>Buy pic related from store >Walk to store girl behind

I honestly never heard of this FF before, or XI for that matter. Something must have gone wrong in marketing between X and XIII.

>>383568976
The point is apparently this game was meant to be popular, /v/ seemed pretty excited for it but when I went to get it (late in the afternoon) I was the only one that bought it on release day

It has an extremely vocal fanbase consisting of very few people.

>>383569098
Dedicated fans. On /v/ all day, every day. Almost as if it's their job.

Honestly, the masses don't deserve this game.

it's just the same game. it actually looks worse with the dof and ambient occlusion effects. its still 30fps.

why would you buy it when you can just play it on emulator? shitty release.

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>>383568884
You can't fucking trick me XIIfags. I played the demo that came with DQ8, the game is hot garbage.

>>383569508
it's an acquired taste but boy, when you acquire it, it's a fucking great ride.

would have bought it if i
had a ps4 and had money

>>383569508

I thought that pic was everyone watching Jessica give a handjob

>>383569048
that's what you get for being an aussie. No one buys shit, they all shitpost and pirate

>>383568884
I got the international version on PS2. No reason to rebuy the game.

>>383568884
Weeb games are niche and FFXII is a weeb game

Most people stare at me like I'm a freak when I say I like Final Fantasy. This is the UK, chav central.

>>383570150
Australia is Sony land like Europe

>>383568884
Waiting for PC version.

>>383569043
Is this bait? XI is one of the most popular MMOs of all time.

>>383568976
The point is OP thinks an anecdotal story that he could easily have made up is proof that the game is going to flop

>>383570280
yeha but australia's games cost 500 bucks, so the non aboriginal people who actually would buy games (12 dudes) probably won't have much of an impact on global sales so it's all k

>>383568884
I'm only one person but whenever I want to buy games I just get them off Amazon, the savings from Prime over the course of a year make it worth it. Amazon even gives you release day arrival if you order soon enough. I just ordered it an hour ago actually.

>>383569098
Fucking this. It's so annoying trying to talk about the game how it is with them around.

>>383570045
This. I was already pulling out my dick.

>>383568884
People are just waiting for the steam release.

>>383568884
that bitch is full of shit and deserve to get shot

This game has the worst main character of the whole saga

>>383568884
mine will be delivered today in approximately 12 hours.

>>383570341
That's not XIV

>>383570341
>was

>>383568884

>$49.99

LOL FUCKING NOPE

>>383568976
>6
But 7 8 9

>>383570341
XI sold like shit

Maybe I didn't buy it because it's on fucking PS4 and not computer

someone gimme some good job combos, i've never played the zodiac shit before, it was never released in UK, someone made an awesome list the other day and i forgot to save

>physical media

Bought it on PSN

Why the fuck would anyone want a bunch of boxes taking up space for no reason?

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>>383573204

Nigga what? Fifty bucks? Fuck outta hea.

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>>383573427

>>383573427
As I recall the most broken combo is
Vaan = Monk
Penelo = Red Mage or White Mage
Basch = Archer
Ashe = Samurai
Fran = whatever you didn't make Penelo
Balthier = Dragoon, Uhlan, whatever the spear class is called

Women make the best mages, men the best warriors; samurai scales with magic and ashe is the strongest of them all; effect capacity makes black mage worthless so you want red/white mages as your only casters; archer is the most broken job in the game because it has access to the Nihopalaoa accessory and all the remedy lores; and you need to make Fran and Balthier not ranged classes because their flashy ranged animations lower their DPS considerably.

>>383568884
Mine just turned up in the post, didn't expect it to sell well i'm just glad to have it as always thought it was one of the more underrated games

>>383573647
But what about second job choices? Seeing as everyone gets a second one now

>>383573429
so i can sell the game when it's free on ps plus like i did with tearaway unfolded and killing floor 2

>>383568884
I cant find this game on windows store wtf

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>day metal gear solid legacy edition comes out
>go to best buy because the website has it in stock
>it's not on the shelf at all
>ask employee about it
>has no clue what i'm talking about
>looks it up
>he has to go to the back room, search for a while then climb a ladder to get it from top stock

