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FFXI: StormBlood

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>people can't understand that tri-disaster is still called like that because they are now Miasma and Bio"3" instaed of just being 3 spells
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They're making a new XI expansion?
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>>378771646
>DRK either gets trick attack on soul survivor or koji is a hack and soul survivor just provides slashing debuff
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DUDE
WINE
CHEESE
LMAO
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>Kugane theme is rearranged for some sanctuarues, the overworld battle theme and the dungeon boss theme
Yawn
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So soul survivor damage debuff now works in pve? Is this true?
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>>378772036
>hating leit motifs
yawn
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Is there a way to turn a FC estate into a personal one?

I started one with my friends years ago, but they have no plans to return and I'd like to own the house myself (they don't care that I do this) and join a new FC.

Just curious if it's possible
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is mch's overheat decreasing or increasing damage
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>>378772109
https://www.famitsu.com/images/000/134/234/592d8c78deac2.html
Wars on suicide watch
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>>378772165
The FC must vacate it, and you have to buy it, like any other house. The transfer estate system will be available sometime in 4.0
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>arm of the son queue needs two dps for 30m
>get two dps just as a tank and healer leave

End me
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>>378772213
Increasing. You can see it in MCH gameplay videos.
>Guy's autoattacks are doing 1000
>Overheats
>Autoattacks now doing 1200
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>>378772321
Why the fuck are you queueing for alexander shit?
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>>378772365
So 4.0 mch is going to be about getting hot as fast as possible?
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>>378772253
I don't buy it yet since it clearly makes DRK a mandatory tank pick.
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>>378772253
>https://www.famitsu.com/images/000/134/234/592d8c78deac2.html
Can you retards translate the moonspeak instead of memespeaking?
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>>378772263
Thanks for the info! I made sure they had no rooms anymore in it and such, just making sure I am doing the right steps. I may wait then, just in case
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>>378772213
It increases. The tooltips had translation errors.
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>>378772458
Because for some fucking reason you can't undersize them and I want to make the lolicat happy.
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>>378772365
I mean when you go past 100% heat does it decrease or increase your damage, I heard it was mistranslated in the media test build
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>>378772498
> muh 6 fell cleaves
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>>378772612
meant for
>>378772405
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>>378772648
It increases your damage by 20% for 10s then disables Gauss Barrel for 10 more seconds.
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i hope they keep the drg stance named "gaze of the first brood" instead of "life of the dragon"
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>>378772134
It'll be boring and repetitve. Even Heavensward's leitmotifs weren't this bad.
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>>378772720
There's faster ways of getting stickers, for example, top 4 for dungeons, then bum rushing primals
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so, does rdm passive removes both spell cast and recast time? official skill video looks like it, but all sorces seem contradictionary or retarded
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>>378772458
You'll probably want to hold off on Overheating for a while until you can get it to lineup with your cooldowns. If you Overheat too soon, you might not be able to get back to sufficient heat again by the time your CDs become available. But I suspect you'll be Overheating once every minute, since you can then Reload + Ricochet + Rapid Fire + Reassemble + Wildfire, since they are all 60s cooldowns (except reload which is 30s). You'll also alternate between Hypercharging your turret and Overloading it, since those skills are each 120s cooldowns. Although it's possible people will try to Hypercharge and Overload in the same Overheat and just try to line it up in such a way that they Overload just as Hypercharge ends.

You'll then wait 10s to get Gauss Barrel back, then use Flamethrower (another 60s cooldown) to bring your heat back into the 50-100 range and enable your boosted weaponskills.

MCH is basically still all about burst windows.
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>>378771759
XI's dev team actually said they can work on a new expansion, but that is all they said (probably depends on SE giving a "greenlight" to the project).
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>>378772943
It has a skill called Dualcast which makes the next spell instant after hard-casting the previous one. The recasts are still there.
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Could someone explain what direct hit and new tank stat need for?
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>>378773123
Trait, not skill.
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>>378773241
Direct Hit is mini-crits. Higher rate of occurance but less damage that a crit. They can also stack with crits (so a single attack can be both a direct hit and a crit).

Tenacity increases damage dealt and reduces damage taken.
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did anyone ever go over the japanese tooltips for blizzard iv and umbral heart, to find out how much flare's mp cost is actually reduced by
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So if the overheat Jap translation was the correct one, does that mean Aetherflow only gives back 10% of max MP? Does that mean Fey Union is a fuckhuge 480 potency regen? Is Bane uncucked?
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>>378772943
It still triggers the GCD and doesn't work on spells without a cast time, which precludes any oGCD cooldowns. So it only eliminates cast time.
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>>378773241
Direct Hit is a mini crit on top of normal crits.
Tenacity is damage dealt up + damage received down.
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>>378773476
>>378773241
Two stats for crits looks retarded.
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>>378772498
Every opinion about how all tanks were going to be equal/viable were from the people who got to attend the media release and use faulty translated builds.
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>>378773451
Bane is the same, the JP tooltip just words it differently.

Fey Union is a huge regen but it prevents all other Fairy action, i.e. no Embraces while it's active.
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>>378773581
>looks
Try to say that again when you see double exclamation marks next to your burst damage skill.
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>>378773629
Fuck. Dungeon running on SCH is going to be ass without an AOE

The JP tooltip has Aetherflow only restoring 10% of max MP though, correct? If thats the case I guess I do have a good reason to take Lucid Dream.
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>>378773620
Based on what we know, any combination of tanks WOULD be viable, unless DRK has the trick attack effect on Sole Survivor.
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>>378773629
So you pretty much wanna keep her tethered to the MT unless you need her CD sounds good to me.
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>>378773781
The tether drains the Fairy gauge though. Can't use it with no gauge.
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>>378773781
In all honesty, you'll most likely hardly ever need the tether. Embrace is buffed by 25potency, and Whispering Dawn is also getting a natural +30%.
Fey Union seems like it'll be used very sparingly most of the time, since its such a huge overheal.
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>One Ilm Punch still exist in SB
For what purpose?
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>>378773747
Pld has magic vuln, war slash debuff, SS debuff in pve more totaly balanced for drk now.
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>>378773984
It's now a stun that ignores stun resistance.
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>>378774036
PLD has Magic vuln debuff? On what ability?
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Man, SAM is looking so fun and hot but it feels shit to dump MCH because of the overhaul
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>>378773984
It's now a stun that ignores enemy's stun resist. We don't know if it will ignore immunity too.
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>>378774149
Of course it won't ignore immunity.
>Boss charges ult.
>MNK fucking stuns it.
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>>378773581
>>378773241
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>>378774250
MNK CONFIRMED FOR META PARTY COMP
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>>378774114
Requescat. But it could work work only for him and not for party. Or not.
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>>378774146
MCH will burst like a monster with Overheat + Wildfire combo. I wouldn't hang up your gun just yet bro.
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>>378774498
It buffs PLD's personal magic damage, that's all.
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>>378774401
So good bye det , crit/dir new hotness.
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>>378774401
Wasn't there a !! hit during the live letter?
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>>378774401
Its still retarded having 2 diffirent stats for crit because
> muh stats
They could make it one and dont fuck around.
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>>378774401
>NIN hitting for 12k
MMMMM GIVE IT TO ME
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>>378774401

>12k

boi
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>>378771646
https://youtu.be/M0YzN11RObk?t=27

Why in the FUCK is Humbaba seeming to be an ADD in the field?! That better be a fucking fate where you just hold him off, before he decides to retreat.

He was a bit of a major FF6 boss that was clearly the only one of his kind, and was very powerful.
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>>378771916
It makes more sense to be trick attack since the whole point of the skill is to be burning down one target, but putting trick attack on it would ruin the entire point of the skill since it would be used throughout the fight and fail its intended purpose.
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>>378774897
There's more than one of him in the video.

Fuck me.
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>>378774751
>sam crits for 30k
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>>378774498
Nothing in that description says that unless you're going off something obscure and hidden.
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>>378774946
It gives use to an ability that DRKs never used in raiding except maybe once/twice a fight for regen.
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>>378774751
>>378774818
>only a 550 potency

You ready for Kaiten > Midare Setsugekka
150% next potency weaponskill on 720 potency
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>>378775089
Yeah well my boi NIN hits like a wet noodle in HW, so I'm game for 12k smacks
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>>378774558
Honestly I was kind of looking forward to the whole "heat management" aspect of it, trying to keep high heat without going over. But with Overheat being a huge damage boost, it basically just keeps MCH as the "burst-window" DPS where they try to dump as many fucking buttons as possible in a short time, then basically sit on their ass the rest of the time.

