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What happened to FFXIV? It started out with so much promise.

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What happened to FFXIV? It started out with so much promise. So much hope. 4 years later and we get Stormblood. Where did it all go wrong?
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Players kept on paying for it.
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>>382162332
So, at the risk of jumping the gun, what can we reasonably expect for the next expansion?
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>>382162738
Less.
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>Lyse is just as blood thirsty, prejudice, and disrespectful of other cultures as the worst garleans
>she's supposed to be the hero
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>>382162738
FFXVI
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It was always this way, stormblood is just coming at a time where the game is starting to get old and the same excuses of "server limitations" along with the same exact content cycle is starting to wear on people.
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>>382162840
t. Koji
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if you look at the noclip documentary and read between the lines it becomes apparent that yoshi wants someone else to take over dev of the game already
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>tfw love mnk to death
>suck ass at positionals and lose tons of dps for it
>cuck this cuck that don't know if it's worth picking up again
>everybody says just play sam but while I like the aesthetic I Don't like the way it plays

What should I do? Mnk mains how is it?
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>>382163596
It feels fine at 70 once you get Brotherhood and start doling out Forbidden Chakras faster than the skill can even cooldown

Only thing I don't like is Riddle of Fire slowing you down
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>>382163461
Shut the fuck up and stop shilling your shit here you fucking autist
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>>382163923
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>>382163461
>>382163923
I got that vibe from him too
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>>382162332
I expect the next expansion to add either an DoH or DoL.
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WHY IS WHM SO MUCH FUN THIS EXPANSION

HOLY SHIT

I NEVER HEALED

BUT STONE 4 IS MY NEW FAVOURITE FRIEND
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>>382163806
So the best way to level is pvp any quick tips to not be a burden? When I play drk I'm basically a unkillable assist machine making healers life hell with stuns,silence and pull in effects
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>>382163596

The class still hits hard as fuck, it might not be as fun anymore but it's a good class. Monk dummy parses will always be much lower than the class can actually do due to brotherhood.
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>SMN quests suck dick
>The SCH quests suck dick AND have the lala wanting to fuck a Tonberry

Who the fuck made these
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I kept getting in progress Royal Menageries with 30 minutes remaining and no tanks or healers in trial roulette
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>Q. You talked about FFXIV moving into e-sports before, but any updates on that?
>Yoshida: We're actually right in the middle of having discussions with sponsors. We'd like to have an official league, but at the moment we are getting feed back on the various problems that might come up, while we are preparing for it. Problems such as needing to go through PvE content to gear up and level up before you start PvPing, having too many skills where players wil get lost and confused, the need of a spectator mode (which we already solved by adding it in patch 3.4). We'll be solving these 3 problems and preparing it for the new pvp content which is planned for patch 4.0.

Do you guys think PvP can become a major factor in the future? Maybe no e-sports material, but big enough for people to just lvl to 30 and just play 100% time PvP?
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Less than two weeks from the launch of the expansion and doing Susanoo EX is already basically impossible.
PF is full of "farm party, make one mistake and I'll choke you on your own testicles". No much room for learning the fight.
And DF is made useless by having too many categories so you will never find 7 other people with same settings as you have.
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where the fuck do i store all this artifact gear now
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>>382163596
not a main, but i'm pretty sure i'm switching off ninja for monk because i make poor decisions constantly and i'm not thrilled with the nin changes
that said i'm pretty sure monk is in the best place it's been for a while, where it's probably just below where it needs to be and a few tweaks to some skills will make it good
it's also a bit more fun to play since i found hw monk a fairly boring class, since it only got like elixir field, a qol change with form shift, and like three things you used once per fight if at all. riddles of fire/earth + chakra gains + brotherhood make it a much more active class, especially against the background of most of the other classes got a lot of skills pared down

tl;dr monk is ok and it's more fun now
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>>382164424
The inn has a chest to store that shit and has had it forever.

That said, as someone who doesn't hate the pvp, there really isn't room for an e-sports scene.
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>>382163993
I too am (you) posting, how's my meme game?
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>>382162840
She comes off as the stereotypical triggered libtard fighting against conservatives despite coming off as far more awful in contrast but completely disregarding it because they think what their doing is right.
Stormblood's plot felt like a huge LOL comic to me and I could hardly take it seriously.
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>>382164341
No. It's very watered down, you hit the same 4-5 buttons and sometimes 6-7 rarely.

It's incredibly stale and all relies on raw burst, since any good players can't escape it reliably anymore.
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>>382164241
There isn't much I can tell you in regards to melee DPS in PvP, they get fucked over the hardest and unless you have a healer on your team, you probably won't be killing much
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>BLM is boring
>WHM is boring
>RDM is fun
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>>382164518
Riddle of Fire fucks you if your oGCDs go out of sync, since you want them to happen in RoF as much as possible.

Also getting slowed down feels like ass.
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>>382164317
Same here, and we always get a clear on the first attempt after we get a full party again
Really shows you who the problem in the group is most of the time
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>>382164341
>Maybe no e-sports material, but big enough for people to just lvl to 30 and just play 100% time PvP?
imo that's possible already

4.0 pvp classes are hella fun
I'd just wish there'd be a new style battleground that's not frontlines and not death match, smaller scale as well. Another 8v8 would be nice.
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>trying to level pld, whm and rdm at the same time
fugggg
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>>382164246
Good to know I might give it another try again.

It was the first class I ever played and still my favorite even though I'm bad at it. I want to give it an honest try once more.

>>382164317
>log off right before final msq trial
>log back in later and complete it after 3 tries but sucked personallyrics
>do trials roulette right after
>final trial AGAIN

Nidhogg 2.0 desu it's fun though
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>>382164317
You know a smart person would've turned off in progress then
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>>382164368
It's basically luck at this point a party you clear with will wipe or enrage next run. I'm lost.
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>>382164663
I don't know why RDM is so fun knowing how simple it's rotation/priority system is but I can't stop playing it.
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>>382164548
inn doesn't store anything other than AF1
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>>382164924
That's why I said kept and not keep
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>>382164848
I'm lvling NIN and WHM simultaneously atm.

NIN is getting boosted by MSQ so it's not that much of a slog and WHM is doing quick dungeon runs to catch up once I'm tired of all the talking. PvP as well because it's fun
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>>382165062
Instant casts are fun
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>Man, I'm so glad the filler boar butt questing is kept to a minimum now from Heavensward ownwards, didn't feel very Final Fantasy
>mfw the au ra tribes
>didn't want to skip anything incase I missed some sneaky plot advancement
It's no Titan quest line but fuck was it annoying.
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>friend fantasias
>his character now looks uncomfortably similar to mine
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>>382165062
satisfying animations, being able to move so freely as a caster, charging in with a corps a corps for a sweet combo before backflipping out and nuking them with the finale. Also the priority system still means your brain is actively engaged looking at whats proccing and what spell is optimal to cast next.
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>>382165212
you guys are sisters now for your character backstory :^)
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>>382164718
it makes big numbers pop out of the bad guys and i'm a retard who likes that stuff, i dunno what to tell you man
also it can't be as bad as ninki, i gave up trying to sync that shit with anything after like an hour
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>>382164618

>When you let /pol/ erode your soul and ensure that you will never have ANY happiness or fun ever again

And people willingly let it happen to them!

Enjoy the red pill of death.
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>>382165212
You know as couples age they tend to start looking more like each other
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>>382162738
garlemald or wtv it's called
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>>382165202
the Au Ra tribes were one of the more interesting parts of the plot honestly. At least the conflict there was something distinct from "Garleans bad, Ala Mhigo good. FREEDOM FOR DOMALAMHIGO"
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>>382165062
It's probably the most fluid and satisfying DPS to play right now, especially on Susano since the only time you have a chance of fucking your rotation over is if you're playing correctly is if you get gaol'd while doing your melee combo. Plus it's stylish as fuck.
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Will characters acknowledge me as the azure dragoon in heavensward even if I don't have dragoon active as my current class?
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>>382164368

No, you just suck. I've cleared it with three different PF parties with bonus players today alone, you could have been in any one of them. There's always training groups up as well. The duty complete no bonus farm parties are far worse.

You don't even need to watch or read a guide, I sure as hell didn't for either that or Lakshmi.
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>>382165559
yes
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Tomes should always be uncapped like this.
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>>382162332
When is it going free to play?
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>tfw no tribal au' ra to spend weeks rutting with in primal ecstasy
feelsbadman
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>>382165773
verity always will be, we still dont have the rare tomes
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>>382165795
respect the content
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>>382162332
Square Enix stopped supporting the game after 2.0.
XIV needs a triple-A sized dev team to keep the patches consistent, varied, and meaty; but they're staffing it like an indie game to maximise profits at the cost of sustainability.

