/domg/ - Dominions General

first for sjw

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2nd for Age of Minotaurs

Tribless Ermor Meme or Rainbow Ermor?

Also, what's the most fun and versatile nation in all the different ages?

ded general

>>126120274
They play differently. Tribless is harder to answer if one of the blesses is blood, but less adaptable. Rainbow is more flexible but is unlikely to have any single tool as potent as the blessed lictors and knights.

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I still cant kill the lich

He 1 shots anyone who gets close enough to melee him with an enchanted weapon and my mages miss all their spells on him

Also as soon as my mages manual cast runs out they just cant stop spamming ghost wolves like retards

>126089550
Crone was of the opinion that greatsword wielding men wearing leathervests looked like "Skwisgaar" and were "super gay," and gave them all proper looking leather armor and also axes.

>126073710
>I won with scales agartha
What game?
I won with N9 agartha.
>126081150
>Bless (N9) less common on desura
There is one /domg/ MA Agartha victory. Desura victories generally do not list the bless. Three of them list "unkillable sentinels." None discuss awake expanders, let alone erf sneks with air.

4chanclusterfuck: N9E4
Stone Touch: S4F4E9
DEsinterMA: Unstated bless, same player as Stone Touch
Training Montage: Unstated.
Middle Age Crises: Unstated
Kings and Traitors: Unstated
Decline 3: Unstated

>>126122968
Whoops, fixing links.
>>126073710
>>126081150

Does 'No Effect on Undead' mean just no effect on undead or does it mean no effect on deamons as well?

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>>126123223

>>126123223
No idea. You should test it.

>>126123840
Spells which have 'only affects demons' affect undead as well, so it's a reasonable question.

So apparently Man has attacked Agartha. Man, are you around?

>>126129334
Hinnon attacked everyone arround him then chucked all his forces against Man. Agartha took most his shit, but Man surived, so Man has been asking for some of the territory taken from Hinnon, and any territory that was his back.

I'm not sure if there was a deal, he may just be attacking you.

Did you get told about the bounty? 1 gold per skeleton killed.

>>126129913
I've been following the thread, so I remember the bounty. Has Man been active on the thread at all, and if not do you know if he uses Steam or some other way of communicating? I want to sort this out before doing the turn.

Also old Agartha, if you're around, maybe you can clear this up. I'm probably going to extend the turn timer for this turn so that I can figure out what's actually going on this game, but if that happens sooner rather than later then I'll be able to submit since I think I'm the last one anyways.

>>126130496
He hasn't responded to anything in thread, sporadically responds to in-game messages and MAY have steam.

Please just kill skeletons, if he is attacking you I can deal with it, given I can't fight skeletons due to lacking a border with them.

>>126130759
All right. Who owns 114 and the rest of the area on that island?

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>>126131045
Ermor, here's the scouting report.

>>126131350
Well shit. Is Vanheim in on the crusade?

>>126132167
Ish, he's just finishing removing Ulm.
Abysia will be, Marignon is though I think needs a sub, Pan may or may not be joining in.

>>126132357
I just needed an extension over the weekend. I'm still here, a stale turn later.

>>126132357
Ok then. I remember reading about Pan backstabbing Agartha claiming to be scared of Agartha's size (which is kinda funny now that I see the map), so hopefully he was honest about having rethought that. Since most of the border is right next to Agartha's cap, I'm not too worried about losing a lot if he's not into Ermor removal.

Pan - I'm going to go take the little lake just to our north. I'm pretty surprised that Agartha hasn't taken it already

>>126122226
Have you tried water elementals?

Give a W1 mage 3 water gems and tell them to cast Summon Water Power (conjuration 3) then Summon Water Elemental (conjuration 5).

Put the mage out front and make sure your other troops stay back so the water elementals can get to the lich.

>>126132167

I have at the bare minimum sworn not to attack Agartha, or anyone else actively fighting Ermor, until (a) Ermor is defeated or (b) I get attacked by them first.

>>126132962
>Give a W1 mage 3 water gems
Make that 2 gems, I was thinking of Summon Earthpower instead of Summon Water Power.

>>126132981
Does that include sending stealthed armies into their territory?

>>126132851

You can have the lake to the North, I was also surprised that was still unclaimed. I am however taking the water in the center of my territory.

>>126133102

The only stealthy unit I have in Agartha's territory is Harpy Scouts. I consider anything more than that a hostile act, and won't do it unless I intend to go to war.

>>126133251
Okay, just checking.

And yeah, everyone should have scouts everywhere, so that's obviously not hostile.

Pan, can you donate two bags of wine?

>>126133902

Agartha, having supply issues. And it will be a few turns, I've actually used up all my Nature gems at the moment, and can only send Cauldrons at the moment.

That said I do actually have 2 cauldrons available at the moment, but I'll charge you the same as I did Mari (10 gems per cauldron of any type, which is still a pretty big discount).

>>126134525
Ok. I'll just need one then, and I'll send you 10 death for it this turn.

>>126134706
>>126134525
Let me know once you've modified your turn, since once I submit mine the turn should go through.

Cool, give me a second to resend my turn though

>>126135027
Alright, should be sent now.

>>126113314
shure hope ya' like the smell o' griffin shit ya' fuggin' pansy

>>126122968
I've messaged the winners. The winners of Stone Touch, DesinterMA, Kings and Traitors, got back to me already.

Stone Touch/Disinter MA:
"The first time F4E9, the second time E9N9. I think E9N9 is better"

Kings and Traitors:
"I used an E9 Earth Serpent with luck and magic scales to get a ton of extra gems. In retrospect, the extra gems were extremely valuable, but the E9 would have been better as N9. You get so much prot on everything already, adding regeneration makes it that much harder to kill you."