Shit is going to be bananas basically.
>Oh shit about to Overheat
>Hypercharge
>Reload
>Rapid Fire
>Wildfire
>Heated Split Shot
>Ricochet
>Heated Slug Shot
>Reassemble
>Heated Clean Shot
>Quick Reload
>Heated Split Shot
>Gauss Round
>Fish for Slug/Clean procs with the 2~ GCDs you have left.
>Turret Overload right at the end.
All in the space of 10 seconds.
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>>378775089
>>378774818
>>378774751
>they think that's a lot
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>Before yesterday/today WARs constantly shitting on DRK saying they belong in the cuckshed
>Soul Survivor from famitsu press release shows soul survivor given phys vuln up
>WARS suddenly disappear from shitposting about DRK
Hmm...
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>>378775260
Can't wait to see just how ridiculous BLM crits will get. I don't even play the job.
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>>378775121
But why attach it to an ability that will be used wrong instead of just making it standalone?
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>>378775260
>fire 4 nerfed in SB
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>>378775321
Even without it DRK is lined up for MT and PLD for OT in all progression comps.
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>>378775340
>he thinks 20 potency matters when the new blm opener can literally cast 9-10 fire iv

o i'm laffin
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>>378775339
it has two uses now, and is especially good on an add like faust. I don't see the problem with it other than it being broken.
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>>378775260
>fire iv nerfed
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>>378775321
Even without SS was superior cause Blackest night god tier defence and better then anything war\pld could provide.
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>>378774401
BLM already crits for over 12k in HW.
Brace yourselves for when SB arrives and BLM go ham with Direct Hit.
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>>378774149
It's for the stun resistance that builds up after stunning a few times. At least it will be good for dungeon trash to build lb, but it has to line up perfectly. I would still prefer to keep the stun on steel peak unless new raid fights will require CC for mechanics, but even then most jobs lost out on stuns and silences.
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Haha I can't wait to see MNK Crits!

>Forbidden Chakra dropped by 70 potency
>Tornado Kick is now for shitters that can't maintain GL3 the entire fight

Haha....
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>>378775581
>yfw no caster gear comes with direct hit
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>>378775581
>BLM
>when SAM exists
LOL
Into the shed with you
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>>378775698
>>378775581
Good luck gearing this shit now. Crit, Dh and SS plus det. Living nightmare.
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>>378775684
Forbidden Chakra loses potency to make up for how much more often you'll be using it. On the flip side, during Riddle of Fire it gets +30% damage (along with all other skills), bringing it back up to 325 effective potency.
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>>378775684
but you can forbidden chakra more often now as before you could only charge during down times on bosses or when dodging aoe and you can't hit anything.
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>>378775216
its only a 50% boost, mistranslations my friend
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>>378775684
>Tornado kick still eats your GL

for what purpose
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>>378775089
>>378775260

>This isn't even a direct hit
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>>378775467
>>378775340
>everything else nerfed acrossed the board, blm only loses around 30 potency from fire iv under astral fire 3, can cast more fire iv than ever due to umbral heart and lucid dream, has foul, flare buffed

>>378775721
enjoy your keniki management, which neuters your ability to use all those high potencies outside of windows of burst

the knee jerk reactions to samurai are hilarious but when you actually look into how the class plays, it NEEDS those high potencies

also your 150% buff is only 50% :^)

>>378775876
det will be lowest priority stat, as it always has been
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>>378775216
To 150% (or by 50%). Translators are fucking dumb.
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>>378775684
How could you even drop GL during a fight when Riddle of Earth is a free "oh shit I'm a retard and GL is about to fade" button. Tornado is still going to see the same almost non-existent usage it sees now, if not less because of RoE.
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>>378776017
It was meant to serve as a "well, I'm gonna lose my stacks anyway, may as well drop them on this big attack" skill. But now with Riddle of Earth, MNK will apparently be able to maintain GL throughout a whole fight, even through boss ults, which makes Tornado Kick a totally worthless skill.
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>>378776060
>he doesnt know
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>>378776060
If I wanted to cast more things I would play red.
I want NUMBERS
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>>378776165
Tornado kick used to have a way higher potency in HW previews but it was a DPS gain to blow your GL on it whenever it came off cooldown

I mean would it even be OP if it was just on a longer cooldown but didn't eat GL?
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>>378776134
>>378776017

>implying there won't be some hidden meme involving tornado kick in the rotation where it turns out the best thing to do is to cast it the instant we get GL3 and reapply demolish because the cd is now 10 seconds
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>>378776060
SAM will get a buffed Midare every 20 seconds. When Meikyo Shisui is up, they get a free extra one within 8 seconds. Kenki prioritizes buffing Midare. They'll be using their high potencies constantly.
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>>378776017
>330 potency attack that loses your GL stacks
>Samurai gets a 720 potency attack just because lmao
What did the Final Fantasy XIV: Stormbloodâ„¢ balance team mean by this?
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>unironically thinking WAR MT + PLD OT won't be the best choice for huge mitigation and DPS
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>>378776471
Theres a ton of setup on that attack you know right? You cant just spam it.
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>>378776505
>WARs trying to leave the shed
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>>378776165
>>378776017
Doesn't Riddle of Earth only extend duration of GL to max WHEN you get hit and it activates Earth's Reply?
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>>378776505
DRK does more damage than WAR as MT with extra survivability and now trick attack.
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>>378776312
Would be kind of boring then.

My own idea was to have it extend your GL to 30s one time, but also pacify you for 5-10 seconds, undispellable. That way it would fulfil both its current function and the function of Riddle of Earth (which really feels like a copout ability when you look at what other jobs got. Like a desperate attempt to make Fists stances besides Fire have a use).
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>>378776060
>no raging strikes
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Is there still hope for WHM?
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>>378776583
Yes, it only refreshes GL at the moment you take damage.

If it was just a free refresh of GL then it would be a much more useful ability.
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>>378776601
>does more damage than WAR as MT
No it doesn't.
>extra survivability
No it doesn't.
>trick attack.
You can't actually think that's going to make it to release.
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I'm done
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>>378776471

Monk generally has lower potency because with GL3, blunt resist down and twin snakes, they always have at least +50% damage

Tornado kick should still have a free way to cast it in SB however, like riddle of earth giving instant GL3 upon a damage source taken like what we speculated from the bench mark
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>>378776690
i tiny shimmer during the liveletter at e3, if they change anything from the months old build that the previews were made on
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tell me about fishing. is there any use for lower leveled baits or should i just throw them out?
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>>378776724
>DRK doesnt have extra mitigation over WAR who loses everything to switch stances while DRK doesnt
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>>378776632
it's boring but at least it fucking gets used
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>>378776705
It's useless then.

Only thing I can think of that benefits from it is when Titan returns to stomp after his jump.
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>>378776724

LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

LALALAALALALAALALA MUH FELL CLEAVES

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>378776505
Dude, I main(ed) WAR and even I can see how fucked we are.
I'm not stupid enough to keep this empty loyalty. I'm switching to PLD.
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These will be your maids tonight.

Say something nice to them, /v/.
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Any other tanks kind of tired of hearing all the arguing and just gonna play all the tank classes anyways? Sure I play WAR a lot more than anything else, but I'm still interested to play with the new PLD buffs now that it looks like it might actually be fun to play.
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>>378776060
>no raging strikes
>no foes
>nerfed damage
L M A O
M
A
O
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>>378776505
>20% damage bonus on darkside
>higher potency on DRK's fell cleave vs. WAR's
>DRK gains gauge faster thanks to Darkest Night and Blood Weapon
>DRK can get 5-6 spins in the opener just like 6 Fell Cleaves for WAR
>can use their fell cleave in tank stance with NO DPS loss
>except they also still get their oGCD attacks and higher-potency combos
>all this on top of having trick attack
>no MP drain and higher MP restoration means you can spam dark arts like no tomorrow
>can now dark arts two of three combo hits
b-but muh 6 cleaves
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>>378776919
No fuck you get out of my job reeeeeeeeeee go play SAM like you actually want to you DPS meathead FUCKS
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>>378776690
Maybe they'll realize the lilies mechanic is retarded and change it.
Maybe.
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>>378776910
reddit
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>>378776803
I don't know what their obsession is with giving MNKs abilities that activate when they take damage. I guess it's because Counter is a classic MNK skill? Haymaker is Counter in the Japanese client.

