Things that trigger nu-/v/

hating missable things is very faggy

The game doesn't trigger me but your post does because you're a fucking idiot
kill yourself

>Didn't find Pisha until end game.
>Locked out of two powerful doodads because of it.

>>382763118

And yet we had a 300 post autistic thread about two optional bugs in an indie cartoon game possibly being more than best friends.

VV is best girl.

>>382763132

Sorry it hit too close home, anon.
Consider pyschiatric help.

I find it quite weird that /v/ hates yuri now.

Come on now, how much of a raging homo do you have to be to have a taste THIS bad?

/v/ would be crying about forced diversity and white genocide if the demoman from TF2 came out today.

>>382763017
That's retarded. You are retarded. This thread is retarded.

>>382763594

Or a slow-to-catch reveal like Samus was a female all along style ending on a game.

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>>382763515
NOOOOO STOP THE GIRLS KISSING!!! IF THE GIRLS KISS THEN I'LL NVER GET A GIRLFRIEND!!!! LEGEND OF KOIRRA KILLED MY GIRLFRIEND!!!!!

I know it's a strawman but that seems to be literally the only reason they have, they can never give you a straight answer for WHY dykes are disgusting other than their inability to project upon a girl.

>>382763594
Tbf nobody was making a big deal about muh diversity back then

I don't personally care but anytime you make an aggressive push people will line up to resist you for no other reason than you being a prick; if you can predict and work around people hating on you you can make bank on that alone

>>382764073
Yeah, not like bisexual people don't exist. In fact, very few women seem to really be gay rather than bi.

And yet most people like this don't seem to mind harem shit where the girls swoon over the MC's dick. It's not like you're the MC no matter how hard you try to self-insert.

>>382763017
At first I scoffed but then I remembered The Division with that gay doctor. Although that shit was dumb as fuck, it still somewhat parallels this as /v/ sperged out.

>>382763594
Not really. The demoman is an obvious stereotype and anything stereotyped is instantly hated by SJWs. Unless it's "empowering" which demo is clearly not.
>>382764073
Literally just "SJWs like it, so it's automatically bad." Sometimes you'll get "It's ok when Japan does it".

Parappa 2 has so many instances of the diversity meme I'm honestly shocked I haven't seen people shit on it more often. Never even seen a joke about Burger Jew.

>>382764073
Maybe I can shed some light. Perhaps the reason a lot of people don't like these types of relationships is that it's forced and just virtue signaling on how progressive the story is. I'd say more than half the time the story is garbage and is just pandering and that's part of a large reason on why some people don't like it. This all being said, any relationship written is good in my book.

>>382764443
Any relationship written good is a-ok*

>>382764443
But a lot of the time it's shit that has nothing to do with the main story.

Like the literal outrage about Tracer's sexuality. Who cares? Game barely even has a backstory, much less a fucking story, and has a huge cast, only one of which is Tracer.

>>382764548
To be fair, and from the outside perspective of a dude who doesn't give a fuck about Tracer, Blizzard dangled that shit like car keys in front of the community since the inception. "There's a gay character, but we won't tell you who! Keep playing until we decide you've paid us enough and we'll reveal it in a comic you can also pay for!" is the worst reason to have a gay character, male or female.

>>382764443
The one that always got me was when Undertale came out and angry people started making art of either Alphys or Undyne as a man, and begging competent people to mod it in. That was the exact moment that I gave up on those people.

>>382763017
You know it's all memes, right? No one actually hates women, minorities, and gays. It's just the most absurd thing they can think to day since it is so easy to get a (you) by saying it. Tons of people are primed to point out why they're retarded.

This whole Phillipin Quilting Board is in merely pretending mode all the time.

>>382764548
If they had just announced Tracer as a lesbian from the get go, it would never have been a huge issue. The reason it even became an issue in the first place is because they did it after release. In this day and age of pandering and stancing within corporations and developers, you should be able to see why people are butthurt, albeit for something silly to be mad over. Most of these same people wouldn't have given as much of a shit if Tracer was just smooching puss from the beginning.

>>382765105

It's /v/, anon. Half the board is pretending, half the other board is teenagers without any self thought actually believing the shit they read here and parroting it truthfully.

>>382764880
>>382765109
Except that is exactly how you should make a gay character.

Tracer is a character who happens to be gay. It's not in your face, obtuse, and she's not shouting it every 10 minutes. Blizzard didn't even dangle it, some fucking reporter asked about it and they just said "yes, but we're not going to say who" because that defeats the point of making a character without sexuality as a focus, which is what /v/ fucking complains about all the fucking time.

This board is full of blizzdrones and everyone else shooting down gay characters because it's so "forced" and yet not one time did I see anyone defend this decision when it was so fucking obvious that was their intention. Fuck you people. You don't know what you want, you just want to hate things because other people hate things.

>>382765109
I don't think it's a problem for a character to go from "no canon sexuality" to "loves vag", really. I even think Tracer is probably the best character in the cast to make into a homo: giving her an intimate relationship adds some depth to her sparse-ass character by giving her a reason to fight, and giving her a male companion would've been terrible because the man would've had to be depicted as much more passive than Tracer herself, which would almost certainly end up as a bland dude that is project-yourself-here-to-imagine-kissing-waifu-bait, or much more active than Tracer, which is just not feasible given the constraints.

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>>382763017
>he forgets that the player has a chance to be ethnic
>he forgets that there is an entire district dedicated to ethnic people who get their own sub-race of oriental vampires
>he forgets that there's more than one lesbian in the game
>he forgets that the player as both male and female can seduce the same sex to get some bomb-ass blood between missions
Wew.
>>382763442
>"I'll ignore the tremendous lengths you've gone to be an asshole."
What did she mean by this?

