back and snipe like a faggot / drop pie plates?

Does skirmishing actually consist of switching between melee and shooting?

>>127654893
>>127654897
Thanks for the answers. Would WH work in a duo? AM/SW sounds fun

>>127662714
Skirmish spec is, theoretically, the mid-range moving-and-shooting spec
All of your core abilities for skirmish are castanlw while moving or instant cast, you gain 5%crit and you can auto attack while moving which is a huge benefit.

I say theoretically mid-range because you get a tactic early t3 to extend your skirmish abilities 50%, from 65ft to 98ft which is almost as far as an eagle eye in skirmish stance.

You get a kill shot usable from behind that has increased chance to crit based on target's health percentage, an incredibly optional AOE tactic for padding scenario numbers although I eschew it for single target damage.

>>127664683
Or you could be like scoops and be a festerfag

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>>127665434
You rang?

Today's class discussion is the most retarded yet! Good work /rorg/

>mfw I remember all the days playing WAR
>that time I created a clan with 15 others
>we were an elf only clan
>can't remember the name

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https://youtu.be/4VnLY_iQxGU

>>127663889

WH is never a good idea. Speaking as someone who masochistically played one on live and has a 32 one on here.

>>127668734
Any MDPS is a pain if you don't have a guard.

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>>127563381

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>>127672537

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big guy

>>127668734
>>127669578
So WH might work in a duo if the other is a tank? Just a healer is not enough to make it work?

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>>127675725
>that helmet

>>127676995
WH works well enough solo in the lakes, in SC's it can work well against pugs solo, but if you are against a group that has gaurds/tanks and voice comms you wont accomplish anything without the same.

The reason why I advocate RDPS over MDPS for newer players. Even though MDPS can scale much better in terms of raw dps output.

But I think the best thing for a new player to play is a tank.

>>127678330
Lakes?

And alright, I'll keep your pointers in mind while designing a duo. Thanks!

>>127688302
best duo is

BG+Mara / DPS shaman+SH
DPS AM + SW

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>>127688896

>>127688896
please post in game name

>>127690709
>

>>127696745
Who /nerfmagus/ here

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>>127697380
After playing Rdps for awhile I'm starting to see it. They fucking wait until you start to fester and then drop mist on you forcing you to cancel and move after buring your cooldowns. The realproblem however is all the ranged disable/disarm cancer in the game, that shit has to end.

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Looking into this, used to play WAR. Do the devs have a fucking clue what they're doing?

Is it worth reading the official forums?

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>>127702917
No.

Here is an actual photo of the lead dev working from home.

Which side guild is most alive? Order or Dest?

>>127707892
Destro has more russians.

>>127708273

So play Order, got it.

>>127707892
>which side is most alive

This isn't WoW senpai

>>127652796
>>127652850
Thats just the bugs, every patch they do usually some are fixed.

Azarael is working on ability implementation, rumor is level 39 soon™

Londo is working on adding in smaller things that warband/party implemenation and fixes and a lot of smaller things.

Last thing I heard Nal was working on crafting and possibly guilds.

Other devs/database guys work on smaller stuff and item implementation and fixes etc...

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>>127710560

39 before T4?

>>127712954
>39 release
Fuck me no!

Noooooooo!

>>127718689
>playing with t4 marauders


I'm gonna kill my self

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>>127724573

wut class is best to level in pvp solo, i have no friends

>>127728809
WP/DoK Mara SH SW Engineer/Magus

>Cast Whirling pin
>Dodge my own knockback effect
>End up with Pierce Defenses on myself, losing 15% dodge and parry

fuk

I-Is it ok i-if I don't know anything about the warhammer universe? Should I play?

Is there OWPvP?

>>127732563
OWPvP is referred to as RvR
Realm versus Realm

Yeah, get into it man have fun

Pick a class that looks fun, I always recommend new players start on a tank

>>127732665
Aight, downloadan while reading the pastebin :o)

>>127732563
The whole game is based around OWPvP

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>>127733093

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>>127735427

>>127736461
that looks comfy as fug

>>127736461
how did you make it look that good?

>>127738756
pastebin nigga

Reshade

>>127738756
https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/game/1194/

Why is it that order has basically zero healers and tanks in t1? Every single AM/WP you encounter won't be healing and runepriests are rare as fuck. Meanwhile destro ALWAYS has at the very least 3 healers on their team. Usually shamans and zealots.

You also never see these classes while on Order: Ironbreaker, Swordmaster, or KoTBS.

Getting sick of the front line immediately folding the instant a black orc or chosen faggot decides he wants to rush it and everyone runs away. And being the only person who focuses on those fucking shamans, god I hate shamans. Little green snotballs.

>>127741795
Blame mythic for making order tanks so boring to play :-)

>>127745124
I remember seeing IBs and KOTBS walk into hordes of enemies and not give a single flying fuck.

Why people don't want to play them, I don't understand.

>>127748226
every destro tank counterpart is cooler and has shit that is way more fun.