The game is only worth subscribing-to before and after an expansion, and will only ever be. About the best thing I can hope for is that they implement PvP gambling at the Gold Saucer, and that probably won't happen because lolEUlaw.
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is there any 320 left side or is it just weap and accessories?
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>>382165773

And always be inferior to raid gear. Grinding tomestones is for casuals and autists.
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>>382165625
>u just suck XD

Please anon but would you or any others say lakex is harder that susex? Susanoo ex is easier than the final msq boss desu
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>>382165856
She's actually the best girl in this entire game. Fucking Azim Steppe was surreal in how good it was. Felt like i was playing some obscure CRPG story-wise.
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>>382166028
What do other MMO's, especially WOW do that FFXIV doesn't in terms of end game?
Is it having to play constantly to get the best gear? PVP?
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>>382162332

Yoship really doesn't give a fuck about this game, Heavensward and Stormblood doesn't get anywhere near to ARR and ARR doesn't get anywhere near to 1.2x
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>Beginners/first-timers welcome
>[Practice] Clear party know your stuff or be replaced
>[Practice] Learning party, please watch a Video
>Discord required
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>>382166028
When are they going to fuck?
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Is the Anon who said he was on Behemoth yesterday still around?
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>>382166028
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>>382165625
Life on the Data Center of Dreams must be nice, as here all I see is "know the fight or I'll kill you" farm groups.
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>>382166618
>>>/vg/
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>>382166642
Can't see shit cap'n >>382166743
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>>382162332
Cash shop ruined the game, it changed the mindset of the devs.
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>>382166743
jp is like that I hear
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>>382166778
That's an NPC retard
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>>382166778
that's an NPC you fucking dingus
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This game really needed to add something to summarize the story for returning players. Like I came back for the first time in a year and a half for this expansion and didn't remember anything from the story so I just started skipipng cutscenes.
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>>382166819
>mobilefag
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Nothing. StormBlood is the best XIV has ever been.
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Nerf red mage NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
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>>382166930
There is in for watching old cutscenes and journal has description of every quest.
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I want to violate Khloe's rights as a person with my dick
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>Bless Online officially dead
>Maple Story 2 never fucking ever
>only thing left to play is XIV
>it's shit
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>>382166930
This. I don't want to have to watch cutscenes to try and make sense of them through my own work and effort.
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>FFV inspired expansion
>no new Choco Barding that turns it into the Mambo de Chocobo theme
Shit expansion tee bee aych
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I've enjoyed the expansion, but the class balance has been a bit all over the place, hopefully they actually address some issues and hopefully before 4.1.
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>>382167095
begone pedo
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>>382166930
>>382167106
but there is literally nothing to remember for this addon?

The wall blew up and now we're marching into ala mhigger. That's literally it.
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>playing warrior 3.0-4.0
>perfectly fine
>warrior 4.0
>RDMs force me to start with 3-4 Overpowers every fucking pull or else they pull from me, even in defiance
>RDMs force me to grab a lot more hate than normal for bosses before i swap stances
i fucking hate that goddamn class
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>>382167095
Why are there so many fucking pedos even on /v/ ? Seek help dude
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>>382166930
Yes, something, what could they possibly use
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>>382167249
it's like that across the board for tanks

getting/keeping aggro got harder
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New SAM here
When there's an aoe, should I put both of my buff up? (Jinpu/shifu)
Or should I just go raw?
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>>382167249

There's a lot of complaints I have about 4.0 warrior, but enmity isn't one of them, just start with a steel cyclone and then one or two overpowers, if you want to be even more certain berserk that cyclone.
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>>382166930
Open your journal, retard
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>>382167319
And I'm fine with that.
It's annoying, but ultimately game is more fun when there is struggle instead of braindead following of a flowchart.
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>tfw beat Stormblood and already burned out

maybe I'll just start reading books or something
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>>382167249
Git gud scrub.
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I enjoyed Stormbloods story. Not as much as Heavensward, I felt that they stretched it too thin with Kugane + Ala Mhigo. It should have focused on one of them.

But other than that, it's not bad.
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>>382167520
You have your DoH/DoL to 70 too?
All 3 role leveled?
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>>382167378
I kinda miss Flash sometimes. On some pulls Overpower's area is kinda clunky and on bigger pulls it was so convenient to drop flashes behind me for mobs that followed.
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>>382167315
I do need help, help finding more porn of Khloe to bust a massive nut to
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>>382166862
WOW added a cash shop, players bitched and they stopped adding stuff to it. FFXIV players liked it so they add more and more, its little moe than a fucking shopping mall now.

Ruined.
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I NEED MORE SPACE YOSHI
GOD DAMNIT THERE ARE TO MANY OUTFITS IN THE GAME
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>>382166935
Please don't bully me. Sucks working when I want to play.
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>>382167520
Read the Chronicles of Prydain series of books.
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>>382166930
bait
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>>382167567
Everything in Othard was amazing (fuck Lize)
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>>382167661

I will agree with you on this, it was a minor thing, but flash was great for chainpulling just because overpower isn't that good at grabbing things on the run. It's not really a complaint for me, but I do miss out on it just slightly.
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>>382163461
Not only did e outright say it, everything else about (you)r documentary is bad and obvious. Stop shilling it, fuckface.
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>>382167317
>Momodi will never be relevant again
Shit sucks friends.
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>>382162332
When they started listening to OF retards who complained about everything. So, 2.1.

https://www.myinstants.com/instant/sloppy-97188/
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>>382167536
Yeah man not like I already adjusted or anything you fucking retard.
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>>382166642
>people listed in the credits are permanent employees
No.
It's known they have about 15 people working on the game full time. When they say "Titan EX was put together by dev team C" they actually mean "Titan EX was made by one guy, Michio Suzuki one weekend on unpaid overtime". The game needs more staff; more modelers and artists churning out enemies and gear, more game designers to make more boss fights, and more programmers to cobble it all together.
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>>382162738
>travel to Garlemald
>level cap raised to 80
>more pruning to make room for new abilities
>gunblader tank job
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>>382167874
>>382167317
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>>382167520
Speaking of, what are some books with a JRPG/FF vibe to them.
I'm talking airships and magitech and people using both guns and giant swords in combat.
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>>382162332

>What happened to FFXIV? It started out with so much promise.

1.0 started out as dog shit. If you think this isn't getting progressively better, neck yourself already for the shitty opinion or just unsubscribe and play something else like a reasonable thinking adult.
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>tfw we did everything, killed all those primals, and lyse never gave us a handjob
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>>382162332
There aren't any major problems with the game.
The content they release might not be innovative, but at least it's consistent
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>only time you get acknowledged as a mnk is when you talk to the npc to unlock temple of the fist
My mnk lvl is only 50 too, how cucked can one class be after being shown as the cover for this expansion
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why do are roegadyn the only ones who get a bend over emote
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>>382168028
FFXV the novelization.
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>>382168038
> If you think this isn't getting progressively better
It isn't.

Yoshidrones are so cancerous.
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>>382167897
>OF retards
Speaking of. How do they feel about the last MSQ trial?
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>aside from server issues and a few obvious class balance fuck ups (SCH, MCH) Stormblood is looking better than ever
>shitposting against it on /v/ intensifies

Wonder who could be behind these posts
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>try to make a fem aora
>looks like a fucking kid ingame
>make a male hyur instead
You can't win.
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How the hell do I get the Field Commander Coat achievement without killing myself?

Playing on Levi
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>>382168224
But you made a male hyur, so obviously you DID win.
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>>382168101
Will it ever be translated?
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>>382167103
>Bless Online officially dead
explain
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>>382168091
because theyre gay
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>>382168058

WoD just proves light winning utterly is just as bad for everybody on Hydaelyn.

So we much tolerate Ilidibus and his manipulations, movement by movement.
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>>382165856
>Primal Ectasy
>Primal
>PRIMAL
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>>382168091
Muscles are associated with gayness in japan.
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>>382168140
It's not getting worse either. Seeing how they managed to fuck up some jobs by making just a few adjustments shows that it might be a good thing they aren't attempting any big changes
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>>382164223
does it feel nice?
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>>382167249
>Unmend then DA power slash combo x2 and Salted earth
>start to go in
>like on the second souleater enemy aggro symbol is orange

The mage are a pain to tank for. Using the 64 skill can be risky if you don't establish aggro fast.
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>>382162332
>started out with so much hope and promise
It started as a shitshow, got a bit better with ARR then went back to being a shitshow.
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>>382168490
THE BEST
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Am I blind or does PF have no "don't give me results that require iLevel that I don't have yet" -option.
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>>382168058
Are any of the Scions virgins and pure?
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>>382168531
I don't get why some people insist that HW and SB are worse than ARR when they're better in every way other than the number of dungeons per patch
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>>382168373
>>382168450
Do only gay people like to bend over their characters? I'm pretty sure the 17 million people waiting for fox ears for slutty kitsune glamours would enjoy content like that too.
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>>382168140
>t. SCH
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>tank and healer queues weren't changed when new ones were added
>lets just add 2 cool new dps that won't change anything
>roulettes and dungeons are 45 minute waits
>surely this will all blow by after EA
>queues are still 45minutes
>reach lv70
>queues are now 1 hour because all the dps aren't leveling up past the content there

I hate new content, SB is shit, I love potd, potd expansion when? Just potd, fuck anything tank/healer related give me faster/better ways to progress as DPS.