If Riddle of Earth could somehow work out to a DPS increase besides just using it to save GL, it could potentially make MNK stance swapping actually interesting. But as long as Fists of Fire has the 5% damage buff, people are going to want to be in it 99% of the time.
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>>378776949
cute
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Someone post skills you want translated and I'll get my japanese exchange student to read them. Make sure they're a high enough resolution for her to read though.

I'm dead serious by the way.
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>>378777007
Please understand. I first started this game as a PLD and was forced to switch to WAR. I'm actually glad PLD is relevant again.
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>>378776986
You forgot that you need to sit around in Grit now to do max dps
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>People trying to shit on BLM because of a 20 potency nerf
>When we have triplecast on top of swiftcast with Ley Lines, and Lucid Dreaming WITH that amazing surecast buff that prevents knockback and stuns and a warp back to ley lines should that ever not be active at the time
>And a buff for Manaward/Manawall

You can't stop me from having fun.
Only reason I even plan on leveling SAM later is for the FFXI glamour to be returned to its rightful place
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>>378776690
Get the fuck back in there
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>>378777095
Anon please do not keep nip girl students as slaves, that's immoral
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>>378776907
It will allow you to maintain GL3 during boss ults where they are invincible or untargetable. That's its entire intention.
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>>378775260
Blm has a raw 720 pot ability?
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>>378777095
All the SCH skills please
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>>378777095
>her
Nice.
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>>378777130

>DRK gets max dps while also being super safe

Yeah, what a giant downside. Fucking idiot.
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>>378777181
>>378777095
She's hanging out and watching Stranger Things right now, make it quick.
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>>378777130
Being in Grit is never a DPS increase.
>But Bloodspiller has more potency in Grit
Yes, 20% more potency. Grit reduces damage by 20%. See how that works?
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>>378775632
Leg Sweep is a 5s stun melee role action. If anything, MNK gained a longer stun alongside whatever OIP does exactly. but that's all they gained
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>WHMs bitching
Having some brief windows of usefulness through history doesn't change the fact that you've been the bottom healing class for 15 fucking years and this will forever be the case.
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>>378777282
>>378777301
You lose Blood Price when not in Grit, so you can't Lincoln Park combo as much
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post houses and housing ideas.
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>>378777239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGE10nM_OQ8
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>>378777308
Leg Sweep is only 3s. Low Blow is the 5s one.

MNK can still stun with Shoulder Tackle though, which is kind of strange, because it's now the only stun which does damage. So MNKs are going to be the only ones building an enemy's stun resistance when its not necessary.
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>>378777389
You also get access to Blood Weapon when not in Grit, which is far superior to Blood Price unless you're tanking an AoE pull.
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>>378774409
>MNKs only purpose in a party is making sure the SAM absolutely will not die to boss ultimates by cancelling boss ultimates
lmao
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>>378777450
I want the proper tooltips though
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>>378777502
You used to be able to tank without grit and get BOTH
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>>378777130
Bloodspiller is the same power in and out of Grit.
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>>378777502
You realize right now at this very moment in XIV you can use both of them in non-Grit right? Its a nerf.
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>Red mage trainer is in Milvaneth Sacrarium
That door finally fucking opens again. Does this mean that the other cities will see similar changes and updates?
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>>378777596
You know Bloodspiller isnt the DRK's only damaging skill?
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>>378777583
Yeah, which basically meant that DRK was forced MT since they lost damage if they weren't getting hit. Now they can OT too without losing anything.
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>>378777648
THEYRE LOSING BLOOD PRICE YOU DENSE FUCK.
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ffxiv /v/ thread:
KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK
SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED
KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK
SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED
KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK
SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED
KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK
SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED SHED

ffxiv /vg/ thread:
p-please be gentle with my feminine futa benis~

I fucking hate all of you.
Where can i actually discuss this game without derailing into shitposting when i mention any job that wasn't overbuffed?
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>>378777640
Yes? What does that have to do with what I said? That's the main reason staying in Grit isn't a DPS gain in fact
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>>378777509
nothiung changed with scholar.
Bane is still nerfed
Fairy is still nerfed (super slightly)
Miasma 2 & Blizzard 2 are still gone

The only thing that slightly changed (I think) is that the 50% heal ability can only be placed on 1 person at a time.
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I'm not fucking joking, holy shit. Post the god damn famitsu skills so she can translate them.

I can't find ones that are big enough to read.
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>>378777648
You realize you can blood price will OT too, right?
There are things that damage the party
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>>378777780
You could do that before too. The only difference is now that you cant benefit from blood price at all as OT, and less conveniently as MT.
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>join Leviathan Khloe group
>obligatory DPS who doesn't accept duty then fucks off without a word
>obligatory first timer seeking a carry
>obligatory DPS ignoring adds
>obligatory nobody activating the shield
>obligatory the only healer falls into the water
>obligatory DPS continue to hit Leviathan after the second set of bubbles when theres no shield
Three wipes and I left. Fuck this shit. Leviathan EX so far has for me been the worst experience in EX farming and Khloe groups.

>>378773658
>Next time maybe have them unsync.
It was unsync. Retards pushed him too hard.

>try another Leviathan EX group
>same issues, but not as bad as in the previous one
>we finish him off
>turns out SMN who had to be told to turn off his pet
>and healer who fell into the water were new
>horse drops
>that healer gets it

ALSO

>Bismarck EX for Khloe
>one tank fucks up the Sanuwabitches
>also pretty low DPS in general
>tank gets asked if they are new
>"no I just can't remember been a while"
>we down Bismarck after another wipe
>that tank was new
I hope Stormblood gives us a RF like filter where we can block people who didn't clear the thing. It will be used by assholes and shitters too, but maybe it will "motivate" those first timers to actually try and get a group.
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>>378777719
Oh boo fucking hoo. You don't get absurd mana regen when MTing. Maybe you'll just have to deal with having 6-8 Bloodspillers every minute. How will DRK survive this horrible nerf.
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>>378777726
Reddit, Youtube maybe facebook.
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>>378777726
inside the game of course.
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>Only 1 new dungeon in every odd patch
J U S T
U
S
T
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>posting catgirls
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>>378777726
Just use an auto-filter. Memes die just as fast as an attention whore when you just ignore them.
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>>378777726
Unironically Reddit, all you'll get here is "cuckshed lol" and all you'll get in /vg/ is "is my catboi bussy cute :3"
The /v/ threads have been ruined like the /vg/ thread was ruined
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>>378777914
Im not whining. Im just trying to understand why some people are calling it a buff when its a nerf to force DRK into Grit more often than before.
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>>378777760
>Fairy is still nerfed (super slightly)
How? I know that Embrace is at 250 now, but the +30% from Maim and Mend that theyre getting puts it up to 325?
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>>378777726
reddit

>>378777780
Blood price is grit only now
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>>378777763
see >>378772253 dumb frogposter.
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>preorder
>put the code in, pick pc and get the early access key
>key doesnt work
>support tells me I have the steam version and I should get a refund
>there was no option for steam, only pc, ps4 and mac

WHY ARE THE STEAM AND PC VERSION NOT THE SAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, I HAVE NOT EVEN PLAYED IT THROUGH STEAM, I ONLY BOUGHT IT THERE
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>>378778038
Nothing about it forces them into Grit though. Swapping into Grit just to use Blood Price isn't going to be a DPS increase over just staying out of grit, holding on to your 20% extra damage, and using the MP you would have spent on Grit on another Bloodspiller.
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>>378777450
Shadowflare says unchanged but it's now a free ocd skill on a 60s cooldown. It's more a bigger change for SMN though
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>>378778043
Maim and Mend already buffs pets by 30%. Like, right now. In the game.
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>>378776724
Yes he does. DRKs mitagation far better then WARs. And he outdamege current WARas mt. New DRK already dps god, SS makes him even better.
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>>378777935
what's making up for this?
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>>378778135
Where did you pre-order that it didn't tell you explicitly about it being a Steam code?
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>>378778135
>buying steam ever

lol.
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>>378777935
Can't wait for 5.0 where we only get 1 hard-mode dungeon a content update and no new story-related ones.
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>>378776060
You realize at level 70 every single weaponskill besides Iaijutsu will generate Kenki, right?
Kenki is literally a non-issue.
Literally every single Midare Setsugekka will be AT LEAST 1080 potency.
That's 1080 potency every 8 GCDs.
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>>378778059
>Blood price is grit only now
Thats what I'm saying, DRK is only losing damage in SB. And a lot too
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>>378778135
You preordered an expansion for a game and cant even tell if you're playing on Steam or not? They sell it directly on Steam.
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>>378778135
Sure, it is a stupid system, but why the fuck you bought a DLC on Steam if you don't even have the game on it?
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>>378777935
Source?
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>>378778241
Hot and exciting content like PvP, Diadem2.0 and harder than savage content that so many raiders wanted.
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Wait so did they get rid of the attribute points fully?
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>>378778214
No it doesnt, right now it only buffs the Scholar
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>>378778139
But before they got even more MP from blood price being usable at all times.
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>>378777583
No mp drain from ds to compensate bp loss out of grit.
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>>378778454
m8, go in game right now and look at your tooltip
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>>378778420
Yoshi says they'll introduce some kind of new content in odd patches instead of a second dungeon.
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>>378778458
Yes, and now the damage they gained from that is gained from Bloodspillers instead.
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>>378777726
Reddit.