>>127748226
Because, while they are good, they are boring. Pretty much what >>127748472 said, which is a shame because destro is full of Russians

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>>127748656

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>>127751724

>>127741795
It doesn't get any better. You're going to see a fair few more WPs and when you hit t3 you'll watch them cry about getting shit for trying to dps while their team dies around them.

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>Used my tome of recall as a black ork
>Got teleported back to Orksville
>No one around

H
E
L
P

>>127754920
sound like you are living the dream

what level can I start working towards stalker gear?

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Played Slayer when the game was out and thinking of getting back in but wondering if chosen are viable in pvp?

>>127762762
22

>>127763030
Chosen are viable in everything

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>>127766082

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>>127739696
Having some problems with the graphics tweaks.. It only works for me if I set "#define Compatibility" to 0 in Highpass_settings. If I have it at 1 like the setup instructs you, I get an error like in the picture. Anyone got any ideas how to fix that?

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>>127769605
Wish I could help m8 I'm vanillafag nomods

New Patch.

>- The Warrior Priest detaunt Repent will now work as if Intimidating Repent were slotted if the user is wielding a two-handed weapon.

Based devs

>>127772187
I might have a reason to roll WP now

6 man hammerswinger premade when???

>>127754920
I keep getting this bug too.

Is level cap still 32? Could've sworn I've seen a few higher levels than that.

>>127775057
I'm relatively certain they would have made a big announcement but, hey, shit slips by.

>>127775057
I remember seeing a dev running around t1 at level 50, that was way back though

>>127775057

Level cap is still 32. Might have been a dev, but you could always report them with a SS

>authentification failed

Is the server down for maintenance?

>>127777303
Launch it again m8 mine does that sometimes

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>>127777468

Are there stat caps in this game?

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>>127779619
>>127781274

Yes
softcap at 32 is 800 for most stats

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Threadly reminder that shadow sting is mandatory for premades.

>>127781382
Softcap is
>level x 25 + 50
so for 32 it's 850

Dumb Stoyaposter.

>>127781579
Shadow sting is mandatory for SWs

that's why I'm pissed it's so deep in the skirmish tree

>>127781987
Because the devs think t2 balance matters and have no regards for Assault players (who it hurts the most).

>>127782116
Pretty much, I loved playing assault SW and now I'm forced to play skirmish or festerfag.

It always surprised the fuck out of MDPS when you kited them for 10-15 seconds and when they finally caught up you just tore them to pieces

>>127781382
>>127781809
thanks :3

Though to be honest I feel like capping willpower was a mistake. Probably gonna drop some of it for defensive stats.

Speaking of which, is there any particular defensive stat I should focus on, or get a should I go for a nice balance?

>>127781579
>implying
I rather have a WH for healdebuffs, hell I rather have a Slayer.

>>127782485
What class? Stacking WP in general is a newbie mistake, your best bet is stacking armor and toughness. Deft Defender is nice for RR.

>>127782776
For a full 6/6 premade obviously you'd take a slayer over SW

But if you only had 4 players to work with, a healer, a tank, a SW and any MDPS is a great round combo

are the collectors edition's exclusive faces in the game?

>>127784843
Unfortunately I think not

I still have my grumlok and gazbag

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Question where am I supposed to get the 1.4.8 client/patch from since I'm assuming the torrent download is just the "fullgame", right?

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>>127785302
Lame

>>127785801
The torrent is the correct version to run the game

>>127777468
tried reinstalling but it hasn't worked apparently might be a vpn issue

>>127785990
So the torrent is the patch and the "download fullgame" button is the actual game then?

>>127782116

#AllTiersMatter

>>127786398

The individual links are a direct download of the full game, broken into parts.

The torrent is ALSO the full game, but not broken into parts.

You pick one or the other.

Then you download the launcher and drop it in the game folder. Make the folder not read-only, make sure it's not still being used by a torrent program (move it), and pray to Max that it works.

>>127789291

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>>127781382
>>127793228
H E A L T H Y S E L F I E S

do better

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>>127794826

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>>127795102

>>127795102
>>127795330
don't stop the cute

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>>127795631
B-but niggerjew janitors are watching. I don't wanna be banned...again.

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I don't think there are any noods for Iiniku Ushijima actually. Or at least there weren't last time I looked.

>>127796060
Post to /s/ and link here boii

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>>127796912
>that guy in the background playing street fighter.
>businessasusual.jpg

Can anyone help? I installed Reshade and now all player characters are white with no graphics.Can't seem to figure out what the bug is,disabling and uninstalling it doesnt seem to help.

>>127798620
>All players are white

Seems to me like you won the game

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>>127798620
Turn off lightmaps in the in-game menu. And next time read the fucking readme you stupid nigger.

>>127798831
mud dup mufugger muh dick thanks.

>>127799417
>>127798831
I updated my pastebin for sweetfx just 4 u bb

http://pastebin.com/6d0Tf8Ja

Use it in the next OP pls, replace the "improving graphics" one

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can someone explain step 3 of the installation to me and how it ties into step 4

i just wanna play my chosen again

>>127801173
http://pastebin.com/6d0Tf8Ja

>>127801173

Do you still have the game installed and updated from the last day it was shut down? If yes, skip to step 6.

