https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z- JhQmoFWQ So uh, 8-bit v

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Obligatory.

>>383242704
>8-bit
Are you blind? Also Sonic Retro are speculating the same thing and Stealth came in and posted the quote from this video's description.

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I had a dream tonight where I was watching a pre-release gameplay video for Mania and it contained the Special Stages. They were in the style of Sonic CD but the goal was to take out Eggman who was in the center of the stage surrounded by bumpers and various ground and airborne badniks, the machine itself looked like a crab or something. The entire thing was sprite based too.

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>tfw over five more weeks left

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>>383242704
I just want a new sonic ova done in that style

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anon, FINISH THE MANIA SIDE. SOMEBODY DO IT. MAKE THE IMAGE COMPLETE.

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>>383244765
You'll get an animated opening and ending for Mania and that's it.

>>383244945
I don't think there's footage (at least direct feed) of the missing sections.

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>>383245104
>and that's it.
You never know, both the megadrive comics and mania have been well received so far. I could see them going full nostalgia fag especially if Forces under preforms

https://youtu.be/SYMenKEwpps

So did any of you get the 25th anniversary art book?

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>>383243883
it's GOING SLOWER

WE'RE GOING FUCKING BACK IN TIME I SWEAR, IT WAS 2 WEEKS 6 WEEKS AGO

MAKE IT GO FASTER REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

>>383246621
What is the chance of any information being released before releasse? Or is it going to be MIA until release, nada, zilch, this is all we get

>>383246621
>>383246713

didn't mean to reply to that, but while we're here

what art book? never heard of that one

>>383246713
The book's already out, m8:

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=36039&view=findpost&p=898167

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I remember a few weeks back I heard someone mention a scanline filter option for Mania. Was he bullshitting me, or is that in the game?

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>>383248018
That's old news, m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al0GFfRfq9w

>>383242704
The Michael Jackson "woo" is out of place

>>383248170
Ah, good shit.

>>383245371
Mega Drive is dead tho

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>>383248384
Fuck Archie for being so incompetent.

>>383246621
Where can I get it in the UK?

>>383249064
Order online.

>>383248170
Scanline filters never look the same. Better off finding a way to play on an old CRT.

>>383250283
Even as a whole Sonic 4 was inferior to almost every single 2D Platformer that had came before it. It's a shame they wasted the name on such a cashgrab

The only really great game Dimps ever made was Rush 1

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>>383250283

>>383251494
>The only really great game Dimps ever made was Rush 1
Advance 1 & 2 and even Rush Adventure are better than the original Rush.

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>>383251923

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Love that one stool on a moving platform high up in the air in Mirage Saloon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9RP2SV8HY

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>>383251939
I can't get into the Advance series. The Special Stage system is utterly retarded and honestly Advance 2 it's completely pointless to play as anybody but Sonic or Cream

Rush Adventure should've been better if it wasn't padded by shitty cutscenes and unnecessary, tacked on mechanics. In Rush you just hit Start and you're thrown right into the game. Rush Adventure you're forced to skip through a 15 minute cutscene

>>383246649

I know, July is going by, really slow

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>>383248384

Tyson Heese was at Anime Expo last week and when I asked him about the final issue of Mega Drive, he said that it was practically finished and that he and his editor were working on a way to get it published through Sega directly. So there's hope that it might still come out.

And he said that if that falls through, he'll just leak it

>>383252326

You should play Advance 3 then. Many characters in the game actually have a noose

>>383252326
But the actual game part of Rush Adventure is far superior to the original Rush, since it offers much better level design (more interesting gimmicks and better flow) and boss fights (they're not stop and go and have actual flow to them).

>>383252608

Sorry, *use

>CRT filter
>Entire soundtrack has 16-bit versions of each song
God, what other shit is this game hiding.

>>383252326
Don't play Sonic Advance 3. That other guy is tricking you into experiencing some truly shit tier level design and enemy placement.

>>383252608
>tfw Advance 3 was the one I played most as a kid
The partner gimmick was nice, but the level design could've used a lot of work

I feel like the Advance games just weren't really up to par with the Classic ones, so I usually only give Rush a pass because it tried something new without bogging it down with too many unnecessary elements. And holy fuck is it harder than I remember

>>383252549
My fucking nigga Tyson pulls through. Love that guy.
Boxer Hockey when ;_;

>>383252549
What a bro. It's cool we'll actually get to see the final part of Mega Drive at some point, some day.

>>383252776

Level design was fine. A few pits and spikes aren't a problem

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>>383252958
>Level design was fine
t. faggot who knows nothing about good level design

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>>383245423
https://youtu.be/bxvPG4xCyCA?t=290

>>383253070

t. casual

>>383253070
If it wasn't then neither would late game Advance 1 or 2 level design

Dimps has always been bad at level design

>>383253301
Really solid argument, champ.

>>383253305
Don't get me wrong, I have my nitpickings with Advance 2 too but it really shines in Advance 3 and not in a good way.

>>383253367

Y-you too

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>>383253472

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>>383252549
I wish he would leak the pages for each issue with no dialogue so people can crop better images

>>383253541

Anon I....

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>>383253785
y-yes...?

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Anyone actually really like Sonic & Knuckles solo? It feels like a much more solid game than Sonic 3 solo. I feel like Sonic & Knuckles added a lot more to 3&K than Sonic 3 did

>>383254313
I haven't played Sonic and Knuckles solo in years but yeah it added a lot. Sonic 3 Complete is the best version of S3&K.

>>383254426
I'm too lazy to look it up, what changes did Sonic 3 complete make?

