Hey /v/. Suggest where video game characters go on this chart.
X 0
Y 100
all he wanted was a job
>>376625682
I'll take your word for it.
>>376625446
Suffers: 40
Deserves: 0
Here's the /co/ version that started this nonsense.
>>376625682
>>376625990
He seriously is the poster child for undeservedly getting shat on.
Deserved: 30
Suffered: 70/80
>>376628215
But it was pretty quick and painless, wasn't it?
>>376628310
Yeah, but Hawaii's last mission wasnt, maybe put Richter or Jacket instead then?
>>376625682
>just wanted to work at a high, big name corporation where his brother also works at
>fails
>gets a job as a cook, gets dragged into terrorist attack on a train by a loli, gets fucked by train crash
>gets into massive debt by the corporation he wanted to work for
>gets dragged into parallel dimension nonsense because of his powers and killing those dimensions, ending millions of lives in order to pay off his debt
>gets dragged into internal nonsense with his brother supposedly going rogue
>alternate future version of himself tries to kill him by using his future daughter
>has to choose between saving the world or killing his brother
>has to choose between sacrificing himself to save loli or letting her die
Being Ludger is suffering.
Suffers: 90
Deserves: 5
>>376629771
This makes me wonder where Kirby belongs.
Suffering: 80/90
Deserve: 0/10
Five spots have been considered so far.
Suffer: 10
Deserves: 0
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 80
>>376626669
>The guy at 0 suffering, 100 deserving it
All of my rage, fuck him
>>376630601
Suffering: 70
Deserves: 20
>>376631217
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 70
List so far:
Lugder Kresnik (0, 100)
Hollow Knight (0, 40)
Serious Sam (0, 10)
Waddle Dee (5, 90)
Tatsuya (0/10, 80/90)
Sigurd (20, 70)
Beard (HLM) (30, 70/80)
- Richter and Jacket are considered for here too.
Spec Ops dude (70, 80)
Brad (80, 100)
Suffering: 75
Deserved It : 50
Suffering: 10, 20 tops
Deserved: 80
Coach! Put me in the 0,100 team!
Suffering:100
Deserving it:80
Suffering: 45
Deserved: 85
Suffering 100
Deserved 0
He literally did nothing wrong
>>376631217
>Gets exiled, cucked, and burned alive for being a good and patriotic knight.
He's a little higher than 70.
>>376626669
>/co/
>Half of the list is anime characters
>Samurai John
>>376625446
Is it "how much they deserved to suffer that much" or "how much they'd deserve to suffer whether they suffered or not"?
>>376632347
Pretty much any mainline SMT Protag pre-IV counts as this. (Although I suppose Space Marine is also debate-able).
Anyways, for The Nameless One:
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 100 (Probably)
>>376631104
Who is he?
>>376632845
The second. That much is made obvious by the man sitting at 0 suffering, 100 deserved.
Now we got (0,100) being contested by Lugder, SMT1 hero, and Max Payne. (80, 100) is also being contested by Brad and Giygas.
>>376632813
What anime characters? At the very most there are two literature characters on there who are technically not comics characters.
>>376632845
The latter. I changed the wording of the x axis value because it would have been the former, and more confusing.
>>376632868
SMT1 protag gets extra suffering because he's condemned to be reincarnated into lives of suffering for all eternity.
And yeah, TNO did something worth 100 for sure.
Suffers: 0Unless you are shit at the game.
Deserves it: 0
>>376632906
It's from Clarabella (I think)
It's a comic about a mentally damaged girl
She is so damaged because her dad, the guy which we are talking about, molests her and even rapes her. To make matters worse, her mother puts up with it and everytime she shows any form of 'bad' behaviour, like being sad, her dad makes her feel bad for making him 'sad'
In general, he is scum of the earth, but he never ever gets even a little bit of what's coming to him
Alright. I'll give some relative descriptions of positions on the chart.
Near (0,0): This character is innocent and hasn't done much of anything wrong, even by accident, and suffers little, if at all.
Near (0, 100): This character has done little wrongdoing, yet suffers to great extents.
Near (100, 0): This character is fucking evil and is inclined to getting away with it.
Near (100, 100): This character is a fucking prick who may largely be responsible for their own suffering too.
>>376626669
Clarissa's dad suffered a little bit. Remember that time she ruined Thanksgiving?
>>376625446
I'd say X=100 and Y=something between 10 and 30 depending on how fast he's killed.
>>376633348
You should have just posted the comic you dumb nigger, fuck.
>>376633706
You're doing this on purpose, don't you anon
>>376633091
>SMT1 protag gets extra suffering because he's condemned to be reincarnated into lives of suffering for all eternity.
Wasn't that SMT II's protag? After he kills YHVH in any of his runs he swears to make him suffer.
Adam Jensen: suffered 80 deserved 5
Megan Reed: suffered 5 deserved 100
JC Denton: suffered 10, deserved 0
Gunther Hermann: suffered 100, deserved 95
Maggie Chow: suffered 40, deserved 60
Bob Page: suffered 40, deserved 100
>>376626669
this needs the parents that Punisher killed.
You know the ones
>>376625446
Suffering:75
Deserves:0
>>376625446
suffering: 60
deserves: 40
Lammy
Deserves 5
Suffers 60
Okay. I'm going away for a while. The list has been updated to here: >>376634542
>>376634594
>>376634676
I'll probably start editing the chart soon.
suffering 85
deserved 0
>All these newfags just posting in text instead of editing an image.
God I hate you cancerous new fucks so god damn much
>>376634918
>Wanting to clutter the image beyond recognition
Sure thing mate
>>376634918
OP said "suggest", not "add to"
>>376632868
Was itstarting the blood war, or was he just an all around shitty person?
Whatever he did it had to be shitty enough for him to prefer immortality over whatever eternal buttfucking he would've gotten in hell
suffering 100
deserved 55
>>376626669
Suffering: 70-ish
Deserved it: 20, maybe.
Melia, from Xenoblade:
Deserves: 0
Suffers: 100
Suffers 90
Deserves: 0
>>376625446
X 20
Y 999
>>376635286
>Roxas
>deserving any
You dumb nigger
>>376634042
yes, that's aleph, smt2 protag
SMT3 confirms this.
>>376626669
what did mabel do wrong?
>>376626669
Tom doesn't deserve to suffer.