Apparently, Desura likes N9 too, even when they win with erf snek.

Waiting on training montage and middle age crisis for responses still.

So this is a violent friggin game. Its like turn 15 and I think absolutely everyone is fighting someone else to the death at this point.

H-h-here we go

Oh. I expected Ermor to move towards me rather than Marignon. Hmm.

anyone got a way to play multi with 2 pirated?

>>126137501
Yeah, but you have to buy a game for one of them.

Hows the nationGen game going?

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Skelly status: BTFO

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>>126138026
Meanwhile on the Northern Front, the Enemy moves on us

>>126137663
Which one? Bullshit just finished.

>>126138261
Cliff Divinity, where the first year is PvM (player vs Map) Pretty convenient way to find people's capitals is just find shitty as fuck locations that no sane person would put a cap - that's where it is.

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>>126135861
I sure do love the smell. Not that I think Ragha is going to bother with me when he could instead take the thrones he needs to win in order to end this game quickly. In case the world hasn't noticed I don't have any thrones or really valuable resources beyond my cap which has around a thousand ghosts inside of it.

>>126139453
you are the most annoying fucker to fight ever.
Not hardest, you aren't close to beating me, but so fucking annoying.

>>126122226
Cleansing water doesn't work underwater

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>>126140068
I'm going to get more annoying Bogarus baby my master plan to defeat you hasn't even entered phase 2 yet.

>>126139453
Why did you think I posted that? Flying h3's a shit. :^)

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>>126141193
I've taken precautions against such things but if you really want to join in feel free to not like any of us are getting any...YOUNGER! HA! HAHAHAHA!! a burden of time joke

>>126141998
Marignon didn't. It's to late. It's fashionably late.

aaayy not dead

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>>126142194
No idea what that means. DID SOMETHING HAPPEN TO MY LOVING NEIGHBOR MARIGNON? besides suffering from old age

Hey guys do you have the salt elemental image? I forgot to save it.

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>>126142947

>>126142705
You'll see next turn then... The entire plan has been laid out in front of you Rus can you see it? Can you feel it? You can't prevent it.

>>126142602
So who are the big powers in the world, just curious?

>>126143050
I have actually been colluded against. It's not fun.
both nations died and I survived.

>>126143050
please add >testing to salt elemental

>>126143136
so Utterdark or another annoying ass global.
or can you cast wish?

>>126122226
Do you have any of the following:
Wither Bones
Stream of Life
Soul Slay
Liquify
Bone Melter
If so, spam it like there's no tomorrow.

>>126143269
not sure honestly, there are still 25 odd nations hanging out. I know some are doing well, who are probably accelerating towards powerdom right now. I only know one or two who are lucky enough to be holding onto their own continent and then some though.
I would like to extend an open invitation to buttfuck Ulm and take his germanic land, as the cretins 300 strong army just broke vainly against the lush walls of Maverni.

>>126144368
I too would like to extend a similar invitation to buttfuck Therodos, though their loss was only a hundred assorted sacreds and ghosts.

>>126144825
You're still alive Ermor!
You remember that mountain pass, that one I got stuck behind on like turn 3? Yeah, you guys are behind that. Anyway Ulm may have my number, so we'll see what happens.

>>126123107
The thing I'm wondering is: Why can't you have both? Your mages and summons don't require any production, and as all your summons are income free, statue Agartha is even more able to field dozens of battlefield mages. You can easily get an N9E5 without dumping any scales but Production.

>>126145578
You can have both. That's why it was so bizarre that he was throwing a fit over how great scales agartha is. You can get them while turning your statues into absolute monsters.

>>126144825
Already replenished all that stuff, two turns till fire ward AND rain.

>>126145917
Vunderbar! I've got two turns to Stellar Cascades.
See you then.

>>126145578
Dumping sloth lower than one makes it difficult to recruit Shard Gaurds. Which despite what 'lol take erfsnek' guy says are actually quite good sacreds for MA, maybe not 'carry your entire game like white centaurs' good, but still good.

>>126145984
But will you have any money?

>>126145823
Maybe he's convinced everybody goes full Mictlan Quadbless on them for some reason.
I don't think I've actually played a game with an Agartha with more than one major bless.

>>126146057
Eh, they're good enough you don't need many of them to expand properly, especially if augmented by mercenaries or good indies. You can back them up with Attentive Statues if you don't mind blowing some gems.

>>126146073
Yes, actually. I'm doing surprisingly well on that front.
Honestly, I'm wishing I dumped a point of order for Production 3.

>>126146523
Then you should be making more mages

>>126146391
That's what I meant if it's not what I said.

>>126145578
Don't forget, that, like any sacred mage, Oracles love an earth bless.

>>126146523
>>126146598
Your pontifexs, or whatever the foriegn rec temple lab mages are, are surprisingly good for their price, and help you break into a ton of paths natively.

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>I swear I'm just a noob gaise it's my first game :(
>Blood economy as T'ien Ch'i
>Summons out of the ass
>Sitesearched everywhere
>Vampire factory

>Joining a noob game as an experienced player without gimping yourself

You fucking disgust me and you're going to get destroyed.

>>126146131
The irony is that I found one record of them going N9E9 and its on desura, where he tried to claim they are more likely to go scales.

>>126146997
What game? Anon only? What were you expecting?

>>126146782
Yeah. I've been recruiting them every turn, as Ermor doesn't seem to have much need for an H2. The equites are nice, but not that nice, and the job's better left to a prophet.

