Holy.... Why are you playing the inferior versions of Persona 5?

You mean the English versions? Because I don't read know Japanese.

>caring about what some random weeb says on twitter

>>372794407
>Random weeb
Moogy is literally the biggest authority on Japanese translations, and does it all for free.
He's the founder of TLWiki, the best place for translating Japanese novels and such.
He's LITERALLY /ourguy/ when it comes to translating.

>>372794531
fuck off moogy

I once read a translation by moogy I was never the same again he turns kusoge into life changing kamige

>>372793712
Well is he gonna make a real translation we can patch in?

Why doesn't he open a patreon for it.

>>372793712

Verily.

What does moogy-dono do for a living, anyway? He make enough from translations to sustain himself?

>>372794606
kek

>>372793712
How far into the game does the English translation stop being good?

I think it's top notch for a JRPG so far.

Gotta love how mad all those people always get when a game gets localized and suddenly everyone gets to play it. The jrpg general on /vg/ died because of faggots like that one. They were literally so mad that they spoiled all the shit from japanese releases so nobody came to their general anymore and it just died.

>>372793712
Translation doesn't matter has long as people get to hear the glorious original voice acting

>>372793712
I dont think i can justify learning a language just for weeb shit

>>372795882
why not?? learning a new language is like the #1 way to keep your brain on point as you get older

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>>372793712
Didn't Atlus do a better job with all their other smaller series ?
Why would Persona have a shitty localization when mainline SMT or Etrian Odyssey had a great one ?

>>372796042
Or you could learn a useful language like Spanish, French, Chinese, Russian, etc.

>>372796671
>its useful! for business!!

how useful russian and french are anyway
unless you dont have a business with chinks spics same goes for it

>>372793712
>moogy

literally fucking who

>>372796786
No language aside from English is useful. A second language for a natural English speaker is like a hobby, pursued for the sake of enjoyment.

>>372796786
Do you have any idea how many more opportunities you have learning french or russian compared to fucking japanese? It's unreal.

>Japanese dialog and storytelling is so bad, and this is so widely known and expected, that even when the localization team fucks up no one notices.

Sounds about right.

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>>372796941
>Japanese dialog and storytelling is so bad, and this is so widely known and expected
That's a very narrowminded thing to say.

>>372796671
chinese fine, but spanish/french/russian??? the only possible application of russian that i can think of is reading tolstoy/gogol/dostoevsky in their mother tongue.. from a social or "business" standpoint, they're just as "useless" as japanese for a westerner..

intellectually, they're way worse because they're so similar grammatically to english so you're just learning less..

if you're going to spend like 5 years of your life learning a new language, you might as well choose one from a culture that you think is cool. playing games in japanese is a cool side benefit.

i didn't learn japanese, but i learned korean for the original starcraft. i went over there alone and was able to read/write/speak and it was so fucking cool. it wasn't perfect, but it was a great time.

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>>372796991
Japanese culture isn't inf-

>>372796991
the irony

>reviewers
>not smashing buttons to skip as much text as possible

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I read that as Hoy

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>>372794531
No one gives a shit about your nobody twitter boyfriend and his hentai translations.

>>372796991
anime, jrpgs and japanese pop culture is shit in general, just deal with it weeb

>>372793712
anyone got a roundup of the negative reviews for this? there's got to be a few out there.

>>372797165
>smashing

you can't just FF like golden? sure hope so.

>Some ESL can't understand English
No surprises here.

>>372797193
>waaah no gay romance
>waaah no portable version
So far even those are 7+ though.

>>372797193
If you want to goldenface.jpg so bad do it yourself

>>372793712
>twitter screenshot threads for literal whos that dont even qualify as an eceleb
/v/ keeps getting worse every day.

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Give me 10 examples that showcases why the localisation is bad

>>372797395
ah, well I'm sure metacritic will get some user scores later on.

it's nice to see opposing views. things getting showered with praise are annoying. no game is perfect/for everyone. especially not fucking persona.

