This is Persona 5. Spencer Yan LITERALLY copied Persona 5.

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>>376618490
JUST

it's fan-made/non-profit game, right?
no need to spreg desu

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>>376618832
It's a fan-made/non-profit "wink-wink nudge-nudge" game. He'll give the half-baked version for free and go "PLEASE DONATE TO MY PATREON IF YOU WANT MORE CONTENT!"

>>376618832
Don't you have a job, Ash?

What's this relation to Hotline Miami? Is this made by one of the staff from that game?

Miami 2 was pretty bad and this brazen knockoff Persona 5 seals the deal, they were a one hit wonder with the original Hotline Miami.

>>376619190
Nope. It's a fan-made (though "fan" is arguable considering Spencer Yan says he hates the themes of Hotline Miami because he doesn't understand them) mod that was supposed to be a spiritual successor set after Hotline Miami 2. After his girlfriend left him everything took a 180 and he changed the game into a persona-style life simulator with Hotline Miami segments.

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IT'S NOT PLAGIARISM.

IT'S ART.

>>376619335
Oh I see, thank you for the gestalt update.

>literally attacking a free fangame

This is how sad weebs are now

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>>376619506
Stop trying to avoid me, Ash.

>>376618595
This is just fucking shameful

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>>376619345

>>376619276
>he doesn't know about rpcs3
>destitute console peasants will never be able to play P5 in 1440p at 60 FPS

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>>376618595
I don't see anything wrong with this

Well at least I know never to listen to you idiots as judging by the Steam forum you're all memelords who can't keep 4chan to 4chan

>>376619838
The damage control isn't working, Ash. I know it's you.

Spencer "Madarame" Yan

>attacking a free game
>fapping to doujin
explain

>>376619838
No need to be so upset that we called you out on your shit Spencer

>>376619929
>IP counter does not go up
This isn't working, Ash.

>>376618490
what is his name again?

>>376618595
At first I was like "what's the issue? P5's great and people should be following in its footsteps"
But this is just ridiculous, he's not even trying.

>>376618595
DAYS UNTIL LEGAL ACTION:

>>376619828
of course YOU wouldn't ya DA stealing faggot

>>376620078
>cites evaxephon
You can't make this shit up.

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>>376618595
>>376620165

>>376618595
RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES

WATCH US PLAGIARIZE

YOUR AAAAAAARRRRRRTT

>>376619345
>copying the same exact post from a previous thread
Fuckheads like you are actually incapable of any original thought huh

Definitely must cross over to Reddit if you like reposts so much

>>376618595
SOMEBODY STOP THIS MADMAN

>>376620363
Ash, please. We can discuss this like adults.

>>376618595
Place your bets on how long it'll be for him to get a c&d, I say a week.

>>376620078
>cites yandev about plagiarism
like pottery

>>376620078
>Links to Eva to defend himself

And here I thought I couldn't kek anyharder

>>376619807
>60 fps
You mean 5 fps

I'd rather he steal Persona 5's UI design over most other shittier UI's. The life sim also has its merits in terms of developing the cast better than 1 or 2 did. I just hope he doesn't entirely erase the surreal nature of it by making it "grounded" with relationships and shit.

>>376618490
So the steam board is literally /v/ now.

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>tfw boxcar can only cherrypick one quote from the thread yesterday because the rest are calling out blatant tracing
Say it after me: STENCIL YAN

>>376619807
>playing p5 at 60fps
Not sure if bait or retarded

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Being Chinese: A tale of Copying and Pasting

>>376620363
What are you talking about? I just took inspiration from it.

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>>376620078
>Stencil's face when

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>this isn't a fan art pic
>its official art of some indie shitter
L O L!

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I know you're here "Father", so answer me this: How can you put a game as your favorite game, thats not even out yet?
And why are you so butthurt about people pointing out the plagiarism?

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>>376620078
>Citing Eva's ramblings as "excellent"
I just want my Yakuza Hotline Miami, not a life simulator

Let's recap
>Main character is an obvious self-insert of Spencer himself. John is his middle name, he has the same black hair, and distinct effort is put into making John look like a 'punished soul' which Spencer no doubt believes himself to be. Additionally, the game takes place in New York City, where Spencer lives.
>The engine, general gameplay style, and many sprites are stolen from Hotline Miami. No matter how far he tries to distance himself thematically from Hotline Miami, this will remain inherently true in the shooter segments
>Character artwork, UI artwork, Ideas of social links, Personas, and mementos stolen from the Persona series
>One of these Personas, which allows you to teleport across the map, is explicitly stated to be stolen from Blink in Dishonored, and bears many similarities to Mr. Shifty
>Character artwork stolen from a 007 poster
>Weapon HUD stolen from Hitman
>Title is stolen from a book called "The Book of Laughter and Forgetting"

>>376618490

Good can't wait hopefully this will have fun gameplay unlike the shitty persona series

>>376619345
>>376619828
I haven't played P5 yet. Someone redpill me on this Madarame guy.

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spencer's face when he embraces the fact that he will never have an original idea in his life

>>376621212
He steals his students art and releases it as his own

>>376621212
Honourable man. Takes in orphans and gives them a home, despite not having much himself. Kind hearted, selfless; these words all describe Madarame.

