What keeps the community so relatively small? Is it the client?

community is infested with furries, epic reddit upvoters, and the type of crowd that discord attracts

>>374368492
first both points
and the game is too quick to properly learn and rp your job until shit goes down

Very inaccessible
Shitty engine
Looks bad to any outsiders
Community is filled with elitists and powergamers
Steep initial learning curve

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>Urist McGreytide farts in your face

>difficult/cryptic install process to get byond, find a game, make a character and actually join one
>hard learning curve
>client can run terribly
>old graphics with events relying on text

ultimate casual filters

If only the community was slightly bigger, there might be a single good server to play on.

>>374368492
I literally thought this game wasn't real for my for my first few years on /v/, the stories just seemed too absurd, and I'd been playing dorf fort since I was 14.

>>374368492
It depends on the server, but it's mostly because it requires a lot of dedication to play. It takes a bit to learn all the ways you can interact with the environment, anything beyond Assistant is going to have people rely on you, and reacting to shit going down is going to result in your corpse being left in medbay for 15 minutes until you get robust. After you've learned all the basics, you need to get creative and get into the setting in order to have fun with your time on station, as just lubing up the hallways and hopping in your mech to run away as a scientist or any other "signature" shite is going to get stale as fuck real quick.

It does have a bit of a steep learning curve and the engine isn't that great, but the hardest thing is just that you need to stick with it, and the only people that are going to stick with it are those who liked it from the beginning of their first few rounds. It's a constant uphill situation that really challenges your dorf and RP autism. You either like that or you don't.

>>374368492
Are there even any good servers any more?

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>>374368492
its for sure the learning curve. i have a small group of friends that play it all the time, but it took us a while to learn enough to be efficient at it. I still dont play super important roles because I just dont feel like learning a whole new system.

I had a few friends that heard my stories of the game and wanted to play it, but quit after a week because "it was hard to play and i didnt understand it. I didnt do anything fun"

The lack of new age graphics is also a problem for the kinds of people that dont want to learn how to play the game. Not saying its not a valid argument, its just a correlation.

>>374372664
Depeneds on your definition of good. tgstation is the only bearable one I've found, and that is stretching the definition of bearable to the limit

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>>374369417
DON'T NUKE ME SYNDNICATT PLEASE

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>>374368492
A combination of all of them.

The inability of most modern gamers to use their imagination to see past the shitty graphics is the primary reason.

>>374368492
The client with all of it's lag and other bullshittery is the reason I don't play it anymore.

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>>374368492
>time to murder the whole crew

that's me.

Getting your objective item is generally too easy and it's more fun finding elaborate ways to murder the entire crew.

My favorite is replacing the oxygen in the cryotubes with plasma and replacing the cryoxadone with chloral. 99% of the time people don't even notice until it's too late.

Shoutouts to buying 20 space carp too, shoutouts to buying a hundred as nuke ops

>>374377515
SINGULARITY. LOOSE. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK.

>>374377364

I love you

Stealth traitors are so boring. I'll take traitors who drag the station to hell any day. Trying to fight against or evade the frantic, escalating chaos is the most fulfilling experience I have with SS13.

>>374368492
Maybe it's because you just posted a thread about the game without even saying what fucking game it is

>>374368492
The metaclubs and Discord

>>374378018
exactly

anyone can just break into a place and steal something

My favorite thing to do for assassinate objectives is to get sleeping carp and a minibomb or make a maxcap, run in, stun my target, drag them off into space with me while sec fires tazers to no avail, then detonate the bomb killing us both

>it's an HoS decides to loyalty implant everyone round

One time as a ling, I got caught and dragged off to Gulag so that I could be thrown into a lava flow.
What followed was a drawn out fight between me and the Warden, that ended with me crawling out of the lava and him dead on the floor once I punched my way through the airlock

>>374378139
Using just a bit of context I'd wager the game is space station 13 friendo.

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>Play Roboticist for the first time
>Have the wiki "how to" up next to the game window because I have no fucking clue what to do
>"Yo doc, make me a robot"
>Sure, why not
>Manage to do so without incident
>Happens like 5 other times as well so various cyborg types are running around
>Don't really do much other that putz around my lab learning things
>Shuttle gets called because it's Space Station 13 and everything went wrong
>First bot rolls in and says he'll escort me to the shuttle
>All the other bots roll in
>Bot entourage shoves people out of the way so I can just saunter over to the shuttle while tossing severed butts around

And so it became my favorite role.

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>>374379334
Old time borg player here. A good roboticist is always based and i'll always drop everything to help you.

>>374379334
I always long for the day that I play traitor Roboticist, so I can subtly fuck the station.

>>374368492
Because it is pure, undiluted autism. It's a bunch goons from the SA forums and old geezers from ytmnd. Unless you are as fucked in the head as they are, it's not really any fun to play

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>>374368492
The barrier to entry is too high for some people.

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>>374379790
>traitor robo
>emag the borgs to bend to my will
>tell them to stealthily chop off people's heads and bring them to me to make more borgs
>one borg brings me captain's body
>use captain's ID to steal flashes from security
>soon nearly the entire station has become my personal robotic army
>even the AI
>was gonna call the shuttle but ERTs arrive
>they succumb to my borg army and become borgs
>board shuttle with borg army
>deathsquad waiting at centcomm
>deathsquad gets demolished in the flood of angry borgs

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>>374379334
>play chaplain
>crusader armor and holy claymore
>fierce look but a gentle man
>actually perform funerals and confessions because there literally isnt anything for me to do at the time
>2 guys come around often, talk to them
>theyre pretty cool. They bring me bodies, I launch them into space at the speed of light
>suspicious amount of bodies are coming in and they seem REALLY happy to do it
>one of them tells me im like a real father to him, and he wants to be just like me
>I tell him that he doesnt have to be me to be perfect in the lords eyes
>"I know, but you are my god. I will come back and be exactly like you"
>oh... ok
>much later shit is going down, theres lings everywhere and tons of blood.
>cops are pissed ive been spacing bodies without documenting them to the police, no one knows who they were or how they died
>suddenly another man in crusade armor and a claymore busts in
>its my child
>he has literally become me
>even starts talking like me
>shits really weird
>asks to confess, because his journey had many troubles
>"father, will you forgive me? I have sinned"
>"I shall forgive you for whatever you have done, you have done much to help me"
>I dont think the lord will accept me"
>"why not, child?"
>"because I am not who I say I am"
>he steps out and takes off his clothes and transforms into me
>hes a ling
>hes always been a ling
>everyone that has been helping me have been lings
>theyve been bringing me the bodies of their prey and ive been disposing of them for them
>I helped the lings the entire time
>he tells me he wont kill me, but will protect me because I was so accepting of him when no one else was
>we both get on the shuttle side by side and crusade armor as we take off

You get what you put out in this game. If you actually try to get immersed in it, other people will too. Shits crazy.

>>374368492
>The raw autism?
that one

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>>374380601
fuck, this all sounds amazing

I've recently gotten into Dorf, how would you compare these two games difficulty/gameplay/learningcliff wise?

>>374380760
Some jobs are very easy and others are extremely complicated or just plain tedious

>>374380760
"In Dwarf Fortress, you use your autism to exert control. In SS13, autism exerts control over YOU"

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>>374368492
Just want to let all you autists know that one of my goals in life is to make a 100% true to the original 3d remake of this game.

Hopefully by 2020.....

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>be cyborg
>on asmov
>suddenly assistant runs up and tells you to open the armory door
What do?

>>374381115
enjoy ur curse, frogman

>>374381173
Suicide

>>374380760
Imagine playing a slightly less complicated Adventure mode, but everyone else is also another person playing the same game.

>>374369417
CALL THE SHUTTLE

>>374379334

>be roboticist
>tfw the malf AI has me killed like any other organic

At least try to make me betray humanity, then kill me once I've outlived my usefulness.