FUCK YOU YOSHITP
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Is it possible to craft using your retainers inventory? Or do you have to swap everything into your characters inventory?
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>>382168291
Gain the ability to Lucid Dream.

Otherwise, the only way is to kill yourself.
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Final job that uses two-handed swords as dps when?
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>>382168761
To be fair, completely destroying even just one job is pretty unforgivable
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>>382167567

Ditching Y'shtola, Thancred, and Urianger for most of it was nice. Still waiting for the giraffe to get a new outfit though. Does Tataru not care about him or something?

Travelling with Lyse wasn't as interesting as going around with the HW crew but she was pretty great when Alisaie was in the party. "We're not smart enough to make good plans so let's just bash them in the face until we win" was a great contrast to Alphinaud's endless tactical rambling. But then Lyse started to suck when Hien showed up and she never recovered. Hope we don't have much to do with her now that Ala Mhigo is liberated.
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i haven't played since before basically 'new' vanilla, and i need some honesty. loved this game when i played Final Coil of Bahamut, our group beat phoenix but got stuck on bahamut because the DPS was bad at their jobs.

How long would it take for me to get back to endgame? 100 hours? More, less? Would like to play again, but I can't devote my life to it anymore
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>>382168882
yeah I know, I'm just shit posting.
It sucks for them but hopefully they get a buff in 4.1
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>>382168680
Not gonna lie, I would fuck Thancred
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>>382168805
>just do hunts goy
>1 quadrillion DPS mow it down in 10 seconds
>can't even get points solo
>never any room in hunt linkshells
Hunts are forever a mistake. I can't wait for Yoshi to try to also shoehorn more mistakes (Diadem more like Diedammit).
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>>382168680
>Big Papa fucked Yda on the regular
>Thancred fucks anything that moves
>Y'Shtola takes the beastman cock
>Louisouix obviously not a virgin
>Minfillia is a Mhigger raised by a catslut so certainly not
>Urianger fucked that dead femroe
>if the twins weren't hatefucking each other they certainly were getting laid at the Sharlayan academies

Nope, not a one
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Why does the AST gauge convey information that was already clear and obvious and not useful information like the time until draw is available or an Earthly Star timer. It actually is more limiting to cardplay because they're no longer buffs that you can remove
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>>382167709

Wait until the next server upgrades in 2025. No glamour books because that would disincentive people from buying more retainers.
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>>382168938
Just buy a potion, guy.
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>tfw monk's LB3 isn't Furious Fists like Ivon Coeurlfist

It's not FAIR
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>>382168910
>Lyse started to suck when Hien showed up
Literally the first thing she does this expansion is start to throw a fit because the scions arent immediately rushing to attack the empire and instead want to formally link up with the resistance, she started out shit and stayed shit the entire expansion
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>>382168938
I'd say 100 hours might be a good estimate.
But there's no reason to hurry to endgame, Heavensward story is great and Stormblood's isn't bad at all either
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>mfw warrior and insta queue
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>>382169051
>Urianger fucked that dead femroe
No he didn't, he was to much of a Wizard to do that.
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>>382167376
Anyone?
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>>382168140
1.0shill please end yourself already. 1.0 was literally killed off so please follow suit.
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i finally did it boyos now i can finally move on to grinding lakshmi
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>>382164223
>I never healed
>Stone IV
What?
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Is there any kind of cross server Primal Discord/Steam group for getting content runs in?
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>>382169530
>tfw can clear laksmi multiple times easy
>only beat susan once
Why is lakshmi easier than susanoo for some people?
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>>382166618
>refers to as "Princess" multiple times
>"I'm actually the princess, not my friend bet you didn't know that"
hmm
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>>382169172
wait, what? you can instant max level now?

but wouldn't that fuck me on the ultimate weapon quest and the attunements for the final dungeons? im seeing that you get all the story quests completed and a set of 60 gear, but that doesn't include the ultimate weapon quest, does it?

>>382169363
yeah, but honestly i did more or less the same thing in vanilla, went from 1-50 in the most hardcore grinding ive done in my life, skipping nearly every cutscene and video. im mainly playing for the end game dungeons and chocobo racing
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>>382169665
Is it? I havent even tried so that's great news

ill probably have to go back to susan for the mount but i might just wait til next expac and unsync it
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>>382169226
>No hurricane kick like he can do
>No thousand fists like Hamon can do
>No glowing aura like everyone has
Why
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>>382169665

Everything she does can be recovered from if only one or two people mess up. She's also incredibly predictable and there are never any surprises with who she targets or who has to do what. Susano'o isn't very difficult either but a player spacing out can cause a domino of failures that lead to wiping fairly quickly.
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>>382169768
You think yourself at that level? Pfft, you're still too green.
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>>382169530
I'm envious on like a whole day tanking I only managed 1clear. The boss is easy as fuck. The only reason I didn't off myself is because I went full DUDE WEED LMOA until I cleared.

Tanks please provoke during the cast of the tank buster so he doesn't slap my ass with an auto as I'm switching also shirk is godlike for 8 man's please use it fellow tanks
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>>382169667
>try to ruse you at the end
>character acts rused
I was just thinking that all those lizard people look alike.
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>>382169992
We're certainly better than a pair of shit cats who are still in training
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Are there any PVP AFK linkshells on Balmung? I need to not get kicked off the game when I afk in pvp.
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>Games version of Korea is a bunch of deformed people with skin cancer that have a backwards ass culture and refuse to help you after you helped them
What did Japan mean by this
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>>382169992
>Cats who are still training get the glow as well
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>>382169768
Ex-Monk main here. Hamon is fucking back for the MNK quests?
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Does anyone on Primal need leveling or 50/60 roulette? Tank here.
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When will they implement FFXV music fanservice into this game. I'd love to listen to older final fantasy music ingame.
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>>382170253
Yes
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>>382168002
>gunblader tank job
This is all I need.
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What jobs are they adding next expansion?
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>>382170198

they're Mongolians you retarded faggot
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>>382170198
>korea
nigga they're mongolians
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>>382170379
Dancer and Puppeteer. The job trainers will be a traveling troupe that moves between hubs every week
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I bet one of you are in here.
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>mfw 40th percentiles tried to argue that shirk was useless a week ago

And you dickweeds are still complaining about SCH.
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>>382167249
you'll accept my triple enchanted moulinet and like it Tankslut
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Wish they rework Palace of the Dead into a Seraphic Gate kind of thing. So you could fight characters from other FFs while in the dungeon.
Setser, Seifer, Kuja, Auron, Cloud. Fuck login and just have fun leveling up!
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DIE DIE DIE
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>>382162738
Cute miqote girls
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>>382170430
>>382170446
They're obviously korean, but only mongolian in culture. So his question still stands, faggots.
>pigooks detected
kys yourselves blight upon humanity
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>wiped my party for the first time because i got greedy with MUH DPS
>told myself i'd never be one of those people

im so ashamed
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>>382170815
Its like all my namedays come at once
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>>382170815
WE GO TOGETHER
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>>382170569
I love big, thick, buttery garlic toast.
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I want to roll a healer this time

What job, AST, SCH or WHM?
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succor
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>>382170878
What role?
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>>382170907
AST or WHM. SCH is and feels like shit, it's a cuck class now.

>>382170974
succor i hardly know her
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>>382170907
SCH is pretty boring but you get another job leveled for free with it. The other two are more effective at the moment and more fun to play
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>>382170978
Probably a healer.
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>it's pretty much mandatory and considered the "norm" to read a fucking guide or watch a video on an encounter before you even do it just so you can do it optimally despite there being zero death penalty

Why?
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>>382171039
I'm planning to do this as well. Smn looks effective and easy to play for a free dps.
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>>382171163
because of tryhards
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>>382170978
dps
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>>382171039
>>382171012
It'll be between AST and WHM then. Are they both equal or is there a preference of one over the other
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>>382168685
We've lost out on trials far more than dungeons. HW only had the 3 3.0 MSQ mode primals, the warring triad, and one 3.x MSQ trial, while ARR had 3 2.0 MSQ primals, 3 2.x MSQ primals, 3 sidequest trials, 2 other 2.x MSQ trials, and Odin. Admittedly some of that is because the first few primals were reused 1.x assets, but shit still sucks.
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>>382171253
HOW?
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>>382170907

AST is king of everything, for now. WHM is boring but effective. SCH is for leveling SMN quickly.
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>>382171284
AST is blatantly better. WHM is still really good though.
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>>382171163

Just say you watched/read a guide and go in blind. Most people don't quiz you on it. Only shitters and idiots think that watching someone else do it will get you a clear on the first go with a bunch of other first-timers.
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>>382171163
If you want to go into an Extreme/Savage fight blind, then put up your own PF for a blind learning run.
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Wew lads, no wonder Yoshida thought it'd be fine to add two DPS classes.
※Data is from right before Stormblood.
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>>382171319
>SCH is for leveling SMN quickly.

