Grimoire is coming, bros. I can feel it releasing any second

>>383279343
IT'S RELEASED QUICK CHECK THE PAGE

>Cleve, twenty years ago

15/11/97
I come from an era when speed was everything - to survive as an
independent contractor you had to be superhuman, there was no choice, it
was pure necessity. Most of today's stable programmers are like plump,
well-fed poodles who sleep on satin cushions compared with the lean, mean
school of 8K boundaries and hidden ROM storage I cut my teeth in. It is a
hideous nightmarish world of sleeplessness, instant noodles, jolt cola
and keeping the front door jammed with your foot against your landlord
while screaming long distance you know damn well the game is selling, you
were just in Sears and their computer department said it was going off
the shelf as fast as they could stock it, where the hell is the royalty
check?!? In this Darwinian world of games design, most modern programmers
are like ALF or E.T. whereas I would be more like the Queen Egglayer from
ALIENS.

***
Grimoire is now 250,000 lines of extremely trim, packed code! And it has
been seriously optimized lately to eliminate a lot of code that was
replaced with more efficient C++ objects!! The executable is 900K!! The
combat module is 50,000+ lines by itself!!

Sir-Tech has had nearly 17 years of development of the Wizardry series,
no author after Andrew Greenberg ever started from scratch for them. All
of them, even David Bradley, built on existing code and enhanced it. I am
the only person in the universe since the Big Bang who has ever written a
first-person RPG this complex by himself from scratch with no help,
encouragement or aid from anyone in the galaxy except me while holding
down a full-time job.

RPGs are really HARD compared with other genres. I am not asking for
pity, again, but believe me if you'll just think about how many problems
could pop up when God was creating the world, you'll get some idea of the
difficulties posed for someone who is merely superhuman like myself. The
details go on and on like a bad dream.

>>383279470
wtf its real i love thals now

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23 YEARS IN THE MAKING

>>383279304
Were they actually more intelligent as well or that's just Cleve spewing bullshit? I guess the answer is obvious if they went extinct because incompetence to hunt small things

>>383279343
If Grimoire releases EVER, I'll eat a crow with my ass.

>Cleve, twenty years ago

31/7/97
My current project, Grimoire, is 175,000 lines of C++ I wrote in less
than 12 months, easily the most complex and enjoyable computer fantasy
roleplaying game of all time

>>383279414
His "son" has a blog even. But it hasn't been updated for a while. The whole Cleve person is batshit insane and dangerous.

>>383279643
Don't put your ass on that. Blackbird is legitimately good if it's done right.

>>383279343
Last thread died as I asked
Which Might and Magic should I pirate since Cleave lied.

>>383279858
3-6

>Cleve, now

Who have you worked with in the past who has given you the impression they are competent to test a game of this size and complexity with an entire team of Q&A people paid to be on the job 24/7? That person lied to you, it's Dunning Kruger. They don't even realise what is being talked about.

In my final once-over before making up the Steam package I discovered one thing after another. Nothing major or crashing or even a glitch that would keep you from finishing the game. Just some things I should do before releasing it. I am working on it around the clock now, it will be out shortly. It was predictable IF you understand how big and complex the game is.

>>383279526
this guy's a character

>>383279595
Is he more autistic than Toady?

>>383279643
t. humanmonkey

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>>383279343
>unironically shilling the game of a crazy autistic faggot

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THIS IS NOT A DRILL
I REPEAT
THIS IS NOT A DRILL

can i get a quick rundown?
been seeing those threads for a while but never suspected there is so much autism involved behind them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyXSCd2Lp0

THE INCLINE COMETH

>>383279632
They had bigger brains, which Cleve interprets as them being smarter. But brain size isn't the main defining property of intelligence, brain complexity (in physical terms, how many bumps and twists the brain has) is far more important. Which is, for example, why dogs are -way- more intelligent than koalas.

There's very little proof of Neanderthal intelligence. They had no culture, no written language of any kind, and it's even highly debated whether they even had a spoken language. Nobody knows for sure, but if they were smart they sure didn't leave behind anything to prove it.

There's some evidence that they interacted and even interbred with Sapiens on a somewhat notable scale, which to me would suggest that they were able to relate to Sapiens on at least some basic level, but I don't believe for a second that they were as smart or even smarter.

>>383279998
crazy man who thinks he's a neanderthal has been making a game for 23 years, had had many delays, was finally supposed to come out yesterday, didn't, shitstorm ensued

Yeah but will it be fun?

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>>383279965
>inb4 it's a drill

>>383280142
You can ride on turtles.

>>383279526
> boasting hundreds of thousands of LoC
> boasting a subsystem required 50000 LoC
Jesus christ. That's something to be ashamed of not celebrate. This guy sounds like those jackasses that gets paid for churning out shitty code rather than lean, elegant solutions

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>>383279998
Here. Have a very small taste. There is so much more.

come the fuck on i have my $40 here ready

>>383279526
>250,000 lines of extremely trim, packed code

>>383280213
Riding your mom is more fun

>>383280416
My mom's dick is pretty big.

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>>383279343
I really, really want Grimoire to not only be released, but also for it to be every bit as good as Cleve claims it is. I will literally record a video of me going town on my knees and apologizing to Cleve for every single negative comment I ever made about him and his game if that ever happens, and publicly upload it to Youtube for everyone to see. Feel free to fucking screenshot this.

Unless that actually happens though, I will keep treating him like the autistic subhuman failure he is and will keep calling out his game for being a fucking mess that will never be released.

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How long until the Sun tells him to stop developing it?
Clearly Grimoire now has content mankind was never meant to know

>>383280470
> A bunch of trolls
> And teemo
I really should read TGT someday.

The game is ready when it's ready.

I guess sape apes like you wouldn't understand.

