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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire

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11 minutes of pure fap material
http://www.ign.com/videos/2017/06/15/pillars-of-eternity-2-gameplay-walkthrough-ign-live-e3-2017
If you aren't excited for this, get the fuck out of my face
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That ship interior looks so comfy
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They're saying all the right things to get me excited for this. Each new instagram post by Sawyer gets me more and more hyped.
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Cool Fallout 1 style overworld.
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Funded the fuck out of this. I have never backed something before, but this shit is my jam. Grew up with D&D, then crpgs, IE stuff, but also not a grognard who refuses to move on and admit that porting AD&D to computers has some issues. The new system is really great, so many correct quality of life and balance changes, the art/music is fantastic...

Yeah pretty hype.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvyrEhAMUPo
This is Josh Sawyer talking about attribute/stat tuning in the system, since it's essentially from scratch. Pretty cool if you're into that sort of thing.
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Smart move to concentrate more on those storyboard CYOA moments
That shit was heavily under-used in the first game
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>>380685523
>more le ebin 2d pixel indie dev shite
No thank you.
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Interesting sneak system, maybe. Looks like the cone is just visual, hope there's some hearing that goes on too. I would understand keeping it simple becase certain realism just isn't fun, but I love strategic stealth.
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>>380687234
agreed
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>>380685523
Did they every address why the Watcher, Aloth, Eder, and Pallegina aren't monsters in combat? Like do we start from level 1 again?
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>>380687252
Fuck off
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>>380688545
Eothas sucks your soul up and shatters it, allowing you to conveniently respec your character from Level 1.

As far as we know, there's no excuse for the other party members, but you only meet them later down the line, they will be leveled up at that point.
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>>380687683
There's definitely a hearing mechanic. They have a noise stat for every single spell.
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>>380685523
This really looks like one of these rare times where a sequel actually improves on evrything.
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>>380685523

But Pillars of Eternity 1 was irredeemable dogshit, why would I trust the devs with my money ever again?
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>>380689738
>Party size reduced
>Vancian casting removed
>No Avellone
Not everything, but a lot of things.
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>>380689943
Pleb
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>>380689943
>Know that golden-plated characters are dogshit fanfics
>still interacts with them and proceeds to complain about it
rly m8
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>>380690045
I don't see why everyone sucks Avellone's dick so hard
>who is Tim Cain?
>who is Leonard Boyarsky?
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>>380690295

>The game is good if you ignore all the bad parts!

You fucking retarded son?
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>>380690540
Neither of them are working on Pillars of Eternity 2. They're working on their own next big IP.
Also, a lot of people hated Tim Cain after some very, very, very casual-apologetic shit he said at a conference.
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>>380690625
They are optional and have no influence on the story, the gameplay or anything at all. I mean those NPCs don't even interact with you or with others in absolutely no other way.
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>>380685523
>funded this for 200$
>tfw don't regret it at all at this point
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>>380691006
b-b-b-but i screencapped this thing. i thought itd prove the game is shitty. fuck!
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>>380691006

>have no influence on the story, the gameplay or anything at all.

They're literally in the game world forming part of the world, lore and story.

You're an idiot.
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looks slow boring and ugly
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>>380691093
Woah, that's a lot of moolah. 100 bucks here
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>>380691195
Nothing of what they say is referenced or even corroborated in any other, non-fanfic place within the game.
You also literally have a loading screen telling you that those npcs and the gravestones are messages from fans (that usually break the 4th wall) and that you should ignore them if you wish immersion
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>>380687252
underage confirmed
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>>380691006
>It's okay to put shit everywhere if you can walk around it
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>>380691195
They don't form any of that. They are literally narratively disconnected fanfic wanks that Kickstarter backers paid to put in the game.
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>During the random events, your crew members interject with their opinions on what you should do
WE KING OF THE DRAGON PASS NOW, BOYS.
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>>380691491
>>380691732

You can argue semantics all day, but nothing will change the fact that they are in the game, they were put there by the developers, they form part of the game experience and as such are open to criticism when discussing the game.
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Playing PoE for the first time since launch. Obsidian made PoE less mechanically bad, being able to toggle a companion AI on is fucking WONDERFUL for stupid per encounter bullshit.

