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Days until Mania: 21
New track: "Dimension Heist", the Special Stage theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q
Remember, the leak is fake. Don't get fooled by anyome.
Also remember to report people posting unmarked spoilers about bosses and other potential leaks. Please try to get along!
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>>384958927
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>>384959189
Obligatory post.
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>>384959189
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>>384958927
I'm going to change my pasta, so here goes nothing.
Daily reminder that if you hate Sonic Mania by any stretch of the imagination that instantly transforms you into a fucking pleb.
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>>384959354
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Metropolis Zone is not that bad and it's a really fun stage
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>>384959460
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>>384958523
Gotta try that when I grab 3&K again. Thanks bro, your awesome.
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>>384959478
>chuckles in front of you
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I was already gifted Mania on Steam from an anon on /vg/, so I'm hyped. If it wasn't for the fact that the game won't be 100% new stages & the lack of a playable Amy, this would be my dream Classic Sonic game.
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>>384959925
Wait unti, hopefully, the sequel anon. We'll get exactly that.
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>>384959458
>Namefagging

Come on man, I thought you were just Tomposter, which was cool and all, but now you're namefagging.

Not cool man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLucCUG4i0
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>>384960009
Fine then, I guess this was a bad idea. Back to normal.
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Is it okay that dispite the amount of times I've played Sonic 1/2/3K I've never got all the emeralds or played as Super Sonic in any of them, I would always give up fairly quick and just play each game to complete it in one run because I found it more fun to just blast through the levels and get as many under a minute continues as possible, rather than exploring (and as a kid i hated all the special stages including blue sphere).
I barely ever even saw the end of any of the games bar Sonic 2

Gonna try and do it for all of them before Mania comes out though.
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>>384959478
ASSEMBLES TROOP A.S.S (Asteron/Slicer/Shellcracker)
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>>384959925
>this will never happen to you
Why live then
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>>384959983
Fair enough. It also kinda sucks that I'm gonna have to get Forces on the PS4, as I am really looking forward to seeing what mods are gonna be out for that game.
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>>384960151
i told you man
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>>384960241
UMA DELICIA
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>>384960151
namefagging isn't much of a problem, it's that you got a trip when all u do is shitpost about contrarians
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Anyone worried about the Act 1s? Chemical Plant looks so boring.
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>>384959478
I don't think any Sonic 2 zone is that bad at all (including Oil Ocean and Metropolis) but that's due to me playing the game so many times
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>>384960512
Nah, it's replaying both Acts 1 and 2 at the same time with some minor changes in between. The zones the crew picked are all the most enjoyable ones from the classic titles. What's the problem? (sorry, my Tom library is almost full of angry reacts with some others)
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>sonic was never good
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>>384960775
>forgetting the damn pic even if it is a reaction
Man this fucking job is hard.
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>>384960824
for the uninformed: they're fucking pressing left in the loop when sonic starts to move left in it. pathetic.
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>>384960151
Sorry wait, >>384960487
was right.

Namefag all you want, just don't trip.
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>>384960241
Listen man, it's when you show fear that the Asterons get you. You're running up that screw and you see one of those fuckers? You don't hesitate for a second.

Then they won't hit you. Legit, just keep running, and they won't touch you. Don't let go of that direction for even a second.

Slicers and Shellcrackers are obnoxious though. But I never really struggle too much with them. Sometimes.

>>384960702
Sonic 2 is such a good pick-up-and-play game. I mostly just dick around on the mobile port or the 3DS version because they're easy to boot up fast.
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>>384960824
IGN is fake news

MAKE SONIC GREAT AGAIN
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>>384960824
>literal child can pick up sonic and run through a loop
>grown adults struggle with the idea

IGN was a mistake.
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It really is admirable what the Sonic branding has been trying to do pretty much since they let their PR guy cut loose on Twitter. The IDW and Mania thing screams fresh start...I really hope Forces is not as bad as it's looking in gameplay right now. I really root for this franchise to find its way, it has come close a few times.
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SATAN'S CHERRY BLOSSOM
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>>384960824
Please tell me this isn't real.
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>>384961180
see
>>384960897
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>>384961138
Sonic's on a good track right now. Like him or not Aaron is basically saving this franchise's rep a good chunk by constantly shitposting on the Twitter. He's doing a great job at putting Sonic in a light where people are both laughing at and with SEGA.

Sure, the games not being awful anymore helps too, but Aaron is making people laugh with the dumb Sonic memes, and that's really all the company needs - positive press.
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>>384960824
IGN sucks at Sonic, what else is new?

>>384961138
Honestly, I'm not worried at all about Forces. The only problem the Modern stages have is how linear it is, but that's usually less of a problem in the later stages. Classic is gonna be the weakest part of the game, but so long as it's not outright broken like 06, it'll be fine.
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>>384961270
>t. Aaron
I agree with you. I like the Eggman vids on the Sonic youtube they're pretty funny
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>>384961138
Honestly in my opinon I would prefer a return to the mess that was the Adventure games if it means no more 2D shit in Modern sonic games. 2D should stay in classic games and handheld games (like the Advanced/Rush-style games)
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>>384961358
the Modern City Height stage*
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>>384961270
>>384961443
It also helps that he's not afraid to say something. That infamous IGN video from last year Aaron was right there calling them out on their bullshit.
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>Fun is Infinite
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>>384961443
Aaron is our guy
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>>384960824
Seen this so many times, still chuckling
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>>384961568
He actually called them out? When did he do that?
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>>384961568
Aaron's just a good voice for the community. He knows what to say and he know what people want to hear.

But I do agree that he's not afraid to say things though. I remember during one of the Sonic livestreams that he mentioned that there was no Mania demo being released not only because it would eat up development time to get it through all the Sony/Microsoft/Steam probably services, but also because people would just mine it immediately.

He gave people what they wanted - a straight up response, with no dancing around the subject. That's what people want.
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>>384961707
on the "sonic was never good" OG video sonic youtube posted a comment along the lines of "you think sonic wasn't ever good? wanna come on our show and discuss it?"
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>>384961568
>That infamous IGN video from last year Aaron was right there calling them out on their bullshit.

Gimme dat
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>>384960978
THIS THIS THIS

When I was a kid I never even paid any attention to them I just kept spinning and laughed when every one of their points missed me.
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>>384961458
I agree with this. Or at the very least, cut down on the amount of 2D sections.

>>384961707
In the comment sections of that video, Aaron asked the people in that video to show up on one of the Sonic YT vids, so they can discuss their comments. IGN didn't respond. And when GT (I think) said Sonic hasn't had a good game in years, only for Aaron showed them rating Generations an 8 out of 10.
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>>384961270
forces will be alright similar to generations
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>>384961824
Thats a good Amy.
I appreciate this Amy, yes thank you friend. Good Amy yes.
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reminder lewd posting is basically as bad as that comic posting
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>>384962220
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Hey so does anyone remember that screen saver program that came with the Sonic PC bundle? man that was some comfy ass shit.

Pretty damn hype for Mania too.
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>>384960978
It's always my go to game for Sonic. I know 3&K is objectively better but I always have the most fun with 2 when speeding through it as fast as possible. 3&K is better for completing 100% though. Fuck the half pipe special stages.
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>>384962039
People just get scared because they see it approaching and assume you should just try to avoid it before moving on. You can just run straight ahead and ignore the fuckers and you'll be okay.

That one part in...Act 2 I think where you're on the moving platform and there's a bunch of them waiting for you is a pain in the ass because they're hard to avoid then. But every other time? Just run past.

Slicers are a pain in the ass I'll give people that. Feels like a coin flip if you avoid them or not.
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>>384962413
No anon.

When "That" comic posters die, they're sent to
a very special circle of hell where you have to play Sonic Labyrinth over and over again, with occasional breaks for the Mach sections in 06.

When lewd sonic posters die they might have to play through Sonic Hero's special stages once.