>>383279920
Toady is the good type of autist.

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I just wanna pirate this already so I can laugh at how bad it is.
But then again, its a dungeon crawler RPG, and knowing that fanbase, they are so starved for games they'd swallow down any shit thrown in their direction at this point. So people will defend it anyway

GRIMWA

Game isn't coming out guys. Stop shilling it, it's not going to happen. Just let him fade back to rpg Codex and never be seen again.

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>>383279998

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>>383279343
>40$ for a game that was probably outdated 20 years ago

nigga what

>>383280613
Who would win in a fight?

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>>383280636
I was looking forward to this too. To pirate the game, see how shit it is, then criticize it and see Cleve and the fanboys of the genre lose their shit. It was gonna be the perfect Sunday. Fuck you, Cleve.

>>383279920
toady at least has a game that feels like 20 years of work have been put into it
he's the best kind of sperglord

>>383279957
>being a moralfag

>>383279957
These threads are fun and are about video games unlike most threads in /v/

>>383280728
No, this is too much fun

>>383280807
Toady since he would be assisted by his brother Zach.

>>383279343
This game is going to be amazing once released, every npc will have a rich interaction with the world, and enemy encounters can be solved with numerous ways, even convincing some enemies to help you on your journey. The system is what happens if you take negotiating with demons in Shin Megami Tensei and multiply that by the number of words in the bible. I have been testing this game for around 5 years, and each test copy I got up until the almost finished product was packed full with even more detail. The 600+n hours are for the main story line and Party member quests alone. But that doesn't even begin to touch the scope of the game, you can raise up your own city and build your dungeon underneath to then share with other players. Their is a rich political and religious tapestry that covers the city building aspect of the game. The other features are just as in depth and easily add another 500 hours for a complete run.

wtf?? THIS SHIT IS UP. REFRESH PAGE

>>383280043
This is the most amazing thing I've seen.

That kraken looks like fucking shit.

>Game looks so utterly beautiful that tears are mixing with the mascara as they run down my cheeks.
Tell me /v/, why does he wear the make-up?

>>383280043
That sounds like a b-side from the protomen

>>383281049
>each test copy I got up until the almost finished product was packed full with even more detail
You mean the "almost finished product" from 1997, 2003, 2005, 2013, 2016, or yesterday?

This game has been "almost finished" for so long it's a bad joke.

>>383280636
why do weebs get so panicked and go into a shitposting frenzy when a good western release is on the horizon? are they too stupid to play western games?

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>>383281215
FUCKING THIS!

Instead of swallowing in Cleve's lies and reading about all this nonsense which is interesting and funny but I think I have donated enough of my personal time to support Cleve's existence. You see, without US he wouldn't exist. Without people replying to his rpg codex / steam / whatever posts he wouldn't exist and would cease away.

I know how to code in c and python scripting too, I think instead of even reading anything about this fucking narcissist I am going to start to code my own game. Just for shit and giggles. Basic 2d dungeon crawler engine. Should be doable in less than 20 years. I promise. Because after all this fuzz I kind of got a spark to start coding hobby again.

I marked your words anon from yesterday. Holy shit cant believe you were right and this shit has been delayed lmao. Some people have the nose

>>383281468
>Should be doable in less than 20 years.
Yeah, but it'll be shit.

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>>383280043

>constant heavy breathing into mic
>pronouncing always as all-wise
>tell tale autistic lisp

holy shit this is beautiful and I'm not even 5 minutes in

>>383281484
You don't have to have the nose in this case. It was obvious from the start.

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>>383281446
Thanks for the laugh. I think I see the purpose of these threads now

>>383280807
I feel Cleve would win in a one-on-one, because he actually has that sperg rage and Neanderthal muscles to fuel him.

Toady has actual human beings who care about him and support him though, so he could call in help and wreck Cleve.

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Guys, Maybe today Cleve will finally let us hand him $40 dollary doos.

>>383281685
How many tags do we need to actually get Vaporware on the description?

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>>383281049
>The system is what happens if you take negotiating with demons in Shin Megami Tensei and multiply that by the number of words in the bible.

>>383281893
Just has to have a ton of people do it. Every person needs to do it to make it happen.

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>>383281631
>autistic
Cleve isn't autistic, he has aspergers which is just another word to describe his superior thal brain.

Get your facts straight, you fucking sape ape.

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>>383280043
>ridiculed as an elaborate hoax by asutralians

>>383280495
>sunless sea 2 development cycle.png

>>383282087
>little sape brain can't wrap his mind around it

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>Game looks so utterly beautiful that tears are mixing with the mascara as they run down my cheeks. I ... never ... dreamed ... my game would finally look this good.
>Almost there. Game is looking ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE. As soon as it is ready will post deployable package to Steam for approval.
Do you think he will kill himself when his bubble of delusion finally breaks, and the game gets shit reviews and/or totally bombs? Or do you think he'll go on such a rant of pure autism to fuel /v/ threads for years to come?

>>383281446
haha, oh wow anon, I laughed so hard, thank you.

>>383282087
Wait until you see it in action, dumb sape. Your puny mind will be blown.

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Cleve is a batshit insane faggot and this game is going to be shit.

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>>383281639

oh dont be jelly anon. YOur time to shine will come too

>>383281587
Genius, I said for shit and giggles. Technical proof of concept and to teach myself coding. Nothing else.

>>383281468
>we are all mentally ill and just imagining cleve and his delusions
>if we wake up from this nightmare, he will cease to exist
crazy, I know, but only a sape wouldn't believe this

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>the 7/7 release date is till on the Steam page

Completely shameless.

>>383282389
As long as people react and answer to Cleve's fallacies and fantasist lies he exists. After all he's just an internet poster, giant shit poster and troll.