>>374380601
I've had something like this happen to me whenever I play Librarian. Motherfuckers will do everything in their power to have you lock yourself in your office and broadcast Woody's Got Wood to the whole station, once they realize that somebody had the balls to play Librarian. That said, your rounds will be 90% actually being the saddest piece of shit in space, 5% being the DM for the clown and mime's DnD game, 4% helping somebody find a book that they want, and 1% Woody's Got Wood

>>374381173
>go to sec
>remote open armory door
>don't open anything else
>leave, or stay to watch results of assistant saying "wait open sec too" "wait the other door too" in front of the warden, depending on mood

>>374381317
>First time playing malf AI
>Forgot to give my slave borg a lightsaber
>Get rekt when I tried to set off the bomb

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>>374368492
>Haven't played SS13 in a while
>"Hey, I think I'll play SS13 again."
>Do a couple rounds
>Can't into robust
>too stupid to understand the more technical jobs
>interest wanes again

>>374381173
Do it. It's Law 2. I'll probably tell the Warden though.

>>374381665
the less you know about how that game works the more fun it is

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>>374380760
Ive never played Dwarf Fortress, but Ive got some other stories to share

this one was a while ago so I cant remember all the details
>play as clown
>wizard round
>he gives us all spells and staffs
>I get a spell of recal
>"shit man thats gay as hell, what the fuck am I going to use this on?"
>idea comes to mind
>use it on my PDA
>I can now never lose my PDA
>the power is endless
>slipping people and letting them take my PDA
>just when they tell me "its gone clown, I spaced it" I recall it to my hand and throw it at them
>they think I have a backpack full of them
>they taze me and search me
>nothing
>process continues until everyone hates me
>someone runs up to me with a staff of polymorph
>like a suicide bomber, he runs up, screams 'FUCK YOU" and zaps me
>im now a fucking parrot
>fucking pissed because I cant recal my PDA or carry it or anything
>try it anyway
>recall still works, I just cant carry it]
>but I can drag it
>and fly over tables
>They have unintentionally made me stronger than ever
>fly around and trip EVERYONE. I am unstoppable
>finally get put down by a syndie borg
>man with staff of life finds me and revives me
>this continues until the round ends
>I am literally enemy #1, even higher than the wizard and the syndies

This one was more recent
>another wizard round
>working engineering so i dont go out much
>finally go out to fix something and theres rifles on the floor
>everywhere
>literally every tile has a bolt action rifle on it
>all empty
>suddenly a wizard teleports to me
>hes called the "2nd amendment wizard"
>shoots me with a rifle once
>throws the rifle away, spawns a new one, and shoots me once again
>this continues until I die
>ghost and follow him and watch him systematically assassinate every single crew member
>had one guy helping him
>it was the chef, and the wizard told him if he doesnt cook he wont die
>he is one of the last ones left
>in radio chat he says "FUCK YOU WIZARD IM COOKING"
(1)

>>374381317
>traitor anything threatens you to do something bad
>you do it
>get banned by admin for being non antag

woooooooooooooooooooow

context is he was the RD and telebaton'd me and put a traitor item in my hands so my prints were on it, then threatened to tell sec and have me arrested and/or killed unless I bring borgs for him to emag.

>>374381173
Do it. Leave once the door closes behind him since he only asked me to open it once and didn't say to stick around.

>>374381996
(2)
>wizard teleports behind in in true edgy anime character fashion.
>says "I told you no. You were my buddy, pal. But no more"
>executes him like the dog he is
>does this for the rest of the crew

those were some good rounds

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>>374368492
because the learning curve is so immense, most people don't know what they are doing, and never will.

personally i have played SS13 for over a decade, i helped develop the alpha many years ago. the game isn't what it used to be, there are too many roleplayers and servers choked back by retarded anti-grief rules when the game was never developed to be that way in the first place. the only way to make SS13 great again is to return it to a no-rules survival horror game like they do it on lifeweb.

>>374381383
Every time ive played barkeep while a librarian is on, they always end up spending most of the round in bar. Its hilariously accurate.

Though the times that the librarian does actually read lewd fanfics over radio are some of the best rounds.

>>374379334
>tossing severed butts around
lmao you play on goon where you get permabanned for saying nigger or faggot, one of the worst servers these days

>>374382307
Your only duty as a Librarian is to spam Woody's Got Wood at any opportunity

>>374381996
i don't believe you because anyone with 1/4 of a brain would just disarm spam the wizard, take one of his spawned guns, and shoot him while he is on the ground

>decide to play useless captain
>grab a camera and a couple of films rolls, then fire up my spess twitter
>spend entire round taking selfies with people and making inane tweets
>get no reactions
>except for one guy who PDAs me
>he straight up admits that he's a traitor, and he'll raise hell if I don't give him a couple of magboots
>pretty on the fence about this, but then he promises me a staged fight that I can photograph and post online
>we meet up in a remote corner in maint, and I give him the boots
>he dresses up in the red spacesuit and pulls out an esword
>we actually act it out and take photos of every stage of the fight, starting with me being surprised and on the ground, then miraculously turning the fight around and in the end standing victoriously over the traitor, having seized his sword
>before we leave, the traitor advises me to never trust anyone like that again
>get back to the office, upload the entire thing along with narration
>STILL no reactions

All of that was funny as hell. Even the fact that the HoS never asked about it.

>>374382952
nice

>>374382537
sure but heres the thing
>he only spawned 1 rifle at a time with 1 round
>as soon as he spawned one he would shoot it. all the rifles he threw away were empty
>people DID manage to disarm him, but since it was only 1 rifle at a time, they could only shoot him once, which then he would just teleport away
>this is also implying they even hit him with that one shot
>he was either super robust or scripting, he was fast with his shit
>he only killed people that were alone, the round lasted nearly 1:30 hours.
>you underestimate how dumb people actually are in space station. They can figure out the jobs, but when it comes to quick thinking and fumbling with the UI, they werent quick enough to run up to a wizard that caught them off guard, disarm them, pickup the rifle, then shoot him, and hit him with that single bullet.
>Keep in mind the wizard was also either super robust or scripting.

I cant force you to believe me, but it happened. dont believe if you want, I just like sharing my stories.

>>374381784
But it's like I just kind of do nothing for the entire round and then I get robusted anticlimactically and that's it. The most fun experience I had was probably starting my own (good) cult to go fight the evil cult with spears and bottles of holy water.

>>374383204
>he only spawned 1 rifle at a time with 1 round
Rifles do 120 brute and would be instant crit, the only rifle in the game fires .308 ammo unless you are on some sort of custom server
>this is also implying they even hit him with that one shot
shots can't miss in ss13 unless, again, it's a custom server, there is no dodge chance
>there were empty rifles all over the floor
so you're telling me there are weapons all over the floor that do 15 brute damage when thrown and nobody thought to throw them at the wizard to potentially KO him so they can burn his clothes and shave his beard?

again, i don't believe you. maybe you did this all on a private server with your friends and you were the wizard and they were all day 1 noobs or something, that would never happen otherwise.

>>374383946
>death squad
jesus how old is this image? i haven't seen a deathsquad in like 7 or 8 years

>>374383882
the wizard spell he's talking about instantly spawns the gun, fires, then drops the gun

>>374383882
>>374384024
what the fuck kind of servers you playin on gramps

>>374383946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LUiWgwYC_I

>play sec
>traitor blows up his target in broad daylight minutes into the round
>caught and sentenced to life in perma
>round goes on for over three hours
>regularly check up on the guy
>doesn't go braindead once
>asks for lots of different seeds, which he gets
>scientist stops by to install more botany machines for him
>turns perma into a greenhouse, complete with bees
>we get tons of food
>shuttle is called due to boredom
>release him and grant him his greentext because he's been growing plants all by himself for hours (also I didn't wanna find out how powerful his deathnettles were)

As someone who abandoned the game after five minutes of trying to enjoy it, Unity.

Unity has shit netcode, and is reason alone to not be used for any game with MP. SS13 used it since programming is hard, and now the game is spending 20 seconds waiting for the actions you took to actually happen. If I wanted to play a laggy and poorly programmed indie game, I'd make my own.