>>372797552
Here's 4
https://twitter.com/BlackDragonHunt/status/849170020202688512

>>372793712
>anime avatar
>uses the word nigh
>fat virgin irl
dropped

>>372797621
That last one seems ok?

>>372797603
This. If a game doesn't even get 98 (97) it's pure fucking shit.

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>>372797621
I'm so fucking thankful I didn't end up like this.

>>372797739
Not really, It's confusing to read.

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>>372797552
Here's some.


Localization was rushed. April 4 is about the last possible date you can release a game and get sales to retailers within fiscal year 2016.

I hope it's improved in a patch.

>>372797739
It technically is, but it's awkward compared to what someone would normally say. Unless the person saying it is intentionally saying it in a weird way, it's not okay.

>>372797947
Jesus, this is amateur scanlation-tier

>>372797947
But doesn't Igor usually talk like that? Not sure about the two at the bottom though.

>>372797621
man, weebs be weebin' it up. didn't prolapse my butthole trying to read that.

>I am a connoisseur of Japanese culture
>only watches anime, reads manga, maybe a fucking LN and plays video games
>also probably out of shape in some way and ugly
>hates his own culture(that he probably doesn't know anything about)
No wonder Japan hates foreigners when people like this go there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

>>372797947
It feels like they haven't had enough time to edit shit properly

>>372798227
get a job

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>>372797621
>>372797947
seems like your typical weebshit translation to me

>>372798271
Yeah, reads like a first draft translation that didn't get worked over. Not inaccurate, but doesn't flow well.

>>372796909
>russian

Wow its fucking nothing.

>>372798204
Assuming the top two lines are Igor, only the first one is acceptable, and even then it's questionable. The second one is not okay, because "haven't" should not have been used there. "Didn't" is correct.

To make matters worse, these are all voiced lines, are they not? And still nobody called them out.

>nintenbros are THIS desperate to shit on games they can't get
I guess it can't be helped.

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Are you at least able to change the text back into Japanese or would I have to import the game for it to make sense? I know a lot of JRPGs allow you to change the language these days but you can never be too sure

>>372798640
there's a free jap audio pack, not sure about text but you can catch retarded shit by ear

>>372798640
Why wouldn't you have just played the game last year, retard?

>>372793712
>nigh unreadable gibberish

Hyperbole, the language of the internet. I can understand it fine.

>>372798361
You say that but you'll have to speak Russian eventually thanks to all these ignorant rural and suburban retards that voted for Drumpf

>>372798223
>HURR WEEB WEEB WEEB WEEBITY WERB FUKKIN WEEBS MAN
Your post reads like something straight out of a youtube comment srction or 9gag.
Hello Hardin how's that layoff going :)

>>372797621
All those are fine, is English your first language?

>>372798295
>getting a job is hard
I know it is hard for you weebs, but it's the easiest shit if you know English and have basic social skills. There are a billion chinks out there that will pay you just for conversation practice.

moogy-dono is an authority in all things Japanese

>>372798781
>All those are fine
You can't be serious.

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>>372798708
not so fast

In all seriousness, learning a non-English language for profit sounds stupid. Why hire you for anything that requires bilingual ability in that language instead of one of the many, many people who speak it natively and also learned English from a young age?

You think there's a shortage of Chinese or Russians or something?

Reminder that your only option is to learn Japanese or bitch and moan.

>>372798847
A lot of companies that want someone who speaks a foreign language will go for a native speaker rather than one of their own natives who learned it.

>>372798847
Learning a language is absolutely vital for your brain. Once you get out of high school, there's an entire part of your brain that doesn't get used anymore. Linguistics and pragmatics get set in motion and you become stuck in your ways for communication. It's especially important to learn a new language in and out of high school. You don't want to wait until you hit thirty or forty and fumble all over yourself.

>>372797621
>You are blocked from following and viewing this
Do I bother logging out for it?

Is this the new lol EOPs thread?

Cause lol EOPs
Also lol /v/'s N2-kuns

>>372796616

This is just my opinion, but something changed recently with ATLUS.

I can largely understand Japanese, but I tend to play games with English subs and Japanese audio.