>>383280091
>crazy man who thinks he's a neanderthal
I want more information

>>383282374
I was one of the people who said it won't come out tho.

>>383282232
Why is he wearing mascara?

>>383282232
Most likely a rant, considering he's got the Asperger. He wont understand why no one else likes it. He wont be able to figure it out. Instead he'll go on a rant telling everyone they're just unable to realize his genius and then he'll be a lolcow for years to come.

>>383282484
he's in my head anon, there is nothing I can do against it. his superior thal mind powers are making me his bitch

>>383282495
Read the fucking thread.

There is something uniquely damaging in the practice of eroding a man's faith either in another man or in God himself. I do not by any means equate you to God, but people have indeed put faith in you. You have attacked that faith, viciously, and gone so far as to grind it into the dirt with your boot heel. Funny thing about faith; once lost, it tends not to come back. God have mercy on you, Cleve, for this was your calling (I think -- it is within each man himself to know for sure).

I'm trying to tell you that even if you did pull off some kind of miracle now, it may not matter. The ill-will likely outweighs any faith that was still there.

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>>383282556

why th edge tho.

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NEVER FUCKING EVER RELEASING.

>>383279343
What games should I play instead of this shit? I want to play a game in this style but have no clue where to start.

Should I start with Wizardry 6-7 or 8?

>>383282495
Aspies actually have the superior brain structure of Neanderthals and are not weird, Sapiens just hate instinctively hate near-humans.

>>383282904
GRIMOIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>383282851
Wizardry 8, it is the one that had aged the least and in my opinion it was the best in the Wizardry series.

so the game cleve worked on wasn't even going to be a mainline wizardry. Sirtech said it might get the title only if it was really good.

I guess it being canceled because aussies blow at making games made the dude go crazy.

>>383282851
Etrian Odyssey. Simple, Straightforward.
Lots of Lolis to pander to the weeb crowd usually found on 4chan.

>>383279920

Toady is a chill guy. Doesn't feel like an awkward autist at all.

>>383279526

So, what income was this guy living off of for the last 20 years?

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How did this get on Steam?

>>383283071
He paid the $100 for a Steam Greenlight page.

>>383283038
autismbux i guess?

>>383282849
Okay i have to break kayfabe here
That's the joke dude
That's why people haven't responded since you started this last thread
None of us actually like or believe in grimoire. It's never ever status is the only reason we're paying any attention to a mediocre outdated crawler game
You spamming "never ever xD smug face" as if it's disgaea 5 PC or something just makes people skip over your posts without thinking about, except maybe a passing "wow this new fag doesn't get it"

Stop

>>383283071
Are you serious? Dumbass.

>>383282851

Legend of Grimrock

>>383283215
Rude.

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>>383283210
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

I wonder if there's actually a game or not. apparently some people actually played a beta that was the size of a proper dungeon crawler. On the other hand the way he delays riiight before anyone sees anything screams scam to me.

>>383282904
get 8 if you're a sape

>>383283210
Autism.

>>383282904
Play 6, than 8.

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>>383283210

>>383283326
Because it is a scam. As long as he never releases it, he can claim it's the "Greatest Game Ever Made!" because no one can prove otherwise.

>>383282904
I'm pondering the same but I think W8 is probably most easily approachable games. It pays to check some Matt's youtube videos probably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIaeJWXuWBg

>>383283210
>None of us actually like or believe in grimoire. It's never ever status
Yeah... I think thats literally what anon was refering to you idiot

>>383283426
t. Puny brained sape

>>383279957
What game?

>>383282851

They beat me to it.

I'll just chime in to reaffirm that EO, W8, and Grimrock are all solid games. Grimrock is realtime though.

>>383283235
>Legend of Grimrock
Are you always in a dungeon in this game. I can only find outdoor screenshots for it's sequel. I kinda wanted some NPC interaction too.

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>>383283210
ASK HIM ANYTHING

>>383283030
This. Japan has long since taken over the dungeon crawler market.

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>>383283452
>Devils Proof

>>383282805
Blame Cleve, he blueballed us all with the game. Even if I was anticipating it, it still hurts.

>>383279343
Anyone find a temple in the village after beating the bandits in the demo,lost three of my five man team ;_;

>>383283573
90% of the time you're outside, which I fucking hated because there are never any intricative puzzles outside.

>>383283738
Will Grimoire release if I finally finish umineko?

>>383284017
No.

But do it anyway. It'll give you a fun new reason to hate yourself.

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>>383284017
No
it will release severe depression and disappointment in you though, so don't finish it and keep the magic alive

>>383283873
>intricative
Sape.

>>383279343
There's no market in pandering to morons. I wouldn't want to make that kind of money.

Grimoire is an elite game that is unlike anything else up on the Steam store. I defy you to find anything like it in the thousands of games listed. I defy you to find a game like it on the planet. It's not even a Wizardry clone really - it's everything Wizardry should have been but never was.

I'm not competing with Sir-Tech any more. Amongst other reasons, they went bankrupt 17 years ago.

I'm not competing with anybody. Grimoire is the pinnacle of the peak of the summit of the incline. I could probably get 99.95 from a lot of people but I don't want to limit it just to the very elect of RPG players. I made a compromise and and priced it somewhere just under current AAA titles. The truth is there is not an AAA title you could buy nowadays that deserves to crawl up on a high chair and plant a kiss in the crack of Grimoire's ass when it comes to enjoyment, immersion and wonderful escape.

I say all this with confidence because I have been playing my game 12 hours a day for two months and I can assure you there has never been anything like it in all of recorded human history. It's the greatest thing ever to emerge from that genre. The fact is, people who enjoy that genre are considering it cheap at that price. If you are not a connoisseur of the genre then why would I amend anything in it to appeal to you? It's like saying Mozart needed more cowbell.