It's not even close.
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>>384962883
If 3&K ever gets a mobile port that'll be my go-to for sure. But I agree, 2 levels are fun to just blast through because of their short length and tight platforming. Not saying 3&K doesn't have tight platforming levels either, though.

3&K is for sure a game you have to sit down and play rather than 2 where you just pick a Zone and blast through some levels for a bit. You can do that in 3&K too but it feels a lot more fun just to blast through Angel Island to somewhere else. Maybe that's just me.
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>>384962990
BIG
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>>384959478
Mad Gear was better.
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>>384963120
THE
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>>384963259
CAT
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>>384963174
Well it for sure was easier.

I'd like Mad Gear more if it wasn't in Episode 1. At least the Episode Metal version was okay.
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Is there any way to preorder Mania on the Switch?
If not, do you think it will be a midnight release so I can refresh the eShop over and over again in the middle of the night?
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>special stage inspired by Sonic cd
Dead game
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>>384963120
>>384963259
>>384963351
the most misunderstood character in Sonic history
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>>384963367
I liked the pressure gimmick but the rotating gears were WAY too slow to be considered fun. Homing attack made quick work of of the annoying enemies though, thankfully.
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Where's my nigga I'm starting to get worried

>>384963570
You could put it on your watch list the moment it's listed and it will tell you when it's out but then again it's not even listed yet is it?
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>>384963570
Games on the eShop usually release at midnight EST of the launch date, so if you're in any other timezone in NA you get the game "a day early".
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>>384963637
and Sonic Heroes
>collecting spheres that increase speed to chase for the emerald
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>>384963570
Is spark good?
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>>384963830
Bubbles went from an annoying enemy to homing attack fodder. Poor guy.
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Alright faggots, let's see how long this takes me
it's gonna be a while
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>>384964162
Oh boy, good luck on that mess, Anon. I gotta say though, we only have like 21 days or something left, do you really think it's worth it?
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>>384964162
good luck, hopefully it's worth all the time that it takes to make it
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>>384964287
We could develop routes for the level before the game even comes out! It's genius, I tell you!
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>>384964287
I did that first map in just about a single day. Granted, it was from when I woke up to when I passed out, almost non-stop.

I don't have any days coming up that I could devote fully to it, but I'll definitely be done with it well before the promised time.
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>>384964053
I liked it
It has a kickass soundtrack, just like everything else Lake makes, some pretty fun gameplay, great spritework and backgrounds, some cool level themes, and an anime as fuck final boss
Some say the game is too long, which is justified by the fact that the game is 16 levels long, almost all of which are pretty long, some levels can be over 10 minutes long on a normal playthrough. but then again, it's just more content
the level design can get pretty shitty in some parts, that's my biggest gripe with the game
i'd try out the demo before buying the actual game to see if it's your kind of thing
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so did someone film the panel?
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>>384964070
Rest in spaghetti.

I liked Sonic 4's cool concepts between levels, it kind of felt like Lost World where it threw a lot of concepts together, but compared to Lost World 4's felt a lot more cohesive even if they weren't all that great. I hope a Sonic 5 made by Taxman's team is able to pump out a cool new gimmick every act like Dimps tried to do with 4.
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>>384958927

>OMG THAT GUY IS FROM SONCI.EXE M OG SO SCARY!!!!\\

furinking naggers man.
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>>384964763
Sonic 4 was a bit of a mess, but it was kind of fun. The stigma of episode 1 hurt episode 2 a lot, which is a damn shame because I think ep2 was a really fun game.

It had a lot of neat ideas though. Despite how easy it was to farm for lives, I liked Casino Street a lot. It was basically just Not Casino Night but a lot of the stuff with the automatic card-paths were cool.
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>>384964806
lol
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>>384958927
>THE leak
which
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>>384963637
>>384963990
Yeah I'm honestly a bit disappointed, it LOOKS gorgeous but I was hoping for a more puzzle/platforming special stage like all the other ones, rather than just MORE FAST
I always saw the special stages as a nice way to change the pace of the game and take a slower-paced breather from all the speedy platforming
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>>384964162
Oh my god thank you anon
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>>384964636
Just do a bit at a time and trickle the results
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>>384964162
Are you sure you'll be able to do this?
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>>384964956
I couldn't have fun playing Ep 2 because of how broken the wheel combo thing was - it basically made the game on-rails, like boost2win. So boring.
Cybershell p much nailed it again in explaining what was wrong with that game, though of course in comparison it 1 it's phenomenally better
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>>384965567
Yeah the superwheel was pretty retarded in how much they let you abuse it. Should have been time-based or something like that. I choose to avoid it unless necessary though.

Ep 2 is still an alright game, it's way better compared to 1, but I don't think it's awful. It felt like it was starting to get back up on it's feet but we never got an episode 3. Maybe that's for the better, but I dunno.
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>>384962990
>underwear made of sports tape.
It's ridiculous, but it turns me on so much...
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>>384964162
Oh wait, what is your workflow anon? Those youtube progress bars worry me

I figure the fastest way is to download the video at low res, then watch it in a video player and screencap manually with a hotkey, then drag and drop the screencap files into photoshop one at a time
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>>384964162
USE this as a reference bro
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So there's going to be an opening animation like CD.

But will there also be an ending animation like CD?
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>>384966103
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>>384966001
Screencaps stitched together in MSpaint, like last time.

Though unlike last time, it's still early enough in the map that I could switch to something smarter, like that.
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>>384960182
Same.
I love them but fuck playing them "the right way".
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>>384965779
I think you're the same Anon I talked to last thread, similar ideas are coming out. Favorite 4 zone? I'd say Mad Gear or Sylvania Castle, Death Egg mk II was cool but didn't really have any substantial acts.
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>>384959478
I feel the same way about Marble Garden.
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here, added this, because this needed to be added, was confusing some anons
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>>384966349
Small world, huh?

Probably White Park. It felt really unique and the zone was a lot of fun to blaze through. I do wish the carnival theme got explored a bit more, but it was still fun. The Metal Sonic boss fight was really fun too, and that fucking boss theme is so good. Probably my favorite track out of Sonic 4, alongside the Stardust Speedway remix.
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>>384966465
Yeah, I'll specify that it's Act 2.
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>>384966294
Oh shit this is what you want

I think I'll do mirage saloon
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>>384966357
Marble Garden is only really annoying when you're forced to use the top thing. Thankfully it's not that often and most of the times it's optional depending on your path, but it can still be really obnoxious to control.

The music is really solid though. Both act 1 and 2 have really good themes, I think it fits the setting pretty well. And the act 2 boss can be annoying but it's a really cool idea despite the boss being pretty easy.
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>>384966621
any reason to go with "PotPlayer" over VLC?
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>>384961707
Here's the comment on the game scoop video
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>>384966487
Yeah Metal Sonic was definitely the highlight of Sonic 4, every time he appears everything just gets a lot better. Sky Fortress with him releasing Badniks was badass even if the level was slow.

Nice talking to you Anon, but I gotta head out for tonight. Have fun in the thread, hope to see you around.
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Instruction manual scans when? I'm sure one of you in here went to the panel at SDCC.
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>>384966773
>That response
Did they think that was clever?
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>>384966749
Potplayer is better than VLC and that fact blew me away. It's even better at playing incomplete video than VLC. The only thing I've found that VLC does better is potplayer can't play videos in compressed archives like rar.

Potplayer's interface is awful though. There's literally way, way, WAY too many options and controls. Good luck if you forget where something is.
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>>384966773
>those dislikes
wew lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmMCjYKvaQ
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>>384959189
>No Super Emeralds in Sonic Mania
I imagine these are the emeralds from S3K that turned you into Hyper Sonic? Have they confirmed/denied whether or not getting the Chaos Emeralds and 50 coins in the game turn you into Super Sonic/Knuckles?
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>>384966807
Later, man. Good talk, it's nice to just talk about games that are mediocre sometimes without it being entirely negative.
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>>384966976
Listen, game journos aren't use to being inquired about their opinions on the spot.
Do you think it's fair for Sonic to blow the fuck out of these poor, defenseless critics?
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>>384967104
They talked about it, Aaron just said "wait and see".