Tears to Tiara II's translation was great, SMTIV's translation was great, but SMTIV:Final's was horrible. Like, NISA-tier.

Seems to me like something's changed recently.

>>372798847
>spending 4 years at university to get a piece of paper so you can get an office job
Doesn't really seem that stupid now.

>>372798974
No, BDH is just SJW trash. The image was also posted here.

>>372796616
Best theory?
They didn't know people cared.

>>372797621
I don't get it.

All of those look and read fine to me.

>>372799070
>>I can largely understand Japanese, but I tend to play games with English subs
Why lie, man? I'll occasionally switch to English for a minute, or check a Youtube playthrough to see how something was translated, but playing a game in English means you really have no understanding of Japanese.

>>372798749
lol

>>372798847
>and also learned English from a young age
Except these people sound like cavemen when they "speak" English.
>>372798945
Pretty much this. I have to prove myself that I am not some caveman sounding retard even though I've known English all my life. You native speakers should take these golden opportunities if you are desperate for jobs.

>>372797947
at least it's not ((("localized"))) by SJWs

>>372799160

It depends on the game.
I don't feel confident playing SMT in purely Japanese because of all the mythology nonsense.

I do currently live in Japan and played Persona 5 in Japanese though.

>>372799160
>what is kanji recognition

>>372795510
I've seen the Quick Look at it looks like right off the bat!

>Battle theme LITERALLY includes Shart in Mart
They know their audience.

>>372798749
How are weebs still triggered by this word? It's like a Hanukkah miracle or some shit.
>>372798946
Stop spewing pseudoscience, saucy.
Here's a tip, anytime you use the word "brain" while not referring to the literal organ, you're usually reciting hokum.

How's the text aesthetically look? From what I remember from previews the English text was pretty terrible compared to the Japanese.

>>372799328
Something you struggle with?

>>372797621

Looks like solid google-translate tier localization.
Cutting costs is always the best way to raise profits in vidya 2017.

>>372798708
>>372798830
>>372798957
lol

>>372799319
>I do currently live in Japan
Do you want a medal or something, you fucking English teacher? Come on, post your N1 at least.

>>372799140
Here.

The first one, if it's Igor, is whatever. It can be left as it is. The second one:
>But today, you entered a partnership with someone who awoke to the same power, didn't you?

The third:
>Mr. Kamoshida's too nice, refusing to abandon a punk like that...

The fourth:
>All right, I understand. I'll continue doing my best to meet your expectations.

That's it. That's all they had to do.

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>>372797059
get a load of this culture

OH NO MY WEEB LIFE REPLACEMENT WAIFU SIM ISN'T 100% FAITHFUL TO THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE

WHY OH WHY DON'T THEY LITERALLY TRANSLATE THESE CULTURAL REFERENCES WHICH NOBODY WILL UNDERSTAND?

>>372799529
You talking shit about Gundams mate?

>>372794531
>>372793712

>trust the lord of weebs with an anime avatar over professionals hired for the sole purpose of doing a translation

yeah, no.

>>372799613
In a room like that everything would be awful.

>>372799529
>body pillow sleepover
Who the hell would RSVP to that?

>>372799514
>N1 meaning something

Not him, by the way.

>>372799598
It's exactly the opposite you drooling baboon

>>372793712
I want /vn/ e-celebs to fuck off.

watch and learn

boobies = good localization
no boobies = bad localization

>>372797341
Reminder that when /sp/ and /a/ merged for the day it turned out that every single japanese purist on /a/ was a fucking south american

They hate localisation because they can barely speak english

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>>372799598
Actually. The translation is quite literal. That's the problem.

>>372799598
What's funny is that this thread is more about terrible engrish than it is about actual translation errors, but keep defending Atlus fatty.

>>372799658
>being this ignorant

Those people are professional translators themselves, and there is a much higher standard for visual novel translations than there is for video game translations.

>>372795623
>Gotta love how mad all those people always get when a game gets localized and suddenly everyone gets to play it.
What the fuck? Are you illiterate? That isn't even close to what he's complaining about.