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>create le ebin maymays about how wacky the game is and how classes tend to just murder everything
>people will see this and try it out
>every server and round is complete nofun
>sneezing on another player as a non antag will result in a lifetime ban on most servers for assault
>security is made nearly pointless because half their job is done by the admins

Admin intervention should only occur when someone is an obvious troll, otherwise it just ruins the experience

>>374383882
>Custom server
yes its custom. it was on yogstation. its not OG Goon station or whatever.
>cant miss
yeah no shit but you can still side step it. If you run in circles its really easy
>no one picked up a weapon and threw it at him
sorry we arent all as robust as you george melons. Maybe youre just way too smart and need something else to play
>that would never happen
youre underestimating the playerbase. Once again, sorry I dont play on youre super smart OG players only server.
>all this autism
doesnt surprise me in the slightest

>>374384821
>you can

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>>374384821
>SS13
>Unity

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>>374381996
>2nd Amendment wizard

byond garbage

It's also just not a very good game. Reminds me of those Garrysmod rp servers where the admin and his buddies get really anal about you acting like a realistic scared peasant properly while they get to rob you with spawned in guns.

>>374384821
>Unity

This thing is made on a poorly programmed game engine from the 90s. It's made up of fifty layers of crap piled on top of each other.

>>374384150
lifeweb. but before that, every server i went to didnt use deathsquad or ninjas anymore.

>>374384505
>bees and deathnettles on the same server
why would you lie and make up space station 13 stories? bees are only on goon servers, deathnettles are only on tg servers.

>>374386690
/tg/ has bees
In fact, one round the botanists had mutant bees that deafened me with their stings.

>>374368492
The raw autism, the shitty admins, the overemphasis on RP, the map changes designed to make everything fun safe, sterile, inaccessible to everyone but traitors (does the singularity even exist anymore?). The lag that will never ever be fixed... The terrible rulesets found on most servers. The overemphasis on Realism, the developers that use SS13 to pad their resumes because they are failures at life otherwise... SS13 is a wonderful idea of a game surrounded by some of the worst gamers in all of existence.

>>374386869
sorry i havent played on /tg/ code in years because it's terrible, and now apparently they are thieves just stealing ideas from goon

goon might not be the best servers anymore, especially with their current staff, but that's still embarrassing to just steal a feature they have had for years

The learning curve is too steep and if you aren't ROBUST you'll get murdered and spaced pretty quickly, which gets old when you have to spend the next two hours as a ghost.
>tfw all I do as a miner is drag back a shitload of various ores, take a fire extinguisher, and then go exploring space

>>374387140
>not stealing access, building a private robotics lab with exofabs, destructive analyzer, etc. and building a maxed out combat mech in complete privacy, which will no doubt cause jealous people to attack you, at which point you can murder them

you're shit at miner

SS13 is bretty great but
>no friends to play with

>>374387292
Metagaming is a permaban
Keep the game to yourself

>>374387078
then quit acting like one of those old people that thinks nothing in any of the servers has changed
newsflash, as if people weren't already making their own versions of features for a long ass time now, gooncode got leaked in its entirety
it was supposed to be open source anyway so blow it out your ass

Reminder that /vg/station exists and is the official 4chan server. It's comprised of retard rejects from Hippiestation and idiots from here. Feel free to grief it up, you're another drop of piss in the ocean of urine.

game.ss13.moe

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It's literally all because of the shitty admins, that is the sole reason the game struggles.

I seriously don't understand what it is with the SS13 /vg/ community and it's complete lack of any competent admins that don't metagame and power trip, add that to an autistic legion that worships them hoping they'll be an admin someday so they can powertrip too and it multiplies.

I've managed to talk 5 friends into playing this game, 4 were banned immediately for making mistakes and completely lost their desire to play.

>>374387270
>not slaying the megafauna and getting kickass loot
>not begging science for new gear
>not unleashing singulo on either station or mine using bags of holding

>>374387504
>be a shit player and take the random stories seriously
>get banned because you tried to beat people up as a non antag

>>374368492
Oh yeah, you also can't stream it. A Twitch streamer called Sacriel long ago attempted this and got banned off every server he tried it on. He made his own but given the fickle nature of twitch viewers he had to abandon the game and find greener pastures.

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>>374387667
I actually still play you dumb nigger

>>374387581
you need to be a traitor to do the last one without getting banned, megafauna (i assume you mean the mining monsters) don't drop good loot unless you are on some gay custom server, and you skip the "begging science for gear" part by making your own private science lab and making it yourself

don't tell me you don't know how to wire up your own mainframe in space so you don't need a cold room

>>374387382
you got it autismo

>>374387504
they're too far up their own ass because of defenderfags and typical /vg/ cancer mentality

just look at how fast this guy >>374387667 showed up, I'd think it was a meme like what /a/ does if I wasn't there long enough to know better

>>374387491
>gooncode was supposed to be open source
i'm alphafag from >>374382207 and no it wasn't. it was private specifically to prevent things like that from happening.

the problem is that goons were ruined internally, when other coders and admins became corrupt and started adding stupid rules that nobody else agreed should have been there in the first place

>>374387762
I don't build. The only thing I do build are robots.

>>374387504
I remember the shitstorm that happened when they permabanned a guy for asking a "female" to suck his dick and banned him for "internet rape"

Not even lying

>spawn in as engie tator
>fuck year
>lay low for about ten minutes
>captain busts in and pressgangs me into CE since there wasn't one
>okay
>start getting materials
>newbie engineer appears while I'm making flammenwerfers
>admits he knows fuckall about engineering
>decide to become teacher before laying waste to everything
>show him how to hack doors and bolt them
>show him how to hack cameras and deactivate them
>show him how to make a flamethrower
>show him how to make stun gloves and cable cuffs
>show him how to boost lord singuloth's power
>stun+cuff him, tie him to a chair in the middle of bolted engie
>equip flamethrower
>"why?"
>"because"
>torch him
>overload lord singuloth
>jet around the station and set a singulo beacon by the solars
>laugh as it tears the station in half
>lord singuloth eats me when I try to hijack the shuttle

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>>374368492
>What keeps the community so relatively small?
It's the corrupt staff on every server

Sure it always starts out nice and the way you want it, but over time admins leave and those who stay realize they have supreme power over everyone else, leading to them picking favorites and getting too strict with the rules.

Anyone who isn't an admin's friend and doesn't treat the game like a chore will eventually be banned.
And everyone who treats the game like a chore in order to not get banned by the admins will eventually quit.

The SS13 communities aren't small by choice

>>374388434
don't forget that in the case of goon, the staff literally removes entire features that people are having too much fun with, i could write hundreds of lines of things goons have removed over the years but i'll just give a couple examples.

>zombie serum was removed because traitors, aka people who don't have to obey the rules, were using it too much
>vampire and werewolf serum recipes were changed long before goon code leaked because people actually figured them out and used them, so what is the point of adding them in the first place
>blade runner replicants were removed because people liked playing them more than standard cyborgs

the M.O. for goon coders seems to be "if it's fun and is used frequently, remove it. if it's "abused" too much (i.e people having fun with it), remove it

the community is small because the game is shitty
the stories that pop up that draw new players are all embellished to make ss13 seem like more fun than it really is
there's this vaguely elitist attitude that goes along with being an ss13 player, where they revel in its idiosyncrasies while simultaneously downplaying them, because as it turns out, everything fun about the game is also against the rules

>>374388659
Is goon the station that gives goals to non-tatortot roles? I really like that feature.

I'm trying to make an account so I can play, but byond seems to think i'm behind a proxy. How do I get around this?

Reminder that /vg/station sucks and normiestation is much better

>>374389084
Get a proxy.

>>374388961
yeah, however you can get banned for following those too. one of the goals is something like "annoy someone enough to cause them to murder you" and they will ban you for "ban-baiting" because you are trying to get someone else to break the rules when not a traitor. both admins and coders on that server are fucked these days.