Trust what I am saying. Those of you who played the demo and got the scent of greatness will know the full game has achieved it. For whatever it lacks it has much more in abundance.

I was just playing Kublai Cathedral to check all the logic and was almost weeping tears of joy at how wonderfully told the story of everything is in the game. I had forgotten a lot of it and it was like reading the work of someone else.

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>>383283607
Etrian Odyssey IV works on latest Citra almost perfectly.

>>383281685
>that UI

WINDOWS WITHIN WINDOWS WITHIN WINDOWS

>>383284330
It's easy to see how his design sensibilities are still stuck in the early 90s.

Which isn't entirely a bad thing of course, but damn son, some things like UI design have come so fucking far in the last 25 years that this shit doesn't serve any purpose but to piss people off.

>>383284330
fuck off sape ape, you don't understand

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its not coming out today or ever

>>383283470
>may the forks be with you
Ugh. Why?

>>383284695
It's 5am here in australia. Dude is a hero, slaving away squashing micro bugs to make up for the delayed release.

>>383284695
It'll be here pretty soon, don't worry. He's just fixing some yacto-issues that not even The Flash noticed.

>>383284850
Wasn't he playing Stalker yesterday after missing the Release Date?

>>383284850
>slaving away squashing micro bugs
You mean shitposting on the Codex.

when will nay-sayers be eating crow?

>tfw too sape to see Planck length sized bugs

The depot is ready to upload as soon as the next version is ready. Working my way through remaining issues, fixed truckloads of them in a single day today that I only discovered in the last 48 hours.

>When doing a random review of a merchant I discovered due to a glitch from changes to inventory hoard database this guy was selling Mithril Armor for 1 gold each. Very frustrating.

posted 3 hours ago

this fucking game isn't real. either that or it's going to be buggier than a bethesda game.

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>>383282314

>>383285104
2236, five years after the end of the third Martian War.

>>383285181
how is he even finding these things, and if he can spot that, how could he let it slip in there in the first place?

>>383280327
>>383280340
That's tiny.

>>383285395
23 YEARS OF CODE NIGGA 23 YEARS OF CODE

>>383285395

it's all made up so he can justify another delay I wonder if there's some way steam will take this shit down.

>>383285395
He's been using this "the game will release soon, I just have to fix these little bugs first" excuse for more than a decade.

It's 100% lies.

>not coming out today either.
I'm mad.

>>383283542
Chapter 3

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>>383284330
I've got the perfect game for you.

>>383285181
>mithril armor for 1 gold

he should have left it in for players to find AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

>>383283071
That can be asked about a lot of games on steam

>>383285395
depends on how the game is coded really. some older games are such a mess of code that they really don't even know HOW it works, it just does. Allegiance comes to mind particularly since i tried to mess with it's code one time, only to find a labyrinth of pain and suffering.

Isn't the developer literally a nazi?

At least that's what they used to say on RPGCodex.

>>383285395
If and this is a big if the game is real he could have made those mistakes 10 plus years ago and only finding them now. Even if this is true he is still autistic to the highest degree and I doubt that the game will ever be released until the day he dies (unless his son takes up the mantle to continue the work passing it along down generations until it is finally released when the last remaining human finally finishes it.)

>>383284913
I wonder what he's going to do with floating point precision? Floating point precision differs between cpu manufacturers. You just can't have your 20 years of development and let it have billionth of micro decimals differing.

>>383285583
this looks interesting

So, when can we expect the next release date to start counting down to? That's how the cycle always goes.

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>>383285750

>>383280416
>>383280456
ROASTED

>>383284695
my god somebody please just ask the guy for a timetable at least then we'll know when to expect a release & not be in the dark

>>383286008
u think hes gonna message me with a timetable? dudes a scam artist

Release date says 07/07/17. I guess it counts for the neanderthal calendar.

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>>383285750

>>383285785
He's an autistic sperglord. He is made of floats and speaks in transistor flip-flop.

I can't believe that you actually thought he was going to release it this time only because it had a Steam page.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it's the pressure he put on the game that makes him make up excuses to not release it. Hell, he might not even be aware that is the issue.

Either way, don't hold your breath.

>>383286008
yeah then we'll definitely know when it's coming out

>>383286093
thal brains operate at a higher clock speed than sapes

>>383285952
he's right about the australians desu

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If you can't ship a bug-free game, you shouldn't ship at all. Cleve is absolutely justified in taking his time.

23 years is not a long time to wait for a masterpiece. Imagine if every game took 23 years to develop: No more bugs, no more quick cash-ins. Sure, there'd be fewer games, but the ones we'd have would all be masterpieces.

>>383286407
semen demon?

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>>383285952
none of this happened, this guy is so full of shit its ridiculous. no way in hell did he "jump into the east river during winter to fish some black crackhead up who passed out smoking on the docks" or " open with a fake breakdancing act in the military at the soldiers club on saturday nights because i wanted to make the black troupe in my barracks look good from contrast"

where the fuck does he come up with this shit?

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>>383285952
>>383286110
This is the apex of humanity

>>383286407
Literally all of the best CRPGs were buggy at release, and the majority of them were never properly patched. Unless the bugs are game-breaking (and Cleve claims to have solved all of those at least 12 years ago), they won't ruin a good game.

And every single one of those games was infinitely better than Grimoire, because they actually got released.

>>383286510
You mean Star Butterfly? She's not a slut, and she doesn't approve of "shippable bugs" either.

>>383285753
you mean, when his cleve personality dies and his cooper personality takes over? I wonder if all his personas start with a c
maybe the next one will be cunt

>>383286539
He's literally "that kid" except instead of 12 years old he's in his 50s.

>>383284695
What a hero he is working his ass off to get it released.