>>383574646
A lot of people don't even know about it, they either assume it's 12 so it's badbecause they had really bad experience with it or they know about the international version and don't hink this one is that much different so they dodn't bother looking at all the changes

>>383568884
>Wannabe FF MMO
>But without the MMO
>And without hands-on gameplay
>All that's left is grinding and autobattle

>>383574930
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, i'll have to rely on the super autists over at gamefaqs. As I assume they will have already figured out the best combos

>>383575108
Yeah they have tons of threads about job combinations and some really precise calculations for certain combinations against super bosses etc

>>383575191
Thank god, don't want to fuck myself over by choosing shitty combinations. Although with it apparently being easier not sure if that'll be possible

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>30 fps
even the apologist digital foundry fag called them out on this.

>>383575348
Not that i'm defending it but can't upping the fps on engines built around it running at 30 fuck with the game?

>>383575276
The difficulty has been rebalanced so it's generally easier which actually is cool because a lot of seemingly bad jobs and combos are actually viable, it also makes challenge runs interesting too. So you can either go blind or have a guide to give you some ideas etc, the outcome is the same, you're going to be able to 100% the game

>>383575432
sure can, thing is its not the customers problem.
it can be done hell they did it for kingdom hearts (it broke some shit but they patched it).
no excuse, just lazy devs.

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>>383575546
>sure can, thing is its not the customers problem.
>a broken physics engine is not the customer's problem

>>383575648
its not the customers problem to make it work you fucking retard

Just got to vaan's start and thank god they toned down the fake abs they were so fucking distracting in the original

>>383569048

>bought a shitty port by virtuos on release day

i'll wait to pirate it when it comes out on PC

>>383576381
Well meanwhile people are playing it, not you ..." b-b-ut muh PC ... m-muh 68k 2billion fps *snort* those shit games ... weeb trash ...... but please gib me pc port pls"

>>383568884
I loved Final Fantasy XV and Type 0
Is this worth picking up over falcon games (Cold Steel 2 and Tokyo Xanadu)

>>383576605
Falcom*

I only played the NES FFs, and Crystal on GC
What others should I play?

>>383570392
You can actually buy games for cheaper here than you would in america, taking into account currency differences of course.

>>383576605
>I loved Final Fantasy XV and Type 0

I'm so sorry anon

Post your jobs, rate others, /v/.

>Vaan-Shikari/Foebreaker
>Balthier-Machinist/Whitemage
>Fran-Archer/Blackmage
>Ashe-Knight/Bushi
>Bache-Uhlan/Timemage
>Penelo-Redmage/Monk

>>383569043

> FF XV is already out
> for some reason a retard on /v/ didn't know there was a FF XI or XII

>>383573035
but XIV failed and they have to rebuild it all, losing all their fanbase.

>>383568884
>Not taking her behind the store and giving her a proper dicking to alleviate her disappointment.
>m-me too
Why do you make yourself so beta in your own story?

>>383577141
I played Xenoblade Chronicles automated combat looks the same

>>383577248
Lots of the same stuff
>Vaan-Shikari/Foebreaker
>Balthier-Machinist/Whitemage
>Fran Blackmage/Redmage
>Basch Knight/Bushi
>Ashe Bushi/Shikari
>Penelo Whitemage/Timemage

>>383568884
Ashe's design is the only good thing about this shit.

So anyone else playing this? Just picked it up and went through the prologue, I'm currently considering restarting. I just made vaan a samurai but then I realized I don't want to use him in the end game anyways, my party is gonna be ashe, penelo and basch. I fucking knew choosing which job to give to whom would be the hardest part of playing this game

>>383578138
You can rechoose the same jobs for other people just means you won't be able to choose them all. I plan on splitting the 12 between them all and using them all but it's your choice

>>383578415
Oh sweet I wasn't aware of this

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>>383568884
>bought FF12 on release day
>Halloween 2006
>played it for 6 hours
>never touched it again