Jerry on the other hand
>DQ5 Hero
0/100
>>376634542
on that note
Suffering: 90
Deserves: 80
Wander from SotC
Suffer 70
Deserves80
Suffered 100
Deserved 80
Suffered: 90
Deserved: 20
the guy has seen some shit
>>376626669
Double King did nothing wrong, though.
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 40
suffering 100
deserves 10
>>376626669
>Jasper
>only 20 deserve
>>376634918
>everyone edits it
>now five different "up to date" versions floating around
>>376629945
Kirby dindu nuffin.
Suffering: 80
Deserved: 50
Suffering: 90
Deserved: 0
(100, 100)
Suffering:90
Deserved:30
Who is 100/100?
Not sure 9S is it, but he's definitely on that end of the spectrum.
>>376633359
Kirby should be (0,0)
70/70
>>376636327
What's his name again, /v/ ?
>>376636304
she deserves much more, like 70
>>376625446
>James Sunderland
50 deserve it
100 suffering
killed his dying wife, it's so that she could stop suffering but he also wanted to be rid of her, never forgave himself for it
>>376636341
Kirby's a dick sometimes though.
>goes on a rampage, kills a bunch of waddle dees and beats the shit out of Dedede because he falsely assumed he took his cake
>everything in Avalanche
>>376625446
suffering: 100
deserved: 10
>>376636341
kirby is more like (20,0)
he's a douchebag sometimes
Suffering: 70/80
Deserves: 40
>>376636543
since >>376635996 already has the spot i'll change to deserve 15/20
>>376636607
Forgot pic
I am a retard
>>376625446
Suffering 80
Deserved 60
also nominating 9S for 100,100
>>376635927
>Deserved: 20
why? would be 0 to me
Suffering: 30
Deserve: 60dumb twat
Suffering: 20
Deserves: 100
Sure he gets defeated in the end but he has a grand ole time before then
>>376636729
Maybe 2B, but why does 9S deserve it all?
>>376636450
She felt very guilty by her actions and she either committed them because she was ordered to (and she is a machine after all, following commands is their job unless they go rogue) or because of a promise she made. The court rests.
On another note.
Suffering:30
Deserves:0
Ganon's probably a 100/100.
He's an ancient evil who literally can't fuckin' help himself in destroying everything for no god damn reason, but he gets it HARD most of the time. Sealed in the shadow realm, turned into stone, sealed in frozen time underwater, thwarted at every turn ...
Ganon is suffering, in giving and receiving.
>Suffering: 100++++ OFF THE SCALE
>Deserved: 0
Is there any anti-hero more misunderstood than Adolf Hitler?
>>376636849
because he's a fucking weirdo sadist that mind rapes A2 even after he knows that she literally did not do anything wrong whatsoever
>>376636849
Quess who's prototype was the mastermind behind project YoRHA?
It rhymes with mimes.
100/0
>>376636951
tbf he was heavily under the effects of a logic virus at the time.unlike this fucker
>>376636894
How did Hitler suffer?
Suffering:0
Deserved: OFF THE FUCKING CHARTS
motherfucker toys with luck and lives
Suffering: 40
Deserves: 40
Where does P5 Protagonist stand?
>Convicted of a crime he didn't commit
>Robbed of his future
>Family and friends from his hometown hate him now
>Has to live in the attic of a back alley cafe
>Instantly becomes ostracized at school.
>Is late on his first day of school.
>Almost dies on his first day of school.
>Only friends are social outcasts
>Velvet room is a prison run by Cunt and Not So Cunt
>>376637026
>
Suffering:100
Deserves:90
Suffering: 0
Deserved: 0
>>376634918
Don't forget
>All these faggots just slapping a rating of 100 suffering on characters that barely suffered relatively.
There's a reason /v/ sucks at shit like this.
Suffering: 80
Deserve: 0
>>376637198
examples?
100/100
Suffering: 20
Deserved 70~80 for killing incredible amounts of innocent people
>>376637095
everything worked out in the end so he'd be like 50/0
>>376635484
She's kind of selfish an gets in the way of the show a lot
>>376637271
Hopeman was in a constant state of bliss and despair and his life was so fucking batshit crazy that he really couldn't be normal even if he tried. Sure he did everything wrongor right depending on your perspectivebut he didn't deserve it.
>>376636967
What? Since when?
>>376637183
>deserves: 90
80/80
>>376637519
forgot the pic
Suffering 100/100
Deserved 20/100
Suffers: 30
Deserves: 60
>>376637183
what the fuck
>>376636543
He was a bit of a dick before he was cast out by the other gods
>>376626669
>Patrick at 100% deserving to suffer
What retarded monkey made this
>>376626669
>bojack horseman and rick only at 60 suffering
Wow this is wrong as shit
>>376635229
I'd bump her deserving down by 10, she was pretty fucked up but thats partly due to brainwashing by Harrow.
>>376637648
I'm sure they're taking into account current airings where all the characters are parodies of themselves and patrick is a complete blithering literal retard
>>376637357
huh
mabel and stan is the only reason i watch the show desu
MC is a pushover
>>376637484
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u2-pKGzskpMxtQB4HoP_jNreKUDb-LB3MqW5OVJX378/edit
Second script, part 4.
>>376637648
Patrick is flat out evil in modern Spongebob.
>>376637842
I only watch the show because I'm super gay for that generic show with dark mystery underneath vibe like Twin Peaks
100 suffering
100 deserved
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 0
>>376637642
tru, tru
let's give him 30 deserved
>>376637990
>100 suffering
wot?
Pre-games Kratos: Deserved 40, Suffered 90
During and post-game Kratos: Deserved 80, Suffered 20
Alright, we've got a fuck ton of suggestions now so I think I'll start putting the image together unless someone else already has.
For multiple suggestions of the same position, try and convince me which one should get the spot. I'd strawpoll it but more could come later.
>>376625446
top this
Suffering: 99999999999999999999999
Deserved: 0
>>376637016
Name one thing Caim did wrong.Even the dragon was slowly convinced to his point of view.
Should we state some extremes so we can scale shit better?
0 Suffering = Completely unharmed and with pristine jimmies
100 Suffering = I have no mouth and i must scream
0 Deserved = A paralyzed vegetable who dindu muffin
100 Deserved = Their actions lead directly to their suffering
>>376636270
Whats the story behind the guide? I know you need to sacrifice him to spawn Wall of Flesh but what did he do to deserve that?