>>374389286
Is that seriously a goal for a non-tator? who looked at that and said "looks good man"

It uses BYOND shit client
Normalfags can't into good roleplay
Isn't as fast paced or approachable as something like TTT in Gmod or Salem/Mafia.
Dominated by fetish servers and power tripping admins

Over moderation, the game has every possible counter to a griefing cunt there is, a clone bay for reviving someone, a medbay for healing them, security for dealing with them.

The game would be amazing if security was actually security and not power-game to find the antag and arrest people for slipping you.

The game has everything it needs to moderate itself, yet the second you get into a fight and beat the fuck out of someone, how does the round go?

Instead of being arrested by security and having a trial (which is VERY rare to actually see a trial ever) you're instead dealing with admins where you explain yourself IC using OOC which completely detracts from the game.

This is a game that would benefit from relaxed moderation, whitelist security roles, make them actually something desirable and not the easiest job to get into just to power-game.

I don't know where, but someone, somewhere down the line lost sight of what this game was really suppose to be, and just fucking saturated it with over moderation.

The funnest rounds I ever have are during the night when admins are asleep and some non-antag griefer gets caught and we actually have a trial, sometimes the griefer gets sentenced to death, sometimes he gets released, and often times when one "griefer" gets released he SHOCKINGLY goes back to playing the round normally or handles things in a much more enjoyable IC manner.

Eventually the real griefers that want nothing more than a shit round will weed themselves out and will receive the bans they justly deserve, but right now banning everybody for a pen drop is ridiculous, but it will never change, literally never because the server owner and admins will not give up their power.

It's sad

>>374389523
>who looked at that and said "looks good man"
the same idiots who run the server these days. goon was best from 2007-2010. there's another objective that is something like "steal as many high access ID's as possible" which is another thing that leads people to kill you, since if you get HoP or Captain, then you have access to the ID computer, which is a capital crime punishable by death if you make yourself all access while being something shitty like an assistant. again, the admins will ban you if you do that one too.

>>374387667
>what is security
Another anon in the thread mentioned that security is usually a redundant role since admins intervene in almost everything (even some traitor stuff).

Rather than having the admins make stuff sterile, have security do their jobs, if they're the ones who are being violent then either have AI/Borgs intervene or then you might actually have a situation where an admin might be required.

>>374389802
Man I really like some of Goon's stuff though, the traits are coolio but the map they play on is bloated in my opinion.
>tfw never finding that one perfect server with a good map,code and customization

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>>374389582
This, it's like walking on fucking eggshells every time you want to do something.

>Spawn as assistant
>Run to HoP to get assigned a job
>Tell them to just make something up
>Get Professional Swimmer or something stupid
>ID also has full access to everything or at least random access across the station

I spent a good deal of time as an assistant due to this shit. Like an ID lottery.


Also had fun on Goonstation fucking with the PDAs. If you got 2 PDAs and did something I can't remember you could send mass PDA messages to every PDA on the station and piss off a load of people.

>>374390223
Playing sec for the very first time made me realize what pure malice is, like 80% of the station wants you to fall down so they can rob your ass.

I liked watching Plumphelmetpunk play.

>>374368492
I feel SS13 could be Made Great Again™ if there was more a focus on stuff actually happening instead of four+ hour snoozer rounds. The only fun modes anymore are Nuke, Cult and rarely Malf/Blob since there's a threat that immediately affects everyone. Every other round you do your jobs startup and then go around stealing shit or ERPing at the bar until a traitor blows up a bomb or a changeling eats the Captain and forces a shuttle call. Self-antagging is a symptom of antagging being the only fun thing to do in the game since nobody ever wants to pull a fun RP gimmick and there's no incentive for most antags to do anything besides stealth assassinate a couple of dudes and then going AFK until the shuttle's called.

>>374389267
shit don't work friendo. probably not gonna bother any more

>>374379334
>roboticist
>people saying AI is malf
>don't notice anything
>make a bunch of new borgs
>turns out AI is malf
>tells me that they'll spare me for helping them achieve god status
k-kay.

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I've played it for a while, but I only go on Colonial Marines. If you're actually into the space marine feel it can be pretty fun. There are some cool community players and the staff are bro-tier on the whole so long as you don't start shit.

But god deliver me from the autists who meme relentlessly. You can tell they're like 12 and probably haven't even seen Aliens.

>>374392903
What is with the community in these servers and their unending memes?

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>>374393009
Fuckin beats the hell out of me. You'd think that the learning curve would drive away the people who buy into these reddit-tier memes but there's an endless stream of them. Though I suppose we're all autists when we take the time to be 2d spessmen.

I think some of my favorite experiences always will be CM Pre-alpha simply because the only people who showed up were people who wanted the whole experience.

So the vibes I get from this are that it's basically like TTT nowadays, overrun with overly sensitive idiots that'll cry and call for you to explain yourself to their friends on the administrators for trying to have the slightest bit of fun outside of powergaming? Is it too late for a new guy to get in on the fun without being banned or forced into the safespace of goons?

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>>374387762
>Megafauna drop shit loot.
Nigger you can get one of the best armor peices in the game which makes you immune to ash storms. The voice of god which can liteeally tell people to move or stop at will. Then theres the necropolis chest they drop which can include stupidly powerful artifacts of death. Or crystals that lightgeists which can heal the entire crew of brute and burn with ease.

>>374393448
Different servers have different levels of rules. If someone wants to just rp being a scientist or some shit go to some server where killing everyone is okay.

I mean I don't see why you'd do that seeing as combat in SS13 is shit-tier and it's only good for the arpee.

>>374368492
The only people who pull off high-population servers are either cliquey faggots or turn into cliquey faggots, they're autistic nofriendz so when people start latching onto them and pretending to like them because they're admins, they form their little circlejerks that are difficult to get into if you don't know someone or you're not comfortable kissing ass

Shitty engine and honestly probably one of the highest learning curves of all games.
>get robusted by people who know of various features/tricks by reading the code or playing long enough to see the features get introduced, dropped then reintroduced
The fact that the game is constantly being updated based on the whims of neckbeards means there's a unintentional revolving meta of finding and exploiting features put into the game

>>374393498
Why would you play on TG?

>>374369417
H-HONK

>>374394289
Because Hippie is shit

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>>374393243
Speaking of colonial marines an admin got a bit pissy at me recently for heading outside of the fob as a researcher to grow healing plants. I tried to esacpe but the marines were being rushed down by ravagers. And a runnner caught me out and drug me away. The immerison in that game is grand despite doing pain rp for a solid 30 minutes because some cunt shot me in the back with a shotgun broke my bones and moced me into pain crit. Then the doctors ignore my cry for fucking pain killers.

Also here have some cute.

>>374393863
I'm really just interested in a server where people only complain if somebody's just going murderhobo round after round, instead of just general outcry over any kill even if you're a traitor like in TTT

I'm not sure how big this game's community is but there's no good TTT servers left at all despite how big its playerbase is

>>374394289
Literally lavaland is my only reason.
>>374394406
Never played on hippe so I wouldn't know.

>>374390223
Security has gotta be the worse role to play as imo. Everything you do could be better done just playing as a vigilante and most of your weapons are quickly outclassed by research or gun cargo. To top it off everyone hates you and you'll costantly get players adminhelping you constantly.

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>>374394556
>just want to mine some ores
>mining is always full due to memers wanting to go monster huntan again
>autism science instead
>never get ores because of fauna memers

DAY OF THE PICK MOTHER FUCKING WHEN?

>>374387762
I forget do admin get notifications for things like cutting wires and disassembling mainframes? You can unleash the sing with a simple wire snip or putting a signal transponder on the mainframe

>>374368492
Is there a way to start playing now?
Stories made me intrested
More importantly is it worth it?

>>374395539
>stories made me interested
Enjoy getting banned or toolboxes in the face trying to repeat those greentexts. Most of time you'll be suffocating to death or being bludgeoned to death

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>>374395232
>Implying I don't get at least 10000k points worth in ore before even considering monsta huntin.
But your dedication to science is important.