>>382763017
>implying
There's quite a few gay cgaracters /v/ didn't lose their shit about, in pretty much every Witcher game, for example.
It really depends on how forced the shit is.

>>382765421
>/v/ is one person
You're being retarded. I personally don't care if there are gay characters, I am explaining why it became a problem. The fact that they specified that Tracer was gay already shoots your own argument in the foot. It shouldn't matter and should be acknowledged just within the context of the character, not the meta surrounding it. Gay characters SHOULDN'T be in your face, and should act natural like you said. But when a company specifically states a character once thought to be straight is now gay only after release, it makes people angry. You can pretend that this isn't the case and that Blizzard shouldn't be pointing out a gay character, but then you should be saying that Blizzard also shouldn't have said anything either and just make it flow naturally within the game. Many people are angry because it was seen as virtue signaling and pandering because of the sudden information being given.

>>382765105
>You know it's all memes, right? No one actually hates women, minorities, and gays
If it was 2010, I'd agree with you, but after trump, The_Donald and all the reddit/tumbrl brigades coming here, that view is bordering delusion these days.

I'd love to do it, just to trigger reddit posters, but I can't anymore, since there are more than enough redditors here these days, who think this is the promised land of right winging

>>382765557
>the man would have had to be...
No. He really wouldn't. Your justifications for Tracer being a lesbian have no actual logic behind them. That being said, I think Tracer being gay was a good choice out of the cast, which is the only thing I agree with you on in your retarded post.

>>382765681
>/v/ only cares when it's forced
nah, fuck off. people cried here when adam jensen's boss in MD was gay when you could only know by looking at pics in his apartment

>>382763515
>>382764073
Maybe they grew out of it.

I grew out of it.
Lesbian/yuri was my shit in my mid to late teens. My tastes were more voyeur then I think.
These days the concept of hetero porn is just so much more gratifying than something I can't actually experience or empathize with.

I also find that on average yuri stuff is written worse.
I've always dug stuff with story and context more than just some pointless fuckfest, but even with backstory and shit Yuri is generally written very lazily.
It's like the entire point of most yuri stuff is
>dude, lesbians
and everything is just props that up and does nothing more.

Which isn't to say hetero shit doesn't have the same pitfalls of existing only to slap two characters together below the waist, just that I can recall a decent volume of hetero shit that I can appreciate on multiple levels, but I can only remember one good yuri story; and even that plays on reluctance, denial(which are just as available in hetero settings) and one of the characters having a very compelling masculine charisma that allows me to somewhat empathize with.

>>382765903
>/v/ is one person
Yeah, a lot of anons bitched about it. But a lot of anons also pointed out it wasn't in your face, like me.

>>382765932
Maybe it's okay if there's a character that you don't have to project upon anon
Maybe it's okay if someone writes a character that you're not meant to self-insert with so you can imagine scoring with all the hot ladies

>>382766294
Reading comprehension, buddy.

>>382765932
That retarded idea would work better if /v/ was not full of underage morons.

>>382767016
There is a decent mix of people who don't actually break rule 2 here.

I'd also argue that said underage people probably access pornography at a younger age than I did so could have gone through the same growth at earlier checkpoints than I did.

I'm hardly stating it is the single reason for something which is a subjective observation to begin with, just that it might explain a few cases as it makes me realize that somewhere along the line I did change.

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>>382763017
Cinematic Experiences. Have you heard about it? It's the new cancer that's ruining modern games.

>>382764443
The issue is most relationships in general are poorly written. Artyom and the sniper in Metro: Last Light is fucking atrocious, and it would still be if it was gay. For every Tidus and Yuna, you have 100 Nathan Drake and Elenas. The only way to remove stigma and make gay romances in video games less of a big deal is to have more of them and normalize it, but that means there's going to be a shitton of bad ones. And until people stop freaking out either way, giving a romance way too little or way too much scrutiny just because it's XX+XX, we're never going to get past this hump. It's an unhappy medium for either side where gay romances are still rare enough to be made a big deal out of, but not nearly ubiquitous enough to satisfy the other crowd, and neither side wants to be here.

>>382763017
In Divine Divinity, you can meet a farmer that implies pretty clearly he's not only pansexual and promiscuous, but also cross-dresses as a woman every evening

I hate that gen seven happened.
We're only now recovering.

>PS3 had no games
>Xbox 360 was launched as broken hardware and charged online membership while only having a couple of games
>Wii was a fucking gimmick in a cardboard box
>PC development got shot in the foot as everybody avoided working with 64bit processors because of the console's share of the market
>was the start of cawwa doody and ass cred and shit getting the fifa treatment, AAA development completely turned away from any new ideas
>EVERYBODY FUCKING SETTLED INTO 1080p, TURNING 16:10 DISPLAYS INTO PERVERSE COLLECTORS ITEMS

We had some good things during it but they all turned sour in the end.

>Minecraft yielded the early access and kikestarter shit
>Adventure games lost any connection to actually being a game and walking simulators survived their baptism by fire

>>382768116

>Yuna and Tidus
>Good
>anything from ffx
>Good

>>382768789
What are your complaints with FFX? And I don't mean to put any pressure on you, but HA HA HA HA HA doesn't count.

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>>382768405
There's plenty of characters like that in Japanese games too like this guy who is very clearly some kind of bisexual pervert who immediately starts hitting on the male protagonist when they meet. But for some reason nobody cares when the Japanese do it.

>>382768856
Don't talk shit dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USxbfEZvq48

fucking art

>>382765932
I'm probably more prone to liking it because I have a fat fetish and the contrast between a curvy/skinny girl and a landwhale is quite appealing in itself.

Het stuff adds nothing when sex isn't the focus to begin with in this case, even if it's there.