SOTC:
Colossi:
>Suffering 100
>Deserved 0
Dormin:
>Suffering: 30
>Deserved: 80
Wander:
>Suffering: 100
>Deserved: 20
>>376638248
Hedidn't kill ENOUGH people
>>376637840
Just because he's retarded doesn't mean he's inherently a bad person
>>376637880
Seriously? What the fuck? I haven't seen any of the new seasons. Literally why? Patrick was bro tier
>>376638116
>Oldest son betrays you for the immortal beings you fought, he gets exiled and his name stripped from history
>Other son is a cross dressing faggot that gets eaten alive by a giant slime monster thousands of years later
>Oldest daughter moves away and remarries thousands of years later, your grandsons are both cursed and retarded cowards who refuse to sacrifice themselves
>Have another half dragon bastard offspring that gets locked in a tower forever
>Give your youngest daughter to the pgymy lords as a peace treaty, end up having to go kill yourself by burning your own soul alive just to buy your friends and children a little extra time in a dying world
He was a massive scumbag being a God that fucked over humanity by branding humans with the darksign and being the root cause of hollowing but he suffered a lot because of it.
>>376638523
he is basically chaos given physical form
>>376625446
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 0
Deserves: 25
Suffers: 100
He got cucked by his brother all of his life, got mind controlled multiple times, very likely dragoons are now useless due to airships being more efficient (his brother is the captain of those airships btw) so he lost his job, got cucked by his brother again and lost the girl he loved forever, he exiled himself to a mountain so he stops being cucked, still keeps being cucked by an evil clone of himself.
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 60
Burned alive but she wouldn't have if she wasn't such a ditz...and she really want too far with the end justify means later in life.
>>376632240
susie is 20,100
Back. I got a lot of catching up to do.
>>376637026
finally a chance to post this
>>376626669
>rick and bojack on the same level of suffering as dipper
Holy fuck what is /co/ smoking
Suffering: 20
Deserves: 70
suffering: 30
Deserves: 5
she is a stupid disciple.
>>376633348
>>376633981
It's Clarissa.
>>376639069
All of it is completely arbitrary and there isn't a proper metric to decide anything
Suffering:92
Deserves:34
>>376639557
>Deserves that little
He destroyed the world
>>376626107
I would bump him up to 65/0 at least consideringHis vision of the first Hollow Knight getting chosen by the King because he was just a little bit late, at which point he realizes he has no purpose and lets go to fall back into the abyss.
Pic related is a 60/50
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 0
Deserved after the game: 20
I'm the only one that inmediately thought about PU's after seeing OP's image?
>>376639543
Yeah, that's what makes it fun. P.S. given the inevitable contested spots some characters with the same suggested spots may still get in but at perhaps slightly different places depending on arguments and my own judgement. Even then, in the latter case I'll take your word for it as I haven't played all of these games and I can probably understand the suggestions in the first place.
>>376639780
He just had to score that last 2-pointer, anon, he didn't mean to do any harm.
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 80
suffering: 100
deserves: 80
>>376640463
He knew damn well what he was doing, he was tired of the sponsorships that was ruining the game, he himself wanted BBall to be pure.
suffering: 60-80
deserves: 20-30
>>376640015
suffering 65
deserved 45
>>376641031
you reversed those numbers, all TJ had to do was understand
Suffering: 25
Deserved: 100
Posting my progress with the image so far in case the thread dies.
>>376641305
he admitted he was wrong later though
>>376626669
Who's the one at the top left and the ones at the top right?
>>376641393
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 100
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 0
>>376626669
>Dream
No, he didn't.CYCLOPS WAS RIGHT
Suffering: 90
Deserves: 0 and 100
>>376641457
>Sigurd (75, 25)
Fuck off Alvis.
Suffering: 60
Brainwashed (recovered), learned feelings and immediately suffered from them, lost the love of her life fighting what she was made to stop.
Deserved: 20
Cursed a child with the embodiment of Death.
>>376641457
OP here. Thank you. I would likely make another thread within the next week to continue this collective effort.
>>376641548
The top left corner is the elderly couple from "When the Wind Blows." They suffer a terrible fate for reasons far beyond their control. The top right characters are Cerebus of his eponymous comics and Dream of the Endless of DC.
>>376641576
Actually, make that deserved 10, as 0 is already taken.
>>376637357
She's borderline emotionally abusive to her brother and constantly puts her whims over the legitimate needs of others.
Mabel is genuinely a terrible person. The fact that she's never really called out on this is frustrating.
>>376635931
>did nothing wrong
>violents pursues crowns killing or destroying who ever is wearing them
>up to and including his own hand
>refuses to administer over new subjects
Since there is such a thing called right of conquest, and the only guard that seemed to be on point was the lil'mushroom with a spear(who is so fucking CUTE OMG)I would knock him down to 50-60 deserves.
>>376641891
>Lucas deserved any of his suffering
He was like 4 years old when the events of Mother 3 started to occur, he did nothing wrong throughout his travels.
>>376641891
(0, 100) is one of the most contested spots so far. It'd be difficult to fit all of them in AFAIK. I know Lucas to some extent and I can see how he is one of those characters who suffers for reasons far beyond his control. I am not sure how much wrongdoing he has done or how much suffering he has caused upon himself, which is more or less what determines the z values.
Suffering: 10
Deserves: 0
>>376637183
>deserves 90
>>376642004
Yeah but 0 is already taken.
>>376642047
People just need to stop jumping on the "LOOKIT MY CHARACTER HE SUFFERED FUCKING HELL FOR NO REASON" and actually post sensible scores.
Suffering 80, deserves 60
>>376637183
LEAVE TRUMP ALONE
>>376642048
You can be a real jackass with the girls if you choose to, I'd bump deserves up a bit.
And Izanagi was mythologically kind of a dick, so there's that too.
>>376642048
On the flipside, Minato is an easy 90/20 (theoretically caused a lot of his own suffering by blindly following Ikutsuki)
Pre-game Joker is 50/5, during-game Joker is 50/25, post-game I wouldn't know.
>>376642076
I'll put him at Suffering 95 instead
Suffering: ?