>>383568884
People are excited for new games not decade old ones from a company that lost the plot 10 years ago and cant produce a jrpg to save their lives.
This is emberassing, not a game imo its a fucking joke it really is. "hey its 2017 here have a old as fuck jrpg you already played a decade ago and which wasnt even special or good anyway but we cant even make new producst that compete with that so.. yeah".. "also dont expect prerendered Final fantasys to get a genuen facelift because that would require work.. i mean even for the only game we do it we split it up in three games lol fuck you give us money for old shit you idiots"

>>383578531
Only other thing is if you don't take all the jobs I think you loose access to some espers or some shit but I don't know it in full detail

>>383569098
Because its actually not a good game, literally offline mmorpg grind the game with shit art direction boring flat desert, greenery and lego block cities environments unimaginative monsters (wow skeletons are the hardest non boss enemies really?wow)
The one thing it has going for it is some of the writing and voice acting probably the best out of any FF.

>>383578880
Playing this game for the first time, what exactly is going on with the voice acting? This decade old game has some of the best voice acting I have ever heard in video games. What happened since it's release to now? Instead of evolution there was devolution

>>383570045
Same

>>383578994
Just be glad the fixed the sound quality in the remaster and compared to HAHAHAHAHAHA it's in another league to be sure

>>383578415
>only 6 playable characters
>12 jobs

Your maths is fucking garbage

>Vaan-Shikari
>Balthier-Machinist
>Fran-Archer
>Penelo-White mage?
>Ashe-?
>Basch-?
Which class do you think make sense for the characters?

>>383579090
You know you really should research before shitposting. They made everyone be able to take a second job later in the story so you can actually take all 12 if you don't take a duplicate for anyone

>>383579094
dont make fran archer or balthier machinist
they have special animations for those weapons that actually take longer

>Buy game
>Get too intimidated by picking the classes to continue

Help me

>>383579185
That's not what I asked

>>383579185
But animation speed doesn't matter and is just a meme.

>>383579218
For starters making vaan a shikari is suitable. They get access to some decent weapons and the dagger style fits him imo

>>383579232
I would make ashe a black mage. Just what I like her as. secondary job would be monk, if you want her to be a bit beefy.

Basch...maybe a foe breaker? or a knight?

If a knight, I highly reccomend making his secondary job a samurai. They pair together exceptionally. If a foebreaker, you could make his secondary a foebreaker or a bushi so you could get some genji gloves. Poles have pretty great combo rates and genji gloves nearly double that. bushi is a better pairing for monk, but foebreaker does bring in those oh so important breaks.

>>383578994
>>383578880
Does this version have Japanese audio?

>>383579443
Fuck me, im dumb.

I need to go to bed.

I meant to say make basch knight or a monk.

Monk pairs well with bushi or foe breaker, but more so samurai, though breaks are really important end game for some bosses.

>>383579546
Yeah and if don't like the music changes you can switch those back to the original as well

>>383579546
Yes.

But why? I am an ultra weeb and always choose JP, but honestly FF12 is the only exception, the eng dub is amazing.

>>383579185
Why would you care about animation speed in a single player game, and one that can even go up to x4 speed.

>>383579168
So they dumbed it down for the snowflakes
GG squeenix

>people waiting till the last moment to buy the game
>not preordering earlier for $38

Snooze you lose I guess

>>383572813
Tidus is in this game as well?

>>383572813
Hardly the worst, he is just unimportant. If you view balthier as the MC which you should it has a pretty decent one

>>383579602
That's pretty cool.

>>383579615
Because more options are good.

Planning to pick it up eventually. Between being broke from bills and Square's questionable track record with some pretty nasty bugs with these ports, I am waiting to see how it turns out.

I already beat the original years ago, so I am not in a huge rush to pick it up again.

>>383580157
fuck you i liked Tidus

I forgot how much I loved old dalan's voice, wish he was shown off more often

>>383568884
>buying games from a store
Why do this?

>>383580303
HAHaHaHa

>>383580303
Because you can relate to his autism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euzcBRLyDR4

>>383579239
>>383579817
It does matter but it takes like 15 attacks for Balthier and Fran to fall behind and it adds up over time. If you absolutely have to have the best DPS it matters.

