Really makes you think

They probably removed some of the little details like rotating revolver and syringe gun to make the game run better for lower end machines, so they could get as many people to play as possible.

Also the thing where you can no longer pick up weapons for ammo was in the patch notes ages ago, new players were dumb and didn't know they could get ammo from them so they figured it would be better to just have ammo boxes fly out of people who died.

>>382139735
>to make the game run better for lower end machines
Valve doesn't give a shit about this, unoptimised hats have been killing performance on toasters that used to be able to run the game fine for years.

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>>382140085
What the fuck is the point of hats and other stupid fucking accessories anyway?

TF2 has bigger problems than minor unnoticeable details being altered/removed.

>>382139080

>remove little details to make cosmetics more compatible

>>382139735
This. It's like Valve main M.O.

>>382140085
You're just thick and don't follow Valve.


Someone should do the same for Dota 2.

>>382140042
So having a discussion about a vidya related video is shilling. The video itself is just blank information, it's made to spark discussion.

>>382139735
>play on high when puter good
>play on low when puter bad
What's so hard to understand?

>>382140042
How the fuck is a shill if the video talks about the how shitty is the newest version?

>>382139080
The only difference in your picture comparison is a single line of vmt code that anyone can change by editing it with notepad

>>382140373
But every problem is worth pointing out. The TF2 balance problems were already covered to death by the 9 milion TF2bers that exist.

>>382140478
Valve hasn't been worth following for years.

>valve still hasn't updated the grenade launcher model to have four chambers instead of six

>>382140608
The fact that my game runs better with high settings on my old PC, and on low settings on my new one.

Crowbcat is pretty professional at doing these

>>382140923
Four grenade chambers would look terrible imo

>that spy revolver and medic gun clip
what the fuck

>>382139080
Didn't original TF2 have cartoon style heavy muzzle flashes?

>>382141625
i think that was just promo vids.

>>382141446
Used to use a replacement that had four, it looked fine. I'll try and find it.

>>382139080
Why does mods close every thread with this video? Are they not only nintendo but valve fanboys?

So what actually happened here? Is this all just optimizations? Because with some of them I just can't see an excuse, like Scout's fucked up face in class select.

I'm cashing out on my earbuds and special weapons.
See how much steam wonga I can flip.

This was the last straw for me with this faggot crowbcat. He knows nothing about what he's talking about. I despise team fortress 2 but at least I can be fucking objective. What the fuck was the point of this video? A pathetic attempt at acting like the game is worse 10 years later because a few extremely minor not even noticeable in game changes were made? Are you fucking kidding me?

Do you literally just sit at home thinking "Hmm, what massively popular game can I gather videos of from ten years ago to compare to today in hopes doing so will make people think the game sucks today?" Your life legitimately must be pathetic.

Every game this fag shit talks literally proves him wrong time and time again. TF2 is no different, as it's popular as ever. Go take a look at the steam charts of all these games you Fucking delusional morons...

Truly makes me laugh how people can watch this idiots videos and just sheepishly nod their heads in agreement when he hasn't made ANY legitimate points. No one who plays TF2 cares about the coloration of a part of the weapon... has zero effect on the gameplay. Get a fucking life, this is the type of faggot that literally jerks off to videos of Ubisoft downgrade compilations.

>>382142670
Before anyone bites, this is a copypasted youtube comment

>>382141625
That was just for the beta, it looked awful in game so they changed it.

>>382139735
Holy fuck I just picked it up a week or two ago and was wondering why the hell I couldn't pick up enemy weapons for ammo anymore.

I seriously doubt people could be so stupid they couldn't pick that up after a few minutes of playing that makes no damn sense.

>>382142732
it was funny how people got offended by that video, despite him not saying a word. Just showing two clips side by side.

>>382142454
The earbuds train left a long long time ago.

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>>382142883
then I'll keep them when I play tf2 again in 10 years

>>382142787

Actually, that was only half the reason for the change

The other half is that they added the ability to literally pick up weapons with a key that would change your weapon out for whatever you picked up off the ground (assuming it was still usable by your class)

>>382142732
He's not wrong

This type of video is the youtube equivalent of shitposting for (You)s

Why does this trigger the tf2cucks? It was easily the tamest video crow has ever released.

>>382142787
That was part of the reason. The other part is that now you can pick up enemy weapons and use them (provided you're the same class/your class normally uses it). Kinda pointless since you lose that weapon on death, but some autists were sperging out because people were using their golden weapons.

>>382143039
Because they're still mad about overwatch stealing everything from them

>>382143039
Because TF2 is going up the shiter right now, they are afraid of everything.

>>382139080
When I saw this I was excited to see him bash the cosmetics shit but he compared like fucking minor literally who shit? What

>>382142828
fuck off and stay mad neogaf

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>>382139080

I don't think the question "is valve optimizing a game a bad thing" is an important question.

The real question is why is jump_aqua so fun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S69mWpqFap4

>>382139735
>new players were dumb and didn't know they could get ammo from them so they figured it would be better to just have ammo boxes fly out of people who died
What's funny is that this is how it was originally done in QuakeTF, a backpack full of generic ammo would fly out of their bodies. The only real problem here is that the ammo boxes in TF2 have physics applied to them so they constantly fly the fuck around if there's explosions and shit going on, making it hard to run after them.

>You will never play vanilla TF2 again

I normally say that graphics don't matter (but only after a certain point), but the shaders on 2007 were very nice.

mat_phong 0 doesn't come close

>>382143127
The whole OW v TF2 situation seems so strange to me, I don't think there is much player overlap going on.