>>383254512
Combine Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles in such a way that the lock on tech never happened and it was one game from the start. You can change Flying Battery to play after Carnival Night like how it was in a prototype, change the music to Sonic 3 style all the way through, change the music for CN, IC and LB to the Sonic & Knuckles Collection tracks, fixes a bunch of bugs and just cleans everything up. It's the best thing we got next to a Taxman remake.

>>383248170
Those are good scanlines too!
Not just that shitty version that's just slightly darker alternating lines. This actually renders each RGB pixel.

>>383252128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EsJd9iLZSE

>>383252756
>>Entire soundtrack has 16-bit versions of each song
That's wrong.

>>383254313
Yeah I like S&K solo a lot. S3 is kind of barebones by itself really and my favoruite part of S3&K is undoubtedly the S&K portion.

>>383254765
All it needs to be is 16:9 and it would be literally perfect

>>383255445
Let me dream, Satan.

>>383252128
>Hyper Potions
I assumed it was Anamanaguchi, a lot of these chip tune bands sound the same

>>383254313
s&k is far more awkward as solo than s3 imo
also s3 has better ost

>>383255343
Can't listen to this without thinking of Grand Dad Mania

>>383256052
Anamanaguchi's always been mostly chiptune rock or just more fast paced chiptune. Cause it is basically just rock music with sound manipulation straight from old consoles.

>>383256097
S&K mini boss > S3 mini boss
S&K invincibility > S3 invincibility
S&K 1-up jingle > S3 1-up jingle
S&K Knuckles' theme > S3 Knuckles' theme

>>383248170
Who the hell cares about fucking scanlines anyway? They must have some serious autism to give a shit about crt scanlines!

>>383255013
Did you expect anything less of a team filled with Mega Drive-era autists

>>383256504
>Who the hell cares
Some clearly do.

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Can't do this in Forces, Generations or 4.

>>383257480
Deliciously smooth rolling

>>383257480
TELL ME ABOUT THE WINDMILL

WHY IS THERE A WINDMILL

>>383257951
It's a love hotel

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Who /preordered/ here?

>>383258671
Day you could. It's been a long, and continuing to be long, wait.
Like, all I care about right now is this game coming out.

>>383258818
>Like, all I care about right now is this game coming out.
Basically this, the wait is agonizing and I can't stop thinking about it every day.

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>>383258671
>we are never getting the other taxman ports

>>383259106
I still believe we'll get the 1 & 2 remakes on consoles and PC, what you should be sad about is that we'll most likely never get the 3 remake.

>>383259106
I bet if Mania sells well Sega will release the S1/S2 remakes on Steam/consoles

>Green Hill
>Chemical Plant
>Stardust Speedway
>Flying Battery

Hopefully the 3 stage is Hydrocity. Ice Cap has some good music but it's kinda boring. Plus it takes care of the obligatory water level.

/ourguy/ has gone such a long way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJa-4tMqVNc

>>383260285
I want Hydrocity pretty bad.
Half because I bet they could do something super cool for the 2nd act and half because I wanna see Tee Lopes make a crazy remix of Act 2's music.

I hope I make it to August 15th.

>>383254313
Absolutely. I thought I was alone on this. I think the levels on S&K were cooler on average.

>>383254313
I like Sonic 3 more than S&K especially on music though the latter half of S&K is probably the best part of the lot, though I don't like S&K's first half nearly as much as 3's

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>UNBE-FUCKING-LIEVABLE: THERE'S A HUUUUGE AIRSHIP!
>AND IT'S BOMBING ME?! OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK
>IS THIS THE POWER OF BLAST PROCESSING?! IT MUST BE, 'CAUSE I'M HAVIN' A BLAST!
>WHOA... SONIC'S GOING SO FAST, HE JUST BURSTED INTO FLAMES! THAT'S AMAZING!!!
>AND THERE'S TAILS! DROP-IN, DROP-OUT 2-PLAYER COUCH CO-OP MULTIPLAYER HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER NOW THAT HE CAN FLY!!!
>THAT BURNING BACKGROUND LITERALLY IS A GREAT PAINTING. IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GOD DAMNED THING I'VE EVER FUCKING WELL LAID EYES UPON, SO HELP ME, GOD.
>ONLY 4:23 INTO ACT 2, AND MARIO HASN'T EVEN MADE IT PAST HIS OWN TITLE SCREEN YET. LMFAO!!! BITCH, STEP IT UP, WHAT A FAT DISGRACE
>ALREADY HAVE 41,310 POINTS, 326 RINGS. 30 LIVES. THAT'S MORE THAN NINTENDONT'S WHOLE FUCKING COMPANY WILL EVER GET

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>>383260824
>barely legible text written in children's crayon, so randum colors in no particular order
>old wood scattered around the periphery, why did nobody clean this junk up?
>1990, 1991... which is it? game doesn't know or care when it was made, must not be very good
>gloomy atmosphere as if it's going to rain (how depressing, I don't want to play this)
>annoying bushes all over the otherwise featureless flat field filled with nothingness. yay.
>Mario's not even there, probably got bored and left, now you have to be the turtle instead
>your only ability is walking forward in one direction, and that happens automatically and there's no way to stop doing it

>Mario Games

>>383259221
>we will never get S3&K in 16:9 with the improvements of the other ports
God please just kill me, life is not worth living

>>383260285
>>383260415
It's gonna be Labyrinth, lads:

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=35709&view=findpost&p=895639

http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Secrets:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(16-bit)#In-game_vs._technical_level_order

https://twitter.com/teelopesmusic/status/850072943791144964

But on the bright side we're likely to get a Sonic 3 multiplayer stage to represent that game, since that was one of the things they wanted to do for the Sonic 3 & Knuckles remake.