>>382765702
Information about characters is released all the time after release, why does only her being gay upset you?

>>382768856
Unlikable main character
Grinding necessary, as all party members must be used and they don't share XP
many characters (Auron, Yuna, etc.) are stereotypes ripped directly from shonen anime
Story is convoluted as shit without any purpose

Because back then this was just inconsequential shit not the in-your-face smug activism we have to put up with now. Causally dropping in a character who happens to be a lesbian is inclusive and inoffensive unlike the aggressive tribalism of barrier creating identity politics.

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>>382769165
99% of the time the shit /v/ gets mad over isn't in-your-face smug activism at all though

stop getting mad, retard

>>382763017
look at this SJW bullshit

>>382769165
As opposed to the peaceful and totally inclusive alt right/nationalism of nu-4chan, right?

>>382769253
mind worms are perfectly safe

>>382769253
>he has a view that differs from mine he must be mad!

Grow up, retard

>>382769516
but that's not what I said at all? are you imagining posts that don't exist?

>>382769142
>Unlikable main character

Tidus is meant to be a spoiled whiny brat at first. The flashbacks with Jecht are all about this. He gets better as the game goes on.

>Grinding necessary, as all party members must be used and they don't share XP

Fair enough.

>many characters (Auron, Yuna, etc.) are stereotypes ripped directly from shonen anime

Except they all defy the same tropes they're based off later on, dude. Did you finish the game at all?

>Story is convoluted as shit without any purpose

The story is a straight line, and the only potentially confusing thing at all is the Tidus Fayth situation, which in-game could not be clearer. Only people who read about it on the wiki are confused. And what do you mean, the story has no purpose?

>>382763017
That's not un-needed pandering to drive sales nor controversy, and thus advertising, so you missed the point entirely

You seem to be oblivious of your scapegoat, "nu-v" aka "muh bigots" and their stance on modern games
If you were not this triggered by different opinions you might have understood

>>382769716
Nah, I got 40 hours in and wasn't able to finish the third or fourth seymour fight, as it forces you to start with Kimahri, Tidus, and Yuna out, while I had been primarily using Auron and Lulu. If the story only started making sense after that, I don't regret not finishing it.

>>382769747
>un-needed pandering to drive sales

such as what? i bet you almost all recent shit /v/ got mad over like the 70s afro shit is as much "pandering" as this

>>382769960
>Nah, I got 40 hours in and wasn't able to finish the third or fourth seymour fight

That's fair enough. Seymour Flux is a fucking bastard, lots of people dropped the game at that point.

>If the story only started making sense after that, I don't regret not finishing it.

Again, it was a straight line. Tidus ended up in Spira from the Zanarkand of the past when Sin showed up, Sin was his long-lost father turned into a monster, Tidus wants to fuck Yuna, Seymour is a zombie and wants to also fuck Yuna. Literally everything is explained adequately. You could say you don't know HOW Jecht became Sin but that's not important until you come to that point of the game.

>>382769747

Please, enlighten us with examples of what you consider "driving sales and controversy."
Because out of the top of my head, from the past three days, I can passingly list you roughly six different retarded shit /v/ has had mentally handicapped threads about regarding "muh SJW" and reached past 150 posts;
-Hollow Knight beetles
-Billie in Dishonored's DLC
-AssCreed Egypt cringe
-A frigging 200 post thread about how Tales of Berseria is SJW somehow
-Civ V leader choices
-Main character of some shit indie game nobody cares about being female, god forbid, being propaganda for females

>>382770246
I think that was the fight; the one right after you fight the undead sky dragon, when seymour was about to marry Yuna.

The "why" and "how" are important, though. I start in some sci-fi city then I'm in some fantasy zone - sure, I get that. But why, how, why's sin my dad, why's Yuna so important, why's seymour such a cunt, why so I give a fuck about any of this when Tidus is a terrible character, Yuna is some pathetic moeblob, Auron is indistinguishable from 50 other tough anime strongmen - it was all without explanation. FFX cemented my distaste for JRPGs permanently, as well as probably turning me off japanese pop culture in general until just recently.

I really, really hated that game.

>>382770590
>I think that was the fight; the one right after you fight the undead sky dragon, when seymour was about to marry Yuna.

Nope, Flux is the one after it. Flux will crush your soul and smash your dreams into pieces. All the other Seymours, as well as all the Sinspawn, are lesser gatekeepers, though. Not easy, but less likely to break your body and your mind.

>But why, how, why's sin my dad, why's Yuna so important,

You find out at the end of the journey definitively, but you're dripfed clues throughout. Like when Auron reveals he's an Unsent at the Guado place, and through the Spheres that show Jecht, Auron and Braska going on their own journey to beat Sin. The biggest clue comes before your Seymour fight, actually, when you learn that Summoners die when they cast the final Aeon to seal Sin.

>Tidus is a terrible character, Yuna is some pathetic moeblob, Auron is indistinguishable from 50 other tough anime strongmen

The issue with Yuna is mostly localization, unfortunately. They fucked up her voice actress so she sounds a lot wimpier than she should. And again, Tidus gets significantly better by the end of the game, starting out intolerable. Auron is exactly as shallow as he seems, with a tragic background like everyone has and not much else, but as a cool mentor he mostly gets a pass.

There's a lot to love about FFX besides the characters, anyway, that I personally adore. The aesthetic and design on everything is gorgeous, and the soundtrack is superb. But >opinions, I guess.

>>382769747
BTFO

>>382771102

The main issue with FFX really was how everyone barring Yuna and Tidus were simply filler background additions.
Other FF games have similar characters, like 8 has Selphie and Zell who provide nothing but being token happy go lucky extras, or IX having Freya, Quina or Amarant stick around after their particular plots are done and they don't really have a reason to.
6 and 7 were early RPGs concepts where "joke" or "filler" party members were more popular, so I leave those two out.