>>383570341
Not even close. It was complete unknown, the only claim to relevance it had was being one of the first (and the only successful of the early wave)) console MMO. Even then it had pretty bad problems that kind of killed interest in the game from normal people, mainly the fact it had so much partying that was a requirement, and the lack of english players, which lead to a sort of self-fulfilling-prophecy kind of fucked-up-edness. Then the rapid rate of release for expansions all at a full price of their own killed a lot of interest from the western market too. Playonline on PC was an absolute DISASTER and turned away the last few people who were interested. It was just a perfect storm of shit. I can't imagine how far along the game would be right now if playonline was never a thing. If they found some alternative account system to utilize.

>>383577248
Its like you were trying to use the "optimal" build from the early days of discussion and you botched Fran/Penelo's combos.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

What should I make vaan? Fuck choosing classes, that "THIS ACTION IS IRREVERSIBLE" disclaimer before doing so doesn't help either

>>383581885
He's good at literally everything.

>>383581848
Makes sense as 12 is better than 15

>>383570341
As someone who loves it, you are insane. It was terribly unpopular and even at its peak was only decently populated.

Fuuuuck what do I make Vaan? Never played the International version so this is proper alien to me

>>383581848

Makes sense.

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>>383568884
it still has Penelo and Vaan in it

>>383579974

>having to combine jobs together, giving you huge amounts of options and combinations, opportunity to maximise benefits of classes with eachother, instead of one job = one character
>dumbing down

retard

>>383581185
It managed to have 500k active (paid) subscriptions for its first few years and had around 200-300k up until a few years before FFXIV came out. It's one of the most successful subscription MMOs that's not WoW, because it never had to go free to play like many "WoW-killers".

>>383572813
Vaan isn't supposed to be the important character hes just another character that holds a grudge against Archadia. He's kinda just there as part of the tutorial and acts as a witness to the rest of the parties story.

>>383582291
Job System made FFXII even easier than it already was.
Giving the player two jobs will make the game even more brainless, since it topples the one faulty element of balance to make up for job's OPness.

>>383578880
Can't even say the writing is good either. It's extremely pretentious half the time. Some of the shit they say is so absurdly snide and stuck up that it sounds even more fake than some of the wall slamming dramatic nonsense of FF13. Doesn't help either that for over half the game, you're a non factor to anything relating to plot that goes on.

>>383572813
FF1
FF3
FF5
FF10

>>383581848
For what its worth i feel like this is true to a certain extend.

>>383581318
what were those?

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>>383573440
>fifty bucks for an "HD" port that makes the game easier
>cuntsole exclusive
>what is PCSX2
lol

>>383583460
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75477310

>>383570045

This desu

Fucking hell I should have left the flowering cactoid till later just killed it at level 4 with a shikari and white mage and that little twat parries like hell. Had to blow throw most of my potions just to kill the thing

>>383582414
I mean, I kind of agr-
>FF5
TITUS, GET THE CROSS

I guess I didn't pay attention to all the new shit as I just got the blind spell from a pot and as far as I remember you didn't get spells from random treasures

What the fuck. I wanted to farm those Wolfman dudes in the giza plains for the early wind dagger and they one-shot my lvl 3 vaan

>>383583678
Fuck off pc fags you"re the one emulating those so called console games you despise so much

>>383584728
If an enemy's name is red when you're targeting them, they're at a way higher level than you.

>>383583695
White/Machinist is a bit overrated but otherwise, he has some good combos there. No mention of Hunter/Red Mage and Uhlan/Machinist either.

>>383584792
Enjoy your Sky Pirate's Den, consoletard.
Oh wait

>>383584843
Oh i will enjoy it while you beg for a muhstard race port

>>383584487
A lot of really good stuff is found in chests now, and they are all guaranteed if the chest spawns.

some spells are found in chests now

>>383581848
Makes sense x3

>>383584973
Interesting i'll have to pay more attention as I think I ignored them for the most part in the original due to mostly getting knuts of rust or potions

Why would anyone buy it, XII was garbage.
>Side quests are mmo tier
>Game plays itself via gambits except on some boss battles (and turning them off is not an improvement because of how the game is designed around them)
>Story is boring as shit
>2 characters are tacked on for sales reasons
>License board is boring as shit as a skill gaining system
>The music is not even composed by Uematsu

>>383583678
>>383585067
This is the reason why it's impossible to have threads discussing about a game, beggars and shitposters

>>383585181
Ignore them long enough and they'll get bored

>>383585067
Even you have a game that you love that most people think is shit.