>>383261621
Chrome Gadget or riot

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>>383261621
Daily reminder that it'll be Labyrinth zone but act 2 of it will turn into Hydrocity. you know this is the truth, search your hearts.

>>383261732
That sounds totally perfect. I'll expect that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKGDC4JaMU

Really informative video which basically destroys any doubt of the 'sonic cycle'

>>383261732
>but act 2 of it will turn into Hydrocity
In level design only, the aesthetic and music will still be Labyrinth, which is why I would be half okay with this.

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>>383242704
I never would have thought that in the year of our lord 2017 a fucking Sonic game would be the only game that has me hyped for its release.

>people thinking this proves there will be 16 bit remixes in-game
>when the song clearly uses some of those MJ sounds that are half the reason Sonic 3 will never get a taxman remake

yeah okay

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>>383261852
That chuckle fuck completely under sold Pagoda West.

>>383262132
Not to mention that both Tee Lopes and Stealth said that this was done just for fun.

>>383252128

Something about this song gives me hope.

>>383258671
I preordered the special edition as soon as I could

>>383262132
MJ IS TO BLAIM FOR THIS


MJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI97jY3FZ9Q

When Crush 40 are not in town and you get your old school band mates to do the sonic theme lyrics

>>383262681
His estate too.

>>383262965
Not great. Reminds me of a light novel anime adaption opening.

So is this game getting a standard edition physical release? Not a fan of digital

>>383263214
The collector's edition is the closest you'll get to a physical release as of now.

>>383245104
Or there are animated cutscenes.

>>383263626
Nope, see: >>383242774

>>383262965
It honestly sounds like a fan cover. The instrumental is way better.

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So have you guys brushed up your _____Puyo Puyo_____ skills?

>>383264227
I love me some puyo puyo. I have no worries.

>>383264408
I've been playing Puyo Pop Fever DS to try and learn the game more, can't build high combos consistently for shit.

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Only recently have it got what classic sonic is, it never really clicked with me before but once you get how speed allows exploration and that you don't need to rush to the end the whole game changes

The amount of little stuff in these games it is no wonder people get so autistic over the details

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>playin muh mEAn bEAn with some friends
>suddenly, 4 thugs storm friend's bedroom
>literally start attacking friends
mfw

>>383264227

No but I've got Puyo Puyo Tetris on my shelf so I'll be fine

>>383252326
Sonic Advance 1 is awesome. Advance 2 is a shitshow.

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>>383264797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t9HvMXU2wo

playing in the background as your friends get there shit kicked in

>>383265190
TThis music... is a little too good for a game about falling beans? Isn't this a little bit too intense? This is some final boss music shit

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>>383264227
>tfw can't do anything but 4chain long stairs

>>383254313
No, I feel the other way around. Marble Garden is my favorite Sonic zone, and the only zones that don't feel like a chore to me in S&K are Mushroom Hill and Sky Sanctuary.

>>383265345
That's some one-on-one in the same room sitting right next to you human opponent shit. Let the battle of wits begin.

>>383258671
Sonic CD sucks.
Poor visuals.
Poor music.
Poor gameplay.
I would wish it out of existence, if it didn't give us the blessing that is Amy.
Metal Sonic is overrated. Pure edge. Edgier than Shadow, but people give him a pass because he's a robot.

>>383265526
>poor music

This really makes me ponder

>>383261621
>since that was one of the things they wanted to do for the Sonic 3 & Knuckles remake
I need a source of this. Great if it's true.

>>383265345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNulXX68LPQ

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>>383265414
My man, S3 is way better. It's levels are richer, faster, more fluid.

Marble Garden is a respectable choice as well.

>>383265614
You really should ponder your taste, if you think CD's music is good.

>>383265526
>Poor music.
Gr8 b8, must be str8 f8 I didn't w8 or hesit8 to r8 an 8.8, no h8 or deb8. Now that I 8 with N8 by the g8 on a cr8 can't be l8 for my d8 with K8, it would cre8 an ir8 st8. Cya m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzH2-Gkikzc

>>383265834
>Someone who writes something like that has shit taste.
Not surprising. Just disappointed.

>>383259106
>we are never getting the other taxman ports
Taxman mentioned in a recent interview that the original plan for Mania was a small, modest game full of original content bundled together with his remasters of Sonic 1 and 2.

There's always a chance that could have carried over into the final product and they've decided to leave it as a secret until release. An incredibly small chance, but still. At least it confirms that we'll be seeing them on other platforms eventually.

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>>383265834
>cya m8

>>383265996
not him but don't get ir8 you get blown the fuck out of existence

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If you could put any sonic reference (including weird shit the fans have done) into mania what would it be?

>>383266269
Chris Chan playable character

any other answer is incorrect

>>383266072
>Anon delivers what is likely a copypasta of an old dead 8 meme.
>Drops a single youtube video.
>This counts as good comedy, and BTFO material.
CD fags really are little brains, aren't they? What am I saying? It's really just classicfags who are so simple minded. CDfags are just the worst examples of classicfags.

>>383266359
Stick that shit in Forces.

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>>383266072
>blown the fuck out of existence
All that anon did was post like a teenager and link a music track. Not even the same anon you're replying to, but come on.

>>383242704
>16bit remix

So whats the original sound like?