Super Sonic/Knuckles is 100% in the game though. No way they would make the emeralds do nothing for them.
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>>384967098
alright, I take it back

lizuka isn't the worst person on this planet

these four are, holy fuck, end them
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I've been playing through Sonic 3 again w/ the Complete romhack and holy shit I forgot how hard the Super Emeralds are

The second stage just kicked my ass like three times
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Is it confirmed we're even collecting chaos emeralds in this?
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>>384967098
>getting put on blast by mike

>>384967441
They mentioned that the UFOs in the Special Stages have the emerald, so yeah. I think the manual mentioned it too.
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>>384967098
>even Mike responded
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>>384967410
which one? screenshot the beginning
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>>384967410
>Sonic 3 Complete

My fucking nigger. Probably the best way to play S3&K imo, it's a lot of QOL changes for the most part but it really does improve the experience a lot IMO. Never knew how useful being able to de-activate Super modes at will was until I played S3C.
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>>384967587
Human beings aren't physically capable of handling bantz like this. How the fuck could those guys have survived?
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>>384967670
This one
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>>384967202
I worried because the lack of Hyper Emeralds means Turbo Tails is gone.
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>>384966621
>>384966749
Yeah this is great anon

I downloaded the video in 1080p so the bitrate won't go to shit. Then I run the capture for around every 750ms and I set the resize to 426x240. Works perfectly so far.
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>>384968349
Yeah, I'd really like Super Tails to make a return so that there's a reason to even get the emeralds with him. They said no Super Emeralds but the manual did mention some kind of alternate energy that Tails picked up and the Hard Boiled Heavies are going for, so that's interesting.

Perhaps that'll be some bullshittery and give Tails his super form? If he doesn't get the Flickies I don't care, I just want my boy to be good again. ;_;
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>>384967410
>Got the Hyper Emeralds and effectively 100% the game back in the 90s as a kid
>tried to play it again years later and couldn't handle any of the Hyper Emeralds, ESPECIALLY that one

Young me made it look so damn easy.
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>>384968529
>If he doesn't get the Flickies I don't care

He needs the Flickies though.
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>>384968319
>that one last jump at the end that if you miss it you can't recover and you fuck up the entire special stage

I MISSED THAT ONE SO MANY FUCKING TIMES

FUCK
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>>384968501
Well actually 750ms is too fast, dialing down to 500
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>>384966357

remove the garden and I agree with you
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>>384968279
Why is Amy looking at Sonic so weird?
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>>384968319
just turn and keep following the spheres man
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>>384967410
>>384968575
actually I find them much easier now than when I was younger and didn't understand how the level wrapped
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>>384968661
Yeah the Flickies really helped Tails' super form stand out from "HE'S INVINCIBLE AND FAST", but I just mean that even if they're not there it's not a total loss.

Something is better than nothing, I suppose.
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>>384968668
*slow
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Oh and another tip. Start from the end of the level and go backwards in time when stitching the sceencaps together so everything will be preserved
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>>384960182
I get where your coming from anon, I'm not a big fan of special stages either. Breaks the immersion for me. Super Sonic/Hyper Sonic is a neat bonus but you don't really need a crutch when you've already memorized the levels (plus the same music repeating is a bit grating). The reward never seemed worth it, I play Sonic games to go fast and i'd rather hone my speed through practice than stopping and searching for special stages.
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you now realise we'll be at 20. MORE. DAYS tomorrow. the first 10 days are done with, a milestone of the month, get hype.

XXX REMAIN anon here
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Why didn't they get him to do art for Mania and Forces?
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>>384969587
why does he have two penises touching together for his eye sockets
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>>384968663

meanwhile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQgD22W5Gnk
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>>384969216
that said, I might change my mind for Mania considering the special stages are speed based
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>>384969587
Why does Sonic have dentures?
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>>384969587
Imagine if Ken did all the sprite work for Mania.
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>>384969587
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>>384969808
>Sonic Mania, with all new playable characters!
>Sonic the Hedgehog, Miles 'Tails' Prower,
>And Knuckles, And Lara-Su, And Knuckles' dad, and Knuckles' mother, and Julie-Su, and
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>>384968717
Its not that easy

>that one thats slightly smaller than the rest causing your muscle movement to get fucked up
>the one with 3 different pathways, 2 leading to a red sphere
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>>384969808
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Be honest, who has been fapping to sonic girls a lot this month?
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>>384970263
Not me because I'm not a furry
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>>384969587

Never post this again.
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>>384970263
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The Mania intro is going to be Hyper Potions, isn't it?
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>>384970263
With the sole exceptions of Vanilla and Rouge, Sonic characters are NOT for sexual.
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>>384970263
shame on you
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>>384969587
Great news for all Penders fans: He's ensuring a Christmas release date for TLSC!

Also, is this a fake?
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>>384970560
Probably. Hopefully it has really 90's sounding vocals like CD's openings.
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>>384970560
Probably
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>>384970686
>no sonic the fighters on fightcade

WHAT'S THE POINT IN GOING ON
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>>384970757
>Great news for all Penders fans: He's ensuring a Christmas release date for TLSC!

I hate that I know what that sentence means. Penders needs to stop existing in the most violent way possible.
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>>384970848
Guess it's too intense for people
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>>384970994
>knuckles is top tier in that game
>mfw
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>>384970686
>>
Archie Sonic is dead, long live the IDW Sonic.
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>>384970757
Meant to add: Because if it's not fake, I'm curious to know why Egoraptor is being thanked when he hasn't done anything for the Sonic series.
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>>384972016
He and the sonic twitter guy are friends.
Best I can think of.
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Will Eggman still be the final boss of this game?
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>>384972016
even worse, the ayy is on there
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>>384970757
DID THEY REALLY FUCKING PUT EGORAPTOR ON THERE JUST TO SPITE HIM FOR HATING SONIC

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>384958927
has there been any announcement of a physical release of the game on ps4 or something
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>>384960824
Actually infuriating
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>>384972365
No, I don't have a source for this but I recall Aaron saying he was pushing for it but so far no luck. All we got coming physical-wise are the Collector's Edition in pic related and the vinyl of some of the soundtrack.
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>>384972163
I doubt it's spite. Aaron pals around with Arin, sends him cupcakes, goes out of his way to mention Game Grumps every chance they get & now possibly this. This dude has a boner for Egoraptor
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>>384958927
I desperately want Sega to release Saturn controllers for use with consoles and PC. If they do this I will continue to love them forever.
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Will Eggman be the final boss, or will it be something else?
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>>384972562
He's trying to fatten up Arin with cupcakes for the eventual feast that'll transport us all to Mobius.
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>>384972574
You can always get the mayflash adapter with an original one
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>>384972097
No, it's going to be the Eggazord, made up of all five Heavies
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>>384972703
>Get to the end of the final stage
>Infinite appears
>TO BE CONTINUED IN SONIC FORCES
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>>384972774
I know but I would just love to have a great controller like the Saturn Pad in brand new condition.
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>>384972932
I've totally thought about this too. I sure as hell hope that's not the case.
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Just gonna wait for the eventual NiGHTS, Ristar and Puyo Puyo stage in Mania
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>>384972932
I mean, Infinite is the energy source Tails was picking up on, sooo
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>>384973130
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>>384972932
>>384973051
>>384973130
>>384973280
This won't happen.
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>>384972932
>>384973130
>>384973051
You'll have a final boss fight and then after the ending a cutscene will play where Infinite shows up and he ends going through portal to the Modern dimension. I think this would be kind of cool. I love when games have shit that connect to each other.
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Am I the only person who thinks all sonic levels should be taking cues from casino night? Casino night is the ultimate example of a fun sonic level both in design and aesthetics. I want a game full of Casino nights.
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>>384959478

It really isn't that bad. Aside from a few annoying aspects, the zone isn't buttfucking difficult. Scrap Brain zone from Sonic 1 kicks the shit out of it in terms of difficulty.
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>>384973439
casino is 100% boring unfun gimme that comfy star light
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>>384973439
No. I hate those slot machines.
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>>384972514
>no disc release
>vinyl of some of the record
>some
damn thats kinda dissapointing, data discs has a pretty good track record of including the entire soundtrack besides their shenmue release and now this i guess
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>>384973607
Yeah it's got it's annoying parts but I love just booting up Sonic 2 mobile and blazing through Metropolis.