>>383568884
waiting for the steam release

I was thinking about getting it but I'm not too sure

Does anyone have a high resolution picture of fran's ass?

I heard it got upgraded, but i need some proof.

>>383585181
>Post valid criticism about the game
>Ah yes, the shitposters, impossible to discuss anything
Bravo.

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What's the gameplay like XII?

is it anything like in Xenoblade Chronicles? because I hated the combat in that game

>>383585439
no

>>383585390
All the so called "criticism" has been demolished times and times already, mostly the "plays itself" thingbecause to set up gabits correctly you need them and you need the abilities and license for everything so no the game doesn't play itself unless you purposedly force him to do so
Story boring as shit ..... it probably flew over your head
License board boring as shit, yeah it'sbetter to have all characters being all copy paste of each other right ?
Music .. Uematsu .... now that's just shitposting go eat a dick

>>383584943
It doesn't exist anymore.
Enjoy your trophies.
Why would I need a PC port when the game is demonstrably easier with two jobs per character and trial mode items carrying over? FF12 is easy enough as it is. Silly consolepleb.

>>383585696
Continue begging please

>>383585736
>literally ignoring reality
Continue being a libtard

>>383585813
Yes just like that beg more

>>383569043
Strange isn't it?

Final Fantasy is an odd series that goes:
1
2
3
(Mystery gap)
7 - Biggest JRPG of all time
8
9
10
???
13
?
15

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>>383585624
How did you demolish the fact the sky pirates den is removed, the font is horrible, the comfy save menu has been cut, the game is objectively significantly easier even ignoring the trial mode bug, the new graphics are blurry at best, and the game doesn't even look good on PS4 pro?

This remaster is garbage.

>>383585831
(You)

>>383585624
>This criticism is invalid because <ad hominems, evasion of the topic, and factually wrong information>
Nice.
>Can't even write properly
>Doesn't like Uematsu.
Ah, as expected of XIIfags.

>>383585861
Sky pirates den was just achievements. Trophies serve that purpose now.

>>383585861
>comfy save menu
Why is this board so god damn autistic?

>>383576919
It's almost like you don't actually live in Australia

>>383572813
That's what I thought at first, bit if you actually play it, you'll see that Vaan isn't the main character.

>>383585986
but now we dont have all those cute little sprites

there is really no reason why they didnt have both

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First time playing this game. I really think /v/ is clinically retarded. Years I've read complains about this game's battlesystem and how it is "not true" to final fantasy when after playing for 30mins it is IMMEDIATELY clear there is an ATB system at work here. What the fuck, /v/??

>>383581848
I mean 15 is the worst mainline game in the series so why is it even worth pointing out.

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>Job System
>Doesn't change visual appearance
This is kind of trash

>>383568884
I'm perfectly fine with it selling like shit. If it got popular, SE would milk the shit out of it and inevitably ruin it. Look at Compilation of FFVII or FFX2.5. The worst Ivalice got was Revenant Wings (which was admittedly really bad but at least one and done).

Now we have 4 amazing Ivalice games (5 of you count Vagrant Story) and one of the best remaster we could hope for without normies and fatcats ruining the worldbuilding.

>>383585843
It's kind of like how Fallout started at 3. Is this some kind of Star Wars shit where the gaps will be filled in with the better prequels later on?

>>383586003
You mean why does neo/v/ defend shitty remasters? I don't know.

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>>383585986
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why they got rid of it.
Disgusting excuse for a human.

>>383586126
Why are you mad? I'm just telling you why they removed it.

>>383568884
They should just remake FF9 instead of wasting time on this garbage.

>>383586080
>) and one of the best remaster we could hope for
how delusional are you
>4 amazing Ivalice games
you're beyond help

>>383586003
Forgive me for preferring a game's original menus instead of a cold unfeeling black extension of the colossus that is Sony.

>>38358615
Why? You fat fucks would just cry about that too.

>>383586190
I forgive you. You didn't choose to be autistic.

