It seems like hitman is saved https://twitter.com/iointerac

Holy shit this is unprecedented. This explains why they let go of a fair few of their staff. But while this is great for creative control, it pits a great deal nore pressure on their titles to sell well. In any case, hyped for Season 2.

>>380740080
Wew boy
Hopefully they can find a publisher to bankroll their games

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DER ER ET YNDIGT LAND
DET STÅR MED BREDE BOGE

Thank god!

>>380740080
>i just hope hitman can get more money, while highly polished lacked it in some departments mainly the voice acting.

>>380740080
We're truly living in the best timeline.

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Alright then there's no fucking excuse for the episodic model and always online bullshit in season 2.

what do you guys expect from season 2

>transferring over old weapons

>more missions per map

>accents that reflect the location

>no always online

>go with the previous model of 3 maps per a release so that it can be more easily marketed

>>380742601
Hopefully Elusive Targets stay the same way. Fucking plebs crying about content they missed out on when its the entire fucking point.

>indie hitman

in b4 season 2 kickstarter

This is pretty cool

>>380742826
>transferring over old weapons
important, I will riot if this isn't a thing

>more missions per map
couldn't hurt

>accents that reflect the location
desu I don't care, it's kind of hilarious and becoming a trope

>no always online
I could do with that.

>go with the previous model of 3 maps per a release so that it can be more easily marketed
:c


I just want a little weapon customization, like from blood money

>>380742826
i really hope for a good, but small weapon upgrade system.

>>380742826
You mean transfer of S1 weps to S2? Thats a no brainer. S2 is just going to add the new maps to the current platform. Dont really care about the accents, if they have the cash to spare sure, but its not a priority. And I doubt itll continue to be always online.

>>380742945
>shitty reskins
>"content"

>>380743339
GLOVES

yeah. (i hope square enix keep working japanese localize.)

>>380740080
What about Freedom Fighters and Kane & Lynch though?

>>380743575
This, I'd love to see a KL3

>>380740080
Thank you based IO

PLease make more episodes

>>380743575
lol if Squenix was willing to let go of Hitman like this then I doubt they give a flying fuck about IO's other stuff.

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>>380740080
The first good news to come out of 2017.

>/nuV/ defends episodic releases

what happened

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>>380743575
Man I am still waiting for Freedom Fighters 2. the first game is one of the best third person shooters and that fucking soundtrack ohh soo good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDx2gIlme3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmegCkd5LqI

We need Jespyr Kyd for whatever IOI does next

>>380743453
And on those damn beautiful cutscenes

Hopefully they fix some of the bad aspects of Hitman 2016. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep it episodic considering they've already started doing it so they probably feel that they may as well finish the story that was going in the same fashion, but there is no excuse if they keep the always online part of it.

>>380743960
on one hand it encourages people to play the game the way it was meant to be played, and get the game out sooner. Helps justify it's larger levels

on the other hand on the other hand it's harder to market.

>>380744201
>but there is no excuse if they keep the always online part of it.

Why is this a problem? You have to use steam anyway

>>380742945
it's a shit system and the targets have been awful lol

(i have all the suits btw)

>>380744370
It's just a pain in the ass for me because I live in a shithole with bad internet and it makes everything take forever to load in. It doesn't add anything to the game by having it be always online either, so I'd really prefer they just remove it. I also hope they finally add the briefcase with the WA2000

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>>380743062
>I just want a little weapon customization, like from blood money
blood moneys system was too big perhaps. turning your silver ballers into pic related monstrosities was kind of wrong imo.

i would like to have more cosmetic options, perhaps combined with a small weight system. Like choose a different wood type for your pistol which weights 50g more.

I really liked the weapon system from some stalker mods. but it wouldnt make much sense to give an elite assassin a half broken pistol. Another option would be the splinter cell path. But it doesnt really fit the tone of the game.

>>380744704
Man, the Silverballers in Blood Money got over the top as fuck as the game went on.

>>380745396
yep. the dumbest thing was the automatic upgrade, which made the pistols worse and not better.

>>380740080
I haven't been following this thing even though I love the new Hitman. Why did Squanix want to sell them? Hitman was really well received after people understood that the episodic model wasn't that bad. Didn't it sell well?

>>380745396
>not only giving them suppressors and then leaving it at that

>>380745396
I know right?

You could literally snipe using them by the endgame.

Thank God 2016 added bullet-drop.

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>>380745396
>Use magnum ammo
>Dual wield
>Shooting a guy makes him fly across the room

>>380745396
I dunno, I always thought it was kinda charming in a way

>>380743960
The episodic model is completely fine and as a matter of fact might be one of the only ways to fund a niche title like Hitman.

The always-online shits gotta go though

>>380743960
It actually kinda works for nuHitman as it is more of a sandbox game. You have time to explore the whole level and do all the shit. When you are getting bored with it the next one comes out.
If you don't like it then just buy the whole package when everything is out. I don't care.
Only shitty part of Hitman was the online bullshit.

>>380740080
how would you rank hitmans levels

Best to worst

1 Hokkaido
1 Sapienza these two are tied
2 Colorado
3 Paris
4 Bangkok
5 Marrakesh

>>380740080
America is saved

>>380746494
1) Hokkaido
2) Bangkok
3) Sapienza
4) Paris
5) Colorado
6) Shit
7) Marrakesh

>>380746494

1. Sapienza
2. Paris
3. Hokkaido
4. Bangkok
5. Marrakesh
6. Colorado

>>380746494
just the levels themself?
sapienza
hokkaido
paris
bangkok
marrakesh
colorado

>>380744370
You can play Steam games offline. It doesn't really matter to me but I can see it being a problem for some people.

>>380746494
Regular Spaienza
Landslide Sapienza
Hokkaido
Paris
Marrakesh Night
Bangkok
Colorado
Sapienza Night
Marrakesh

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Holy shit, that's actually great news.
I hope they didn't get too neutered in the process though, what with all the news about lay offs and such, but even so that might be worth it in the long run if they actually hold the reins now. Actually excited, let's hope they bring it back with a vengeance in S2.