Deserve: 80-100
>suffering: 30/100
>deserved: 0/100
admittedly a lot of his pain is psychological and mental because Luigi gets treated like a piece of shit basically everywhere he walks, but he a good boy, he dindu nuffin.
Deserves 0, suffers 70
>>376641572
To be fair back then jews had a penchant for shitting on everything else for personal gain backed up by the fact they were kicked out of every country they entered. Were they the sole reason why Germany was shit? Probably not. Did they need to be eliminated? Yes.
Jak's suffering should be 80 and his deserving should be 10
>>376642426
>>376642472
Luigimind.
>>376642160
>watched his mother die painfully when he was 6
>older brother goes missing around the same time, never comes back
>dad became a depressive shit who's never around
>world falls to shit around him
>gets dragged through the game even though he doesn't want to fight
>learns that the only reason everything was good before those pig faggots showed up was because everyone was brainwashed to be happy all the time
>has to kill his own brother who is now a cyborg
>is forced to end the world as a last resort
>>376642279
I'll one-up you on this.
Suffering: 75
Deserves: 95
>Suffering:
could depend on interpretation I Suppose, he did get what he wanted in the end but how cool he was with it is up for debate. I'd put him around 30.
>Deserved:
easily in the upper 80s, bottom 90s, dude was a total ass.
suffering 100
deserves 100
>>376642426
75-80 suffering
35-40 deserved
>>376642279
>>376642673
Contested spots aside, Wander from Shadow of the Colossus has been the most suggested character so far with the following spots: (20, 100), (80, 70), (80, 100)
>>376642784
Don't be that way, anon. Lots of videogame characters are animals and it's relevant to discussion.
>>376635297
>Her bodyguards died while trying to defend her from a Telethia attack and experiences survival guilt
>Has to feel the pressure of being the rightful heir of Alcamoth
>Her mother tried to kill her during her test of becoming the monarch
>Is discriminated by others due to being a half breed
>Her father gets killed by Metal Face and she sees it happen
>Discovers the horrifying truth of her race
>Sees her brother become a mindless beast and then later on is forced to fight him
>Doesn't get to be with Shulk
>>376625682
For those who don't know:
>Go to job interview
>fail because your older brother rigged it without you knowing
>"well I like cooking"
>go to your new job as a chef
>get accused of being a pedophile by a loli
>get wrapped up in some incident with terrorists on a train
>kill your brother
>train crashes
>end up in debt and forced to work
>your employer tasks yo with saving the world
>have to genocide multiple alternative worlds daily to accomplish this
>save this one chick from an alt world though
>start developing a relationship
>"lol nope"
>she gets killed and is replaced by her counterpart in your universe
>nobody gives a shit but you and your daughter
>meet a strange masked guy in the alt world, he's the loli's dad
>tries to take her from you and destroy your world
>you kill him
>he's you
>the loli is your daughter
>daughter gets supercancer
>your boss takes her because she is needed for a sacrifice ritual in order to save the world
>try and stop him
>have to kill your brother again to do so
>find your daughter
>you can't be with her because one of you will die unless the other does
>also have to kill your dad to save the world
This is also missing some things I believe.
Suffering: 35%
Deserved: 50%
>>376643095
>Wander
>only deserved 20
>>376642703
Agreed on all accounts, 30~35 suffered and 85~90 deserved.
Suffering: 20
Deserved: 80
What vidya characters are 0/0?
>>376643263
>>376643548
those bullies can't even appreciated the fact that he rigged his mask's eyes to express emotions?
>>376643095
Wander:
Suffered: 80.
Smashed around by stone giants, cucked until the very last second, cursed to birth an entire race of shitty horned children but got to spend time with cutie princess as a baby.
Deserved: Highly debatable, I'd personally put him around 55. Stole a priceless relic from his tribe, stole a corpse, brought them both into a prohibited land, literally awakened an ancient evil and became it, killed a bunch of shitty human guards who didn't do nothing but was thoroughly manipulated on every possible turn and didn't do anything out of evil intentions.
The horse, however: 1000/-100, poor soul
>>376625446
Deserve: 0
Suffering: 100
>Parents died
>All her friends died
>Her father figure died (Lee)
>Her father figure died again (Omid)
>Her mother figure was lost (Christa)
>Her father figure died again (Kenny)
>Has to take care of a baby
>Loses her finger
>Loses her baby
>Gets branded
>Has to live on her own
>Is only 13 years old
>>376643532
The suicidal penguins from Disgaea I guess or goblin sappers from WC2 & 3.
Suffering 90
Deserved 20
>>376643532
pokemon protagonists
>>376643868
I think being suicidal in any sense of the word would imply some suffering. I know the Prinny's are certainly not down for it, they can still feel fear and other things.
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 70
>>376643978
That just leaves >>376643926 and sappers then.
>>376626669
What did Bubble Buddy ever do?
Post 100/100 characters, pic very much related
From what I have checked so far, the most contested spots are (0, 100) with 9, (0, 90) with 2, (0, 10) with 2, (20, ~70) with 2 (but Roxas can be probably be shifted in one direction), (20, 100) with 3, (60, 30) with 2, (80, 100) with 5 candidates (Wander is one of them), and (100, 100) with 5. Other spots may have some relative suggestions belonging to them, but we might figure them out over time.
>Suffering: 80-90
>Deserved: 0
>>376644192
He let a dude drown to death.
>>376643650
>User was automatically filtered for posting a banned word or phrase
this comic never fails to trigger furfags
Suffers: 70
Deserves: 10
Suffering - 35
Deserved - ∞
He is single-handedly responsible for everything that happens Episode 3 and onwards, including Season 2 and 3.
Suffers 90-100
Deserves 50-60
>>376637183
t. Agnsty primarch with daddy issues.
>Suffering: 40-50
>Deserved:10
Dude can be a bit of an ass sometimes but he did lose his fucking dad and is also the universes' jobber.I still love him tho.
>>376644294
And he poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!
>>376644381
Depends on what you do with him at the end of Episode 4. If you drop him then he breaks his legs and then gets eaten alive. I'd say that's more than a 35.
>>376625446
suffers: 30
deserves: 35
>>376644575
He did?
>>376644309
>>376639043
Hitler is Delta?
>>376645326
>the transporter where delta arrived was in Germany, and he grew up there
these motives are too complex, was Auschwitz just a giant decision game camp?