>>383586151
Why are you assuming I'm mad? I'm just pointing out the obvious.

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>>383585696
>implying any final fantasy game is hard
>implying any rpg is hard
oh boy

>>383581045
To be fair, the whole cast of FFX are some of the most autistic group of people I have ever seen in a video game. Not in the meme way, I mean they all seem like they're genuinely somewhere on the spectrum.

>>383586165
Explain how it is a bad remaster exactly? It adds new content to the west, touched up the visuals and the sound quality, enables to you use all the jobs instead of only being able to use half and gives you reasons to explore with chests actually having useful shit.

If you want to cite the difficulty part then I would say it is actually harder than the original released in the west seeing as everyone could just unlock the full board and have the same copy pasted builds that destroy the game

>>383586223
I guess you're right. They did make worse decisions, such as allowing you to select all the jobs instead of half.

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>mfw picking this up after work and going to play it for 300+ hours while you guys continue to wallow in your own misery on this cancerous board

>>383586364
How is having more options a bad thing?

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>>383586293

>>383586364
You do know you can choose not to have the extra jobs right? Just because they added more options doesn't mean you have to be such a autistic little fuck because the choice is there

>>383586356
you said it was the best you could ask for and there is a laundry list of faults. deflect harder nigger.

>forced job system
>cant play vanilla with turbo and new visuals

0/10

People may shitpost all they want, it's not gonna remove the fact that others are going to put 100 of hours in it and enjoy it

>>383586503
your life is a laundry list of faults

>>383586435
The game isn't balanced for it. An already braindead easy game that literally plays itself is now over twice as easy.

>>383586503
I'm not the same anon mate, I just replied to your post saying why it is a decent remaster

>>383577317

blame reddit for that

>>383586585
The game was never balanced though.
How is this a complaint specific to the remaster or the dual-job system?

With the job system, which character should have which job for a good run? I hope to kill yiazmat

>>383586702
You can use all jobs

>>383586293
>implying "hard" and "easy" is a binary characteristic and games can't be harder and easier

>>383586596
you replied wrong. after reading your post you are an idiot like him too though.

>If you want to cite the difficulty part then I would say it is actually harder than the original released in the west seeing as everyone could just unlock the full board and have the same copy pasted builds that destroy the game
retard. the original game was harder than IZJS and IZJS is much harder than Zodiac Age. Condensing boards into jobs makes your characters stronger and now you have 2 jobs.

Im busy

>>383586797
All rpgs are on the easier side of the spectrum. None of them come close to bordering past medium difficulty.

Why are you obese autists spending hours discussing a game you don't even want to play lmao

You guys are like Republicans that get caught being gay

>>383586809
Except you are incorrect, the difficulty goes IZJS>ZA>Original

The sheer fact that the whole board is available to everyone is enough to make it easier IZJS is harder because it limits the options and ZA is in the middle because whilst still limiting it is less so that IZJS. You strike me as someone who never played the original just a person who wants to shitpost about games he hasn't played or understands

>>383587014
False.

>>383587031
Except it's not but sure keep believing that mate hell you can't even access the zodiac spear early in the later releases

>>383587014
The entire job board didn't have as many boosts so early on and it took significantly longer to fill out. So no, he's right. Especially about ZA being easier than IZJS.
>4x speed, twice the jobs, and trial mode

I made vaan a samurai but I've seen he can only learn to equip magic robes. What gives? Is samurai a caster class in this game or what?

>>383587014
here is your (you)

>>383587117
you don't need good weapons to stream roll this game you spastic fuck.

>>383587136
Katana damage is based on the user's magick stat.

>>383573348
No it didn't. Are you retarded?

>>383586875
>obese autists
there's your answer

>>383587014
At the same time in IZJS you have higher endgame stats, stronger weapons and no damage cap.

>>383587014
>You strike me as someone who never played the original just a person who wants to shitpost about games he hasn't played or understands
How ironic.

>>383586064
Haven't played XV yet but there's no way it's worse than XIII
...right...?

>I thought people were excited for this game

But why? The game is fucking terrible.

>>383587234
Hm, can I still dual class him to another fighter oriented job or should I pick up something like time/red mage

>>383586452
Great soundtrack

>>383587541
It's worse somehow.