>>380746601
>>380746613
>>380746974
what's wrong with Colorado

>>380742826
Akimbo silverballers
Blood pools being noticed
Elevators
Human shields
MUH FUCKING SNIPER RIFLE SUITCASE

>>380746494
>1. Sapienza
Just great, only the lab part gets tedious eventually
>2. Paris
Equally great but I've played it to death so it's kinda boring now
>3. Hokkaido
Nice and compact but the door system makes it feel somewhat linear or too systematic
>4. Colorado
As a map it's pretty good but the theme is meh
>5. Bangkok
Pretty boring lump of nothing interesting to do
>6. Marrakesh
See previous with also a really boring theme

>>380747176
I'm just not a big fan of compound infiltration type missions.
I'm more of a big public event level type of guy

>>380747176
not them. but it the setting isnt really intersting (hilly billy farm in bugercountry)
some areas and they access doesnt make much sense (explosion area or the hacker thing in the house)
it always ends with you going into the cellar.

>>380747176
entire map is hostile territory
main mission can only be finished through the bunker

>>380747219
I've never understood what's so great about elevators. Yeah you can piano wire people in them but what's the big deal?

Also didn't they say lack of elevators are an engine restriction so they probably aren't coming back?

>>380746494
Best to worst:

>The World of Tommorrow
>A House Built On Sand
>Situs Inversus
>The Showstopper
>Landslide
>Freedom Fighters
>A Gilded Cage
>The Final Test
>Club 27
>The Icon

>>380746494
sapienza
paris
hokkaido
marrakesh
bangkok
colorado

>>380742601
They don't need excuses to keep it episodic, that works perfectly for Hitman.

>>380747401
>the door system makes it feel somewhat linear or too systematic
yes but they are a lot of ways to bypass the door system besides putting on a costume.

>dragging a dead body with the right costume near a door

>hacking a door, you can find some disposable scramblers if you lock pick certain wall containers.

>walking in behind some one

Are they going to get another publisher? Who would pick them up?

>>380743998
this nigga gets it

>>380745396
>use magnum ammo
>shoot multiple people with one bullet

>>380747695
It's mostly because I want them to overcome those restrictions. It's pretty lame that a 2016 engine can't handle something that wasn't a problem in 2000.

I havent playd these new baby's first hitmans past Blood Money. What is season 2?

>tfw Square is actually one of the worst publishers but people give the gooks a free pass

Fuck Square Enix. I hope they put the Thief series up for sale so someone with a brain can have control of it.

reminder there's a 'big update' coming out at the end of June that will probably remove the always-online shite.

>>380748361
>new baby's first hitman
be quiet if you have no idea

>>380740080
I am so fucking happy. Now next game they can get rid of the online only bullshit.

>Hakan
No wonder hitman is shit

>>380740080
Can i expect them releasing the full game in a single package now? If so, i'll be the first to buy it.

>>380748315
I'm not sure how they could get around it honestly.

The reason the elevators in Absolution were cutscenes was because of those limitations, but they can't get rid of the engine now because they're on a shoestring budget.

Fucking publishers ruin everything.

The only way it could be saved is if they scrap the episodic meme model and just release the entire fucking game when it's actually finished.

>>380748645
They already did that in January.

>>380748678
>The reason the elevators in Absolution were cutscenes was because of those limitations
Or because Absolution's level design was terrible and elevators were a great way to split levels up. It also had a working elevator in Death Factory.

>>380740080
fuk ye

TM was my goty 2016

>>380748645
>>380748685
why are you so assblasted by the episodic model? they released all they promised and more

not big on the episode format so I just bought them all at the end
the game was fucking good though

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>>380740080
fuckin sweet. gg IO you crazy bastards. Let's hope this gets us non-episodic Hitman.

>>380748902
They'll spout something about the business model even though they're now an independant studio.

What's up with all these retards that hate episodic releases on principle? I understanding the hatred for always online bullshit, but episodic release models aren't always a bad thing. It depends on the type of game, and I think it works for Hitman.

>>380740080
I'm honestly surprised Square Enix wasn't shitty about it and was willing to sell it to IO instead of saying, we'll just store it for later.

>>380749162
You're on /v/, gotta hate everything that's new. If games were still available on carts people would be defending those.

>>380749136
I don't see why they wouldn't.

The episodic format actually works well for the game. I hope they remove online requirements, though.

>>380749136
Well they already started developing season 2 as episodic so that's probably how it's going down.

How in the fuck did Square Enix not end up owning it?

>>380740080
This is actually good news

>>380749426
It was SE's decision to let them keep it.

>>380749426
Going forward, they're probably going to focus more on Plinko or whatever those Nips play.

>>380749354
>>380749380
I meant the people who dislike the release model, not IO. Usually people tie the business model as a shitty thing publishers like Squenix create, when in reality independant studios may rely on it for cost reasons which makes perfect sense.

>>380749426
I don't know, but I'm glad. All I need now is for them to sell Sleeping Dogs off to a good dev.

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>>380740080
So no more Square or Eidos getting on their goat about how Hitman should be made?

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>>380749110
But episodic Hitman is great. The only problem is always online and the elusive targets.

>>380746494
Hokkaido>Paris>Bangkok>Sapienza>Marakesh>Colorado

>>380749870
>But episodic Hitman is great.
Not really: the best I can say it that it never made the game worse, because of how Hitman focuses on replaying levels. But the episodic format certainly never elevated the experience.

>>380750349
>Not coming in every month on /v/ to discuss all the cool ways to fuck around in the new level
We're literally getting the content earlier and at a pace that doesn't harm it. Why would you be mad about that?

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>>380749426
they chose not to
it's probably the most altruistic move I've ever seen made by a big publisher, and even then I have to assume it's because they feel the IP's value is too low to be worth it, as well as too volatile to survive being given to another developer.