>>126147158
right Pontifex are the H2. I meant Flamen, sorry.

did someone falsely post as ulm so I would extend the turn for no reason?
if so fuck you put him AI for me, if not Ulm you're a fgt do your turn.

I'm just feeling lonely. I got kicked out of the big kids water club, and now have to swim in the little kids pool over in Caspania.

>>126147123
They went N9E9 in at least one game on domg, but they didn't win that.

>>126147123
pre pretender patch N9E9 was touted a lot, but it was cheaper pre pretender patch and I haven't seen it since.

>>126148087
Agartha in NoWeebs is running N9E9. He hasn't won yet, game still in progress, but there is an N9E9 Agartha out there in a game.

>>126138192
I was actually moving to fight that army (or, well, whatever his big army was going to be). Those are N9B9D9 knights, right?

>>126148193
I figured that it had to be that or something like N9B9 because the scales here kinda suck.

>>126148225
Message me on steam m8

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Muckknuckle

>>126146997
Heh, I said it was my first PBEM, not my first game. Between the blitzes I've played with TNN's player and prior experience to games like Diplomacy and Civ (which really helps basically everything except scripting battles) I picked up stuff pretty fast.

I'll also say the blood economy thing was much less skill, and much more the game deciding I should have one. Random events have been stupid good to me. Circle Masters OP.

Getting called an experienced player is something I consider a compliment though, so thank you.

>>126148498
Fuck off with your lies. "WAH WE GOTTA KILL TNN HE'S AN EXPERIENCED PLAYER" You're fucking scum, lying to other people just to win against people new to a videogame like a hundred people play. Absolutely fucking disgusting. I hope you rot in hell.

>>126148825
you sound butthurt.

>>126148986
Epic

Did you ask your mom to write that reply for you?

>>126146997
>Blood economy as T'ien Ch'i
Blood economy is mainly luck. If you get an site/province which gives blood mages you can break into it pretty easily, otherwise it's not worth the effort.

>Sitesearched everywhere
Even new players should know to sitesearch.

>>126148498
Playing blitzes is still multiplayer experience. The only difference from PBEM is the method you send your turns.

>>126149071
I'm not even TC dude. you just sound butthurt.

If I cast Swarm, and then cast Creeping Doom, will I make all my insects giant? Cuz that would be cool as shit.

>>126149194
Unfortunately, Creeping Doom is just a stronger (more insects) version of Swarm.

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>>126149194
creeping doom is just a better swarm. if you wanted to cast Army of giants after a couple of creeping doom casts you would get GIANT ASS BUGS

>>126147968
>>126148087
>>126148193
>>126148331
>>126148087
MilesGloriousus Agartha ran N9E9. That was a month or 2 back

>>126148825
TNN was pretty strong though. That stealthy glamour shit freaks me out too.

>>126149379
I like this idea. The AoE of Army of Giants will be more effective with the tiny size of most insects, right?

>>126149379
Do you get to keep the surviving bugs?

>>126151237
no

I've got 160 pretender points to spend. What should my luck/magic scales look like for the maximum possible amount of gem events?

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad of a thug idea is this

>>126151176
it would affect a ton of bugs, unfortunately they only go to size2 and only gain 1hp from what I can tell

>>126151402
hants on pead retarded.

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>>126151402
I hope you're doing this on purpose.

>>126151539
Excellent, so they'll never see it coming then

>>126151402
desura/10

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>>126151402
What is it even supposed to do?

>>126151315
1 magic 3 luck
Luck gives you more events and makes more of them good, so even though magic gives you chances of higher gem count events, higher luck will give you way more of them overall.

>>126151402
You realize that just a skull staff (or even just the D gems) and the water bottle is just as good or better, right? Horde of Skeletons and the elemental (or even just the elemental, depending on the enemy nation and PD count) should be good for raiding. The bow really doesn't help as much as making more skeletons

>>126151929
Thanks anon, will try that.

>>126152472
Luck 3 magic 1 also gives you the chance to get free mages if your pretender has elemental magic (this isn't anything to base your decision on or anything, but it's nice when it happens)

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Question out of nowhere: Anybody wanna substitute for a missing player in what is probably the oldest, and possibly the most advanced (turnwise), game on LlamaServer? (It'd be a commitment.)

This is a Dominions 3 game mind you. They didn't have your newfangled "fours" back in 2008.

>>126155162
No, that looks absolutely awful.

>>126138192

eh, you can take him

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So just made a god for Sauromatia.
Anyone got any tweaks/tips?

>>126158185
>only 107 N9/D9/B9 sacreds
No problem at all m8

>>126158785
Full scales isn't bad, but I think you'd have better results by taking a pretender with some magic for boosters/lategame/globals.

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>>126158785
>not taking every major bless on a demilich
it's like you don't like fun anon.
I literally just wrote a mod to fuck around with blesses on various nations, so I couldn't resist.

>>126159427
The fabled OCTOBLESS.

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>>126159427
>>126160140
Mother of Pantokrator...

>>126159427
Welp, time to Ermor.

>>126159427
so thats a cheat right? mod?

>>126161546
Reading is hard.

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Dont worry lads I finally killed the lich (even though he doesnt show up as dead on the battle report)

I made lightning helmets to autocast lightning bolt and he eventually died

That was quite a ride, I hate underwater with a burning passion now.

>>126129334
I'm just getting my territory back, I'm attacking with random merman, it's not like this shit can push any seriously

>>126164704
>i killed the lich
>check battle log
>it didn't die

also you should attack with actual troops, not only mages

>>126165114
He ran out of hp on the battlefield, I used to have troops but over the course of many turns of sieging they all died

The only reason long handed died is because I was trying to make him flank with a lightning spear

>>126164704
>losing Lugh
Baka desu senpai.

