Grimoire

>>382902869
>hoping others fail.

That's a poor mindset to have and will hurt yourself in the long run. Get help as soon as you can.

There's no market in pandering to morons. I wouldn't want to make that kind of money.

Grimoire is an elite game that is unlike anything else up on the Steam store. I defy you to find anything like it in the thousands of games listed. I defy you to find a game like it on the planet. It's not even a Wizardry clone really - it's everything Wizardry should have been but never was.

I'm not competing with Sir-Tech any more. Amongst other reasons, they went bankrupt 17 years ago.

I'm not competing with anybody. Grimoire is the pinnacle of the peak of the summit of the incline. I could probably get 99.95 from a lot of people but I don't want to limit it just to the very elect of RPG players. I made a compromise and and priced it somewhere just under current AAA titles. The truth is there is not an AAA title you could buy nowadays that deserves to crawl up on a high chair and plant a kiss in the crack of Grimoire's ass when it comes to enjoyment, immersion and wonderful escape.

I say all this with confidence because I have been playing my game 12 hours a day for two months and I can assure you there has never been anything like it in all of recorded human history. It's the greatest thing ever to emerge from that genre. The fact is, people who enjoy that genre are considering it cheap at that price. If you are not a connoisseur of the genre then why would I amend anything in it to appeal to you? It's like saying Mozart needed more cowbell.

Trust what I am saying. Those of you who played the demo and got the scent of greatness will know the full game has achieved it. For whatever it lacks it has much more in abundance.

I was just playing Kublai Cathedral to check all the logic and was almost weeping tears of joy at how wonderfully told the story of everything is in the game. I had forgotten a lot of it and it was like reading the work of someone else.

The game will suck you mentally into another dimension of win and excellence, no kidding. I warn unstable people against playing it at all. If it becomes that kind of obsession with the author - who should be long tired of it by now - you can imagine what elite fans RPGs will feel.

The game is special. I have supercharged it with awesomeness right down to the atomic level of every bit in the digital binary. $39.95 is very cheap once you have played the game for a short while.

>>382902997
Legend of Grimrock

it's probably better as well

What the hell is going on in this thread?

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>>382902997
Nice pasta. 10/10.

People are afraid of the game because it doesn't have anime butts and faggotry. Maybe you could do a hidden anime level later on as update.

>>382902997
>>382903115
Is this from the dev blog or something?

What is the point of having so many different attributes and skills? It really looks like that bogan nutcase thinks that quantity is better than quality.

>>382903337
It's from his posts on the RPG Codex forum.

>>382903491
You haven't played any vidya before, let's say 2010? You weren't probably even born yet.

>game gets called a masterpiece before release
When will fanboys learn?

>>382903491
95% of them are gonna be dump stats, you just know it.

>>382903337
Post he made on the RPG Codex. The guy is legit insane, if you want to get a "quick" summary watch this.

https://vimeo.com/224238019
Password: Thal

Even this is only scratching the surface.

>>382903596
Skyrim would be the best game ever by your logic then.

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>>382903583
>Going to Codex
>Posting on Codex
>Posting this much autism on Codex

Wait what, is it released?

>>382903770
2 days left

>>382903165
Grimrock 2 was a fucking enigma of good games.

>>382903742
>he says while posting on /v/

>>382903693
Retard, learn to read. You don't even know any other games than Skyrim. Have you ever played Wizardry 1? Dungeon Master? Ultima Underworld?

>>382903967

I've played Etrian Odyssey

>>382902997
>>382903115
Fuck why can't I preorder?

>Buy modern AAA Video game
>Lucky if you get 20 hours of gameplay
>Game is utterly mindless and casual

>Buy Grimoire
>Get 600+ hours of gameplay
>Game is made by one of the greatest living minds and is his magnum opus
>A true handcrafted adventure that pushes the boundaries of the medium
$40 is a steal.

>>382902997
>>382903115
Jesus Christ.

>>382903491
>4 stats
>too many

As insane as the dev is, he's still less of a subhuman than you.

>>382904174
You shouldn't be on this thread.

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>>382902997
>The truth is there is not an AAA title you could buy nowadays that deserves to crawl up on a high chair and plant a kiss in the crack of Grimoire's ass when it comes to enjoyment, immersion and wonderful escape.
I can't argue with this. The man is 100% right.
The only criticism fags who shit on Grimoire have is MUH BAD GRAFIXXX.
But then again those people were never interested in playing this kind of game anyway.

>>382904198
Quantity=/=Quality
Take Wizardry 7 as an example. It's far larger than Wizardry 6 but extremely tedious instead of fun.

I'll consider playing it if it gets good reviews when it gets on a 66% sale.

>>382904198
The developer of Grimoire has IQ of 180 or probably even more. The fact he didn't pursue scientific career but decided to make the best rpg ever made tells something about him.

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>>382904350
I have last veto on any price anywhere as the author.

This game will never, ever be offered anywhere for $12.95 before the year 2025. That's a promise.

I am considering an opening discount. It is highly recommended by Steam. After that, it will go to full price and stay there for the next 8 years.

I am following the development of SHELTERED and they are doing a good job adding new detail every few months. It's a very good investment.

Anybody doesn't like it is invited to spend 20 years of their own time writing a game superior to all previous Wizardry releases. Good luck, it's easy to say but hard to do. Working alone, it's impossible unless you are a Neanderthal.

>>382903742
the post is irony btw

>>382903967
As a kid I used to see the pics of these in gamer magazines and want to play them, but by the time I owned a PC it was 98 and Baldur's Gate isometrics was where the RPG genre was at. Getting "wow this this awesome" staring a magazine screeshots nostalgia looking at his Steam page.

Is it truly the Patrician choice?

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>>382902869
>making your game intentionally look shitty
>ask for $40

>>382904310
>The only criticism fags who shit on Grimoire have is MUH BAD GRAFIXXX.

What the fuck are you smoking? Grimoire looks stunning. It's the best in this category.

The graphics are not why this game is being shat on. It has been a source of drama for over a decade.

>>382904738
>No sun.
This is fucking wasted potential, what a fag made this.

>>382904350
>when it gets on a 66% sale

Dev said it won't go on sale for 8 years. Which is rather funny, since he also said that he will release the source code once he begins working on Grimoire II.

>tfw this game has been in development longer than the majority of current 4chan posters have been alive

>>382902869
t. robert sirotek

>>382904513
I like how that table conviniently ignores Wizardry 8.

Looks too complicated.