I mean it's just a shame they couldn't fix the shitty first draft story or patch in some of Avellone's content that was left on the cutting room floor.
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>>380691886
How is Dragon Pass anyways? Never played it.
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I still have to finish my POE 1 save file before 2 comes out, I rushed to the final boss after I got to that boring elf village and got my ass kicked so now I have to grind a bunch of shit. Hopefully it won't be too painful.
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>>380685523
>Grieving Milf isn't a party member and probably won't be a cameo either
Why? Did anyone actually want Pallegina to return?
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>>380692118
Excellent, but it takes a lot to learn it get used to it.
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>>380692251
She's Josh Sawyers baby so I'm sure that had some bearing on it. Hopefully they'll flesh her out and actually make her character interesting this time.
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>>380692251
It is more like the second game takes place where pallegina comes from
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>>380692251
I did. Birdgirl was alright.
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>>380692251
Her story was very directly tied to the Hollowborn. Wouldn't make much sense for her to return.
Durance, on the other hand...
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Combat doesn't look as much of a clusterfuck. Cautiously optimistic.
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>>380691984
Umm sorry sweetie but Obsidian can't be criticized
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GM and Durance were both Avellone's so I doubt anyone wanted to take over character writing them.

Pallygina, the Big Sharknig and the eskimo halfling ranger would be the characters who would make the most sense to leave the Dyrwood after PoE's event.
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>>380692694
>Big Sharknig
We are getting his sister instead. Part of a group in the Deadfire

>the eskimo halfling ranger
Her ending slide made it pretty concrete that she stayed with her family and her village until she passed.
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Looks gorgeous
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>>380692391
Not exactly. The game doesn't take place in the Vailian Republics, but they are a pretty big faction in the game.
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>>380692694
>tfw i am probably the only one who likes sharknig
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Fuck RPGCodex.
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just started the 1st, what's the 2nd adding?
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I hope it doesn't have those bullshit player stories inserted into random NPC's again. Also was a mod ever made that takes them out of the first game so I can finally play it without wasting my time?
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Why did they ruin all of the portraits?
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>Inter-dimensional traveling
Getting a bit crazy there
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>>380685523

Are there any good sound mods for POE1?

The audio seems really lacking a lot of the time.

>Bear Druid crits enemy, gibs them, parts go flying everywhere

>Game doesn't even make a sound registering the hit half the time, if it does it's just some shitty generic swipe sound, no death sound, no nothing

Shit just feels really unpolished.
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>>380693652
There are only 10 Kickstarter NPCs this time around and I believe they are gonna be more integrated in the game as actual NPCs rather than weird blobs of backstory.
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>>380685523

Fuck me, I never thought Obsidian would win me back after PoE but Deadfire is looking better and better each time. The giant statue stomping around got my dick hard, hopefully they'll implement more giant creatures in the game to mix things up.
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>>380693573
>interfaces supposedly better
>looks better graphically
>pirates and tropical setting
basically the game could be better or worse depending on the story.
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So can I fuck Aloth or not?
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will anything carry over?
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>You can still attack and kill anyone you want
>You can end the game and beat it this way
I love RPGs that do this. Fuck Tyranny. Couldn't kill a million people that I wanted to badly fuck up.
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>>380694067
All your choices will carry over.
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>>380694121

Good thing Divinity: OS2 is saving the CRPG genre.
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>>380693652
>Wasting your time
You can just not click on them. They have different nameplates.

It's so weird that this is thing people get hung up on.
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>>380694301

>Garbage writing
>Garbage art
>Garbage item spam/environmental abuse combat
>Saving

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
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>>380694376

>People getting hung up on their RPG's being full of awful fanfic tier self inserts

Gee, I fucking wonder why.
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>THOSE LOAD TIMES
nice.... nice....
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>>380694067
>The returning companions will have a few abilities and pieces of equipment that vary based on their end states in Pillars of Eternity. Of course, if you aren't importing a Pillars of Eternity save game, you will be able to set those states during character creation. As an example, one of the returning companions is Aloth.

>Aloth's gear changes based on whether or not he decided to become the new Grandmaster of the Leaden Key or decided to hunt down and destroy the Leaden Key. If Aloth became the Grandmaster, he retains some of Thaos' vestments from Pillars of Eternity. If Aloth decided to hunt down the Leaden Key, he starts with a unique scepter, Keybreaker, that has a few interesting properties.
>Similarly, if you convinced Aloth to sublimate his Awakened personality, Iselmyr, he gains a Talent called Self-Determination that grants bonuses against a subset of mental Afflictions. If Aloth did not sublimate Iselmyr, she still acts as his guardian via the Iselmyr's Watch Talent, granting different bonuses (and changing many lines in his combat voice set!) when he starts taking heavy damage.
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>>380694376
It's not all that weird when one of the best aspects of these older RPG's in fact I'd dare say the main appeal of them was exploring peoples opinions and talking as much as you're exploring a physical world. These stupid NPC's are a constant time wasting roadblock when I go explore a town for a first time and have to wade through a ton of useless npcs with stories that have no connection to the world around them. I'd rather they spent the time making more characters that actually belong there than copy/pasting fanfics and dropping them in the world.

