Pyre

The True Nightwings are meant to be absurdly difficult, right? They're the only team I've lost to so far bc always play perfectly and have higher apm than Korean StarCraft players.

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https://youtu.be/5LMZYnOml54

>>385573292
i think they're supposed to be a cut above the other teams in terms of difficulty yeah

>>385573292
they're piss-easy like every other "battle" in this game, even on Hard

christ people who like the combat are brainlets

Post Endings

>Hedwyn stayed with me, Volfred, and Bertrude, to allow Oralech his chance to be free
>His harpy waifu flew down to the Downside to be with him
>Oralech saved many lives as a doctor in the Commonwealth while Ti'Zo claimed his shoulder as his new home
>Rukey, Gae, Pamitha, and Jodariel were also liberated and spent the rest of their lives happily ever after
>Sandra and the Beyonder Orb chilled with Volfred, Bertrude, Hedwyn, Birdfu, and I in the Downside

My only regret was that I couldn't keep Gae and Almer together.

>hourly neogaf shill thread
>HAHA U GUISE XDD!!1 PLZ ENJOY THE MARXIST PROPAGANDA MADE FOR CHILDREN

>>385574451
well?

>>385574451
What's wrong with Marxism anon?

>>385574169
It's easy when you get a hang of it and talents.

>>385574451

t. anon who didn't make the basketball team

The AI really breaks around Volfred's abilities. Just plant a sap on the ball and they either run right into the aura or awkwardly freeze up until you do something.

>>385576991
the AI is fucked up in general

I've lost count of the number of times the ballbearer has suicided into my units

on the other hand, they randomly turn on godmode where a fast guy runs through your entire lineup and dunks on the pyre like michael jordan against a team of midgets

looks like discussion of this game is finally dying. there's only so much you can talk about when the base gameplay is so unsatisfactory

>>385577270
>on the other hand, they randomly turn on godmode where a fast guy runs through your entire lineup and dunks on the pyre like michael jordan against a team of midgets
What? You know you can do that too, yes? Xae, Rucky, Hedwyn and Gilman are perfect for it.

>>385573292
Their savage fights like hes the one getting freed

>>385578591
Eh, the only real problem is the demon guy, he's a demon but he moves like an imp/

>>385577487
>>385574210
>Gae
>Xae
Her name is obviously Shae, you fags

This game is great. But the asspain it being great caused /v/ might be even better.

>>385577270
In 23 hours of play Ive only ran into AI pathing issues at the lava pits and with saps.

>>385574451
Oh, is this why there has been shitposting?

The main casts of all of their games have been white as snow. And homolust and gays destroyed the world in their last game.

I have yet to see anybody discussing romance as girl Reader.

>>385574210
Me, Fae, and Bertrude in the downside. Volfred was the last person to get his freedom and i insisted he take it back so he could see his plan come to fruition and because TyZo went first and i wasnt ok seperating them.

>>385574210
>Making Hedwyn stay
You absolute monster.

I got the 3 of them out exceptionally quick because they were my top priority. Realized it meant no more main cast. Gonna keep em around next time.

>>385580110
Or four of you can stay.

>>385579539
No good husbandos. Hendwyn's taken
>>385579083
>And homolust and gays destroyed the world in their last game
...Wow this is actually true

>>385579539
Is there romance in the game? Didn't even realize, for male or female Reader

>>385579323
>homolust and gays destroyed the world in their last game
I don't remember this happening. What were the details?

>>385580682
Basically Sybil wanted to scissor with Red (good taste tbqh) and was rebuffed. Sybil suggested that the Transistor absorb Red next to her fellow camarata in spite (she told them Red would be alone while knowing that The Man would definitely be with her)

The camarata attack. The Man goes into the Transistor and becomes a part of it instead of Red becoming one of those abilities the Transistor has on accident. Without the Transistor the process go insane. Turn Sybil into a monster. Then the two buttbuddies in the camarata commit suicide together. And the only one of the bunch not explicitly gay (if memory serves) is also the only one trying to do anything.

>>385581208
So Sybil fucked up. Proof that /u/ is not always good.

>>385581560
The other two also commit sudoku in favor of attempting to stop the monster that they created and only they even remotely understand.

>tfw I've lost both liberation rites so far

This game makes me rage so hard and I don't even rage at games

>>385580682
Grant and Asher were heavily implied if not outright stated to be a gay couple, Sybil was a jealous lesbian, Royce was just a pretty cool autist who wanted his work to be appreciated.

People scream "SJW shit" all the time but if anything you could say the game speaks about the dangers of a special snowflake society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grvUgzHDHC0
here to post on eof the best tracks in the game

>>385582557
Amazing choice. Right up there but not quite beating Manley as far as character themes go

>>385582341
And then Bastion goes nowhere near any of that. Its about Weapons of Mass destruction. Caeldonia is a parralel to America and the Ura to the Japanese. In the end the choices boil down to basically being pro or against WMDs (pro being restore and anti being eject)

>>385582716
I havent played the game but i assumed the theme was Sir Gilman theme since he looks like a snake only to find out that it was Bertrude theme

>>385583021
When I beat Bastion the first time I restored it becuase I thought everything would fixed, and then I read online that it only sent you back in time before the calamity. Not restoreing it is honestly the best choice in the game

>>385583297
Because WMDs are mostly retarded.

Sure you COULD keep nuking The Ura hoping itd play out different this time (the game does give you some small hope that it could). Or you could just live with the fact that it happened, not make the same mistake, and carry on.

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>>385581208
Sybil did nothing wrong Red was hot.

>>385583480
Who knows maybe they'll find people who also survied the calamity now that the bastion is mobile

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>>385583940
Sybil did a ton wrong but towards a worthy goal.

Red IS hot.

>>385584086
A worthty cause but at what cost

>>385584307
1. Turn into a process monstrosity
2. Destroy Cloudbank almost entirely singlehandedly
3. Still doesn't get Red
Maybe just admire from afar instead, lesbians.

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>>385572258
>mfw the happiest ending for everyone requires that you actually lose a close game to Oralech, allowing you the chance to change his mind about you.
Then he lets you or another ascend and won't kill himself after.