>>382143163
What happened to that matchmaking update? Generally I know Valve isn't really developing as much outside of VR as they should but wasn't the matchmaking/esports update supposed to generally put the game on auto-pilot?

>>382140351
Its 2017 and you really don't understand why developers make cash shops packed full of shitty cosmetics?

>>382143352
There are definitely a lot of OW players who are former TF2 players, although there are also a lot of TF2 players who tried OW but came back disappointed for whatever reason

>>382140351
Making money for Valve. Once they've made TF2 free to play, they realized the vast income from retards who buy hats for 200 bucks. I think Gabe's entire advicesor board consists of sales analysts at this point who took over, because Valve hasn't done anything consumer friendly in the fast few years. There used to be a cvar back in the day that was built in by a dev to disable all hats from being displayed, but then they made that a sv_cheats command and forcing it on gets you banned. They also made replacing the hat models with dummies a bannable thing. Then they also banned server mods that would disable hats or put the game into a vanilla state. Then recently they picked up CS:GO, which is basically a rebranded and failed version of CSS for the xbox, which wasn't even made by Valve, just because they saw the potential of making more profit through that.

Valve just isn't what it used to be 10 years ago, they seem to be entirely focused on profits profits profits and profits now for the least amount of work.

Better contrast.

Squint your eyes. There's no reason why you would need to see those huge white lines on the minigun. Brightest thing on the whole screen, besides the sky.

Look at the bridge. The improved contrast shows that you can jump on the roof, otherwise they would have made that dark as well.

When the Demoman bottle breaks, it implies it does less or more damage than before it was broken (depending on how you think about it).

All improvements.

>>382139080
>remove lighting effects, animations, object physics and tons of other shit that look nice to optimize the game for toasters
>add over ten gigabytes of unoptimized ugly cosmetic bloat that makes the game unplayable on toasters
What did Valve mean by this?

>>382143352
Matchmaking is fucking trash tier shit and all the good servers in the server browser are fucking dead. It's full of BRs and 10 year olds.

>>382139080
tf 2 is shit anways there are tons of better f2p shooters srsly

>>382143238
Jump maps are very satisfying to watch

i haven't really noticed any of these changes and i've been playing since 2007. all of these things seem very minor, but it's interesting nevertheless.

at least we got hats now :^)

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>>382143570
Like Battleborn?

>>382139735
No, no, no, no, no.

All of these weapon changes were made during Gun Mettle. Because of the introduction of weapon skins, a lot of changes had to be made to the weapon view models and behavior. They changed the lighting on weapon models so that skins wouldn't look like shit. They removed the ability to turn weapons into ammo because they added the ability to pick up weapons so you could steal a weapon with a fancy skin. These also affected animated/dynamic weapons like the revolvers and Demo's bottle breaking. Heavy no longer takes a bite out of his Sandvich anymore either. It's always whole.

I don't know where from the depths of your ass you pulled any of this shit out of. You did no research. You just fucking guessed. You had no idea why any of these changes were made.

>>382143545
That backs up my thought that the game going free was a bad decision community-wise.

someone post some epic tf2 sfm xD

>>382139080
I think a lot of the changes that have been done since 2007, especially for viewmodels and how the texture and lighting are done, is because of how they've constantly had to rework how all of the visuals are coded into the game. The updates that added all these different killstreaks, reskins, and such to the weapons played a big part of this.

>>382143079
You'd be surprised how useful that can actually be in certain situations, especially if you're a medic because you can pick up another person's medigun and keep their ubercharge meter.

>>382141964
Would appreciate if you manage to find one for the Loch n Load. Thought the weapon was fine with only two but I guess the devs thought differently.

>>382143797
good post

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>>382139080
>OMG THEY REMOVED LITTLE DETAILS FROM THE GAME! HOW DARW THEY?
It's like people don't give a shit about gameplay anymore.

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>>382143537
what did you say boi?

the only change i REALLY care about is not being able to NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE NEED A DISPENSER HERE

>>382139735
your argument is garbage because I played tf2 on radeon 9200 (64mb of video memory) in 2008
I don't think it will even launch today thanks to "optimization" you talk about

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>the amount of TF2 faggots getting butthurt over this in the comments

I love how the comments section is filled with people who are acting like he was tearing the game apart even though it clips side by side with zero narration.

Gamers are so delicate.

>>382144241
its neofags still mad at kangz n sheeeit

>>382140085
Pretty sure thats the whole point right there, my dad's HP used run this game no problem when I was younger, now it would be unplayable on the same system. They added a bunch of over the top cosmetics to sell to retards only to realize that most of their audience can't even run the game anymore. So they drop the quality of base items that they don't make any money on for better performance.

buy the hats goy

>>382143238
>is valve optimizing a game a bad thing
plain bullshit
>>382144217

>>382143249
In QWTF the weapons themselves didn't separate from the playermodels, though.

>>382143308
vanilla tf2 is a great game.
this mess looks like a faggot parade

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How do you want your view models pham?

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>>382143209
cringe

>>382144529
in minimode, so i can actually see what i'm doing

Is there a way to play TF2 like it was in 2007? The game today is practically unrecognizable.

>>382143604
To be fair, this is 10 years of differences being shown and a lot of the changes that's pointed out have been incremental since then. I'm pretty sure the stuff about the weapons not having the same lighting or minor details anymore was done as recently as 2014 when they started putting in weapon skins.

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>>382144529
r_drawgun 0 preferably

Remove all guns and hats, full reboot.