>>376621212
he watched a woman seizure while thinking about how he profit from her artwork

>>376621212
He made produced art and people got salty because "it wasn't his" even though it wouldn't be if it weren't for him in the first place.

>>376619807
>20 years later
>j-just y-you wait console p-peasants!!!! ps3 emulation is almost p-playable!!!!!1
top jej

How about instead of telling Atlus about, we tell the HM devs, that way they can stop associating with this game and he can't pull the "endorsed by the devs card"

>>376621212
>used to be a decent painter and teacher
>actually just took his students' paintings and said they were his own
>lauded as a creative genius
>literally starves his live-in students despite getting all these bucks from selling their art

>>376618490
>>376618595
Why is /v/ so slow?

These screenshots were there back in February, and earlier threads about this bullshit never turned into such a shitstorm, it was just an excuse to have a HM thread.

>>376618490
You argued that really badly you utter faggot.
Think before posting if you're gonna call out a shit eater on his cancergame.
It was just opinion vs. creation/plagarism
Back up why it's shit, or otherwise you simply start a flamewar. Faggots deserve to be shut down

>>376621641
>Earlier threads about this bullshit never turned into such a shitstorm
Nice revisionism.

>>376621656
Spencer please...

Do chinks know persona?

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>>376621028
Any time there is ANY thread on /v/ involving games that haven't quite fully been released there will always be a bunch of nu /v/ users who will make their temporary home inside of the sub forum and make contrarian posts.

It recently happened with another game, I can't for the life of me remember what it was called, but after seeing threads on /v/ and then going into the steam forum you can just see the horrendous amount of /v/ posters that flood in, look at their profiles, it's the type of people you never want to associate with.

evidence to the fact, I am sure I have more but it's proof enough that the kids that browse this board will literally stick their fucking heads everywhere and parrot "4chan"

>>376621802
Read the fucking post OP you deadshit retard.

>>376621836
Notice how you can't actually defend Spencer and are instead resorting to Ad hom attacks about /v/ users.

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>Spencer Yan
Of course the fucking Chinese man gets caught for plagiarism.

>>376621792
I clearly remember that people were mad that it turned into Persona, but the interest died down quickly and people just started discussing Hotline Miami in general halfway the thread.

Wait wait wait hold up.

There's nothing wrong with taking an inspiration from assets of a different game.

But this chink just literally copy and pasted shit from one of the most popular JRPGs of the moment and STILL claims that it was just an inspiration?

Who the fuck would believe this? Wait, who the fuck would defend this?

>>376621806
It promotes independent thinking so it's probably banned

>>376621836
Thanks for answering the question "Father"

>>376621972
Madarame would.

>>376621972
Stencil Yan. The thread op linked to shows he obviously knows there have been threads about it on /v/, so why wouldn't he come to shit it up?

>>376618490
Salt and Sanctuary blatantly plagiarized Souls and they got away with it

>>376622240
He has his defense force (BoxcarGamer, LennyReviews, and Ash Davis) come in and try to fight the battles for him while he sits holed up in his discord.

>>376621792
Fuck off, I just checked the archives and pretty much all threads only had a handful of replies, with most people being mad at "weebshit" and the rest saying "it's improved".

Here's some (You). Nice revisionism.

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>>376621932
>>376622161
Except for the part where I am not Father you literal autistic windbags.

>being this damn retarded

>>376621806
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xacFFQYKGk

>>376618490
>Gamedev is copying art and stealing ideas
>he's chinese

EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>376622632
>The rest saying "it's improved"
LMAO, source that shit, faggot.

>>376621836
>Any time there is ANY thread on /v/ involving games that haven't quite fully been released there will always be a bunch of nu /v/ users who will make their temporary home inside of the sub forum and make contrarian posts.

Fuck off, this shit only happens when the dev does a big fuck up

For example Besige threads used to be the opposite of what are you crying about.

This is just a case of

>people wanted more HM they got Persona now
>weebs are pretty defensive and love to shitpost
>shitposters just jump into the bandwagon

>>376622672
>skipping opening
stupid chink

>>376622656
Not an argument, as I never implied you were Father in my post. Defend Spencer without using ad hom.

>>376618595
Ok, that's actually plagiarism.

why some faggot with shitty "free" game is relevant again?

>>376618490
That mod was in development before persona 5 was released, retard. If anything he copied the older ones

>>376618595
>the parts he doesn't trace all look like shit
Makes you think.

>>376623003
>Being retarded.

>>376623003
>p5 released september
>public art change was February

>>376622656
Jesus Christ. How fucking autistic and butthurt do you actually have to be to respond to a shitpost with your actual profile?
But then again, you did sperg out over /v/ calling out blatant plagiarism, just because you want your free game. So I guess the answer is pretty butthurt and pretty autistic.

>>376622934
Again, you are a fucking retard.

I am not trying to defend anyone in any of my posts, the fact that you are still going on after being told so just goes to show how much of a retard you are.
>>376623123
I don't want the game and I will never play it.

Stop going on a fucking literal tirade just because someone popped in and said that /v/ is filled with contrarian children and try killing yourself instead.