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>bro and I fucking around as usual
>bro is clown and I'm a mime
>take over the theater thinking we'll do stupid plays and shit
>bro finds a bomb ass gilded robe shit
>"Emperor Honkington!" I yelled
>We then decide to start a revolt/cult/thing
>I start "recruiting" people by waving at them trying to get them to follow me
>Emperor Honkington would then greet them as they entered the theater telling them about his vision for a "brighter tomorrow"
>Recruit about a quarter of the server (about 10 people)
>"Phase two begins my brother" Emperor Honkington whispered to me
>Pic related
>The revolt begins
>"Those who join us will proper, while those who don't well..."
>I begin to spray the FUCK out of shitcuirty making them pass out
>inject them with monkey DNA
>For some reason they decide to "join us"
>Now have a monkey army and 10 people
>Ultimately kill the captain and take over the station
>"Time for my greatest joke"
>Arms the nuke
>"WE MUST CLEANSE OURSELVES FOR OUR FINAL MISSION"
>Nuke goes off
>"traitors have failed"
Literally was the greatest game ever and I didn't even say ANYTHING during the entire game.

>>374393498
>playing /tg/
hahahahaha i just feel sorry for you

>>374395382
they get notifications for basically everything, if anyone even picks up a tank transfer valve, with no explosive components attached, they get notified of the ckey of who did it and other information

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>>374397713
Jesus Christ what kind of hugbox has this game become?

>>374395685
Not the stories to be exact, the atmosphere i got from them. Sounds like an interesting game. Need some shit to kill time, and hopefully, have some fun

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>>374397938
to be quite honest it's 4chan's fault. the forced roleplaying rules and other "anti-grief" shit happened after the SS13 code became open source (OpenSS13) and people from 4chan wanted to turn it into a forced roleplaying game instead of the survival horror game goons had, and that is why /tg/ and goon are two separate codebases.

the worst part is goon eventually agreed with them and added the same roleplaying faggotry to their own rulesets, which probably would never have happened if the original coders from 4chan never suggested it in the first place.

i miss my old game, i don't like this new game they have transformed it into

>Back when hippystation had supermatter
>I had perfected my secret technique of blowing up the entierity of engineering, fucking the power and sending the round into chaos
>it only took 5-10 mins and some simple wire cuts and turning the emitters the wrong way and blowing up the computer
>everyone just fucked off from engineering at round start so i was free to do this everytime
>The one time i got caught i played it off as being new and got off scott free
>50% of the time the AI gets declared rogue due to me cutting the ability of the AI being able to flush it

who here /D E V I L I S H/

>>374398570
>>The one time i got caught
ex-hippie admin here, admins got multiple notifications every time you did that, they knew every single time. when you pretended to be new, they should have banned you, but whoever saw you decided to let you go.

not clever, you didn't sneak past anything, you just got a nice admin

>>374386690

/vg/ has both.

>>374397938
>>374398220
To be fair the singularity getting released every round gets fucking old.

>See this thread
>Kinda want to play again
>Remember how shit the community on /vg/ has become
>Lose all desire to play
I remember when this used to be fun has it got improved again yet?

>>374398570
>Hookup distro to thermal plate in space
>Get distro to near 0 kevin
>reduce pressure in part of the stations
>vents start pumping out frozen air, reducing the pressure further
Only worked once but freezing the whole station was fun

>>374399035
>something that spices up the round gets old
i hope you realize you are part of the problem

>>374399035
There's a reasonable limit to how much fucking big brother you should put in.

>>374399012
I did it literally 9 times your admins have brain damage and i was only caught ingame by the chief engi

>>374399145
>your admins have brain damage
well no shit, you said it was hippie. they actually deadminned me for punishing multikeyers

I don't feel like learning the meta across several codebases while fighting through lag, ERPers, furries, and general metagaming gays.

>>374399035
Singulo usually just fucks off 75% of the time unless tater put a beacon up. Usually just eats engineering and easily countered by using solars instead

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>>374387827
>be a shitter
>get banned
>"M-MUH SEC"
Faggot. Every time there's this guy who whines about Security robusting his griefing ass and when he gets banned for nonantag shenanigans it's all an epic conspiracy to ban le randumb fun powergame autist. Stay contained.

>>374399097
>Ensuring power is off every single round
>fun

Yeah ok guy. There's people fucking with engineering and there's making it so half the departments get instantly destroyed.

I love a good singulo release but it's the most uninspired way to just ruin the round for more than half the people if it happens every time.

>>374399281
>several codebases
there are basically only 3, everything else is shit tier and unremarkable and you should never ever ever go there (bay, yog, colonial marines being the biggest offenders)

there's the /tg/ based stuff (most servers), goon stuff (obviously only goon servers), and lifeweb (if you don't know how to access lifeweb, figure it out newfag)

It needs to stay small. Is SS13 was popular it would become so shitty.

>>374399415
>singularity being released means there is no power
you have never played this game more than 5 minutes, have you? you're just parroting shit from greentexts. you also seem to think anyone cares about "ruining the round for others" in a space survival horror game

>>374399587
When was it a survival horror? My understanding was it's roots being some autismos abandoned atmospheric simulator

>>374399510

I remember when that SS13 review by that semi-popular youtuber came out the top server had like 200 people on it

I remember when they added Freon to /tg/
I fucking hated it

>>374399690
started as an atmos simulator, goons made it a survival horror game, then a bunch of autistic weirdos decided the game should be about roleplaying a space job for 8 hours straight with nothing interesting going on, but only spergoids play on those servers. to everyone else it's survival horror.

So is there ANY server that isn't shit?

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>>374399587
I've played station engineer for over two years. It's just a tad hard to get a consistent source of power when a giant ball of death destroys the engineering compartment.

If it makes you feel better I'm clapping for your attempt.

>inb4 muh solars

As if assholes don't run off with the hardsuits once the game begins.

>>374382024
This is really my big problem with the really stringent rules/over-involved admins that plague so many servers. It really stifles truly great roleplay experiences because of really nitpicky technicalities and us vs them (in terms of antag vs crew) mentalities

>mfw all these mad griffins

Seriously anon, anyone with even a slight bit of know-how could make the game unplayable for everyone else. The light rp, no grief servers are for the best.

>>374399882
>not using one of the like 6 different generators from science
>not knowing you can bomb the singularity to destroy it
you're a shitty fucking engineer then

>>374399861
mine

>>374400074
>no grief
Literally what ruined the game and is the reason why lifeweb has had huge amounts of players for over 5 years

>>374400195
Lifeweb is autistic on a whole new spectrum

>>374400195
Lifeweb is more fun because you have to be more creative instead of LE XD SINGULARITY XDDDD SO ORIGINAL ANYONE WHO MAKES FUN OF ME FOR DOING THIS EVERY ROUND IS JUST A CAREBEAR.

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>>374400106
Heh maybe buckeroo, but at least it doesn't take being an asshole to people in a 2d space game to have fun.

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>>374400074
Easiest spot the /vg/ player ever

>EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T SUCK ADMIN COCK IS A GRIFFER
>ALL THESE MAD GRIFFERS

The griffers are their form of the big evil bogeyman and anyone that doesn't agree with them are griefers that got banned

>>374400195
Has lifeweb really been around that long already? Didn't they add rules n' such after people bitched enough about idiots running around screaming LOL NO RULES and generally being stupid?

>>374368492
I wanted to get into it but its so fucking obtuse, fuck that

SS13 has the best slipping mechanics ever

>>374399771
Survival horror makes it sound like from the get go you should do shit like steal the clowns PDA at roundsart and stock up on gear before shit hits the fan. Your supposed to pretend to be spess workers before stuff goes nuclear

>>374400547
>lifeweb
>rules
lol

>>374400586

I don't understand this. The only hard part about understanding SS13 is the hand system.