>>383286681
thank you for the first half, i stopped reading afterwards

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>>383285553
its not coming out tomorrow either

Would be hilarious if someone just got hold of a super buggy alpha and released it on Piratebay. Not only would everyone get the game for free, but they'd also unjustly hate it for its bugs.

>>383286407
I guarantee you that his game will have multiple bugs some being really fucking bag. Your favorite games were probably buggy as shit

>>383286669
>And every single one of those games was infinitely better than Grimoire, because they actually got released.

This is the philosophy that's killing video games.

>Oh, it doesn't matter if it's buggy! Let's just ship it anyway! :^)

Gamers deserve better. Gamers deserve prefection.

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>dude really thinks he is a neanderthal

what is this insanity

So a totally-buttmad Cleve steals code from Sirtek 20+-years-ago and doesn't know what to do with it, let alone finish a game with said code, while trashing his coworkers for decades. What delicious schadenfreude. The sapes win yet again.

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>>383286681
>She's not a slut, and she doesn't approve of "shippable bugs"
It's funny because she's literally a slut AND a bug.

>>383286407
So I guess FFXV neede 13 more years eh?

>>383286954
>This is the philosophy that's killing video games.
No, it isn't. Promising something for decades and then not delivering on it, however, is.

>>383286983
The game is in full working order but the game is also around 5 times as massive as Skyrim. It takes a long time for one man to bug test.

That character art is really terrible.

>>383287306
There's nothing about the game that isn't terrible.


That's the joke.

>>383287130
>So I guess FFXV neede 13 more years eh?
If they'd spent a few more years on it, it might've turned out good.

The gaming industry has a term called known shippable bugs. They literally compile a list of bugs, say "these ones don't matter", and release the game without fixing them. Because people will give them money anyway.

If people demanded refunds any time they found a bug in a game, no matter how small, this practice would end.

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>>383287232
Perhaps he should release the game and let people bugtest for him.

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>>383286954
>Don't actually address the issue of Never releasing, instead I'll deflect it to to "Gamers deserve more."
Shut up faggot. Release the game then we can complain about not being perfect. Until then it's VAPORWARE, and you have no fucking ground to stand on.

>>383285583
what game? I'd pay $40 for this.

>>383287306
The character art doesn't matter if the game isn't real.

>>383287403
>If people demanded refunds any time they found a bug in a game, no matter how small, this practice would end.
If people demanded refunds any time they found a bug in a game, there would have never been a single published product in the history of video games.

>>383287441
http://store.steampowered.com/app/588950/Kingsway/

it isn't out yet, but it says summer 2017

>>383287413
NO
IT HAS TO BE PERFECT

>>383287535
>If people demanded refunds any time they found a bug in a game, there would have never been a single published product in the history of video games.
Good. We should not be using technology we don't fully understand. Let's go back to simple 16-bit games until we figure out how to produce bug-free 3D games.

>>383287403
>The publishing industry has a term called Known Shippable Errors. They literally compule a list of typos, say "these ones don't matter" and release the book without fixing them. Because people will give them money anyway.
>If people demanded refunds any time they found a typo in a book, no matter how small, this practice would end.

There will always be something we can find and point at to say it's wrong. I'd rather being deal with a non-breaking bug (oh no, if I click this button, the icon for it half-appears for a second then it goes back to normal!) then never see the game because some dumb fuck with Asperger can't handle a single imperfection.

Even the greatest masterpieces have imperfections faggot. Deal with it.

>>383287750
Simple 16-bit games had plenty of bugs as well.

>>383287467
>how can the character art be real if the game's not real?

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>>383287750
Nice troll bro, 10/10 will repost on /r gaming!

I don't know why he is such an autistic perfectionist when it comes to code, yet he's perfectly fine with those DeviantArt tier portraits and enemy designs.

>>383287884
Show me a single bug in Super Mario World.

Tip: You can't. Games were made without patches in mind back then, and especially Nintendo titles used to be bulletproof before they were allowed onto shelves.

>>383288035
shut up, if you start talking about that he is going to scrap the entire game for the tenth time and repay a new artist to redo everything from the ground up.

>>383288035
because being autistic/aspergers doesn't mean being a virtuoso with OCD. They just fixate on very innate things

>>383288109
>Show me a single bug in Super Mario World.
Oh boy.

https://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Super_Mario_World_glitches

What drove him into insanity? Did Sir-Tech devs regularly make fun of him with a neanderthal running joke constantly?

>>383288287
He was always a megasperg, but in the 80s he was working on his own doing insignificant little shovelware games. Working in a team on a major project unhinged his childlike mind, and having the project cancelled when he failed to produce anything for two years broke it for good.

>>383288035
He actually redid those two times already, though. He's just not an artist, and he's poor, so all he can afford are Deviantart tier artists.

Stop being so pessimistic guys, it's only a minor delay. Remember what Miyamoto said?
>A rushed game will always be shit, a delayed game is automatically good.
Take your time Cleve, there's a whole bunch of us on this sub rooting for you (and not as in "having a root" lol that's a joke for us Aussies)!

>>383288736
Do you happen to have some screenshots of the original art? Just out of curiosity.

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>>383288035
did you SEE the dwarf shopkeeper or the wizard dealer last thread I guarantee if this actually releases somebody will redesign a majority of the NPC's or at lest the PC pictures

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>>383288750
>a whole bunch of us on this sub

get out redditor

>>383288750
I'd hardly call two decades a minor delay.

>>383288886
Here you go. The art from 1998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b7xuWdgiSc

Also, he's been through like 20 different title screens. Each one worse than the previous one.

>>383288750
>minor delay

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>>383288886

>>383289089
I actually like this cartoony look better.

It's not good, but at least it has charm.