What are you going to do, send me a friend request you fucking loser?

>A2MR
>Nintendo why you C&D this expression of fan love for your IP?
>Thread
>Atlus sue this bitch he be stealing yo shit

>>376623226
First off, Reddit formatting. Second off, you seem to be getting pretty heated for somebody who claims he doesn't care at all. Quit embarrassing yourself.

>>376623226
>I don't want the game and I will never play it.
Sure. Also
>calls others children
>unironically uses kill yourself
Jesus man calm down. I can almost hear your heart beat by now

>>376623296
LE REDDIT BOGEYMAN xD

LE MAD XD

>>376622656
Enjoy having a bunch of dick pics sent to your steam inbox.

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Watch ash davis and the other faggots in his social circle come along to valiantly defend their "friend" that they only hang around with incase he becomes famous or rich

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>P5 has an entire arc about how plagiarizing and stealing other people's works is a crime
>people still defend literal Madarame incarnate
I don't understand.

>>376623267
On /v/ pettiness is king

literally who?

>>376623425
What a mature and constructive response.

JUST

>>376623440
>spencer
>rich and famous
With how unoriginal he is, selling a game for money would get him C&Ded in an instant.

>>376619506
The thing is though he is blatantly ripping off artwork. It would be fine if the style was maybe inspired by it but it's effectively like sonic recolours.

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>106 posts
>46 IPs

>>376623267
>>376623471
If you really don't see the difference then you're both retarded.
This isn't a Persona fangame. What you're talking about is a scenario in which someone would make Persona 6 himself.
Hell when this was still a HM fangame, /v/ even had some interest in it.

Would he have been able to avoid a lot of shit if he'd just come out and said "yeah I'm copying the UI and tracing the portraits, this is a fangame so I can do that, deal with it" instead of claiming "inspiration"?

>>376619108
I hate this knew trend of e-begging.
>So uh yeah guys uhh im an aspiring artist donate to patreon pls. Ty!

>>376623713
>What are discussions

>>376623795
He'd still be called out for being a lazy hack and that would also be an admission of guilt.

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>>376623267
I never defended A2MR, but to my knowledge, they built all their assets from the ground up. And it's a Metroid game made by fans, not a quasi-original game that is stealing assets and ideas from a game that it shares no relation with. Big difference.

Stop being so disingenuous.

>>376623795
To some degree I think so yeah. I mean, people would've still called it out. But spencer trying to hide the tracing and blatant copying is like throwing a cat toy for /v/

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>>376619898
This guy is not even hiding it anymore. Lol shameless really.

>>376623713
>only allowed to reply once per thread

>>376621972

That's not even the worst part. He specifically got the blessing to basically make a HM game. He used that fan base to get traction and attention. He then proceeded to just bait and switch.

>>376620834
Its what they are made to do anon. It's not like they produce anything of value anyway.

LMAO FATHER IS LITERALLY SPENCER

>>376623267
This is more like trying to make a final fantasy game with Metroid assets.
The devs gave him permission to make a hotline Miami game.

>>376622326
No it didnt. It was a homage and it used all its own assets and had its own art style.

I am so fucking confused. Isn't it a HM sequel? Why the fuck would the Chinaman just trace and copy Persona, a totally game? Someone give me the history on the bait and switch.

>>376619898
> Persona
> "Inherited"

Really activates my almonds.

A HEARTBEAT FOR A CON MAN

>>376618490
Looks more like Wojak than Persona to me.

Are we sending the calling card today?

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Let's talk about hotline Miami 2.
What are the worse weapons and why are they the double barrel shotgun and baton

>literally who indie game
Who fucking cares? If you didn't make this thread, probably 10 people would've seen this and no given a single fuck. Now you've put hordes of /v/ autists on the case and next thing you know this devs will come out as a tranny and have a full page spread on Polygon about how GamerGate is alive and well. Fuck off.

>>376624445
Nice slippery slope logic anon. So what? We're not allowed to laugh at someone for being a faggot? Fuck off.

>>376624305
>Goes onto greenlight advertised as a HM2 sequel
>Later drops the HM3 aspect because of the 2016 election (or more likely because his girlfriend broke up with him)
>Changes it into a dating sim with Hotline Miami elements
>Everybody loses their shit over the art change
>Recently anons find the game's utter plagiarism of Persona's artwork
>Spencer (the dev) tries to claim that there was no tracing and he was only using pictures as a "reference" (while all the non-traced parts drawn by him look like shit)

>>376619345
Says the guy reposting the same joke from last thread

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>>376624441
Only two shots per reload and slow attack speed

>>376624571
> slippery slope logic
It's called the "slippery slope fallacy" for a reason and not logic for a reason.

>>376618595
Just Madarame my shit up.

>>376624668
That just makes it a meta joke

>>376622794
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367304796/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367337403/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367365476/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367483093/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367571298/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367976298/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/370265853/
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/370628021/
Look. Active threads were mostly Hotline Miami-oriented. Some people seemed to be looking forward to the game, but majority of them absolutely hated the weebshit. People didn't even notice that portraits were blatantly traced, since the game wasn't out in English yet. And also the fact that Persona fans have no reason to check Hotline Miami thread.