Damn it's funny because it's true
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>>382171546
What's this from?
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>>382170815
RIP AND TEAR
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>>382171163
>death penalty
death penalty being wasting my fucking time

When you have shit like roulettes and all that jazz, this is inevitable. All content needs to be completed ASAP and if you aren't keeping up, everyone is going to hate you.

Maybe try and find a FC that's all about doing stuff blind.
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>leveling PLD
>remember that while even basic ass PLD can be fun in single target fights playing PLD in high level dungeons is the fucking worst
Why didn't they just replace Flash with an attack that does damage fuck
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>>382171685
YOU W I L L DIE
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>>382171546
Have you got one that divides popularity of race?
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>>382171319
>>382171482
Guess I'll pick up AST
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>>382171546
>roles look pretty evenly spread among the population for our 1:1:2 ratios
>better only add new classes for one of the roles
shamufuru disuprayu *commits sedoku*
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>>382171669
It's the raw data from FFXIV Census.

>>382171789
>divides popularity of race?
Which means?
Race repartition you mean?
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>>382170106
>>382170228
And you aren't? What makes you believe, despite them being in training, you are above them? Hmph, you kids are 100 years too early to be thinking those things, get back to training!
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>>382171730
You get a damage aoe ability now at like 52 or something.
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>>382171534
>If you want to go into an Extreme/Savage fight blind, then put up your own PF for a blind learning run.

See? There's this weird attitude again.

What's the matter, not playing the game optimally enough for you?
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>>382171730
>my face when I go looking when I get Total Eclipse and find out it's level 46 and I never put it on my hotbar
No matter it felt like everyone was looking at me like a retard when I tried to speedrun Sohm Al
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>>382171903
I guess I mean that. I've been up for a while.
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>>382171167
SMN is pretty strong right now but it is probably one of the least forgiving dps in the game at the moment. A lot of your damage is locked behind your burst phases which you can mess up do to a number of factors if you aren't planning for it or things go wrong.

>>382171284
AST has access to one of several buffs locked behind rng every 30 seconds or 60 seconds to modify it to last longer, act stronger, or apply to the whole party at lower strength. One of the buffs, The Balance, is the most powerful group damage buff in the game. So they are in very high demand and their healing abilities are respectable very strong mitigation tools and moderate healing output. WHM has the best map management of the three healers as well as relatively high sustainable personal damage and a pleathora of powerful healing tools so they're the best in dungeons. It's the best at unfucking your group's mistakes so it's very good for raid progression.
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>>382171721
>All content needs to be completed ASAP

What pure cancer.
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>>382170446
I'm talking about the raen
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>>382171301
susan ex, by not moving for the mech?
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>>382172080
It's an MMO, not sure what you expected. Almost the entire genre just tests your patience with tedium, eventually most people break and just want everything completed as quick as can be done.
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>>382170873
Why should the Xaela help?.
They only did now because I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN.
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MNKbros, i'm conflicted. I want to keep leveling my MNK, but SAM looks so damn enticing
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>>382171294
>It's okay that they've gone from 2/3 new primal fights per patch because the only reason they could do it in 2.0/2.1/2.2 was because they have 1.x assets to reuse!

>They've since added Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, Ultros/Typhon, Chrysalis, two different versions of Gilgamesh, Bismarck, Ravana, Sephirot, Sophia, Zurvan, and Thordan, some of which only have one difficulty level and none of which have more than two difficulty levels, when three is absolutely fine as evidenced by Titan/Garuda/Ifrit making 2.1 one of the best odd-numbered patches to this day

Just make a Leviathan and Ravana Extremer for level 70, Yoshi
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>>382170873
>imbyling the raen aren't the gooks
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>>382162332
why is the birdy missing it's claw thing
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>>382171546

I know it's not statistically significant, but the fact that NA has the most DPS players and JP the least amuses me a little.

So less than half the population play DPS as their main, but only slightly. I thought it'd be at least 50%.
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>>382171972
Because i want to farm it faggot.
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>>382172007
Can do.
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>>382171829
Don't WHM look way cuter than shitty AST
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>>382171972
Why do you think that people who have already learned a fight automatically owe you their time or should be obligated to teach it to you or sit there carrying you until you learn it?
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>>382168882
Where were you faggots when pld and mnk were ruined in HW?
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just visited the enclave again, miss my party members already
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>>382162332
>It started out with so much promise. So much hope.
What in the fuck are you talking about? XIV was terrible when it started out. It's amazing that they managed to turn that train wreck around, and not at all surprising that they couldn't keep it up before it turned back into shit.
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>>382172612
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>>382172612
fat cat
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>pull 3 packs of mobs
>some shithead dps sits there single targeting them instead of aoeing
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE TANKING
JUST
BE GOOD
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>>382172638
>JPN
>full of potatoes
jesus 2 nukes were not enough
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>>382172612
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>>382172612
Ugly Duckling
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>>382172358
Then play monk.
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>>382172769

Doman Enclave is going to be the gradual rebuilding Colony 6 of this game similar to how Idyllshire was developed over time.
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>>382172612
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>>382172886
>aoeing at less than 4+ mobs

why?
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Is the story in this game even worth paying attention to?
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>>382172638
All those cats. I feel ill.
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>>382162332
4 years later like 20% of my friends list play it.

You may not like it but its super popular.
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>>382173087
you friends list is biased

When I played battlefield 90% of my friends list played it. When I played siege 90% of my friends list played it.
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>>382172996
Mother of god that samurai af is so fucking bad. Holy shit. It's just a fucking robe for fucks sake.
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>>382172638

Not surprised JP has more Potato players. They're all about cute shit.

Why are cats so popular? They're just humans with animal ears and tails. The males don't ever look good either thanks to shitty poses and face options. The females look like soulless dolls with glass eyes. I don't really have anything against them but I don't understand why they're the most popular race either.
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>>382172792
>Obedient
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>>382172792
>Behavior: Obedient
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>>382172996
I wish that was true, but I thought Rhaglr's Reach is the new Idllyshire considering the traders and such.
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>>382173025
If you're not paying attention to the story you might aswell not even play this. Not even joking.
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>>382170198
>>382172321
The Xaela only helped because they're nothing but fight-happy primitives.

Why should Sui no Sato help? They don't bother the empire, the empire doesn't bother them. People who go "waah the Raen didn't help" are just as dumb and naive as Lyse. "hey there's a war we brought ourselves into you have to HELP US RIGHT NOW". That's surely going to work out.
At Rhalgr's Reach the game even gives the WoL a similar response to the Raen: "it doesn't have shit to do with me". And they would be right.
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>>382172070

>SMN is pretty strong right now but it is probably one of the least forgiving dps in the game at the moment

xd? More like the most forgiving. If you can't figure out how and when to pop your permanent buffs and figure out the 15s in which to use all your aetherflow stacks, then you're beyond help.
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>>382172886
>pull large
>notice my healer is a sch
>die
Wish there was a way to filter claases in DF you don't want to play with
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Im level 31 and got a crap ton of Walnut Lumber. What would be the most efficient use for it both leveling and money wise?
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>>382173310
It is but whats there to build in Rhaglr? Fucking nothing, maybe the Doman Enclave will have some type of content to promote the change.
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Lakshmi Ex was easy, coming from a total shitter.
When Susanoo hits you with tankbuster, there is no warning, suddenly you just lack 90% of your HP.
Lakshmi on the other hand is just like "here comes some damage, just in case you need to do some preparations, take your time, no rush."
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>>382173020
>three packs of mobs
>one pack = 3 - 4 enemies
You're retarded
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>next expansion adds 1 tank and 1 healer, but no dps
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>>382173381

You mean Walnut logs?
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>>382173452
Susano charges for his tankbuster in the 3rd phase.
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>>382173495
No, lumber, I had like 200 logs and then turned them into lumber. Im leveling Carpentry
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>>382173483

I would be perfectly okay with this, but DPS mains would probably be pissed. And they're the majority of the playerbase.
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>>382173571
Do the Ixali crafting quests.
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>queue for Aurum Vale
>10m wait time
>queue for Kugane Castle
>45m wait time