>>126164704
>I hate underwater with a burning passion now.
Lots of people do. Fighting underwater as a land nation is just awful.

>>126165114
It's immortal. He has their capital, so it should die permanently during whatever stage of the turn it revives in.

>>126143305
I got colluded against by three players.
I just made my plan around fucking up the most butthurt one before dying.

Hey, /domg/, ichtyid mod guy here in need of quick help.
A modded spell sprays disease-causing filth like nether darts (same range, scaling, fatigue cost, but no damage), what research level should I assign to it? Even weak mages can spray a lot. The spell itself will be D1N1.

I need some hot tips for MA Machaka.

>>126146997
Actually, I recruited a bunch of people to dominions in real life; the TC player is one of them.

not only is ETBETD his first PBEM, he only had the game a couple weeks at the start of it. I literally made this game as a 'babby's first PBEM'.


>>126148825
And I thought that I was salty.

>>126166305
Okay, since nobody wants to help, I'm putting it to 2.

>>126166305
>>126168935
I can't really see a situation where I'd ever want to use it. It could be at level 0 research and I still wouldn't have my mages casting it.

If you could explain how you think it'd be useful that might help.

Also, MRN, MRN+, MRN-? I'd assume just normal but it never hurts to check.

>>126155162
oh god mistletoe
Hasn't that been going on since 2009?

>>126166305
The problem with disease is that it's more of a long-term thing, not something that has a huge impact on the battle here and now. So if you have the choice between spreading disease or doing actual damage, the disease isn't really an attractive option.

Does anyone know what the income loss from perpetual storm is?

>>126174005
I've found the income loss to be significant but not large enough to cause serious issues.

Manual says 20%, which seems to fit with my experiences.

>>126174286
Alright, that's better than what I expected.

I need a 24h postponement. I'm going out today and probably wont have time for this cluster fuck of a game.

>tfw stalewarriors now is a really slow game that will never end
>it used to be around 14 hours per turn

rest in pieces, my game

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Hope you have a good turn today!

>>126179357
>A single turn
Sounds about right

>>126177236
It's almost like making it much less fun by crippling most ways of doing stuff and therefore entire nations drained people's desire to play.

Not going AI till I kill Pan at least.

>>126179760
I'm attacking Pan too, we should probably talk about sharing

>>126179760
I dont get why Pan was supposed to be a crybaby for going Ai after 5 armaggedons and utterdark, but when AC got casted all of you agreed that for some reason it killed the fun.

Nice memes desu senpaitachi>>126180625

>>126180625
>>126181203
Didnt mean to quote the pan-invader

>>126181203
It wasn't the going AI, it was the massive rants in thread/he was being an annoying tosser in the thread generally.

Also, with no income it's harder to do stuff, with AC up if you're mages aren't great in terms of physical stats you can mosty just twiddle thumbs. Basically it's having that, Utterdark and no pop which means nothing happens for many sides.

>>126181203
Turning off the gold economy means that you can only use gems. That's still fine, because you can still do a lot of stuff with gems only, but then AC turns off gem use.

>>126174808

Nvm I went and did it before.

>>126166305
2 sounds reasonable.
Maybe a second version at 6 or 7 that does some damage on hit and also aoe disease?

>>126182396
And when it comes to gold economy, Pangaea effectively has top-shelf mages available for 8 nature gems, a major advantage over most nations in gold-starved conditions.

>>126185047
The problem with that is you still need the initial investment.
However, nature does have some of the best summonable mages, and summons, second only to death, who tend to be more expensive.

How do I use Khlysti and Fivefold Angels properly as Bogarus? Is there a bless worth putting on them or should I just put all my points into dominion? The manual mentions B9 as an interesting way to play Bogarus and it sounds cool in theory but really gimmicky. I'm playing a game with an A4W3E4N4 pretender for the summons but it feels weird to be ignoring my sacred units.

>>126185897
Fivefold Angels are useful as blood hunters. You don't want to be using the sacreds in general, though. They really are as bad as they look.

>>126171992

No. It's existed since 2008 but it's been resting for a while, because Patala's mind broke or something.

>>126185897
>>126186004
I tend to use occultists for blood hunters, as a rod gets them up to the important B2, and occultists have a lot of other uses.

Fivefolds are good for adding blood magic to an army, or stealthing into the enemy territory and causing problems. I don't use them often, but Bogarus can actually do a lot of stealthy commander annoyingness with their summons.

Mostly Bogarus wants to be using the fact that they have the fastest research in the game and can get highly varied communions. Also, try to recruit indie crossbows, because you can get flaming arrows+windguide.

>>126186004
"Useful" - you're paying double the upfront cost and a little more upkeep for a unit with worse research, almost always worse magic and a single B level - maybe if you want to hunt before you have rods, probably not worth it after you get those going.

>>126185897
Ignoring your sacreds is totally fine on a lot of nations.

>>126185897
with that bless, you can put a shroud on some of your mages, making them decently tougher and better at casting spells.
That the best use for that bless in that nation by far.

>tfw you saved a throne so no one knew you were rushing, but then forgot to claim it pre rush

>>126186374
>I tend to use occultists for blood hunters
That's what I had been doing for cost reasons, 225g compared to 100g is a pretty significant difference.

>>126186393
>Ignoring your sacreds is totally fine on a lot of nations.
I'm still fairly new to the game but I learned to play using OP stuff like W9 Pangea so I guess it seems weird because I've gone from using one of the strongest sacreds in the game to presumably one of the weakest.