>Hitman games are a relatively small seller
>it has extremely niche appeal (you have to love obsessively replaying a handful of levels over and over)
>the userbase is violently autistic
>attempts to introduce things to the franchise essentially guarantees literal years of toxic word of mouth
>it's fairly expensive to develop

so that means either
>we can keep the IP for name recognition and pray to fucking god that it doesn't self destruct when we get a dev who isn't IOI to make a new Hitman game, knowing full well that realistically the moment it's announced it's going to rain shit from the sky, cost us too much in development, and we'll have to fight tooth and nail to retain our already small audience while getting no real pickup from the mainstream anyways
>we can say "you know what? do you, IOI, gl w that"

>>380740080
Yay, another episodic Hitman on the way!! :)

>>380748361
Hitman(2016) surpasses Blood Money in level design. Only Absolution was shit.

Whos paying the bills then? Dont they need an investor?

>>380750346
at first I really wanted to like other levels more than Sapienza because it bothered me that all I ever saw was people putting it at the top of their list, but coming back to the game now after having played it as it released, I have to say

Sap's really fucking good.

Like, really really good.

in terms of play, for me:
Sapienza > Bangkok > Paris > Marrakesh/Colorado > Hokkaido

in terms of aesthetic:
Bangkok > Sapienza > Hokkaido/Paris > Marakesh > Colorado

>>380747176
Kind of small and not very varied setting.
It's divided into like 3 areas that you need a different disquise to enter.
4 targets but not that many ways to take out each and gets tiring on replays
Only one exit in story mission

It would be an ok level if the game had 10-15 missions but as one out of 6 where al the others are way bigger it stands out as being kind of crap.

>>380749162
Well I can't say I hate episodic systems in general, but would not play Hitman missions as they come out one by one. Playing the game you get in a certain mood and when levels come out one by one with a long period between them you barely get immersed in your mission before you finish it and can only run it over and over which gives you repetition fatigue.

>>380750997
I guess we play Hitman in different ways, because I would never move on from a level until I got SASO on it.

>>380750867
But the lab part really ruins it for me. You got one objective there, only two usable outfits with near equal functionality, barely any option in approach, and if you're doing it directly, it's kind of comical when you distract other scientists.

what locations would you like to see in S2

>>380751229
just shot the stalactite from near the plane and you're done.

>>380751259
St. Petersburg, obviously in snow.
Venice.
Something akin to the English manor from Contracts.

>>380750427
Because the game is still under development while levels roll out, which can result in patches that completely change how the game plays before it's even finished. For example, I wouldn't have complained about the RNG headturn-sightbox stuff if I hadn't played the game without it, i.e. if there had only been the full game, and that was the system they'd decided on before release.

>>380740080
Hitman is now the biggest indie series ever, let that sink in.

>>380751383
That's just not very Hitmany. Also bypassing tedious things through exploits feels like I'm robbing myself of gameplay, I'm not here for the result screen, I'm here for the level itself.

>>380751560
what about half life?

>>380751229
>the lab part really ruins it for me
understandable, because it feels like a level within a level so it kind of prevents being able to just relax a little, but I actually like the lab and how it connects to the castle/whatever.

I think it's just one thing too many.

If it was the city & secret lab, or the castle & secret lab, it'd be great, but all three kind of pushed it a bit too far.

Similarly, I think that Marrakesh could have been one of the absolute best levels in the game if they had a bigger network of interconnected roofs, as well as some sort of catacomb syste.

>>380751648
It's not an exploit; it's a level feature. Do you also think that getting Manuel Delgado to follow you out of the cellar to tell you to leave, and then quickly shooting him in the head and throwing him off the cliff before the guard comes around the corner is an exploit?

>>380751697
being that valve owns steam, the biggest publishing platform on PC, I think it's more accurate to categorize HL as "self-published" similar to Rockstar's GTA, or Blizzard's Overwatch

>>380751893
Yes, that is very much AI exploit, even more so than stalactite.

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>Get the dlc suit to show support
>All the NPCs keep commenting on how great it looks

It's a funny detail.

>>380751229
you can actually get a key that allows you to kill the virus remotely via computer but your right. Hokkaido did it's stationary target right with soders but all the other attempts fuck it up

Well since i was too blind to see a thread might as well copy it here.

So i only have a PS3 and want to try out the hitman games, whats the very best one to pull me in the series immediately?

>>380751986
Now you're just splitting hairs.

>>380751648
That's why the stalactite doesn't highlight in Instinct view. It's meant as something for experienced players to use to skip that part of the mission.

>>380751834
Yeah, Marakesh definitely underplayed its setting. If they made it more scuttly, like the middle east levels in SA, it would be a lot better. Also it has same problem that embassy and school feel like two little levels inside the level, too separate from the rest.

>>380743960
They released it at the end as one whole package, and even released a disc version.

It's not a big deal as long as they do give you the choice.

I guess you do miss out on the elusive targets, but even as someone who bought it episodically, I completely ignored all that stuff for the most part.

I like to do shit in my own time, and I'm often to busy to be roped into killing these dudes on a timed schedule.

>>380752147
Blood Money
stay away from Absolution, while not a bad game on its own it can compare itself with the rest.

Good for them, I'll buy Hitman on steam sale just to help em out

>>380752542
Too bad that money will only go to Square

I hope HITMAN stays episodic.

>>380752614
SE doesn't own it anymore

>>380752468
*can't

>>380745874
>Didn't it sell well?

Not well enough for Squeenix. Then again this is a publisher who was disappointed that Tom Raider "only" sold 3 million copies.

I will give kudos to Squeenix for releasing IO though. I said it in another thread that they could have easily took the option to pull an EA, and took the development studio out back and shot it.

>>380742826
>accents that reflect the location
with them being independent thats even less likely, VA is expensive shit.

>no always online
agreed there

>go with the previous model of 3 maps per a release so that it can be more easily marketed
I think now it will be more confusing if they change one more time

This is a tough one, if they keep it episodic then the content comes faster (and it has been working great so far for anyone that actually played the game), but the truth is that a lot of people didnt bought the game because it was episodic, even after the full season came out, meaning that in the long run its hurting them.

Still, release it full and that means that its gonna be a long ass time untill they actually sell it and get revenue from it. And the same people may still bitch that its not the full game and its just season 2 or whatever.