Yeah you can learn to avoid them but I'd rather they just not be there. Call it autism if you will.
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>>380694653

there was a mod for POE that let you disable autosave on area transition and that helped somewhat. also had an option to hide the gold-plated backers so they were just background NPCs.
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>>380694653
That's footage with the loading times edited out, m8. But they did promise that they would be much faster. Let's hope so.
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>>380695091

>also had an option to hide the gold-plated backers so they were just background NPCs.

I've heard this mod mentioned a few times but never been able to find it.

Lore friendly tombstones was easy enough to find.
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it was the IE Mod
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>>380685523
I still want another story focused AAA CRPG like Dragon Age Origins.
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>>380695504
>Dragon Age
>CRPG
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>>380695689
But it is. Isometric perspective, RTWP party combat, you have full control over your party members specs, gear and abilities.
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>>380695504
AAA games can't be trusted anymore.
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>>380696013
Maybe but i'm having real trouble giving a fuck about characters personalities, even my own, if i can't hear them speak and see them interact with the world and each other.
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>>380695504
CD Project Red stated that Cyberpunk will have parties. Confirmed by the fact that the girl in the trailer is a recruitable member.
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>>380687234
you literally get that first moment when scaling the cliff, which hypes you for the rest of the game, and then you never get such a simliar situation again.

Hell, even if you save that guy, he still dies ten minutes later to let you know, "whelp kiddo, main story is taking over from here on out."
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>>380690540
>I don't see why everyone sucks Avellone's dick so hard
He wrote one of if not the best written games of all time, in KotOR II.

>>380694019
I don't know but I want to romance Iselmyr
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>>380696869
>He wrote one of if not the best written games of all time, in KotOR II
>Not Planescape
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>>380696565

That pissed me off to no end.

>save him not once, but twice
>game kills him anyway

Fuck this shit game, it's half assed characters, awful combat and garbage Unity seal of quality.
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Ondra was right!
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>>380696962
This one would be better as VN
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>>380694659


Oh so we can't take our uniques with us

I guess that's good since I can't find my save
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>>380686910
>Lola Run invented beards
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>Eothas appears again and needs to be stopped
>the guy who fucking killed him the last time won't be making a reappearance

I mean I get that Avellone won't be around to write him, but that sucks man
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>>380698484
I want a Durance cameo. Or at the very least some nice references to him in item descriptions and shit.
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>>380697130
I disagree with her, but I believe the developers also thought she was right, considering how fucking hard it was to convince the Eyeless to stay with her.
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>>380697130
remind me what she was right about, it's been a long time since I played

I believe I disagreed with her because my Watcher was completely against using memory erasing to absolve feelings of guilt
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>>380698835
I wonder if there will be any big changes if you revived Abydon or not.
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>>380699104
What about if you pissed them all off and caused the 6 plagues of Dyrwood? Or if you sided with Woedica?
There's probably not gonna be enough reactivity for that kinda shit.
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>>380699247
I think the Woedica thing takes a while to actually have an effect

if you pissed off the gods, you'll probably get some dialogue about things going to shit in the Dyrwood in this game
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>>380699426
Hope so, even though I won't actually see that, since I was a nice boy and didn't break my promises.
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>>380696962
Just a personal opinion, anon.
I was going to list all his work I could think of, but I got to Kaelyn and couldn't be bothered.

>>380697130
Well, she wasn't wrong. Also one of the few gods actually worth worshipping, up there with Eothas, Wael and Berath
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There had better be more sharkman & orlan portraits in this game, there was like 3 of each in Pillars 1 while the races like Humans, Elves and Dwarves that you can import other crpg portraits for had a ton
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>>380685523
Briefly hijacking the thread to ask what the most enjoyable PC class is in PoE. I'll be playing it for the first time soon.
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>>380699674
Barbarian or Monk, depending on if you want to fuck multiple people up or be more of a single target damage dealer, respectively.
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>>380699674
Cipher gets some fun powers and is the special snowflake class that is relevant to the game's story

Chanter is a cool, tanky take on Bard

Wizards get a massive spell selection

Monk for crazy fisticuffs DPS
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>>380699672
There's a lot of great custom portraits for PoE on tumblr
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>>380699674
Cipher is pretty good.
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I'm thinking of making a Priest of Eothas for POE2 given his huge role in the main story

anyone else doing the same? Probably going to multiclass with Ranger or Chanter
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>>380699674
The custom monk in my party literally just beat the shit out of everyone. He has something like 25 percent of the damage. Only a fighter with an pole-axe could probably compete.