>>382902997
>>382903115
Wow you are a fucking retarded samefag. Cant wait for your shit game to fail.

Eh, I might pirate it if people say it's fun enough.

>>382905165
Mang, do you know he is posting author post from Codex RPG?

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>>382905165
I caught secondhand embarrassment from this post.

>>382902869
The mirrored golden skeletons in the frame are bothering me.

>>382902869
who is that semen demon on the top right

>>382904883
>This game started development before Baldur's Gate 2

>>382905332
Sister Cole. Her nametag is right there.

>>382902869
Is that cat making an ahegao face?

LMAO this is great:
>Grimoire: IndieGoGo Campaign Pitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyXSCd2Lp0

>>382903687
He is not insane.
Just excentric - which might look like insanity for normie shit guzzlers. Excentric people throughout history achieved great things. No normiefuck will ever achieve anything if he just comfortably stays in his normiedom.
You have to go to extremes to achieve anything of significance. This guy spent almost 20 years making this game. You can talk shit and make fun of him all you want, but that alone deserves respect.

>>382905539
It's eccentric, anon.

>>382905482
>Even the indiegogo failed

This is going to flop.

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>>382905482
Dear lord I can hear the autism.

>20 minutes
>opens with a rant about Neanderthals

>>382905482
Dude sounds like a 60 year old.

>>382905482
>2013 release date

>>382905539
Oh god it's Bulletball all over again.

>>382905737
He's self-aware = not autism
He's the stuff of legends: eccentric madman tramp

The guy is legit madman, right? The way he's hyping this up, he won't be content unless it sells enough to buy a small country and is praised as the second coming of christ.

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>>382905482
>In Grimoire... you may ride on turtles
Oh my god

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>>382905482
>What IS Grimoire?...its a french word for magic book

Woah

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>>382905539
>He is not insane.
You sure about that, mate

>>382906009
He's a madman, but he's self-aware. I don't think he cares that much about sales as compared to valueing his product, hence no heavy discounting and the high price point.

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>>382905482
I have autismal deja vu

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>>382906205

This guy is nuts. Game sounds good.

>>382906493
He's right about gravity. There are no good theories of what gravity is and why it exists, only the deeply flawed and limited approximations of General Relativity which fail at the smallest scales (no working theory of quantum gravity) and have big problems at the largest scales (spiral galaxy rotation problem).
He's a true Patrician thinker.

>>382905857
Bulletball WILL be an Olympic sport in 2020.

>>382906205
>>382906317
>>382906493
He's right, though.
You're just a mad brainlet unleashing your butthurt because you're not able to counter his arguments.

>>382906272
What can you do in bob's game?

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>>382906205
That's funny as fuck.
Judging by his vocabulary and how he structures his thoughts and makes hispoints, he sounds like a legitimately intelligent person to me.
Again, I don't see any insanity here. Just a great sense of humor.

And if it's anything like Wizardry then it'll be GOTY. I'm actually hopeful for this game unlike the dozens of failed, shitty attempts at making new """classic""" RPGs.

>>382904619
I had the same thing. I used to watch certain ads on magazines and read reviews of Ultima V etc over and over again.

I don't know about Grimoire though it might be too weird for my tastes. I tried the 2013 demo and I wasn't that excited. It's graphics for example reminds me too much of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and I was never fan of that game too much.

But maybe the 2017 release is going to be cool anyway. Need to see what happens.

>>382904513
>Steam
>giving that fat lardass kikejewpig Gaben my hard earned money

Will there be a GOG version of Grimoire?

>>382906205
>>382906493
He's smart and good where science is concerned but the problem is that he's an egomaniac. He's bringing his "factual" reality into a completely subjective hobby and stating his game as factually worth something when worth is up to the market. If his game flops he'll go on some tirade over the "factual" evidence of his great game, but nobody will care because they don't want to play his shit. None of his years of science research are going to change that.

>>382906272
God I miss Bob and his insanity

>>382908162
After a while. He doesn't want to support pirates.

>>382908147
>It's graphics for example reminds me too much of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and I was never fan of that game too much.
get the fuck out and die in a gutter.

>>382908259
Yes. This is usually the problem with hyper fact-based people. They fall into the same trap as religious people. They are always right, hiding behind their books, and everyone else is always wrong. It's not a bad thing to be into science but it has a habit of making arrogant people. It takes a unique blend of experience, compassionate raising and knowledge to make someone who is smart and has wisdom. This guy is lacking in the former two.

>>382907739
>Just a great sense of humor.
>humor

He's been doing this non-stop since the early days of AOL. At some point you have to consider that maybe this isn't ironic after all.

>>382907960
Doesn't look like Wizardry to me; looks like the same "realtime" sort of Dungeon Crawler as Eye of the Beholder.

>>382908434
well, he's supporting jews instead. Okay then I guess.

>>382908793
Yeah he's just a few Nuts shy of being a Terry A Davis.

>>382908259
It is clearly his life's passion project.
Why would you give a rat's ass if his fantasy game is based on HIS 'personal factual' reality or not?
Also what's the downside for the game of him being an egomaniac again? I couldn't give less of a shit. On the contrary, it actually sounds exciting to play a game made by an oddball, it will only add to the otherworldliness imo.
Considering everything the game promises to offer, $40 really isn't much.

>>382908259
He seems self-aware of his limitations and the niche appeal of his game in the pitch video where he talks about the past games he developed as being things that noone has heard of. He's self-aware and content that it's a vanity project and not a commercial one.
Obviously a lot of risk in that as a consumer but lets see what the madman comes up with in a few days. It may be just that he's a perfectionist who needed a de facto publisher to put a deadline on him to get his baby out the door.

>>382909047
Because it's going to be shit given he has no perspective outside of his own head.

>some Australian shitposter took 20 years to make the game of his dream

I HAVE to play this.

>>382908791
It's a vanity project on a vanity timetable, in that moral framework it's reasonable.

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>>382902869
> tfw this is actually not a neat game made 20 years ago~

>>382908974
Who knows, maybe adopting TempleOS could really save us from Microsoft. And then Europe would usher in a new golden age.

>>382909464
We have to defeat the CIA niggers first.

>>382909464
>>382909850
The CIAniggers should fear the Temple of God.

>>382909189
Possibly, but he seems pretty confident and I've been won over by his enthusiasm and intriguied by the narrative charm of a madman's magnum opus.
He's made games like this before in a commercial setting, this seems to be a vanity project he's allowed to over run on a vanity timetable without a publisher/commercial obligation to put an end date on it. It's not a technically difficult game to make and it's not a question of commerical loss/bankruptcy on the project. It's a quirky thing from a quirky guy. Deserves a chance. We'll see soon.