>>376624441
You won't get any Hotline Miami suggestion there, boy. Earlier Midnight Animal shitstorm threads were actually Hotline Miami-oriented, but this thread is filled with Personafags.

>>376624441
>worst weapon
fuck that
Best weapon
Mendoza
So crunchy

>>376624668
It's not like he's taking credit for inventing the joke though.

>>376624305
>Originally decides to make hotline Miami fangame, dennation give him their blessings to use their assets as long as Yan doesn't charge money
>Yan gets dumped, and persona 5 "makes him see the light"
>He then traces and steals ideas
>Game will inevitably get cancelled by devolver or atlus
>He goes on a killing spree

>>376619807
Nor will PCbros, whats your point.

Nintendo makes GOTYAY
>Fuck Nintendo guys! Remember to "donate" at least $50 to Team CemU so we can play BotW on PC at 12 FPS! I-I-It's not piracy guys! Shut up!

Literally who indie dev mades a f2p game exclusive to Steam
>Holy fucking shit guys, this guy is copying Persona. You call Atlas, I'm already on the phone with my personal IP attorney. Remember to spam this guy's Steam page with meme. HE CAN'T GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!!

My almonds have never been more activated. Good job guys.

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CHINA

>>376623795

He'd still get shit but at least there would be a tiny bit of honesty. I don't understand how so much evidence is building up yet his stance hasn't changed. Anyone with a pair of eyes and a brain can see he is stealing art.

>>376624842
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367337403/
Not Hotline Miami oriented
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367365476/
Not Hotline Miami oriented
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367483093/
4 posts
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367571298/
Not Hotline Miami oriented
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/367976298/
Not Hotline Miami oriented
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/370265853/
Not Hotline Miami oriented
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/370628021/
One reply

>>376625003
>implying /v/ is a hivemind
And for your information, only a vocal minority of Mustards are shilling CEMU even when it's buggy and incomplete.

>>376625154
TRUMP WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

>>376625003
CEMU plays BOTW at 30FPS and 4K.

>>376625003
What the? "Vee" is uno person? Fires my synapses...

>>376625003
>Nintendo makes GOTYAY

Dark Souls 3 was made by FROM SOFTWARE.

>>376620834
do you mean there originally was a single chinese person and it copied itself 1,000,000,000 times?

>>376625374
>Thinks DS3 a game made in 2016 is GOTY for 2017

>>376625404
2 actually. Its called having sex. Something you have never done.

>>376621836
man he's just a guy who enjoys playing videogames you cunt

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>>376625197
I see, so there was no point in talking to you in the first place.

I provided you with pretty much all Midnight Animal threads since the weebshit happening, retard. They all have at least one post with some thoughts about the shift.

>>376625374
Even with the power of memes, you couldn't trick people into thinking DS3 was GOTY.

>>376625597
>BTFO your shitty sources
>"there was no point in talking to you in the first place"

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>>376625715
>heh I BTFO you :)

I don't know what's worse, if this guy ripping off Persona really hard or the other one that has made his personal crusade to defend him on Steam forums, even putting the game as his favorite.

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>2017 - year of too many big games to handle
>spend time making a big deal about a free game no one is gonna play

>>376625887
yes, i did. glad we're on the same page.

>>376623713
hol' up, the internet police is here!

Why does everyone care so much?

>>376623267
>Nintendo why you C&D this expression of fan love for your IP?
I don't remember this at all, what actually happened was defending Nintendo for C&Ding it while shitting on Metroidfags and FedForce.

>>376625918
I was gonna play it before the creator had his heart and brain stolen
Yakuza hotline Miami sounded fun

>>376624941
>he hotline miamis IRL

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Honestly as long as it doesn't have a fucking space station level where everything is resistant to half your party at any time, it'll be better than P5.

FUCK THIS F UCKING BIG BURGER SHIT, I DON"T CARE ABOUT THIS ANTAGONIST OR THIS SHITTY DESIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNED DUNGEON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>376618490
>There are unaware schmucks that think this is his own creation

>>376625575
>missing the point

>>376626129
>Hi, Elliot Rodger here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdlsH181c-o

Why are so many people in the Steam discussions rushing to defend this guy, even when people show he's blatantly plagiarizing something else.

>>376626186
That's pretty much the lowest point of the game, don't worry.

>>376626186
>not getting one of those nul phys nul gun personas from there and steamrolling the whole thing
lmao

>>376626186
>personababbys having trouble with their casual dating sim pandering to lonely waifufags

>>376626186
>Being this mad over the easiest dungeon
Oh I am laffin

>>376621212
He abused a poor autist

>>376618490
Is this the Nick "detergent and magma" Simmons of /v/?

>>376621212
He's one of the many "villain" characters who really did nothing wrong.

>>376623846
>new trend of e-begging

You realize that until Patreon the main way artists became popular was to get a sponsor that basically dumped money on them, right?

It's literally just crowd sourcing that exact concept.

>>376626352
Because people love brownie points.

>>376626352
Because the plagiarizing is harmless considering it's a free game. Not sure why /v/ has that reddit mob mentality going on.

>>376627065
Plagiarizing isn't harmless just 'cause the guy doesn't make money off it.