>>382144445

you're right its all a conspiracy, to make your game look worse for no reason.

you fucking idiot

I don't even really give a shit

>>382144646
Yeah, on Xbox

>>382144798
nice strawman, fanboy

>>382142401
That's just a change in lighting engine reflecting poorly in that specific example. Certain things here are understandable from an optimisation point of view, such as the removed sapper props no longer existing, but most of the smaller changes probably meant nothing in the long run. The newer lighting system looks better in a lot of the cases shown anyways, with items not having unnatural light sources illuminating them for the sake of making them pop.

>>382144781
Source?

>>382143249
>The only real problem here is that the ammo boxes in TF2 have physics applied to them so they constantly fly the fuck around if there's explosions and shit going on
That's intentional. You can use rockets and stickies to bring an ammo box to you.

>>382144917

oh whats the reason then?

>>382140478
Wow an unironic Valve drone in /v/ it's been a while :^)

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>>382144529
FUCKING TURN THEM OFF IN COMPETITIVE ALREADY

>>382139080
>Crowbcat

Not even once.

>>382144241
Releasing more hats will shut them up

Still haven't forgiven this guy for his E3 video

TF2 was always fucking shit anyway

>>382143768
But TF2 isn't BADASS.

>>382145204
incompetence or no fucks given

>>382144646
On Source Filmmaker

>>382144616
>minmode
>not transparent

>>382145019
Sappers not leaving gibs is, again, because of Gun Mettle. They added the ability to pick up weapons, but they didn't want players trying to pick up broken Sappers so they removed Sapper gibs entirely.

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>>382145645
>needing viewmodels at all

>>382144119
Nobody is complaining about anything, the video is just a comparison. No words were said. Are you really so insecure about TF2?

>>382142858
>what is suggestion

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>>382145749
I mean, I like the weapon skins and all that, but I don't get the weapon pickup thing beyond Medics.

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lmao those comments. The TF2 fanbase is absolutely furious. Bunch of poor third worlders with toasters need to defend they only garbage they can play.

>>382139080
yeah big surprise, tf2 was a laboratory for valve since almost the beginning, they didnt give a single fuck about adding unbalanced weapons and shitty hats at the price of the game's performance, fuck tf2 and fuck valve for that.

>game gets made to look worse
>runs shittier
Fuck you,Valve, you lazy fucking retards.

>>382145832
What is he suggesting? That TF2 changed? That's kinda obvious.

>>382145940
I think the main reason they added it was so you can steal weapons with fancy skins. I think they justified it to themselves by saying that there are so many weapons in TF2, they could add some depth to the game by letting players steal different weapons and hotswap their loadouts on the battlefield.

Either way, its a stupid feature nobody uses. Weapon gibs were nice. Running over weapons for ammo was fun, especially as Spy.

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>>382142787

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>>382146215
>All of Valve's decisions are based around cosmetic sales

It hurts tbqh

>>382143768
Um, anon, Battleborn™ just has an unlimited free trial, it's not F2P at all!

>>382146215
I don't see the difference to be honest. You get ammo either way.

The only difference is that if you killed someone by surprise, they might have more ammo than you do. Weapon gibs are still there. More there, in fact.

>>382146264
Tbf, he said he though Valve was so advanced and sucked their dick so much he couldnt fathom the path circling back and though it was a alternate path that just glitched so he kept going and going in a attenpt to fix it.

Pathetic, but he has a excuse

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>>382139080
People still play TF2?

>>382145621
yeah, thats why the game is running better.

incompetence, no fucks given

>>382146760
What

would it be possible to find an old build of tf2 and put up custom servers for it outside of steam?

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Why the fuck can't they just give us Team Fortress 2 Classic already? I want my game back.

>>382146845
lol

>>382143797
so basically valve made their game worse to appeal to csgo autists. wonderful.

>>382139080
>removing the physics on items
>when physics is the Source Engine's motif
Gay.
Also the fucking ammo box sharting out of corpses is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen, fuck mouthbreathers

>>382146840
Yep, its true though.

>>382139735
I could be wrong here so someone correct me if I'm wrong:
It's because a while ago they changed (most) of the weapons to be the same model for first person and in the third person. They were originally separated models with v_shotgun for your viewmodel of the shotgun and w_shotgun for the world model of the shotgun as an example. Now they made it so it's a universal model called c_shotgun, so it uses the same model for third person and first person.

>>382146821
>the game is running better
lol

>>382146803
If by ''play'' you mean roleplay and trade items then yeah. Nobody actually plays it for the gameplay anymore. The eSports update was a complete failure.

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You haven't forgotten, have you?

>>382147052
What are you talking about, your post is a mess

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I'm glad TF2 is finally starting to lose players.
The game has lost its soul for years now, and each update has been making it progressively worse. The last few have sapped out so much fun out of the game because they've been trying to appeal to competitive faggots that make up the minority of players and CSGO autists.
The game I used to love and put over 2,000 hours into needs to die.

>>382146845
it is, some ledditor did it.

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>>382139080
I would kill to play no bullshit, 2007 TF2.
Funny thing is, in the long run the consoles won.

>>382145817
The video pretty much "they removed that little detail from the game lmao look how shit the game is now". Even if was just a "comparison" it's completely unnecessary because there's only small little tweaks.

>>382147387
The point is they downgraded a 10 year old game in order to make room for stupid cosmetic bullshit.

>>382147303
same.
It sucks more because the amount of people that want to play the game without cosmetics or community weapon additions is about 100x smaller than the f2p community.

>>382147282
>Someone thought +50 health was okay

>>382147387
your life is unnecessary...

Microsoft will outright purchase Valve eventually and release '''''Half-Life 3'''''.

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I remember enjoying the game the most sometime around the update that added all the japanese weapons. It definitely went down the drain on the F2P update.

>>382139080
>reddit video

>>382147598
God damn her breasts are huge.