>>380742945
The last few Elusives were good (most of the older ones were shit), but I still think that they should be replayed once a week or something. To be gone forever is very pointless I think. Its a game that has to give as much content as it can and limiting it like that doesnt seem smart.

A week would be a nice way of still keeping some of that tension of not being able to fuck it up, if not a week then a month, just dont lock it forever.

I wish there was more imaginative options in the game. Like messing with the virus in Sapienza to remotely kill the other targets or silly easter egg shit like throwing the pasta sauce in and creating a zombie plague that effects the whole map.

I also wished there was an option in Bangkok to take that rockstar guy's murder recording and play it through the whole hotel's sound system.

>>380752347
And the key word is "skip". I don't play games to skip the gameplay and get to "you win" screen, I'm playing them for the fun of playing them, so that just leaves me with a bad section of the game. Also you're saying bad part of the level is fine because you can skip it.

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>>380743998

My NIGGA.

Kane & Lynch also has great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqwhHpCZxD8

>>380746494
1. Hokkaido
2. Sapienza
3. Paris
4. Colorado
5. Marrakesh
6. Bangkok

>we will never get those 10/10 Hitman CG trailers anymore

Kind of sad about that

At least we get the game though. Let's hope they do away with always online bullshit and maybe even episodic releases

>>380751259
>London (this is practically guaranteed)
>Mexico
>West Africa
>Manhattan
>an overnight train
>an anime convention
>a space station
>some ghetto shithole like Detroit

Also, since we'll probably be taking down the SC's allies this season, I'm expecting more scummy and low key targets. Instead of celebrities and scientists, I expect to be killing hackers and mob bosses.

Hopefully this will work out for them in the long run.
It's just speculation, but it seems like it was Squeenix rushing IO for quicker releases that meant that it didn't have multiple levels per episode as originally intended - so maybe now they'll be able to structure it like they want. Or they'll keep going with the same structure, who knows.

>>380752954
That's like saying games like Dark Souls and Castlevania should never have shortcuts and you should run the entire length of the map to get place to place.

It's not that the virus section isn't bad, just that it can only play it so many ways. So they provide a hard to find way to quickly do it.

>>380753108
I've been thinking a lot about a train based level but it would be too restrictive by width.

>>380742945
Elusive targets were a waste of development time anyways. Only minimal changes to old levels like chancing a position of a guard or two and full retard with how you can restart them ad infinitum as long as you don't actually complete any objectives. They probably put more development time into the fucking intro videos.

Good because people aren't actually missing out on any actually worthwhile content, bad because the timed content was shit anyways. There's no reason ™ shouldn't be completely standalone offline, stop treating the game like a fucking online service.

>>380752147
Get the HD collection.

Silent Assassin 2 is pretty good
Contracts is great
Blood Money is God tier

Graphics have aged badly, and the controls can feel stiff as fuck compared to modern games.

Just mentioning it if that's a big issue for you.

>>380753329
Imagine if there's station stops though. Many maps have timed events, so you might have to plan to go off board and grab something from a specific station to do the job. Maybe even spawn in a station ahead to snipe or prep something.

>>380751259
amsterdam during daylight you come and go with a bicycle
tourist cruise ship
random shithole in india+with some nature
alps
Moskwa

But i would love a civil war level, similar to the start in mgs4

>>380753108
>>380753645
i love the train idea

>>380753536
This a thousand times. Not only is it shitty for someone who is late to the party, but development time would also be much better spent on shit that isn't so pointless.

>>380751259
It's been a longtime dream for me to have a theme park level as there would be no end to possibilities for accident kills and neat disguises. But considering their current engine can't even handle revolving doors or elevators, it doesn't seem likely.

>>380751259
I was talking my brother about this, and he came up with a great one.

A level set in a prison. Specifically though, Agent 47 would start outside the prison and have to figure a way to get inside.

It'd be a great use of the fuck huge maps they are clearly capable of. Imagine a Sapienza sized level, where 75% of the map is the prison.

It'd be pretty damn sweet

>>380751437
>Something akin to the English manor from Contracts.
I really want this. I love locations with moody ambience and lots of hidden passages and such.

>>380754190
Theme park would require there being children on the map and I think you can see what sort of problem we're heading for there.

>>380754438
Filtering out kids would be the least of their problems with that setting.
>>380754341
Yeah, I've also thought about something akin to that. Would be sick as hell to have a level like that where you could either take the target out as a guard or shank him as a prisoner.

>>380754438
There was a level based on a children's birthday party in Blood Money, and not a child in sight.

Or the fact that GTA always seems to have a playground somewhere in it's map, but again, no kids.

It's not a big deal to leave the kids out.

>>380751259
Somewhere in australia because not one of the hitman games has been here.

I bought Hitman TM during the first 50% sale, just little after Episode 6. Before I went to another episode, I was replaying levels until at least mastery level 10. And honestly, I can see game working very well with it's seasonal episodic format. I'm really looking forward to season 2. Easily goty 2016 to me.

Regarding the settings for future levels, I really do hope they'll be a bit more imaginative. The levels in 2016 were good, but they were all some sort of variation of
>Hotel setting
>Secret compound infiltration
>Average city setting

There's so many great possibilities, but I think they might be afraid to go outside their comfort zone.

>>380754883
Your mission should be to kill a member of the board of censors in Australia.

I mean it's not to release there anyway, so why not really piss them off?

>>380754983
>I can see game working very well with it's seasonal episodic format
I see it failing and burning if they take that road

I mean Square was about to shut them down after all

Not to mention the always online

>>380754341
I think 47 should infiltrate the prison by going in as an inmate and escaping should be part of the challenge. Bonus points if it's OSP like Hokkaido was.

>>380755026
I want to see Slavlands or commieblocks.

>>380754341
>>380755186
Prison was already done in Absolution, as shit as it was

I really should try out the contracts maker but from my understanding, all it does is mark existing npcs for assassination? You can't change or spawn anything else in?

If so, I hope they beef that up.

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>>380740080
Holy fucking fuck.

What timeline is this?

>>380755283
Exactly, so it doesn't count.