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>>383266359
>Not asperchu
If you are putting in anything sonichu it should be to annoy chris

>>383266381
Why do you hate CD with such a song hatred anon? Did something happen to you while you were playing it in the background and give you some kind of vietnam flashback whenever it is mentioned?

>>383266359
>OMG CHRIS CHAN IS SO RANDUM AND FUNNEH XD
No.

>>383266269
I just want good characters to get a nod. Like Marine or Sticks. It's like Sonic Team does everything in the power to forget good characters. But they'll continue pushing Cream until the day Sega dies.

>>383266598
Go watch a gameplay video of the stage.

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>>383266598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio

>>383265626
https://www.sonicretro.org/2015/02/regarding-sonic-3-guest-post-by-stealth/

The site's dead so here's an archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20161009040559/http://sonic3remastered.com:80/sonic-3-remastered-features.html

>>383266647
A Blaze cameo would be cool. She's one of the only new characters that feels like she has a place.

>>383265526
I just replayed it on PS3 and it's still fucking awesome.

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>>383266269
These guys.

>>383266621
Simply got sick of CD fags acting like their opinions aren't shit.
>Shadow is too edgy, but Metal Sonic is dah bess village evah!
>They ruined Amy in Adventure, Classic amy is da cootest!
>CD is the best classic Sonic.
The game is actually pretty bad. Most of the talent went to work on Sonic 2.

A brand new Knuckles rap, written by Eminem and the ghost of 2pac.

Vulgar, and racist, and gangster style.

>>383267000
I wonder if Madonna will make a cameo somewhere

>>383266598
https://youtu.be/uB9RP2SV8HY?t=2m47s

What if I told you these 3 things:

>Amy and Metal Sonic are secret characters
>the Special Stages are Blue Spheres but slightly easier
>There's a NiGHTS stage and many more SEGA references (even a Puyo Puyo one)

Would you believe me?

>>383267061
>shadowfag

and it all made sense in one sentence.As you were, anon.

cd is nowhere near the best sonic game though

>>383267064
Why did they give Knuckles a hip-hop soundtrack, but gave him a regular white guy voice? Not even a cool white guy.

>>383267283
The 2nd point was debunked cause they said that the special stage is something we haven't seen before.

>>383267283
Amy will 100% be playable, metal sonic, makes me hmmm

special stages w/e

nights I doubt, but maybe, just MAYBE.

>>383267283
>Would you believe me?
No because we already know what's going on with Blue Spheres: >>383242774

>>383267061
>but Metal Sonic is dah bess village evah!
he is though

>>383267314
Yeah, because comparing one character to another makes me a superfan of the character that opposes your opinion. That's how it all works.
Nothing to do with objectivity.

>>383266269
Integrate some of the OVA.

Make Sonic and Tails end the game on their crashed plane island home, have Knuckles ending putting the hat over his head laying back against a tree for a nap, stuff like that.

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>>383267061
>Adventurecucks
wew lad

>>383267538
I sense that you like the adventure games, anon?

I'm so sorry.

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>>383266769
I want to play this level so bad. I hope Mania have some of them since we aren't getting the remakes anytime soon.

>>383267760
Sonic 3s sprite is fucking horrific, holy fuck

>>383267283
Blue sphere would be perfect with a greater view of the horizon. Though I suppose they would need to increase the area of the field in order to pull that off. I'm not sure exactly how they generate blue sphere levels anyway. I'm pretty sure the field isn't an accurate globe. But just give the impression that you're walking on one using a visual trick.

>>383267323
>Knuckles
First time you meet him, he mugs you for your bling, laughs at you, calls you a bitch and runs away.

He's a dumb brutish savage who lives in the jungle.

He's got filthy dreadlocks.

He raps.

He wears a Nike jersey.

So in conclusion to answer your question I don't know.

>>383267760
I'd much prefer Chrome Gadget or Azure Lake, but Balloon Park would be cool too.

>>383267635
>>383267739
Yes, because comparing one game to another makes me a superfan of the game that opposes your opinion. that's how it all works.
God, CDfags really are the dumbest of the dumb.

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>>383267829
It's fine.

>>383267283
I recently replayed the sphere minigame in sonic 3 and it is honestly the hardest shit ever unless you know exactly where the fuck you're going

it is the definition of casual filter

>>383267943
>He raps.
No he doesn't. Clearly a black man raps the songs. Knuckles is white, if his voice is anything to go by.

Also, that's not a Nike logo on his chest. It's an unsnatchable chain.

>>383267829
I agree, even though I strangely preferred it as a kid. It's a good thing you can play Sonic 3 Complete with the S1/S2 sprites.

>>383268029
Sonic's standing sprite in mania is awful too. I can't believe people defend it. They really should have redrawn it from the ground up.

The new Knuckles sprite looks amazing for example. Why couldn't Sonic have gotten the same treatment? Though they did draw Knuckle's pupils too small. His expression looks berserk.

>>383267987
>CDfags
But my favorite game is Sonic 3 & Knuckles. And don't fucking deny being an Adventurecuck after multiple posts shitting on classicbros for no reason, you're not fooling anyone.

>>383266269

I'd go for some really fucking obscure shit but considering Studiopolis already has references to the fucking popcorn machine of all things they're pretty set on that department so I dunno. I'd probably shoehorn in Honey from the fighting game as a background cameo somewhere.

>>383268185
Did someone make a patch or something? Sounds cool. Just another excuse to play through the whole thing again.

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>>383268393

>>383268424
They should reference the Sonic police car and Sonic space patrol kiddy rides.

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>>383268516

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>>383266269
>>383268424
Oh it has a lot more than that.