This really is a sports story. But I fuckin love it

>>385584550
>Then he lets you or another ascend and won't kill himself after.


Holy fuck really? I still have my final liberation rite save, I've gotta try this.

>>385584678
I dunno how close the game has to be, I managed to get his pyre to 5 points before letting him beat me

>>385583297
>read online
Rucks tells you this ingame.

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>The opposition characters
How did they do such a fucking good job with them?
When I get The Fate I feel properly shitty about kicking their asses. (Slightly the same with Ignarius and The Tempers)
Meanwhile I was genuinely EXCITED I got the opportunity to cuck Manley out of his freedom.

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>>385572258
Use pic related for future OPs, it might deter shitposters from spotting the logo and starting their screeching.

>>385584452
Sybil was probably to arrogant or spoiled for that.

>I'm a beautiful blonde celebrity trend setter/organizer
>No one can say no to me
>I don't give a fuck if Red is a happily married woman and straight

>>385582557
Coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOqoKUhEjeo

>>385585253
>trying to force this every thread
D-DO WHAT I WANT YOU TO!!

heres a hint go to fucking /vg/ and make a general for it.

>>385585502
Actually I believe the game DIRECTLY suggests something of the sort.

>>385585502
The entire gimmick of Cloudbank was that the place changed and reshaped according to the whims of the people all the fucking time after all, and she was part of the group in charge. It also explains why so many of them and other citizens are so anti-normative: there is very little set norm in Cloudbank, it's literally a constant flux of what people feel like doing and being right now.

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>>385585173
>Manley gives a speech in the pre-rite thanking you for letting him win
>Proceed to dunk his Pyre 5 times in a row
So this is the true power of sportsball.

>>385585552
Sorry for presenting you with an option I thought advantageous for a stated reason and thus putting a gun to your head and "forcing" you to do what I want. I did not mean to trigger you.

>>385585253
there's pretty much no shitposting in this thread

do you know why?

it's because shitposters aren't talking about the game any more. Contrary to what you believe, nobody wanted this game to fail. There was an immense amount of hype and optimism leading up to the minute of the game's release. It wasn't until a few hours later that the criticism began flooding in.

Now the people who didn't like the game are doing other things. For some reason you seem to think that people have nothing better to do than samefag a dozen times how much they hate this game. That's not how it works. The people who didn't like the game aired their grievances already. Nobody sticks around for a dozen threads to hate on a game they honestly don't give much of a shit about.

People tried out the game, didn't like it, posted about how disappointed they were, and moved on.

I honestly don't even know why I'm still here. It's probably because I forced myself to finish the game despite liking it.

not like it matters, Pyre discussion is already dying out. That's what happens when you have mediocre gameplay wrapped around oregon trail. Half this thread is transistor discussion. In another few days Pyre threads will hit page 10 without any replies. There's only so much circlejerk a mediocre game can sustain

>>385585802
>It's probably because I forced myself to finish the game despite *not* liking it.

2 tired to type

anyway I thought the game sucked but finished it anyway because I was already 4-5 hours in at that point

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>>385585802
>No notable reception changes on any metric compared to previous Supergiant games
>"All" the people who didn't like it

Pyre discussion is dying out because it's a small story base indie game that doesn't even last 20 hours yet somehow managed to make it a week of threads on /v/. (Transistor didn't even come close to that, it had threads for like 2 1/2 days.)

It's just pretty much run it's course at this point. No reason to have regular threads unless they decide online multiplayer.

>>385585091
At the time I played the game i was in the 7th grade and I didn't fully understand what was going on I was just glad I beat the game I also left zulf. I did the opposite when i played it for a seconed time made me cry but yeah after playing it again and reading online I understood it

>>385586092
>>No notable reception changes on any metric compared to previous Supergiant games
>>"All" the people who didn't like it
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I'm pretty sure I didn't say it.

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>>385586167
>7th grade when Bastion came out (I hope the year it cam out)
>Had trouble with Bastion at 12-13 years of age

>>385586167
>I left Zulf
How could you

>>385586279
Sociopathy

>>385586259
Oh also
>left fucking Zulf
>reset the bastion
Jesus anon go reply

>>385586235
"People tried out the game, didn't like it, posted about how disappointed they were, and moved on. "
You're trying to imply a larger amount of critics of the game then there actually were.

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>>385585679
>He cheats
>It doesn't help

>>385586465
>he cheats
>it doesn't help
>he starts blaming all his cheaty shit for getting in the way for him losing

>>385586401
No I'm not and you're paranoid for taking it that way.

All I'm saying is that people who don't like the game already aired their grievances and aren't sticking around anymore because, contrary to what some posters in these threads believe, they don't care enough to shitpost 24/7 about a game they dislike. That's why the amount of criticism has gone down each time a new thread is posted.

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>>385586259
>People that were 12 years old when Bastion was released are now old enough to post on 4chan
>Bastion is 6 years old
Why am I still here?

>>385580110
There are some really nice moments to be had if you keep the original cast around, especially Hedwyn and Jodariel. I suggest keeping Hedwyn around until the end for any playthrough, it just seems right.

>>385586624
Criticism disappeared entirely for like 5-8 hours each day. It didn't go down steadily or have a remotely normal trend. A vast majority of it was ungenuine.
Kind of like trying to pass off a games discussion running it's course on /v/ as "That's what happens when you have mediocre gameplay wrapped around oregon trail." Like you did.

>All I'm saying is that people who don't like the game already aired their grievances and aren't sticking around anymore because
And yet, here you are.

>>385572258
didn't like Transistor but thought Bastion was OK. How is the combat in this?

>>385586954
It's a slow burn because there's a lot to get used to but there's a lot of fun to be had.

>>385586279
Idk I was a different person at the time. I thought he got his comeuppings. that and I didn't want to give up the ram. I'm a different person from whenI was 13 leaving him was shit

>>385586954
I honestly can give no guess as to if you will like it if you disliked Transistor, which is easily the strongest and deepest combat system of the three and pretty deep by industry comparison in general.

>>385586954
>Pyre
>combat
I hope you like NBA Jam.

>>385587023
is it more actiony like Bastion or more strategic like Transistor?