I want a level on a cruise liner, but an actually large one with many decks. The series touched upon that sort of things with steamboat in BM and tutorial level of 2016, but I just think more in style of a level from THPS3: large deck, sunny weather, people sunbathing, playing games, and swimming in the pool.

>>380755283
A hotel and a farm were also done in Absolution.

What's your point?

>>380755283
Everything in Absolution was shit, it was a shit game, that doesn't negate the potential of a setting.

>>380755026
honestly, i love the hotel settings. and i really hope it will make some sort of return, even it is a big cliche.

>>380754983
Well, yes and no.
I don't think I'll ever be in favor of episodic releases, but Hitman is a franchise that's pretty well suited for it since you can really go indepth with the levels over and over. Problem is that it's still a massive turn off for most people, and for good reason, in an already extremely niche genre. So unless they somehow change their current format, I don't think they'll have better luck in the future.

>>380755291
I've always said that my wet dream for a great contracts mode would be a level editor.

Hell, they could even make it relatively basic and I'd be happy as a pig in shit.

What I want to see is an airport level

Think of the possibilities

>>380755668
Oh, I don't mind it either, they're always great. I just think they should mix it up a bit with their next line-up of levels.

>>380747176
It always bothered me that you couldn't kill everyone in Colorado
Like they are all terrorists, who would care?

>>380755283
Doesn't count. They have the right to repeat all good ideas in Absolution that were not properly done, such as:
>Supermarket
>Nightclub
>Courthouse
>Prison

>>380751259
Seedy places, low income housing, crack dens, illegal raves/parties, ect

>>380755691
Yeah. It feels like the stuff they did with bonus levels is what we could expect users to make, should they have the skills and resources. Lots of games are able to load packed assets over the internet.

If devs went maximum cheeky, they could make a level set in E3 or some unnamed generic vidya convention. Make deliberately cringy presenters of the show, have characters complaining about violence of upcoming games, and in general make fun of the vidya industry.

>>380752960
man i wish Kane and Lynch had some more effort put behind it. i didnt mind the games but they were pretty rough to play

>>380756015
>the target is SE's CEO

>>380756015
>>380756137
Fund it

>>380755026
there needs to be a proper snow level and another one on a boat far in the water (like the start of Bourne Identity)

>>380756015
its called postal and it is shit.

>>380753019
The ingame cutscenes were all kino though senpai. I didnt expect to care about the story but the way they directed it pulled me in completely.

>>380756015
If the target is a obvious take on the head of EA or something like that, then I'm all in on that idea.

>>380751259
Cruiseship

>>380756707
i guess the tv show approach worked

How does the stealth gameplay compare to say MGSV?

>>380756121
the first one was great up until the last 2 levels in columbia or whatever

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>>380756752
That's not hard, he already looks like a generic villain.

>>380756707
In tm? No way.

It was a generic as fuck illumanti plot or something. I can't even fully remember. I do remember it was left on a God damn cliff hanger, which is retarded.

Not that it's a huge deal either way. Hitman has never been great when it comes to the plot, it's all an excuse to get these great levels that give you the chance to kill targets in a variety of ways.

>>380756976
Hitman is more about social stealth than hiding behind walls

>>380756976
>MGS
>stealth
Either way Hitman is social stealth, unless you set out for a suit challenge, it's nothing like proper stealth games like Thief and Splinter Cell.

>>380756976
Hitman is a totally different beast. There are basic stealth mechanics, which can be compared to the rudimentary mechanics of MGSV, like the way being detected works and basic distractions. But Hitman is way more about social stealth, by using disguises and doing stealthy shit in plain sight while everyone is looking the other way.

>>380756976
it really doesnt compare. you can call both stealth games, but you can also say that call of duty and hitman are both action games because you shot people.

not saying one is better than the other.

>>380756990
yeah i played the first game sometime ago that final mission where you had to escort the daughter was painful

>>380756976
The stealth is deep, but not in the same way as V.

Hitman is less about sneaking and more about figuring out how to exploit various systems to kill your targets covertly.

Think of it as a stealth-puzzle game.

>>380756976
It's not a sneaking game for the most part if that's what you're asking.

It's more about blending in with any given environment. So a lot of levels will be big open public places, say a town square, or a fashion show.

The main object of the game is to find a way to get to the restricted areas where the targets usually hang out. To help you along the way you also have the ability to change into any (male) persons outfit that you knock out or kill.

So if your dressed as a fashion model for example, suddenly you can go a lot more places in that fashion show level.

There's almost a certain puzzle like element to it.

>>380757080
TM's plot is about how 47's actions are allowing an specific group to get too powerful.

>>380757638
Yeah, I guess, I just didn't care.

>>380757565
>Think of it as a stealth-puzzle game.

Best way to describe it. A lot of people get hung up on gun physics and AI exploits but the game was never meant to be realistic. It's a rigid set of rules on a 'board' the player learns their way around.

>>380758180
The goofy AI and general silliness of it actually adds to the charm for me. It gives it a comedic edge which the game totally acknowledges and plays up to.

Like you could literally kill 100 people, but 5 minutes later the alert phase is over, and everyone has forgot it was you, because suddenly you're dressed as a chef. That's fucking brilliant.

>>380751259
hmm
A party/trance festival in spain or Portugal.
A enter this prison to kill someone and escape level.
Maybe a lodge/ski resort in sweden/switzerland.
A casino level, maybe in hongkong.

>>380743960
The episodic model actually works for Hitman

>>380758660
Or the fact that after the alert phase, no matter how terrible the death, somebody just bags up the bodies and drags them away as everybody resumes their daily routines like it's perfectly normal.

>>380743960
Maybe you should learn to judge things by yourself instead of blindly spouting /v/ memes.

They need to make a map where you get yourself into prison to kill a gang leader or mafia figurehead and escape. They also need to do a E3 map where you can get on stage and deliver and announce a game.

>>380760334
>47 announcing a game

I'm trying to imagine how this would play out.