>>376643532
Rance
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 0
Suffering: 10
Deserved: 20
>>376638316
He practices evil voodoo magic. That's how he knows how to summon the wof.
>>376638387
>Dormin deserved 80
Fuck off Emon.
>>376630237
Reading Tatsuya Scenario boosts his suffering to 100 easily.
>>376635554
DQV Hero did nothing wrong, and got fucked for it.
Suffering: 40-60
Deserves: 5-10
>>376646647
Yeah I got the numbers backwards.
100 suffering, 0 deserve.
Suffering: 70-90
Deserves: Probably 75+. I don't remember exactly how much is his fault.
>>376643926
Are we only doing protagonists? N suffered a bit at the end of B/W.
Suffering:50
Deserves:40
He doesnt really need the shit that truth and toreno put him through. Dealing with the fucking military.
Okay. This image represents the spots are are surely taken and not characters with somewhat relative suggestions.
Suffering: 0.5
Deserves: 99.5
>>376644383
I wouldn't say Wario suffers NEARLY that much. He's a super-tough guy and always comes out on top in the end. 60 tops.
>>376642387
Suffering 40
Deserves 10
Suffering 80
Deserves 10
Didn't Jacket suffer a lot more than Beard because he got blown up, had his best friend and girlfriend die, went crazy, got shot in the head, imprisoned, and then nuked
So who is the true "Suffering 100 Deserves 0" character? So far we have:
>>376625682
>>376632723
>>376635297
>>376635554
>>376638002
>>376639997
>>376641576
>>376645818
Suffering: 78
Deserves: 54
>>376647625
I personally know Lucas the best. One of those characters could arguably take up the space around that spot. (5, 100) and (5, 95) would be those who suffered greatly but may either have been partly responsible for their own suffering and/or have deliberately done something wrong.
Suffering: 70
Deserves it: 80
>>376647625
DQV hero
>>376647635
>his last encounter has a normal trainer theme because Team Skull is crossed off his jacket
you mean deserves: 0
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 0
>>376647625
My vote goes to Ion.
>>376647625
Lucas, see
>>376642604
Suffering: 20
Deserves it: 100
Suffering: 95
Deserves it: 0
>>376648137
Hades already has that spot, so I'll probably bump him up a little.
>>376648137
>Suffering: 20
>locked inside a permanently sealed ball for all of eternity and cannot ever die
>>376648137
>20
i think being immortal, trapped in a capsule for all eternity, with absolutely nothing at all to do but stare out the window, is above even 100 suffering. he will go completely insane eventually, and still be trapped inside.
>>376648137
>Absolutely safe capsule
>suffering only at 20
Suffering: 40
Deserves it: 40
suffering: 100
deserved: 0
>>376648539
what?
>>376637013
>Not both and having the Wiggler be Waluigi's partner in crime.
REEEEEE
>>376625446
>Suffered: 80
>Deserved It: 10
Dude was literally thrown from his homeland, tortured for 2 years with dark eco that gave him a destructive personality for chaos (hence the low Deserved It score as he ended up working for a resistance at first only for revenge before growing to genuinely support the cause) and got tossed out of the very city he saved thanks to Count Asshat who proceeded to gloat over his dead father's corpse about how his father would never know Jak was his son.
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 0
>>376648576
F
>>376648680
I wouldn't say he deserves 0. More like 35 or 40. But yes, he suffers way more than he deserves to.
>>376648765
>there are people that read the manga
lusamine
suffers: 80
deserves: 50
>>376648880
Adventures is alright. Don't tie it to the garbage known as Electric Tale of Pikachu
>>376626669
is double king popular in /co/? I love that animation.
>>376648874
He was one of the first suggestions for the highly-contested (80, 100). I am not too familiar with that game but I figure he can be moved to the left some.
>>376648993
It's fairly popular.
>>376648961
I don't think the manga story should have an impact on the game character's placement.
>>376648919
she really suffered here
>>376639159
>Hating Bro-King
Dude literally built his son his own island (Me And My Katamari) and created a star for him to live on (Beautiful Katamari). Granted, he does punish you, but only when you fail the levels, and if you were good at the game, odds are you never had to see them (save for those CowBear levels, heat levels and campfire levels). He accepts even stars that he rates in the single digits out of 100, granted not without saying you can do better and scolding you. Given his own background against his own father (We Heart Katamari), the King Of All Cosmos is WAY nicer and lenient than his dad.
Now, if you swapped those numbers around to say:
>Suffering: 70
>Deserves: 20
Than we may have something if we count for the Katamari WebComics and pic related.
Suffering: 60
Deserves it: 20
>>376637593
he was kinda right tho
I'd say 75/30
>>376645686
>Rapist at 0/0
Can I have some of the pot that you're smoking?
Suffering: 75
Deserved: 60
Suffering: 50
Deserved: 90
>>376625446
X 100
Y 60
>>376644195
You could fill the Deserves: 100 column with FFT characters alone.
>>376648680
Cmon, he raped his sister, killed hundreds who were just trying to save the world just to try and stop his guilt. He isnt 100 deserving, but damn if it isnt more like 60 or 70
Suffering: 65
Deserves: 0
>No one posted him yet
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 10
>>376648919
fuck that, she got everything she deserved
>>376647625
It's Max
>>376647625
Lucas
>>376647625
Lucas gets my vote
>>376650001
clancy was literally the best character of this stupid game
>>376642491
>back then
Is anyone actually adding to the chart?
>>376647625
Lucas
Suffering: 100
Deserves: Possibly 5-10 asHe kept his gender a secret.
>>376650843
I can do it, albeit very slowly.
>>376647151
See here for a somewhat dated image of the chart which has spots that will likely be filled.
>character dies
>suffering: 100
No shit, try to be more creative
Suffering: 20
Deserved: 70
>>376650938
Who is going to be Suffering: 100 Deserved: 0? It's probably the most contested spot.
>>376651065
I'm personally inclined to making it Lucas.
>>376651065
P3 mc
Suffering: 90
Deserved: 60
>>376637648
>>376638523
Patrick was always a selfish asshole. He's just become more flanderized in the newer seasons. But he was always like this, even in older episodes.