X though really focuses on Yuna so much, that the rest of the party may as well not be there and the game wouldn't have lost much.
Lulu, Wakka and Khimari are entirely inconsecuential and provide nothing.
Only Rikku, funnily enough, has an impact on the storyline barring Auron, and that's just because of her racial factor, not so much because she actually is relevant as a character in itself.

>>382771368
>X though really focuses on Yuna so much, that the rest of the party may as well not be there and the game wouldn't have lost much.

I would disagree really strongly, actually. Yuna is the main thrust of the game, being both the main character and the macguffin, but every character drives the story. They go to Bevelle to play Blitzball for Wakka, for example, which leads to them meeting Seymour and kicking off that entire subplot with the bad Machina being used against Sin. The journey is for Yuna, and Tidus gets the most screentime interacting with her, but the other members of the cast are actually more heavily involved with the story than the average RPG cast.

>>382763017
The lines of dialogue mocking republicans
I was gonna make a bait thread where I pretended to be offended and angry at /v/ for lauding an anti-republican game/shoving politics down my throat/calling tim cain and co a jew, but I couldn't screen cap the game properly for some reason.

>>382763017
I hate you for using VtM:B to such shit post.

>good game design
>fag and nigger characters weren't on the nose and in every game
OP, you are the neocuck.

>>382771640

Eh. You could have switched the characters and their reasonings very easily. It doesn't feel like their interconnections with one another are nearly as relevant as other plots, with Yuna and Tidus feeling extremely detached due to Tidus being the "narrator" and entire PoV of the storytelling.
Them going to the Al Bhed or visiting the Ronso, or the happenance of Bevelle just feel simply like added excuses so you don't forget they are there and to push them into having some manner of relevance. Like Wakka's entirely retarded anti-guns garbage which gets solved in 0.5 seconds with common sense, as it shouldn't even have been an issue to begin with because it's retarded.
And the whole Ronso business was just bad.

Incidentally, Lulu who?
You'd think someone that wound up dressing, looking and fighting like she does while living in a village in the middle of fucknowhere in which she stands out like a giant sore thumb would have gotten a bit more development and explanation.

>>382771789
>>382771831

Examples of triggering are just as good as examples of triggering material, your contribution is acknowledged.

>>382763348
Wait, where was this? What was this about?

Just finished VtMB - Carmelfellas/Strauss ending
Ass me anything

>>382763017
I'm more offended they'd use a middle eastern girl to represent a lesbian vampire. The creators should be burned to death

The problem isn't that Tracer is a homosexual, the problem is that it has no consequence on the game. So why mention it?
It's like when years after the books were out, Rowling announced that Dumbledore was in fact gay. Why the fuck does it matter? Why do I need to know?

Since it's not in the books his sexuality will always be an unknown in my canon.

>>382772027
Nagaraja are traditionally from India, actually

@382771992
sure showed us

>>382772185
>@
fuck off twitterfag

>>382772137
First thing I thought of when Tracer was mentioned in this thread. It's just shameless pandering.

>>382772026
Why'd you pick the most pussy and embarrassing ending?

>>382772012

Hollow Knight's blacksmith and artist bugs optional sidequest business where you find out they live together and shit.
Some autists where raging hard about literally two cartoon bugs living together.

>>382763017
this fits a vampire setting, makin super mario a transexual negroid doesn't thats the difference hence no story

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>fragile white males get triggered by the handful of minority and female characters
>forgets 99% of games is pic related

>>382772137

What the fuck do you mean by "why mention it"? Literally the whole fanbase fawns over made up shipping, content about the character's pasts and fucking begged for the comics showing their lives to be made until they were, and everyone throws money at Blizzard the moment they shit anything remotedly personal on vague stereotyped character models from any game.
Why is it surprising that they mention the chick she lives with and bangs in a comic literally about her normal life?

>>382772262
The masquerade must continue, but not while headed by a megalomaniac whose callouses are only softened by a desire to play to the crowd.

The anarchs are sweet, but naive. Someone needs to keep the media and government quiet, and that's not gonna happen from a dive bar.

>embarrassing
For whom?

>>382772435
I hope you're just not understanding. What value does it actually add to the game?

And if it does add value, why wasn't it mentioned within the game itself?

>>382772137
>So why mention it?

because it was a christmas story showing what they did at home? not to mention that overwatch is a shit game so the fanbase clings to the characters

>>382772384
At least half of those games are trash
>Mass Effect
>not the biggest cuckfest in gaming

>>382765702
They weren't changing canon info. Isn't that as much your fault for assuming every character you see is straight unless specified otherwise? There's no reason to be more upset about this than upset about, say, hypothetically finding out that Mei is an orphan. But I guarantee you the backlash would be way bigger about Tracer's sexuality. Why is that?

One thing I've noticed - neither the alt right fucks on here nor the socially progressive economically liberal types who make a big deal out of this shit can tell when something is being done out of genuine drive to be inclusive or when something is done by some boardroom fucks who want to score equality points.

Pisha, Arcade from FNV, they were genuine characters.
Tracer and the rest of the overwatch cast exist to cash in.

>>382772660
It's a tiny bit of character backstory - it only gets mentioned in a small side story thing they did. It's like asking why the Sniper talks to his dad in Meet The Sniper or some shit.

What's the problem?

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>>382772384
What are you bitching about you are getting someone who resembles you.
Pic related.

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>>382764073
Dude,lesbians,lmaoooxd

>>382772618

For you.