>>380761265
considering 47 can play drums and tend bar, he can probably bs his way through a press conference

>>380740739
if ms was smart they would jump in and purchase IOI, they need all the LAUNCH Exclusives™® they can.

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>>380751259
>anything Russia or FSU
>Prague
>Colombia
>Romania
>a prison
>a casino
>Comic-Con

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>>380751259
Already decided

DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS

>>380756976
MGS and Splinter Cell are tactical stealth
Hitman is social stealth

>>380761961
>Hull

Now I really want Season 2

They will be closing their doors after this game is done bombing.

>>380762281
>Guys look at me, I'm so cynical and 'real'.

bugger off, you miserable git.

>>380762278
which Hull? there's a fuckton of them

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>>380762281
nice, the classic '/v/ hates videogames' meme! XD!

>>380762787
Hull, UK probably.

>>380742601

The episodic structure is actually fine. The always online bullshit is not.

>>380743339
thanks god now stop crying over them "shitty reskin"

>>380752013
I would but I bet Square is getting the money for everything til now.

>>380762760
>bugger off, you miserable git.
Fine, but you know it's true, and stop with the retard speak please.

>>380762859
Nope, don't have video games. Tell me, when a game is doing so bad that the publisher dumps them because they are losing money, big publisher with big bucks, now they are on their own and you think the game will somehow many tons of money? Enough to fund the company and any future projects? Really? Well, either the team is about 30 people or they will turn to kickstarter from now on, Hitman 2016 will NOT sustain them.

If it's more episodic trash, I'll just continue not supporting them.

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>>380751259
american super mall
airport
another devil club type thing like in contracts and blood money
another suburban neighborhood
another sapienza
a double deck plane
a tropical cruise ship
Hawaiian resort
silicon valley
and a Goddamn comic book or cosplay convention, how is this still not a thing.

>>380743575
most people work on the original left

its always a great idea to revive zombie franchises for modern studio to rape

at least u show us ur gayming creed though, real oldschool bro haHA

>>380761403
Lol

>>380763362
I like the supermall idea but I fucking hated wading through people in Marrakesh. It would be worth it though.

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>>380742945
if it's about your exclusive suits rewards, keep them, but at least make the targets repayable without earning any rewards so everyone is happy.
I want to replay this target

Thank fuck

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=md1KuP8fkRU

>>380742826
Weapons transferring has been confirmed iirc

>>380746129
I loved doing that

>>380761265
he just has to pretend to be a lifeless robot, shouldn't be too hard for him.
"wow, incredible"

>>380751259
stadium level, sniper vantage point from good year blimp

>>380760334
>They also need to do a E3 map where you can get on stage and deliver and announce a game.
this'd actually be pretty cool
imagine them updating Hitman with an E3 map, that same scenario plays out, and 47, while up on stage, announces Season 2 as part of the mission and a trailer plays on the big screen and you can turn around and watch it as well.
It'd be a pretty cool way to announce it to the players.

Did they remove Denuvo yet so I can buy this finally?

>>380754438
>47?! You killed a kid? Are you out of your mind?! I'm pulling you out of there

>>380763058
This.

I actually liked getting a couple months between levels. Made me actually explore the levels and try out hits a few dozen times before moving on.

>>380742826

The newspaper from Blood Money. It was such a small thing, but really cool.

>A comparison of the shots and the wounds of the victims has lead to the assumption that the shooter is someone with a severe visual handicap.

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I'm in shock that things actually unfolded this way.

>>380763763
I never played the Gary Busey contract. I was on Holiday for a week at the time. I was so fucking pissed.

>>380764812
It was a neat idea in practice, but in gameplay the kind of "wanted level" you accumulated could be easily got rid off with a payment.

I did like reading the various articles though, it made you feel more involved with the world when you were reading a tabloid headline about yourself, and with accurate details too.

>>380740080
I'm really happy. I hope they can secure funding or hit up a new publisher to keep putting out Hitman. Season 1 was my GOTY last year and I hope it continues to do well in Season 2.

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>>380761403
*knocks on door*
Yes...
>hello, sir, excuse, have you seen this woman? she's disappear after e3
Sorry, no...
*muffled noises*
>hmm, okay, well thank for your time, have a good da-
*snaps neck*
No problem...

BWOOOOOOOOOONG

wheres my fucking BRIEFCASE, IO???

I'm an intro pack user can't wait for the full season discount in the summer sale

>>380765884

Yeah, the wanted thing could've been better. I just liked the newspaper, and would've wanted to see it expanded in other games. Not sure what there is to expand, but still.

we did it reddit

>>380766207
there was a dirt cheap discount last year for it I think.

>>380766527
Thanks 4, the gold xD

>>380766330
>I'm not sure what's left to expand
Branching story paths based on mission performance.

I still havent bought season 1. I assume that if i buy it, it still go to the older publisher, right?

maybe they'll learn their lesson and make the game more like absolution so they can actually make money this time

>>380766963
bait or not, kys

>>380755668
i had a big issue with bangkok, since all the rooms need keycards (and there arent many rooms in that hotel) you kind of miss that more realistic and modest aspect of hotel life that Hitman 1/Contracts and Blood Money had in their hotel levels. The hotel in 2016 was so... high maintenance and unique that it didnt felt that much like a hotel, more like a building with a lot of cool rooms.

>>380766832
It was published by Squeenix, and I'm sure certainly contracts are still in play. So Squeenix are going to get at least some of it no matter what.

>>380766963
3/10. Too obvious

>>380766963
kys reddit

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>>380740959
good, I need to spend my oil shekels on quality danish products

>>380766832
IO's community manager confirmed that everything goes to them.

>>380767567
them who? IO?

Well this series is over it's indie now that means it's shit

>>380768069
yes

>>380767567
>community manager

It's absolutely pathetic that any company should need such a position

>>380749426
It's not FF so they don't care.

>>380768289
Yeah, it's pretty fucking retarded that a company would pay attention to what their customers say.

>>380768289
They literally just became an independent studio.
They need some PR guys to answer some questions.

>>380768642
>>380768530
Custo2merz should stop being assholes and take what they can get

>>380749870
>The only problem is always online and the elusive targets
I'll give you the always online part, but they fixed that. Also, Elusive Targets are the best part of the game so git gud casul.