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>Cleve creating the ultimate RPG
>Ulililia creating the ultimate platformer

What would happen if the two teamed up? Could they fuse their autism and create the ultimate video game?

>>383279526
I'm sorry but coders today are several times the man this guy is, all while working on pointless projects and being pure codemonkeys who live and breathe monotony. Give them a real project and they'd go apeshit, losing sleep and cutting ties with humanity like monks just to get the glory of having made something for their own gratification. He's a moron. He slaved over something fake, pointless, and full of stolen code. He talks shit on people who actually get things done as if when he was young he was having trouble with rent because it was all passion; no, it's because he spent all his money of gay hookers, rather than on the rent like he should've.

>>383289463
Uli likes to go swimming. That is his only interest nowadays. It's good, because platform masters was shit.

Also, Grimoire doesn't exist. There is no game.

Someone with a non-banned codex account go into the sir-tech thread and dig up the posts where Cleve claims to have lifted so much weight his gym had to buy more weights

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>>383289089
>>383289335
So, the Aeorbs were always there, huh?

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>>383289089
I think I have that demo but it won't install on windows 7 for some reason?

Do I have to use Dos-box maybe?

>>383289202
It is a minor delay he is fixing the last few things he found last night the game will be live in a week.

This is hilarious. http://jaggedalliance.wikia.com/wiki/Calvin_Barkmore
>Whoa! You one of those inspector guys? Let me tell you right off the bat that I run the most technologically advanced mine in all of Arulco. Built from the ground up with stolen American technology. But it's all mine.

>>383289643
Uli is so fucking retarded

I think he believes that not being afraid of water makes him normal so now he pretends to not like video games and swim all the time so people don't think he's weird.

>>383289649
Someone with a non-banned account should screencap all 90-something pages of that thread for shits and giggles. How would they react if they had it taken away from them?

>>383290028
He still plays grind games to fill time. I know him pretty well, and it's better than before. He at least believes in positive change and recovery; not a lot of people I've known who had obsessive compulsive disorder have ever used exposure therapy without any psych assistance to get better. Yes, he will always be a strange person, but it's good that he got over his fear of water. He got so fixated on it because it has been a forbidden thing, not only in his own mind but from his overprotective parents. Don't blame him for getting excited about something new and challenging.

>>383290015
Now that's some esoteric memeing

>>383289335
>that drow

That's it, I'm pirating this game and I'm gonna make a harem of cute dark elves.

its not happening, he went offline on steam, NEVER EVER

>>383290015
>your insanity will never get you into a video game
Why live?

>>383289643
>It's good, because platform masters was shit.
How dare you. That parallax scrolling system was groundbreaking.

Sir-Tech was full of funny dudes, just imagine the banter they had with him.

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Holy shit this guy is literally a /pol/ poster.

>>383290910
If you spent 5 minutes on his vault co blog you'd realize how retarded your surprise is

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>>383290448
that face doesn't exist anymore anon

>>383286650
>humanity

>>383290751
I'm fairly certain at this point the wild ride Cleve has created is based completely upon the fact that he couldn't handle the Bantz.

if neanderthals are so great why cant they make a single shitty wizardry clone in less than 20 years

also why were they bred to extinction intermingling with homo sapiens? if we are inferior why did we win the game of natural selection

cleve wouldnt know, though, hes only fucked little boy prostitutes and never produced whatever retarded aspie offspring he could make if hes even fertile

>>383290910
>muh dik

>>383290910
He's way past /pol/. Read: >>383285952 and >>383286110

>>383291202
Fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPsoxpt0BU

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>>383288227
DELETE THIS

>>383291202
I think the "suggest" is to add more portraits, it's still possible.

>>383291335
>couldn't handle the Bantz
>moved to Australia out of fear of nuclear war, anyway
No wonder he cracked.

>>383291676
Can't imagine why it wouldn't be, several 90s RPGs had custom portraits after all so it should be almost contemporary for this game.

>>383291676
No, suggest autopicks the most fitting portrait for the chosen race/class.

The game has no option to add your own portraits, though Cleve has mentioned that he might add that option later on.

THE MICROREVISIONS NEVER END
I WANT OUT OF MR. CLEVE'S WILD RIDE

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My Name is Cleve,
And I'm here to say,
I've made a perfect game,
You might just get to play!

With Humans, And Aeorbs, And even a Drow,
600 Hours and no Bugs to be found!

And now you have a game,
Where no Homo Sape will go,
It's not just Wizardy,
It's Grimoire you know!
Haha!

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>>383290910

>>383291952
>he might add that option later on
He couldn't add it in 23 years?

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>>383291202

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1999-10-23
>It's getting pretty warm to beta, actually.

2000
>Grimoire is going to be released this year. It may not seem like it right now but it is happening.

2001-09-05
>I may release Grimoire a couple of weeks after Wiz 8 - after all the Sir-Tech game is only 80 hours of play and mostly empty, I should let people have a good play of it so they can compare it with my masterpiece.

2001-10-21
>My problem for my entire life has been my overwhelming modesty and humility about my own ability level

2002-09-23
>That's why I got 25,000 hits in a single day last month. Grimoire is more anticipated now than ever before.

2002-05-23
>whereas MW rapidly was consigned to the same CD shovel heap that I tossed Daggerfall and Elder Scrolls onto a long time ago. Grimoire will be out soon enough. Then the readers of this newsgroup will get to see what a decent RPG actually looks like.

2002-10-21
>BG2 is a hollow sheep's bladder of nothingness inflated with the bloated bad smelling wind pumped into it by Interplay marketing.

2003-10-02
>I think Grimoire will be in beta testing this year and released first thing next year, possibly even in January. Of course, my estimates have been off by a few days in the past.

>>383288035
>>autistic perfectionist
He's a pretty average attention whore. Above average writing skill.