Also enjoyable would be cipher hands down, there is a reason they don't put psionics in dnd games, since it's just as broken as it is on table top.
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>>380691984
it's a shame that such a small thing completely puts you off the game, you're really missing out brother
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>>380700062
I think I am going to stick with my Cipher from the first game for continuities sake. A subsequent playthrough I might take your idea though.
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looks bad desu
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I destroyed this dude's soul because I figured he'd make an appearance in the sequel if you were dumb enough to banish him or something, when he's a milennia-old scheming asshole
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>>380700294
baka desu senpai
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>>380694659
>>380697248
There was also something about being able to carry over some of the permanent buffs you could obtain, like for feeding someone to the pool. You won't start with them, but can re-obtain them at some point, though I don't know if that means it'll be automatic upon reaching a certain level or if you'll have to do something in the world.

Obviously the specific mechanics of the buff might change a bit since the combat system isn't identical.
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>>380700540
That's pretty cool fanart but it looks absolutely nothing like him.

Anyways, you're right. Sawyer confirmed that your decision regarding Thaos will have an impact on the second game. I disintegrated his soul too.
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>>380697130
>can't be a priest of Rymrygand or Ondra
What a shame
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>>380695504
Dragon Age Origins was nice but still baby step compared to PoE, Wasteland, Original Sin, underrail, etc.
also, quite ugly.
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>>380700693
was Rymrygand the most autistic god?
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>>380700616
That's cool. If they aren't pussies, then they should also add in curses. For example, gods giving you shit boons if you betrayed them.
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So PoE2 and Original Sin 2 the same year?
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>>380700905
>tfw you betrayed all the gods and your character is so underpowered you can't beat the first encounter
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>>380701056
Pillars of Eternity 2 is coming out next year. I thought D:OS 2 was coming out this year?
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May Wael watch your step!

I'm glad this annoying furry bastard isn't coming back
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Will they fill this game up with genderfluids and SJW crap?
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>>380685523
I haven't played the first because I heard so much shit about it. What does this improve that has the thread being positive?
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>>380701280
You heard wrong. The first PoE, despite having some pretty big flaws, is pretty great overall.
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>>380701279
your mom has been filled with "gender"fluids lmao.
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>>380701280
from what I've seen, they've made an effort to improve the flow of combat and reduce trash mob encounters

the setting is also more interesting right off the bat (traveling on a ship around pirate & sea monster-infested islands) and the story hook is much better than the first game

skills are non-shit now

just a lot of improvements across the board really
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>>380699931
There are also these: http://www.jasonseow.com/poeportraits
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>>380699818
>>380699870
>>380699942
>>380700128
Well how about that, Monk and Cipher looked the most interesting to me. I think I'll go with Monk because you rarely see them in CRPGs and they aren't always done well. Thanks for the responses guys.
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>>380691984

Yeah and they wont be in PoE 2 at all. So...
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>>380702179
Monks are ridiculously good in PoE. They get absurd at max level.
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post your multiclass combo for PoE 2
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>>380702179
Don't do it, I still hear Torment's Reach spam whenever I close my eyes
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>>380702749
monk+soldier
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>>380702817
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>>380702749
Ranger/Chanter

Whole party will be multi-classed to rangers
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>>380702749
I'm gonna go with a pure Monk with no multiclassing, but I imagine some great combinations would be Monk + Cipher and Priest + Ranger