If you uninstalled the game at any point in the last 2.5 years like a reasonable person, you will need to redownload the already updated client from either the DD links or the torrent.

>>127801893
>http://pastebin.com/6d0Tf8Ja

are you retarded?

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Destro confirmed zerg realm

when are they going to fix PQs?

>>127803008
Who knows.

Who cares? I scarcely remember PQs ever even being run in retail.

>>127803246

They weren't. My guild marathoned every PQ in each pairing as three separate events. Almost a quarter of them were still broken, 3-4 years after launch.

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>>127804098

>>127801913
so all i need to do is just one of the buttons in step 4 and proceed to step 5?

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>>127804509
T H I G H S

>>127804836

See >>127789291

Either direct download every part, or just download the torrent. Then go to step 5.

>>127800248
Are any of the tank classes actually viable with 2h spec other than chosen and kotbs?

>>127805757
>kotbs
>2h viable
>what is dirty tricks

>>127806289
I'm asking because I honestly have no idea, and I got the impression from these threads that kotbs and chosen are 2h viable. Haven't heard much of the other tank classes

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>>127805757

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>>127805757

>>127808098
>not logging out and finding a diff sc the second you see malice/gankbus when you solo que

enjoy losing :^)

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>>127805757
Yes, we can

>>127808731
>losing 5 sec kd, HtL, outgoing debuff, AP rape for a shitty 5 sec crit debuff

CD buff when?

>>127809195
Az is too busy buffing warrior priests :^)))

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>>127809195
>bg needs a buff

>>127809195
15% crit form tactics
10% crit form CD
7% crit drom set
1088 armor debuff
and glorious tons of damage with amror, toughness and wounds.

I am totaly okay with it. And BG does not need a buff.

>>127809706
crit means fuckall when you have no way to buff the multiplier, and the armor debuff is only good if you are in a group without a marauder which in t4 pretty much means you are in a shit group.

Crimson death needs to last 10 seconds at the very least, and it really just needs to be an undefendable attack.

>>127810496
> Crimson death needs to last 10 seconds
it's couldown is 10 seconds and it lasts 5. Don't sya bullshit, please. Great skill.

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>>127809385
tick

tick

tick

tick

not much time left

>>127811321
Knight has 2 skill that give 10% crit which have virtually 100% uptime and cannot be removed or counterplayed at all.

BG has a skill that can be block/parried and has 50% uptime and they have to spend 13 points in a terrible tree to get to it.

>>127811624
SW's assault tree is basically useless because you HAVE to go down skirmisher for a heal debuff, and destro is overflowing with healers. I see 5 or 6 of them in every single fucking scenario, its insane.

They are all zealots for some reason, too.

>>127811624
It is a thing that should be nerfed. Bg is okay. KOTBS is not.

>>127811836
No on their own those skills are fine, what is bullshit is knight can have them both.

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>>127811624
No need to pretend

There us no turning back now

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>>127812327

>>127811836
why rush it
We don't mind waiting

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>>127811993
I'ts going to be quick when it finally happens
he knows what he did

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>>127808509
You took too much too fast
It's still working it's way in
You will have to go back
That's when you will know

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You can stop already scoopy

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>>127814703
plip
plop
splish
splash

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>>127748472
Am I
You're first
Tupla

>>127817284

>>127808098
>>127808494
>>127808731
Seems good. Just getting a whole load of mixed messages.

How about ironbreakers? Are they confined to sword and board or is 2h a somehow viable option?

>>127824002
IB can 2h pretty well, as well as SM. The only tank that shouldn't go 2h on order is Kotbs, unless you are running 2 knights in 1 group.

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w0t

>>127830412
check the pastebin mah niggah

>>127830412
see
>>127801893

>>127830412
>"this isn't even my final form"

>>127830412
>another fucking white lion

you sure you dont want to play an AM, maybe a swordmaster?

>>127831740
Swordmaster it is

If there's no good pvp going on, is there some pve I can be doing to get better items?

>>127835135
Theres some quests to kill an enemy hero mob for stalker gear which is around lvl 22.

Other than that...you grind mobs for xp. Don't bother with quests.

>>127835873
Where's a good grinding spot at level 13?

>>127800135
Love you anon, no elf.

/rorg/, who is your favorite dev?

Londo is my waifu

>>127837710
that guy who does things

How do you do chosen 2h reading the forums is conflicting with some people saying going parry some saying armor others claim its not good/worth it whats the deal here. I didnt play the original game so im a at a loss at what i should spend renown on and how i should build from what i can gather http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho;13;0;9;5:7:9:11:13:;;5:9:;4778:4784:4798:4800:;0:0:0:0: something along these lines was once a decent tree.

>>127805757

I saw a Black Orc wrecking shit with a big choppa the other day but that was in T1