Why is this?
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>>382173652
I am, but I'm trying to figure out what to do with all this lumber I have
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>>382173629
Dps main and I dont care and neither do the others, we are in a good spot now
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Well, my plan to finish my anima before my sub drops off in 3 days has been delayed by this GIGANTIC FUCKING PATCH HOLY SHIT. Downloading anything on PS4 is suffering.
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>>382173663
Because new jobs start at level 50 and they usually level to 60 in potd
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>>382173629
>>382173483
1 MP tank, 1 pet tank, 2 healers, 1 physical ranged DPS.
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>>382173663
You need autumn vale to advance your GC rank and all the jump potion shitters are playing catch up and to retarded to know it can be unsynced
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>>382173663
The wave of players that started in EA are all stuck there just like you.
>just hit the Xaela dungeon
>only waited 5m as DPS
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>>382173663
Every tank and healer main has grinded enough verity to buy everything there is to buy for all jobs. There is no reason for them to be doing the lvl 70 dungeons anymore.
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>>382173629
I'd rather tanks and healers get something new. Keeps it fresh.
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>>382172612
Otter

If I can fucking get it
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Why did you quit playing Dragoon, /v/?
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>>382172612
>take Bluebird
>make it even more adorable
How can other minions even compete?
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>>382174159
because they are shit now, 4 eyes to enter kaioken mode was a mistake.
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>>382168370
flopped in Korea
russian servers have officially shut down
Aeria has officially ended talks of publishing the game in the US

It's dead. Too many fundamental problems need to be fixed and they just never will be
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>>382172413
Leviathan is from 1.x as well, even though it didn't have any kind of fight there.
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>>382174114
Can people actually stand grinding same dungeons more than once per day for roulette.
I feel like short queues might even applify that burnout for dungeons.
>>
I'm fucking lost. Where is the warrior class quest guy at for SB+?
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Why can I not see harvest points on the big map...why only the fucking minimap!!!
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>>382174472
People don't even do roulette that much anymore according to Yoshida. And with PVP now, who would?
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>>382173867
I had a DRG in aurum today who did literally nothing except his 1-2-3 combo
No jumps, no heavy thrust, no doom spike

Just 1-2-3
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>>382174159

I never quit. And i love the changes especially starting from mid 60's. Having two refreshes to my Blood of the Dragon in a single combo now only increases my damage output and keeps me buffed.
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>>382174480
I'm going to guess google.
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>>382164317
Oh boy I had a fucking terrible time last night:
>trial roulette with my tank buddy
>we joke about getting menagerie
>it fucking happens
>"oh well, extra verity I guess"
>he ready checks
>I notice we have new people though, so I ASK if anyone wants a mechanics rundown
>astro says (verbatim) "it seems like the only one who needs a rundown is you"
>I have never been angrier playing this game in my entire life
>so we end up starting
>he wipes to tidal wave immediately
>I ask him if he needs a mechanics rundown
>he leaves
Holy fuck it was infuriating, at least it ended well. We got a clear without him
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>>382171163
shit like this is why I stopped playing years ago

well that and playing Black Desert made me incredibly intolerant to invisible walls. Fucking zoneloading is pure torture for me now
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>>382174643
He's not at any of the 4 places google says
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>>382174159
They keep adding more and more shit to keep up to actually do damage. What was wrong with stabbing things and jumping, why do I need swirly dragons and eyes of angry
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>>382174639
I'm only level 62, how exactly does Lance Mastery work? Do you just get F&C/WT directly after the opposing one?
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>>382174673
>he wipes to tidal wave immediately
>I ask him if he needs a mechanics rundown
>he leaves
That must have been, cathartic.
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been laughing at this SAM in my Doma Castle runs name for like 15 minutes

he would also use meditate for the full 15s in the middle of a fight. he was a hero
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>>382174592
I've done a lot more Frontlines than ever before since SB.
Only downside in it is do I play with my main to get tomes or with alt to get exp?
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>>382174842
It was cathartic as hell but it didn't wash the taste of that first part out of my mouth. Fucking hate some of the people that play this game
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I swear to god I'm going to climb that fucking tower if it's the last thing I do.
I don't even normally do the sightseeing log, I just refuse to beaten by a damn jump puzzle.
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>>382174346
LMAO
thats for telling me
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>>382174673
>>he wipes to tidal wave immediately
I did that trial blind and it was pretty obvious to me, what to do when everyone runs to one side of the arena.
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>>382166198
oh no, not casuals! the horror...
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>>382174984
It's the easiest mechanic to avoid. Any situational awareness will help you not die
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>>382172612
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>>382174975
kill it
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Is PvP really the fastest way for a DPS to farm Verity?
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People weren't exaggerating about these SCH changes, what the hell.
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>>382174779

Yeah. For every combo of Impulse Drive/Disembowel/Chaos Thrust and True Thrust/Vorpal Thrust/Full Thrust you complete you get a free Wheeling thrust/Fang and Claw on top of either as an additional combo action to them. Meaning you just another 20 seconds back on the Blood of the Dragon clock.
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>>382175256
no
get a pocket tank :^)
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>>382175113
>see he's going to do tidal wave move
>figure it's a pushback and stay close to him
>get shoved off the side
And that's the start of how I died 5 times getting carried to a no wipe clear of Royal Menagerie
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>>382175204
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Name one redeeming quality of lyse that isnt about her looks
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>>382175290
Oh, nice. Is which one you get randomly decided?
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>>382171163
You fucking what? There are phase 1 learning parties everywhere, and you can even DF for phase 1 practice
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>>382172612
Any answer that isn't Morpho is wrong
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>SCH gutted beyond recognition
>First two dungeons have been corridors (very pretty corridors i must say) with barely any mechanics
>MSQ has Lyse everywhere who is a potato faced, far less likeable Yda whose entire personality is 'muhh ala migho' and 'i'm a dumb blonde lolxd'
>Massive, massive queue times even after a week, WoW wasnt even this bad

I just cant get motivated to play anymore really. I get that AST is super duper OP but its just not a fun class to play honestly. Is tanking any better? SAM and NIN are fine to play but the DPS life just blows
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>>382175430
She is passionate for her cause.
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>>382175430
She will be the perfect puppet to place as the mhiggers "Queen" to further the WoL's dominion over the land.
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>>382175430
I like brash, kinda dumb girls who punch first ask questions later.
What is a problem is making someone like that a leader figure.
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>>382175374
this happened to me as well
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>>382175430
She used to look like Yda
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>>382175452

No. It alternates between both combos. Wheeling Thrust into Fang and Claw from the first combo and Fang and Claw into Wheeling Thrust from the latter.
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I'm playing Samurai and I got bitched out by my party for using AoEs whenever there were at least 3 mobs (I do single target when there's 2 or less) and that I shouldn't use them unless there's 4 at the minimum. Is that true?
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>>382175452
Yes.
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>>382174673

If you want real suffering, you should do Mentor Roulette with in-progress checked.

>Want 30 Verity to get my pants so hop into Mentor Roulette, since it's usually Guildhests or trials with a d/c member
>Get an in-progress Aurum Vale, about 40 min in
>Tank and one of the DPS are new
>Notice they haven't cleared the first boss yet
>Ask what they are stuck on and if they want advice
>Silence
>Tank just walks up to the boss and auto-attacks it
>new DPS stands in yellow
>Tell them to cut that shit out and explain the mechanics
>DPS listens but tank is oblivious, stands there occasionally using Rage of Halone and Flash
>end up wiping
>Repeat this 3 times
>Experienced DPS with the patience of a saint finally leaves
>Vote abandon goes through as soon as another DPS shows up and leaves right away

Never again.
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>>382175620
Alright, so at least it's predictable.
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>>382175430
She's Tifa but blonde.
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>tfw used a minion and didn't realize until later that it was worth half a mil
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>>382175641
Add up the potencies.
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>>382173020
Because holy is free.
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It's a super minor complaint but i hate the fact that Lakshimi and Susano stuff is just called "Susano's/Lakshimi's X of Y". Why did they get lazy? What happened to Sophic, of the Horde, Round, Zurvanite, Fiendish? Why not call it Blissfull earrings or Longsword of the Revel? Susano's Longsword just sounds so dumb.
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>>382175675
holy shit
someone photoshop her fucking hair blond
we need to see
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>>382175641
Yes, probably, especially as a low level SAM without Guren.

The abilities cost a hell of a lot, and bursting down just 1 of those 3 targets with Midare would make life a lot easier on the healer who can then contribute to dps.

AOE in this game kinda blows
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>>382175585
>What is a problem is making someone like that a leader figure.
Because she did literally fuck-all during the entire story other than go "WAAAAAH WHY DONT THESE PEASANTS JUST GO FIGHT THE GARLEANS?"

she's the eorzia equivalent of a a dumb white suburban
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>>382175706
>selling your minions
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>>382175641
literally do the potency/GCD calculations yourself you mong.
in general, 3 is the breaking point for when AoEs start becoming effective
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>>382175485
Do your side quests while waiting on queues.
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>>382175578
Speaking of the WoL, did anyone save the Madara copypasta but with the WoL + samurai skills someone posted in one of the last threads? It was pretty good.
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>>382175667
My soul hurts
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>>382171163
One on side, I get it, you want that fresh experience.