>>382908434
>implying releasing it on Steam will prevent the game from being pirated
It will be cracked and released by a scene group on the day of release.

I wonder if Cleve realises that he is cockblocking a part of the game's fans who would gladly shell out $40 for the game on GOG, because they categorically and out of principle don't want to give their hard earned money to a lardass billionaire judenschwein kike pig that was undeservedly memed for a decade as the saviour of pc gaming and in the end turned out to be a money grubbing false messiah.

>>382909189
>given he has no perspective outside of his own head.
What does that even mean? You are just being vile and edgy for the sake of it.

>>382909961
>He's made games like this before in a commercial setting

He worked on them. I don't think anything he worked on got released, unless you count that mobile game. Donut Lad, or whatever.

>>382910413
Wanna read his blog?
http://vault-co.blogspot.com/

>>382910431
In the vid >>382905482

>>382910074
>implying Cleve won't sue everyone

>>382908162
I am hoping Steam will greenlight it soon and when GOG finally gets it then it will be the grandiose super polished heavily upgraded masterpiece EL MAXIMO edition. I have ideas for a thousand little things now that would enhance the gameplay but will not be putting them in until it is selling on Steam. Things like floating tooltips for the Atlas map and many other cool assists. Hopefully these will be contributed to Steam and patched into existing builds.

>>382910541
No, thanks. I'm going to continue playing Donkey Kong Country 2 in 5 minutes.
Thus said, if Grimoire is a good game that's all that matters.

A man of words and not of deeds
Is like a garden full of weeds
And when the weeds begin to grow
It’s like a garden full of snow
And when the snow begins to fall
It’s like a bird upon the wall
And when the bird away does fly
It’s like an eagle in the sky
And when the sky begins to roar
It’s like a lion at the door
And when the door begins to crack
It’s like a stick across your back
And when your back begins to smart
It’s like a penknife in your heart
And when your heart begins to bleed
You’re dead, and dead, and dead indeed.

>>382910612
So nothing since the Commodore days. Still, 212 of them? That means I should have played at least some of his games. I need a list.

>>382908162
It may not be on GOG for a long time. If ever. It might not be on GOG for years. Either way, Steam buyers win big because if/when it is on GOG it will use Steamlink.

>Selling an indie game for forty dollars
>right after the fucking steam sale

I just fucking bought a load of games, including quite a few RPGs, and I imagine most of the other people who would otherwise be interested did too.

Even if it wasn't coming out right after I just spent a bunch of money on games, forty fucking dollars? With how cheap games are on steam now, I don't even buy AAA games unless they're under twenty-five, and this guy thinks it's a good idea to charge forty? I know that game design skill=/=business sense, but if he's been working on this thing for what, twenty years? You'd think he'd have given it a bit more thought

Doesn't he also believe that the Neanderthals were the true master race but the homo sapiens (who he refers to "saps" as a derogatory term) beat them on the sole grounds that the Neanderthals were too honorable?

The man is a gift

I want RPG Codex to go.

>>382910074
>judenschwein kike pig
A little repetitive there.

>>382911317
He is one of the last Neanderthals alive. You will see his glory.

>>382910074
Honestly, I'm not sure it will actually get cracked. Which pirate group will actually bother with it? You'll have to hope someone at cs.rin.ru gives enough of a fuck to even upload it.

So he finally decided to finish it? Did he find a way to squeeze his shit about neanderthals in the game's story too?

>>382911997
I'm sure he did

>>382907739
You can be smart and crazy.

>the walls in the screenshot are textured with some Giger shit
>one guy in the party is an eyeball on a stalk
>those forum posts

Oh I am for sure buying this

>>382902869
Jew

>>382911317
>Doesn't he also believe that the Neanderthals were the true master race
you don't have to believe that. it's a fact. they were smarter and physically more capable. that's why they needed approximately 5k calories a day unlike us subhumans' 3k and therefore were more prone to starvation.

>>382902869
waiting for indepth reviews and will pirate to try first

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>>382912416
Excuse me. Those eyeballs on stalks are AEORBS. Learn your GrimWAH lore.

>MFW I have no interest whatsoever in playing this
>MFW my entire interest is in shitposting about it on /v/ and seeing the explosion on RPG Codex when it finally comes out and it inevitably ends up being mediocre at best

>>382904513
Retard question, but what exactly does character library mean?

>>382912575
Go back to RPG Codex, Cleve.

>>382912671
>resist memes

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>>382905482
>@18:40
>you can solve the riddle by directly typing the answer into a textfield

Ok, I'm sold!

>>382912857
It's a menu to create party members and assemble party teams to play in the game.

What the fuck are all these stats

>>382908793

>ironic

Why do millennials like this word so much?

>"I am that madman" - Cleve Blakemore


His autism is off the charts. This game is either going to be the blunder of the century or something dungeon crawling fags will circlejerk over.

>>382902869
>fail

but the game found it's market when it was first released ? ? ?

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>He also has an obsession of sorts with the Neanderthals, claiming that they had built a true civilization and that knowledge of this is being suppressed for whatever reason, and also frequently espouses much in the way of discredited, early 20th century racist pseudoscience. He also believes "that if action is not taken soon [to destroy America], heaven is obligated to issue a public apology to Sodom and Gomorrah and a possible lawsuit for reparations may be in the cards. Blakemore believes that the purpose of television is to destroy Western society, starting with the women. Once the women have been worked on, they will be estranged from the men, who will enter into a deluded life of hopeless despair:
Their wombs start with the potential to draw down the future and once you take them out of the picture, the wretched males are easily picked off and eliminated one pink slip/heart attack at a time. The males are real tough guys who can go without food, water, sleep and fight with sticks and stones ... but destroy their females and isolate them from each other, the males will wither up and just blow away like dead flowers. Men need women even more than women need men. Without women and children, men have nothing to live for. Don't be fooled by that three-time divorcee chuckling over a beer about how glad he is that none of them bitches "tied him down," girls ... he'll be dead in six months in a car accident because he had insomnia at 3 am in the morning, saw a sharp turn and suddenly without knowing why just decided to hold the wheel steady and go right over the mountain. Men without women and children to protect and love are nothing, they're not even human any more. That's why television knows, you kill the female, you kill the entire species.

Are the Wizardry games still good? Never played one.