And Fighter + Paladin if you want to make the most boring tank imaginable.
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>>380699674
I played a chanter on my first run, and while I enjoyed it, I think I had more fun with a wizard.
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>>380701094
>TFW someone beats a cursed solo ironman POTD run
>TFW there's an achievement for it
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>>380685523
It's finally happening!
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>>380702749
Paladin+Barbarian
Explode in holy flames while doing the meteor charge
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So, how the fuck the first Pillars of Eternity had better cape animation than Injustice 2?
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>>380703809
The models got a huge upgrade, I like it
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Is Pillars of Eternity 2 a stand alone game for story or is it a direct continuation of the first game?
Curious if I should play the first or wait for this
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>>380704157
Direct sequel. Choices will carry over.
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>>380704157
Direct continuation. Has a save file importer and everything. The first game is great.
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>>380693568
>you will never explore a vast dungeon while he tells you stories of Rauatai
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>>380705006
>'I shall be as quiet as a calm sea! Which is...not very quiet.'
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>>380701232
I kinda started to like him when I got over the initial cringe
Also because he's a druid. The damage he does is unreal.
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I like how the universe was fantasy and different at the same time than the usual classic shit (elf, orcs, etc.)
A little like what Amplitude did with Endless Legend.
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>>380705006
He's not really able to explore dungeons from inside the Skaenite blood pool.
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>>380693568
>>380705006
>>380705087
Sharknig sucks, but his sister looks qt
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>>380702179
Monks have so many cool abilities it feels like you're playing an ARPG with just how much shit you're popping out, not to mention they almost directly counter the hardest enemies in the game, mages.

>mfw Swift Strikes into Flagellant's Path into Force of Anguish into Stunning Blows into Torment's Reach spam
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>>380702749
I played as a self buffing reach weapon wizard, so maybe wizard+fighter or any other melee combo.
I hope the self buffs and summoned weapons come back. Speed buff+Spirit Lance+Martial Might is a beautiful combo.
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>>380705187
Whenever some IP that's at least vaguely original comes along it really highlights how disgustingly stuck on the same old tropes like Tolkien and whatnot. I used to really like TES but now I'm like WOW VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES AND CAT PEOPLE, GG BETHSOFT
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>>380694301
Divinity is pure filler combat
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>>380702749
Pure Monk or Monk+Barbarian, frenzy and AoE with the Monk's abilities sounds too goddamn fun, I just wish Dragon Leap was a lower level ability so I could use it too.
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Man I really want to see what the godlikes are going to look like now before I replay the original. I don't want to be stuck with the one that looks like ass.
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>>380705478
Pretty sure it's still in, they also allow you to "store" touch spells, so you can cast them, keep them on your hand, then use them once you reach an enemy.
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>>380705801
Good. Touch spells in 1 were fucking shit.
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>>380705801
Yeah, I saw one video about that. It looked very good and the visuals and sound when hitting with the spell were neat.
It really gives melee wizards some new options, in PoE1 the touch spells weren't really worth diving in the melee.
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>>380702749
Cipher and probably that spirit summoning ranger for mostly RP reasons.
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>>380704786
Holy shit I didn't know about the save file importer.
That's fucking fantastic news.
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>>380705187
I like it too. The reincarnation stuff is neat.
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>>380687234
For the love of fucking out loud can just fucking not already? Gungeon is fun, stardew is fun if you're into that sort of thing, your fucking sacred pokemon even now is porderline pixel art with the shitty 3ds resolution,
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>>380706851
?
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>>380706851
W-w-what?
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>>380690045
I don't mind the smaller party size, slightly reduces time spent pause and slightly increases time spent live, there's a goldie locks zone in there.
Vanacian works in d&d, but it's not good in video games, especially when you can camp almost anywhere anytime, it just get's a little annoying. But simple cool downs aren't the answer either for this sort of thing. I don't have a good answer for this personally.
>No Avellone
I too count this as an improvement.
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>>380707324
Looking through the footage, even a simple fireball takes a long time to set up, so that's my guess of how they're balancing it.
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>>380706969
>>380707046

You heard me, don't pretend you like you don't know what i'm talking about.
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>>380691195
I'd like it if this is kept in 2, but not with fanfic bits, but more "canon" like written by the actual writers, some of this stuff didn't even seem to be considered any further than just proof reading it, like if everyone who bought a Destiny CE could just write a fuckin' grimoire card, it was nice thought in principal.
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>>380702749
Cipher/Rogue (ideally) or Cipher/Fighter.
I don't even care about casting as a Cipher (except to burn off Focus), all I want is to stab people in the soul as hard as possible. So extra damage and disables (from Rogue) or accuracy and deflection from Fighter would be nice.

>>380706969
>>380707046
I think he meant to reply to >>380687252
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>>380707572
Eeeh, I disagree. I hope the NPCs are just regular ass NPCs. I don't want to read people's souls.
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>>380702643
watching torments reach gib 4 dudes at once is disturbing.
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>>380708272
>Be Monk
>MFW I see the "Bloody Slaughter" perk
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>>380702749
cipher/fighter, dr 3 armor, and a big fucking sword.