>leddit
No, seriously. They have a very dedicated community over there, along with some helpful tools. I use their aetheric density live thread to find out if A1S is sturdy or not.
I honestly don't know why you thought that a /v/ thread would give you a constructive conversation.
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Sole Survivor effects all targets now, not just PvP ones, according to her.

What other skills? We're looking at scholar now.
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>>378778420
>The current plan for what these patches will contain is odd numbered patches will have one dungeon and some other new content while even numbered patches will have two new dungeons and QOL improvements.

http://www.mmorpg.com/final-fantasy-xiv/previews/stormblood-preview-dungeons-new-jobs-and-the-underwater-world-1000011766
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>>378778513
Aka Eureka, which has been confirmed for being Diadem 3.0, aka DoA unless they shoe-horn relic progression into it, then the playerbase will begrudgingly do it.
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>>378778538
This is circular logic. Its still a nerf as opposed to just letting us continue to use both.
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>>378778417
>>378778318
No, its the reverse. I had it on steam apparently (I had forgotten and never played it through steam), and I bought the preorder on greenmangaming

fuck me I guess, I should pay more attention.
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Mother Miounne is cute. Cute!
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>>378778443
Yes, no more STR for WARfags.
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>>378778703
duede steam works only with steam. They hade huge warning there,
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>>378778651
the hype is dead gg stormblood is kill preorder cancelled character deleted
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>>378778690
How is losing damage in one area but gaining it back in another a nerf? Because it's not a direct buff tacked onto their existing unchanged kit, it's a nerf? If I reduce all their action potencies by 10% but make Darkside increase all damage by 100%, is that a nerf? You are a retard.
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>>378778651
>went from 3 hallways per patch to 2 hallways per patch to fucking 1
fuck off yoshi
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>>378777726
Reddit for sure
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>>378778742
The cutest cute of Eorzea.
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>>378777935
every dungeon is shit though
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I ignored crafting in Heavensward but want to get a pair of jobs to 60 for Stormblood at least. Do I go Mining/Goldsmith or Botanist/Weaver?
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>>378778358
Where I saw this movie before? Oh yes PLD back in 2.0 trying to throw WARs in the cuckshed, now its the DRK.
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>>378778841
>5.0
>No dungeons, they just give you tomestones so you can go back to idling much faster
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>>378778914
Crafting leveling could change alot. We have no info for this shit. W8 for stormblood.
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>>378778841
>i want another dungeon to add to the 4000 we already have instead of literally anything else
YOU fuck off, cancer.
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>>378778914
Miner always gets you the most money
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>>378778651
It had better be the best goddamn dungeon I've ever played yoshi you hack.
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>>378778703
Mog Station literally tells you what kind of account you have, you're telling me you never noticed this when trying to sub or resub?
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>>378778421
>more 8 man raid tiers

for what reason?
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>>378778490
????
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>queue into story Bismarck as WAR
>start fight immediately because bitch babies will attempt to leave otherwise
>co-tank leaps off the edge as soon as I aggro
>unclearable, since no DPS is bold enough to hold one of the sunuwas
>reset
>co-tank leaves
Embarrassing.
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>>378778651
So instead of 10 new dungeons over the course of the expansion we get 7.
Wowee.
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>>378778175
it also says main and mend was changed but its unchanged
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>>378778914
You go ALL OF THEM because of the cross-skills. For basic shit you need all other crafters besides your main be at least lvl 15.
For actual endgame you'll need all to be at least 54.
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>>378778651
Any info on savage mode current dungeon and new savage mode for old raids?
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>>378778651
>one dungeon and one "new content" content on odd numbered patches
>two dungeons on even numbered patches
That isn't so bad, considering that "new content" isn't a new way to say "Verminion 2.0".
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>>378779093
People complained Creator Savage was too easy and wanted much harder content, so Yoshi will now make harder-than-savage fights between raids to appease them.

Make sure to thank your local savage raiders for this.
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>>378778864
How old was she again? 27? That's granny age for nihon.
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>>378779139
applies to pets now
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>>378778914
Miner has always been a bigger moneymaker than botanist. And if you level one, chances are that somewhere down the line you'll end up leveling all of them.
Might change with SB though.
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lore question, when/where did louisoix teleport everyone to? Cause the world isn't destroyed like when bahamut laserbeamed everything.
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>>378779097
"Works on my machine."
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>>378779282
Beat t11. You'll find out.
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>>378779282
5 years into the future
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>>378779282
>when/where did louisoix teleport everyone to?
10 (?) years into the future.
And only the Warrior of Light, not everyone.
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>>378779037
I had not been paying attention because I had a sub
It was too late before I noticed, now I have to act like a middleaged man who lost on the tables for being a dummy.
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>>378779097
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>>378779178
Unless it's another case of Diadem.
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>>378779254
It has since 3.0
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When are they actually going to reveal what they did to BRD besides instant cast times?
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Shadowflare now gives a slow and is exclusive from other "ground effect" abilities.

What skills in particular do you guys want?
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>>378779440
Yesterday.
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>>378779298
>>378779416
what
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>>378779282
The future.
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>>378779418
Well Eureka is gonna be tied to the relic, so it might not be dead on arrival
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>>378779282
he TWOAH OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME, AND FLUNG THEM INTO THE FUTURE, WHERE EVERYTHING IS RELATIVELY OK
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>>378779203
I will, good riddance to any of the other god awful content lost in its place.
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Is there a picture with all the new DRK abilities for DRK? My friend is a DRK and wants to know about the changes but i cant find them in a non video format
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>>378779440
Wait what
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>>378778703
don't feel bad, that happened to me with Heavensward
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>>378779282
According to him, he sent them into an aetherial rift until the world was healed.
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>>378779474
Its also only up half the time it used to be. I dont understand why they didnt just give it a 30s cooldown. I dont understand why they didnt just give Bane normal AOE drop off. I dont understand why they fucked up ACN AOE
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>>378779474
I just want Tri-Bind to not be shit. Just give it the old Bliz2 potency and cast time.

>PvP
Is an entirely different ecosystem now. No reason why we should have these shit skills in PvE.
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>>378772498
What? One class of a particular role that has overpowered abilities that make it a must-pick?

THAT doesn't sound like the Final Fantasy XIV I know!
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>>378779554
The Famitsu images are the most accurate, but they're in Japanese. There is an imgur album of the English tooltips, but Koji deserves to be fired and mistranslated them
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>dumbass tanks are going to pull mobs out of your shadow flare and you won't be able to recast it
>>
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>>378777197
The problem there is will you have refreshed your GL3 right before the boss disappeared. Will you get hit before your GL3 wears off. Will the boss return before your GL3 wears off.
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>>378779702
F U C K
U
C
K
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>>378779254
idk this seems like it applies to pets
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>>378779440
>Song juggling
>different dot proc for each song
>new straighter shot proc option
>empyreal gives a free proc
>battle voice gives a different support effect for each song
There you go.
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>>378779665
Admittedly the balance has never been ideal but it's odd to put so much effort into rectifying it only to make one fatal error in one ability that ruins the whole thing.
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>>378772498
Cuckshes is waiting, boy.
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>>378779826
>battle voice gives a different support effect for each song
You're thinking Troubadour
Battle Voice gives 15% direct hit buff
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>>378778651
The new content is going to be rehashed old raids isn't it?
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>>378779779
Yoshi says that SB encounters are designed with this in mind so MNK should never lose GL as long as they use Riddle of Earth properly.
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>>378779404
>And only the Warrior of Light, not everyone.
but the scions and the various beast tribes all seem to be here.
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>>378779834
What the fuck are you talking about? It's in the fucking game, I don't see how you can seriously argue "they wouldn't do that" when they already have
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>>378779702
what is "playing NIN since the job launched"
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>>378779920
Is there video of Souleater applying the vuln up debuff in PvE?