>>385587080
There is no pause like Transistor, but I would call it more like playing Transistor without using Turn() and doing the combat real time, which was always an option in Transistor and neat for some abilities. Pretty similar to that. Except it is also the space jam.

>>385586906
>A vast majority of it was ungenuine.
you are legitimately in denial if you believe this. This is the worst kind of attitude you can take on /v/. Blindly denying criticism under the banner of "ungenuine" or "it's just the same person" is dumb fanboyism. Like I said before, nobody gives enough of a shit about this game to hang around and shitpost 24/7. People say they dislike the game, then they move on.

I'm only here because although I didn't like the game, I actually managed to finish it, and want to give my opinions to anybody who's interested in this game in the cesspool of circlejerking.

>>385586954
you'll find out very, very quickly whether you like this game or not. If you don't like the first couple of battles, you're not going to enjoy it.

>>385586259
Ok I will be honest when I was playing it the first time I didn't really comprehend it. I got the calamity part and the ura war part but the restoration part I didn't get.

>>385587051
I'd say Pyre's is deeper in a Smash Bros kinda way. Like sure, you just press b to chuck the ball when you have it. But there's so much you can do with just that.
>Throw it down in your aura and defend yourself
>Toss it in the goal
>Toss it to an opponent to make them vulnerable
>Throw it down the map for yourself
>Fake out opponents

Plus with Pyre you have to execute it all in real time. Transistor has more possibilities with the combat but since so many of them are viable I don't know if it's necessarily deeper.

Both beat the mega safe shield of The Kid though.

>>385587224
> If you don't like the first couple of battles, you're not going to enjoy it.
Absolutely the wrong approach. It is an extremely slow build and basically until after the first liberation it still introduces new things to you. The first few rites are basically no implication on how things will be.

>>385587080
I mean, its basically fantasy basketball.

Its not the fastest paced thing ever, but definitely more actiony than strategic tho there is strategy

>>385587237
Transistor had ludicrous amounts of customization of abilities and ability sets and then combining them together, each ability also functioning differently in Turn() or real-time and a huuuge swathe of combinations that were all viable but excelled against different enemy types. Plus really vamped up NG+ encounters and Limiter customization.

It's a super meaty combat system.

>>385587224
Definitely not.

I mean if you don't like the basic mechanics, then sure that won't change. But basing your enjoyment on the first few games of the story is a terrible idea.

The AI basically rolls over and lets you win until the first ascension rite. Especially if you play on normal or, God forbid, lower.

>>385587080
Yes.

They keep introducing things to the combat for I'd say over half of the game though. It starts out a little basic and the the AIs admittedly stay too easy as they're introducing the enemy teams the first time.

>>385587395
What he's saying is Pyre isn't complex mechanically. You have pretty basic maneuvers. And character customization isn't nearly as deep as Transistor.

But what you can DO with those maneuvers in action is where things get deeper.

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>>385587224
>"Believe my shitposting, please"
>"If you fight a giant rat as your first enemy in an RPG the game is complete garbage for sure"
>mfw

>>385584550
You can also get a happy ending by liberating him in the final rite. He was stunned by the mercy we had showed him and pledged help the Plan however he could. Ends up becoming a doctor and living with Ti'Zo, if you happened to liberate him as well.

>>385587438
And then toward the end they're like "oh so you think you got a handle on this now, eh? Here's this Oralech guy, he's gonna show you how to jam."

>>385587503
I feel like a lot of people never did much in real-time in Transistor, which on just NG I guess works, but NG+ you definitely want to start flowing from real-time into Turn() and back a lot more often and a lot more fluidly, and specifically to utilize how certain abilities work in one or the other. Getting a Void() on is much better in real-time to then capitalize on it in Turn() for example. If you try to play more real-time in Transistor you'll probably find it a lot closer to Pyre.

>>385587529
Sure, that works too. But still, its nice to have an option to not ascend him and not have him kill himself. Hell, if Volfred remains in Downside, they even bury the hatchet down the line and become friends again

Wonder what happens if you make peace with him then ascend him with Volfred on the surface? I guess just showing him mercy is probably enough to make him change his mind about Volfred?

>>385587672
I do a lot of action in real time but it's mostly towards keeping me alive for Turn()

Fuck I need to replay this game and Bastion and then rehit Pyre.

>>385587303
>>385587402
No. The rites get more complex and difficult, but the fundamentals don't change, and neither will your enjoyment of it. If you don't enjoy the combat, making it more difficult will not make it more enjoyable.

I've said before that Pyre is best thought of as its own genre, like 4X or fighting games of SCHMUPS. People know whether they like 4X games of fighting games of SCHMUPS. If someone doesn't like a 4X game, bumping up AI difficulty will not make them like it more. If someone doesn't like fighting games, pitting them against harder opponents won't make them like it more. If someone doesn't like SCHMUPS, increasing the bullet count won't make them like it more.

I spent 4-5 hours on Pyre and didn't like it, but finished it anyway because fuck it was only 10 hours long. I didn't enjoy the game any more in the last 8 hours than I enjoyed it in the first 2 hours. I didn't enjoy the game on Normal and I didn't enjoy it on Hard and I didn't enjoy it on Hard + Titan stars. Honestly now I wish I just turned it down to easy because I would've been done with it quicker.

You either like Pyre or you don't.

Is Oralech the Zulf of Pyre when it comes to decisions

>>385587727
I'm disappointed that sending him up mercifully as part of the Plan doesn't make him call out Brighton personally, seeing how he knows him.

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>>385587727
>Keep Volfred, Ty'Zo, Oralech, Bertrude, and The Reader chilling in the downside having adventures
Sounds like I just figured out my next ending

>>385587819
No, the Zulf of Pyre is whether or not you take the Beyonder Orb at the end, because much like Zulf only a sociopath wouldn't.

>>385587823
Well I mean, Brighton almost certainly gets his when the revolution hits, even if the epilogue never explicitly confirms it. Would have been nice for him to get an epilogue too, but oh well

>>385587819
I agree with >>385587907

Oralech is actually successful at being divisive it seems

>>385587935
I mean the people literally chant "cast yourselves down" and all that shit, but you'd think Oralech would step up and call out Brighton personally by his actual name and there'd be a reference to Brighton reacting to him or something, but much like in Downside there's barely any acknowledgement by the Voice of Oralech and their past.