-When Gary leaves SpongeBob because of the cookie in Patrick's shorts, Patrick takes ownership of Gary and constantly puts down SpongeBob who just wants his pet back
-Asks SpongeBob to pretend to be less smart to convince Patrick's parents that he isn't a retard, then verbally abuses SpongeBob constantly even when they're not around
-The entire fucking Free Balloon Day episodes where he selfishly cries about wanting a balloon so they take it, and then later demands SpongeBob';s only food before deciding to turn him in to the police
>>376651181
Nice.
>>376651065
definitely my boy Kaysen
Suffering: 70
Deserved: 10
>>376638523
Old Patrick:
>stupid asshole who fucks things up on accident but still a good bro at the end of the day
Nu-Patrick:
>stupid asshole who fucks things up on purpose
Suffering: 50
Deserved it: 90
>>376651553
Good pick.
>>376651553
whoops
>>376647625
Lucas is definitely 0 Deserved but at the end of the game he lives in a hopeful world with a supporting cast of close friends. I'd bump him down to 95 or 90 with no problem.
Ludger gets my vote simply because he has to make a brutal choice either way and spends the entire game dealing with the sins of others to protect someone equally innocent.
>>376638116
Do you realize what linking the fire is?
It's using your infinitely regenerating body as fuel for the world's biggest fire. It's nothing but pure agony for thousands of years as you burn to death and come back to life again and again.
Suffering 80
Deserved It 10
rate him
The true 0/0
50/50
>>376651949
Suffering 100
Deserved 100
>>376651949
killed a bunch of cunts on self defense so 0 on deserved definitely
>>376651985
Can't really argue here. He didn't really seemed phased by the Subspace adventure and was stated to have no concept of morality, or at least I think someone said that...
>>376642426
>>376642472
Multiple Mario RPGs have touched upon the fact that Luigi isn't really a nice guy deep down, and every partner he has in TTYD gets completely shat on by Luigi in some way. Luigi definitely deserves some of the shit he gets.
>>376652129
Sakurai himself said that. Mr. G&W may be the most true neutral character in vidya history.
>>376643868
Prinnies are the souls of evil humans placed in the penguin body to atone for their sins. They're goofy, but they were still criminals in life.
>>376651949
Caim is the ideal 100/100 no matter which ending are we taking into consideration.
Now rate this fine lass.
>>376652147
Would somewhere around (20, 40) be better for him?
>not totally innocent
>has done a few things deliberately wrong
>not evil though, not even much of a jerk in general
>is able enough to fend for himself
>may be envious of his brother
Deserved: 40
Suffering: 90
>>376651985
winner winner chicken dinner
Suffering 5
Deserved 100
Suffering: 30
Deserved: 50
>>376652465
I was waiting for this one.
>>376626669
Here's the one /a/ made also.
>>376652538
>deserved: 50
t. Mansex
>>376652538
This one seems dubious to me, but I haven't played beyond the first game.
>>376652610
Oh neato. I haven't seen it before.
>>376651394
>good with animals
>cares about what his parents think of him
>law-abiding citizen who isn't afraid to report a crime
>>376642781
I would say 70 suffering and 50 deserved. He was a prick, but did have his moments and still didn't deserve his fate.
>>376652359
Yeah, that's good.
>>376652684
>>376651394
>arguing about spongebob
>>376652610
>Umaru at 0/100
Why is /a/ called Anime/Manga if no one reads Manga?
>>376652610
>Griffith
>90 on deserved it
But that's wrong
Suffering: 50
Deserves it: 80
X 10
Y 100
Suffering: 80
Deserved it: 40
>>376652807
I figure roughly all of the TF2 characters belong around there.
>>376652610
>Legit rape victims around 20-30 suffering point
What?
>>376652929
Blue seems to unjustly suffer more than Red in all the official material but they all deserve it anyway
>>376652538
Sora dindu nuffin, he's the guddest of boys.
>>376652929
what exactly did medic do to deserve the suffering he endures?
>>376652610
>geiger counter girl
>that ratio of deserving/suffering
What was their reasoning?
>>376652610
How is the mindbroken by a home invader loli only at 25 suffering with a 15 deserved?
Suffering: 5-10
Deserves: 100
>>376652005
No, fuck you. She's a cunt who kills kids.
Deserves every bit of it.
>>376651949
100/100 for sure.
Caim rhymes with murder.
>>376652610
only neo-/a/ could make a chart this bad
>>376653020
Well he made that deal with Satan...
Suffering 20
Deserved it 0
Need to get some lower scale stuff in there too
Way too many people posting 0/100 and 100/0 shit, /v/ has no subtlety.
>>376626669
Although I guess /co/'s one that tries to fill in the middle isn't much better. Rick and Bojack on Dipper's level of suffering is laughable and Tom doesn't deserve anywhere near the amount of shit he gets from Jerry, who deserves to be down in the bottom right for deserving everything and getting nothing.
>>376653058
She was asking for it by being so sexy
>>376653020
>was so insane he was kicked out by the nazis during wwii
>caused a man to lose his skeleton entirely
>outscammed satan himself
He kinda does.
>>376653062
Bitch her suffering would be fucking negative because of her masochism and despair boner causing any suffering to have the opposite effect on her. I mean, shit, she causes her own suffering just because it turns her on, so she should be like -100 or something.
>>376653221
Suffering: 5
Deserves: 5
Just a harmless kid who was just playing a prank before having his sister stoned. Learned to shape up in the end.
>>376653291
>outscammed satan himself
deserves 0 just for pulling this off
>>376653334
So, place her below the graph?
Suffering - 90
Deserved it - 15
>>376653291
Don't forget he keeps a live head in his fridge, doesn't inform his patients of risks and/or permanent damage, and performs experiments on his friends.
Suffering 30
Deserved it ???
>>376653430
Yes. She's a very special case.
suffering 40
deserved 5
Suffering: 60
Deserved it: 15
Suffering - 70
Deserved it - 10
Suffering: 65
Deserved: 30
Suffering: 0
Deserved it: 75
Suffering - 0
Deserved it - 40
>>376653512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuMw6624oZo
I'm guessing 10 for deciding to help a uprise against the king?
>>376652289
Probably deserves something worse than she got. Getting eaten by giant babies is bad, but dem good baby eats are Arioch's fetish. She doesn't deserve a "lol ironic wacky clever" death.