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>it's a free game!
>it's a literally who dev who cares?

The man is being rightly shit on for blatant tracing and theft. As someone that has had work stolen before I think a certain level of flak is deserved.

It'll of course get out of hand since threads are popping up here but the dev needs to just come clean. It'll quiet this noise and show he has some integrity left.

>>376627232
How is this harmful and to whom?

I'm interested in your thought process.

>>376626186
Am I missing something? Everything in there is weak to either bless, psychic, or guns. Did people have a problem with it?

>>376627412
>Guy makes [Blank] and charges 40 bucks for it
>Other guy makes [Other Blank], which includes assets from [Blank], and gives it away for free
>You can now get part of [Blank] for free, despite the creator intending for you to buy it for 40 bucks
That's a super simplified and extreme example, but it gets the point across.
If he gets permission to use the assets, then it's cool, obviously.

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>>376620362

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I'm more against it out of principle.
At least straight up admit you're ripping off everything from anime screenshots to character designs from it than locking down threads about it and going full damage mode. Ain't like a fangame where it's mostly for tribute.
Plus the situation itself is laughable, shitting on the guy for it is interesting because of how he's exploding over the steam shit and people are looking at what else did he copy.
And people are interested in a crash and burn or at least the game coming out and seeing if it's decent or a joke with the persona-lite shit.

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>Chinese
>people
pick one

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>>376618595
wow... how long until Atlus's legal department rapes them?

>>376628219
I'm thinking a cancellation is inevitable at this point. It's such a trainwreck.

So it's okay if I steal as long as the product is free and I'm not well-known? Alright.

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>>376618595
And he didn't even do a good job of it.

>>376629594
No you chucklefuck, you don't steal period.

>>376627714
So you're saying any fan game, fanart, sprite art, etc. Needs to be taken down?

yikes

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>>376626901

>>376629730
I'm saying the creators are well within their rights to do so, and they often do once they find out about it.

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>>376629730
>Fan game made with the same characters and setting.
>"original" game with trace assets from said game you are a fan of. Claiming it as "reference".

No, they are very different.

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Don't mind me, just "being inspired" by this artwork.

>>376629730
I'd say as long as the assets aren't ripped from the game, not really.
IP shit is more grey on this.

>>376629928
So what? Do you want devs and publishers to shut down all fan games, fan videos, and fanart using their assets or inspiration? If not what's the problem?

>>376630257
Except here he's stealing assets and attempting to pass them off as original content.

>>376625264
Of course he was. Its just sad that he backed down. We could have entered a better timeline.

>>376629730
Fan art usually consists of single pictures or a set at most. It would be categorized as pictures which isn't on the same ballpark as video game. This is a video game which copied its art from another video game that is for sale and is giving that assets away for free.

>>376630257
>assets
If they so please. They have that right.
>inspiration
They don't have that right.

In this case, the guy is directly using their assets, like actual artwork, and directly copying it and then altering it very slightly.

Also, fair use and all that.

>>376629730
Obviously not, he crossed the line when he traced art assets.

>>376630569
So you're saying stuff like A2MR were rightfully shutdown even moreso because they ripped assets from the source? And you want all fangames to follow suit?

>>376619190
>Miami 2 was pretty bad
KYS

>>376630656
Silly anon, he didn't trace, remember? He only "referenced" it.

>>376630818
The difference is that from the start AM2R was described as an unofficial remake of Metroid 2. The guy didn't try to say it was his original game that was just inspired by Metroid 2.

>>376618595
you can't be serious

>>376630818
What we "want" is completely irrelevant here.
I "want" games like AM2R to exist, but Nintendo had every right in the world to shut it down.

>>376630818
You're missing the point. A2MR was directly part of the IP metroid and no attempt was made to pass any of the content off as original. Midnight Animal, on the other hand, has tons of traced artwork that the dev is attempting to pass off as original and the original Persona artwork was merely a "reference".

>>376630924
>>376631025

>The difference is that from the start AM2R was described as an unofficial remake of Metroid 2
None that matters in regards to IP law. You learn this in the intro class.

>>376630970
Then let's hope Atlus isn't as trigger happy as Nintendo.

>>376619898
Source?

>A major influence in the game’s is the proliferation of east Asian cultural values and identities, since they’ve occupied much of the former western world physically, economically and culturally.
Wow, not only is the game a personal power fantasy for Spencer, but it's also a power fantasy for his Hapa asian superiority nonsense! When will it end?

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What even makes a person believe they can get away with something so blatant? Arrogance, laziness or a complete lack of respect for the people following his game?

>>376623713

wHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH HIS HAND, FUCK THE SPINAL SHIVERS.

>>376631238
You are still completely avoiding the point that he traced artwork and attempted to claim it as original.

>>376631515
I've heard he's Chinese which if true kinda makes since. It's a cultural difference. They believe it's OK to make "your version" of something you like.

>>376631505
https://spncryn.wordpress.com/2017/05/09/development-log-3-narrative-and-themes/
>This game isn't about Hotline Miami!
>Still follows Hotline Miami's canon
Fifty Blessings of Grey.

>>376631515
>What even makes a person believe they can get away with something so blatant? Arrogance, laziness or a complete lack of respect for the people following his game?