>>385587893
To be honest, my next ending is gonna be mostly what you said, but ascend the Reader so Hedwyn can fulfill his promise to get the initial 4 out.

I just need to figure out how to do it to get the most endings possible. I wanna get Rukey with Pam, so I guess my order will be _ae, Gilman (if I can get him higher first I will, but probably not),Pamitha, Rukey, Jodariel, Hedwyn, Reader

>>385588151
Send Jodi first. Best option tbqh. Like she says at the Gate, there's nothing she's searching for in Downside.

>>385588035
I mean its possible that he doesn't know who the voice is somehow. Perhaps he became the voice after Oralech's fall

>>385588217
Not him but then you miss out on having the big 3 for the whole game

I sent her and Ty'zo back early and regretted it terribly.

>>385588217
Huh, that works too.

Is it bad that I don't want her to fall for Ignarius?

>>385588236
He specifically says Volfred was avoiding wearing the raiments to escape the Voice though, and only Brighton as the Voice would be assmad at Volfred probably.

>>385588217
Also what >>385588282 said.

Part of the journey is the camaraderie of having the 3 original members.

>>385587907
>Sandra shows up again in the epilogue just to shit on what the history books say about her

I love ghost waifu

>>385588316
Not at all, he's a scumbag and it isn't a particularly loving or healthy relationship. She's 17 years deep in downside and has sexual needs too, of course she's going to make a stupid decision with her hellacious demon cock

>>385588282
I kept Hedwyn until final rite and kept Ti'Zo forever and it was pretty great. Jodi and Rukey went up early (after settling it with Barker) because they also laid great groundwork up there.

Hedwyn was just too much of the Master-General to go early.

>>385588035
I doubt Oraclech would know the Voice is Brighton, maybe he would recognize his voice but only people who've read the book of rites know that readers that ascend can become the Voice

>>385588325
Oralech states that the plan is something he and Volfred came up with. The plan is another reason Volfred wanted to avoid the voice's notice

>>385587907
what happens if you don't take the beyonders orb vs taking it

>>385588425
Jodariel is Hedywn's biggest confidant.

I was happy that they got multiple double events, but there were very few events with them AND Rukey after the first ascension

>>385582557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEkA-jfCq5k

>>385588463
Brighton wasn't a reader. He was a regular Nightwing with Erisa and Oralech.

>>385588492
It's just a really depressing interaction of you making her super sad and the crystal going inert, it's objectively the worst choice.

>>385588492
Mostly just if you take it, after hearing the epilogue about nobody knowing what happened to the orb after the rites ended, Sandra pops up and redicules how vague and dumb the stories are, and you can respond to that.

>>385588569
Y I K E S
I
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S

>>385588520
Joke's on you, I became Hedwyn's biggest confidant instead, and he had touching stuff with Bertrude and all, too.

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so how is this game? im considering picking it up on the artstyle alone.

>>385588636
And now you know why it's the Zulf of this game.

>>385588689
It's 70% living in a beautiful story book and 30% the space jam.

>>385588559
That's pretty good yo but I like the non acoustic version it gives me bastion vibes in some parts of the songs just like snake soul

>>385588689
The space jam is fun. Probably about 45-50% of the entire thing. The first few matches are pretty basic so you can pick up the fundamentals. A lot of people find it a few matches too many which is fair but they just keep adding layer on layer to the onion for like half the game.
The Oregon Trail segments are mostly good writing and good art. But there's some decision making, some of it is cosmetic, some of it can affect your next match, game makes you make a lot of hard decisions too, the hard decisions affect both story and gameplay in a really creative way. (I dont want to spoil it)

>>385588729
It's that much at the start but later in the game it swings more in favor of the space jam I feel like

>>385588901
desu agreed, but the acoustic version caught me by surprise in game after listening to the regular one so many times

Are there any dunk gifs/webms yet like Bertrude doing her big dunk into the Pyre and the burning up animation, or Hedwyn's laid-back floating down into it?

I need it so I can shitpost Space Jam lyrics and post them with the dunk gifs.

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This truly is the OTP

>>385588986
The onion in this case is like depth and shit.

>>385589046
Notably the Beyonders Sigil is also the same symbol the Reader's Rags and Volfred's forehead have on them.

>>385589046
Do you think they give him a ghost waifu so that they can fuck in his dreams with him uncrippled because it's a dream and real/counts because she's a ghost?

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>>385588567
According to the book readers on the path to enlightenment will eventually become a/the voice. Remember Sandalwood was brought in to replace Brighton and Volfred served as both reader and one part of the triumverate during the rites(he was explicitly stated to have worn the rainments before)

>>385589113
She's been in there for so long she's actually looped back around. And based her symbol off of their symbol.

>>385589032
I don't have the game yet so this is news to me but that's good to hear I wonder what other songs will probabaly be realesed as a seconed soundtrack of extra songs in Pyre just like in transistor

>>385589127
But its not some mystical thing. Its just whoever is in charge.
The current voice is just one of the leaders of the commonwealth. Him saying you could be the one to replace him wasn't anything mystical. It was just him offering you a job.

>>385589113
The symbol is the mark of a reader isn't it? Hedwyn and co identify you as one based on its presence on your cloak

>>385589194
If you click the lute that is sitting in your wagon it has a shitload of acoustic versions of songs apparently. I assumed it was just a sound test and then some anon in another thread told everyone

>>385589127
Yes dude, I posted that screenshot last thread. But that doesn't mean that the privilege is exclusive to Readers, and I don't recall Brighton being mentioned as a reader, nor is one necessary for every triumvirate. I'm also not entirely sure its ever said Volfred did serve as a Reader and not literally just a rites conductor. He just happens to be able to read and had a lot of time on his hands, but since he "conducted the rites firsthand" he has the regular way out, while the On Legacy page specifically says there's a one-shot at the end of the age for Readers who do not conduct firsthand.

>>385589194
They'll have their hands full releasing all the variants.

The Liberation Rite song has 20 versions at least, since it has different lyrics for every Triumvirate you face, and then a different backing track behind those lyrics depending on if the Nightwings are currently ahead or the others are currently ahead.