>>382147286
huh. i can still boot up the game and have some fun in quick play pretty easily.

i've been playing since beta. i think around 2011 i quit because i hated what they did to the artstyle but i reinstalled in 2016 and regularly have a blast with it.

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>>382147113

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>>382143768
>>382145563
>>382146629
BADass

>>382147303
There is a mod called Team Fortress 2 Classic that tries to replicate this along with adding a quake like deathmatch mode.
Main issue is that they added some unnecessary shit like weird weapon ideas or beta shit (aka nail gun for scout and a weird battle sniper rifle for sniper) and that it's basically dead.
They do have the kritzkreig in it along with being able to haul buildings and backstabs not forcing a 1 second animation on you.

>>382147634
haha reddit is bad because someone told me it's bad!

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>>382147303
I can't fucking believe it, back in the day we used to laugh at the mere existence of the console version. Now it's the only version that hasn't been completely shat all over.

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>>382147303
>I would kill to play no bullshit, 2007 TF2.
>no bullshit

no airblast
engie can't pick up buildings
also other changes that were actually really good for the game

don't be so retarded as to say that 2007 tf2 had no bullshit

>>382147303
>>382147834
>0 player online
epic

>>382147736
in spawn

>>382147834
Does anyone play the console versions?

why is it ok to shill this guy's youtube channel? did he get clearance by the mods?

>>382147927
2009 TF2 then. The first character updates and nothing else

>>382147814
>the state of forwardslash vee in two thousand seven teen
god damn, son

>>382147941
no since 2008

>>382147934

>555fps on map/mge_training_v8_beta4.bsp
>in spawn

you don't know what you're talking about

>tfw i still have fun with modern TF2

You guys honestly need to lighten up. Half these complaints are kinda childish.

>>382147993
OP is this guy's youtube channel.
Expect multiple threads about it.

>>382148174
>t. someone who started playing in 2014 at the earliest

>>382148087
/v/ has always been like this... what a shit board.

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>>382148235
not him but i have my platinum badge and still play the game, and have fun too.

>>382148173
mge are maps cut in small chunks. so it's even worse for fps testing. And you probably use configs or a PC worth a fortune

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Other than the animations these changes seem cosmetic or performance related.

I have no problem with this but would like to have the animations back.

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>>382148358
>played since 2009
>My badge is still the mercenary badge that someone who just picks up the game today gets
VALVE PLEASE UPDATE THE TIMES FOR THE BADGES PLEASE.

FYI this happened to half-life 2 with orange box update. the original look is gone. half life source is fucked. valve doesn't fucking test that shit.

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>>382148174
>not wanting massive cosmetic bloat
>not wanting the subtle details stripped out for barely any good reasons
>not wanting CSGO-Tier weapon skins
>not wanting all the community servers dead sans custom gamemodes and trade servers
>not wanting a shitty competitive gamemode, matchmaker, and a shitty new UI shoved down your throat
>not wanting balance changes that strip out of the fun to pander to a minority
>not wanting streams of shitty updates
>not wanting the artstyle completely buried under obnoxious cosmetic items
>wanting people to play the game for the game instead of dressup
>not wanting a game full of children and BRs
>childish
Go fuck yourself. Honestly.

>>382140923
I like to think demoman is to drunk to remember he can load 2 more into the chamber

Tf2 threads don't get traction unless you talk about cosmetics and loadouts, literal proof that the current playerbase only cares about dressup.

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>>382147927
>Spy being able to recharge his watch with weapons/ammo

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>>382143570

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>all the changes are good you're just complaining for no reason!
I never thought I would see a thread with true, bona fide valve drones. Why don't you guys just go keep sucking that gaben cock. Buy those games on summer sale, yes, give him even more money for nothing. Don't forget your cosmetics and trading cards too.

>>382148409

My pc is barely around 1k spent over the course of 6 years with part swapping, I run at native res and limit my frames so my processor doesn't whine and its a full server

haven't seen you dropping any proof to your point

>>382139080
Meh. Yeah, it kinda sucks the fact they downgraded those little details but I really don't care about it, if this video was never posted I would have never notice any of this and even after watching it, I still don't care about them because it doesn't affect the gameplay.

I'm a simple man, if the game gets continuous updates that brings a lot of content for almost a decade, I will be satisfied.

>>382148235
Several years earlier, as a matter of fact. I wasn't here when it first launched, but that was more so because I was a console gamer until late 2010. Still, I genuinely can't find an issue with modern TF2 other than the focus on weapon reskins and all that.

>>382149082
continuous updates most of which are bad.

>>382148964
Well all you have is a shitty cropped screenshot, show me the whole thing and i might believe you.

>>382149082
>a lot of content
>hats jackets etc.
Woah all this quality content, thank you based gaben

literally nothing wrong u autists

>>382148579
>he doesnt have no hats stock loadout just to shit on kiddies who indulge in these features.

Nah, fuck you cynical mann.

>>382148579
>all minor complaints since you can still go on vanilla community servers, which are vastly abundant
The children and BRs, I'll give you that. But everything else can easily be ignored.

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>the shadowy bits in maps are darker
>a decal on a wall is now more transparent
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!!!!

RIP Phong Shading

>>382148579
you keep complaining about these balance changes, care to name any specific ones that actively ruined the game? or are you just a mad shitter puff'n'sting pyro?

>>382149352
>not being a pcbro is cynical
The cosmetic fuckfest still bloats the filesize a ton and it still makes you have to see the cancer everything
>>382149359
What a fucking shitty argument. That's like saying WoW's shitty updates don't matter because Nostalrius was a thing .