>Willingly handing over the city to the Tremere, ever

Also the anarchs aren't against the Masquerade, they're against the autocracy of the camarilla

>>382772618
Started playing the game a while back myself.

Why the fuck would I want to side with the anarchs? Jack is pretty cool but he doesn't even seem to care that much about their cause. Nines is alright the few times I've met him but that fucking black guy is annoying as fuck, and damsel is literally "FUCKING CAMMIE'S, RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE"

I just want to fuck off and hang out with Beckett and Jack all day, and occasionally fuck Jeanette.

>>382772743
>Cash-ins
Huge market successes
>Genuine Characters
Indie darlings (but only the right kind of indie), non-western titles and cult hits.

Am I understanding this correctly?

this thread is str8 cuck nigga shit

>>382772384
>tfw this picture is so old Geralt isn't even on it
>tfw a good third is bargain bin trash I don't even recognize
>tfw in 5 years every character will be an afro sheboon or literally >>382772759

>>382772759
>hurr durr minorities iz monkeys

you can't die off fast enough gramps. I'm glad everyone sees white males as the evil autistic sociopath dicklets that they are now. not fucking one person thinks you are the good guys anymore lmao.

>>382773019
t. white male

>>382773019
>Iz monkeys
It's an ape idiot. I was calling you an ape. You are the one who made it about minorities.

>>382773068
>piss poor attempt at minimizing
>white autism

lmao keep punching those outdated strawman though. the world's already left you piss haired corpse eyed micropenis white boys behind.

>>382772660

It adds,
>depth to the character
>possibility of personal attachment
>increase or decrease of sex appeal

How do you not understand the simple factor that the characters have lives and personalities because they were made by someone with an idea for them, and while by all means they are bound to have been tweaked to be commercially acceptable, anything that is revealed of them to add depth and appease the community's questions regarding the setting is pretty much just an extra?
Incidentally, why does it need to add to the game? The Witcher is full of filler lore that adds absolutely nothing to the game. It just provides background. There's no reason for it to be there. But people like finding information about things they interact with. TW does it for its world because it's an RPG.
OW does it for characters and the setting they are in because it's a shooter.
Not complex.

And if your whole argument stems from
>why mention it in the first place?
You need to be reminded they didn't mention it.
They were asked if there was a gay character at all in the roster.
They said there was at least one.
Eventually Tracer made out with a chick in a comic about her life.

>>382763017
This is best girl, that blood chalice she gave me saved me plenty of times, and those eyes!

>>382773138
>feigning ignorance thinking he's clever

ha you knew what you are doing you defective piece of shit. little white bitch can't even own up.

>>382772940
When you treat sexuality like they did - keeping it secret until it's clear that it'd make marketing sense, then turning it into some advertisement - it's a cash in.

>>382773220
Own up to what? You are the one who sees a picture of a chimpanzee and think "OMG RACISS". You are the one who went the racist route uncle tom.

>>382773154
you sound pretty resentful

>>382763515
Yuri is cute girls kissing and being shy.
Lesbianism faggotry is two butch bitches spending more time talking about how queer they are and how shit men are than actual fucking.

>>382772916
>to the Tremere
Not in my Los Angelos. He's one of my advisors and I'm the next prince, ushered in on a wave of victory and near single handed competence.

>masquerade
The anarchs are good for the odd rogue vamp, but they're not influencing mass media or keeping powerful mortals silent when dominating/killing a handful silent isn't enough. The masquerade is served by the cash and influence natural to Ventrue like myself. You get all of that, plus, I'm not an asshole and I'll actually take care of things myself!

0 downsides. The anarchs will love my new camarilla.

>>382768915
The mental gymnastics people use is that it's okay because they're not doing it to push an agenda. Apparently every single jap developer hates gays while every single western developer is trying to brainwash consumers into loving them.

>>382773284
>YOU LOOK LIKE MONKEYS
>IM NOT RACIST THO

hahaha

t. lying white snake

bet you're too much of pussy bitch to pull this in real life. dicklet.

>>382773291
>white males responsible for the worst racism, sexism, genocide, rapes, serial murders and literal planet killing

it's only natural to hate white males. they're the default enemy of all humankind no matter how much they try to push egotistical propaganda that they're the """""""""heroes"""""""""""

>>382772137
This is such a bullshit argument.

Did you cry when they revealed Torbjorn had a wife and kids? Did you go "ugh why are they shoving his sexuality in my face? it doesn't matter to the game"

No part of the backstory has any consequence of the game, but you didn't go brigade on the internet about that

>>382773558
you actually sound insane, or youre trolling which i hope is the case

>>382763594
It's amazing how you think a reaction is not in response to an action.
No one cared about demoman, or Pisha, or the sexual stuff in BG, because at the time it wasn't made a big deal. Developers introduced these characters as - the demoman, Pisha, etc etc. The reason there is a reaction NOW is because developers would introduce those characters as- here's a black man, here's an ethnic lesbian, etc etc with the intention of making a political point.
It's the artificiality that gets people annoyed. Do things organically and no one cares.

>>382772925
>jeanette
>split personality-painting of two different girls next to daddy

I don't get it.

If you want to see an example of real "forced" inclusivity there's the trans character from Andromeda or the cultural liaisons talking about pronouns, or the guy whom Dragon Age Inquisition using a fancy made-up fantasy word for transsexuals.

Tracer kissing a girl or Adam's boss having a picture of his husband in his apartment is not "forced"

>>382773601
It's simply bad storytelling.

>>382773176
>m-muh lore

>>382773154
post a picture of your hand

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Tim Cain is homosexual, so I can no longer play any of his games, because that would mean supporting mental illness.
This is the worst feeling.