The credits song must have hundreds of possible combinations, even.

>>385589301
ah cool what other songs from the soundtrack also have acoustic versions

>>385589298
It would make sense since the Commonwealth marked Volfred with it aswell then (on his forehead) but makes it weird for the Beyonders to have it as sigil, since they were Sisters of the Arch.

>>385589481
No idea I never checked

>>385589502
Maybe it's a play on hows she's blind

>>385589723
Almost everything except for The Blackwagon (flight theme), Never To Return and Bound Together I think.

>>385589805
Fucking christ that's a ton

>>385589792
She's not the only Beyonder, though.

I really want them to release a OST version of Bound Together where everyone has "found their way home". Basically the one impossible to get from actually playing, but the most comfy one.

>>385589957
yeah that would be nice i thought the bound together that was on the soundtrack was the true version but after listening to again it's sadly not

>>385590168
Doesn't that one have it's own wording though?

>>385589792
>>385589863
Weren't the Beyonders assassins before reading was outlawed and the outlawing of reading was because of them or something?

>>385590224
They were alive before the 8 scribes were the 8 scribes

>>385590223
>>385590168
Yeah it's a completely unique version. Most of it is in duet, aswell, whereas the people left behind in the ingame one are usually a solo voice.

>>385590224
The outlawing of reading was by Androbeles VI because it caused unrest (and made the party line they forced people like Volfred to teach easier to contradict) in the Commonwealth.

The Sisters of the Arch were trained assassins that willingly plunged to Downside in pursuit of Soliam Murr when he was a shit emperor to go and kill him, and found him shortler after Ha'ub did, a changed man. But they didn't care, or at least Sandra didn't.

Other Scribes showed up cause Khaylmer Rope-Caller had tricked them and ended up saving Soliam.

If you aren't able to do all 8 training missions with Sandra, like say, you ascend _ae during the first ascension before she even gets offered the chance, will you be able to take Sandra with you at the end?

>>385590465
Sandra offers people the chance when they reach Enlightenment 3, so its up to you to influence it. Plus you get to send your top 3 enlightened (or anyone who is at max if more than 3 are at max), and chances are that'll put her at 3+.

>>385572258
The gameplay really is retarded and the story pretentious

No idea how they made bastion and transistor

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>>385590305
I like that one because it implies it doesn't matter where they end up they still have each other in a way.

>>385590531
Try replaying Bastion and Transistor and see if you feel the same about them now. Might be its you that changed, because these guys didn't much.

>>385590531
I don't think it was pretentious at all.

Transistor would be easier to accuse of being pretentious

>>385590465
I didn't do one with TyZo and sent him up first and she still offered

>>385590573
I just want a special OST version where everyone gets their "Found their way home" line for maximum comfy.

Though there's at least 2 if not more lines for every character before that, depending on some choices and (possibly) mastery trees.

Many say their Bertrude got the "enchantments" line, but my (freed) Bertrude had "struck at her foes with the blackest of curses".

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>>385590592
>>385590598
>Actually responding to that low quality b8

>>385590592
>>385590598
Defense force incoming

>>385590646
Good to know

>>385590646
Is Ty'Zo like Ti'Zo's black cousin?

>>385590689
Yeah, enchantments is unascended, curses is ascended

Sorta like how the narration states Hedwyn wasn't a deserter if he stays behind but says something else if he ascends.

>>385590770
Ye nigga

Is it impossible to liberate everybody on your team eaven yourself

>>385590862
Iunno, some guy said his ascended Bertrude got Enchantments aswell.

>>385590465
I think the only criteria is that you repeatedly ask what's on her mind each time you can.

>>385591049

no you have to do trials for everyone, no exceptions

>>385591098
Sandra wants you to git gud to be your waifu.
Also as a female Reader it seems like I got way less from Sandra. Never heard any "lascivious" stuff.

>>385591098
Someone already said that he didn't do one and got it
>>385591171
Did you humor her during the epilogue?

>>385591098
I definitely probably missed TiZos

>>385591256
That's also the one people complain about getting rekt on because Savages are too OP.

>>385591319
It's pretty easy if you just hide behind the wall next to the ball spawn and explode whenever anyone tries to grab it, then run into the goal unopposed

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>boot up game
>10 seconds in the game gives me the gender netural pronoun option
>close game
>request refund

>>385591319
Didn't do that one for sure then.

Rukey and Sir Gilman where my tough ones.

>>385591432
Just change it to male you nerd.
It literally affects nothing

>>385591432
Congrats, you're another one of those guys who played themselves by getting butthurt over a randomized default.

>>385591432
This, I'm not sure why people play this SJW libcuck jewish marxist degenerate anti-white shariablue propaganda

>>385591575
With Rukey, you basically just gotta bait the demons away from the goal, then run around them.
I watched my brother do it on hard earlier today, and he completed it without getting scored on once.

>>385591575
were*

>>385591659
Y'all need to get in on how good auracasting on Cur's is. They're snipers. Demons have shit hope, too.

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>3 replies within seconds
Fucks sake guys

>>385591432
not only that, literally 10 seconds after that the game states that the female masked figure was the "most imposing". Shit is oozing with cultural marxist propaganda. Sucks that games are like this nowadays.

>>385591769
She's twice the size of the others, with giant horns and muscles.

Obviously calling her imposing is propaganda.

>>385591734
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I just sniped them myself, but my brother sucked at actually aiming the auras. He'd always shoot wide

He also tended to panic whenever they closed in on his goal, he generally tried to score even while all 3 were up

>>385591769
Don't forget the entire plot is to form a cucked multicultural bluepilled democratic union instead of a redpilled theocratic state which respects and follows traditional values.

It's just another shill game for liberals.

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>>385591769
She basically got Corruption of Champions'd into musclegirl fetish bait.

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>>385591827
Making her that way is propaganda, aside from land whales what other females around you are actually bigger than the average male? unless you are, of course, a fucking nerd manlet

>>385591220
Wait does humoring her give a different outcome than the other two choices?

>>385591981
But she isn't bigger than the males of her race.