Fuck the boss though. I hate the Metropolis boss.
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>>384972703
Eggman in his eggazord made from the corpses of the hard boiled heavies
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So I was playing sonic 3 complete recently and discovered something neat.
If you detranform from supersonic but you have a shield you can still preform a double jump before you hit the ground.
This lets you get some pretty serious height with a lightning shield way before you even come close to getting access to hypersonic although unfortunately you can't do it after hypersonic's air dash.
It opens up some sequence breaking options if you know the zone you're in well.
I thought it was worth mentioning here because you guys actually play these games.
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PHYSICAL

RELEASE

WHEN
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>>384973772
>some of the record
Soundtrack*
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>>384973780

Yeah, Metropolis zone is alright by me. The boss is kind of awkward to fight, you have to make such a huge jump to get over its barrier; and that last ditch effort laser sometimes trips me up.

The S3&K version was so much easier to handle.
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>tfw I am the definition of salt after yesterday's panel

genuine fucking salt, from lizukas mouth, confirmation, this is a direct sequel to sonic3k

but it isn't called sonic 4, because it is fucking TAKEN

Mania will be fantastic, but I will never forgive Sega for making that Sonic 4 game, you silly, silly fucks. Sonic 4 would of looked so fucking perfect with this game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-C7dzWn70g
>even cancelled sonic games have great music
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Most people are in agreement that even the worst Sonic games (ie, 06) have good soundtracks. So I'm going to flip this question on its head: Which Sonic game has the worst music?
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>>384974405
Sonic Chronicles
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SONICFAGS AND MANIAKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>384974405
Check out Sonic Boom, and uhh... that one on 3ds...Chronicles ?I believe there is a specific reason chronicles has shit music though, something about them having to make it in a week
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>>384974405
that one on sega channel
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>>384974405
chronicles if you even count it.
assuming you don't because it would win too easily then it would be any of the game gear games.
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>>384974469
Am I slow, what is this?
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>>384974405

Sonic Chronicles had a terrible soundtrack, no one can argue otherwise. I don't care if the music is based on classic Sonic games, each track was butchered.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvS_beXtXk
It could've been great bros
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>>384974587
this was MEANT TO BE MANIA'S SPECIAL STAGE

THEY REDEEMD MIRAGE SALOON, WHY NOT REDEEM THIS!!! SEQUEL IT YOU FUCKS!!! LOOK HOW GREAT IT LOOKS!

IT WOULD OF BEEN PERFECT!!!!!
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>>384974405
Chronicles m8 It's some of the worst sounding midi tunes I've ever heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08
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>>384974587
Is it possible for a game in this style to ever be officially released?
Like, there's no nonsense about why it can't be a thing today, right?
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>>384974469
already posted and nobody really cared.
It's a special thanks panel. They put people that buy the donuts on those.
I do wonder why there's so many e-celebs though. Definitely odd.
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>>384974587
This unironically looks x10 funner to me then Forces. I swear to god, I'm not even trying to bash it, this just looks great.
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>>384974582
Most of the Game Grumps are listed in Sonic Mania's manual among other people like Yuji Naka and Ohshima.

Arin Hanson, his wife Suzy Berhow, Barry Kramer, Matt, Ryan
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>>384972125
Don't make fun of Suzy. She's a beautiful young woman who knows a lot about video games and definitely doesn't hate Sonic
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>>384975061
married life.gif
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>>384974887
x-treme was a true passion project, one of the people moved in at STI to work on it non stop and got really sick and was forced to quit the project or he was going to die
apparently he still worked after the saturn version got canned with one other guy hoping sega PC division would release it
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>>384975141
God damn it. Our timeline just isn't Xtreme enough to handle it, I suppose.

Maybe in the next life.
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>>384974405

Sonic Chronicles has an abysmal soundtrack.
Sonic 3 PC has some weird MIDI tracks replacing a lot of the iconic songs.
Not fond of the generic techno in Riders.
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>>384975253
Christian senn (one of the guys working on xtreme and I think the guy who got really sick) for years had a website dedicated to xtreme, full of video clips animation tests and shit. but then he rebranded his site to sell family friendly board games and we lost it all
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>>384975452
>Dissing on Riders' music
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>>384975141
I think for a while he tried to revive Xtreme via a project, but it eventually fell through and didn't come to fruition.

It's such a shame that very little of the game remains. The finding of the game engine last year was something amazing - I'm a huge sucker for that kind of stuff, so seeing a game thought to be lost to time have almost all of it's engines found and be public is really neat.

It's a damn shame Xtreme never came to be. It might have changed the history of SEGA as a whole - the Saturn might not have flopped so hard, maybe the Dreamcast wouldn't have either, maybe SEGA would still be in the console market...it's interesting to think about.

Maybe someday we'll get to see that alternate reality.
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>>384975454
Some things are just not meant to be anon
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>>384975770
yeah he tried to revive xtreme like two different times with sonic retro. I remember when all we had was that nights engine test and thought that was the end. Then we got the fisheye viewer with all those maps we could look through but not play and finally like you said the point of view mid port build that was actually playable. Really bums me out thinking about what could have been
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>>384974587
It's like 3D Blast done somewhat right
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>>384975948
I really wonder how Xtreme would have been as a finished game. All we have to look at is footage and the few engines, but we have no real raw gameplay of it playing as it was designed to play. Just a few engine tests here and there.

It's a shame that these kind of things might be lost to time. There's footage of the Metal Sonic boss fight, but I highly doubt the build of this game will ever exist.

Cancelled games can always be mysterious but I don't think there's something as unsure-of-a-future as Xtreme. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't really delved into cancelled stuff recently so my mind may be foggy. But I can't think of a game that's so popular but has almost little info on it's actual gameplay. Even with the engines.
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Think lava reef make it in? it's my favourite zone
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Unlike Knuckles I don't Fuckle.
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>>384976515
I'D RATHER FLEX MY CHUCKLES
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>>384976515
I never realized how bad that waterfall looks
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>>384976195
>tfw the only thing we have from the boss engine is the metal sonic floor texture and blurry pictures
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Got tired. Will probably finish tomorrow

For some reason each cap produced a fucked up stripe at the bottom, but whatever.
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>>384977049
very good attempt

these guys know exactly what they're doing with level design, its sonic 3k mixed with CD.
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>tfw love the aesthetic, music, the designs of badniks, characters, bosses of CD
>can't enjoy playing it all the way through
Just
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>>384977684
>like Sonic CD to the point of playing it multiple times
>only ever get the Bad Ending
>I can't get the Good Ending because A) I suck at the special stages, and B) I cannot find those fucking Robot Machines
FUCKING
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>>384977684
Luckily Taxman and friends only took the good elements from CD to incorporate in Mania.