>>126186004
>They really are as bad as they look.
Dissapointing. I really like the idea of a cult of suicidal self flagellating religious fanatics being the backbone to a plan for world domination but I guess it just was not meant to be.

>>126185897

Just like real russia, your best russia play is to ignore anyone who is too patriotic about russia.

>>126182396

Just use mages who can kill horrors. Job-> Done.

>>126187545
occultists are also decent researchers (they hit the standard of 10g per research point), your main access to death and thus can do your death searching before you set them to bloodhunting, and are a good way to stick some reinvigorates into your communions.

You should be recruiting a fair number of them, the balance of them to other mages will depend on the game.

>>126187735
>best russia
Vanarus should definitely use their sacreds, but they are more finorussian than straight russian.

>>126159427

New game concept: This mod, admin makes all the pretender gods, you get control of nation on first turn, all but 1 nation have normal amount spend, one nation has an octobless and standardish looking scales, go.

The decision of whether to deploy the bless or act natural would be agonizing

>>126188140
Llamaserver may not like that, or it might be other problems with Snekening.

Who has shit enough sacreds that Octobless doesn't kill everything?

I need someone to sub for or set AI ulm.
pls?

>>126188687
What position is he in?

>>126189745
Doggie.
It's turn 8, as far as I know he's fine, and just pulled an ulm. He might have lost an awake pretender but I'm honestly not sure at all.
I can give you the turn to let you see it if you'd like.

>>126151402
Bow of war doesn't even shoot that much anymore
If you ain't gonna put flaming arrows/wind guide on it, stay at home. 13 Precision isn't exactly impressive, either.

Dominions 4 is currently 50% off.
Conquest of Elysium 4 is currently 25% off.

Since Steam got rid of flash sales they're probably not gonna go any lower than this.

>>126192569

Why did they get rid of flash sales?

>>126188537
Man's sacreds are pretty mediocre.
Uh...
Hmm.
I'd say EA Agartha but Olms, while the blesses don't apply terribly well, are still good, and the mages love a proper bless.

>>126192832
No idea.

>>126192843
MA Ulm. No Sacred unit at all, only their cap only Priest Smith would get the effect.

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I know I've mentioned this before, but here it is again: I'm going to be out of town for a week starting tomorrow. I'll take today's turn before I leave, but I'd appreciate at least enough of an extension to only make me stale once.

It's not exactly like every turn is important in this game, but staling triggers my autism so hard that I have nightmares about it.

>>126188537
EA Atlantis?
They might be impossible to kill but nobody would be in any real danger from them.

>>126193521
Basalt Kings would be awesome thugs/SCs with an octobless though.

>>126193649
what about EA Ry'leh. How spooky are sacreds that can't leave the water.

>>126193267
Good luck

>>126188537
I'd like to see an army of octobless Flagelants

>>126192569
>Since Steam got rid of flash sales they're probably not gonna go any lower than this.
It can still be in a daily deal, no?

I want to play octobless Marverni.

>>126194542
>Quickness regenerating bloodvengeance reinvigorating tramplers
How horrifiying

>>126194501
Nope. Flash sales and daily deals don't exist anymore. There's only one sale and that's it.

>>126194542
I'll post the mod in a minute.

>>126181203

>but when AC got casted all of you agreed that for some reason it killed the fun

most nations can still do shit with minimal income through gem use
almost no one can do anything with no income + no gem use

What is the most annoying nation? Not in terms of how strong they are, like diseasing your shit and making your life miserable.

>>126200834
Lemuria

>>126200834
LA R'yleh. Unlikely to ever do anything serious to you, just make half your mages dance naked in the moonlight every other month.

>>126194542

I want to play octobless Ermor.

>>126196845
http://www.mediafire.com/download/j4nldi74rh7jj1m/cheapass.dm

>>126192832
Refunds.

Hey, Arco, Ur, I want to talk to you guys a bit in chat. I'll be in steam chat for the next few hours.

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Since there's a sale, I'm thinking about buying Dominions 4(Right now I'm playing a pirate version)
Are developers active and are they gonna ditch this game soon to make Dominions 5?

Also how is multiplayer different to single player besides the obvious vs. real people?

>>126204325
They've already ditched it for CoE 4

Singleplayer is shit

Multiplayer is literally the only way to play Dominions

>>126204325
developers are generally quite active.
they're currently hammering out bugs in CoE4 so Dom4 development has slowed to a standstill.
dom5 might be here by 2020.
comparing multiplayer to singleplayer is like comparing apples and sex.

>>126204325
>Are developers active
Occasionally. There's been a decent number of updates for Dom4 including new nations, although they haven't done much recently due to releasing CoE4. Dominions 5 is probably some time away still.

Multiplayer plays entirely differently from single player and is much, much better. Fighting against real opponents forces you to think about magic, unlike singleplayer.

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I worked too long on this

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>>126205149
Cute

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>>126139453
Told you it wasn't in his plans. All he needs now is one more throne to free you all and if I'm guessing correctly he is going to capture it this turn or the next. My original mass thaumaturgs thing didn't really work out all that well should have gone for powerhouse research with all the shitty stuff up which I shall do next time that or try the priest build.

>>126208039
I for one welcome our FUCK YOU LEMURIA

>>126208301
YOU DIDN'T WIN SHIT. I however made the game awful for a large number of people. So I chalk that up as a victory. A shame since I was going to start black death bombing you until you ran out of income if you are indeed Bogarus.

>>126204325
I've been holding off for quite a while too but I'm gonna get it this time, sick of using russkie cracks

>>126208524
>I lost due to doing something that couldn't possibly have made me win.
>Therefore I win.