>>385591981
I want to propaganda at her demon pussy tbqh m8

>>385591981
I know I'm biting bait, but she wasn't naturally so imposing. It was the effect of being in Downside for over a decade. Any human who stays in Downside for too long grows into a big horned demon, guys too

All the other women are normal sized

>>385592090
Well, not all the other women.

Big Bertrude is legitimately big.

>>385592029
Different dialogue, yea

>>385592146
But there's no Bog Wizards to match the Bog Witch

>>385592146
Bertrude is some medusa thing

And she looks like an old lady.

Do you think Darren Korb ever regretted them naming her Jodariel when he had to fit her name into song lyrics?

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>The Bog Witch enemies epilogue involves her entire old god worshipping cult dipping out on her because they decide she's too much crazy for them to handle
>She blows up a fucking mountain

>neogaf shill thread still ongoing

>>385592350
What happens if she ascends epilogue wise?

>>385592350
I don't think mine did that, but I also did the special thing where you invoke the Titan Star and Bertrude curses her and permanently lowers her Hope.

>>385592168
Fuck, I suppose I'll just play the last fight again to see.

>>385592507
I did not do that. Which probably explains that.

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Do the other teams have Readers too? Where are they?

>>385592507
>>385592590
I did the hope lowering thing too and got the ending where she blows the site up after alienating everyone

>>385592679
They don't.

Lore wise, I think the reader just gives the Nightwings some sort of ability boost or influences their movements somehow.

>>385592679
Readers are optional and meant for teams requiring guidance or something. Other teams know the rites as an oral tradition.

>>385592685
Iunno, after I cursed her they somehow still managed to get favor despite taking the big hit from losing to the Nightwings and faced me in the liberation rite after it and lost. Maybe that did it. Also my Bertrude was ascended.

>>385592842
My bertrude was ascended and I beat them at a liberation rite.

I dunno what causes her to blow herself up or not.

So Celeste is Celeste because celestial and the minstrels are from the stars

But what is Tariq supposed to mean?

>Ṭariq is used in classical Arabic for the one who travels at night time —a night visitor— as the bedouin Arabs normally found it that a traveler from long distances would usually arrive at night avoiding the scorching heat

>>385593274
Tariq arrives at night to blaspheme at the gate.

Man, I hope they release an alternate version of the OST
But I'm not sure if they could get all the music even then.

Theres like 16 versions of Never To Return
Maybe they'd only do the Enemy team has advantage version of each one

>>385593494
There's at least 20 I think.

There's one version of just the lyrics for each Triumvirate including Nightwings/True Nightwings and the Beyonders picked on who you are facing, and then those lyrics are underlaid with a backing track based on whether you're winning or they are winning, with the Nightwings theme or the adversaries theme becoming dominant in the background.

>>385593724
Even never to return has alternate verions as well geez

>>385593874
Nowhere near as many as Bound Together must have.

>>385593956
I mean, in a sense theres only 2 versions of Bound Together.

The "They stayed true til the end" verse and the "They found their way home" verse. And the melody and instrumentation is the same for both

Never to Return has different melodys and instrumentation for every single team, with 2 versions of the song for each match up, with the team that has the advantage having their theme be stronger.

Its much bigger in scope than Bound Together

>>385591432
>>385591981

desu your qualms are focusing on minor quirks of the game, that are not even the worst part of why this game is so underwhelming. SGG advertised this game as a party based RPG, which is completely a lie. It has nothing of RPG to it, if you say otherwise you may be retarded or ignorant. The game is visually stunning, and the soundtrack doesn't fall short from other SGG titles. Yet all this is ultimately undermine by how lame the gameplay is, I can't emphasize enough, if you are thinking of refunding it because of it, do it now, because it ain't changing. All you saw in the tutorial is all there is to the game's gameplay. The game will add obstacles and some other minor changes to the field, but the AI can't even alter the way it behaves based on this. I'm so disappointed and aghast that SGG decided to spawn this shit after practically two 10/10 games.

>>385594105
No. Stayed True To The End is a unique version that is NOT ingame. It's exclusively on the soundtrack and the "Stayed True To The End" line is usually sung in duet.

The line for people you did not liberate in the actual game is "And remained till the end", and is usually sung by only one of the voices.

>>385594176
I mean its rpg elements are not deep by any stretch of the word, but to say they are non-existent would be wrong too.

Characters gain experience through use and level up, allowing them to learn new skills. And you can upgrade their stats with items, events and accessories to improve their performance.

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has anyone brought themselves to lose every promotion fight yet

>>385594305
I think the fact you're literally roleplaying as the reader to a massive degree is the point to focus on here.

>>385584550
>tfw i just let him win

>>385594245
Okay, 2.5 versions of the song, since the rest of the verse is the same.

Still not quite Gone Forever level

>>385594494
Well, consider that it has a billion permutations because of who did or didn't go free. I know they probably won't release that many, but it's got Never To Return beat in that way. Everyone's hearing a fairly unique version for their ending.

>>385582341

>Grant and Asher Kendrell

They're married, Asher took Grant's name.

>>385584678

It needs to be a last goal left game, and you have to let him win if you want him to survive as well.

He also does not permit another to ascend if he wins, the offer is only for Reader.

>>385594589
I mean, yeah, it has more possible permutations, but the effort put into the permutations of Gone Forever is greater since they actually have different lyrics, melodies, and instruments.

Bound Together is just different lyrics to the same melody and instrumentation

>>385594667
There is no song called Gone Forever.

>>385594690
Never to Return, whatever

>>385594176
>>385594305
>tfw "RPG" now means having the "RPG elements" that FPS' claim they have, like skilltrees
>tfw being a role-playing game isn't being a game in which you spend the entire time playing a role

>>385591098

False, I missed Hedwyns.

I wish you could romance Bertrude. Without Sandalwood returning her affection i want to make the slug granny smile.

>>385595056
>Are you laying flirtations upon me?

>>385595056
Hedwyn unintentionally/accidentally tries to romance her.

>>385594862
it's an arpg shaped like a sports game stuck between the pages of a visual novel

>>385595125
Oh I know I just wish you could go further and actually proclaim feelings, like you can for Jodi. Even if she turned you down like jodi I think it would be sweet for her to know someone likes her since she spends a lot of her time being alone.