I'm not trying to argue here, I'm genuinely asking.
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>>378779915
the scions and the beast tribes weren't at Carteneau
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>>378779915
Because bahamut didn't succeed in destroying the world. He dies shortly after before his gigaflare is able to be cast.
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>>378779702
Think how it feels when dumbass tanks pull mobs out of a hypercharged bishop's aoe range.

You can't move the turret without cancelling the hypercharge.
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>>378779881
I knew I was missing something.
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>>378777906
People honestly choose when or when not to give a fuck. Shit happens. You can either be frustrated and complain all the time or just chalk it up to its whatever and let it go to go back to the gear treadmill.
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>>378779908
So what's the point of tornado kick?
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>>378775234

I don't really know why they made Wildfire more annoying to stuff shit in now that you have to time 10s of Overheat with 10s of Wildfire. On top of all the other shit they have to do. Ranged are probably the busiest roles of DPS in 4.0.
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>>378780048
It's not Souleater, it's Sole Survivor

And you can go look at the tooltip right now, it mentions nothing about PvP.
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>>378780067
but the leaders of the eorzean alliance are
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Tornado kick rework/buffs when
>tornado kick does its full damage to the monk
>it only removes one stack under riddle of fire
>it creates a tornado when done in fists of wind
please, give me anything
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>>378780087
I had only recently started to pug dungeons, and I can't say how infuriating this is to me.
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>>378780147
You mean the Sole Survivor tooltip in-game, right now? Yeah it does.
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http://imgur.com/gallery/J5PrX

So which is which?
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>>378777780
Can someone post the source of this
I've been looking for it for a long time ever since I lost it
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>>378780119
I honestly don't know. Maybe the rare occasion where you can't save your stacks even with RoE.
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>>378780340
the Grand Companies were retreating before Dalamud came down and Bahamut broke out
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>>378780439
CRP
BSM
ARM
GSM
ALC
LTW
WVR
CUL
MIN
BTN
FSH

In that order. Not that hard to figure out.
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>>378780430
get with the times you peasant
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So which jobs are the safest to level up for Stormblood?
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>>378780601
literally none of them.
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>>378780598
What I'm trying to say is that I think the JP tooltip -might- be wrong because it's a pretty large oversight in balance that clearly makes DRK the best pick out of all the tanks, when they would otherwise be fairly equal.
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>>378780598
Delete this raaaaaaaaaaaghhh
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>>378780601
The ones you don't hate.
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>>378780601
SAM, BRD, DRG, AST, SCH, PLD, DRK
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>>378780439
I fucking hate whoever has been designing gear since 3.0
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>>378780705
So what, just wait it out until release and catch up then?
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>>378780601
safest how? Like "guaranteed a static spot" safest? AST, SCH, and NIN
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>>378780601
If by safe, you mean 'must be meta' then: AST, SAM, RDM, PLD, NIN, SCH. The others are up in the air.
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>>378780724
the JP tooltip is from a more recent build than the english one. You could be right, but as it stands right now it seemingly works outside of pvp
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>>378780705
>The shed has become a clubhouse
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>>378780757
>DRK
Back in the shed, pal.
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>4.0 is better than 2.0 bane but extremely worse compared to 3.0 bane
Was the nerf really justified?
>>
When does the Garo pvp event end?
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>>378780601
PLD. The extra mitigation will help you survive all the novice healers.
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>>378780439
Why can't they get Weaver a good set? Last time it had a good AF was ARR
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>>378779834

Class balance is a meme anyways. There is no game where everything is perfectly balanced. Pursuing it without changing the content of the game itself only leads to shifts in class balance where X is prioritized over Y instead, essentially the WoW balance method. FFXIV already hits it extremely close balance wise, with every role being used in world prog top 10.
>>
If I just want to turn my brain off and farm Frontline like an idiot right now is MCH still okay?
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>>378780890
yes
Summoner was the defacto AoE king. Shit, they still might be competitive in AoE damage even through this nerf.
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>>378780884
Sorry WAR, you have to go back in. I know the last time you were in there was 2.0 but you have to deal with it.
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>>378780884
My highest tank is WAR at 37, though, and I have no intention of leveling them further.
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>>378780890
YoshiP doesn't want us doing very large dungeon pulls anymore.
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>>378780439
Sometimes I wonder, did they finally put in a Bravely Default (Second in this case) Armor in the game as that Cul Set?
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>>378781048
RESPECT THE CONTENT!
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>>378780890
I guess SMN won't be able to AoE pad themselves as hard in fights anymore
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>>378780890
SMNs wanted a big summon, and you got it. The price you paid was having good AoE but you just played summoner for the summons right?
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>>378780961
They will be. They still have painflare and deathflare. Neither has an aoe penalty.
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>>378780724
>oversight in balance
You say this, while SAM has a 720 potency weaponskill that can be buffed to 1080 potency and performed twice in 10 seconds.
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>>378778651
>mfw people will defend and eat this shit up anyway
Brand loyality is an hell of a drug
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>>378781180
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>>378780890

Kinda yes, much like how BLM got their flares neutered every patch in ARR. Even with these nerfs, SMN will most likely still be the king due to how on-demand the brunt of their AoE is, to almost zero penalty of their single target damage.
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So, if I play the free trial, then buy the game on steam, will I not be able to use the account I used for the trial?
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>My latency is doubled from the server move.
>My favorite class is in the shed.
>I only get 1 dungeon every other patch instead of 2.

I paid real money for this.
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>>378781135
Bane is still 100% against an extra target

If there's only two targets, there's no penalty.
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>>378781326
Why not just use the free trial on steam
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>>378781302
Its already starting
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>>378781439
I didn't see the free trial on steam., and I've been aying for a couple weeks in any case
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>>378781370
owned bitch
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>>378781370
>expert roulette will consist of 1 (one) dungeon
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>>378772253
What am I looking at?
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>>378781631
well hopefully >>378781557 is right about it being 3 dungeons in ex roulette
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>>378781380
roughly
>the power for the second and subsequent targets decreases power by 20% and decreases to at least 20%
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>wars desperately trying to stay relevant
Day of the shed is here
DRK/PLD/AST/SCH/SAM/NIN/DRG/BRD new meta
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>>378781226
To be fair, SMN now has a 750 potency oGCD that can be performed twice in 13 seconds.
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>>378781557
If they actually make something good out of the freed time from not having to make linear hallway with 3 bosses #437 I don't see a problem.
Not getting my hopes up though.
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>>378781751
first target = the target that already has dots on and is being baned or the first target the dots are being spread to?
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>>378780598
What does the green text say before the whole 10%? I don't read moon and it looks like it's just the same PVP only marker.
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>>378781307
Don't even fucking try to take BLM for example when they buffed Flare like fucking crazy.

Before it had the same slower potency return of Holy
>Deals fire damage to a target and enemies near it with a potency of 260 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.

But now it stays at 30% and don't get lower.
AND with 3 stacks of Astral heart BLM can now use 3 Flare in a row on top of Foul and Thunder 4 aoes too.

BLM is fucking aoe king now.
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>>378781882
that's unclear
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>>378781302
Without really knowing what they mean by "other new content" though every single one of us can make a pretty educated guess as to what that entails, 7 new dungeons instead of 10 really doesn't sound that bad.
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>>378781810
>tfw all 3 mains in meta
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>>378780119
PVP/Soloing.
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>>378780896

there's a pvp update confirmed for 4.1, so maybe it'll end by the time 4.2 drops
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Are any of the ffxiv bosses particularly hard? I just beat titan for the first time and I have yet to die in a dungeon. So far I feel the game is easy.
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>>378780890
>4.0 is better than 2.0 bane
It only equalizes at six targets, and after the damage increase is minimal.
And now it only spreads two dots instead of three
Doing experts as a SCH will be bullshit now.
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Can't wait for Azim Steppes.
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>>378782074
Do you think they will add Samurai Garo set?
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>>378780119
Making a good pose for /gpose
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>>378771646
how do we fix scholar?
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>>378780439
Oh boy more inventory to carry around.

Just give me 1 crafting set that is used and melded and this unique designs are glamour only.
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>MUH META

i doubt any of you fags even have groups where everyone is 90th percentile, fuck off lol
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>>378781862
What are our wishes for odd patches that we write in our secret diaries?
4.1 Blitzball
4.3 Enkidu Extreme
4.5 Aymeric VN
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>>378780890
Man.. bane really sucked ass in 2.x. Doing nothing after 3 targets.
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Can someone explain to me the new differences between MCH and BRD in Stormblood?