>>382139080
Why is everything so much darker? When did Demoman's bottle stop breaking? I remember that existing while I still played like 2-3 years ago.

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>>382149263
Because they did so well at launch, they needed little in terms of gameplay updates.

The game still plays fairly similar to 2007 ignoring the cosmetics.

You still have sticky smpam, rocket jumps sticky jumps heavy crouch jumping to evade snipers, spy trick stabs.

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>>382149082
>if the game gets continuous updates that brings a lot of content for almost a decade, I will be satisfied.
The fact that they're completely redoing and outright nerfing the majority of weapons for the upcoming update shows how much thought and care they put into that 'content'. Wasn't it after the Uber update that it took them a year to even add kill icons for the new weapons?

>>382149171

shitty crop? excuse me? like 40 seconds in paint.net for that shit thanks.
god damn quality

and the details i mentioned would not be furthered with a non-cropped shot pedo

>>382149503
Wait why the hell did d.rone or val.vedrone get changed to pcbro
>>382149496
Most of the newest balance changes are fun killers.

>>382149539
It's so people don't think the broken bottle does more damage

>>382149608
>Most of the newest balance changes are fun killers.
well go ahead and name some then

>>382149580
You, or at least the poster that I replied to said that it brought "a lot of content." Now you're just pointing out the shit that was in the game from the start.

>>382148964
Not him but my toaster ran the game fine in 2013 but nowadays struggles to run the same maps.

>>382149503
And I get joy out of destroying cancer with my skill.

Its not like theres anything better, TFC guns and movement suck and most classes feel useless other than sniper heavy engineer, soldier and qwtf hasnt had players since 2002

holy shit crowbcat is really grasping for straws at this point, isn't he?

why do people keep shilling and watching this faggot?

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>tfw mods refuse to delete thread

>>382149754
>TFC guns and movement suck
conc jumps were fucking FUN

>>382149135


>>382149263
Yeah, we got that a lot of unnecessary stuff, but we also got tons of arms and other items that updated the gameplay

>>382149754
You forgot AIDS Scout

>>382149642
Sandman + Guillotine being removed
Ambassador nerf
YER change
Bonk Change
Base Jumper change
Danger Shield now being a pyro counter for no reason since Pyros rarely interact with snipers

tf2outpost and workshop ruined the aesthetic of this game

ever since the robocrate came out, the game has been oversaturated with awful cosmetics and unusual effects because of the profit from the market and artists learning maya in two months hoping to get a shiny community hat, just fucking terrible

>>382149713
What I am saying is the game has hardly changed so it is hardly different gameplay wise to today.

Most stuff brought in like engineer buidlings or airblasty are QoL changes and new weapons are mostly sidegrades(waiting on a black box,ubersaw nerf).

I didnt really look at what your post was talking about so I should have been more careful however.

>>382149805
Why would they delete a thread about a video game? Did you mean to post this in the LOL thread?

>>382149923
i don't give a shit about neofag, i just think crowbcat makes subpar shit and people keep shilling his videos on /v/

>>382139080
crowb is a faggot who actually thinks god hand is good

>>382149805
Good job posting a racist leader of the Alt Right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=5nGdHeaPXw8

>>382149834
Not for me. I hate the physics in Half-Life so much. Feels too bouncy and slow when not bunny hopping.

Quake 3>source>halflife=quake1

>>382147545
It was actually fine, as that extra tankiness made Pyro a threat as opposed to a fucking joke.

>ITT: Autistic children who are too attatched to their virtual hats to accept that TF2 has been turned into a shitty Frankenstein guinea pig of a game
Have fun ERPing on your favourite no kill server I guess

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>>382150069
Oh sweetie, did the Switch video make you sad?

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>>382150151
>permabanned

That is literally not possible.

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>>382150183
It's funny because it's literally true that /v/ only hated Crowbcat after the Switch video
Then again 90% of /v/ is Nintendies

>>382150183
last nintendo console i owned was the wii, want to try again?

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>>382147303
Question: What comic is that bird from? I remember i read those comics as a little kid.

Reverse image search gave me shit. Tried Akinator too, but he didn't know.

>>382144076
two isn't enough to destroy a level 3 sentry that's being repaired by an engie, plus they changed the weapon entirely so now its bonus damage only applies to sentries rather than in general. A shame really, for the longest time the LnL was considered to be the Direct Hit for Demos and it was the perfect primary for demoknights as well before the booties came out.

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>>382149895
>>382149834
Still I do give tfc credit for making heavy more useful. I wish tf2 heavy did well on offense by himself

>>382149805
>shut it down

>>382149589
Except I have to agree with alot of the changes. The only people getting crapped on this update are amby spies and crutch scouts. I'm a little bummed about the change to the rescue ranger, but I completely understand why they did it. If an engineer doesn't need metal to fix his buildings, then it trivializes his entire gameplay style.

>>382150151
People are talking about the content of the video, which is video games releated as it is TF2. Nobody is talking about crob except retards such as yourself

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>>382150331
>>382150085
>>382149923
>cringey samefag desperate to defend his virtual friend

>>382149923
WTF NOW I LOVE GAMERGATE

>>382150151
>ecelebs are not video game
well the thread is not about the faggot that made the video but the content of the video

you are probably the kind of person that doesnt understand the concept of reaction images and keep tying to argue using the image person uses instead what they said

>>382150325
>>382150325
heavy severely needed that update instead of pyro. now we will have to wait a year for heavy to get updated.

heavy needs some kind of hand cannon thing (like roadhog) that makes him a beefy damage dealer with maybe short bursts of mobility. maybe introduce a demoknight style change where a beefy shotgun becomes his 'main' weapon instead

>>382145125
The artist is Oda_non

>>382147545
This was back when Backburner couldn't airblast, it was meant to allow you to charge through faggots and then kite behind them for crits.