>>385595125
He doesn't even try, he's just thanking her for the things she did.

She just assumes hes hitting on her

>>385595235
One of my favorite scenes is honestly after you liberate Sir Gilman and you find Bertrude saying the old prayer that isn't really said anymore for him.

>>385595343
Yeah, and she gets all flustered when she sees you, and makes up reasons why she's saying it. I really grew to like her a lot. More than I thought I would give how she acts early on

>>385595439
I don't think she gets flustered or "makes up" reasons.

She flatly states that Wyrms and Crones are distant kin and kin is still kin so she wants to give him blessings for his return to the Commonwealth and wants to finish the prayer before he reaches it and is slightly upset she has to start over because you interrupted her.

I wish we could get a full version of the prayer.

>>385595439
Yeah, it was good that she had personality that wasn't just "unapproachable crotchety witch"

>>385595537
But remember guys, this game has bad writing and that one anons old english professor said not to write this kind of middleschool shit.

Are there any lewds for this game yet?

>>385595507
The whole distant kin thing felt like she was covering for the fact that she just liked him as a person. That's how it read to me anyway. Not that she was lying about them being kin, but about that being the real reason.

>>385595582
paheal only has 2 sketches of a nude Jodariel atm

>>385595604
I think the covering for liking him part is when she talks about how noisy he was.

>>385595582
I'm still surprised at the amount of lewd made for Transistor, considering there's Red and that's about it.

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>Pamitha Theyn, born on guilty wings, ever seeking forgiveness
>she stayed true to the end

Why is being Pam such suffering? Everyone else gets a happy ending in the credits except for her

>>385595665
>Jotariel
Whytho

>>385595854
>literally a character in the lore who betrayed Red because she was pissed that Red wasn't a lesbo
>who you fight as a boss while she sings one of Red's songs

C'mon my dude

>>385595892
The guilty wings thing is the line you get for not liberating her, though. True to the end is also only on the OST.

Liberating her gets you a different line.

>>385595892
In my ending she met with Rukey and Bertrude up top. Tamitha didn't write back, but Pam still wrote her to fuck with her and "stir her feathers" or some shit.

>>385595892
Even if you free her she still kinda ends up unhappy in the ending

>>385579539
It's pretty much the same as for a guy reader really. Sandra doesn't care what's in your pants, you'll get ghostjobs regardless

>>385595968
I mean I know but, I kept her and _ae in the Downside and _ae got a nice ending still. I even made sure to go up against Essence as often as possible and that's still the line I got.

>>385596126
The line you would get ingame for keeping someone in Downside is "And remained till the end."
True to the end is only on the OST.

>>385596167
Yes I know. That's not the part I'm talking about.

>>385596226
I don't really think its possible to get any sort of happy ending for her becuase she's only happy 1) topside and 2) with her sister. But that means letting her sister topside and then it's not happy either.

>>385596273
if the sisters both go up they still don't get along
they reach a kind of truce after tamitha cripples pam's wing as payback

>>385596507
At least Tamitha doesn't get interrogated for being a fucking retard if they're both up I guess.

>>385596507
Tamitha doesn't always cripple Pamitha if they both ascend.

>>385586767
They were old enough to post on 4chan the day they played it, just not to be honest about their age on 4chan.

>>385597559
You know what he meant boyo

I hope we can get ripped character portraits soon. I want postable Hedwyn.

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>>385597743
I want a transparent background version of this smug fuck

>>385597886
Sir Gilman alone with his various emotional poses and eyeball variations is a treasure trove.

>>385593724
>never to return has a version for the beyonders
really? why would they have a verse for a fight that never happens ingame?

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>>385597886
Speaking of backgrounds
Anyone else got one?

i finished the game and i feel so alone

fuck

>>385600267
It's okay anon we've all been there

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBi5Dd1vn4A

Fighting the Fate always makes me feel like just the worst

>>385600631
>fought the Fate as often as possible because I knew I would be keeping _ae behind
>they met up after the rites were over and travelled the Downside together for the rest of their days

It was worth it.

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What the fuck was this guy's problem?

>>385601601
he's buttmad he got caught framing people into exile and got exiled for it

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>>385600631
they breath in before every verse

>>385601601
Gimped by the Imp

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>>385601601

>>385595892
I liberated both her and her sister and even though the reconcile after a fight and she becomes some sort of diplomat between the Harps and the Union it still says that without a war Tam grew distant and Pam couldn't find a place in either the Harps or in the Union, sometimes missing her crippled wing. She probably got the shittiest ending in my playthrough, but I don't know how to make it work out for her any other way.

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>>385601601
name a more fucked character

>>385596697
What does it take for her not to cripple her, a bloodless revolution? Because it says that she "forgives" her only after they exchange blows.

Which exile has the most stylish raiment?

>>385601601
Some faggot lol, I fought him twice only. The second time he bitched about Ti'Zo and then in the epilogue he went mad refusing to admit that there are no longer any pathway home and rites are done. His guys left him, and he turned into a demon.

>>385602101
I didn't get a crippled pam. I didn't free her sister, and had a bloodless revolution.
I was this anon >>385596015

>>385602270
Yes but the anon above said he can get them both to ascend and not have Pam allow herself to be crippled.

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>>385597886
for your shitposting needs

>>385602623
thank you friend, you're a good poster

>>385602623
Very nice

>>385602623
Quality

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>>385602623
at least clean it up

>>385602909
ty

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>>385602909
thanks

ironically i was just about to post a fixed version, didn't see those weird pixels near his hair until i posted

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>>385602909
I'm anutist and tried a second time

Good game, was worth the pre-order money,

>>385595927
Because the sketches are from when the game was first announced and Jodi was the only known female character.

>>385604768
Sandra pics fucking when

>>385605291
Sandra is for imagination.

>>385605291
Never Ever

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>>385584678
>>385584550
Felt amaising lads

>>385605408
>>385605554
No fuck you, I want Sandra to laugh while fingeringme

verdict on the game?

Is it good?

>>385605756
Eh, honestly, the events of the Reader going to Commonwealth and so lackluster you might as well stay and let him go.