>>382773624
>desperately still minimizing

this is reality now pink boy

>>382772925
You're probably 25+

>>382773514
They have to know deep down that their just excusing it because its their super special specific brand of "degeneracy" right? They cant be that fucking stupid right? Then again the fucking SA was full of Homo's too and they were in denial about it even when Hitler was fucking shanking their stupid asses.

>>382773932
seek help

>>382773882
>It's simply bad storytelling.
That sounds like a very different critique compared to the conversation thus far.

>>382773965
Not really, it doesn't add anything to the story being told within a certain medium. If something truly matters you put it in there.

If Tracer being gay was that important it would've been in the game.

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Look at this pandering bullshit. Why are they showing Torbjorn's wife? She's not in the game, why is it being pushed in my face like that? They're really trying to push a heterosexual agenda.

>>382773154
L I T E R A L L Y
S H A K I N G

>>382772384
We already had this thread.

>>382774147
>the normal people agenda
??? ???

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>>382774104
What an arbitrary prerequisite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rq-dnTTeZs
Here you go, now it's in the game. Is it suddenly good storytelling now?

>>382774239
Yeah, no problem. It's still fucking retarded though.

>>382773019
Technically that's an ape

>>382774239
Which part of the "game" is this?

>>382765109
>>382765421
>>382765557
The game has no story, it really wasn't even needed to talk about any backstory, gay or not.

>>382774147
theres a difference between fleshing out a character and arbitrarily making a character certain orientation or ethnicity to check off a diversity box

>getting upset over the existence of supplementary background lore/fluff
It's not too late to change your hikkikomori ways, anon.

>>382774475
>>382774475
>>382774475
hope you can fill in the words i was too retarded to actually type

>>382774475
>giving a character a heterosexual partner is fleshing them out
>giving a character a homosexual partner is forced diversity
>b-but I don't have any problems with gays, they're just poorly written!

>>382773019
60 more yeas to kick and make your life living hell faggot!

I will make sure you KYS!!!!!

>>382763017
Like, all of Alpha Centauri

the quotes and technology are 2deep4u alternately pretentious and edgy garbage plus the faction leaders are SJW bait out the ass

>>382774309
its a nigger

>>382774683
*an igger
sorry

>>382774630
like i said, theres a difference

>>382774630
t. oven dodger

>>382774805
*PUTS YOU ON TRIAL*
*TURNS UP HEAT LAMPS*

>>382773942
20 actually.

>>382775106
Well, you outgrew your teenager phase without becoming a SJW cuck. Congrats.

>>382774803
Explain the difference then. You need to actually articulate an argument.

>>382774104
>If Tracer being gay was that important it would've been in the game.
Maybe it isn't that important and thats why it was revealed in the comics?

>>382775376
the difference is whether its actually relevant or just to tick off a box, its that simple

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>Black Protagonist

WE WUZ KEKS RUBS HANDS GOYIM CAIM WHITE GENOCIDE LEFTYKEK GOOD GOYIM

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>>382773750
You don't get why I'd want to fuck her? She's hot as fuck. Plus Unlike her sister, she didn't try and have me killed. Then again, a lot of the women in the game are hot.

>>382775232
Thanks anon.

>>382775379
Maybe it isn't important and shouldn't be a thing then.

Or can't you sleep at night unless you know the sexuality of every being you've seen on a given day?

>>382775649
>immortal voodoo warrior
that actually makes sense though, could you at least put some effort in?

>>382775790
>Or can't you sleep at night unless you know the sexuality of every being you've seen on a given day?
You should ask yourself this question considering you reaction to it.

>>382775652
I don't get why before its revealed that they're the same person, they'd have a painting of two different people as if they were separate and regarding the story about Jeanette's sis sleeping with their father, it's difficult to imagine that the dad just went for months/years banging one daughter before the other's personality took over and got upset.

>killed
Arranging for someones murder is virtually just a friendly hello and welcome to the neighborhood in VtMB.

>>382775860
>implying it matters whether it makes sense or not.

You know the argument would be that the only reason they are adapting a comic with a black protagonist is to get SJW brownie points and to appear progressive. They would say that its an obscure literally who comic anyway and their just digging it up because diversity.

>>382775873
you actually do not understand what he is saying

>>382775790
>Maybe it isn't important and shouldn't be a thing then.
How do you manage to read/watch/play virtually any fiction without getting triggered?

>>382765932
No-one cares about your opinions, you dumb bitch.

>>382776057
>you know they would say
who? how? and it would depend on how it was done, see the difference in the reception of gta: san andreas (or gtav) and mafia 3 for example

>>382776250
i care

>>382763017

Vampires have always been huge fags.

>>382775997
They never go much into detail about it. Maybe Therese and Jeanette were actually two separate people,
and Therese killed them both. She apperantly killed him with a shotgun, so it if they were actually separate people it would have been easy for Jeanette to get hit as well. The way they talk about it, it sounds like Therese walked in on them. Maybe afterwards she went crazy and developed a second personality based on her dead sister, or what she thought of her anyway.

I'm just pulling that out of my ass but whatever.

>>382765105
No see, that's the actual difference between old /v/ and nu-/v/. Old /v/ was pretending half the time when they said stupid shit, literally the origin of "I was only pretending to be retarded" because back then it'd get a rise out people to the point half the board was constantly doing. Nu-/v/ isn't. And no occasionally (you) farmer doesn't compare.

>>382776415
>Maybe afterwards she went crazy and developed a second personality based on her dead sister, or what she thought of her anyway.
I like it.

One thing is certain though. Fucking Malkavians, man. The craziest place to put your dick.

>>382776594
The first letter of each word in this post writes out Your mother will die in her sleep if you don't reply to this post

>>382776635
Amen to that anon.

The more I think about that though the more likely it seems. Maybe the reason Jeanette is such a slut is because That's how Therese thinks of her after their father fucked Jeanette.