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>>383268625

>>383268394
Shitting on classicfags, is not the same as shitting on the classic games. Your love for the classic games, has no bearing on the games themselves. It only makes you look like a fag, when you say shit like CD is a good game. Anyone who isn't a fag realizes this isn't the case. You only think CD is a good game, because it's among the "classics".

I shit on classicfags in this case, because that's what's pertinent to the conversation regarding CD. Not to try an assert some Adventure superiority. Don't be a tribalistic retard.

>>383268516
Yes! The one on the left is SO much better. Love it.

>>383267283

I could believe it but I doubt any of it's true besides maybe the Amy thing.

I hope you aren't bullshitting because I'm a huge Nightsfag and I'd absolutely gift out a few more copies solely because that fucker's in it if true.

>>383268857
>You only think CD is a good game, because it's among the "classics".
No? I think it's a good game because it is, replayed the Taxman remake twice earlier this week even.

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What are the chances you think that Super Sonic (if in the game) will control like in Sonic 3C with the multi-button option, and the ability to deactivate?

So I'm late and all, but could you guys help me to find who is drawing/animating those Sonic gif you posted here ?

This really is some good stuff.

>>383268458

>he doesn't know about Sonic 3 Complete

I didn't use the S1/2 sprites since I feel like it'd be really fucking jarring but if I ever get around to downloading it again I'll probably try it

>>383269013
You're blind to your faggotry.

>>383269017
I have a good feeling that it would be like that with all of the focus on the Drop Dash and all.

>>383268691

I know but that's just the most obscure thing that instantly came to mind.

>>383268562

I'd love that too, yeah.

>>383269017
I'd say decent.

I'm worried about Tails and Knuckles getting super forms.

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>>383253973
I..I thought you were a GEP gun.

>>383269117

If you're talking about the stuff from the trailers then it's Tyson Heese

>>383269127
It is pretty jarring, but i'm a purist for S3&K, to the point that I play it in the original level order, and just appreciate it for the improvements and glitch fixes.

>>383269117
Tyson Hesse. The guy behind Boxer Hocker and those Sonic parody comics with Nipples the Enchilada, plus Sonic Mega Drive.

>>383268516
That left sonic is too skinny, looks awful

>>383269117
Tyson Hesse mainly, with some help from a couple of other animators one of which is Mariel "Kinuko" Cartwright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg

>>383269332
>>383269354
Yes, thanks a lot.

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>>383254313
Aren't they the same game split in two? Why play either solo?

>>383267829
I prefer them, actually. Sonic's head is too perfectly spherical and bulbous in the other sprites.

>>383269136
Sorry you hate good games, Adventurecuck.

>>383269541
Even though they were both suppose to be one game, there's a big difference in atmosphere compared to Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles.

>>383264686
Is this official!?

>>383269680
No.

>>383268029
Sonic 3 is objectively the best there ever was:
>confident grin
>eyes dead ahead
>spikes taper in conformation with the shape of his body
>arms relaxed but at the ready
>feet position optimized for maximum balance

Sonic 1, 2, CD, et all:
>flippyflappy coneshaped "shoes"
>feet in awkward southpaw position as he attempts to stand up tall to look more intimidating because he's really insecure
>noodely arms flexed tight as possible still don't look tough
>spines coming out his asscrack the same size or bigger than the ones on top of his head
>blank expression
>lazyeyed stare in which two pupils become one

>>383268424

How about that 90s Japanese Sonic UFO catcher game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyg-dvTFKxs

>>383244765

I just want SEGA to acknowledge that the OVA even exists. Soundtrack release never. BD never. Maybe if a petition is made they 'll finally notice.

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>>383242704
>8-bit
>We live in a time when kids don't know the difference between 8 and 16 bit

>>383269756
Shame...
Good sprite anyway.

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>>383269905

Starlight Zone is a pretty good choice for crane game music.

>>383270084
Or how to read for that matter.

>>383269127
Playing Knuckles in Sonic 2 is already pretty jarring. Tails' sprites for the most part seem to be the most consistent out of the three

It wouldn't be too jarring. Nothing relevant in-game would make Sonic feel out of place. Except maybe those pillars in Hydrocity

>>383269541
I prefer the levels in Sonic & Knuckles and it feels more like a complete game by itself than Sonic 3

I like the subtle feeling of progression between the two where the Sonic 3 half is full of water due to the island sinking, but the higher you travel the less water there is

>>383269905
these fucking things are so rigged

>>383269604
I'm not an adventure cuck. But since that matter came up. I will say Adventure had some good ideas, that I feel is a shame that Sega Team gave up on. Instead of improving and polishing the good ideas, they outright dropped them. Fact is, Sonic Team is an incompetent developer when it comes to game design. The majority of Adventure's flaws comes from unrefined physics, and unrefined mechanics.

The problem was never the fact that it had too many characters. That's the test of the moron. Anyone who complains about the amount of character in Sonic, is a moron. The problem with the game, is that every bit of it was like the alpha build of a good game. None of it felt complete.

Like take grinding for example. Detection is finicky, you can't reliably switch rails without fear that Sonic will simply clip through them and plummet. It's a mess. So what did Sonic Team do for future games? Did they refine the rails? No. They just casualized it to the point where rails might as well not be in the game. No when you switch, your character does a big retarded arch, and magnetizes to the rail. The arching jump takes so long to perform, that any obstacles placed along the track, must account for the jump time. So they hardly put any obstacles on rail tracks anymore. And they don't let you jump off the sides of rails anymore.
Rails are more or less cinematic spectacles.