That said, maybe try Sonic CD++ some time. It's a ROM hack that adds in more movement options (among other things) that help with the more disjointed level design and exploration.
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>>384978206
Are you playing the Taxman port? The special stages are infinitely more playable in that version.
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I want a Sonic Mania dose right into my veins!
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>>384976445
How can people fucking like Lava Reef but diss Marble Zone in the same breath? God I hate both.
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>>384962220
How many scoops?
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>>384978425
On my phone it's hard because my thumb is fat as shit, so I can't get the Good Ending
I have to say that I've been making progress on getting the Time Stones, though, so there's that
My first ever experience with Sonic CD was on Sonic Gems Collection and I fucking hated it
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Why Cybershell shit on the old Sonic 3&K collection for PC?
I had a blast with it.
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>>384978526
Marble Zone is just bland. It only gets complaints because muh slow platforming in a fast game
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>>384978652
Because the music is shit to a lot of people. I don't get how anyone could stand that shitty Icecap music anyways.
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>>384978526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0N77nI_OI
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>>384978630
The Sonic CD port is on Steam too, so you could use that if you want.
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>>384977049
Cool dude, love this shit
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>>384978656
Marble Zone is kinda meh but it's nothing when it's in the same game as fucking Labyrinth Zone. Literally the most anti-fun zone in the entire series.
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>>384978630
The gems collection had bad emulation, I think that's where the game gets the bad rap from toobieh
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>>384978630
>phone

Yeah I can't deal with touch screen controls. Get that shit on Steam breh.

>>384978652
I thought it was okay besides the weird music, but it had a cool screensaver included in my copy of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FZWxW0CCU

It was very annoying after a while. The animations were neat though.
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>>384978652
Even if you like the new songs having to hear all the others in midi form makes it inferior. I don't hate all midi music or anything, but comparing midi versions of the songs to the Genesis versions and it's no contest. And like I said the only problem I have with the S&K Collection is the music. If you don't care about the music it's fine.
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You haven't forgotten me, have you?
It would be a shame if a certain somebarrel decided to show up in Sonic Mania...
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>>384974405
Sonic Chronicles has really awful music because they just downloaded a bunch of shitty free MIDI remixes from the internet. Not even kidding.

Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric doesn't have a bad soundtrack per say, but it's definitely really fucking dull for a Sonic game.

I'm also not a fan of how Mario-ish some of Lost World's tracks and music usage was. But I wouldn't outright call it a bad soundtrack, it still had some amazing songs.
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Who Lava Reef bros here? Hopefully it makes it in. hold me tight anons.
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>>384979162
The pc music guys did their best with what they had but nobody could compete with OG sonic 3 music.
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>>384979218
>put a sign next to barrel that shows d-pad with up and down arrows on it

Problem solved.
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>>384958927
Official Utopia when??? Now that Sega finally gave into high quality fan creations why not just give the franchise to the fans?
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>>384979218
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>>384979335
utopia isn't that great and it's not finished
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>>384979218
>tons of people actually got stumped with this barrel
was it the greatest troll of our time?
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>>384979218
don't you fucking dare. The reviewers at IGN can barely figure out how to run through a loop in GHZ. They can't be trusted to figure out THE BARREL. We don't need them saying the game is unbeatable or glitched
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>>384979335
How about we wait for Utopia to actually be completed first? It has great potential but until we get more content from it that's all it'll ever be to most people.
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>>384979493
>It's a shame that Sonic Mania has become the new Dark Souls.
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>>384979218
>They add the barrel
>Instead of pressing up & down like in Carnival Night you have to jump on it repeatedly instead like so many did back then
>Everyone gets stuck thinking it's the other way around
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>>384978832
I mean yeah the music helps me give a pass to zones I otherwise wouldn't much care for too. Like Metropolis. But I legit feel Lava Reef and Marble Zone are just about equal in terms of layout.
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>>384979548
was sonic always the dark souls of platformers?
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>>384959582
I thought the word was there was more new than remixed? Did that change?
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>>384979630
>Posting a webm of a kaizo rom hack
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>>384979630
>>
>No Chili Dogs
are they even trying?
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Cybershell, I got a video idea for you. "Best sonic romhacks" you can use that for free all you gotta do is credit me as the inventor of that idea
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>>384979630
How the heck are you supposed to know you need to jump on the badnik?!
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>>384979706
>loop

Woah man, you expect normal people to pass that extremely difficult obstacle?

How am I supposed to pass a loop?
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>>384980035
or a video on Sonic Robo blast 2.
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>>384980075
>twenty years later it turns out you could have rolled by pushing the down button
>turns out the game becomes significantly easier by rolling
Sega was fucking diabolical back then.
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>>384980075
I had to look up a video walkthrough to figure thatshit out, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??
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>>384980109
I think you press left when you hit the top of the loop, I'm not sure though, this game has some pretty shitty controls.
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>>384979630
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>>384974735
im trying to get into the rhythm. . . .and cant, hell its making me squirm every time i try to focus on it.
this song just butfuccks its own tempo every 2 seconds or so, ITS FUCKING DRIVING ME CRAZY. FUCK ITS AWFUL.
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>>384980202
this is retarded, newer Sonic games have those speed things that get you through loops much faster and easier

how could anyone enjoy this?
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>>384979571
perfect.
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>>384980958
[smug taxman]
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name a zone worse than Labyrinth
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Imagine if there was a Sonic X reference in Sonic Mania
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>>384981270
green hill
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>>384981270

Marble.

Labyrinth has excellent aesthetics and music.
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>>384981270
Sandopolis
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>>384981270
Sandopolis
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>>384981367
This
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>>384981393
This
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>>384981393
This
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>>384981270

Hidden Palace
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>>384981270
everything from CD besides Collision Chaos

also Sandopolis
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>>384981270
I was going to say Wacky Workbench but at least that had good music.
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>>384981393
>>384981367
>>384981506
Fuck you Sandopolis isn't even that bad
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>>384981713
t. ghost
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>>384981713
Fuck off ghost faggot, if it weren't for you I would have completed S3&K
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What's an obscure Sonic mechanic you wish would make a comeback?

I wish that you could curl into a ball midair after hitting a spring or something similar like in the Game Gear Sonic games.
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>>384974469
Don't care that grumps are there because they included my boy Johnny Ortiz.
>>384973439
>I want a game full of Casino nights.
It's called Sonic Spinball and it was mediocre
>>384981270
Sandopolis
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>>384982041
Holy shit, I've wanted the same exact thing since I've played all the classic games. Would make shit so much better. Although, not being able to curl up in a ball in those scenarios is probably intentional, so you're careful when using springs or running off ledges.

Semi-related, but after seeing Sonic Mania, I really want romhacks of the classic games with the Drop Dash added in. It would make them so much fucking fun.
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You have one minute to explain why Sandopolis deserves all this hate.
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>>384982225
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
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>>384981734
>>384981790
Do people really have troube with the ghosts or are they really just that spooky
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>>384982225
It's long and all the gimmicks are slow and boring
I don't hate it, it's just worse than every other level in the game.
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>>384982373
DELETE THIS SPOOKY SHIT
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>>384982225
Act 2
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>>384982365
ANAKIN! ANAKIN! DON'T JOIN EGGMAN
>>384982373
2SPOOK
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>>384982373
To be honest, I don't like it for 3 reasons
>Act 1 is pretty boring, the whole repelling thing isn't very fun and the rest is bland
>Mini Boss of act 1 fucking sucks.
>Act 2 has the whole "Infinitely falling unless you do something specific" thing I kinda dislike, And the platforming where you push a block onto a conveyer is not only slow, but not interesting.
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>>384982373
the real problem is all the stuff you have to be on top of, the lights, finding the sliders for doors, and making sure to gait to said doors on time, the real killer is that chaotic infina-slide, and a couple tight spots during the sand rising section.
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>>384982595
Fuck, I forgot about the miniboss. The most time-wasting shit in the entire fucking game.
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>>384982209
I think you could still have the mechanic without interfering with the difficulty. I think in Triple Trouble the mid-air spin attack was only temporary so you had to still think about what you were doing.