They get away with that shit all the time in China.

>>376631548
>Smear peanut butter over your hand
>Poke at it with pencil or some such thing
>Mess with people 'cause of their dumb "phobia"

>>376631630
I'm not avoiding anything Anon. He even admits himself he traced. Or did you not read the forums?

>>376631883
No, he claimed that the pictures were merely references and later claimed that he was redoing the art. Also notice how he did not acknowledge tracing the artwork until he was called out for it.

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>>376631515
It's the Chinese way.

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kek

>>376618595
>Atlus make their shitty game completely unstreamable, can't even take a screenshot for trophies
>meanwhile somebody actually plagiarized the whole game and they can't do shit about it

o i am laffin

>>376631505
If the Janitors lived and you can join a new 50 Blessings to destroy the Chinamen and reinstate American values I will forgive Spencer for all of his transgressions.

>>376631980
He already acknowledged now though. He even admits he traced a Bond picture when no one guessed correctly.

Either way I'm not defending him, just pointing out that starting a witchhunt is hypocritical if you have supported fan games like A2MR.

>>376619807
>caring about fps in a non-fighter/racing/shooter
>playing a fighter/racing/shooter on console
There is literally no need to be upset, Mr. Mustard.

>>376619828
Heh.

>>376632161
>Well, it wasn't traced, but as you can clearly tell, it's very literally based off of it, since I used it as a reference image.
Looks like you're the one who needs to read the forums.

I literally just emailed Atlus about this. You should, too. Taking inspiration is fine and I'd say more games should take from P5's UI design, but this is outright plagiarism.

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you know, you could take P5's stylish menu concept and make your own version with spin on it

do this dumbass at least fucking try?

>>376618490
Wow it is almost like all anime garbage looks the same. You weebs are pathetic

>>376621836
>Skullgirls
>Abe's Oddworld
I don't see anything wrong, aside from meme frog

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p-pls stop bullying me ;_;

>>376623863
Yusuke has the best cut-in

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>>376618595
this is fucking hillarious
It's like a bootleg persona.

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So does Atlus care enough to send C&D's at folks or do they only act if they try to make money off it? I wasn't really bothered by the tone change but the downright UI rip is shitty. Shame too since the demo was pretty good.

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>>376624743
Don't you mean a Metaverse joke?

>>376632803
It is bootleg persona.

>>376632403
I'm not sure what you're even arguing anymore, but as long as we agree nothing happening to him is a good thing for the fan communiry we're gucchi.

>>376632870
I am saying that he did not admit to tracing the 007 artwork and still claimed it to be original, only being referenced. Those were Spencer's own words. Keep up.

>Ripping off art from a shitty weeaboo game
Wow! it's fucking nothing.jpg

>>376619345
When copying "art" you call it forgery.

>>376632956
I used the wrong word then. I don't consider tracing any functionally different from directly lifting so you're just being pedantic arguing a tangent. I'll leave you by yourself for that I suppose.

Based Chinaman bootlegger does what Fatlus don't: put their japanese highschool friendship simulators on PC. Fatlus can't complain he's stealing their sales since they refuse to pull their heads out of Sony's ass and port to PC.

>>376632161
>just pointing out that starting a witchhunt is hypocritical if you have supported fan games like A2MR.
I disagree. I view it as different because one was open and upfront about the use of others work where as one tried to hide it and only admitted after being called out.

Wait, is this free?
Then really who cares right?

>>376633312
Let me try one final time to drill this into your skull. Spencer has traced multiple pieces of Persona artwork and put them into his game, pawned off as "original". He refuses to admit that these images were traced, but that he was "heavily inspired" and used them as "reference pictures". He used several of these traced images as part of his steam page without giving proper credit to the original artists This shows a clear disrespect to the artists who originally drew the images, and is plagiarism. This is not even putting into consideration the inclusion of gameplay elements literally called "personas" and "mementos". Thus, I literally could not give a single fuck if Atlus sends a C&D, as they will be fully justified to do so.

>>376633753
>It's free so that makes it okay

>>376633753
>copy somebody's work which they want people to pay money for
>release it for free
>"well i'm not making any money off of it, what's the big deal???"

>>376621212
He saved yusuke from the Japanese cold. That made him the hero of the story.

>>376633753
>really who cares
Atlus lawyers i assume.

>>376633618
That's a personal problem and contradictory to IP law do we'll stop here.

>>376633818
If you support Atlus C&D this then you also implicitly support the systematic shutdown of fanworks and give publishers other than Nintendo more righteous fuel. So while I do not feel strongly for the Chink one way or the other, I will state one last time your witch hunt is counter productive to vidya as a whole born out of nothing more than misplaced indignation.

Have a nice day, Mr. Shitposter.

>>376633753
Some people are being corporate shills. Others just think the creators attitude is shitty. It's mostly that he traced art, denied that he did until people posted tons of evidence then backtracked and admitted it.

I think some people are just finding it funny how much he's floundering around and makign excuses.

>>376634283
Good job not addressing ANY of my central points. I'm going to assume at this point you're Ash Davis.