At the same time, it takes all of 5 minutes to watch a video. Especially if you have wiped a few times, just go watch one and tell fools what to do.
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I'm levelling really slowly because i stupidly promised my wageslave friend i'd do the MSQ with him

what's the current endgame tasks? I hear EX primals give the best weapons, and verity gets the best gear? So just do various roulettes for Verity - buy gear - go do EX Primals and do Hunts for VI Materia?
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>>382175430
She isnt Yshtola
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>>382171908
Obviously we are
>"Help we just got our asses beat by a bunch of anti-monk soldiers, train us in the way of the Pugilist"
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>>382176028
Don't forget PVP gives tomes.
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>>382176007

I don't care about how long it takes to do something, this game is supposed to be entertainment.
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>>382175641
No, use your AoEs until Invigorate is on CD, and before your TP goes low enough so that you can swap to single target rotation without running out of TP.
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>>382176028
If you're going slow there will probably be Omega as well by the time you hit 70.
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>>382170815

I'd have a felt a lot more for this guy if he hadn't been comic relief

I kinda wish he and Fordola had switched places
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>>382174159
I'm never giving up Dragoon and i love the idea of going double nidhogg mode but Life of the Dragon is so fucking shitty. 70% of the times you won't actually be able to activate it because of boss mechanics and when you actually do you get a fucking 350 potency thing maybe 2 times. Meanwhile Samurai can cast midare setsugekka for 720 potency every 20 seconds or so.
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>>382176028
Pretty much yeah. If you like gil, start leveling culinarist
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>>382176007

I'm a firm believer in doing first runs blind. If you can't understand shit once you fail it a few times, by all means look it up. But that guy should make a "blind run, no experience necessary" PF if he wants that experience. I joined a few when I was starting out with EX primals and the the people in them are usually more patient and understanding. The guys who want you to watch videos before going in are probably itching to get it done and farm it as fast as possible. Blind prog groups are there to experience the fight and learn it as they go. Nothing wrong with either but there are more speed runners than than people who want to sit down and learn it bit by bit.
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tfw no au' ra to blast my load into on a nightly basis
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>>382176309
Go to bed Magnai
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>>382176309

>>>/vg/
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Damn I love Kugane. So comfy place to craft, almost as good as Gridanias market place at night.
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I just can't stand Lyse, or ala mhigo

I just cant stand it, everyone else cares but I just cant give a fuck
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>>382176261

the guys who insist upon videos and the like are looking to get carried.

they believe that since they need a video, everyone does
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>>382176309
I'd rather Mango Pineapple tbqh.
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>>382176309
>he dips below 60 FPS
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>>382176141
No. She would've ruined it.
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>all these drop order parties popping up

lootmaster was a mistake
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>>382176309
>nightly
Weak dick shit, if you can't get it up 5+ times a day you're no man. Get the fuck out of here kiddo.
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>>382176438
I don't care either. It's clear the budget of the expac went to Othard.
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>>382176438

I cared about Ala Mhigo when it was Raubhan, Conrad, that one scion that has the echo, hell even the ananta ladies
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>>382172612
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>>382168489
ARR's 9 jobs were more unique, fun and useful than SB's 15 jobs.

Even if we were to ignore that, ARR had both "experimental content" and the core content.

ARR was ten times better than what we have now. Hell, just watch them add only Shinryu extreme in 4.1 and then compare to 2.1's 4 (FOUR) trials.

>>382168761
Yes, I've played arcanists since launch so I'm especially salty over the prunes. However, it doesn't stops there. All jobs were simply better designed in ARR, rotations were set in stone but messing them up wouldn't cost you literal minutes of damage (except for MNK) and in some cases, rotations completely changed depending on context.

Meanwhile, tanks and healers had unique qualities and a ridiculous high skill cap due to them being somewhat limited in what they could do, requiring you to both know your limits and rely on your partner to cover such limits.

People didn't like bringing 2 SCH to Titan because eventually, stomps would overwhelm the party. Can you imagine something like that today? Now they force variety through dumb LB bar nerfs instead of job design.
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THANKS YOSHI
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>>382176423
Kugane is pretty damn great.
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>>382176505
Delet this
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Presented without comment.
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>>382176508
>Heh.
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>>382172612
Blizzaria! Blizzaria!!
She's CUTE!!!
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>>382174630
the number of BLM players I've seen spamming Fire III in levelling dungeons amazes me. It's like they just see the bigger numbers and think "ah an upgrade". And then there's the ones that just spam blizzard.
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I'm pretty new to FFXIV so I wanted to ask about patches:
How much content for ARR would a SB patch had? Or is it going to be 100% SB content?
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>>382172612
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>>382172638
>24.84% of Lalafell
Japan must be hell
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>>382176679
it's nice to have but it isn't expected bub
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>>382175667
Did a leveling roulette last night, buddy went on his gfs account to get her to 30... we queue into Toto rak and we get two new players - Tank and a DPS, DRK and ACN respectively.
>zone in and buff
>tank does nothing but sit there and spam emotes for a good minute or so
>Tell my buddy over voice we'll just go without him then
>start pulling, the dumbfucks catch up
>DRK starts telling us to stop pulling and let him lead
>Tell him to do it, fall back and let him pull
>few pulls later he just stops moving, runs to the side of the hall
>buddy says fuck this and starts pulling
>DRK and ACN sit down and start flooding chat with emotes at him
>Heal dude through the tainted louses
>Ask if they feel like participating in the dungeon
>DRK starts ranting about how we're not "respecting his role"
>we do another couple pulls without dumb and dumber before I say fuck this I'm not feeding them EXP all dungeon
>Ask again if they feel like doing their jobs or if they're just going to AFK the dungeon
>Dude talks about demanding "respect for his role"
>clear trash until buddy gets his level
>leave
What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>382176714
This was in Castrum Abania
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>>382176679
BUB
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>>382176597

I wouldn't be mad at yoshi if he stopped adding jobs altogether and just focused more on actually balancing them, we're at a good amount now

I'll take quality over quantity any day of the week
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>>382176615
The difference in these two pictures is that you haven't done any of the objectives in the bottom one while the first one i close to completion
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>>382176725

You must be new to MMOs too. Read the patch notes- they tell you which system updates and such apply to which version of the game. Major overhauls like the class/job changes apply to all versions, while new content is only accessible to the SB.
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>>382176713
>tfw grinded for all the minions and weapons
>never use them
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>>382162332
>A year of welfare updates due to the team being called in to help XV's development
>Most ideas lifted from DQX, WoW and XI meaning game comes off feeling derivative
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>>382176597
I understand. I don't like the dumbing down of classes. I always think they should buff classes that are falling off to help the catch up to the ones that are considered 'OP'
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currently too poor to get the expansion but I've been looking forward to it. Is it bad or something?
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>>382176843
holy fuck I think i read a forum post about this, hahahahah
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>>382176854
boost potions were a mistake.
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>>382168680
Alphinaud but not for long,
he gonna get some french fries on the side soon
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>>382167249

Sup tanks? Can't keep up?
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>enter a zone
>Soken's cheap bagpipe vst starts blaring again
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>>382177004

Alphinaud was getting laid in school anon. His girlfriends would confuse him with Alisaie. I like to think that she let it go a little too far before she told them off
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>>382176961
I love it. But then again I'm just a dumb weeb
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>>382176903
its a bait image just ignore it
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>>382177085
DELEET THIS
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>>382177085
I hope you enjoy shirk.
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>>382176961

It's more of the same
>>
>jobber makes a jobber dragon
>get captured and controlled by the people he was supposed to destroy
The eternal mhigger.
King Manfred, King Theodoric, Ilberd, jobbers.
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>>382168498
Did the enmity generation from DA power slash get buffed? It feels useful now.
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>>382176309
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
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>>382176843

Different people play the game for different reasons, and they also have different playstyles. But if you queue into something via DF you don't fucking waste other people's time by RPing or faffing about in the middle of the dungeon until you feel like moving on.