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What's this

>>126208039
The good news is that I already own the throne of the moon, the bad news is that I forgot to claim it.

>>126208524
domes up on all my forts asshole.

>>126208524
Should have saved Ulm instead of fucking around doing nothing.

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>>126205149

DEADU THREADU

>>126211850
Nah Xibalba got conquered after killing Ulm

>>126216503
Ulm could have stopped the griffin menace. Heck, he stopped the bat menace for a long ass time before dying.

>>126200834
MA C'tis that got into bloodhunting, vampire factories and air enchanted liches.

And maybe some A/E tarts for good measure.

>>126187735
>just use mages who can kill horrors
I got curious if a queen of elemental air equipped with air gems and protected by 24 blood slaves could safely cast 10 gem spells. Turns out even with 8 first-turn air elementals and a buffer wall of blood slaves doesn't prevent a horror from killing the queen in the first combat round, who knew?

>>126210137
I got more than enough to spam every single turn as most are aware domes aren't 100% protection.

how do you guys go about conquering new areas. I always feel like if I don't have an entire army defending somewhere it'l instantly get taken, but then I spend forever building up an army and by the time i'm done the enemy forces have way too big of an advantage when it comes to land and resources, and can quickly overcome my army with a series of bigger ones.

Need a sub for a decent position Pelagia used by a non retard.

Anyone up for the task?

>>126223325
Age?

>>126224067
MA. Decent armies and Foothold on land, decent research. Pretender not retarded.

>>126224463
>Pretender not retarded

Where's the fun in that? Dominions isn't about winning, it's about having fun and doing stupid shit without getting (completely) destroyed.

>>126224067
18+

>>126224732
I didn't say it was good. It's some meme on the verge of retarded shit actually.

D E D
E
D

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>>126231000
time to deploy the memes

>>126203408
I just got off of work and started dinner. I'll be available in about half an hour

>>126237373
t. Arco

>CoE4 is on sale
Is it any good? I notice that Illwinter have continued their trend of overpricing their games a bit.

>>126238764
It's a fun singleplayer game.

>>126222943
pls respond

>>126239104
Make sure you have good expansion, research your research goals asap, don't hang around forever and let your magic advantage slip away when the opponent gets counters to it.
If you're talking about single player, just use any kind of effective magic and you'll beat the AI without too much problem.

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>>126222943
Play elves with W9 bless

>>126226801
Does it have S6+?
Is Ermor in the game?

The tumultuous state of Europe and the surrounding regions:
Xibalba Vs Machaka
Therodos/Arco Vs Ermor
Arco Vs Pan(?)
Maverni Vs Ulm
C'Tis Vs Abysia (?)
TNN vs Xibalba

But is there peace in tha middle east?

Pan's AI and his cap is sieged. Ashod grows stronger.

What should I do with my extra gems?

>>126242231
What type of gems are they, what research do you have, and what nation are you playing?

>>126242231
Elemental spam is pretty cool.

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>>126242474
Blood Slaves
Mostly Construction and Blood
MA Mictlan

>>126242938
You actually have a lot to spend slaves on, but Ozelotls are fantastic. Assuming you're running a decent bless (you have a double bless, right?) they'll be flying killing machines that can take a hit way better than your eagle warriors.

Blood is great in general, but other nice things if you have the paths for them include - arch devils, onaquis, ice devils if you need leaders for your armies of demons, storm demons if you can summon them in sufficient numbers, demon knights if you need an armored fright line that also hits hard and frightens enemies, ritual of five gates to get all the flavors of demons that you don't have the crosspaths for, I could go on.

Blood magic is best magic

>>126243587
>>126242938
Oh, and as MA mictlan you'll need to be lucky to get blood hunters that you can recruit, so it may be worth spending your slaves on getting more blood hunters so that you can get more slaves to do all the awesome blood stuff with.

>>126242938
summon civateveos or tlalahoochies for blood hunting and general kickassness

Tlahuelalalalala are the most blood slave efficient hunters that you can summon, and they're also assassins which is amazing with blood magic once you get Life for a Life (even Leech will kill most enemy mages)

>nigger AI claims throne of pestilence
>god gets diseased
FUCK
U
C
K

>>126244385
Depending on the chassis you can fix it.

>>126244727
EA Ulm, chassis is the smith guy. Svartalf Mastersmith.

>>126241547

Abysia is the Middle East. And to my knowledge he's fighting Kailasa, not C'tis (okay maybe he's fighting C'tis too, not sure.

Yes Ur is between Kailasa and Abysia (so is the Goat Sun btw), no, I don't understand how it works, but apparently its happening.

>>126245301
Cave network probably

>>126246334

Kailasa isn't part of it. From what I can tell the culprit seems to be the port system actually.

anyone want to sub for a turn 9 LA Ulm?
or AI him.

>>126242938
There's a genocide button too.

>>126245012
You'll need to get an antlered shaman up to N5 and make a Miraculous Cure All Elixer if you didn't take blood magic on it or get lucky with blood indies.

>>126247414
what const is the elixir at?

>>126246684
I can AI him. I'm in /v/anheim chat

>>126247482
cons 4, Nature 5
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/ items tab for your future needs

>>126247549
>>126247414
Am I better off going for const 6 and the Elixir of Life?

N5 seems pretty difficult, since Antlered shamans are just N2.

>>126247847
Elixer of Life doesn't cure diseases and you keep the afflictions when you resurrect

>>126247847
I'm dumb, I thought they could random to N3.

The two ways to heal it are nature and blood.

>>126247549
I don't have steam.
[email protected]

>>126248083
Oh, and E3D3 Eye Pendant at Cons 6.