I played games like Grimrock, but I'm more interested in a turn based combat system.

Which one should I start with?

>>382914820
Wizardry 8 actually didn't age very much

>>382902997
>>382903115
I can't wait until this game undersells his target by thousands of copies and we get his inevitable rant about how people just don't understand "his genius". He must think that the entire internet is hanging onto every word, but in reality nobody cares. Should have been released 20 years ago when gaming mags were still hyping it.

Dead on arrival.

>>382903687
What's the song that plays in the background?

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>>382912774

>>382916696
>muh sekrit club
>muh fahnny mememes

>>382903208
>What the hell is going on in this thread?

An RPG that's been in development for 17 years is being released on the 8th. The dev is...eccentric, in fact he believes he's a throwback to mentally and morally-superior Neanderthals. His posts on rpgcodex.net forums are being copy-pasted ITT.

>>382916696
>MFW I have no face

This is my first time hearing about this. So some mega autist has been working on a classic dungeon crawler for the better part of 20 years?

>>382918114
https://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-the-game-the-legend-the-con-the-thread-resurrection.75724/

This is my first time hearing about this. So some mega autist has been working on a classic dungeon crawler for the better part of 20 years?

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>>382902869
>grimoire actually getting on-topic threads and being acknowledge at all

thanks guys you make me feel hope again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuLOUufHdaU

>>382917401
It's been over 20 years now. No joke.

This is my first time hearing about this. So some mega autist has been working on a classic dungeon crawler for the better part of 20 years?

>>382918339
Yeah, I was pretty shocked myself. But I am not feeling positive towards Grimoire, nonetheless.

The only games cleve have ever actually released were shit tier. Grimoire is going to be shit.

>>382902970
>He doesnt want to get back at the world

fucking normies reeeee

>>382918460
yes and he has promised its release thousands of times at this point

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>>382903491
because while games like skyrim thought to be more streamlined & got rid of almost all it's stats grimoire goes in the other direction

>>382918224
>releasing two days after the steam summer sale
Now that's just scummy.

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>>382918339

That's what piracy is for, dipshit.

>>382903967
None of those games have ridiculous amounts of stats. Your point?

>>382918649
So skyrim is over casualization and grimoire is needless complexity

>>382912970
He is not wrong though, the reality is also dumber, they died because they reproduced less and had more complications during birth, they also died out because they bred with the homo sapiens since we had more people running around, them being smart is cool but completely useless at the age they lived in

>>382918649
>never played Darklands

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>>382902869
>40 bucks

holy shit.... really?

Cleve surely believes in the hype.

What even sets Grimoire apart from other "hardcore" RPGs these days?

Just the amount of content?
Cause I was honestly thinking of buying it. But I know next to nothing about it, apart from the fact that it's been in development forever.

>>382918649
>life/age
>days dead
Interesting, to say the least.

>>382903854
how long will it take to get a torrent

I'd wager two hours from release

>>382918649
>Never played Realms of Arkania

>>382902970
>muh karma
Shut your stupid fat mouth you retarded american mongrel

Is it going to be on GOG? Or is Cleeve to big of a Jew? Ironic, huh?

>>382919062
Its not going to be on GOG.

This is my first time hearing about this. So some mega autist has been working on a classic dungeon crawler for the better part of 20 years?

>>382918649
Wis and Wil as two different stats and speed and agility as two different stats?
Is there any popular system that actually breaks those up instead of calling them the same thing?

buncha sapes itt

>>382904513
how is eye of the beholder 80 hours long? are you insane? i finished that game as a kid in like 5 days, maybe playing 2-3 hours a day.

>>382918920
>What even sets Grimoire apart from other "hardcore" RPGs these days?
name me 3 hardcore rpgs in the style of grimoire or wizardry released in the past 10 years.
you can't.

>>382918339
At least half the people that acknowledge this shit is to mock it. I know I'm in that camp.
Looks like shit.

Played this a while ago in "super beta" state. Felt to me like poor man's Wizardry 7 all and all. A million bugs and glitches, poor balance, shitty interface/UI, boring items/spells etc.

If you played Wiz7 to death and want more of the same even if it's of inferior quality, probably worth it on sale (?) I wouldn't touch this with a stick, though.

>>382918920
>Cleve surely believes in the hype.
What hype?

i deeply enjoyed eye of beholder as a kid.
is wizardry anything like it?

already played grimrock, those were fucking good.

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>>382905482
>No one in their right mind would spend this much time on a game like this
>MAKING THIS GAME REQUIRED MADNESS
>I AM THAT MADMAN

I'm going to buy it and then refund after cracking it so that I use my old RPGcodex account to spam the living fuck with mega links of hiss game

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>>382902869
if this game is good, why is the art trash tier?
i'm not talking about the graphical design, i'm saying look at some of those portraits. it's going for a distinctly Wizardry feel and doesn't replicate that magic.

>>382919247
Sword and Sorcery: Underworld
Elminage Gothic
Stranger of Sword City
suck my cock

>>382902997
>>382903115
I can almost feel the ego wafting from these.

>>382919062
He said he'll release it on GOG later, if ever. Basically, he wants you to buy on Steam.

Why? Because he actually thinks Steam is harder to pirate.

>>382911317
well isn't that why the bogs run the world

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>>382903259
>People are afraid of the game because it doesn't have anime butts and faggotry.
western fantasy used to have lots of butts and faggotry.

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>>382919902
is it harder to pirate?

>>382919989
>Conan
>faggotry
Explain?

>>382920028
it is. you might have to copy and paste the included crack.

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>>382919247
Well I don't really have to, because even if games in the style of wizardry have been lacking lately, the dungeon crawling genre has clearly evolved beyond that stage, even 20 years back in the day.

If for example I have the choice between going back to a certain wizardry game or going back to Ultima Underworld and its spiritual successors then I'll pick the latter, simply because it's dungeon crawling concept was far more advanced.

Nobody cares if you can type in shit or if there's lots of number crunching. It's like that Einstein quote, that every fool can make shit complicated, but the real genius lies within delivering the same functionality at a more approachable level.

And that was pretty much done by Looking Glass back then.

So either Grimoire puts some dang good and advanced features on the table or I simply see no reason to play it.
>>382919360
RPG codex seems pretty hyped. Not your fellow /v/irgin tho

>>382920082
>he doesn't want to fug conan
Stop lying to yourself.

>>382903583
RPG Codex, like all other forums of it's kind, are slowly dwindling down towards oblivion, and this dev is like the final REEE of an entire species of RPG elitists. This is surreal, it's like a supernova of decades of RPG Codex autism.