I like playing the pure adventure types.
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>Hum, hello? HELLO?
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>>380706851
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>>380700693
>Can't be Rymrygand

Is this confirmed? If he would available, I would dual class my pale elf chanter with priest for certain.
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>>380685523
Hope this is better than the first, that was boring as fuck.
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>>380708982
I thought Sawyer said there would be no new orders or gods, but I might be misremembering
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>>380685523
I was excited for the original, and guess what?

It was fucking MEDIOCRE.

Fool my once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not acting like a retard.
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>>380709350
PoE 1 was great, you pleb.
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>>380689943
Look, I just finished reading that and it made my fucking balls shrivel up in disgust, but the fact of the matter is that those stories were just backer rewards. Not exactly a big deal, and more importantly, totally non-canon.

You're even told to pretty much disregard them overtly.

This isn't something worth bitching about, bitch about how the combat fucking sucked, but not this. Including backer content was actually pretty chill, not the fault of the develops that masturbatory dumbfuckery made its way in with the rest.
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>>380709762
Even if they were canon, I don't think they're particularly relevant.
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I hope Paladins have better skills for their orders. Aside from Pallegina's the skills are more fluff than practical.
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>>380685523
looks fucking great, like they polished all that made POE1 clunky to play

kinda like tyrany, it was a shit game overall but the animations and combat pace felt great
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>>380709350
Imagine if someone said this about BG2 after playing BG1.
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>rtwp
in the trash it goes
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>>380708386

>3 armor

Are you using a sniper rifle?
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>>380699674
barbarian or monk, barbarians clear waves of mooks in a couple hits and and offtank nicely thanks to their crazy self heal (it won't fly in POD but in hard they won't go down with their regen up) and monks at both tanking and dps
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So do they plan to make monks a dps class this time around or what?

I'm fine with them being the best tanks but they were advertised as a damage dealer

Same deal with fighters by the way, all their low to mid level passives suck ass
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>>380711225
Everything else is turn-based, let us keep this one.
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>>380711530
Monk are among the best DPS class in the game. The only people that can out-pace them at it are Rogues with enough conditions.
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Hmm multiclassing

Now i really wanna play a cipher/druid
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>>380711530
Monks, at least in the first game, are ridiculously good both as DPS and as Tanks at the same time.
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>>380711530

I don't think Fighters should go the damage dealer route. There are plenty of classes for that. They should find a way to make Fighters more about single target control. It's too unfortunate that the disengagement mechanic is irrelevant. They either need to make disengagement more punishing or find other ways to make Fighters a viable disabler.
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>>380711994
From what I've read, that's exactly what they intend to do. Disengagement is only a mechanic on certain classes, abilities, and enemies, all while being way more punishing in the process.
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>>380711803
>>380711708

that's the thing, they were meant to be dps but currently they are the best dps AND arguably the best tanks at the same time

>>380711994
here is hoping you can actually play the game without a dedicated tank, as in hatchet + shield dealing literally no damage
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Is it gonna bore the shit out of me and make me lose interest like the first one did after you get to the keep?
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>>380711994
fuck you i play damage 2 handed fighter eat my taint
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>>380712383
Well your "keep" is your ship and you get it immediately so I guess even if you have ADD you'll manage a hour or two.
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>>380711994
>not being intellectual 1h+shield damage dealer
Weak!
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>>380699672
Here's one you don't have.
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Whats the system requirements for the PoE? Does it really needs 8 gigs of ram? I have a laptop to work off.
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>>380715595
How the fuck do you not have 8 gigs of ram?
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>>380715683
Laptop, my pc Fucked out and I'm poor as fuck so I can't repair or buy replacement parts at the moment. It had 4 gigs of ram I usually use it for ps1, psp emulation and retro gaming.
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>>380696869
I want to fuck Aloths boypussy!
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>>380685523
>no Avellone
Into the gutter it goes. His companions were the only interesting ones. This is gonna have Tranny tier writing.
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>>380717553
Do you ever type up your funny nicknames for things and have a moment of shame where you realize how embarrassingly bad they all are?
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>>380717949

Not as bad as Tyranny
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>not romancing the fuckable elf femboy

step your game up
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>>380718180
Can't romance her, she won't be a proper companion because that stretch goal wasn't reached.
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>>380694473
That's a great summary of Pillars of Eternity but what does it have to do with D:OS?
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Is it different from PoE 1? I've tried to play it twice but became bored and dropped it. Also, the combat was dogshit.
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>>380718263
Honestly I'm almost glad we didn't make the goal. She seemed interesting but her being a companion felt like it was just going to be pure fanservice.
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>>380718345
Pillars has objectively good art.