BRD brings a lot more defensive utility, but MCH might do more damage?

Which would be more wanted for raids?
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>>378782103
Brayflox and stone vigil used to be the first """""hard""""" dungeons, but they were nerfed for shitters.
NOTHING is remotely difficult until extreme and savage, please understand, parsers and criticizing others for being bad is very problematic.
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>>378782213
>Enkidu extreme
I'd be super down for BOTBB/BITBK Extreme
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Oh man, I had this crazy dream where they decided to make a core component of a healing class entirely RNG dependant while giving stronger versions of its abilities to another healing class.

Anyway, stormblood hype. Do we have any more WHM or SCH leaks? Those flowers and that fairy meter have gotta be able to do something interesting.
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>>378782108
Yeah, out of the 3 Healers with the bane change and the lose of Miasma 2 and Blizzard 2, SCH is the fucking worst aoe damage healer.

While AST has gravity and the assize like skill and WHM has Holy, Assize and Aero 3 (which alone may be better than bane + Miasma2/Bio2 with 5+ enemies).
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>>378782134
Nope.
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>>378781909
You mean the 20%?
The first green part says if there's nothing to bane, there's no effect
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>>378782278
Depends on your parties setup.
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>>378782134

considering they share the rest of their gear with monk, i doubt it. they may add a garo katana/rapier, but if they add new title achievements they probably won't be required for makai master
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>>378781928
New Flare is still slightly worse than HW Flare at 5 targets. The 15%-30% drop makes it take a while to break even.
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>>378782108
Because SCH doesn't get the new dots like SMN. The new ones are 40 potency at 30s each.
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im kinda itching to go try out the new expac

i mained a white mage healer on launch and i remember having fun with that dungeon with the cheese and the poison dragon

how hard is it to catch up without buying that boost potion thing
i do want to go through the content just to get used to my class
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>>378772036
they did the same fucking thing for ARR and HW you fucking retard, you're complaining about nothing
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>healer aoe nerfed
>dps aoe buffed
How about you do your job and ill do mine thanks
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>>378782213
Rock Paper Scissors mini-game that you can challenge anyone to.
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>>378781302
>That patch where the only dungeon available for Ex is Neverreap tier.
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>>378782528
ARR had a pretty diverse soundtrack, it was only HW where everything was based off the main theme
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>>378782513
Wait what?
Did you read that well?
The picture is the 4.0 flare.
The text is the actual Flare with the diminishing return of Holy.

How is the 4.0 worse than the 3.0 one?
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>>378782306
People still wipe to Symond and Zu in Pharos Sirius.
After it was nerfed.
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Why does yoshi keep nerfing aoe
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>>378782571
With Between the Lines being a thing, every single SB dungeon will be Neverreap tier.
Please look forward to it.
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>>378782108
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>>378782767
See
>>378781119
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>>378782767

STOP SPEEDRUNING
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>>378774401
>>378774751
>>378774818
>>378775581
>Samurai's fucking face when they do unsynced Ravana and he enters his vulnerable phase
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>>378782767
STOP SPEEDRUNNING REEEEEEE
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>>378782817
wot's dat
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>>378782767
RESPECT CONTENT
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>>378782767
So you can stop mass pulling and learn to respect content.
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>>378782767
One pack at a time, goy.
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>>378782767
RESPECT THE CONTENT
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>>378782767
easier to toss a bunch of adds in your face than design interesting mechanics
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>Come back from break
>No recent logs
Why am I even trying to play this again, I know how statics work in this game. I'll never find one for early expansion shit. If I'm lucky I'll get to use a very desperate group as a stepping stone a few months into Stormblood.
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>>378779702
>>378780087
>when the mobs push eachother out of the aoe
s-sorry
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>>378771646
So which jobs got hit the most right now? le cuckshed amirite xd. Because I actually prefer playing outclassed characters.
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>>378781302
still better than wows shit content updates
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>>378783028
The meme and factual answer is Monk.
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>>378782684
I never said that it was worse, just that the total potency is closer than you think.
HW Flare at 5 targets: 1+.9+.8+.7+.6=4
SB Flare at 5 targets: 1+.85+.7+.7+.7=3.95

6 targets: 4.5 for HW vs 4.65 for SB
4 targets: 3.4 vs 3.25

SB Flare only slightly starts outdamaging HW Flare at 6 targets.
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>all these sickos smn/sch mad they lost their aoe
Don't worry, SB will only have 1 dungeon and it will be extremely gated, no more than 5 mobs at a time.
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>>378782828
>Bio, Bio 2, Miasma was 850 potency when added up
>Bio 3 and Miasma 3 will do 850 potency when added up

So we're not actually getting stronger at all?
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>>378779474
It always gave Slow.
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>>378775632
>I would still prefer to keep the stun on steel peak unless new raid fights will require CC for mechanics
I fucking hope it's back, the last time you got fucked extremely hard by the game if you didn't spam CC was Twintania and her spawns.
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THEY HAVE BEEN USING THE SAME DUNGEON MINIBOSS SONG FOR 4 YEARS

FUCKING CHANGE IT
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>>378783028
WHM is the only one completely fucked right now. SMN is nowhere near as bad as people think it will be. Everyone else is up in the air.
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>>378782541
>White Mages can use Thin Air and holy spam for 12 seconds for 0 MP
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>>378782767
STOP MELTING 20 PACKS OF ADDS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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You nerds need to shut the fuck up, play whatever job and just enjoy the damn game
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>>378783028
Honestly, monk. The dev team slapped themselves on the wrist for making them a selfish damage dealer and gave them more raid utility instead of more dps abilities. Then they went on to add a more selfish dps job that literally made monk look like it was never really trying hard enough.
Shed indeed.
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>>378783161
I will still pull all fucking mobs and you will still dpsing, fucking healslut.
>>378783403
No cucks allowed.
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>>378783403
>Swiftcast > Aero 3 > Assize+Presence of Mind+Thin Air > HOLY SPAM HOLY SHIT
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>>378783380
>WHM is the only one completely fucked right now
Not really.
Sure the lilies are pure bullshit, but WHM pretty much got more of the same, whereas Monks got completely fucking shafted by Samurai.
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>>378783483
m8, if you're comparing monk to samurai, you better compare every single dps to samurai

in which case the current meta is sam/sam/sam/sam - putting every single dps in the cuckshed. Compared to other non-op jobs, monk is fine.
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>>378783183
DoTs are still the same, yes. Even though Ruin III's potency got reduced back to 150, single-target DPS still got buffed significantly because now we also get Demi-Bahamut and he can do around 2.1k potency damage in the span of 20 seconds.
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>>378783542
>tank thinks he can dictate terms to whm dungeon gods
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>>378783161
>skip mechanics with passage of arms and cover/HG as PLD
Confident PLD meme is over.
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>>378783624
Why wouldn't you compare the two pure dps jobs in the game with little to no utility?
Samurai is literally Monk but better.
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>>378783454
MUH
META
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>Lakshmi EX farm -- NO WHM, NO MNK. Three mistakes = kick.
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>>378783624
the point he was making is the devs admitted monk was too selfish a dps then went and added monk 2.0 with sam.
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>>378779908
Where did he say this?
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>>378783732
because samurai is better than every single dps in the entire game right now. So much better that using ninjas and goons to boost its damage is actually worse than just stacking more samurai.
Samurai is op as fuck, and any job compared to them is cuckshed material.
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>>378783624
No. Every melee dps had raid utility for HW except for monk who was considered the selfish DPS and thus not wanted.
Now Samurai comes along, right when monk gets raid utility, and has selfish dps but with higher fucking potencies.
Samurai is literally HW Monk:Better damage edition
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Low on leaves, 56 bsm fastest way to reach 60?
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>>378783624
It's just the complete irony of saying that they'd increase job synergy and stop monk from being so selfish, yet add the job with the most selfish dps and the least amount of synergy.
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>>378783804
https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130109-Yoshida-on-Stormblood-Jobs-Roles-and-PvP-Famitsu-Interview-Translaton
>Yoshida: It may be a bit difficult to understand without actually using it in game content. I'll tell you a bit because I want to hint at the rotation. This time with monk, we wanted to focus more on the Fists element, and the element type is reflected in Shoulder Tackle. It was important that you could see the impact of each type when you fight by switching between the three types. Originally with monks it was enough to get used to the fixed rotation, but when you enter a new battle with the associated uncertainty, you need to make quick decisions about things like whether to use Chakra or whether to keep going with the DPS rotation. Your DPS will grow if you excel at that, so I think monk should be rather interesting.
>Yoshida: It feels good to use. Where DPS used to fall apart at breaks between phases, it's now designed to be able to sustain if you play it well, so, as usual, it's a job that can excel based on the skill of the player. There are also synergies that you'll need to think about how to use to their fullest potential.
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What do you guys expect in the first balance patch if everything goes through as is?
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>>378783923
moogle quests
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>>378783454
B-B-BUT HOW I WILL ABLE TO JUSTIFY THE KEKSHED
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>>378778651
>ffxv is done so you get a bigger bidget and all your staff back
>make your next expansion even smaller than the one you made with a shit budget and reduced staff