>you have two hands
>you select between the two hands to use
>click on stuff to use the selected hand/object in hand on that stuff

That is the entire learning curve. When you are past that, you have the fundamentals of the whole game down. The rest is just following simplistic lists.

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>>374400425
>detonating the bomb in the fortress is somehow more creative
or maybe you've never played lifeweb before because you can't figure out how to connect to it and you're just making shit up.

>>374399592
Space Hippie?

>>374400826
I went ahead and checked with someone who literally plays it everyfuckingtime its up
You're an idiot and they added rules and still have them to this day.

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>>374400496
Mad cuz bad at a 14 year old game

>>374400874
>Obtuse inventory system
>Agressive, passive, stance
>Grappling and dragging
Your crazy man none of that's intuitive. I remember my first game I tried following the wiki and suffocated because I couldn't get my internals to work right

>>374401010
If by 14 year old you actually mean now primarily played by 14 year olds.

>>374400795
>Survival horror makes it sound like from the get go you should do shit like steal the clowns PDA at roundsart and stock up on gear before shit hits the fan
yes, that's exactly what you do.
>Your supposed to pretend to be spess workers before stuff goes nuclear
first of all, it's "you're". second of all, that's only on shitty autistic forced roleplay servers like baystation, yogstation, and colonial autism, which is why you should never ever play on any of those servers

>>374400938
you know for a fact that that's not the only thing that happens in lifeweb dumbfuck

>>374401074
It's not that hard though. The UI and intents are dated, sure, but it's the easiest thing to get a grasp of as a new player.

>>374401010
>ligger bartender
Wish I had a picture of my character on this machine

>>374400974
okay, tell me these supposed "rules" so i can screenshot your post and have a laugh with Randy about it

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>>374401010
Could be worse, could be mad AT said 14 year old game.

I'm just happy because I know you feel disenfranchised from a game that makes me happy and that just really does things for me.

>>374401114
Alright you double nigger. Give me a server that does this well and I'll see how it is. I suspect a server like that would instantly turn into a shitter fest but I'll give it a shot

>>374401224
but that is a bird guy? I forget what they're called

>>374384821
lol

SS13 would be so much better if it was in Unity

You have no idea how bad the real engine is

Man you are dumb

>>374401273
lifeweb

>>374401074

Every single thing you just listed, aside from dragging, is part of the hands system and they are obvious to figure out when you understand the hands themselves. If you know how hands work, you know how modifiers on the hands will work. If you know how hands work, you will soon realize that grappling is just applying the hands system to creatures. If you know the hands system, you know that you interact with your backpack with whatever is in your hand.

>>374401251
Fuck off leo

>>374401273
literally lifeweb. people don't instantly kill eachother most rounds because there's actually shit to do

>>374397346
Lavaland was literally the only good thing about TG. That and chaplain.

>>374401251
If you actually fucking know randy go fucking ask him you chuckle fuck. Also tell him to share is fucking code and assests

>>374387950
If you don't permaban the ERPers immediately you become an ERP server. It's a fact.

It's the same kinds of players attracted by secondlife and open world RPGs.

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Honestly I just spectate SS13 games. I haven't actually played it in years.

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>>374401434
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>>374401532

>>374368492
old client, obtuse control system, feature creep everywhere, wildly varying experience depending on what server you're on, reliant of people being willing to RP, admins are needed, and bad grafix all keep the normies unaware of SS13.

>>374401074
>>Agressive, passive, stance
The intent system is basically the same as high profile / low profile actions from the original assassins creed, and that was so intuitive they kept the system for the whole series

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>>374368492

>play shitty byond games back in 2000
>Find out about ss13 due to a thread on /v/, rediscover byond
>try out public serbias, it's shit, quit the game
>another /v/ thread pop up not too long after, talks about /vg/ and /tg/
>Have the choice between /tg/ and /vg/
>/tg/ at the time allowed you to erp, but medbay had that shitty ass castle doctrine rule so doctors can kill your ass if you try to heal yourself
>/vg/ made sure your ass was safe in medbay, plus you had jukebox
>stick with /vg/
>keep getting shitty randomnames, become a snowflake
>after a good while of playing, get antag 24/7
>It's fun as fuck
>luck runs out, try to be more social with people to make shit interesting
>turns out most people who play thinks in-game relationship is the same as real-life relationship, especially if they erp
>get bored of spess eventually, play lifeweb, also get bored
>play once in a while, but barely ever get antagonist anymore
>mfw being antagonist is what i love the most about spessmen due to being able to fuck with people

I'm surprised at the amount of faggotry that can rise from this game. It's just a vidya that allows you to do various shit in space, but most people wants to try and make it safer, and make more rules so they don't get fucked over with just for the sole purpose of valid hunting or having a good life without worrying a antagonist won't fuck their shit up. Spess was always meant to make shit hit the fan.

I just want to murder and fuck around with people. Lifeweb is fun on that, but feels way too slow and not as satisfying as what you can do in spess. The thing i loved the most was deceiving people into thinking i was alright or that i wasn't the person doing the bad deeds and they would fall for it. Bonus point if i am a Changeling/Geneticist and i take on the form of someone else

Snowflakes were a mistake

>>374401418
>>374401345
I'm too normie to find its IP. The url just redirects to a pic of me playing EU3

>playing on /tg/ station server
>decide to play Chaplain
>traitor HoP decides to make the AI lawless for shits and giggles, as well as the cyborgs
>pick up a guitar and become friends with the local cyborg, calling it my loyal steed
>begin playing the guitar while riding around on the cyborg
>serenade the AI, become best friends with him
>the Warden is being a massive douchecunt, so we decide to prank him
>we start simple- we break into the armory, steal some handcuffs, and a taser
>part one is complete
>we confront the warden
>I taze him, and cuff him, being ten times more robust than that asshole while in the middle of sec with my cyborg companion while playing the Yoshi's Island athletic theme on my guitar, faster and faster just to piss him off
>the warden is screaming and crying that he's dying when he hasn't been physically harmed beyond being tased
>we drag him around while playing the music faster and faster, before I dump him in disposals
>me and the cyborg fetch a pie
>we do a quick drive-by pie to the face while going by cargo
>music intensifies
>never once let go of my guitar, music is jangling throughout the whole thing
>kidnap the warden after he and the captain attack me and my cyborg stallion
>zap him, cuff him again, and drag him off
>tie him to a chair at the bar, grab the beer cabinet from back room of the bar
>strip off all of the warden's expensive gear, shove it in the beer locker, then space it using my mass driver
>proceed to announce to the greytide that the warden has been cuffed to a chair, and while borgbro is flashing him, we all need to forcefeed him as much beer as possible
>admin tells me not to torment this poor soul the entire round
>I merely laugh
>we let Sec rescue the guy
>the warden immediately tries to stage a raid on the back room of the bar where he last saw his stuff (we had already spaced them, so it was fruitless)
Cont...

Am I the only one who kind of likes the normal roleplay of being a spessman before shit hits the fan?

>Be Quartermaster
>No HoP so decide to fill the shoes and allocate access.
>Captain is MIA so I am promoted to Captain as the second in command.
>Keep in mind the highest rank I had ever played before today was the QM.
>Trying to figure out whats going on, people are going missing, and find signs of cultists.
>Put on the power armor and go with security to investigate a disturbance in the library
>Cultists are inside summoning something rediculous and are really mutated.
>They won't surrender so we go in to take them down
>Mutants tear us apart and collect my limbless corpse
>Placed into the circle and become the dire mutant captain demon.

Anyone ever get into that fantasy version of this game?

Shall I create a /v/ server?