I don't care about graphics, but this game looks tedious af. If its not a menu clicking nightmare I might pirate it later.

>>382908259
>He's smart and good where science is concerned

You said this in response to a screenshot where he's shit-talking not only evolution but germ theory and fucking gravity.

The man's fucking nuts. He's the Alex Jones of vidya development. Entertaining, sure, but don't take anything he says seriously.

If I only make $10K, those physical copies of Grimoire and the manual are going to be auctioned off on EBay for astronomical sums ten years from now.

Either way, this game is now locked in for a May 2013 release. If you miss the pledge you will have to endure a lifetime of agonizing self-recrimination you did not get in on the pledge when the period was available to do so. I think some of you do know something about me and you know I am telling the truth when I say there will never again be physical goods shipped outside of the fulfillment of the pledges. Not for any sum of money, ever. I am a Neanderthal and on many topics I simply do not give a damn. It is the terrible indifference of the children of Esau that is found to be intractable at times.
So say in 2014 one of the stateside publishers approaches me and tells me it is worth doing a small run of Grimoire in a boxed set as inexpensive budgetware around $12-$20. I am going to tell him I do not need publishers any more because of the internet and it doesn't matter how much money could be made on it, I cannot be bothered to shlep around organizing manuals and boxes ever again after the campaign ended. All I am going to do is seek DRM channels for Grimoire after that and never again ship anything that isn't digital only.

is this out already? a torrent where?

>>382904619
Same here, all those older PC RPGs look really cool but I can never really get into them.

>>382920028
GOG doesn't hold the pretenses of Pirating, so it's as easy as literally uploading the install folder

With Steam, you have to go through all the trouble of adding ONE additional program that easily cracks it

>>382907302
livestream your being-a-NEET-turned-protest-somehow for about five minutes before freaking the fuck out and trashing your room

>>382912671
>career instead of class

I love the idea of this guy heading out to work as a thaumaturge, but desperately looking forward to the weekend so he can have a sleep in and play weeb games in bed without needing to get dressed.

>>382920538
Two days left for the greatest game ever made, you dirty sape

>>382920590
go to the /vr/ HoMM general pastebin and download all the might and magic games and read the tips for starting them
best way to get into early RPGs because they are intuitive instead of needlessly archaic

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>>382912671
& werewolf's as well!

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>Grimoire is a quality game for distinguished monocle wearing top hat and tuxedo connoisseurs of roleplaying games. This is not another whackamole begware lowest common denominator sewer skimming bottom feeding title. I would recommend that regular Steam consumers have a doctor standing by before playing Grimoire as the shock to the system could lead to a trip to the emergency room. It's not like anything they are used to seeing up here. This is the true old skool goodness. You may think you are prepared but rest assured you probably have not seen this much awesomeness anywhere in the past 20 years.

>>382920153
>every fool can make shit complicated, but the real genius lies within delivering the same functionality at a more approachable level

the non-fun of unnecessary complexity is actually a selling point to the old school rpg elitists, as it serves to keep them apart from the casuals who are not as miserable and jaded as they are

Has anybody found out if all those stats are useful? I highly doubt they're all worthwhile, it looks to me like he just added more over time without going back and removing the redundant ones.

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>>382920590
if you have MS-DOS try wizardry 6 (bane of the cosmic forge)

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>>382912671
>>382920812
>Vamphyr
LET ME FUCKING GUESS. HE LIKES TO SUCK BLOOD.

>>382921009
Hahahahahahahahah
He's probably PROUD of the fact that 90% of these stats are completely worthless and only the distinguished individual will know to dump them
That's how a true RPG works, after all

>>382920779
Yeah MoMM3 has been in my backlog for a while.

>>382921110
Never played any Wizardry games yet actually, as for MS-DOS I've played Dark Sun and Darklands, both of which were really fun.

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>>382921157
Yes but there's more to it then that see their stats

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>>382911234
This.

He could have at least released it with the "opening discount" when the sale started.

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>>382921157
You should read the Necroscope series, they're sick. The "vampires" in it are called Wamphyri, and instead of being blood-sucking humans they're worm-like parasites that burrow inside people, jumping from host to host.

I kinda want to get it just to support this madman. Just like I would get Platform Masters if it ever came out.

>>382908259
He's really not. He sounds exactly like a teenager with a subscription to popular science crossed with a bipolar guy.

is this going to use denuvo? if no, this guy is gonna spaz hard when the game gets cracked in zero minutes.

>>382902997
He's being ironic.

Anyway, I want to shill Copper dreams

>>382921256
only a select handful of players should know how the combat system works. sacrificing your life to wade though endless trash posts on the official rpgcodex thread is part of the intended experience. only no-lifers are privileged enough to know such mechanics.

I hope it success.
Autists make the best games

>>382921376
I don't think he gives a shit, he's probably convinced there's a ton of die-hard oldschool RPG who are dying to play his amazing game.

>>382911317
Some people have posted other theories of his in this thread. Apparently american blacks are not descended from people in africa or something crazy like that, every cell contain all the dna of every creature and possible permutation of a creature ever to exist, and germ theory don't real.

>>382902869
It's niche and people will pay it

>>382921845
For every Underrail theres at least 100 Revolution 60s

>>382912970
No really neandrathals were apparently pretty smart. They had penicillin and shit. They just weren't as good at dick shit as we were.

>>382921968
Where does he think they're from, then?

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>>382921968
The "I'm not racist" post is one of my favorites. He truly is on a tier above even /pol/tards.

>>382922029
Doubt it. The only audience for the game posts at the codex. Perhaps a couple dozen people or thereabouts. Its not like Underrail where its accessible enough for people looking for an rpg on steam are willing to give it a go.

>>382922160
Read the post below you, but be careful. It might read back.

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>>382921968
>and germ theory don't real.
Wuh? I've literally seen viruses in various stages of life under a microscope. I've seen e. coli. I've seen a ton of others too. How can you not believe in germ theory?

>>382922160
I have no fucking idea. He made some retarded comment about haplotypes and said it proved that they weren't really from africa. It probably has something to do with his over-complicated and completely nonsensical theory about Neanderthals that I'm too sane to understand.

The man is legit nuts. One of the symptoms of that is that things he says don't have to make sense.

>>382922374
You're clearly just not as smart as him.

I'd consider getting it if it was ~$20, if only to savor the final product of this man's insanity. $40 is way too much, though.