>>376626186
>people actually having problems with p5 a game thats easier than p3 and p4 already

the space station was a shitty and boring dungeon but it deffinitly was not hard

>Being so bad at art you need to trace everything
ishidiggy

>>376634283
>That's a personal problem
Good thing you were talking about personal opinion
>and contradictory to IP law do we'll stop here.
So? Why does that matter? I never said it wasn't. Are you under the impression that legality is the same as ethics? The law is not evidence that something is right or wrong.

You said someone can't think what he's doing is wrong and be against it while for something like A2MR and I explained how I was. Pretty stupid of you to use a faggy come back like "sounds like a personal problem" when you asked about personal opinion. Maybe if you don't wanna hear about people's "personal problems" don't say stupid shit about what other people can and can't think.

Also really dude "sounds like a personal problem"? Did you just get out of highschool for the day or something? The moment you start using canned comebacks is the moment you just look like a retard incapable of forming a response. What are you gonna do next say "u mad" or "cool story bro"?

Wait how was it supposed to look like?

>>376626186
It's easy to spot the fags who think Physical and Gun would work on everything in the game. The last puzzle sucked shit, I'll give you that, but I liked the dungeon.

I enjoyed it more than that ancient tomb temple, god that was nauseous.

>>376633753
It would probably be hilarious to see what spencer would do if his project got C&D

>>376634283
You're mixing things up there retard-kun. A2MR was a fan game. Midnight whatever, isn't a Persona fan game.
See>>376623790
There's a fundamental difference.
>example a: fangame of a seemingly dead franchise
>example b: literally who chinese HM """hommage"" thats full of stolen and traced art
If you cannot see the difference and why /v/ has fun poking the faggot for it, then you're an idiot man. Just an idiot.

>>376635241
Probably blame his girlfriend.

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>>376632679
>presented multiple pieces of evidence that you traced artwork
>still dancing around the issue

At this point I feel no sympathy for this guy. Sure, the tidal wave of shit coming down might be a bit much but all he has to do is fess up to tracing. He's going to have to acknowledge the elephant in the room at some point if he wants people to stop ragging on him.

>>376632476
just did, lmao I wanna see what atlus will do to this fuck

There's a difference between a fan inspired game and a blatant steal.

>>376618595
I am generally not the kind of person to say "this is plariagism", but this is blatantly that.

>>376635903
at this point I'm conviced that father is spencer fuck himself or people close to him

>>376618595
incredible

>>376626919
He's upset because now they're asking him for the money instead of some rich art snob.

>>376636049
father is a faggot who stole builds of bloodlife, patriots, and midnight animal.
he's just trying to get good boy points but he can go fuck himself.

>>376632679
>stolen assets
>I need to be more original guys! I'm redesigning it right now!
>fucker adds a hat and changes hair color

>>376635903
>Pixel art
>Looks about as rough as tracing it in MS Paint

>>376635903
I can't wait for the fallout once/if Atlus is taking action.

>>376635973
Hes not stealing anything, how autistic do you have to be to throw a fit over a freeware indie game?

>>376636672
Are you just pretending to be retarded or do you literally not know how intellectual property works?
See >>376618595

>>376618595
Is the "Yu sitting on the train" part real?

>>376636672
>It's not asset-stealing if the game is free
yeah sure if you say so.

>>376636672
Have you even read the thread?
He's traced the characters, the whole schtick of mementos and personas and connections and social links, all denying it, retard.

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>>376618595
You'd think mixing Hotline Miami and Persona 5 would be really great and I love both of those things, but this looks fucking terrible.

This is fucking theft.

>>376618490
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/453800/discussions/0/1319962244123032311/
lol
How long until he goes full sjw and starts blaming alt-right for his game getting shit?

>>376636672
I can't understand how someone can be this dumb, are you blind or something?

>>376636912
>Posting stolen art

>>376618490
looks like he took from hotline miami too

>Making Hotline Miami is okay
>Making Hotline Persona is not okay

can somebody explain this to me, it just looks like he traced assets for a fangame

>>376637112
That;s the issue, he traced

>>376637112
>he got permission from the hotline miami dev to make that game
>he got no permission from atlus to trace their artwork and theme like persona mementos, etc

seems easy enough to understand

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can't wait to see this guy get buttfucked by Atlus and their legal team

>>376637268
He didn't get "Permission", he made the game and they liked it

>>376637314
Doesn't he have a patreon so he is actually getting money out of this too?

>>376637342
they liked it and gave him permission to "copy" their game

>>376637436
it's literally a mod for hotline miami
why are people so retarded and don't look up info about the game jesus christ

>>376637493
is it? sorry I got misinformed I just wanna add to your discussion

>>376637597
it's a free to play standalone mod for hotline miami

>>376621212
>be bretty gud artist
>but not making shekels
>start taking advantage of kids and stealing their art
>one of my pupils I manipulate has a kid
>she makes this bomb ass painting of herself with the stupid brat in it
>oh shit, she's flopping on the ground like a fish
>moneyeyesymbols
>oh well she died, nice painting though
>just gotta get rid of the kid in the picture and it's golden
>oh yeah and I'm gonna raise this kid and steal his work too

Literally did nothing wrong.

>>376632679
you need to STOP TRACING ART YOU DICKWIPE

Pages 2-9 all locked threads. Jesus Christ.