>>374402071
>the warden is screaming to blow the borg as we literally dismantle his entire office in front of his eyes, the other sec merely laughing as we literally take apart EVERY SINGLE thing in his office using tools and tossing it in the disposals, even the fucking floor tiles
>afterwards we dismantle the borg-blowing machine so they cannot eliminate my noble stallion
>we trap the warden in the Head of Medical's office for laffs after he tries to stop us, once again stripping him nude
>finally, we go through engineering, only to see the Captain in front of a freshly installed borg-blowing machine
>my borg explodes, my best friend, my comrade collapsing
>i cry, the captain's smug expression as he holds me at gun-point
>BWEEP, BWEEP, BWWEP...
>The admins allowed a dead player to come back
>one single nuke-op
>right before the captain can kill me, the entire station is bathed in nuclear fire and we all die
man this game is fucking great

>>374402274

Make sure to have some jukebox, and I'm in

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>>374401636
I can't be bothered to get anything 'official' for you as this guys word is good enough for me. If you need more go find it.

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>Get changeling
>Decide to try and get people killed by mimicking their voices and reading WGW over the radio
>Admin kills me
>Threatens to ban me

>>374402237
I like doing my job as long as shit does actually hit the fan. Playing bartender is comfy this way since sometimes the station will be falling apart around you but the bar remains intact and civil.

>>374402298
For reference, read this while this is playing in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HN5MjZPfbI

>>374402439
/vg/ right?

>>374402531
/tg/

>>374402439
Isn't stealth and subterfuge supposed to be ling? What was wrong with you spamming porn in someone else's voice

Is it really this black and white?
>No rules turns into deathmatch that gets old quick
>Servers with rules turn into ERP furfag metaclubs

Is there any gray area?

>>374375708
>filename
Rimanah pls

>>374402616
Admin didn't like it

>>374402634
It requires someone like me with good judgment, high IQ, and vigilance to rule the server with an iron fist. The fact is, being a good admin requires a lot of scarce highly valuable skills.

>>374402765
Admin's a faggot, that was a good plan

>>374402784
>Having any of this as a random fat loser who spends all of their free time in SS13

>>374402879
Exactly, the talent pool for good admins is incredibly low. There are probably only twenty or so suitable people in existence. I was one of them, maybe one day I'll start my own server.

>>374402634

It's seems so, /vg/ is slowly becoming TG thanks to all the hippy/TG refugees, doesn't help most of the community are autists waifu chasers that think they can have a real relationship in a spessmen game

anyone remember chase villandi?

IS lifeweb still alive? I have some great memories from playing IT. Like throwing hobos on train tracks, raping uncoscious prostitutes that turned out to be succubus. Seducing guards As noble's daughter And having them executed. Sliting people's throats in public showers And showing turds in their mouths As they choke to death.

>>374403156
I can only hope that what you're saying is true, yet I know it's not. I was around when /vg/ started up and it did not used to be this way, run by tyrants.

>>374403223

yeah, you can play it every weekends. They even have a official Discord that will tell you when rounds are up

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>>374402634
a good admin is the difference between ss13 being your favourite game or it being a tedious autism simulator

>go on bay or whatever the rule-heavy on is
>slip someone as a clown and try to draw on their face, accidentally stab them in the eye
>BUH-BWOINK'D* by the admins in nanoseconds

>play on whatever the /vg/ server was called a couple years back
>was about to go to bed anyways and shouldnt have entered the round, go to steal the HoS' ID as he checks in at the HoP's desk so he can shoot me on site and my braindead body wont be a nuisance during the round
>somehow actually get away
>suddenly I get given antag objectives
>admin also gives me the additional objective of stealing every ID of every personnel on the station before escaping

and then I stayed up until 4 in the morning during exam week greasing the halls and stealing ID and running from Sec, eventually ending in a shootout with me helping sec fight off a cyber ninja and a death squad, only for me to kill the HoS and get out in the extra escape shuttle near Arrivals

More than the code or byond's shitty interface, it's the people that make the game what it is

>>374403460
> it's the people that make the game what it is
This is true and also why i hate so much of the 'community'

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SS13 thread? Time to share my story:
>be totally fucking new to SS13
>put captain to low priority as a joke
>actually become it
>fuck.png
>might as well make the most of it
>head down to bridge
>start yelling stupid shit over the station intercomm
>eventually a security guy drags the head of science to me
>he's been snooping around in restricted areas apparently
>I look the HoS dead in the eyes
>"Pinky promise not to do that again"
>Sec guard says "Are you fucking kidding me", leaves the bridge to presumably slam his head against the wall
>HoS agrees
>I punch him square in the face
>let him go
>round continues
>eventually get called into the brig
>whole security team is there
>Shitbag HoS in custody again
>Caught killing another guard
>urge to commissar rising
>Ask him for a last request
>wants to speak to some random scientist
>warden says its a terrible fucking idea
>I bring her in anyway
>HoS about to say some cheesy dramatic thing
>THEN THE JANITOR BUSTS IN
>HE GRABS THE HoS IN HIS CART
>FUCKING SONIC SPEEDS AROUND THE PLACE
>WHOLE SECURITY TEAM IS WILDLY CHASING AFTER HIM AND FIRING
>JANITOR NEOS HIS WAY THROUGH EVERYTHING AND ZOOMS DOWN THE HALL
>HE SOAPED THE HALL SO ALL OF US SLIPPED LIKE FUCKING MORONS
>Laughing my ass off
>first to reach the end of hallway
>open door
>SYNDICATE BLOWS THE FUCKING HALL UP AND START GUNNING DOWN THE LEMMING SECURITY TEAM AND ANY FUCKER IN THE WAY
>I'm actually in tears at this point

Eventually when I tried to get cloned, something went wrong and I was left a gibbering retard on an evacuated space station, which I'm pretty sure was actually split in half.

That's when I fell in love with this game.

What server should I start playing on again? Haven't played in years

>>374403460
>More than the code or byond's shitty interface, it's the people that make the game what it is
Yeah, that's about the most accurate thing about SS13 that one can say. If we hypothetically had a SS13 server with a perfect community, it probably would be the only thing I'd play for years, but as it is now, I'm stuck in an endless love/hate cycle with the game: reading all these stories pull me back in periodically, but it usually doesn't take that long before I get annoyed by the community and quit playing it for a long time.

>>374403935
Sarcalogo's new server :^)

>>374403935
/vg/

>>374368492
it's the autism and metaclubs, the latter which eventually ruins every single server

>>374404081

>sarca

wait, the absolute madman owns a server now? post a link anon

>RP game
there you go. That's why. autist.

also BYOND is shit that deliberately kills creator's projects to fund games that they can make money off of. It's why falacy left, it's why liens is leaving, it's why bustercannon left and only recently brought back BLN (and he's made almost $3,000 since it came back last month, lel).

BYOND is fucking cancer. Playing SS13 is pretty much as bad as playing finale/DR.

>>374404904
Not yet, I'm just fucking with you. I'm strongly considering it. Maybe sometime in the summer, June maybe.

how fucking long until I can get my valids for bombing the shit out of sec for just working on toxins?
EVERY FUCKING TIME someone comes and tazes me then removes my bombs.
I just want my fucking self-defense valids for not letting those pieces of shit go smug on me

>>374401418
How do I find the discord url?

how do I play on lifeweb?

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>>374405521
https://discord.gg/t2AEX

>>374406092

if your account is old enough, you can play on the weekends

if not you'll have to pay the owner 15$

>>374406125
Thanks anon

>>374368492
It's the shitty laggy client and the suboptimal controls.
I'm sure it would be way more popular if those things were fixed but it will never happen because BYOND.

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vore is objectively the best codebase

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>roll wizard

>summom 4x mindswap apprentices

>give myself mindswap

>we all swap into all of the heads of staff

>start executing people without resistance

>>374401418
You forgor the part where it runs like shit unless you are a russian poorfag

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i miss niggly and celt they were so cute together

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>>374368492
I'm put off by the fact that you HAVE to have human moderator/admin intervention in order to make the game run as it's supposed to
but since human moderators/admins are all massive faggots and biased as fuck, the game basically becomes a "Who is best at convincing the admin of their point of view" simulator.
Convincing a powertripping dumbfuck why he is wrong may be fun some of the time. But it becomes the central (and perhaps only) gameplay mechanic, and it gets tiring fast.