>>382774104
You didn't actually address the point the other anon brought up: if you consider Tracer being gay "bad storytelling," then either you consider any extraneous information about the characters not presented in-game to be bad storytelling (Torbjorn's kids, Brigitte, etc.), or you only think it's bad because you have a prejudice against gay relationships.

>>382774147
>People being normal is an agenda.

>>382776097
No, i honestly don't know why he thinks Tracer being gay is stupid but wants it to be in the game.

>>382769075
Because the information was always very direct. I assure you if the Christmas comic came out without any of their coy bullshit, people would still be mad, because it's true that there are people out there that hate gay characters. But a lot less people would be mad, because as it's already been explained Blizzard was clearly trying to drive up hype and attention with their "guess what? We have a gay character. Guess. Who. It. Is~"

>>382768915
You've apparently had your head stuck in the sand for years. Having some bisexual pervert come up and hit on you doesn't make it the same. For instance, unless that game follows up with no party dialogue or dialogue options to turn him down without coming off as a complete cunt, it's not the same as most modern gays Bioware, for instance, churns out.

>>382774147
You know what's hilarious? People actually god mad at Torb having a wife, they found it entirely unfitting of his dickhead character. So you're full of shit for assuming nobody cared about that, only muh tracer.

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>>382775652
>making heather wear the slut clothing
Your ghoul is basically the closest thing vamps have to a kid. The blood bond already makes her pretty crazy as is.

>>382778449
Sure, a non-zero amount of people got mad about it. But you're delusional if you think it's anywhere near the same amount as muh tracer

>>382776250
I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings?

>>382775997
Because they view themselves as two different people? Something both repeatedly state, no less.

>>382778549
I never said it was more, because the number is fucking irrelevant.

>>382778894
I always thought of the painting as an old heirloom from before the full manifestation of her Malkavian blood.

If it wasn't then it's sort of strange they'd come to an agreement about making/hanging/keeping up that painting.

>>382779117
It's literal existence is to act as a red herring about the reveal. But they were crazy long before becoming a Malkavian, so it's 100% likely they made that painting themselves and hung it up simply to remind themselves of the past.

>>382778493
>having carnal relations with your ghoul
How improper. Just the thought dampens my appetite.

>>382763017
But Pisha was interesting and well written.

You could just as well turn this thread around and claim that if VtMB was made today, Pisha would be going "I'M A BROWN LESBIAN BEEP BOOP" from the get-go and that would be all that she'd have to her.

>>382765932
Nobody grows out of anything. You're a pretentious faggot trying to be hip by browsing 4chan and rolling with the memes.

>>382763181
>he didnt go explore the creepy hospital early on
come on now

>>382780053
I only went in by mistake, myself.
With older games known for their bugginess, I try not to go off the rails in case I mess a trigger up.

>>382780183
wait what? i played it unmodded back in 05 or 07 and i explored as much as i could purely out of interest
no idea how many triggers i messed up now that i think about it but thank god for unofficial patch

Its ok for Pisha because shes already a flesh eating degenerate so lesbianism on top of that isnt that big a deal.

Plus you can murder her.

>>382780484
It's pretty wasteful to kill her though. Even if the level is a bit of a pain to navigate.

>>382779987
Literally one of the most commonly known facts is that people grow out of shit, you dumb fuck.

>>382779987
You're getting really upset at a contrary opinion my dude.
Hopefully you'll grow out of that behavior in time.

>>382780183
>I try not to go off the rails
Nigga what, I never knew anybody played like this
Trying to scour every optional side route before even accidentally progressing in the story always came naturally to me

>>382772925
>>382773942
>>382775106
>>382775232

Yeah who wants some SJW BULLSHIT like democracy or equal representation, true based anons like myself want to live under a dictator who views his subjects as pawns to be used as he wishes! I'm not a f*cking cuck!

check my 5

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>>382782095
>he thinks not going to the anarchs means going to lacroix

>>382782559
Sorry, did you drop this?

>>382763017
killed pisha because lesbian i prefer my games lgbt free

ITT: complain about obvious bait

>>382783515
ITP: come way too late to the party to act smug and drop an obvious fact everyone is already aware of

>>382783584
ITP: get angry over nothing

VTMB is about vampires and their universe, and if you know just a little bit about vampires you know that their universe is all about degeneration in all kinds and degrees.

If I ever see someone critisizing this game for that reason (looking for virtues/morals) in a trashed universe like this you are allowed to hit that fucker in the face.

>>382783584
If everyone was already aware of it then they wouldn't be constantly replying to obvious bait, wouldn't they fucktard?

>>382764263
>The demoman is an obvious stereotype
>Black Cyclops
Sure sounds like your stereotypical scot

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When the original PS1 version of Persona was localized, one of the most noticeable changes was making a character black for no reason.
Despite the fact that there are many, many things wrong with the localization, I can see /v/ being fixated on this one little thing and throwing a shitfit.
Imagine a world where the entire Persona series becomes known as "SJWshit" by the good majority of people here.

>>382763017
You know, in my day just because we called faggots and niggers faggots and niggers doesn't mean we really thought they were faggots and niggers. I have no problem with faggots and niggers in video games as long as being a faggot or a nigger isn't their only character trait. Look at Arcade Gannon, Veronica Santiago, Kaiden Alenko, and Vamp for well written faggots; and take a look at CJ, Jacob Taylor, Sazh, and Eli and Alyx Vance to see good examples of well written niggers. Honestly, I think there should be more well written niggers and faggots in video games.

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>>382765932
Good Yuri coming through.

VtMB just made me want another Shadowrun game

>>382767995
>implying MGS wasn't always cancer
At least the first ones had some good gameplay and a "not completely ridiculous" story. MGS4 is pure garbage.