>>382150325
I just wish there was a TFC remake that gave each class something from TF2:

>scout's double jump
>soldier's...i dunno
>pyro's air blast
>demo's sticky bombs
>heavy's minigun revving
>engie's...still dummo
>medic's medigun
>sniper's jarate
>spy's sapper

>>382149751

Not him but tf2 is running fine for me and i play on a 2007 laptop

All those hats really raised the memory footprint of the game so they had to downgrade it, even though it ran on toasters even in 2009.

Fucking valve.

If I could just have a version of TF2 that only has stock and the achievement items for every class and no cosmetics, it'd be perfect.

Re-installing so I can shit on this game with the rest of my trusty /v/ friends. What am I in for? Quit sometime after meet the medic (2010?). Also traded all of my hats and shit to some fucker BUT WHO NEEDS THEM?

>>382149589
The vast majority of kill icons were done by community, because at that time Valve never considered it was important to see what weapons people are using.

>>382150672
You can pick up dropped weapons from other people. Guns have skins now. Even more hats. Degreaser is shit. Axtinguisher is shit.Unusual taunts. Community servers are practicaly non existent, so you have to rely on valve's matchmaking system.

>>382147927
I would take TF2 right before the Spy VS Sniper Update for various reasons:
1)Fucking Deadringer, turning the entire community into a mass of paranoid fucks
2)Hats, it was the start of the downfall.

>>382150861
Axtinguisher was a justified nerf no matter how many salty Pyro mains cry.
Having a low-skill combo that oneshots anyone but Heavy was stupid

>>382143513
>refunds
>no more greenlight
>not comparing current valve service to other sales platforms like origin

but just keep on blindly hating, your life would lose a lot of meaning without your internet crusade

I stopped playing shortly after War update. Man, that was, what, 2010-11?

>>382149263
yeah let's ignore all the maps, weapons, and game modes. fucking retard.

>>382151026
Refunds that you can't get back in real money. Not to mention they stopped allowing refunds of No Man's Sky for a while

>>382147941
Plenty of people. Like 1/5 of the population of the PC version. A lot more on xbox than on ps3 because the xbox version can be downloaded but the ps3 version can only be found on physical form. It was also released for xbox one through the retrocompatibility thingy.

>>382139080
Crowbcat lost all credibility with his hit jobs on PS4 Pro and Switch. Yet, /v/ keeps going back to his videos likely to post as bantz in console warrior threads.

>inb4 butthurt Sonybro or Nintentoddler
PCMR reporting in. I understand the fallacies of anecdotal evidence and know less than 10% is a common consumer grade electronics failure rate. Just 'cause it's on Twitter does not mean it's true.

>>382151065
>maps
>weapons
>game modes
thank the community instead, where the idiots offer their ideas to gaben for free. all valve does is suck up the money from it.

REMOVE eceleb viral marketing.

>>382150113
uhh did you not play goldsrc games at 500+ fps or something.

>>382150861
>Community servers are practicaly non existent
But that was the comfiest part of the game for me. Going to a regular server with decently skilled people just listening to the bants.

>>382151271
only one talking about ecelbs are you buddy i'm talking about tf2 here

>>382151304
its gone
forever

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>>382150987
I'm not disagreeing.

>>382151253
>moving the goal posts
every time

>>382151198
Gonna need a source on that. The PC version has had over 2 million unique users last two weeks. A fifth would be approximately 200,000 players.

Last time I booted up the 360 version---in 2009 ish---I couldn't find a full match. Burgerland, cable internet without NAT fuckery.

>>382151160
>Refunds that you can't get back in real money.

I get games refunded on Steam to my PayPal account all the time.

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>making some shadows nicer, crush the blacks a bit in some places where it was needed
>better spy revolver reload animation
>make the butterfly knife not comedically large
>reduce the diffuse on some weapons so they don't look like they are somehow emitting light

was this supposed to be bad stuff? Does crowb understand video games?

>>382150903
I remember before that update thinking that the cloak and dagger would be the most OP shit and the Dead Ringer a dumb gimmick.

Boy was I wrong.

>>382151412
are you a retard? Literally only things added of value were made by the community. Hm, guess I should thank valve for pass time or mvm? or the new "competitive" match making?

TF2 was better before it went F2P. That killed it entirely.

>>382151435
My bad, I was just guessing the numbers. Probaly way less than that. Like... 200 people maybe? If you search for gameplay footage on youtube you see there are still people playing.

>>382151364
People just stopped bothering making servers when match making came along?

>>382151571
This
F2P released a floodgate of W + M1 ghibus pyros and overall bad players
>>382151482
>make the butterfly knife not comedically large
So you've never seen a standard balisong in real life.

>>382151482
I don't think he made any points. He just showed a comparison.

You're the one drawing conclusions.

>bottle doesn't break
Of all things, that's the thing that mumbles my jumbos

>>382151614
they were getting 0 players so they had to shut down
no one, especially new players, wants to go through the mess that is the server browser when they can just click the queue button on casual and get a 2fort server.

>>382151529
the point is that game not devoid of content like you claim. Whether it's valve or community made doesn't matter, it's still there. Now stop trying to deflect you mongoloid

>>382151614
Little incentive to keep them up when the majority just go straight to matchmaking.

>gaben removed all that fancy stuff just to fit in more unusual effects
Holy f*ck! Based Gayben!