>>382921308
HoMM3 is one of the strategy game spinoffs. You can download it from the pastebin as well.

>>382911664
This makes sense. 17 years to make a game is nothing compared to how long he has lived.

>>382920137
So like how pirating always worked before GOG was a thing?

Why are people so fucking lazy now.

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>>382922426
>tfw you're smarter than everyone else due to your superhuman neanderthal DNA but you've spent your past 20 years programming a game from a dead genre that no one is going to buy
>mfw

>>382919989

Look at the MUSCULARITYYYY

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>>382922198
>Cro-fagnon

>>382922396
He's crazy. I have no idea how he thinks he's a Neanderthal even if he believes they're more intelligent than sapes. Biologically he's the same as us, did he literally just decide "Neanderthals are more intelligent than homo sapiens so I must be a Neanderthal"?

>>382911778
Even CODEX cracks literalwho games, it's not out of the question.

>>382922672
It just sounds like he's a very sad person desperate to stand out in a crowd.

>>382918975
Inshallah my fellow European.

>>382922198
I'm in tremendous pain

>>382922672
I don't think sane people can actually follow his reasoning on that one.

I am impressed with his writing though. While clearly the ravings of a madman he's able to construct coherent paragraphs, even if the ideas contained in them are mindbogglingly stupid/insane.

Going a bit off topic, is anyone else aware of any ongoing projects that are taking an eternity to finish?

Age of Decadence was one of them, but I don't know about any rpgs at the moment.

Also, not rpg, but this Isle of Man mod for Grand Prix Legends has been taking maybe more than 20yrs at this point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5W5gV9dY7Y

Why can't autists be autistic about maintaining sensible development cycles?

>>382921009
why wouldn't they be useful the game has been indev for the better part of 30 years m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWJUD-QUls

>>382903115
>>382902997
if it wasn't for the game being archaic and indie you'd almost think this was written by icycalm also too few insults

>>382922615
A superhuman throwback to an obsolete race who nobody recognizes the greatness of coding a supergame throwback to an obsolete genre that nobody will recognize the greatness of. How fitting.

>>382903923
what the fuck does that mean

>>382919671
Ironically they all suck dick.

>>382922319
Speaking of Underrail, how is it? The steam reviews are mixed but the game looks and sounds nice

>>382923037
Madmen aren't necessarily only capable of rambling incoherently. Just look at Terry Davis, he's batshit crazy but he still managed to write an OS and all the stuff that comes with it from scratch.

>>382923276
Its great, and thats coming from someone who has no patience for outdated game mechanics. The game looks old but it feels very fresh, and is quite straightforward after about an hour or so of play.

>>382923359

Don't forget Richard "pick shit off my toe and eat it during a live interview" Stallman

>>382923638
I'm sorry, what?

>>382902869
I hated that tiny ass world screen since wizardry 7 and I certainly still hate it now

>>382908779
why you be rude like that it's like we didn't invent pyramids for nothign

After reading this thread, I'm sort of interested in trying it out. Not because I'm a fan of crawlers but rather because I'm intrigued to see what a madman has been working on for 20+ years.

>>382912671
Why there isn't Dolphins or Dryads? They are essential for any high fantasy game.

>>382923805
you never saw it? lucky you

>>382904336
Are you saying Wiz 6 wasn't tedious as well?
>forest looks just like the castle which looks just like the mountains which looks just like the pyramid of naked brown qts

>>382923815
Its missing "GRIMOIRE" in big giant letters taking up a quarter of screen real estate, so I guess theres some improvement on the gui front

>>382906205
>bringing up Lysenko
really

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>>382902869
>ripping off a game from 1981

>>382923638
Richard went mad only after doing most of the work he's well known for (coreutils stuff, emacs), he hasn't programmed in years.

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>>382918649
>magic: 2 of 2

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What difficulty is he going for?

>>382924445
The CIA took him out with brainwave manipulation emitters. Hurd was becoming a threat.

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>>382924738
Why not play the original PC version instead of watered down console version? You need to be faithful to your roots, baka.

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>>382922198
Jesus christ, this guy is a goldmine

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>>382924738

>>382924738
And this is the point where diehard old school elitists lose me. There's nothing fun about that situation at all.

COMPLETION NOT SUBJECT TO FUNDING!! THIS GAME WILL SHIP IN MAY 2013 WITH OR WITHOUT ENHANCEMENT!! A PLEDGE HERE WILL BE FULFILLED. THIS CAMPAIGN IS NOT A FUNDING FOR COMPLETION, IT IS A FUNDING FOR ENHANCEMENT!!! COMPLETION IS GUARANTEED HERE!

>>382924990
I agree, games have to be fun first, and making them overtly challenging just for the sake of being challenging and "non-casual" is pointless.

>>382923169
Speaking of, what's that autismo up to these days?

>>382912575
Protip: The 'best' species is not the smartest one or the most physically capable, is the one that doesn't go extinct. Too bad for neandercucks lmao

>>382924929
https://lparchive.org/Wizardry-IV/
This is a good Wiz 4 related read

>>382908793
He's australian and a zombie apocalypse prepper. Grimoire might just be the last best thing before that thing he's always been talking about happens. Time to spend your Shekels.

>>382924990
>>382925234
But don't you see, "fun" is casual. A true RPG patrician knows only the soul crushing despair of a single bad dice roll that wrecks your entire game.

>>382918649
I wonder how many of those stats are actually useful and not useless

Does this "rpg" even require a coded cloth manual that can only be activated by a special compass upon the solar rays of the summer solstice? What is this pleb shit? I bet its not even released on 8-inch floppy disks

>>382924990
>playing video games for fun
>being this much of a casual

>>382919623
I hope your account is no younger than 2005. If you start a shitstorm, do it right. Some 2010 newfag account is not enough.

Where can I find torrent?

>>382902869
Why not play Wizardry 8 instead?

>>382925910
Are you referencing an actual game with that coded manual shit?

>>382921968
wait, he believes germs are not real? Then what are those things you see under a microscope? What causes diseases according to him then?

>tfw too much of an inferior homo sapiens to understand his neanderthal greatness

>>382926271
There was a screencap ITT, basically he believes fungal colonies are the true killers and germs are only a symptom.

>>382926271
stupid cro-fagnon sape

>>382922114
Like other anons said, they also required more calories/day to function and had problems during childbirth and such. Also a higher intellect is worth nothing when you don't have the civilization to back it up.
Imagine if you threw one of us in the stone age. Yes we would be smarter than everyone else around but we would be weak as shit

>>382908259
He's a delusional asshat that just happens to have a good vocabulary as well as a mental illness.