What paths did you take on your dorf?

>>126248175
F2A2W1E3S1D1

>>126248834
uh. ok. You can do eye pendant w a skull staff

>>126249149
Skull staff is D2

>>126249363
doesn't dwarf have master smith?

>>126249445
SHIT, HE DOES!

>>126249445
Any way to make him last from const 3 to const 6?

>>126249681
A regen item will prevent death, but he'll still rack up afflictions.

>>126250085
I thought regen only healed during battle?

>>126250179
It does. You'd need to have him participate in a battle.

>>126250587
how about shape changing to his big dragon form? Will that help?

>>126250721
I'm not sure.

I know that disease is supposed to take off a percentage of their HP and that form changing shouldn't make a difference, but it wouldn't surprise me if staying in dwarf form and then switching to dragon form will help when your HP gets low will help because Illwinter can't code.

>>126246562
I am currently fighting Kailasa and Lanka. No war or even communication with c'tis.

The goat sun is dead. Killed by dirty monkeys.

>>126252206
>dirty monkeys
That's redundant

Can Kailasa poo in the loo?

So what do you guys do with non-mage human commanders?

I've been kind of at a loss as to what to do with them, just been slapping Black Steel Full Plate/Helmet + Anti-magic amulet + girdle of might + boots of giant strength + whatever crossbow seems appropriate on them, and just having them plink stuff. Figured they could use the armor and amulet for survival.

Also, what items should I be putting on mages to help them live more? Was thinking armor, but I read that it fucks their spell casting because encumbrance, but I don't like them getting nicked by a stray arrow and dying.

Don't bother equipping regular humans unless you really need more firepower and have extra gems, in which case the fireball wand and some of the bows are ok. Never bother with armor on them.

Mages don't need equipment other than maybe boosters / reinvig gear for certain scripts or armor for when you know you're walking into RoS. You solve the arrow problem with positioning and buff spells, not equipment.

If you want to spend gems on gear, first get a chassis worthy of wearing it.

>>126253649
>So what do you guys do with non-mage human commanders?
Usually nothing, I just have them sit at the back.

Sometimes I give them a ranged weapon or a spellcasting item so they can contribute, but there are usually better things to do with my gems.

>Also, what items should I be putting on mages to help them live more? Was thinking armor, but I read that it fucks their spell casting because encumbrance, but I don't like them getting nicked by a stray arrow and dying.
Armor can be worth it if it's a particularly valuable mage. You can also buff mages with spells. Marble Warriors will give a decent area similar protection to heavy infantry.

How big a deal encumbrance is depends what spell the mage is casting. If it's a big spell that they're only going to be able to cast once encumbrance is meaningless. If it's a relatively weak spell that they're going to cast a lot of times, encumbrance is a big deal.

You can get a few types of armor that have low or zero encumbrance. Weightless scale mail provides some protection and doesn't reduce spellcasting ability.

>that one group of minotaurs with 1 province
get it together man, you're making us look bad.

Ur, ate you monitoring this thread?

how accurate are the guides people make on desura. i'm reading this pretender one saying rainbow pretenders aren't that good and to always keep dominion over 6.

>>126255097
He probably snuck instead of attacking .

>>126257569
>desura

>>126241117
No and yes but AI

>>126253505
either post dank memes or don't meme at all

>>126258131
are they really bad or something. u have to understand im not up to date with the hip memes here yet.

>>126259405
Apparently you can't sign up for the forum anymore cause company wentt bankrupt for starters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j8MoAKqvJM

>Squidfaces will never be capable of total domination
>there never be indepth systems of turning the world into lovecraftian horror
>mages that gone insane from your influence will not join you

>>126257569
>how accurate are the guides people make on desura
It varies. Look at the comments, they'll usually say something if the guide is completely wrong.

>rainbow pretenders aren't that good
That's right, though.

>to always keep dominion over 6.
Might be a guide which hasn't been updated with new changes. That advice was valid before dominion spread mechanics got changed around 10 months ago.

Oy m8s, I'm out for christmas, will come back on the 26th. Since the game is closing, and I can't really cap more thrones than I got, I'm not sure asking for an extension is in order. Though, please let me not AI, I'd like to see the end.

Merry pagan rituals, don't do too much blood saccing, see you in a few.

>>126255097
Wasn't he stuck behind a bunch of mountains and the only province he could reach was a heavy cav province?

DESU I'd go AI on turn 2 if the map fucked me over that much,

>>126242938
Wait, what is this game?
If there's something to be purged I do need to play it.

>>126264804
Stellaris.

It isn't out yet.

>>126264804
Oh neat, considering it's a paradox production, it should be quite good. Also:
>be paradox studios
>plan on making new Hearts of Iron
>already planning another grand game in the meantime
just what
gibe me my hearts of iron
Me and my friend are so hyped for the new release.

>>126241547
C'tis is not fighting Abysia, their border is calm.

>>126265108
>implying the game isn't finished and they aren't just waiting for the DLC to be done before releasing it

Are Manticores worth summoning?

>>126265595
this makes me sad

>>126265535
C'tisian propaganda

>>126265108
The beginning of the game making process and the end require different skills and different teams. So does the middle, actually. Whoever does the beginning parts is probably working on something else new already.

>>126265680

Mostly no. Flying tough fear-5 guys, but for the cost, not really worth it.

Posting this from an Internet cafe -

You can set me as ai since it looks like I won't be able to play my turns. The map was sort of shitty anyway.

>>126268753
>almost 2016
>internet cafe

JK confirmed Based.
They're making new elder ones for CoE4 and later porting them to Dom4
I sincerely hope that EA rlyeh gets a way to open a void gate

I made smaller game for 5 people instead of a huge clusterfuck game.