>>382151693
When I was new I used to think that a broken bottle did more damage so I'd stay in spawn and hit the nearest wall until it broke before getting out. I think they removed it so it'd be less confusing for new players or something? I mean they did remove hydro from matchmaking and made it so that you pick up ammo packs instead of guns.

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>>382151493
Cloak & Dagger was a fun combo, especially with the taunt while invisible but Dead Ringer, while extremely good, it turned playing spy extremely easy, forgiving and rewarding at same time.
Every spy was using it so much that now they automatically think they are using the deadringer.
Also i'm still pissed when i see pyros and engineers still shooting around you when you are using the default cloak

>>382139735
except it ran fucking flawlessly on a core 2 duo and a geforce 8800 and still would be if not for the stupid cosmetics

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rate my medick

>>382151707
Kids these days.
Nothing better than dicking through the browser for weeks, months... until you find that sweet server that has chill people on it every night, is never empty but rarely jam packed so you don't get in, vanilla settings, good map rotation... and you favorite that shit and become one of the regulars.

Felt like coming home every night.

>>382151304
>>382151364
>>382151614
>>382151707
>>382151787

bull shitters, at least if you're NA

>>382151571
From a capitalist view point it was an incredibly wise idea. The cosmetic market was a huge success and brought valve more money than any game they could have ever done. Also you say f2ps ruined the game but i'd rather play with shitty players all day than none at all.

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>>382152319

forgot pic

>>382139080
>The comments defending this shit
Jesus christ, what a bunch of tremendous cocksuckers.

>>382152435
Most of these are custom gamemodes or trade servers you fucking idiot.

>>382152496
Pcbros are surprisingly still common

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>>382141446
looks good to me

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>>382152643
Oh my god. They did. They actually fucking did.
They made it so v.alvedrone filters into Pcbro.
What the flying fuck? What's with all the random shitty changes to boards lately?

>>382150672
Here is a list of weapons that have been fucked up since Meet the Medic:
Claymore
Loch N Load
Ullapool Caber
Persian Persuader
Dalokahs Bar
Axetinguisher
Powerjack
Degreaser
Shortstop
Black Box
Liberty Launcher
Soda Popper
Equalizer (split into two different weapons, have to choose either GRU stats or Shahansha stats)
Righteous Bison
Market Gardener

>>382152507

and?

they are community servers

>>382152849
grafics wise?

>>382152867
The initial point was there's no longer active community servers that let you just play the game normally without dealing with the shittiness of valve servers. Imbecile.

>>382152507
none of those posts complained either those.
>oh shit he got me!
>better move the goal posts!
every. time.

>>382152205
>>>/vg/ out of ten

>>382152205
You actually made a set where a gibus looks nice. Not bad.

>>382151435
>2 million unique users last two weeks. A fifth would be approximately 200,000
a-anon

>>382152849
>LNL
>Black box
>Soda popper
>Market gardener
Justified nerfs

>Dalokahs Bar
Is better than it's ever been
Has a niche for roaming heavies or for stacking with QF

>Liberty launcher
Always been garbage

>Equalizer
EP still the best melee weapon soldier has, equalizer was broken as fuck

>>382152986
stats wise really but the new phongs that TF2 uses now does make them look graphically weaker

>>382139080
valve are ridiculous nowadays, didn't they add a gun to CSGO that was just stupidly overpowered and always gave headshots and totally overthrew the csgo meta for like a week til it was fixed?

>>382153012

its one page of many, there are alot of default tf2 maps listed there in the screen shot already too.

and valve servers aren't shitty, i think they were lamenting about not having a server of regulars to hang out with which are still around as well.

if you want to think everything is bad go for it, but people might call you on your bs if you say it out loud

>>382153453
>stop criticizing things!
>everything is good because I love Gabe's fat Cheeto dust coated cock!

>>382143171
theres a already a video on that, but its bashing cs go mostly while having some tf2 within it

I'm glad these threads exist. I haven't touched TF2 in 3 years. Every time I get the urge, I come to a thread like this and it makes me not want to play anymore. Like how looking at naked obese people makes me need to go to the gym

>>382153438

sure

>>382153438
CSGO devs don't actually play the game. Also CSGO is not being developed by valve themselves, its by Hidden Path Entertainment.

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>>382153453
>there are alot of default tf2 maps listed there in the screen shot already too.
No there isn't, if it isn't in dustbowl, 2fort, or hightower good fucking luck finding a server.

>>382153438
The R8 revolver was the only gun in CSGO that required skill and aim. Everything else is just dice rolling spread "patterns"

>>382153567

stay in school

>>382153453
Not to mention if your friend is playing on a Valve server you can't join him anymore unless he leaves and creates a party.

>>382153771
>y-you must be underage if you don't praise the lord Gaben
Kill yourself

Meh, tf2 is still fun for me. Fuck the haters.

>>382143238
>Fap

>>382151482
>>better spy revolver reload animation
The rest of it I can chalk up to potential taste, but this has to be bait

>TF2 then has the barrel rotate as it would with a real gun
>TF2 now stays in place

How is this anything but an objective downgrade?

My old pc runs this game a lot better than my current one, what gives?

>>382154094
He was talking about the reloading animation not the firing animation.

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What did they mean by this?

>>382143039
I haven't had TF2 installed since 2013 because the game has gone to shit but this video is peak Crowbcat, it's the most autistic /v/-pandering nitpicking imaginable. Also it's fishy as fuck that Crowbcat has gone this long without making a single video criticizing any of Blizzard's games, despite criticizing other companies for the exact same things Blizzard continues to do.

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>>382154287
>metal supply constantly increasing
>keys are tied to real money

>>382154241
How is that better either? You can see the spy push the actual bullets into his revolver in the original animation, the new animation masks it by having his entire hand cover the cylinder so it's reloaded when his hand moves away.