He's incredibly insecure and will go through great lengths to preserve himself from insult. That entire rant was triggered by him realizing he had said something ridiculous, and instead of owning up to it he had a fucking meltdown where I tried to pretend like he was on a whole other level the whole time.

It's absurd that he has the balls to bring up Occams Razor when he flagrantly dispenses with well trod and well proven theories just because he believes that his own schizophrenic conjurings might be valid.

This guy is a total fool.

THAT SAID, if his game is good, it's good. If I see some footage of it that doesn't look like shit, I might get it. I've recently become interested in the Wizardry series, if this game is an extremely polished knockoff I might get it.

>>382911618
RPGCodex is where /v/ went, dumbass.

>>382922198
>jewish
>extended credits to me
THE LIAR UNMASKED. CLEVE IS A FRAUD

>>382926197
old games used to have "code wheels" as an anti piracy measure which meant you had to use it and the manual to figure out the code word to unlock the game. That and old ass rpgs used to come with elaborate cloth maps and a bunch of frivolous shit.

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>>382926667

shit was fucked back then

>>382924738
>>382924929
These are ruses, right?

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>>382926118
>MENTIONING WIZARDRY 8
THAT'S IT *NEANDERTHAL SCREECH*

>>382926667
I know there were anti-piracy codes, but I was curious if there was ever a game that had coded game clues hidden inside maps/manuals. It sounds comically obtuse, but it'd be sick. Like a scholar at the end of a quest helping you uncover an important secret, but instead of just giving you an answer tells you to fold your physical map a certain way or w/e to get the answer. Way more cool than just a coded anti-piracy wheel and makes you feel a little more invested because LORE

I'll still buy it. The dev said it will have a launch discount, hopefully ~20% or so

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>>382927374
This fucking guy
So butthurt, even two decades later

>>382927374

Damn, that dude hates Sir-Tech more than Ray Finkle hates Dan Marino.

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>>382927374
Jesus Christ this is some top shelf butt-hurt

>>382927491
Are you joshing me here? Of course it was very common. In the beginning it was also used just to save digital space.
Wasteland was the most prominent example with a whole bunch of printed texts. It even had several fake stories, including martian travel, just to fuck with people who wanted to metagame hardcore.

>>382925910
> He didn't get the 1987 special preorder edition on papertape

>Neanderthals were so much smarter than cro-fagnons
>But they went extinct because their traits were less useful (for the time) than those of homo sapiens who was more energy-efficient and didn't have as many childbirth complications

how does this not prove evolution

>>382927928
The only ones I know of are the physical ultima books where you have to decode the map runes etc. It was really neat but I didn't see it in too many other games. I liked how it told you to read certain books at certain points in the game, it sucks that that mechanic is completely gone these days. It was cool because of the immersion and interactivity of having books from a digital world physically there, not just because you had stuff to read. That feeling can't be emulated digitally.

I think I am going to release it as full version since it is completable all four endings with all artwork sound music and design finished.

I will thwart pirates with several successive upgrades featuring new easter eggs, new treasure and new areas. There are still a couple places on the map I could squeeze some regions into. You buy the full you get the entire game and can count on several updates with cool new features.

>>382927240
No, Wizardry 4 is absolutely bullshit insane levels of difficult.

A lot of people think RPGs like Underrail or Inquisitor are difficult, but Wizardry IV is like 3 or 4 levels above them.

>>382927240
Read the Wizardry IV Lp and come back to me.

>>382927990
So did he come from some secret Neanderthal society that made sure to keep their genetic heritage pure over the past 40,000 years?

From the Grimoire Webpage as of January 1997:

When is the demo going to be available?
At the moment, we are planning to release our Alpha 1.16 on April 29th, 1997 at
this site for public review and to get some feedback. The game should be fully
functional in all respects. It will feature a small dungeon and forest area for
testers to explore and get some feeling for the gameplay present in Grimoire.
The public beta should be released in the early part of June, 1997 and the
uncrippled, fully playable shareware version will be available on the 1st of
September in 1997 for anyone to download and play.
How much of the game is finished right now?
The game engines are 95% completed at this time. The artwork is 60%, sound &
music 10%. We are making remarkably rapid progress and expect to achieve all
the deadlines we have set for ourselves. We are not amateurs at the business of
software development and would not be wasting your time by putting up this web
page if we were less than confident about releasing the game on time. We
despise developers who miss deadlines and promote games before they are even
certain if they can finish them probably even more than you do.

>>382927990
THIS THIS THIS

+1

FUCK that creationsit retard

>>382928348
>Inquisitor
boy that game has so much wasted potential. great idea, setting and aesthetics but the most atrocious combat that ever existed

>>382928518

12/8/97

We were ready to go on August 1st. Our server was all messed up and we
stalled for quite a while trying to get the address straightened out.
Given the folly we have learned already from releasing early versions in
that it allows cyber-hobos and information superhighway squeegee men to
nitpick at things that don't work, it seems an ideal opportunity to keep
the beta under wraps for private testing, then go ahead and release the
completed version in a month or two. We are not slipping, we're golden. I
don't "slip," ever.

IF you think changing our minds about a beta is slippage, dream on. We
are kicking massive butt on Grimoire and the current version is
absolutely beautiful. Comparing us with companies that slip 2-3 years on
dates is ridiculous. We have done more work in the past two months than
most companies could have done in a year with 50 people.

>>382928342
>I will release an incomplete version
>this is just to thwart pirates, I swear

>>382928608
1/9/97

>The whole pointless flamewar aside, I though the game was going to be
>publicly available on Sept. 1? What is the new release date?

October 31st ... HALLOWEEN ... (eerie John Carpenter tune starts to play in
background, Neil breaks out in cold beads of sweat on his forehead in terror
thinking about how awesome final product is going to be)

>>382904364
That he's a dumb sack of shit that took an online IQ test but knows it hold no water?

>>382927491
Of course it used to be common. Even MGS pulled that off with the frequency on the back cover screenshot thing.

I played the 'demo' from 2013 and it has very visible bug when turning. Each of the walls show black areas because the way the fake 3d graphics are working. Will the final release be bugged like this as well? It's very bad for the immersion. Also, why not support wider aspect ratios too?

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>>382924990
>"I beat Wizardy IV"
That's the fun. That's the reward at the end. I could be known for that if I really tried. It would be amazing bragging rights.