It's like the rare time I got an RP group that insisted on walking everywhere, single pulling each group and spamming chat with macros for skills like Provoke and Swiftcast. Fuck right off with that, get a full party if you want to do that shit.
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I want to play tank, should I go PLD or is it still boring as fuck?
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>>382176615
>>382176903
>>382177126
Erm, don't you notice they are both COMPLETED QUESTS?
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>>382172612
friendship ENDED with PUFF OF DARKNESS
now GHIDO is my BEST MINION
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>>382177256
No, Omega beat Shinryu then imprisoned it and fuck off out of our reality before we could shut it down.
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>>382176714
>be blm and see this
>hey if you use fire you will do more damage and you can use bliz III to get full stacks
>continues to spam fire III and use trans
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>>382177319
I'm getting affected by this shitty community since I really wanna see that guy get together with the crazy chick from that undead tribe
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>changed the sprint animation for mch to hold the guns like a rifle and it looks great
>keep the fucking retarded one handed animations for walking and shooting though

W H Y
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What is the funnest tank? Not looking to do ex primals with it, just mainly dungeons.
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>>382176985
Huh, someone bitching that we weren't tolerant of other playstyles or something? neither of us use the OF.
>>382177328
It's not like they were even RPers, the tank just sat around slapping people instead of doing anything.
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>>382176961

If you liked HW, SB probably won't disappoint you. If you were hoping for something different, wait until we start getting the new content that's supposed to replace a dungeon in odd patches before deciding whether or not to buy it.
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>>382177536
SAM
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>>382177483
the sexual tension was laid on so thick between them even the thickest of autists picked up on it, anon.
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Best boy makes best return
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>>382170370
I'm sure that it'll happen, Yoshi already showed interest on it and as SB is proving, not adding cool tank jobs is necessary.
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>Every time your boy shows up the story becomes x10 better

This is why Heavensward > Stormblood.
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>>382177797
Should I watch the crystal tower cutscenes? I know he's in them and skipped them all
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>>382177807
adding cool tank jobs is necessary*
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>>382177589

They might have been a couple that queued together and thought it was SO FUNNY to stop and do stupid shit with each other when me and the other guy just want to get in and get out. I've had them before too. Usually potato players, for some reason.
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>>382177895
>and skipped them all
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>>382177483

He'll be up in that Mol hole in 2 patches or less
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He didn't deserve this...
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>>382177978

I don't care about lizard romance drama, I just want a reason to go back to the Steppes and fly around again.
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>>382177972
I went in for some FC event, the leader was like "you two people have 22 other people waiting on you so please skip"
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>>382177483
everyone wants to plow the crazy chick

when she started screaming about her soul and shit my dick went nuts
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>>382177894
But my boy is dead, so how could he show up?
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>>382178094
Thats unfortunate. Yeah you should watch them in the inn, they start off a bit boring but by the end shit gets very intense. Best boy NERO is front and center for a lot of it.
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>>382177991

TIP AND RARE
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>>382169051
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>>382177991
no more namedays
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>>382178301
JUST
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>>382175667
That's a bot
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>>382177097
Bagpipes sound great if done right. Fuck Idyllshire though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQAJVDkoWc
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How viable is using a controller for end game raids and what not?
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>>382178120
i hope she dies
and falls in that coin hole that severs their reincarnation cycle forever
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>>382178301
:(
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>>382176679

wow
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>>382175667
>Silence
>Tank just walks up to the boss and auto-attacks it
Just reading this makes my blood boil
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>>382178301
Couldn't hate him because of his comic relief role, so his death was more sad than triumphant.
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>>382177978
Nope. Cirina already had some dialogue about the moon and sun never running into each other when talking about Hien. Talking to npc's before continuing the MSQ gives context to a lot of things. Lyse pretty much apologies for doing dumb things pretty much all the time yet still does dumb things
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>>382162332
>MMO comes out
>another generic MMO but instead of something we don't know FF's name is plastered on it
MMO's are pretty much all grindy garbage Albion online looks pretty fresh
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>>382176769
Race stereotypes are meaningless on Jap servers apart from the comedy bara roe.
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>>382178371
It's fine
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>>382177097
>hating bagpipes
get out ree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaGaGqejQqI
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>>382177536
DRK
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>>382178301
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>>382178358

He actually replied though when I told him how to pull the boss. He had no idea what shield oath did for him, or what shield lob was, but asked what I meant when I told him to run up, shield lob, and keep running until the boss turns around. Turned on Sheild Oath when I explained it made him do his job better too.

Some people are just inconceivably bad.
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>>382178371

it's just another means to an end, the name of the game is muscle memory. buy a house and practice your rotation on a dummy every day and you'll be better than nearly every player you come across
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>>382178447
>Forcing somebody to take a 30 minute penalty because you want to go extremely slow

Is this not bannable
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>>382178482
There's a reason why the WoL doesn't cheer at the victory fanfare.
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>>382178447
Why would anyone blank the name? People like that deserve the abuse they get.
>>
Does anyone even like dungeons?
I feel like they're just there because they're a genre staple.
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>>382178447
this sounds kinda fun d e s u
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>>382178447
>pull nonstop
>ruin their rp
>get kicked
>join another run without retards
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how long would it take to level a crafter/gather class to cap?
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>>382178447
Should've just stayed and reported them if they kicked you XD
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>>382178728
are you dumb? they're the best part of leveling
especially in stormblood, the dungeons are fooken fantastic this time around. Doma castle is goat, same with Bardems Mettle.
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>>382178447
And that's when you afk and role play as someone that's getting carried
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>>382178728
I love all these dungeons. The only thing SB is better than HW at. FUck Yoshi.
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>>382178728
I enjoy them, but there are too many. At the end of this patch cycle there will be 64.
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>>382178447
>>382176564

If you want to quit now's the time to do it

I can only see it getting worse
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Is it possible to get the sawed off shotty that the maelstrom leader uses?
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>>382178447
RP as an asshole adventurer who pulls the whole room and doesnt use CDs
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Is ACT useable right now?
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>>382178960
what kind of complaint is this? theres too much content??
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>>382178772
This reminded me to go check up on Urianger.
He has some minor dialogue about how both Lyse and Moenbryda likes martial arts and tests of strength.
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>>382178772
Dark Urianger was anime.
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>>382178728
I'm not against dungeons, but if all I'd rather look forward to something new and different, even if it may be bad or unliked. I personally really like squadrons and enjoyed PotD and now PVP. Nothing can replace dungeons though, they gotta be there. But more non-dungeon content is fine with me.
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mfw cucking the roe in the warrior quests
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>>382178447
I fucking hate this server. I was tricked to come here by some friends and I would leave but I have a static and other friends who are here and would like to play with them despite how much I hate this place.
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>>382178776

Probably like 10 mins. 15 tops.
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>>382178772
Urianger is such a chunni neetfag.
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>>382178849
>same with Bardems Mettle.
What exactly was not shit about this dungeon?
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>>382179204
Second boss was maximum fun. Indiana Jones boulders. Really nice aesthetic from the start to the second boss.
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>>382179006
Only when you become leader of Limsa Lominsa.
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>>382179165
>tfw you see that dolly bitch shitting all over Kurogane /shout chat now too

why can't they just stay in their containment zone in ul'dah. fuck
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>>382179051
I'd rather they stop throwing money at more dungens. Almost anything would be better. As it is you can do weeks or even months of roulettes and not see them all, and fundamentally they're all the same content with different window dressing.
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>>382179329

>ARR Merlwyb has an awesome voice and makes grand speeches
>HW Merlwyb has her VA replaced and barely talks at all
>SB Merlwyb nods at everything

What did you do my Admiral, SE?
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>>382179319
>Second boss was maximum fun.
>Gold Saucer GATE EX was fun
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>>382179006
Travel back in time and somehow keep 1.0 from bombing, then wait for the 1.0 crew to finish making Musketeer.
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>>382179319

a lot of games are bringing that back

I was just playing that desert segment in persona 5 that had one too
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>>382178728
I don't like how they are always speedran. I wish I could take the time to explore them more.
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>tfw tank main
>want to kill myself because of 4.0 changes and disliking PLD the times Ive tried it beforehand

how are you other tank mains holding up?
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>>382179386

What am I looking at here? Your personal RP chat diary isn't exactly interesting or worth the time to read, Anon.
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>>382179515
>>Gold Saucer GATE EX was fun
Yes? That sounds fuckin gr8. My only complaint is that they didn't go far enough with it.
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>>382179428
Them and many other faggots are trying to turn kugane specifically the hot spring area to become the new rp area on this server. I am trying to convince all my friends to take the server transfer so we can get the fuck off here
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>>382179165
i see that fag all the time, what is with them
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>>382179574
found the /xivg/er
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>>382179559
PLD is great now though
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>>382179473
I'm waiting for Raubahn to fuck off so some of the other GC leaders can get an expansion in the spotlight.
>>382179559
I played PLD the most in 3.x so i'm happier than ever. The revert on the VIT damage sucks balls though. I want 12k Holy Spirit crits damn it.
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>>382162332

I played for about a month before the 2 expansions were released. One of the most beautiful MMOs I'd ever played but boring as fuck. Made it to level 60 or what ever the max level was and then realized I had to go through some insanely long quest chain to enjoy end game so I dropped it. I was playing a Paladin which might have made it more boring. Maybe if I was a DPS it would of been more exciting.