I'm sure someone at Retro or SSRG will eventually implement a Drop Dash into the old games.
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>>384982225
fuck ghosts
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Sonic Mania more like Sonic Gay-nia
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>>384983046
>Sonic will never give this girl the werehog D
Worst timeline.
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>>384983046
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>>384983046
I wouldn't mind fucking that ghost
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Dimension Heist more like Dimension Shite
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>>384983063
we work hard, we play hard
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>>384974469
>Egoraptor
at least Johnny and Jirard made it
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>>384959458


The Tom Eye Post is worse than the I want to Cum Inside Sucy Images
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Guys I think something's wrong with my copy of Sonic 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ9mBo0LbJw
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>>384958927
>the leak is fake
>remember to report leaks
Which one is it fucker?
Also, who gives a shit?
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>>384984050
nvm fixed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ20nV8SNNI
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>>384974469
How many shitty Sonic videos do I have to make before Aaron-senpai notices me.
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>>384970263
No because I'm not a furfag
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>>384974587
WOKE UP THIS MORNING IN A RAP SONG VIDEO
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>>384984305
sonic 3 tails run and bonus vid
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>>384984305
Just makes some shitting on the entire franchise. Make sure to say that Sonic was never good and that the game contradicts itself.
You'll get cupcakes the very next week.
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>>384984585
This

You know how long I've been subbed to you man? How many shitty tf2 vids I endured?
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>>384984305
you just need a couple where you screech about modern Sonic, not classic Sonic. It would probably help if you called the entire Sonic fanbase cancer a couple times. Maybe tell your viewers to dox some kid that wrote a Sonic Adventure walkthrough 17 years ago. Death threats work too. Aaron loves that shit
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>>384984305
Well, you did make an hour or so long video saying "Fuck you Sega" which Aaron is technically a part of. You may inadvertently have insulted the poor guy.

Just make a three hour long video saying "Notice me Meme Man-senpai" while playing Big's fishing sections and I think you might be able to summon him. No promises though.
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>>384970757
>Somecallmejohnny is there

The fuck did he do?
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>>384984907
Be a well known sonic autist
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>ywn be (You)'d on the Special Thanks booklet for Mania
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>>384976652
Probably looks better on a CRT and not HD resolution.
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>>384985219
ARIN DOESN'T EVEN LIKE SONIC GAMES! DAMN NETWORKING!
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>>384983046
>fuck ghosts
I wish I could.
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Imagine getting a Special Thanks in the actual Sonic Mania credits

Imagine your name being permanently etched into the game that saved Sonic
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>>384985591
>Imagine your name being permanently etched into the game that saved Sonic

I don't have to imagine it.
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>>384985591
Become aware of the fact that Game Grumps is going to be permanently etched into Sonic Mania's credits
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>>384986189
>Remain aware that you don't care and in the end it's just a name in a text scrawl
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>>384986189
why
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>>384986189
Someone suggested that it's the games way of thanking everybody. The people who were involved in the Sonic series (Naka), the fans (somecallmejohnny), even the people who don't like Sonic (Game Grumps). Only way it makes sense, tbqh.

>>384986279
Anon if no one cared, it wouldn't be discussed.
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>shit talk sonic constantly
>get in because Aaron's got a boner for you
Cyber got snubbed, that fight against 4fags was for nothing
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>>384986398
My name is no one and I don't.
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>>384986279
Realize the game will include funnie references XD to Game Grumps in both of the Sonic 3 levels.

>>384986398
>even the people who don't like Sonic (Game Grumps).
Not true. Suzy Berhow, Arin's wife, is listed. She's never said anything bad about Sonic, at least not publicly anyway. She is there because Arin requested she be there.

>>384986427
if it helps you feel better, most of us who were actually involved with Mania were not happy about them being there.
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>>384986821
>most of us
Storytime
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>>384981334
I wonder if they'll make any post-classic references.
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>>384986970
I can't give away too much since I worked with a very small "team" and I don't want to get in trouble, but there are actually a lot of people involved with the game. It's not just the developers + Aaron like a lot of people seem to think. We have testers, some people doing marketing, graphic design for said marketing, a couple guys doing legal stuff, etc.

I probably shouldn't have said most of us. It was more like everyone I worked with directly. Basically, everyone on my "team" who actually plays Sonic games and is also not completely unaware of the Internet outside of Facebook was not happy about the Game Grumps being there. We don't have any direct control over material like that so there was nothing we could do.

>>384987423
There's a nod to Sonic 3D Blast if you count that as post-classic. Technically it's Classic Sonic but it obviously doesn't fit in with 1-3&K.
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>>384960978
>>384962039
Depends if you're playing with Tails or not
Tails' AI is so retarded he always triggers the Asterons
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>>384987898
give a screenshot of an unrevealed zone or feature in mania if you are real
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>>384988085
This. Prove you're actually a part of the Mania team
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GET FUNKY
GET FUNKY
GET FUNKY
YO HUSTLE, HUSTLE
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>>384961458
I would prefer 3D sonic stopped existing
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>>384987898
i agree with
>>384988085
>>384988172

there is no way we are going to believe any leak without footage or visuals after what happened with the Sakura Synagogue leaker just winging everything and accidentally guessing it.

just give us something like hydrocity zone if it is in there, or something. anything. please
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>>384961270
At least he's an upgrade on Ken Balough
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>>384987898
Sounds believable, it's cool that so much love is put into the development and marketing of this game, all from Sonic fans too. There's really no game like it in that sense.
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>>384962070
>And when GT (I think) said Sonic hasn't had a good game in years, only for Aaron showed them rating Generations an 8 out of 10.
How are they incorrect?
Generations came out in 2011.

It wasn't good anyways but whatever
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>>384988450
Their point was that Sonic hasn't had a good game since the shift to 3D. And Generations was fun, fuck you
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Hurry up and get yours today!
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>>384959189
>Storyline

I wonder what the "story" is supposed to be. Is the idea that Eggman is searching the Islands for this new Power Source and that's why you go to old Zones? Does that mean that past Stardust Speedway is the true present one? (Not that it matters because it's always in some sort of flux).

Is there even any point of stating it's after Sonic 3 (Since it's obvious that it is due to Chuckles) despite the "new' notchaosemeralds unless it was somehow a continuation of the Death Egg Saga? Or are they just going to retcon it to the Eggrobos being prototype super soldiers?
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>>384988541
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>>384988541
>>384988620
Why he think overdetailling look good with Sonic artstyle?
Maybe even worse than Dreamcastxz1.
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>>384963174
Now THIS is shitposting
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>>384963637
Please kill yourself CDhater-kun
And if anything this special stage reminds me more of the ones from Chaotix
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>>384964763
Will you fuck off with this bait?
Sonic 4 was trash, stop mentioning it.
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>>384988714
ORANGE

GRADIENT

BACKGROUNDS
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>>384967104
>coins
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>>384989592
gotta bing bing wahoo fast
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>>384960273
pm'd u the gift code ;)
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I CAN'T WAIT ANY FUCKING LONGER
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I actually didn't like Dimension Heist much at first, but on repeated listens I'm starting to get into it much more.
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>>384966357
Marble Garden is the best zone in the series
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>>384990037
Maybe I'll get over it but the melody just isn't memorable like other special stages' music.
Then notes just kind of go all over the place.
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Around 1% of us won't live to play Sonic Mania. How does that make you feel?
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>>384966465
Thank you, that was disturbing me quite a bit
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someone tried to make a map of the Sonic timeline
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>All these fuckers in Youtube comments and such saying they want Mania and Forces to connect
Fuck this shit. It's annoying every time I see it. This "energy source" there seeing is obviously the elevator from the trailer.
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>>384984907
He's done loads of Sonic reviews, charity streams involving Sonic ROM hacks and fangames, and is a huge Sonic fan.
My guess is that Taxman/Whitehead knows him from the hacking contest stuff and whatnot.
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look up Takashi Iizuka games

Nights into Dreams (1996) — Lead Game Designer

It's happening, a dreams reference must be fucking made.
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>>384967410
>>384968575
They're easy as fuck
Getting perfects on them on the other hand...fuck that shit
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>>384990329
I keep thinking something drastic is gonna happen to my life before the game comes out, like the universe might one day say I'm never going to play it.
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>>384969216
>the same music repeating is a bit grating
Play Sonic 3 complete
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>>384990461
It wouldn't bug me at all if that happened, but it likely won't. The Sonic in Mania & the "Classic" Sonic in Forces are two different Sonics.
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>>384970560
I hope not, I can't stand those fags.
Bring back Keiko Utoku
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>>384989513
BUS SIZED PENISES
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P
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>>384990329
>1% of 93 posters

So the other 7% of that one poster will be alright?
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>>384989513
>>384990797
And two internal shot panels
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Reminder that Shun Nakamura is producing Forces. He was also the Director, Chief Game Designer, and writer for Sonic '06
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>>384970773
>yfw Takenobu Mitsuyoshi sings the opening song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruBmWuSoFAE
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>>384990931
And the kids and memers will still eat it up.
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>>384990931
Iizuka's still gotta okay this shit right? We can still blame him, right?