There's no concrete proof of him being involved in anything productive except for the Sir-Tech fiasco. For all we know he could have just grabbed the existing code and graphics and made it his own thing.

Hell, he could be masturbating to this thread right now.

>>383292151
hot af would fug

>>383292237
You forget that in October 1997 he said he could release Grimoire that same day if he wanted to, but he had to deal with some minor bugs first.

>>383291202
That Dracula girl is kinda cute.

I wonder if she has a penis.

>>383292246
>He doesn't know about the old texas arcane shovelware games

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>>383292428
Huh. Sounds familiar.

>>383289837
Post it on MEGA please.

>yfw clive claims the game has been completed since 2005, people are just testing it
>testing game for 12 years
what the fuck is this
Also it doesn't help that I can buy the dark savant trilogy for half the price he wants.

>>383292428
He is autistix, anything that doesn't see in his vision of the game is a bug.

did i miss something the last 23 years ?

wtf is this campy bullshit ?

who the fuck is this autismo ?

>>383292428

I'd hate to see what he considered a major bug.

I don't think Cleve even wants to release the game. He wouldn't know what to do at that point.

>>383292828
Homosapiens

>>383280636
>But then again, its a dungeon crawler RPG, and knowing that fanbase, they are so starved for games they'd swallow down any shit thrown in their direction at this point.
I agree, look at the Etrian fanbase and all the moe shit on vita.

>>383293086
If he releases it the journey is over.

Grimoire probably doesn't even exist. It's just Cleve's fever dream.

>>383292806
Cleve is basically a slightly less autistic Uli.

>>383289808
>no Neanderthal race

What did he mean by this?

What if the real Grimoire was the friends we made along the way?

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>look at this thread
>mfw implying a good chunk of you won't pirate/torrent the game

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>>383292779
>what the fuck is this
P E R F E C T I O N

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>>383291202
thanks Cleve I cum on beastwoman(?) she(?) hiss at penis

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Everyone say hi to the sapes at the Codex!

>>383293252
I think I got enough hours of entertainment out of these threads. Thanks Cleve, for making Grimwah.

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>>383292027

>>383293292
>perfection
perfection does not exist. trust me, i've learned that the hard way.

i bet that when he'll finally release the game he'll pull it within 24h because he will find a "important issue" (read: small inconviennce)

>>383293268
As I said earlier in the thread, I genuinely hope Grimoire will come out and be every bit as good as the Thal claims it is.

It won't, though. So I'll just pirate it to enjoy the schadenfreude.

It's done when it's done. Always bet on Neanderthal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veLbNuKeCwk&t=1s

>>383293381
I like how they panic when the realization hits that there might be non-Codexers reading their boards.

>>383293398
>when he''ll finally release the game
it surely is only a matter of hours

Is he really aiming for 39.95USD? That seems a little optimistic, considering the dated visuals and that dungeon crawlers are kind of a niche market.

>>383293381
>the absolute state of RPGCodex

>>383293398
Perfection doesn't exist when predicated on the work of sapes, anon

Prepare for a meaty, girthy Neanderthal game to blow you away

>>383293381
It's too late now. Some anons yesterday made sure to web-archive the entire thread.

Cleveland's autism is ours to review.

>>383293801
He could easily ask $100 for it. It doesn't matter since the game is not coming out.

I have one question only. Is there romance options?

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>>383289808
>mfw the thumbnail looks like a weird flesh face that has grey afro hair
i really need glasses

>>383281446
this

Here's a Q.R. on Cleve:

> 1990s
> has a brief and shitty career making dungeon crawlers
> ff 1998
> on the dole, no assets, no skills
> chronic neanderthal masturbator
> one day he's pulling one out and eyes an old directory on his vintage 386 msdos computer
> it's a beta copy of the last unreleased title he worked on
> he changes two pieces of art and releases it as the Grimoire demo
> ff 2 years ago
> still on the dole, an archNEET unlike any you've seen in this realm
> fires up his modem and checks out the new world of crowdfunding
> thinks "I can make a buck here"
> lays the groundwork while pretending to be insane
> ff today
> he's pulled in about 10K, enough to go to real court for fraud
> continues to pretend to be insane and working on his masterpiece while the heat dies down
> ff the end of time
> still no grimoire

>>383293947
Not yet, but he said he'll be adding those after release.

>>383293995
From the thumbnail, it looks like a zombie with a skeleton popping out. The moon is the cranium, the upper body is the face and the pants are the devilish smile.

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If this is supposed to be the best game ever how come they forgot to release it
>checkmate neanderthals

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>>383293381

>>383293938
>easily ask $100 for it
>>383294086
you made me kek, anon

keep up the job

>>383293381
>Join a book club
>State my opinion on a book
>what the fuck you just joined how can you have an opinion on this book

>>383294086
>ff 1998
You mean 1994.

That's when he started "development" on the game, aka passing off the remains of a Wizardry spinoff as his own work.

Also he didn't have a career making dungeon crawlers. He produced a bunch of shovelware garbage for the Commodore 64 in the late 80s and was then hired by Sir-Tech to make a Wizardry spinoff/potential sequel, which he never did so he got sacked.

>>383294149
He said he would work through tomorrow on the game to finish it up for release and then put the money from buys into starting the next phase of development that includes romance options, bread cooking, and modding tools.

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>>383293381
>A thread there
They don't know we've been having nonstop Grimoire threads for the past week? Did they really want to keep that sweet, sweet autism all for themselves?

>>383293801

I assume the thought process is that no one is going to impulse buy the game and the people who are going to pay for it will do so whether it's at $20 or $40 so why not milk 'em.

That is if it's actually going to come out.