90 Suffering
Apparently 100 Deserved
110 deserved if you release Coaxmetal
>>376653512
D E E P E S T
L O R E
>>376653826
But what did he do?
>>376653334
truly the best, my queen
R8
>>376653892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810
>>376652610
>Nagato suffering at 80
lel
Suffering: 50
Deserved it: 50
Suffering - 15
Deserved it - 100
Fuck deserves it 200 just for Johnny.
>>376654005
90/60
Suffering: 0
Deserved it: 80
Suffering 0
Deserved It 50
Suffering: 25
Deserved it: 65
Anyone adding these to the chart?
50/40
>>376654005
suff: 90
deserve: 70
>>376654296
Given my own diligence and resources, expect to see it as soon as tomorrow, if not later. There's not much else I want to do or even need to do right now.
>>376653746
Snake had a hard life
Suffering: 45
Deserved: 90
>>376653746
I'd say at least a 30 on deserves it. It's heavily implied he gets off on slaughtering people, and even if he directs that toward taking down terrorists, he's still kind of crazy. Plus he made some dubious decisions in MGS2, like intentionally letting Raiden get captured and tortured to get into Arsenal without really knowing if he would be okay.
what's Madotsuki scale /v/?
Suffering: 40
Deserves: 25
Is there a protagonist that suffered so much they turned from useless to savior of the universe?
>>376654619
everyone on ss13 should have suffering at least 80 desu
Suffering: 85
Deserved: 10
>>376654806
>intentionally letting Raiden get captured and tortured to get into Arsenal without really knowing if he would be okay
I don't think that makes him deserve suffering, because he was a good soldier that saw his mission through to the end. Would you say the same about Big Boss having to kill The Boss?
>>376654991
Homura was the one who fucked everything up in the first place
>>376654991
Lucas seems to be one of those kinds of characters.
>>376640469
I wouldn't say that he deserved it that much, maybe a 50 but not an 80.
My boy Caim should be
Suffering: 50
Deserved: 100
I mean did he really suffer if he enjoyed a lot of it?
>>376654806
Eh, these two are highly trains secret agent doods. They know what they're getting into when they sign up. Raiden getting tortured was a possibility he opened himself up to, and Snake took advantage to complete the mission.
>>376652610
>Emergence girl not even at 50
Suffering: 60
Deserved it: 70
Man watched his people get slaughtered by Zanza & is hated by the survivors because of his extreme methods.. Although throughout most of the game he was just trying to protect his people and kill the Bionis, he did it in the most autistic way by mass murdering the homs, instead of working with the high entia to keep Zanza imprisoned & to breed the telethia gene out.
It didn't contribute to the greater good either, he's also indirectly responsible for releasing Zanza.
>>376647625
Definitely Ion. Motherfags never played any Gust game to begin with.
>>376655189
No she didn't. If she would've just accepted Madoka dying then Madoka would've never been important enough to become a Goddess.
>>376626669
>Jaune Arc
>5/10
explain"being from a shitty show" is not valid.
>>376655146
>>376655350
It's still a callous move that put a rookie in a very dangerous spot. He's using Raiden as a tool. It would be one thing if he explained the plan to Raiden beforehand. Or hell, why didn't he let himself get captured? Or Olga? Someone other than the young shmuck who had no business even being on that mission?
>>376625446
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 5
She always had the option to snitch.
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 20
>all these 100 suffering
you're not supposed to score it as IGN
>>376652986
made by /a/
>>376653892
IT ALLOWS ME TO DRAW THIS 2 AT THE END OF MY POST
>>376625446
Suffers: 10
Deserves: 100
Suffering: 60
Deserved: 10
>>376636048
this. she has much more suffering.
>>376625446
Suffering: 55
Deserves: 55
She really didn't have it that bad you know.
>>376652610
>oberstein
Oberstein suffers almost nothing and deserved a lot more
>>376652610
This chart is godawful, /a/ is the fucking worst
what is Adachi?
>>376656363
Suffering: 70
Deserved: 90
>>376656363
10/70
Fuck Adachi
Suffers: 60
Deserved: 30
Or somewhere around there.
I mean her whole family died but most of that was because she was not aware of what the other champions needed and somewhat brought some of this on herself basically.
>>376652610
Now that I think about it, where would Saitama go on here? Surely he's close to the bottom left corner but not (0, 0) material.
>>376653251
It is a decent display of the difference between /v/ and /co/. /v/ sees things as either 10/10 or 0/10, and /co/ always tries to take the middle ground. Dicks vs. pussies.
>>376654885
Probably 0 /70
>>376626669
>code lyoko guy
ehat did he do to deserve suffering?
>>376656502
Suffers: 15
Deserves: 10
>>376656502
Suffers 30
Deserves 10
>>376654885
Suffering 30
Deserved it 50
Smelly NEET
>>376625446
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 60
Suffers: 80
Deserves: 65
>>376656583
Start a war, atempted genocide and not fuck best girl
>>376655501
Walpurgis destroys the city in every iteration in addition to Madoka dying though. Eventually she just keeps going back to make sure she can kill it solo.
>>376656724
>>376652610
>Dio at 75 suffering
>Not deserving it at 100
Oh boohoo, I'm sure those 12 years with his abusive, drunk daddy justify the decades of terrible shit that him and his faggotty fanclub did that eventually concluded with the universe being destroyed.
>>376656782
>Start a war, atempted genocide
If you're talking about fighting XANA, you're just... I don't know what to even say to you. That's like saying Batman should suffer for fighting the Joker.
>>376656852
All he wanted to do was be NUMBAH 1 and rise above his shitty past out of jealous for muh Joestar Legacy.
Then lost via total asspull.Jonathan's at the perfect spot on that chart though, so kudos to /a/ for that. rest of it is shit
>>376626669
>bubble buddy
I laughed
>>376654417
can you put up a version so we can see some progress
>>376657191
If we're lucky enough maybe I can post something before the thread is archived.
>>376656870
I read code geass somewhere sorry mang
>>376656789
But because she wouldn't give up after thousands of failed attempts Madoka became the single most important person in the Universe since time could not move on without her survival which led to her contract making her a god instead of just giving her a cute little bow like it originally did.
Suffering: 80
Deserves it: 45
suffered: 50
deserved: 70
>>376626669
>Pearl
80/80
What a hell
Should be more like
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 20
>>376652610
>fucking Polnareff higher than Okabe
>Geiger Counter girl not at deserved it 0
>Kaiji lower than Trunks
>>376657545
I figure that it's fun to hate on her.