I'm doing it anyway.
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>>384972574
There's 3rd party Saturn USB controllers out there
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>>384990931
This is why a lot of people are excited for Forces. They're expecting another trainwreck to make wacky youtube videos about it and all the funny edge memes.
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>>384990980
Fucking yes please. Peak J-90s.
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>>384990929
>dreamcastzx1
>orange backgrounds
>giant impractical dicks
>xray/internal shots in every image
>always sonic giving it behind some girl figuratively drooling over him
>muscular sonic
>implied tails cuckold every other image
>patreon paywalling

One thing I never figured out is he says he "collabs" and "gets commissions" to do pieces that are exactly the same position, same tropes, same characters, every fucking time, yet even in his collabs, it's the same exact style as his own work. I think he's just bullshitting to play it off as people actually liking his shitty color jobs.
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>>384974295
>tfw this was composed by Chris Senn who wasn't really a musician
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>>384990461
>connect

This worries me but at the same time the plot of Forces seems to convuluted for it to tie into Mania's Hard Boiled Heavy Plot since it's basically Generations 2 electric boogaloo.

It's just the power source that worries me.
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>>384991093
really not as good.
Tho, you can swap the inside with a real saturn controller.
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>>384991213
you forgot
>one pic EVERY SINGLE DAY
>All of that because of this
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>>384990929
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>>384990931
And yet 06 was also a dumpster fire in its production. It's still too early to judge, but I've not seen anything that tells me Forces is another 06.
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>>384991218
The stories could've connected if Mania and Forces both started dev at the same time, but there's years between project starts. It would be convoluted and messy if they decided to out of the blue combine the stories together.
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>>384991213
>ywn be autistic enough to get annoyed at all the Tails-centric porn out there and decide to make a shit ton of Tails getting cucked porn in "protest"

wew, dodged a bullet there
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>>384984305
The madman is here
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>>384960897
I don't think that it's that bad. Why would the journalist need to know that sonic goes left in the upper part of the loop by pressing right? Only by experience.

But then, are we implying that gaming journalists should what they are talking about?
What are we, gamerjaters?
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>>384991086
yeah, he's head of Sonic Team. It's just this game isn't really his doing, he's just approving things.
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>>384991358
>literally starts in a dystopian future with the city on fire
>not 06
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>>384978526
They're both great you piece of shit
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>>384991390
>ywn self identify as sonic and hate tails so much that you self identify as sonic and give him a giant penis to both compensate for your own tiny dick and attempt to cuck tails with characters he visibly has no interest in

wew
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>>384991531
Anon, there's a lot more that goes into what made 06 shit than "city on fire." And Forces doesn't even start in the future.
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>>384991491
I still wouldn't put it past him to be butting in and micro managing development.

That said, is Nakamura going to be his successor? If so, I'm not sure I like the implications of that.
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You now realise that Taxman has done his job, and made the game, but it isn't enough. You now realise the entire Mania game rests in the hands of one ganjin to build hype, not Tee, not Tax.

Tyson Hesse

You best hope that animation that drops on the 14th is so god tier that it breaks the internet, because for whatever reason, this game is not being advertised, so that shit needs to be ascended godtier. Sega have fully embraced cringe and WOAH IRONIC WACKINESS XD and it is actually fucking working, now we need a genuine good cut scene, from the heart. Hesse, you have the fucking floor. Save Sega from this game bombing, break the internet, save the cheerleader, save the world.

SEGA: Shall we just release a digital game with no physical, and NOT advertise it? AT ALL?

DRONT GRO TROO FARR MANIIIA TREAMM, I DRON'T WANT YOUR GRAME OUTRELLING MRINE!!!!!!!
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>>384979162
Hey Cybershell I wonder if you've heard of this before
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_-_Remix

Also have you seen some of the recent Sonic 2 proto concept art Yasuhar posted on twitter which details how Sonic 2 was gonna be a time travel game and just a way bigger game in general than it end up being
https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=36719
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>>384979315
LOL the replacement tracks were lazy as shit. They sounded like discarded 3D Blast tracks
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>>384991639
>is Nakamura going to be his successor
it's definitely possible, he's been with them for a while and has experience.
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>>384991793
if it's anything like the pre-order trailer it will be perfect desu
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>>384979630
Only for Nint0ddlers
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>>384991639
Who knows? Hell, we have no reason to think Iizuka is stepping down soon.
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>>384974405
I'm torn between S4:E1 and Chronicles.
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>>384991793
Something even more animated then the Pre-Order trailer will drum up plenty hype.
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>>384991575
So basically he's the Boco of Tails then, kek.

That's great though. At least Boco just shitposts whenever Amy is brought up, but dreamcastzx1 has a 'tism attack and draws shitty cuck porn. This is next level shit.

I wonder if he lurks 4chan too. Wouldn't be surprised.
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>>384992015
I only bring it up because I've heard rumblings of Iizuka retiring around the time Forces was announced. Surely, it's getting about that time, right?

He can't keep getting away with it forever, right? Right?
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>>384974584
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>>384991793
Probably just an extended version of the trailer animation. It's not like the Elevator of History is out of place considering there's a oft chance that it has a hub like Knuckles Chaotix selector thingy.
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>>384991824
I had not heard of The The Hedgehog - Remix before, that's pretty interesting. And yeah I did see that new Sonic 2 proto art, I waited nine fucking years to do my Sonic 2 Bonus Video and then ten days after I finish it all this awesome new information comes out that I would have loved to put in the video. Fantastic.
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>>384970757
>Jake Ganz
>Studio Yotta

I guess the leaked bit of animation is real then.

I'm so jealous of Yotta they existed at the right time with the right people and worked the right jobs all the way up to this.
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>>384974584
poor Diamond Dust Zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08
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>>384992483
While we're on the subject of development history, have you seen pic related before?

Any chance of a SA1 development video? I think it's got a really interesting history and it ties in nicely to Classic Sonic.
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>>384992607
huh is that what it's supposed to be? I couldn't even fucking tell
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>>384992509
>Yotta

Mania is literally a fan-game/animation/eceleb circlejerk at this point. Is Docfuture going to voice Robotnik next?

Not that I'm complaining.
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>>384992647
I hadn't seen that pic either. A video on the development history of SA1 would be pretty interesting, I'd have to do some research on it first though. I have a video planned to examine some obscure shit related to SA1 like translation differences and DLC.
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>>384992830
If you want material for obscure Adventure related shit, maybe give this guy(?) a look if you haven't already: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNtT2Z7SWNtroW6RWB9NVww

But yeah, SA1's development is both fascinating and sad for me. Like the fact that there's evidence in the beta stages that suggests that Sonic Team tried to do a more faithful translation of 2D's physics to 3D but just gave up in favor of more action-oriented and scripted set pieces for stages just kills me.
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>>384991531
Sonic 3 had Angel island on fire what's your point?
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>>384991390
ntrfags at their finest
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>>384991824
>New little bit of information for old games still popping up
This make's me really happy for some reason I can't explain it. Maybe it's the mystery behind game development? And no matter how big or small there's still some stuff we don't know about any of the game's we've played.
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>>384992483
Time to make a Bonus Video for the Sonic 2 Bonus Video
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and knuckles
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>>384970757
>SomecallmeJohhny
WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>384991575
>>ywn self identify as sonic and hate tails so much that you self identify as sonic
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>>384993374
not anon but Island/Forest fire =/= City Wreckage
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>>384979162
Make a Sonic Robo Blast 2 video plox
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>>384992805
>Is Docfuture going to voice Robotnik next?