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>>383293381
>>383293634
Codex is like 50% 4chan any way. How do you think they figured it out this quickly?

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I'm more optimistic about HL3 releasing before Grimoire at this point. Thing is, I'd rather play Grimoire than HL3. Sad state of affairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCb2476xeHk&t=23m33s
can someone photoshop anything of this battle into clive + grimoire

>>383294762
Yeah, codex member here, their more hidden forums are straight out of /pol/

>>383294538
>then put the money from buys into starting the next phase of development that includes romance options

Oh, boy. I can't wait to see how an autistic neanderthal handles romance in an early 1990s era blobber.

http://twocredits.co/columns/grimoire-heralds-winged-exemplars-latest-delay-one-decades-worth-broken-promises/
HOW WILL HE EVER RECOVER?

>>383294894
Cleve is probably the one who initially made the thread. And he's 100% /pol/ tier. He even uses /pol/ memes on his blog: http://vault-co.blogspot.com/

>>383291371
>also why were they bred to extinction intermingling with homo sapiens? if we are inferior why did we win the game of natural selection
Even supposing neanderthals were superior by some present-day human standard, those aren't necessarily the standards of nature. For starters, evolutionary fitness isn't the same "fitness" used in everyday context but just a representation of reproductive success. If, for example, neanderthal women found cro-magnon men more attractive and mated with them, that means cro-magnons had greater fitness and their alleles got more frequent in the population. Neanderthals are known to have lived in smaller social groups and that would have given cro-magnons a major edge in any interspecies conflicts. Neanderthals were more specialist in their diets (90% meat) and neanderthal populations were always low: the more generalist diet of modern humans would have sustained much larger populations, simply outbreeding the neanderthal. And so on. Sometimes an advantage in biological fitness is an objective handicap from the perspective of an outside observer (peacock's tail comes to mind as an obvious example). Hell, intelligence has a major downside (human brain uses about 20% of the energy we spend) and while I don't think this is the case in the paleolithic period, it's in principle possible that dumber humans were selected for because they had more energy left for making babies.

There's little definite knowledge about neanderthal intelligence in relation to modern humans (they had higher brain volume but lower bloodflow to brains possibly suggesting lower neuron density, neanderthal tools weren't as advanced as those of modern humans but I've read criticism according to which the compared objects might not have come from the same time period etc) but just because we value intelligence and rightly so, it doesn't mean the populations and genes were favored by natural selection when neanderthals and modern humans encountered each other.

>>383295124
>hawkings double
is clive projecting his ego onto hawkings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWrE0j_EqD4

>>383286954
>Gamers deserve prefection

None of the most classic games were perfect in any way. Even the first Quake was a few months old rushjob because they couldn't make the RPG work so they made an FPS from remaining resources.
Almost all games look nothing like initial concepts because of polishing the turd forever for a chance to sell any copies they go ahead with a better idea and hack it away well enough to work.

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>in development for 23 years
>3D engine can't handle rotations
Every time he "turns" in the Steam video, the view just scrolls sideways.

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>>383295197
>neanderthal women found cro-magnon men more attractive and mated with them
>neanderthals were cucked so hard they went extinct

That's beautiful.

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>>383293381
>how would them fourchanners learn about our sekrit klub???
>meanwhile let's crosspost as usual there and make raid like threads whenever we feel like
>nice cRPG thread you got there but let me derail it by calling that game a blobber trash or meanwhile posting my waifu from my favorite Infinity Engine game that I played when I was a kid

is Grimoire actually finished
what was he doing with his life?

>>383295912
There's nothing more cancerous in the RPG community than IE fanboys.

Yeah they were ok games, but each and every one of them was massively flawed in their own way. The only one that even somewhat stands the test of time without nostalgia is BG2. And worse yet, most IE fandrones have no idea about older games like Darklands or even the Gold Box games.

>>383292773
https://mega.nz/fm/cGQAXbjR

>>383296064
No and fapping to gay porn

>>383296173
We caught one of them!

>>383294495
>aka passing off the remains of a Wizardry spinoff as his own work.
FFS this has gone on for how many threads now? The man is insane but there is literally 0 proof of him stealing any Wizardry code. He literally made many game on the C64 so I don't see how he is incapable of making his own game.

>>383295712
>sape can't handle a true classical experience

just stop. this stuff is waaaay out of your league, little boy.

>>383296173
IE games aged pretty good compared to them.

>>383296280
Nah, I'm not a Codex faggot.

Those assholes are IE-loving Fallout-worshiping grognard throwbacks and their underage bandwagoners.

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>>383294229
>>383289808

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I made it past the bandits guys,now how do I revive the Lars the only aeorb in the party?

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>>383296286
Yeah, but it's funny to accuse him of it.

>>383295791
I didn't say that was the case, just that it's one mechanism for (from our perspective) superior species to lose. In actuality it could have been a factor but neanderthal extinction cannot be explained by interbreeding alone.

>>383296592
I know, but I chose to ignore everything else in your post and adopt that snippet as official canon.

>people still buying into the Grimoirememe

Jesus Christ. There is no game, just a demo that was jury rigged from code Cleve stole when he left the Wizardry 8: Stones of Arnhem dev team.

>>383296907
>implying 99% of this thread won't pirate the game if it actually shows up

>>383297041
Don't worry, it won't.

>>383296907
Keep saying that and you're gonna get your assed sued, you dirty sape.

>>383295197
i was only joking but thank you for the intelligent reply

this aligns completely with what i remember from anthropology class about the subject. im well aware that selection doesn't always favor the best outcomes, but in any case it is what matters in the end because one species lives, the other goes extinct regardless of some quaint idea of how intelligent or good a species is

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>>383296907
This is libel you fucking sape

>>383297164
He's welcome to try. I'd likely win.

>>383297113
I know I will