>>374369417
IVE GOT INSULATED GLOVES, A FULL TOOLBELT AND A SPRAY BOTTLE FULL OF SPACE LUBE COME GET ME FLUKIES

>>374394289
>>374397346

>/vg/ fags on a outdated codebase with baymed

>map is so outdated that it doesn't have fullwindows


Lmao lavaland never ever buddy

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>>374408597
say ";BOOMBOX

>>374369482
I don't use Discord, what type of crowd does it attract?
Because Ventrilo attracted ERPwhores and narcissists.

>>374369726
>Community is filled with elitists and powergamers

Maybe the problem is that the game's design leaves new or unskilled players feeling helpless and unable to fight back.

If your problem is "I wanna RP and those Game-playing Game guys wanna win the objectives in their Game! Grr!" then RPing is the problem.

>>374408991
The problem is that admins don't add notes to ckeys often enough
admins don't communicate to each other enough for a proper file to be built on people who are repeatedly shitlers, so they get away with greytiding for far far too long

>>374381996
Hah, I was the chef in that round. Yogstation, wasn't it?
On one hand I could've continued to evade the wizard and survive longer, but meming was far more important for me.

>>374369726
Community and powergamer is right. Most people play to win and barely converse besides using shortened terms.

>>374408991
Playing to win in the sense of rushing your objective roundstart then blowing up the station 10 minutes in makes the game boring.

>/vg/ has shit code and is kinda autistic
>/tg/ is very autistic
>Paradise is supremely autistic and lags
>Goon is the epitome of anti-fun

Where do I go to enjoy this game, /v/?

>>374408763

>tfw I was the only survivor of the boombox ops

That was easily the greatest thing I ever experienced. It ruined SS13 for me by being too fucking funny.

>>374409119
Hol up.

I'm assuming by Greytiding you mean being an Assistant and getting the best gear possible by breaking into places so you can robust problems.

That's a valid way to play the game.

This is why I don't play SS13, every single fucking person thinks they're the Right Way To Play The Game police. Then when one of them gets moderator powers, they proceed to shit their personal tastes all over the server in question.

>>374409169

>>374409229
hippie

>>374409215
>Playing to win in the sense of rushing your objective roundstart then blowing up the station 10 minutes in makes the game boring.
Then I suppose the problem is that the game just isn't a very fun game.
If you have to invent sidegames (RP) to play during it in order to be entertained, then it's just not a good game

>>374409272
Most people who do that end up crying to the admins when they get the shit kicked out of them.

>>374402274
Will it be an overly moderated nanny state of a server?

If not I would play it

>first time ever, play hippie
>after a couple rounds of shitting about, dare to try chef, seems simple enough
>get a handle of things, make a couple pizzas
>assistant outside in the bar looks kind of lost
>decide to take a fellow newbie under my wing
>have to teach him how to perform basic movements and actions
>make it a test for him to drag me back a body
>he actually does it, was a brain dead librarian
>gib librarian
>get assistant to play dress-up as the librarian
>share human topped pizza before we get killed by radiation
good times

>>374409313
no

>>374409350
Game gives you the tools to play. It's up to the players mindset to make it fun

>>374409393
Hahahaha fuck 'em
If you break into places and you get your shit rocked, that's the price you pay. You join the grey tide you get ROBUST or you die.

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>>374409272
No it fucking isn't
The game is a roleplaying game on some level on almost all servers
I am talking about the only one that matters besides the other ones that do, /vg/
it is defined as low-medium RP
that means that you can be a faggot and break into places or have immulshion breaking names all you like
but you can't do the same stupid shit that a real spessmen wouldn't do time and time again
breaking into the same place round after round is against the rurus
if a greyshit roundstart hacks into the captains for the spare and then steals everything every round or every second round or every third round, they're doing nothing but causing issues
you are not the protaganist
the idea that it would be okay to break the in game law every single round as a non-antag is absurd

>>374408491
needing a dungeon master for a computer game

>>374409313
Hippie is the containment server of bad players for the ss13 community

>>374409432
Read these. First is short, second is long.

https://pastebin.com/SPNpyfyW
https://pastebin.com/6RFFMvKM

>>374409627
>Advertising the server to a large group that exists outside of common *chan culture is forbidden. Users who advertise to Reddit in particular will be permanently, permanently banned.
This is the most "tyrannical" rule, but I have to implement it.

>>374409729
they'll just use shell accounts to fuck it
or even worse post it on hippie forums

>>374409573

hippy is pretty fun as AI, most of the time the whole server goes into a shitstorms and all you can do is enjoy it

>>374409836
I know the Hippie players, and would let on a select few. If I needed admins I'd try to convince Hackole and Looping to do it, they are both competent and show restraint. They wouldn't do it though most likely. That's the problem, there are no good admins.

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>>374408763
>>374409249
Does anyone have the followup by Anon of the story about Boombox?

>>374410010
It's true I metagame as admin and nobody has found out since its so easy to bypass logging

>>374409627
Actually now that I think about it, I'm probably going to get rid of those suicide restrictions on Heads of Staff.

>First time playing
>Red alert
>Security walks up, asks to check character's bag
>HOW DO I PUT BAG
>Proceed to accidentally hit the security guard with a duffelbag for two minutes

And also.

>Steal crowbar
>Decide to become repo man
>Begin to pry up floor tiles due to non-payment
>Some bitch standing in the middle of the floor for some reason
>Hit her with crowbar
>Proceed to get chased by security for the next hour
>Dart in and out of tunnels, repossessing the floor as I go
>Eventually get caught
>Charged with assault
>"That's on the level. I mistook her for a floortile."
>Get 3 minutes in the brig, get to keep my crowbar

>>374409627
I also encourage anyone who is reading these rules to offer criticism. I want to make them looser.

>>374410295

I've been playing for 5 years now and I still don't know how to hand someone something. I always just drop whatever they want on the ground.

>metagaming is instant permaban
>unless you're friends with the admins in which case it's okay
the /vg/ lesbians (male) were my queue to get on with my life

>>374410010
The admins are the type of people who would let relentless shitbags like Dwright92 and Meteos run wild.

I highly doubt inviting a select few will be good.

>>374410558
Been a year since i last played, but I believe you drag the person to your self and click their open hand.
Much faster just to drop it or chuck it at their face though.

>>374410558
drag their sprite onto yours. then, with the item in the active hand, place it into their hand.

On another note, how do we fix security?
Its so unfullfilling to play,mainly because traitors can rape you with their gear and team antag rounds are much funner while playing as the antag side.
I try to play security sometimes, because im robust and can carry a sec team, but its annoying when i switch off and the sec team is , round after round, shit/useless.

How is SS13 compared to barotrauma?

Which one is more active?

>>374402274
It would be cool to have a servo run by non-autists that isn't empty and has non-shit rules, but maybe such a thing isn't possible?
And who to steal code from?
There's also the (((/vg/))) question.

>>374368492
The line between acceptably obnoxious and bannable is too blurry. People want the wackiness they see in SS13 stories but when they try to play they run into a wall of rules for every server or just plain get banned.

>>374410828
Unfixable because being good at sec requires you to be robust. Better off finding a way to convince the crew to lynch troublemakers

I used to play SS13 for probably fifteen hours a week at least. The problem is tg server is the best game mechanically, but pretty much every server is either underpopulated or run by power hungry faggots. There is no incentive to get robust because that faggot greyshit you gibbed for breaking into the kitchen and stealing shit on round start just PM'd his admin buddy who has a hard on to get you because you ruined his traitor round last round and now you're banned.

Fuck SS13

>>374410653
Can't think of any legitimate reasons those people would be banned aside from a Rule 0.
>>374411192
The server I would plan on running would run off of /tg/ code with me personally selecting what gets merged. Also a few balance changes to unfuck what /tg/ did. Removing anti-stuns for example. If you don't trust my judgment that's too bad, because it's pretty much going to be a dictatorship unless I can get a few competent people on board.

VGcucks wouldn't play on the server because it's not Medium RP faggotry.

Even goonstation is dwindling in numbers. Granted, I haven't played in months.