Just thinking about it is making me so excited. For the rest of my life, no other "pro gamers" would have SHIT on me. EVER again.

This is the One Ring to Rule Them All of video games.

>>382928806
He has probably gone into Dwarf Fortress like detail in game mechanics. This is the sole reason it has taken 20 years to deliver the game.

>>382918339
>grimoire actually getting on-topic threads

But there's only shitposting in he-- oh wait. You are right.

>>382902869
>that furry avatar on top right
Wow.

>>382927990
One of the current theories is that Neanderthals were intelligent and just as capable as modern humans, and because of that were seen as strong potential mates. They were just far fewer in number than sapiens. Scientists suggest they didn't die out exactly, we just interbred to the point where there were no "pure" Neanderthals anymore. It would explain why everyone has Neanderthal DNA. It might be true that they had higher caloric requirements, but they had medicine and advanced tools and stuff.

>>382902869
this shit is why I can't play wizardry or games like it
8 fucking party members is way too many

>>382927491
I remember having to basically print out a whole binder full of information to be able to play one of the old infocom games. I think it was a zorc spinoff or something, I can't remember I was like 5. If you didn't have all this information you'd have absolutely no idea what any of the monsters could do and if you didn't know that there were a lot of them that could just end your run if you do a single thing wrong when encountering them.

>>382928938
Dwarf Fortress isn't nearly as detailed as people claim. Especially when compared to something like NetHack.

>>382928992
hephaestus looks like hes bustin' off

>>382928587
Yeah, I feel the same way. I really wanted to like it, but I hated spamming potions every single fight and that godawful combat.

I dropped it around Act 2 and thought the devs would eventually patch it, but they never did.

>>382929137
Have you seen Nethack's source? The so called detail in that game comes from LOT of explicit if...then... structures and specific event flags. That's why it's so bloated and takes long time for the dev team to actually come up with any releases (among other things happening in life of course).

>>382929170
same here. I was done with the game after the eternally long orc dungeon in chapter 1

>>382902970
>hoping others succeed
Kill yourself.

>>382929071
So natural selection happened. I don't think Cleve realises that his idea of neanderthals and creationism are not compatible

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>>382929443
>>382902970
>hoping
the opium of the mind

>>382929092
you do know you don't actually have to have eight & can make a party of six right?

I mean you could even make 1 player character while the other five are NPC's you recruit along the way

By far the worst thing is not that the game looks like it's made in 1990, but that it also plays like it's made in 1990. It's slow and clunky as fuck. If you've actually played M&M 6 or Wizardry 8, at least they now run smoothly and you can do many actions in succession so the tedious system is bearable. This is hilariously designed to be both tedious and slow as fuck.

>>382929490
Yes, exactly. I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying Neanderthals didn't go extinct because they were necessarily less capable than us.

>>382929617
Do you control those NPCs? 6 is still too many. 5 is the absolute maximum.

no nudity = no buy

>>382929137
Having cryptic and bloated code doesn't make it more detailed. DF simulates far more, Nethack is just a roguelike.

7/6/02 Another release date missed ... business as usual

So, here we are on July 7th and the game is still underway. We have yet to get it back into beta testing and there is a lot of editing still in progress on the scenario. The artwork has progressed considerably featuring an all new look for the interface plus lots of "forever postponed" features like the map atlas are finally done!

What amazed me on July 4th was that 10,000 people visited the site to see if the game was ready. What was also amazing was not that I got some critical emails, but that I got so many emails of reinforcement and encouragement. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people out there who would like to play Grimoire or a game like it. We got email from all over the world from people who told us not to be discouraged because we missed our target release date.

From now on, no more release date projections until the game has come out of beta testing. Until then, we don't want to set up any more disappointments. We predict this fall may see the release of the greatest classic roleplaying game of all time and wouldn't it just be the ants pants if it was on Halloween? Of course, you didn't hear that from me.

>>382929856
4-5 is perfect. 4 is usually enough, but some games require you have utility characters like thieves so 5 is good.

Tank, thief, monk, mage, healer. I imagine that combination fitting in any game where such classes are allowed. if you're limited to 4, I'd drop the thief since they're not as good in combat.

>>382929502
Excellent post.

>>382929137
In nethack every event is individually coded. DF simulates properties and bacteria etc so events dynamically happen, different every time. One guy can find a new strain of illness, cough, and it will gradually spread around the world. Have you heard the mystery of the cats dying from alcohol poisoning because they were picking up small amounts of beer in their fur from pub floors and drinking it while cleaning themselves?

>>382924929
>Out there somewhere is someone who completed wiz 4 without a guide
do you think he achieved immortality after that?

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I want to get into Wizardry, which game is the best place to start?

I'm going to pirate it to see how a game that's been in development for 25 years looks like
We all know how Duke Nukem forever turned out

>>382930598
Probably 7.
For me 6 is still from the era when games were objectively ugly. I can't stand it.
7 on the other hand looks alright

>>382927374
I love this guy

>>382930598
Play 7 then 8. The rest are too dated, honestly. 6 is pretty good but you won't beat it. 7 has the automap tied to a map skill. When you start the map will suck, but you can choose to level up the map skill and it'll eventually flesh out and become more accurate. You can choose to manually map instead if you prefer, but it's cool that the option is there. You should find it comfortably accessible. If you finish it you can import your party to 8 afterwards and continue.

>>382909047
Promises can be hollow, anon. Just look at No Man's Sky. He can promise you the universe, but the question is can he deliver.

>>382927374
I'm going to buy this shit just so I can leave a bad review and then refund it

>>382920509

He's not wrong about gravity. It has been discussed in physics for decades now. You'd know that if you was actually interested in legit science and not a faggot hella f*cking epic Neil Degrasse Nigger reddit pseud.

>>382925301
he seems to be updating his sites like usual. I wonder what happened to his übergame?

>>382930598
Honestly?

Tale of the Forsaken Land is the best place to start.

>>382923227
All of them will be better than Grimoire

>>382930598
Only 7 and 8 are worth playing

>>382923227
>Stranger of Sword City
>Bad

Elminage is grind the game, and Sword and Sorcery isn't that great but it certainly isn't the worst, but Stranger of Sword City is actually not bad at all.

The dungeons aren't shit or tedious, the automap is well done, it has just as much bullshit as old wizardry with criticals but no more than that and it doesn't require the grind of most wizardry-likes.

The only shit thing about Stranger of Sword City is that it doesn't have any real puzzles but instead actually has a decent combat system.