>>380718509
I'm really pissed off we didn't reach the "more sea monsters" goal. Fishing would be comfy too.
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>>380699674
It doesn't matter much since it's a party game so you'll have the chance to play around with every class regardless. I recommend making a character with at least one of perception, intelligence, or resolve maxed for dialogue options.
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>>380718345
Who the fuck would unironically defend the story in D:OS.
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>>380694473
>>380705584
>B-but muh infinity engine!
>Muh pause combat
>muh meaningfull choicesâ„¢
>Muh wall of text dialogue

Nostalgiafags are fucking shitters.
Icewind dale was nothing but Filler Combat aswell and you gobbled it up just the same.

Original Sin was a bunch of good combat and no story.
And now Original Sin 2 is taking that combat and adding story to it. its not like you cannot look up the early access stuff on youtube.

The reason people sperg about Original Sin is because it isnt like "they used to make em".
The combat is closer to FFT than it is to Baldurs gate and it doesnt masturbate about "meaningfull dialogue" which from what ive seen in Tides of Numenera boils down to a bunch of purple prose and "tell dont show" these days.
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>>380685523

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eebUV7hJswk
Fucks sake anon, post the YT link
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>>380685523

Eh I dunno, I dropped the first one because the combat was atrocious and the story alone could not hold my interest. This game's combat looks like the exact same shit.
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>>380688862
That must have something to do with the stealth action they show in the video, like what spells can you cast while remaining undetected.

It would be nice, if you could kill monsters in a dungeon one by one with low noise spells, but the loud ones, would aggro wider area.
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I tried PoE1 for 4 hours, got bored, and quit

convince me to pick it up again in preparation for PoE2 /v/
Do I pick up the DLC as well?
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>>380718776

Same people who would unironically defend the story in PoE
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>>380719581
Just drop it, it's overrated and just overall not very good.
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Looks pretty boring desu
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>>380719581

If you didn't enjoy the first one after a few hours, then don't worry about trying the second one, it's pretty much going to be the same thing.
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>>380719581

I started and dropped PoE three times due to bordem before I managed to force myself to finish it. The expansions were great but the base game experience doesn't merit a playthrough if you struggled with bordem like I did. I'd say just skip PoE since Deadfire looks like a vast improvement in every way
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say,when is this coming out?
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i remember where you had to get support from one of those three groups in the city for the trial bugging the fuck out on me where i finished all their associated quests but since it was vanilla and i had done it in such an ass backwards way they all refused to lend me support

the main woman called me incompetent and the ending was the thirteen or whatever they were called taking over
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>>380719581
It's not for you, play something else. Another genre of game. Maybe you're more into those "action" RPGs the kids seem to like so much.
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>>380685523
>11 minutes of pure fap material
I came here expecting porn and all I got was video games. What is this? Bizarro /v/?
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>>380712383
Pleb
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>>380717553
>His companions were the only interesting ones
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>>380718660
Maybe we'll get that stuff as DLC
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>>380724008
>dude drugs lmao
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>>380721796
Supposedly Q1 2018
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>Tfw I loved PoE (played it the first time after the expansion and improvements to the stronghold though) but hated D:OS

I guess the combat of D:OS was good but the plot and world were just not interesting at all. For me at least.
Which is a shame since I really WANT to like it.
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>>380724058
>dude whore lmao
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>>380724254
Same exact spot as you
I loved the combat in Original Sin far more than Pillars of Eternity, but in every other aspect, it was just so much worse, it wasn't even funny.
Poor wacky lolsorandum story and writing that didn't take itself seriously enough, boring environments, it just felt like a combat system tacked onto a soul-less test area. Got bored and couldn't even finish the first area of the game.
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>>380724254
>>380724403
I thought both were mediocre, I completly lost interest in OS after i reached the second big area and pillars was boring and drawn out
>>
OS had mediocre combat. people are just way too impressed by that elemental interaction gimmick.
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>>380724403
Original Sin is basically a game made for people who are insufferable murderhobos in every game that allows it.
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>>380723780
Fuck off.
You can dislike PoE and still be a fan of other games in the genre.
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>>380724057
That's what I'm hoping for, yeah.