>>382768589
>spoiler
At least we're getting some more variation now, although I get the feeling you're not too happy with the direction it's going. I can't wait to get my 3440x1440 monitor.

>>382773932
Stay mad White boi

>>382784937
MGS4's gameplay is the best gameplay in the series, as sparingly little as there is. It also has much better setpieces overall than the rest of the series, even if the peaks of quality in MGS2 and 3 are higher.

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Is this the Vampire thread?

I made a shit build and can't kill Ming Xiao
Should i just restart as a Malkavian?

>>382786342
dude just get flamethrower lmao

>Should i just restart as a Malkavian?
sure if you want to

>>382786342
There's really no shame being a cheating fuck endgame. Even with a combat build the combat isn't exactly riveting. Just artificially pump your xp with the console or turn on godmode and get some closure.

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They made this character bisexual for absolutely no reason.

>>382786484
I use that for 5 seconds and I'm already out of ammo, I mean it's good since it still takes almost half of her HP but I still get rekt afterwards
>>382786506
I think I'll do this

>>382786506
>yfw you cheat just after the theatre cutscene, when you talk to Jack, he will mock you because you used exp cheats

>>382782763
The camarilla is autocratic by design. Doesn't matter who the prince is.

>>382782095
>democracy or equal representation
>muh utopia

don't believe in anarch propaganda, this is not possible.

>>382773558
>it's only natural to hate white males. they're the default enemy of all humankind no matter how much they try to push egotistical propaganda that they're the """""""""heroes"""""""""""

Success breeds jealousy I suppose

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Can you imagine the butthurt if this was announced today?

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>>382783870
The original ps1 persona was accidently racist as fuck though.
Masao(Mark)'s persona is literally an ooga booga tribal god. Also there's the part where the password to get into the school is "My face is white, so you know I'm true.

>>382763017
VtMB had a pretty diverse set of characters but they didn't let those things define them like is more common now.

Pisha
>flesh-eating occult item trader who happens to be gay/bi

Damsel
>angry communist Anarch who happens to be a woman

Skelter
>superstitious rebel who happens to be black

etc. etc.

Their skin color, sexual orientation, and things like that didn't define them. This game would probably be praised by SJW's which might be a good way to get more interest in proper sequels to it but I'm also kind of worried that they would just see Jeanette and complain about sexism.

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>>382765903
>>382765978
Oh shit I had no idea he's gay
Guess that makes it a better game?

>>382789974
I mean, while all that is true, every single woman in the game who isnt explicitly designed to be ugly has huge fucking tits. Hardly the best example of a progressive game.

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>>382763017
Also you have the guy in Santa Monica waiting around because of his broken down car who says something like "I'm married to my job... and I have a wife" in a way that makes him sound like he's not that interested in women, and you can seduce him as a male character.

>>382790484
There's only one overweight male character too and the rest are usually muscular, that doesn't mean it's bad. A game doesn't have to accurately reflect modern society in every way. Characters are designed to be interesting and attractive in their own ways, it'd be boring if everyone was just self-inserted and entirely realistic.

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Anachronox's cast is 2diverse
>a sassy black scientist woman with cornrows
>quirky robot sidekick
>asian(?) stripper assassin
>a fucking dwarf
>a fucking planet
>a washed-up alcoholic latino superhero
>the fucking cursor has the posthumous conciousness of a indian woman

>>382790952
Jack, Skelter, Larry, Chunk, Gimble, LaCroix, Mercuric, etc - they don't look the same and certainly aren't all attractive. Big difference from the women, who're all clearly designed with the tastes of teenage males in mind. I like the game, it's my personal GOTYAY, but it's hardly perfect in this regard.

>>382763017
>Oh look I'm projecting again

what is going on?

>>382791609
I didn't just mean physically attractive. They're all lean or muscular though and only Larry is overweight, but people still like him because of his attitude about it.

I wonder if they're all like that because it was easier to just build a base model to use for all the female characters. They don't all have their boobs hanging out like Jeanette or VV, some are more covered up so it doesn't seem like they just wanted to shove boobs in your face at every opportunity.

Some people would have a field day once they figure out that the "money" command in console can make boobs bigger though. I'd hate to see what I also consider GOTYAY be torn apart like that by people who probably don't even play games :'(

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>>382776057

Shadow Man came out in 1999, SJWs didn't exist back then, it was a better time.

>>382793056
Yeah, it probably was done just because it was easier to make a generic model - but it's a very loaded generic model to pick, in comparison to the male one. But the point is, it's clear that the male NPCs have a much larger range of how they're presented compared to the women, and further, nearly every woman was clearly sexualized. Like I said, it's still my favorite game of all time in spite of this.

> I'd hate to see what I also consider GOTYAY be torn apart like that by people who probably don't even play games :'(
I'd hate to see what the alt right would make of a setting that's been progressive-leaning since the 80s more, personally.

>>382763017
Go fuck yourself you fucking slurping faggot. Use your own initiative you brain dead penis. Fuck you.

>>382793504
They probably thought it was better to have a base model with big boobs because you could still cover them up like it was done for Patty, Rosa, Samantha, Therese (at least covered up more than Jeanette), but if they had smaller breasts it wouldn't have the same impact with the more sexual female characters being exposed.

>alt right
Yeah... Although I would be kind of curious to see their reaction to the Sabbat and LaCroix. I feel like the story in VtMB is just as relevant today as it was 13 years ago and would like to see how more people react to it if it got really popular for some reason.

>>382763017
OP you are a fucking ethnic person.

>>382793058
>SJWs didn't exist in 1999
Shouldn't you be in school right now?

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>>382763017