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Atlus USA hasn't responded yet.

The only hope we have is to contact our best man on the inside.

>>376638308
>tweeting at sonic instead of sega
are you retarded?

>>376638381
sonic'll reply though

>>376638381
Sonic will respond though

>>376629730
This is a literal Chinese knockoff.

Stop posting.

>copying 2 games at the same time
Is this 2017 already

>>376618490
So its a mod for Hotline Miami, right?
That interests me.
Also don't expect anything to come from exposing how the mod copied from Persona 5.
Atlus probably wont give a fuck about it.

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>meditate
can someone explain to me what meditation actually fucking is
am i meditating now because i'm sitting down?
i never really put any thought into it but i googled it yesterday and couldn't find a single clear description of what it actually fucking is, just hippie bullshit and empty phrases like 'being aware only of your own awareness'.

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Isnt that just the Ryzen logo with some blood on it?

>>376636846
>>376636864
>>376636864
Do you all throw autism tantrums over fangames too? What about youtube videos? Are people who make youtube videos with copyrighted material thieves too in your autistic minds?

>>376618490
>>376618595
Old news boyos

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>>376618490
This thread is bullshit. The differences between Midnight Animal and Persona 5 are innumerable:

> Midnight Animal is a top down / pixel based game with Visual Novel elements
> Persona 5 is 3D rendered with hand-drawn illustrations

> Midnight Animal is a story about love and forgetting
> Persona 5 is about high-school kids entering the psyche of adults and stealing their hearts and minds

> Midnight Animal incorperates personas, which are animal masks the player wears that represents aspects of the human psyche
> Persona incorperates persona, which are corporeal demons that represents aspects of the human psyche

> Midnight Animal takes place in New York
> Persona takes place in Japan

You kids are comparing Final Fantasy 3 to Pokemon GO, and basicaly it's kind of sad.

I expected better out of /v.

>>376619345
Underrated. You even got people legitimately complaining about how you stole this joke from another thread. Nice job.

>>376638868
read a fucking book

>>376639081
Do youtubers claim the games that they play as their own original works?
Idiot.

>>376639126
hi spencer

>>376626614
>not fusing an Arahabaki with Psio and Freila + nuke boost and a Decarabia with Resist Phys before even setting foot in his dungeon purely by coincidence

The only demon I needed to recruit was Girimehkala, bow I have a good up-to-date physical Persona to use my Charge card on. Dungeon is still conplete trash though.

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>>376639126

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>>376639031
Not the same logo, but they're similar.

>>376636810
Yes, even the windows and the seat are traced.

>>376618490
Persona 5 is fucking terrible weebshit, maybe this guy can actually make it decent.

who is this chink and did he exist at all before this fiasco

that chink is fucked for life financially for pulling this bullshit. Atlus is gonna take his arse to court and then ram it until it's broken.

>>376634529

It's not hard, it's just a resource drain. Around that point you're getting the -dyne skills and SP Patch 3 isn't really giving you infinite SP anymore. Add that to Phys not really helping too much in the dungeon and you're really struggling to not have to come back another day

The door puzzle where you jump through the airlocks is neat though

>>376637029
>Using stolen greentexts

>>376639520
Shut up you sellout chink

>>376632851
Underrated post.

>>376640029
>Doing the same
Sasuga Madarame.

>>376633753
>implying he's not gonna bait and switch people into donating cash to him via Steam Greenlight or Patreon

>>376640305
We are reaching levels of meta I thought were impossible.

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>>376618490
>when Pcbros are so thirsty for pleb ports they resort to emulation and straight up knockoffs

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Am i on to something?

>>376640597
Overlay the original Soejima image directly under the other anon. Increase transparency. Rotate 90 degrees for added effect.

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>>376640597
LINE IT UP
HE TRACED EVERYTHING
EVEN FUCKING THIS

>>376640747
I would but it's hard getting the size of the cover image right so i just gave up like a pussy, the shirt matches up though.

>>376619828
kek

>>376638868
Meditation is --usually-- the creation of a relaxed state through mental emptiness. The object of most individuals when meditating is to clear one's mind of thoughts and thus enter an elevated mental state. While there are many con artists and hucksters that promote a huge variety of endless idiocy, the practice of emptying the mind of stressors is a valid one.

The simplest of ways to do, or at least the way I read, is to simply sit in a way that is comfortable for you, close your eyes, and picture in your mind a small flame. Imagine yourself feeding the fire the things that are stressing you, and with each imagine the fire growing, until eventually all that remains is a large bright fire. It has always worked for me to get rid of a lot of extra stress, but your mileage may vary I suppose.

IT'S A FUCKING HOMAGE YOU STUPID FUCKS.

>>376640524
>literally "its ok when Sonybros do it!"
kys

>>376639520
It's a contender for GOTY and better than anything Western devs have shat out in the last half decade you cuck.

>>376631548
He's a fractured human

>>376621212
nice try spencer

>>376641097
It absolutely is not

>>376637982
You forgot:
>Later steals the same painting
>Keeps it at his "house" while making loads of copies and selling them on the black market to private collectors as if it were the original for big bucks.

But yeah, nothing,