>>376654005
can't really think of anyone from any game that suffered more than him
I'd say 95/75
>>376657545
As one of the world's biggest Pearl fanboys I can tell you she's not innocent and inflicted a lot of hurt on her self. Her obsession with Rose Quartz bordered on entitlement, and she made it everyone's problem.
Still the best gem tho.
Suffering: 10
Deserves: 90
>>376638248
Not tapping Furiae's ass. Incest is best, wouldn't rhyme unless it were true.
0/100? I'm not sure Caim even has any humanity left to feel anything but bloodlust.
>>376657817______________________
>>376658182
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
>>376658182
__ ____ __ ___ ___ ___ _______ __ _____
Suffering: 14
Deserves: 88
suffering: 85
deserved: 40
>>376657804
Yeah but 80 in deserves is excessive
For what happened to her
>>376625446
Suffering 200
Deserved 0BUY HIS GAME
Ace Attorney up in this bitch:
Pheonix at 20,70
Larry at 40,50
Edgeworth at 10,60
Maya at 20,60
Pearls at 0,40
Franziska at 50,40
Manfred at 0,80just kidding. 70,60
Engarde at 90,90
Dhalia at 100,100
Godot at 50,80
Suffering: 40
Deserves: 25
>>376658426
Nah, it seems about right. She made her choices, she took her stands, she picked her battles. She was never thrust into a situation that took away her agency, and she made every decision to land her where she is now.
The only things that happened TO her and not BECAUSE of her is the fact that her waifu decided to off herself and have a kid, leaving her to act as a surrogate mom for a child she never asked for.
Think of it this way, she LITERALLY tries to indoctrinate Connie into being a bodyguard for Steven to the death. She was willing to risk Steven dying so that she could get home. Hell, she has a tally of almost killing Steven for selfish desires at this point.
Pearl isn't bad, but she makes a lot of really poor decisions. It's part of why I love her.
>>376653857
he's the only one itt who actually deserves a 100/100
well maybe this fuck >>376651949 too
Suffering: 60
Deserves: 20
Where does he go?
>>376658627
both edgeworth and godot suffered more than that.
suffers: 100
deserves:70
though it depends on the person, none of them were good people
Professor Layton
Suffers: 65
Deserves: 5
Dude just wanted to solve puzzles
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 0
Poor Red didn't do anything wrong
>suffering: 80
>deserves: 20
>>376631217
How does he deserve it
80/40
>mechanic kid who dreams of travelling the stars, contracts qt waifu to escort him to space
>fightan pirates, doing cargo jobs, easy shit
>somehow becomes involved in a civil war and later an invasion by a fuckhuge empire
>qt waifu fucking dies trying to buy time for him to escape the fuckhuge imperialist monarchy from beyond the stars
>forcing a star to go supernova annihilating an entire sector and the two warring fleets in it. Not particularly related to his suffering but it was pretty hardcore
>spends 10 years doing hard time for trying to rally the pacifist confederation neighbor to attack the imperialist monarchy that invaded his home sector
>grows into some kinda badass, starts doing space piratery and sheyt
>is forced into the military to act as the vanguard and becomes involved in three major wars in short succession, one of them against the fuckhuge empire from way back in Act 1
>over 30% casualty rate for both countries, losses many friends during the third war
>surprise, the Precursors are coming and are going to wipe clean the Universe
>oh yeah, loses qt sisterwaifu toReality alteration programs that don't just kill her, they wipe out her very existence so only Yuri even remembers her
>casualty rate over 99.999...% in the whole of creation, only a few remaining planets still alive because the precursors haven't gotten to them, yet
>hatches a desperate plan to cutoff the entry gate of the precursors into the Universe, travelling to the dead planet of Earth to accomplish so
>>376659884
He's a good boy who did nothing wrong
>>376638748
Did you ever actually play the game?
Cecil = Jesse
Rosa = Jesse's Girl
Kain = Rick Springfield
Suffers: 100
Deserves: 30
>>376660065
He did get involved in a devious scheme that ultimately cost his life. He's definitely around there.
>>376659884
Okay but I thinkAsgorewould be a more interesting rating.
Suffering: 100
Deserves it: 10
Don't meddle with time
Alright everybody. This thread is about to reach its bump limit. Expect the chart to be filled with characters in the next thread coming soon.
>>376660297
forgot Pic related
>>376660284
probablysuffers 40-50 and deserves 60-70? i dunno
Where is doom guy on this scale?
0/10?
>>376660548
His pet rabbit was killed by the demons. That's where some of his suffering comes from, yes?
>>376659394
40/50 I'd say. But the more accurate question would be which Rance? kikichou Rance?
>>376652610
>Kenshin only at 60
He's (80,20) at LEAST.
(100.0)
30,75
>>376659426
Godot didn't suffer more than an 80. Guy got poisoned, found out that Mia died, then got arrested/executed. Compare that to Dhalia who got executed, spent years planning her revenge, then ended up fucking up because she got outsmarted. She gets sent back to hell with the knowledge that Mia totally and completely defeated her for all eternity.
Edgeworth didn't suffer a damn thing. His dad died and he thought he was responsible for it, then his mentor turned out to be an asshole. Nick suffered way more than Miles did.
Would Arthas be 100/100?
60/70
Yeah he's a bit of a cunt but that's sorta expected from the world and his positionnow Caine would be 100/100
>>376633348
He does work at a factory that needs a full containment suit though. That's got to be uncomfortable.
>>376660284
Humans Rate Him:
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 40
Monsters Rate Him
Suffering: 100
Deserves: 0
Overall...
Suffering: 90
Deserves: 20
He did lead the war against humans, but that was a war that was started by the humans, and he only declared war in anger and later regretted it, but didn't want to leave his monster brethren behind.
>>376661754
>>376633348
Not to defend the twat, but Clarissa does remember of a picture of her and her father genuinely happy. If it was because he was raising her up before his planned sex times or if something happened in his life that made him snapped, I have no idea, but I feel like it could be important one day.
Suffering: 5
Deserved suffering: 70
Alright. Lemme tell ya that I am working on the chart now. So far Mr. Game & Watch and Little Mac are on it.