>>382143537
stop this what did x mean by this shit you meme loving fuck

I like how it's a simple comparison video with absolutely no personal narrative, opinions, or bias on the part of Crowbcat, yet people want there to be controversy so they need to pretend like it's an absolute ass-ripper blowing the new version out of the water and a bait video looking for (You)s.

>scout's face
What the shit?

>>382153874
That's not the point, dude. I still play TF2 every weekend and I have lots of fun, but these downgrades are just plain shitty.
>B-but it doesn't affect the gameplay!
Someone had to go out of his way to remove these, why? And don't pull the optimization card because removing things so your 2007 game can run on 2014 machines is not how you're supposed to do it.

>>382154287
I remember when 3 ref for a key was highballing.

You could probably write a sweet dissertation about the collapse of Team Fortress 2's economy and its ramifications.

>>382151679
hmmmmm really makes u think XD

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>>382154450
>How is the animation not taking up 90% of the screen better???

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>>382154623
it's an effect of shit lighting

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>>382139080
The changes were made over time after Valve decided to make the game more and more bloated due to constant content (hats) being added in. They needed a way to keep the core game running smoothly while still keeping all the shit they added.
The way the video is presented makes it seem like one dramatic patch. All of those changes were done over years.
It doesn't surprise me, and it doesn't particularly matter to me.

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>>382154834
>not removing viewmodels altogether

>>382154834
Because the moment it obscures the screen you're either likely to have killed your enemy or be killed by them? And because such animations have their purpose and pretending that being given more of the screen so that they can mask their animation laziness is fucking retarded?

I know! We can have all weapons in our modern FPSes just dip below the screen for reload and come back up with full ammo, like we're in the fifth gen! That sounds fucking brilliant!

>tfw /v/ will never host a vanilla server

>>382143513
wtf I hate capitalism now

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>all these triggered valveshitters in the youtube comments

TF2 is a fun game that I've been playing for almost a decade now, but stop worshiping valve's dick

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>tf2 on the 360 looks and plays better than PC

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Oh...Team...Fortroszzzzzzzzzz...

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>>382154996
Not an option on spy
>Can't see backstab animation
>Can't tell if you have dead ringer activated

>>382155024
>Because the moment it obscures the screen you're either likely to have killed your enemy or be killed by them?
Wrong, good spies reload regularly during fights because you get perfect accuracy after reloading. This is something spy mains complained about for months because you couldn't turn on auto reload either without it taking up your screen all the fucking time and no other class had this issue.

>And because such animations have their purpose
What purpose? So you can get a close up of the gun? The bullets being removed and reinserted is all still there nothing has disappeared. Who the fuck smacks themselves in the face to reload a revolver and facing upward so the bullets can fall out?

>We can have all weapons in our modern FPSes just dip below the screen
It's not below the screen stop making shit up faggot.

There are genuine downgrades in this video but this isn't one of them you autistic fuck, everybody wanted this change.

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>>382155548
If animations are distracting even if they're momentary, then maybe we should just stop having them. That's basically what you're proposing if you call that revolver reload too long to have its momentary real estate on the screen.

>>382155471
if catgirls were real, the ears would be where regular human ears are

>>382155651
False dichotomy
Fuck off retard

And what next? Quake live comparisons? Graphic fags are the worst. If you're not playing TF2 with a highframes config why are you even trying to play the game?

>>382152719
your viewmodels looks unrealistic = bad game. understand me?

>>382155723
>if catgirls were real
Stop it, you're breaking my heart

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>>382155723
fine with me desu

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>>382155723
>if catgirls were real

>>382155732
It isn't a scout or medic or something that has a plausible hope of escape and an extended reload. The spy's reload is momentary and if reloading was going to kill you then you were already dead anyway assuming the other player wasn't literally braindead.

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>>382155723

>>382155763
>having a pc so bad you can't run tf2 at 60

>>382152849
>Dalokahs Bar
It's still good though

>>382150285
>got a Wii
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>382155910
>60

>>382148532
FUCKING THIS

>>382153678
I can remove the maps you listed and still get a match in a few seconds, heck even if I queue for a single game mode. Where do you play?

>>382151679
thank you enlightened centrist.

the majority of the changes were negative

>>382152173
I think I saw a video about getting it to run on shitty PCs where a guy had a command to turn off cosmetics or hat effects or something
Im gonna try that out sometime

>>382154450
dummy who has never animated a fucking thing in his life detected

the revolver doesnt move up to an awkward position and there is a subtle bounce back to idle

its better goober

>>382139735
It's funny because the game is optimized like shit. A dustmite could run TF2 back in like 2010, but now it can't even boot it up.

>>382155572
I really like shirt miscs but I agree with you
Is it weird that I started playing in 2013 but I still want unusuals, promo hats and anything that breaks the artstyle to disappear?

>>382150297
First hit on reverse image search
http://nedroid.com/

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>>382155873
Reloading doesn't cost anything in TF2 dipshit, you can cancel any reload animation in the game. Have you even played this game before? I already listed reasons why spy would want to reload during battle and why no other class has this issue, the only reason you have for why they should have kept the old reload animation was so you can get a close up of the gun disregarding how unrealistic and stupid this looks.

It's become clear to me at this point you are just looking for an excuse to bitch and you don't have an argument.

>>382156423
>valve bothers to reanimate the revolver after 10 years
>still hasn't fixed literally every other broken reload animation on every single added weapon ever released
>breaks the revolver mag spinning in the process
>massive clipping on a shitton of melee weapons, some which arent even aligned in the hands

they never really gave a shit about tf2