Nice, time to play some Hitman

Elusive targets still going on, right?

>>380769164
>Game bugs out on me and I lose a SA ranking
>Lose out on a challenge forever
I refuse to accept this is good. If they don't loop the targets back in, this has been failure.

>>380769326
Yeah, but there's only two left for this season.

>>380768836
>>380768289

What are you babbling about?

>>380740080
Watch this.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA SUCK IT NIGGERS WITH YOUR SESONAL BULLSHIT WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW NIGGERS HAHAHAHAHA

>>380751259
>Islamic no-go zone somewhere in western europe
>anime convention
>university campus

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>>380769834
>university campus

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>>380769834
>anime convention

>>380769834
>>380770198
Please let it happen.

>>380751259
>North Korean work camp
>Large shopping mall
>Actual cruise ship
>Amusement park
>FUCKING AIRPORT

>>380751259

A mission in one shithole or other, where 47 finally puts Kane and Lynch out of their misery.

>>380750349
I only got the game recently as the Full Experience Retail box, I don't really mind, and if the next one is also episodic I will just wait until the full experience box of that one, too

>>380740959
Denmark would be pretty good without it's garbage language, why is Sweden so cucked?

i just wish they have more story elements. even if it's small collectibles with backstory elements e.g. there is a certain amount of 'hidden evidence' around each map which tells you more about the story and keeps you intrigued. i think the replayablility of each mission is nice but they should put more into the story imo. they have a really good story as it is and it can benefit from some extra depth.

>>380771862
The story has a lot of depth in the dialogues between the NPCs
I love listening to that shit

>>380771051
>lace Lynch's pain meds with PCP
>murder suicide

>>380772275
that's only for the specific mission though. i want to know more about the backstory and more about that secret organization and that bearded guy. right now the only in-depth story elements we have are in the cut-scenes at the end of missions.

The Hitman franchise is dead kids. Deal with it.

Hitman 1, 2, Contracts, and maybe some missions of Blood Money, were all truly AMAZING. They were all perfectly made... they were considered the Mona Lisa of infiltration games... they were detailed like some of the most famous Greek sculptures from antiquity...

They were GOOD, and you could play them over and over again... and still be surprised by some new discoveries (and ways to complete the game)!

Now, what about the latest two games?

They suck.

Yes. The franchise went downhill when the devs decided to dumb the game down for stupid console retards. They made the game easy and EXTREMELY accessible to stupid casual players.

It became a linear shitfest, where the game tells you where to go, what to do, and when to do it. It's perfect for people that love being spoon-fed, but it got so far from what Hitman used to be.

R.I.P to the Hitman franchise.

You'll keep a big place in my memories.

>>380772725
No, it applies to every mission.

>>380772275
Pretty much this.

There's more lore in 2016 than there ever was in the entire Hitman series put together. In terms of organisations alone, there's:
>The Delgado Cartel
>CICADA
>Crystal Dawn
>Providence
>Ether
>Kronstadt Industries
>Sanguine

Don't get me started on all the little backstory details like how almost every person linked to the targets in the story was at the Yacht party or how KAI is enslaving a prototype machine whom you can rescue.

>>380773056
This might blow your mind people people have different opinions.

>>380773102
where? i must be missing all of this

>>380773224
People people!?!

Dude, woah LMAO

>>380773325
For example, in Paris, they have a lot of information on the Shadow Client. How he succeeded in convincing Novikov to work for him, what he did and how. Bits of lore are spread out all across the game. Not to mention they were already talking about Thomas Cross in that level and you can see him talking in the tutorial level.

>>380773224
Yes, but the difference is that the opinion of someone that played ALL of the Hitman games, will have more value for me, than the opinion of a dumb console kid (like you), who only played the last one.

>>380773928
I've played every game in the series and I can tell you your opinion is misinformed.

2016 is the furthest thing from being linear.

>>380773056
>Hitman 1
>amazing
Don't kid yourself. Everything's linear as fuck.

>>380750445
Is funny how you could say nearly the same things and more about Metal Gear Solid.

Season 2 in 2018?

>>380773056
>Hitman 1,
>AMAZING
>It became a linear shitfest, where the game tells you where to go, what to do, and when to do it.

nice b8 m8. unless you're heavy on nostalgia and didn't figure out how to turn opportunities and instinct off in hitman 2016, in which case lol

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>we will probably never get Jesper Kyd in Hitman anyways
https://youtu.be/KeEMlr_bb0Q
Why even live?

>>380743575
Kane and Lynch was a series that had so much potential but had no clue what it was doing. The first game completely fell apart around the halfway mark, and the second game had nothing going for it outside of the 'they had to work hard to make it look that shitty' style.

I tend to forget Freedom Fighters exists. Has it aged well?

>>380752954
It rewards map knowledge, you can't just peek in from the balacony and shoot the stalactite. In order to do the "skip" you need to:

-Get a silenced weapon past two pat-down points
-Stand in a specific spot deep in the cave to get line of sight on the stalactite
-Be able to avoid detection after guards go on high alert after the alarm goes off

It's the only way to do a no kill, no knockout, sosa as well.

>>380753584
The controls themselves are good, the animations are from another age.

>>380776719
>I tend to forget Freedom Fighters exists. Has it aged well?

I replayed it last year, and yes, it's still great. The big problem with Freedom Fighters is that when you know the correct order to do the missions, the challenge and replay value kind of goes away.

Sure, you could ignore the helipad and APC, but then you'd miss out on charisma and you'd just end up with endless enemies and a chopper that can pretty much instakill you.

>>380776876
There are more ways into the cave than just the pat down points and the last one can be solved by getting gud.

>>380776876
>It's the only way to do a no kill, no knockout, sosa as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vvsWYuKBw

>>380774645
>>380776294
Honestly I loved Hitman 1. The last level in Romania was meh but otherwise it's good.
The Hong Kong missions are "simple" in their layout but are still among my favorites of all the games. The Budapest Hotel is pure ludo.