I just want a fucking MMORPG that doesn't hold your hand on a quest rail. There is nothing left to explore in MMOs these days it's just get quest complete quest move on to next quest. I have no idea how they can make it different but they need to if they ever want to grab the audience MMOs one claimed.
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>>382179386
>screencapping a pedophile
>but admitting you're RPing as a 12 year old and ERP on other characters
this is just awful all the way around
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>>382179559
DRK is real nigga business right now. Dunno how WAR is, I see them complaining all the fucking time though.
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WHAT THE FUCK DO I RAID ON

PLD
MCH
OR BRD
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>>382179730
PLD or BRD. MCH is kill
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>>382179730
PLD
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>>382179730
>MCH
cross this off your list immediately
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>>382179169
??? I mean from level 1.
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>>382179559

WAR is still fine. Still a satisfying class to play. Beast gauge stuff is different but solid once you get used to it. Glad I don't have to worry about stacks from Defiance anymore.

We also have the best class quests.
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>>382179801
Oh, maybe 20 then.
>>
I want to hear more Roulette-related stories, post 'em faggots. Especially ones with "they got what was coming to them" ones.

Amusing chat logs are welcome too.
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Does the /playdead emote set your HP to 0?
I just ran with a healer who kept dying (at least, their HP hits 0) and reviving on the spot. It's a 4man dungeon and no other party member has any form of raise.
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>>382179852
>We also have the best class quests.
>curious gorge and the bara squad v3
>best
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>>382179610
>Koji had jokes inserted specifically to ruin the mood at the hot springs
He didn't go far enough.
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What the fuck is up with these mount farm runs set to lootmaster
Every fucking farm is doing this now, people actually join this shit?
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>>382179801

If you're rich, hardly any time at all. You can buy HQ leve turn-ins from the MB. The only thing you have to craft yourself are the quest turn-ins.
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>>382180023
Make your own PF nigga.
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>>382179637
What I said is that I dislike the aesthetics of PLD and the gameplay of it. Being lightbulb isnt interesting on my opinion, preferred the berserker lifesteal gameplay more.

>>382179684
Heres to hoping for tank buffs for other two classes as well.

>>382179695
WAR got into cuckshed because no utility, no sustain, less DPS than PLD for more work. Seen DRKs being somewhat good though they could use some more power.

>>382179852
Im just mainly having issue with the stance change penalty which feels excessively punishing. Also the tank damage nerf and SB accs being useless kind of make WAR feel a pool noodle smacker at the current moment.

Bring back bloodbath, and the quests were quite cheesy

>>382179952
Did you do level 61-70 ones?
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What should I be doing for weapons after completing the ultimate weapon quest?
Are things like a relic reborn, atma, zodiac, etc still relevant or can I just buy the best weapon using tomestones?
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>>382180034
what if I am poor?
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>>382180023
I feel like the people that fall for this shit are the same type of people that click banner ads and open every email in their spam folder.
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>watching falling stars in the falling sea as chill music is playing
so this is what it means to be comfy
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>>382179932
>>
>>382180162
Enjoy the grind kid.
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>>382180095
No because everyone who joins would be a fucking retard, why wouldn't I just run with my FC
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>>382180205
Do you have an estimate on the number of hours?
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>>382172612
cute lil bird nigga.

hands down
>>
>chosen for dice
>chosen for dice again
>chosen for gaol
>right out of gaol instantly chosen as the first for stun thunder so I leave gaol and get stunned in the very next second
>chosen for dice again
ayy lmao
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>>382180296
A fuck ton.
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Why did they ruin Triple Triad?
In ARR you had mostly players with one or at most, two rules and only a few characters that are time locked. Come HW and extrension SB every single player is time locked with very short windows and all have at least 2 to 3 annoying rules.
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>>382177991
>tfw couldnt make him happy
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>>382180162

Sorry then you'll have to spend all your money on mats to craft shit yourself, or bot a DoL to gather materials then bot some more to crank out HQ leve turn-ins. If you don't buy gil or have a substantial sum saved, it's a chore.

I don't bot or buy gil and got all my crafters to 60 by 3.2. I was only able to do it because I was a NEET at the time- gathering shit, buying shit, and painstakingly HQing everything for double EXP turn-ins. I don't think I can manage it now.
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>>382179204
>anime poster has shit tastes
w-woah
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>>382180114

>Wyrnzoen asks if I had forgotten him
>WoL looks as confused as I did
>Had to look up who the MRD trainer was
>My face

I felt kind of bad. Sorry, boss.
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>>382175641
I've been feeling like SAM AoE is pretty floppy dick on 3 targets.

Single target trash mob cycle for SAM is what, 19s with (830+830+490+960+300+300)*1.1 plus whatever you get from slashing debuff

Multi-target in that time frame is 1.7 cycles of 300+300+540 to the first target, 285+285+486 to the second target, and 270+270+432 to the third target

4081+debuff vs. 5385. I think the problem is just that the single enemy centered cone AoEs suck fucking dick at hitting all targets, plus Kyuten is absolute shit outside of specialized situations.
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I fucking love my server. There's hardly any shitters at all, and RP is non-existent.

Tonberry best berry
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>>382171163

It might be fine if you go into a fresh learning party, but a lot of times you're just causing problems and wasting time for others who want to progress. I can completely understand wanting to do it fresh and blind, but not everyone has a ton of time to spend wiping multiple times.
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>>382180336
Shit like random made me stop giving a shit
It isn't random when the person you're trying to win against uses the same 5 cards every time and you're constantly using 1 star shit
Also you can't play anywhere, good job SE
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>>382180336
>im shit that means they ruined it
Is there anything you people wont fucking complain about?

Not a single NPC in SB is time locked.
Theres literally 6 npcs to beat in SB, only one of them is remotely difficult. They've made significant improvements from the struggle that was the 4 hour windows in HW. fucking get fucking good, they literally nerfed the bad rulesets because people complained enough, and you're still complaining.

Also ARR had Landenel, AKA the most difficult experience next to Rowena.
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>>382180424
Is there a such thing as crafting/gathering parties?
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CAN WE TONE DOWN THE VOLUME OF STONE IV

ITS LITERALLY ALL I HEAR AS A MELEE DPS

All i want to hear as melee, is a SAMs Midare Setsuge
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>>382180114
But PLD isn't lightbulb anymore, it's spin to win.

>spins for aggro
>spins for DoT
>spins for damage
>spins for AoE
>spin your sword for party shields
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>>382180513

I recommend anyone to play on a jp datacenter in general if your internet is good enough
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>>382180637
I'll retract on SB but in no way will I believe you seriously defend HW's shit. Let me just go practice my random chaos deck and activate my rng card reward script.
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>>382180693

Gathering, yes, or at least there were in HW. Diadem was shit for DoW/DoM but DoL could sit in there all day and gather rare mats.

As for leveling, not really. It's a very solo activity. I never felt so isolated as when I was leveling those jobs.
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>>382180881
There are THREE NPCs in HW that have the random rule. Three.
One has reverse, so its not even hard.
There is only one Random/Chaos NPC in the game, and she is meant to be stupid fucking hard because she rewards three of the rarest cards in the game.
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>>382181059
Good that you neglected to mention the time periods.
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>>382180965
I just wish I could hold a button to gather. It would make it so much less tedious.
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>>382181059

that one chick in the gold saucer?
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>>382180767
>Midare Setsuge
You can't use the skill without the ka.
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>>382180767
seriously, the stone anim just gets louder and more obnoxious.

I love making you faggots suffer through that shit, alongside the seizure inducing holy spam
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>>382181191
Yeah, Rowena.

>>382181176
Time periods are gay I wont defend that. But they were there in ARR just as much as they were in HW, so I don't see the argument that HW somehow ruined them. Do you not remember trying to grind the FC leader cards from those three NPCs that all had stupidly small time windows?
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>>382181235
>love being annoying to others for the sole sake of being annoying to others
Boy you sure were raised properly.
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>>382179932
ended up queued with some portugese with top bantz earlier
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>>382180767
>All i want to hear as melee, is a SAMs Midare Setsuge

Funny, I'm ranged and the only thing I can hear is you and the other 5 SAMs' facerolling your autistic katana clangs, punctuated out by the occasional AST spell.
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>>382181306
>Rowena
Lewena, rather. They're probably related
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>>382181187

It's why people bot them so much. I've been tempted to as well. Crafting gets me irate, and gathering makes me sedated. There's no special tricks to them, though they tried in HW with Collectables and gathering Desynthesis. It's a bunch of nonsense in my opinion. I level it because I'm an autist who hits level cap on everything and so I can make gear for friends who need it, not because they're engaging.
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>>382180767
its revenge for all the drg who spammed doom spike
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