Point being: Adventure games are good in concept. Even if their execution was poorly done by an incompetent developer. If you didn't like Adventure at one point, then you're probably only 16 years old and never played them when they were new. Or you simply don't appreciate what they were going for. Because that would actually require an open mind. Something classicfags lack. Classicfags only want what they're already familiar with.

>>383270785
>Point being: CD is good in concept. Even if their execution was poorly done by an incompetent developer. If you didn't like CD at one point, then you're probably only 16 years old and never played it when it was new. Or you simply don't appreciate what it was going for. Because that would actually require an open mind. Something fags lack.
Really activates those almonds.

>>383262134
>Pagoda West is ex-S2HD members
Well this team makes more sense to me now. No wonder literally every aspect of it is so amazing, they actually don't need Sega or Sonic Team for any single aspect of it, and they probably aren't getting "help" from them at all.

>>383271395
Except CD is based on a solid foundation of classic Sonic mechanics. Yet, their level designs sucked ass, their visual designs sucked ass. Their music was lacking. And the time gimmick was more of a bother than it was fun.
What little CD brought to the table, was the shitty time gimmick. While everything else that was already established, like levels/visuals/sound, they fumbled on.

>>383271626
>and they probably aren't getting "help" from them at all.
Besides Izuka giving the okay for things that seems to be the case. Stealth revealed some more team members lower in this image too: >>383242774

>>383260824
>>383261145
ebic

>>383271626
All the have is Iizuka watching over them. God, I remember that old drama over the first public demo of S2HD having a keylogger in it pretty much destroying the project there and then.
And it's super lucky as well because the reason why Tee Lopes is doing the music is because he's part of PagodaWest.

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>>383271736
>Yet, their level designs sucked ass, their visual designs sucked ass
Sonic Adventure was just described

>And the time gimmick was more of a bother than it was fun
You don't even need to bother with it, it's an optional way to get the good ending

>>383271872
>Sonic Adventure was just described
Adventure had good levels for the most part. There were a few stinkers, sure. And let's not even talk about Big the Cat.

>You don't even need to bother with it, it's an optional way to get the good ending
So don't bother with the only interesting concept CD introduced? Gotcha. There's literally no reason to play the game then. The other classic games did everything else better.

>>383242704
This is smooth as fuck.

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>>383271872
>You don't even need to bother with it, it's an optional way to get the good ending
Not him but that's one of the most fun ways to play CD because of how much it focuses on exploration. And I like that that because I'm not a close minded faggot like him, so I don't mind playing a Sonic game a bit differently. Honestly kind of ironic.

>>383272180
That's a pretty succinct image, anon.
Mind if I download it?

>>383272180
Oh I agree, I'm just saying that if the Time Travel gimmick bothers someone, they have another way to get to the good end

>>383272330
No, it's mine and my alone.

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>>383272379
Fuck you I'm stealing it then

>>383272180
I'm not closed off to exploration in a Sonic game. It's just that the way CD handled it, was pretty poor.
Also, Sonic 2 is not exceptionally speedy compared to the other games. Neither is Sonic 1 exceptionally more platform oriented. This would be a nice chart if it were accurate. But it simply isn't.

Of course someone is going to argue it is accurate, because the uniformity satiates their autistic need to fit things into neat groups.

>>383242704
That version sounds sweet. Some parts of it remind me a bit of SoR as well.

>>383272658
>Nope.

Ah, I see. Of course. I felt the chart was accurate, but I should have realized...

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>>383272180
somebody put in sonic mania on this

NOW!

>>383269947
You wanna know why they don't?
Rights shenanigans.

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>>383252128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBX1UkWmus
>tfw "SEGA PROUDLY PRESENTS"

>tfw i have to wait a year atleast for a decent job to afford mania.
Fuck me guys, and it's only 22$
life is looking up but damn i wish i was still living under my parent's wings

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>>383272580
Don't you fucking DARE. It's MY image and I'm only SHARING it with you.

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>>383266269

>>383245423
>Cybershell

I guess he isn't dead afterall.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSdCTS4QTNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UGIIIp9WE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG6z9E6_LA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDFaRMmWbKo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyXg9kAp4Vc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKh-5msybk&index=16&list=PL0B59A49725C84F57

>when you're somehow more excited for the soundtrack then the game itself

Tee you beautiful FUCK

>>383273249
I was lucky I had 20 extra bucks in my Steam wallet thanks to a birthday Steam gift card I got months ago for a birthday gift.

>>383272908
Wait till we're able to rip the sprites from it.

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>yfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j0q2DbXgAc
Crash and Sonic are both back, and a new mario is on the way, it's a mighty great time for platformers.

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If we don't get an Icecap zone, I hope we still get a snow/ice themed level. I love me some chill levels, Snowcap Zone was my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxlqTpZ-24

And I'm probably alone here, but I really liked Hilltop Zone too, I guess its the 'on a mountaintop' location with the pine trees and such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnBlHfc4Lh0

>>383273438
I can't wait to hear the Act 2 track.

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>>383273438

>>383273326
Sonic Mania literally brought him back from the dead.

>>383266269
>Metal sonic theme is Stardust Speedway bad future
>Second phase
>Go into an abandoned, run down sector outside of the main city
>Remix of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTT2YYcPEmk
Yes please

>>383273438
I'm really hyped for the possibility of Vicarious making an original Crash game.