none of these decisions make any sense
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Is it fine to play this on a PS4 Pro if I'm using a PC gaming monitor instead of a TV? I only have a shitty laptop.
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>>378783649
> mfw whmcuck thimks he could get dungeon spot when
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>>378783979
SAM nerfed
WHM buffed
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>>378783624
They'll share gear, so they'll have the exact same BiS stats. If there's any job you should be comparing SAM to, it should be MNK. They're both characterised as high sustained physical dps.
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>>378779282
if you beat Coil you find out that the reason Bahamut didn't finish nuking the rest of the planet was because Louisouix sacrificed himself to temporarliy destroy Bahamuts body.
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>>378784056
>SAM nerfed
>Samurai nerfed in a Japanese game directed by a Japanese obsessed with Japanese culture and history
Not likely.
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>>378783979
Whm nerf
Sam buff
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>WARs shitting on DRKs just a few days ago
>Now this

It's why you never react to leaked data for an MMO expansion like that. And why you level all classes of a role you really like playing so you can roll with the changes.
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>>378783638
Also Tri-Disaster buffs Ruin spells (around 20 more potency maybe) so a Ruin III would be 170 and a Ruin IV would be 220, add that to DWT's 10% magic damage increase (since Tri-Disaster resets when it activates) then it'll be 185 and 240.
Sure it might not look impressive but you have a pet that'll deal 110 whatever potency.
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>>378782143
make adlo and succor always give a shield equal to double the amount healed
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>>378783161
"For 4.0 we have introduced a new mechanic, "Reinforcements", that grants every enemy within a malm of each other a stacking buff for every other enemy present over three. For example, at seven enemies, they will all have three times their base HP, damage, and damage resistance."
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>>378784036
Yes.
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>>378784043
>tfw you don't have a face because people who took other healers into a dungeon will have died of old age, their skeletons crumbling to dust before the first pull ended
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>>378783974
>Make a shoulder tackle that pushes enemies out of your range
>Have 2 shoulder tackles that you will never need because 1 is always enough
So this is the genius that is Yoshida.
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>>378784187
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>mfw the ending of samurai jack
>now inspired to do a Jack cosplay when SB hits
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>>378783071
>b-but wow is doing worse
come on
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>>378784006
They are going full internal development for FFVII too, enjoy your dead game son
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>>378783979
>SAM/AST nerfed into the ground
>WHM buffed, but not fixed.
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>>378784104
>so they'll have the exact same BiS stats
Sharing gear doesn't mean sharing BiS stats.
Though it's sort of a moot point when everyone will want to stack crit and direct hit.
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>>378783979
SCH and AST buffed
WHM deleted
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>>378784282
>20% balanced introduced in 3.4
>everyone immediately realizes how fucking op it is
>9 months later ast has continued to receive nothing but buffs

if you think they're nerfing ast, you're in for a surprise
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>>378784262
Name something better.
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>>378784139
NIN was OP when it released and it was quickly nerfed.

Perfect dodge anyone?
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Everybody shut the fuck up about DRK gaining trick on sole survivor. it is for pvp only you dumb fucks.
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I never liked speedrunning anyway so its good news for me
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>>378784391
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Since they lowered requirement for Atma weapons, how many unidentified stuff do you need for it now?
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>>378780601
Dragoon, Paladin, and Astrologian are definitely guaranteed if you're ever looking to raid
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>>378784391

Just like slashing debuff on NIN, right moron?
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>>378783979
SAM and AST nerfed, but honestly I doubt they'll do this since nobody is complaining that they're OP yet.
WHM gets buffed but not reworked. Let's hope they actually get reworked though since WHM's condition right now is just embarrassing.
ACN AoE buffed slightly probably
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>>378784240
There are some rare occasions where a second shoulder tackle might be useful to quickly zip between adds or a quickly moving enemy, but I can't see it as being worth losing the 5% FoF buff. If they really wanted Fists stance to make a difference, then they should have either changed the FoF buff to something besides damage, or made it so that regular switching could somehow increase DPS (like if Riddle of Earth boosted damage somehow instead of just being GL refresh on phase change). As it stands, people are still going to be in FoF almost 100% of the time.
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>>378784391
Read the tool tip retard.

I hope you're ready for the cuckshed warbaby.
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>>378784480
still 10 of each, but they reduced the cost and added more ways to get them
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>>378772458

Elezen confirmed best mch.
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>>378784006
>this webm
how the fuck do you fail the worm dps check with 99/99 aetherpool
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>>378783979
SAM and AST get minor nerfs, WHM gets buffs but in all the wrong places
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>>378784350
Surely they'd have to stop somewhere logical, right? They can't beat the dead WHM any harder, right?
Right?
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>>378784595
Please translate the actul tooltip and post it then you fucking retard.

Just think how stupid sole survivor would be with that adjustment. It WILL NOT include the trick for pve. If you think otherwise, you're a massive moron.
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>>378784391
Your new home
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>>378784618
>read the tooltip
>its in japanease

ok I see now, this whole thing about sole survivor gaining trick attack is a troll. Carry on then
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There will be a hotfix in 4.05 that increases the healing buff in Diurnal to 20% because "we have found that some players are still having trouble balancing card manipulation with actual healing". Earthly Star will also get buffed to 450 damage "in order to make AST more desirable for dungeons and to bring them in line with the raw power of WHM".
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>>378784391
>>378784618
My jap exchange student read the scans and says the effect says all targets, and doesn't specify about PVP now.
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>>378784710

>I'm going to post a tooltip that says it's PVP exclusive as evidence
>NIN's tooltip says slashing debuff is PVP only when it's been shown to be otherwise
>T-THAT DOESN'T COUNT

Eat shit, warfag.
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>>378784006
You comlpain about DPS but you're not DPSing yourself either retard.
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>>378784479
Until people actually see this trick attack being done in game outside of pvp why would anyone believe that it's real? Are DRK just that worried that they need utility to stay relevant?
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WE
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delete cringy static members
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>>378784710
>he cant read japanese
My sides
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>>378784631

What ways are there to get them? I know you get them from Jewenna
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WUZ
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>>378784710

>>378780598
>Increased damage effect: Raise damage by 10% to target
pvp gone, m8
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>>378780119
finishing strike
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SAMURAIZ
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>>378777906
I wouldn't go into Levi EX with more than 2 other lv60 people. Even with holding back on DPS it can become a nightmare, which ends up with the rest of the party just not doing anything anyways.

It's more fun with 2-3 people max at lv60 anyways.
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>>378784828
Did you ever consider that the tooltip for shadow fang is wrong and subject to change when 4.0 actually launches?
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>>378784350
>>378784706
what are the chances they nerf their regens and shields back to mimic the WHM/SCH ones?
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>>378785115

Have you ever thought the same, but with SS? Fucking retard. Besides, people above your post have already given you a translation. Enjoy your shed.
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>>378784364
This isn't because there is nothing better that it's okay to do worse, they are just taking the same path that wow took but faster.
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>Kugane looked tiny af in the art
>It's actually a big-ass town in-game
Honestly both Ishgard and Kugane bring the 3 starting city-states to shame for how big they are. Then again the 1.0 cities got scaled down to 70% and some areas were removed/inaccessible.
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>>378783378