>>380724254
>>380724403
They're stealing some stuff from OS combat like elemental interactions between spells and EXPLODING BARRELS, so maybe PoE 2 will be the best of both worlds? Based Balance Man promised that writing will still tackle mature themes (nothing says "mature" like critting a bunch of zombie kids with a spell and watching them blow up into bloody chunks) while being less verbose.
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>>380724403
I enjoy Divinity's humour, but I grew up playing those games so maybe I'm just mentally compromised.
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>PoE, D:OS, W2, T:TN all considered controversial (Some love, Some hate, Some think are mediocre)
Why so far in this "crpg renaissance" has a all round fantastic game been made? Is it just suffering from first try shakiness? Will the sequels of these respective games (PoE2, D:OS2 and W3 specifically) finally deliver top notch crpgs? Is there just too much nostalgia in the genre for a great game to be made? or are there just too many, for want of a better word, "casuals" entering the genre and muddying everything up with their opinions? so many questions.
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>>380725353
I really like the other Divinity games. OS was just really awful about it.
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>>380725395
An all around fantastic game like what? Fallout with its shitty and exploitable combat, suffering from lack of content (1) or overabundance of shitty jokes (2)? Baldur's Gate 2, set in one of the blandest setting of all time, focusing on combat at expense of other kinds of roleplaying? Arcanum, which was a beautiful broken mess? Bloodlines, which was a beautiful broken... you get it. Torment, which is a glorified visual novel?

Out of those BG2 is probably the one I see the most unanimous praise for, but it has a lot of vocal detractors as well. There isn't some single perfect RPG. Different people like different things.
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>>380685523
man the game looks super cool
why you have one less party member tho?

I had a lot of fun with Poe1 but here's the thing

half way into the first act I just started to insta TL;DR every single NPC I found, I dont even know why the fuck the big town gets burned to the ground, and why there was a trail, I just had fun killing shit and looting corpses, I just had the general Idea that you're a voyeuristic soul freak that can speak with ghosts and then you appropriate yourself with a wasted shit hole called Caed Nua, then some faggot wants to start a war and then you speak with gods and then I dont know man, I just fell in a hole and died, and then credits rolled what the fuck
maybe I'm the biggest pleb in the thread, but hey the game is has fantastic art direction and combat system
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WHAT IF dungeon crawler instead of Book where you are the heroes.
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>>380727294
>grimrock 2
Aww fuck, Loved the game but I never managed to finish it. I lost my saves just before entering the castle, never made an effort to get there again.
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>>380726523
You're >>380724901
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>>380685523
>peepee of eturdshitty
boy i cant wait for another balanced game of balanced real time with pause balanced combat with balanced stats balanced by the great josh "the balancer" sawyer
>obshitian in the current year
>isometric RPGs in the current year
>crowdfunding in the current year
ISHYGDDT
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>>380697130
>DURR THINGS MUST B FORGOTTN
no
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>>380728196
>this entire post
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>>380728196
see >>380717949
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>>380728196
>>peepee of eturdshitty
wtf I'm literally rofling on the floor right now man
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Can you still make custom companions in the new game?

I really liked that part, making up characters of my own.
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>>380726523
I'm using all my autism points for this:

Actually what happened is that you are a Watcher, a special snowflake who has awakaned this power because an old man made you remember your past life, but because of this, you start losing your sanity. And so you get into a quest to know more about your past life and cure your condition.

There is another watcher in the fortress of Caed Nua, so you decide to talk to him, but he is completely insane because he completely remembers his past life and sins were he burned a village and raped the women because he was an elf from ISIS, the old man was so unlucky that part of the ISIS elf's soul went to the rapechild who swore revenge against the ISIS elves, he is succesful and commits genocide in a muslim elf village.. You kill him and become the lord of Caed Nua.

Continuing your adventure, you discover that the man that awoke your memories is the leader of a cult that worships a nazi goddess of justice and revenge, you decide to stop him using the help of a duke or whatever but the duke gets killed by the antagonist, after that, riots start to roar on the streets, that's why the city was burning.

You keep chasing the faggot until you have to jump down to a pit where you have to pray for the gods to save your ass. If the gods don't help you, you die, just like you did.
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>>380728659
uhm... thanks for clarifying that m8
it actually makes more sense now
I think
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>>380728659
you forgot to mention the part where the gods aren't real
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>>380729238
You only get to know that if you survive sun and shadow
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