>>383271841
>>383271857
It really is the absolute perfect team for the game. You've got the best coder and engine developer in the Sonic fangame community with Taxman, the best level designer in the Sonic fangame community with Stealth, and some of the best artists in the Sonic fangame community with Pagoda West. I don't think anyone could make a more faithful classic Sonic game in the world. Well, I don't personally feel like Tee Lopes' soundtrack is very faithful to the originals, but it does sound like if the Sonic soundtrack stayed modern going down the same path rather than going down Buttrock Avenue.

>>383272658
>Sonic 2 is not exceptionally speedy compared to the other games.
>what's Emerald Hill, Chemical Plant, Aquatic Ruin and Hill Top???
>Neither is Sonic 1 exceptionally more platform oriented.
>what's Marble, Spring Yard, Labyrinth???
Try actually playing the games, my man. Those aren't even the only examples of general level design philosophies for those games.

>>383273438
mario is the only one that doesn't look good to me.

It's like we're in a bizarro world

>>383273872
>What are these cherry picked zones, compared to these other cherry picked zones.
Stop.

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>>383273438

>>383245423
>all of those advancefags in the comments being mad at him calling Dimps shit

Glorious.

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>>383274001
>Cherry-picked
>Literally half of Sonic 1 was listed

Also Sonic 2 is eons faster than 1 or CD because the level design was streamlined to be more about getting to the end as fast as possible

>>383274120
The comments have so many fucking Episode 4 apologists.

>>383274120
The Advance series wasn't bad but boy was it inconsistent. None of the 3 feel like a very strong entry overall, the closest being maybe Advance 2, but the typical Dimps problems shine throughout all of them making them feel more like noteworthy spin-offs rather than great main series titles.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s55a7BVVbY

3:08

DAILY REMINDER That the bad ending of Sonic 2 on the game gear, Tails fucking dies. Never forget.

>>383274109
mario is better

>>383268035

It's a lot easier if you don't go for the perfect

>>383274231
I'm not getting into a level-by-level debate with you. You're entitled to your opinion. I just disagree.

>>383274421
I'd not forget if I could ever get past the first fucking boss

>>383273651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLxoqs1Is0

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>>383273438
>Sonic Mania
>Metroid Samus Returns
>Super Mario Odyssey
>King Knight's campaign
>Freedom Planet 2
>Bloodstained
>Indivisible
God damn is it a good time to be a platformer fan.

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>>383274421
What the fuck is this

>>383274317
I liked Advance 1 the most

>>383274421
I'm confused. At what point did Tails die? I never played that game. So the ending sequence doesn't really explain what happened.

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>>383274638
this is fantastic

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>>383273438
Been playing Crash for the first time, wrapping up 100% in Crash 1, getting real DKC vibes from it actually, dunno why people always poise it against Mario aside from releasing close together in early 3D times.

Between Mania, Crash, Mario, more Shovel Knight DLC, and a couple of other platformers, this year has been incredible.

>>383273860
It is suppose to be a hypothetical Sega Saturn 2D Sonic game, so I think the music is fine.

>>383274317
I think Advance 1 is the closest to being like the Classics. The other two take liberties with it.

>>383274638
That was embarrassing.

>>383274818
Tails got captured and basically he's Robotnik's captive. If you beat him and destroy his base while not having all the Chaos Emeralds, Tails perishes. If you have all the emeralds you save him before he dies.

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>>383274269
It's fucking disgusting to be honest with you.

>>383274975
>dunno why people always poise it against Mario aside from releasing close together in early 3D times.
because the advertising usually had Crash insulting Mario or standing outside of "nintendo HQ" with a megaphone calling out the "plumber boy".

Crash used the sonic model of advertising which was to shit on Mario

>>383274638
This was okay

>>383275221
So Sonic and Crash were both betrayed by their own marketing.

>>383274753
2017 is such a good year for games

>>383273249
>shit happened
>medical bills
>pc doesn't work and can't waste money fixing
>don't have new consoles
>few days ago, car needs to be repaired

Last few months have been great

>>383274818
Miss an emerald, can't get the 6th emerald from Silver Sonic to reach the true last level. Never save Tails. That ending happens

>>383274638
That existed

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Sticks is cute. CUTE!

>>383275628
She's also an annoying cunt with one overtold joke. Thank god she's stuck in Boom.

>>383275410
not really. They were betrayed by failure to jump generations.

Sonic never entirely got how to transition the classic formula to 3D. It's the same thing that killed Mega Man slowly and painfully. (and Castlevania for that matter)

Crash had to suffer a jump to the next generation of consoles, with high expectations, but without it's original dev team that perfected his formula over 3 games there to expand the game properly

>>383273249

Post your steam you dumb baby

>>383273501

I like Hilltop it's the last good level in sonic 2 before it goes from a cool game to a shitty one.

I think, can't remember if it came before or after Mystic Cave. If before then the second last.

>>383276134
Hill Top is before Mystic Cave.
Mystic Cave is the final really good level before the boring Oil Ocean and the fucking terrible Metropolis.

>>383265526

Anon, the Sonic CD port defaults on the American soundtrack, you need to change it manually.

I know, it's a hassle but trust me you'll change your opinion soon enough.

>>383245423
too much REEEEE 4 me

>>383276278

Yeah okay then second last good level.

Seriously though why does that game just fall off a fucking cliff after a certain point quality wise?

>>383276278
And then Sky Chase is boring, I always cheat by going through the fan on Wing Fortress

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>>383242704
>8 bit
>literally says 16 bit in the title
>even that isn't quite true since while the genesis was 16 bit, it's more accurate to call it an FM synth as that's what it was going for
I wish nothing but painful, painful death upon everyone who calls fucking everything that uses pixel art or any form of SNES/NES/GEN/etc soundfont or chiptune "8-bit".