>>385591432
t. brainlet

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>>385605848
yeah it was good, there is a bit of reading, but that is in no way a bad thing.

>>385605848
It's Great if you're not a dumb dumb

>>385605848
8/10 where 5 is average, not the IGN scale.

>plz buy muh gaem

>>385605848
not really, no
the story sections have nice touches to the visuals, but the gameplay is meh

>>385606197
>>385606159
>>385606054
guess I'll grab it then

>>385606219
Anon? Didn't make it.

>>385606224
Make sure you play with a controller on Heightened difficulty. The game is too easy with a mouse and takes a while to pick up either way.

>>385606327
Or he can play properly with a lot more fluidity with a mouse and just activate the AI Titan Star.

>>385606402
Mouse aiming makes things too easy IMO. The game really feels like it was made for controllers but the devs didn't have the guts to say "only play this with a controller". It's the Flinthook situation all over again.

>>385606224
When you get the chance, dont choose your first 3 exiles. save them for after you get their late game scenes

>>385596554
She's practically exiled back straight away.

Your final three during the last rite?
Mine were Bertrude (As champion, _ae and Jodariel.

>>385602164
Ti'Zo

>>385606473
That's because forcing someone to use an inferior system of control is super frustrating to the player. If they literally want to aim a certain way but can't because you're forcing their controls to be too bad to let them that's not difficulty, that's just garbage.

I probably would've liked Bastion a whole lot less if I had had to go through the agony of aiming ranged weapons with a fucking analogue stick because its a constant frustration.

>>385602440
To my knowledge it is physically impossible. You cannot have a truly 100% happy ending with both of them. It's bittersweet no matter what.

>>385608515
I mean, it's a happy ending because that's the only way for them to properly reconcile and for Tametha to let go off her grudge - so it's kind of happy? Pamethas' story is melancholic regardless of what you do I guess. I wonder what happens if they both stay in Downside.

>>385608628
It's not, though. Her obsession with her sister is unhealthy. She ends up ruining her life to get that reconcilation, and it's a hollow one at that. That's the point of that ending.

>>385608438
That's what a lot of games are about though, right? Soccer is about using an inferior control system: your legs. It would be another game if you had to use your arms.

Bastion, I think, actually works better with a mouse.

>>385572258
Weakest game from them so far. Ending is pure trash. Not a bad game, but the weakest. Music is nice like always.

>>385605925

I disagree. If you let him stay, he reconciles with Ti'zo and Sandlewood.

>>385609685
Pyre>Bastion>Transistor IMO. I didn't even finish Transistor.

>>385601601

He got fucked by the Nightwings and then they never showed up again.

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>>385584550
Fuck i let him die, now feel bad, fuck you

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>>385584550
Hold there mate, I just tried this - Oralech refuses to let your champion to be free, says he or she already had their chance, he says the offer is to you and you alone.

>>385572258
>see new game from supergiant
>looks like party rpg from the screenshots
>get excited
>play the actual game
>it's fucking fantasy handegg

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TI'ZO THE WISE EVER FAITHFUL TO THE CAUSE OF THE NIGHTWINGS

HE REMAINED TILL THE END

>>385572258
Have the developers stated if it's going to be released on GOG?

>>385610928
THE GREAT MASTERMIND
VOLFRED SANDALWOOD
[spoil]SAW HIS PLAN TURN TO ACTION[/spoil]
HE STAYED TRUE TILL THE END

>>385611307
>using OST version instead of ingame

>>385611307
>tfw you're not a great mastermind so you accidentally wrote spoil instead of spoiler
This is why people under 25 shouldn't post about Volfred. Forgive me scribes for I have sinned

I don't like heavy reading in videogames (specially written like this since English is not my first language) and I shouldn't like the gameplay because it derives so much from what I like but loved this fucking game and I will never understand why.

>>385611519
Good way to improve your english

>>385611519
Because Supergiant makes videogames like videogames used to be made, and like many beloved series were spawned that then became hulking, decaying husks. Their games feel like stuff like the early Ultima series, where everyone who made it was super invested and basically making their dreams.

>>385611345
Eh, ingame version reminds me that I couldn't save them all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNCiUwNAgtk

>>385611635
>tfw learned english and American history by playing Mario's Time Machine on SNES as a kid
>not even American.

>>385611685
OST version uses the not-liberated first line for all of them though, whereas you get a lot of the liberated and super comfy "found their way home" ingame.

>>385611775
Not exactly, it says "he stayed true till the end" instead of "he remained till the end" which is the non-liberated line.

>>385611897
I'm talking about the FIRST line. Only a non-liberated Hedwyn gets the line about being a Deserter, only a non-liberated Bertrude gets the line about Enchantments, only a non-liberated Pamitha gets the line about guilty wings.

All the first lines are the bad ones on the OST version.

>>385611995
Fair enough, though I'm sure my Pamitha had the guilty wings despite being liberated - maybe my memory.

>>385612093
I want them to release a version where everyone gets their liberated line and a "Found their way home".

Though I also want a no liberation version where its "Remained till the end" instead of "stayed true to the end".

>>385572258
Hard truths post:

Sandra is best girl
Pamitha is second best girl (by the admission of the best girl)

Heartless monster checklist:
>separating Bae and Almer
>not liberating based Fate in general
>separating Jod and Ignarius
>being mean to Oralech after seeing his exchange with Ti'zo

>>385612779
Chae and Almer never even started during my playthrough because I didn't meet the Fate much I guess. She was liberated during the last rite before the final one with basically nothing going on with Almer.

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>>385612779
>Sandra is best girl
Yup
>Pamitha is second best girl
Wrong, Jodi is the second best girl you swine.

>>385613148
Her horns look heavy.

>>385602065
He was fucked up beyond help way before he got exiled though

>>385613285
>used to answering stuff in a game way, complementing everyone just to see their reaction and not speaking like a human being
>jodi is fidgeting with her horns
>"yeah no you look great with them"
>"i'm glad my eternal suffering and inability to sleep pleases you"
shit

>>385613497
Wish there was a "Do you think I'll look good with horns?" question since at that time you think there's no way to escape for you.

>>385605756
This is some "top 10 anime redemption stories" right here

I wish the demon shit affected other species