FF is fucking dead.

>>383587590
You'll be able to mix and match armour from your two classes. Do whatever you want, the game's pretty easy. There's absolutely no need to min/max anything.

>>383587014
Job Boards > the original board in terms of powering you up. It just means you can't do everything on one character, but why would you? And you have six characters to begin with.

>>383587590
Samurai has kind of weird stats, in that it has high magic but only a single spell to cast and while it's melee damage benefits from magic, it still benefits more from strength. However, it's such a good job that it's hard to go wrong with any dual. Ideal would probably be something like Knight or Monk, as they boost its str while giving it access to healing and thus a good outlet for the high magic. Samurai, Monk, and Hunter are the supreme auto-attackers due to the combo rates on their weapons, so splicing in offensive magic probably isn't the best idea.

>>383587541
It isn't.

>>383588212
XV-kun just woke up.

>>383587541
better than XIII, worse than XIII-2 and Lightning Returns

anyone got a pdf of the new prima games guide, my old one is useless.

>>383588018
Hunter/Red Mage is the best tank in the game.

>>383588627
hunter/foebreaker + heavy armor

>>383568884
That's a shame. I loved 12 because it was in Ivalice.

>>383588436
Yeah, I wake up everyday thinking to myself "at least I don't like XIII".

>>383588687
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75541640

>>383568884
If it wasn't for the shitfest that FFXIII was, this would be considered the worst FF.

>>383589029
Same thing could be said about FF "corridor simulator" X

>>383589137
true.
FF went downhill fast with X.
But I couldn't even finish XIII, so, regarding a complete experience, XII is still the worst for me.

>>383589307
Type-0 is still the best

>>383585247
KH 1 favorite childhood game <>/v/ shits on it
FF12 favorite teen game > /v/ shits on it
Darksouls favorite adult game > /v/ shits on it even though it's nothing short of a masterpiece

>>383589471
>Darksouls favorite adult game > /v/ shits on it even though it's nothing short of a masterpiece
There are near constant threads about the damn games and you have the audacity to say /v/ hates it?

>>383589471
People are full of shit. XII was a good game, XIII was a decent game. I like all FF games, don't give a shit what autists here say.

>>383569048
Maybe its because people picked it up the night before

Can anyone who has it comment on the input lag? I heard it was a serious issue.

>>383590390
Not noticed any myself so who knows

>>383590254
>XII was good
>XIII was decent
So you enjoy any shit jrpg no matter how bad they are huh.

>>383590254
XII was the best Final Fantasy.

>>383591595
Not him but 12 is a 7/10 and 13 is a 6/10 not up to standards with the rest of the series but not "bad" games. I enjoyed the battle system of 13 even if everything else dragged it down and 13-2 was a 7/10 as well with the improved battle system and the monster collection system despite the whole convoluted time travel bullshit.

Sure the stories in these games aren't the strongest but they are enjoyable to play at least for me

>>383591595
Just said don't give a fuck what autists here think and yet you go and give your opinion.

>>383591626
It's just funny to me when people start saying well writing is shit, this is shit, like they're some kind of an expert on the matter.

>>383572813
But Lightning isn't in this ga-

Oh Christ they didn't add her in, did they?

>>383568884
The zodiac job system made it very easy, vanilla FFXII is harder and much more challenging

>>383592146
>Comes to discuss videogames
>But I don't care about anyone's opinions, I like these objectevely bad games
>Nobody here can be an expert on the genre, everyone should be like me who apparently has played less rpgs than they have fingers
Why are you even here

>>383590002
and half of them all full of DS2 autists shitting on bloodborne and DS

>>383582414
Butts is the bomb, dude.

>>383585843
Actually the only ff games people know about are 7, 10, 13, 14, and 15.

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>>383587541
It's literally unfinished. If the DLC was woven into the main story and content wasn't cut people would shut up. Not completely, but a lot less. As someone who adores the game, I understand where they're coming from.

XIII was at least a finished product and still holds up visually and has a still amazing OST. It may be ill remembered but certainly not for being incomplete or taking less than 10 hours to beat.