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>>383276134
>>383276278
Oil Ocean confuses me. It makes sense to have a hard factory level near the end of the game, even if Metropolis takes it a step too far

But for what purpose does Oil Ocean serve? It's like it exists to be a time sink

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>>383275628
Tyson's take.

>>383276648
And Death Egg is a no-hit boss rush hassle.

>>383276602
I remember hearing Sonic 2 had sort of a rushed development of a sort. The game had a bunch more levels planned and the story was supposed to involve time travel like CD

Metropolis screams last minute clusterfuck

>>383276862
s'okay

>>383276985

I guess but I see tons of rushed games that are just shitty throughout. It's not usually that blatant where time ran out.

>>383276679
It does feel like padding doesn't it

I'm a 4fag, how does Sonic 4 play into the classic series plot-wise? It was confirmed to take place after 3&K, and it most directly connects with CD with the Death Egg mkII being built around Little Planet. How will Mania play into this? What do you guys think?

>>383277459
Sonic 4 isn't a part of the classic games so it won't be mentioned.

>>383277459
It's non-canon. Mania ignores it as does Sega.

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>>383242704

Man I hope there's an option to toggle between the original and Genesis-style musics.

>>383270785
>The problem was never the fact that it had too many characters. That's the test of the moron
More characters = more dev time spent on those instead of improving the core while also having to balance the game for multiple characters.

This is why Adventure 2 is very linear instead cause they focused on one each but still had to make multiple.

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>>383277459
R E T C O N N E D

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>>383276881
>Beat Death Egg Robo
>he had dropped bombs
>Lose control of Knuckles
>He just runs right into the bombs and dies as I had no rings and lost control of him
i was so mad

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>>383277459
It doesn't.

>>383277708
>>383277772
I'm hoping for an actual reason why CD isn't in the elevator when Stardust Speedway is gonna be a level.

>>383274231
>the level design was streamlined to be more about getting to the end as fast as possible
That isn't good though. It meant that the top path was always the best so you don't think as much and you got less content for doing better at the game

>>383277126
That was back when game development was a lot easier to do, especially sequels. Most of the game was pretty much already made since Sonic 1 existed, they just added a few new bells and whistles to improve what was given to them. Usually I remember hearing that early game stages are some of the last ones to be developed because they require the most effort to make easy, but engaging

So they probably just made Metropolis and didn't put much thought into it

>>383277270
I often forget it exists unless I'm playing Sonic 2. It baffles me how Dimps thought it was a good idea to make a sand version for Sonic 4

>>383277708
>>383277772

Still very confused about this elavator

will it just be a trailer cutscene? will it be ingame and they keep going back and forth to this magical elevator whatever the FUCK it is

>>383277708
>>383277772
Is CD retconned too? Don't see it on that elevator strip.

Sad to see Sonic 4 treated like this though, it was far from being great but it wasn't awful by any means ):

>>383277870
Probably because it isn't a direct sequel and would fuck up the sequence 1-3.
Don't read too deep into it, most important thing is 4 isn't on there.

>>383278048
Metropolis feels like a complete "fuck you" to the player in almost every way. It goes on for far too long, every badnik is an asshole to deal with, the boss is crap, the gimmicks are annoying.

>>383278193
Stardust Speedway is in the Mania trailer, so no idea how it works.

>>383278193
>Sad to see Sonic 4 treated like this though
Nah, it's great because it's everything that putrid shit deserves.

>>383277459

Mania is the real Sonic 4.

We don't know where Sonic CD fits in the timeline, I think its between Sonic 1 and 2.

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>>383278193
>it wasn't awful by any means
Yes it was.

>):
>>>/r/eddit

>>383277870
CD takes place on Little Planet, which sorta just blinks in and out of existence every so often. Since CD sorta retcons itself with Sonic undoing eggman's shit, and LP is just a clusterfuck of time shenanigans, it's sort of its own thing. If they explain it in the story, they'll probably just have them leave the elevator and actually go find LP.

>>383277870
Maybe it just listed the Yuji Naka games since those were sort of a progressive improvement on the formula, while CD was more of an experimental sidestep?

>>383278005
It's better than actively padding out the game with very slow obstacles to avoid like Sonic 1

>>383278278
not him but

Metropolis is without a doubt

THE worst level in any Sonic game. Every part of that level is designed for you to get hit, make you fail, and just stop speed. It is fucking horrific and i have no idea how it got into the final game, atrocious level

>>383278329
Hoping to see some sort of reference to Sonic 4, even if it is just shitting on it, I want some acknowledgement at least.
>>383278398
Episode II was a lot better, I consider I and II to be part of one overall "Sonic 4" package.

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>>383278419
>It's better than actively padding out the game
Or you could just play 3

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>>383278527
The overall Sonic 4 package is inferior to any of the Classic games. It's a cash grab that shows Dimps really can't make games like the original Sonic Team was able to

But Advance should have been proof of that

>>383278527
>Episode II was a lot better
Still shit.

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>>383269541
Because it was released as two games and Sega continues to acknowledge it as such?

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>>383278630
S3&K/S3C is by far the definitive Sonic game, which goes back to what the original post was talking about

1's platforming + CD's exploration + 2's Speed = S3&K

>>383278527
>episode 2 was a lot better
2 x 1 is still 2.

>>383278775
Too bad S3&K had the worst Sonic sprite of the games. They made him fat and shitty.

>>383278802
>2 x 0 is still 0.
ftfy