>>380778201
yeah but those jungle levels, especially the ones with the actual assassination, are painful. they're essentially what keeps me from wanting to replay the game.

>>380778582
>jungle levels

Yeah, those were a pain. At least you could skip the silly boss battle by sniping Tony Montana from the beginning of the level, before he had time to get high.

Season 2 should remake some of the missions from Blood Money. A New Life with every house being fleshed out for Contracts would be cool.

>>380779065
Nah. They should make new levels.

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>have only played Showstopper and Sapienza
do you envy my virgin experience? I could visit the other three levels any time I want... what treasures await me, hmmmmm

>>380746494
Bangkok is shit because all the opportunities are bland and obvious, and nothing is interesting the map.

Colorado is worst though.

>>380779121
Paris and Sapienza are the best maps so you're probably in for a disappointment.

>>380779121
Four actually, but two of them are kinda shit.

Sapienza with no lab would have been GOAT Hitman level. The secondary objective should have been placed in the church or on the pier.

>>380779402
>i want less map
kys

>>380773202
>KAI is enslaving a prototype machine whom you can rescue.

What

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>>380779121
Sapienza had one of my biggest holy shit moments when I replayed it and discovered the note in the lab about the USB dongle that said "brb church". I hadn't even visited the area in my first few playthroughs.

>>380779536
Beat the guard in the gym at push ups, shut down KAI and then head back to the gym.

>>380777928
Still requires triggers the stalactite

>>380779784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSpFNBP5Y-Y

Finally some good news.

>>380778912
the checkpoints were the worst, you could walk through a whole tedious level, fuck up in some minor way then lose half an hour's progress. repeatedly.

anyway, on the subject of that game and jesper kyd this is the most underrated track in the series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ltm4I5mEVc

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Are there other games that are airport paperbackcore like Hitman?

>>380780746
For some reason, Operation Stealth comes to my mind.

>>380780746
Mafia.

I fucking bet you fuckers that the always online DRM will remain. Shit was probably the developer's decision and everyone just automatically scapegoats the publisher for it.

>>380740080
Fucking amazing.

>>380780898
Operation Stealth is pretty obviously a pastiche of James Bond (wasn't it even given the license in some countries?). So it's pretty solidly in airport-novelcore considering that it's ripping off what most airport thrillers also rip off.

>>380780746
Alpha Protocol is the big one.

>>380781426

Yeah, it was a Bond game in the US. The rest of the world had play as John Glames.

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Please IOI make a darker Hitman game like Contracts again

>>380781652
>John Glames
I chuckled, then I looked it up and found out that his actual goddamn name and laughed even harder.

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>>380781880

That meat king level is fucking horrific

>>380781036

I can see it. Mafia always kinda felt like a Don Winslow Book to me, especially Mafia 2. I wanna play the third one but I do not have the time :(

>>380781538

Is there a way to play that on the PS4?

>>380751437
exactly this, although kinda doubt we'd get Spb because we had like 4 missions in SA, so probably Moscow

>>380751259
Somewhere that it makes you feel like you shouldn't be fucking up with those people. Kinda like Bjarkhov Bomb

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>>380740080
Good, I fucking loved hitman 2016 and any contrarian fucks can go suck a dick. It was way better than absolution and is up there with bloodmoney once they fix some small flaws

>>380743575
>>380743998
>Freedom Fighters 2 confirmed
>Takes place in multiple states
>Specialised rebels with professionalism in different aspects like arson, demolition, sniper, machine gunner, medic, infiltrator like The Godfather 2
>Can actually do Guerilla warfare with Blitzkrieg tactics where doing different levels quickly shows the Russian army in disarray trying to reinforce the other areas only to be BTFO by rebels
>Russian Army traitors with voicelines
>maybe play like a polished XCOM: The Bureau and set up rebels in specific places to start a crossfire
>Ride helicopters
>Stop convoys by crashing big rigs onto them or pick off one by one using a sniper rifle/anti-tank/machine gun crossfire
>Ride tanks
>Spread propaganda and incite riots in certain levels to make it easier to infiltrate a level
>Suppression and pinned down tactics
WHEN??? IO would single-handedly destroy E3s until the end of the world if this keeps up

>>380749706
It was a terrible decision, it sold terribly and that got the company canned from making anything else while under SquareEnix and they deserved it.

Now theyre going to practice the same terrible business model as an independent and it will be the end of the studio mark my words.

>>380783357
>I know these things because someone on /v/ said so!

>>380783518
Not an argument.

>>380752936
They already have tons of silly Easter eggs, like the ones in Marrakesh and Hokkaido

>>380783616
Okay.

It was a brilliant decision, it sold a ton and Square Enix are idiots.

>>380740080
Never would have thought that Square Enix would agree to a buyout like that.

>>380783762
Nope. Actual sale numbers and the state of IO prove otherwise.

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>>380781880
on the one hand I did really like contracts

on the other I think 2016 has hit the absolute perfect tonal balance, with a moment-to-moment lightness/frivolity when it comes to mechanics and non-mission npc's, an over-arching kind of dry grandiosity for the background narrative (feeling like large out-of-control forces are fighting on a scale we can barely comprehend), and a weird slightly disturbing darkness when it comes to the individual targets themselves.

I've just really come to think they got everything right while playing and replaying this, I really dislike the trend of big game franchises to drop their sense of humour as the series goes on and IOI are one of the few left who are keeping the flame alive these days. There's no chance of Splinter Cell ever getting back that dash of magic that makes CT so easy to dive back into, like revisiting an old friend. This one's got it.

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>>380783357
>blaming the devs for SE's fuckery

did you forget the fact that the FFVII remake is also having an episodic business model?

>>380779402
Sapienza with lab is GOAT Hitman level, it's the objective that isn't GOAT

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IS HITMAN TM STILL TIED INTO THAT ONLINE ONLY SHIT????

>>380783994
What does FF7 have to do with anything.

>>380783892
>sale numbers
Which you don't have access to.
>state of IO
Such as moving to a new, mocap-ready studio specifically set up for them late last year?

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Oh shit, get hype.