I agree but if you've been playing with their music most of the time I can only question how you kept your sanity in light of 2 years of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBhQOXGnC_s
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>>378784706
This snowball ain't gonna stop, it will be ridiculous until they make WHM literally not welcome for anything anymore and they gave it the 2.1 WAR change.
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>>378784804
Not? Problem that you're an EOP. Use Google translate or something.
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>>378784828
But that reinforces that DRK's tooltip could be wrong. NIN's says it's only in PVP but it isn't, DRK's says it's outside of PVP but it isn't. Or, since PVP and PVE have separate skillsets, the entire set of descriptions isn't complete and Sole Survivor's tooltip was pulled from the PVP version which obviously doesn't need to mention PVP.
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>>378784965
Gordias normal, beast tribe dailies, both lore and poetics.
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>>378785158
Would never happen. ASTs would make a stink on the OF for weeks.
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>>378785194
Where is the translation? Literally the only thing you retards are saying is the NIN tooltip is wrong as your only peice of evidence. And im calling you retarded because if the NIN tooltip can be subject to change come 4.0 launch to reflect how it actually works.
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> mfw warcucjs trying ti leave the cuckshed
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>>378785158
0 chance to the shields. Diurnal may be bumped down to 5%
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>>378784965
Gordias floors, poetics, lore, beast tribes, allied seals, and HW treasure maps
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>>378785263
This is what you get when you finally throw the PS3 in the garbage.
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If you don't have at least 50 matches in 8v8 Feast then kindly fuck off if you want to play 4v4. We do not need you shitters in ranked, dragging us down and lowering our scores.
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>>378785360
>But that reinforces that DRK's tooltip could be wrong
Literally anon's point.
That post is in reply with an anon that says the 10% increased damage taken debuff WON'T be included in PvE.
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>>378785447
so AST is the mitigation job now?
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>>378785493
No one gives a shit about PvP, lmao
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Why are we having this discussion when the famitsu picture clearly states it increases damage by 10%?
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>>378785546
AST doesn't have a fairy. It's certainly gotten closer to being AST/AST as the healer combo, but it's not quite there yet.
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>"P-post a translation!"
>Someone posts it
>"DRKs won't get trick attack, that's ridiculous!"
>"Someone already posted the JP translation proving it's legit"
>"I-it's not real until you spoonfeed me a direct link!"

Warriors are legitimately the most autistic spergs I've ever seen.
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>>378785546
Well since they can put a shield fucking stronger than adlo crit now...
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>>378785482
But Ul'dah, Limsa Lominsa and Gridania were all from 1.0 and it wasn't on consoles though
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>>378785546
Almost. If SCH didn't get the crit buff, double AST would have become the standard.
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>>378785638
Because it might also be wrong. It's hard to fathom why they would put so much effort into equalizing the tanks so that any comp is viable, only to ruin it with a single ability.
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>>378785493
>If you don't have at least 70% winrate over 50 matches in 8v8
ftfy
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>>378785638
Because there are a lot of incorrect tooltips. Being written in Japanese doesn't mean it's correct.
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>>378785158
>take away staples of whm
>put them as cross role
>give nothing in return but some shitty aoe heal that counts on how many rng stacks you put on others
>have to constantly overheal the shit out of them to get it to be worthwhile

Is it too much to ask for my favorite job to not get viciously raped?
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>>378785669
But tell me, can you do SIX FELL CLEAVES?
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All the SMN/SCH murdering just looks like they were trying to make it easier for controller users, but just fucked the class up in the process.
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>>378785697
double AST might still become the standard since there's nothing stopping you from chaining Balances back to back.
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>>378785493
>he cares about that mini-game
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>>378785546
AST are the upset the meta job. They want to shake up SCH's spot. They heavily nerfed their aoe dps, mp regeneration and moderate need to their single target damage while boosting shield AST yet no one is picking up on this.
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>>378785845
Might have worked if they didn't also ruin WHM.
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>>378785669
The translation literally says its pvp only though you fucking mongrel. people are saying that it's misleading because the dancing edge tooltip also says its pvp only, but for some reason that means DRK will gain the trick affect in pve with sole survivor just because shadow fangs toolip is incorrect.

Sole survivor is an old tooltip that was untouched.

Shadow fang is a new skill with a fucked up tooltip because its NEW.
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>>378785493
>do 4v4 for the first time a few days ago
>always against the same people trying very hard to win
I would blow everything on them and they wouldn't die but when they did I would, I don't understand the pvp of this game
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>>378784603
The fists needed more effects to be interesting to switch back and forth between them, like, for some extremely basic example, Fist of Air being the only one allowing you to reach GL4 when you do the last skill of your combo with it active, Fist of Earth giving you chakra or another buff when you use it at the end of your combo and Fist of Fire giving you a buff that allows you to use Tornado Kick without it eating all of your GL stacks but only one (or even none).

Right now it's extremely half-assed and almost useless.
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>>378785845
>They want to shake up SCH's spot
By making AST/AST?
>let's shake the meta by making AST infinitely superior to the other healers, LOL
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DARKNES ALWAYS WINS
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>>378785669
The only way it'll change is if they change the numbers but it was definitely real in the build they played.
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>>378785794
5 to 6 bloodfellers that are higher potency then fell cleave, so , yeah.
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>>378785937
english build is older than famitsu build. Current japo text (even if it's wrong) is more up-to-date than english.
If Japo text says it works in pve (it does), than you'd have to say SE made an error when writing the tooltip.
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>>378784878
>>378784983
>>378785087
>>378785249
Don't you fucking dare diss my nigga Lupe Fiasco

he was the original black weeb
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>>378785937

The. translation. of. the. new. JAPANESE. tooltip. does. not. include. the. pvp. stipulation.

You god damn braindead Warrior idiot.
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All these dumb cuckolds not realizing the new shadow fang tooltip just means the HP recovery debuff is not available in pvp and then claiming other people to not know the tooltips when they themselves do not know what the fucking tooltip says
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Never again.
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>>378785962
If you want to overlap cards and have no limit break, sure you can do double AST.
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>>378785217
>>378785217
Actually, if something is the best cause everything is shit, that's a good thing. Just because you think there's something better even though there isn't, doesn't make it real.
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>>378785583
>>378785817
I'd wish I wouldn't have to give a shit about ranked Feast, but they had to hold a mount hostage to that shit.
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>>378786250
That is a lot of work for a title.
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>>378779826
Any idea how interesting it'll play compared to MCH
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>>378786376
Just use bolter like everyone else.
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>>378786003
You know that the vast majority of Fell Cleaves are buffed by 30% from Berserk, right? Meanwhile Bloodspiller is only 380 potency base and only gets buffed by Darkside which is the same % as Storm's Eye.
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>>378785493
Play a role that can carry harder, then. Until you're high enough to stop getting monkeys, just live with it.

>>378785950
>complaining that other people are trying to win in a game with stakes
What tier and what role? From what it sounds like, your burst is probably bad and you're probably LoSing your healer / not purifying shit.
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>Aspected Helios has already a better shield than succor
>Aspected Benefic was stronger than normal adlo but worst than crit adlo
>in 4.0 Nocturnal get 15% healing potency over the 10 they have now
>And Aspected Benefic shield turn from 170% of healing to 300% making it stronger than crit adlo, at a lower MP cost and instant
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>>378786283
And like the other anon said, shaking up SCHs spot might have worked had they not fucked over WHM in the process.
The best healers are still AST/SCH purely because of their utility to increase party DPS.
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>>378786556
What is SE end goal with AST?
They have better healing than WHM and better shield than SCH now for fuck's sake...
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>>378786250
I've never played LoV, can you you command an army of waifu minions?
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>>378786517
I'm a shitty nin.
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>>378786389
10% actually difficult matches.
10% friends letting me win.
30% crushing newbies.
50% feeding myself wins by multiboxing a trial account
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>>378786556
What? You're busy DPS'ing anyway you stupid SCH.
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>>378786583
I think we're discussing at this point what it'll take to make the best pair of healers AST/AST
Which, to that effect, I don't think it'll happen as long as fairy has smart heals.
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>>378786476
Its 520 buffef by 20% idiot.
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>>378786283
Speaking from experience, stacking two classes doesn't slow down your LB by too much. Having potentially 100% uptime on Balance will probably outweigh getting LB3 20 seconds later.
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>>378786662
You summon whatever minion you want, so yes.
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>top is live servers
>bottom is the tooltip from famitsu
Uhh DRKs?
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>>378786556
I guess the Faerie healing and using skills doesn't balance it out or anything.
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>>378786708
>including Dark Arts
That costs an extra 25% of your MP on top of spending 25% for Blackest Night to get 50 Blood every 15s, you can't do that constantly. You need to make sure you have enough MP for Blackest Night and DA+CnS so using DA on anything else should be rare.
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>>378786718
SAM's base abilities are basically LB3s anyway.
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>>378786680
Do everyone a favor and stop playing NIN in feast.
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>>378786857
They both say the same thing.
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>>378786430
Support out the ass. Damage looks low compared to MCH.
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>>378786857
Cant read moonrunes, does it confirm the vulnerability in PVE too?
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>>378787013
they both say the same thing. Which is to say they say nothing about 10% bonus being pvp only
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