EA, 7 thrones, 5 points, regular settings

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EasyGameFor5

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SaltElemental has finished, will post graphs.
Sceleria outspooked everyone and won by taking thrones off Mictlan and Asphodel, it seems.

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I hope you have a nice turn!

Are spirit helmet wearers affected by B9?

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My prophet was in the Hall of Fame for pretty much the entire game with Heroic Quickness. He runs pretty fast.

>>126270438
I blame everyone but me.

GG.

Dominions should have a Dia de los Muertos Mexican flavored nation.

More skeletons!

is there a reason not to recruit researchers in capital only?

>>126279680
You almost always want to be recruiting nothing but mages out of every fort. For some nations, you might want 120 leadership guy or inspiring leader every once in awhile for the morale bonus or some assassins for assassinating, but by default you want to get more mages.

I know buffs with the same name don't stack, so I assume Gift of the fourth soul does't stack with Earth power's reinvigoration.

But does the reinvigoration give by Boots of youth stack with them?

>>126279852
some spells give the same effect and so it doesn't stack ( for example mass protection doesn't stack with barskin).

but diffferent sources of the same stats stack: boots of youth do stack with earth's power and with other (different) reinvigoration items.

>>126250179
Regen also stops hploss from disease, or slows it down to 10% year possibly - it's enough to stop them from dying usually. Shapeshifting hurts more than it helps.

>>126279809
That's not what I asked.

>>126282497
Oh, are you asking if you should recruit researchers from outside your cap? Of course you should. You generally want to be spending as much gold on mages as possible. You'll want to build forts and labs to recruit national mages (on most nations, at least), and when you get lucky enough to find indie mages worth recruiting you'll want to build a lab there as well to recruit them.

I'm pretty close to quitting Dominions. All games I'm in blow compared to the games I used to have. It's like a new wave of shitters has invaded, starting somewhere last summer.

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This guy should be able to cast Dance of the Morrigans (A2D5) by spending an extra gem, right? I had a battle where he didn't cast it, despite another king following script and casting Storm. The enemy didn't have very many troops, but he had a decent few mages (without any gems, though).

>>126283494

Yes, its called 'new players'. To avoid that make invite only games or do background checks on people joining.

>>126283545
You can only spend gems up to your level. Dance of Morrigans requires 4 gems, and since he is D4, he can't spend the 5th gem needed to raise his level

>>126283494
No, you need D5 to cast it since he would need to cast 4 gems for the spell and an extra gem to gain an extra level, and he can only spend 4 gems due to being D4.

>>126283552
No, it's not new players. It's legit shitters. People that don't even remotely care about winning, that'll actively help other people win even though that fucks thme over as well. People that'll ruin games with wish spamming, or join new player games without being new. In general, people not fun to play with. The playground kids that kicked the ball away from the soccer field whenever they had it, and cried to the teachers when you didn't let them join. Those people aren't worth playing with.

>>126282497
>>126283381
maybe he's asking if you should always recruit the cap only mages at the cap, or if sometimes you should recruit generic mages there.

In which case it depends on the nation.

>>126283654
Oh, thanks.

>>126283710
What games are you thinking of? The games I've been in have been fine, since I didn't join any memey games like stalewarriors.

>>126283810
All_Yesterdays, Classic Dawn of Dominions, CastleDoctrine, Fashionably Late (no underscore), MapmakingIsHard, obvious stuff like Stalewarriors and soon most likely stuff like Weeaboos.

>>126284152
Huh, I haven't been in any of those games except mapmaking, and I got knocked out of that one pretty quickly.

>>126218404
It depends on the horrors. I've had good luck castin globals from air and water queens personally.

Including killing doomhorrors.

>>126284152
What are you talking about? Mapmaking has perfectly capable and competent players. No need to worry about Vanheim. No, sir.

>>126284308
Air Queens are much less durable against magic weapons than other royalty, whereas Water Queens have insane regeneration and can tank a lot of horrors without any items. I guess luck has a lot to do with it regarding what horrors attack.

>>126284152
Vanilla DoD (assuming that's the one you're talking about) was absolutely fucked by the start given that Caelum started with the Throne of Pankoman and basically dom killed two nations for free. The game honestly should have been restarted just from that. The fact that Oceania was an undertale shitter didn't help things.

>>126117612
>i've owned this game for months
>i want to into it
>i know if i get started on it i'll just set myself up for failure
>don't want to play single player because you all say it's too easy
>don't want to play multiplayer because you're all too good

I wish I was an autist so I could get good at strategy games. I can't even play EUIV well, and I've sunk hundreds of hours into it.

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>>126284846
>don't want to play multiplayer because you're all too good

>>126284846
>you're all too good
Stopped reading here.

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Why were Triarii so important to Roman warfare?

Weren't they just old people with longer spears?

>>126284998
>>126284992
You don't understand how strategically retarded I am. The only strategy game I'm good at is Risk because I play the odds.

>>126285309
You won't get better if you don't try

>>126285273

>anime-girl

>Internet dies for a day
Sorry for the stales everyone.

>>126284152
I think it's less likely that seven games are somehow toxic and that you just have a precious attitude towards how the game ought to be played

>>126283710
Some of each. My last two games have had newshitters, but one of them was helped along by two experienced players who joined to dick around. (this game wasn't newb only, though).

>>126285273
they were hardened veterans with years more training and experience than the Hastati and Principes. calling the Triarii "just old people with longer spears" is like calling Navy SEALS "middle aged men with more attachements on their guns"