We should be so lucky. For the uninitiated newfriends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ef8SD9gUg

sorry for potato quality, the video is ancient
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>>384992647
>Lost World's background
>Windy Valley or whatever it was called
>Angel Island

Seems like they still had the basic idea behind Adventure. They just tweaked the Sonic design to look less creepy Sonic Schoolhouse.
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Anyone else have extreme trouble seeing classic Sonic and modern Sonic as the same character? I actually see modern Sonic as a completely different guy that took up that mantle and it's just gone unspoken, because they look and act nothing alike.
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>>384991213
>One thing I never figured out is he says he "collabs" and "gets commissions" to do pieces that are exactly the same position, same tropes, same characters, every fucking time, yet even in his collabs, it's the same exact style as his own work. I think he's just bullshitting to play it off as people actually liking his shitty color jobs.
and yet
>https://e621.net/post/show/1280578/anthro-big_breasts-big_penis-breasts-bullying-cani
>again in every pic it's a different backstory, the key is context for every individual drawing, not every drawing connects with each other or share the same continuity, in this one tails is clueless about what's going on and is just calling sonic for groceries
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>>384993598
good
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>>384993686
This video is *by far* the best thing to come out of my stupid LP thread.
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We're all in agreement that Knux, Metal Sonic, Blaze, and Eggman are the best Sonic characters, right?
>>
Modding will never cease to crack me up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izoB9t7q9p0
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>>384993903
Replace Metal Sonic with Shadow and you've got quite the list.
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>>384993778
That's what Sonic Forces has done to him. He's now just a alternate universe version of Sonic.
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>>384993875
I also liked his Sonic 2 Special Edition LP.

It's funny, for a long time I always thought that the whole "Sega CD 32X" bit was just something he made up for the LP, but it turns out it's actually a real thing for several "games":

http://segaretro.org/Sega_Mega-CD_32X

Fucking Sega.
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>>384993778
Not really, no. To me, the only difference between both Sonics is that one talks, tbqh.
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>>384973059
Well I have good news for you my man because Mean Bean Machine is the Chemical Plant boss.
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>>384994209
SO I TOLD TAXMAN TO SAVE THE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG BRAND

HE ACTUALLY DID IT, THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN
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>>384994018
I think that's really fucking lazy and makes Modern Sonic somehow retroactively a worse Sonic. Now I can't even be invested in him as a grown up version of S1-3K Sonic.

That also makes no sense lore-wise considering Sonic 1-3&K are connected to SA1 and 2.
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>>384981270
Wacky Workbench.
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>>384990439
I think the storybook games take part DURING unleashed. Here's my take on it
>sonic reads about many cultures and its tales
>is seen sleeping in actual human-built or at least human-built-looking houses, probably to rest between the world travelling
>world's going to shit with the earth itself going haywire, probably causing disturbances in other nearby parallel worlds
>sonic oh-so-conveniently happens to stumble upon these world, or at least dreams about the events of both
It kinda fits if you ask me, but that's just my autism speaking
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>>384994257
Calm your tits. Modern Sonic is still an older version of Classic Sonic. It's just that the small blue Sonic from Forces is from another dimension, but he's not the same Sonic from 1-3&K
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>>384994362
My bad, misinterpreted it then. Then what fucking game is that small blue Sonic from then? As in, what games did happen in that dimension?
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>>384994449
It's cool. It's dumb of them to give him the same design, so I can see how that mistake is made.

>what games did happen in that dimension?
The Game Gear games.
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>>384990439
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>>384994524
I don't understand why they would make him come from another dimension, he
still Classic Sonic, he still acts the same and has basically the same memories?

Is this so they can kill him without also killing Modern Sonic or something? They wouldn't, right?
>>
>>384990439
How can 06 and Rush be canon at the same time?
>>
>>384994604
>They wouldn't, right?
Infinite/Eggman's gonna kill small Sonic & you're gonna like it.
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>>384994678
>Small Sonic
Is that what we're gonna have to start calling him?
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>>384994526
Aaron says everything's canon. That's what I choose to believe.
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>>384994754
Most likely yeah, although we probably won't see him after Forces. Hopefully, because Classic/Small Sonic in 3D games is pointless.
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>>384994858
Vector looks like he bit straight into a lemon.
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>>384994858
Sonic the Hedgehog was never meant to be turned into a 3d model, dear fucking christ he looks horrifying there.
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>>384994858
what did he mean by this?
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>>384994960
Sonic and Mario look ugly in 3d imo
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So we know the special stage, but we don't know the bonus stage, the sparkles on the checkpoint

You jump in and hear this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY9m2sHQwLs
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>>384994604
It's the 2006 director.

We'll be lucky if it doesn't retcon itself out of existence again.
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>>384994960
I disagree, honestly. I've seen many great renders of 3D Sonic & Sonic looks fine in that imagee.
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>>384994858

>Enjoy your future. It's going to be great !
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>>384995000
highly detailed models don't suit it, low poly models are alright though
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>>384994858
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>>384981270
sandopolis
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>>384995094
Ehhh, low poly works for Classic, but I'm not sure about Modern.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyxFrQT5M2k

Daily reminder that that the guy who made this is making Forces, now go watch the Forces cutscene, it'll really active your almonds.
>>
>>384995184
Shun likes seeing hedgehogs get their asses kicked?
>>
I have a new thread set up just ready to click post since this one will archive soon in 10 posts when we reach 500 posts. should i just post it now?
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>>384995184
that's a fucking awful cutscene holy shit
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>>384994858
Vector does not like seeing Sonic lying to his young self like that
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>>384995308
yes
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>>384995308
No, don't be like FFXIV fags.
Just wait a while after it 404's, this is how threads get deleted.
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>>384995308
Wait till this thread actually hits 500 and stops bumping.
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>>384994960
I love how expressive the characters are under Hesse's style. The opening is gonna be great.
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>>384994526
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>>384995362
ill wait until we reach 500 posts. it will take too long to 404
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>>384995412

>Hydrocity in South Island

Nope. Even more now that they explicitly name-dropped Angel Island in the manual.
>>
>For the Mania, By the Mania

lizuka really thinks this is just a silly low key fan project to tide people over for Forces, doesn't he? The poor fool.
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>>384995412
someone add another tier thats even more hardcore than believing hydrocity is the hole that says: "believing Sakura Synagogue is a real zone"
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>>384994858

This is a correct quote. Classic Sonic's future looks great. Modern meanwhile...
>>
>/v/ Sonic threads & /sthg/ are both comfy as fuck right now
This is a good feeling

>>384995487
What in that tagline indicates that?
>>
>>384995515

new thread
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>>384995542
Hey, Modern is gonna be the best part of Forces. He has that to look forward too.
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>>384974405
Chronicles easily
Iirc they had proper music composed for it then lost it all right before release and had to scramble to come up with something
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thoughts on sonic 2 long version? it features a remade wood zone, dust hill, genocide city, and hidden palace and death egg zone. all of them have original level designs except for death egg which is just chemical plant but in space. act 3 is the final boss
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>>384974934
I don't see Matt on there
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>>384994960
I dunno man he looks pretty good in Fighters. Everyone does, actually. I fucking love low-poly.
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>>384974405
Chronicles, how is that even a question?
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>>384995487
It's a game by people that love classic Sonic, for the people that love classic Sonic. It's a passion project by fans for fans through and through. Where the hell are you getting what you're saying from?
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>>384981270
>implying Labyrinth is back

>>384981529
Holy shit what is wrong with you? Just kill yourself.
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>>384987898
It doesn't matter. We'll just mode those faggots out of the credits when the game comes out.
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>>384988541
Somebody kill this guy please. This is a crime against paper.
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>>384990439
>Sonic 4
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