>>372799701
you are literally cancer

>>372799694
No shit, but if he's actually living in Japan he should at least have it for being stupid enough to move there.

It's a reasonable baseline for those types of weebs, especially when they insist that they "mostly know" Japanese.

>>372799723
Which confuses me because in places where they could have had a literal translation, we instead get "Wassup Persona" and shit. Also they kept honorifics, kind of, but use "Mr" and shit for the teachers, and that triggers me.

>>372799861
It's almost like you've only been shown samples that reflect a preconeived narrative or something.

>>372799378
there is no evidence that people without language constructs can function on the level of even an average human. Deaf persons were thought to be retarded until sign language was developed, and now we know deaf people are just unlucky.
if you want to dispute this claim, find literally 1 person who has no language construct and is intelligent

>>372799514
>>372799859
>being this asshurt because you don't know Japanese
Just leave this board lmao, gb2reddit

>>372799756
>there is a much higher standard for visual novel translations than there is for video game translations.
This is probably the stupidest post I've read all week, congrats I guess.

VN translations are almost universally dogshit. Some game translations are passable enough.

>>372799931
More like I watched a translated stream and then started playing the english version. And am still playing the english version. Like, right now.

>>372798957
>le proud for voting for hillary

Lmao biggest fucking loser

>>372800000
praise kek

Why do EOPs feel so insecure when an actual knowledgeable person points out the shit translations they're being forcefed?

You should be grateful, you uncultured apes.

I don't think anything will top Tales of Hearts R's shitty translation.

It's still my favourite one to play

>>372799859
True.

Also you should stop going to /r/japancirclejerk, it's way too recognizable from the way you post now.

Also did you have some bad experience in Japan? I'd be interesting in hearing details.

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>>372796671
>Learning Chinese

Don't do it anon.

>>372800041
Fuck off, moogy.

>>372796909
What opportunities are there if I know russian?

>>372799958
While posting in a thread about some /a/ eceleb's opinion?
Why waste your multitasking talent on this?

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>>372796991
Lolicons and otakus are literally ruining a lot of japanese pop culture appeal.

I don't give a jack shit if you like little girls, whatever.

I DO give a shit about blatant pandering, bad stories, and heavy handed fanservice.

Otakus and lolicons falling for this shit every time has only made the anime and jap game market more stale over time.

Am I wrong? I wish I was.

>>372793712
Because this is delicate high tier writing that needs to be translated carefully and not just weeb text where you understand half the context trough the visuals alone.

>>372800134
I don't have a good answer for that.

>>372799951
自殺しろ。

>>372800064
I think I went to /r/learnjapanese once just for a laugh, I really have no idea what goes on at your favorite site.

>>372799529
Nigga those rooms looks comfy as FUCK. 100% jelly.

>>372800209
t. clueless EOP

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>>372794531
>biggest authority on Japanese translations

>>372800216
>I really have no idea what goes on at your favorite site.

I'm talking about /r/japancirclejerk. If you're not a regular there then you should perhaps become one, everyone there posts like you do. You'll also learn epic 2ch memes for more online Jap cred. For example 逝ってよし (meme version of 自殺しろ).

>>372800151
Nigga you're not Japanese.

You're in no position to say what is and what isn't being ruined in Japan. Fucking idiot.

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>/v/ last year
WE WANT A DIRECT TRANSLATION, DONT CENSOR OUR GAMES, WE CAN UNDERSTAND JAPANESE CULTURE

>/v/ now
REE WHY IS THIS DIRECTLY TRANSLATED? THIS ISNT ELEGANT AT ALL!

You asked for it retards.

>>372800427
>Both of those are the same people

Surely you don't actually believe that, genius?

>>372800338
5 years of japanese here. Nips have the most mindless scripts I have ever read.

I should have shot moogy when i had a chance.

>>372800484
Show your N1.

The only issue with the translation is some of the answers for pop quizzes.

Like that fucking bullshit with the King Crab.

>>372793712
Why do people still pretend to care about this retard when he's never translated anything of note and continually proves himself to have shitty and contrarian taste?

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>>372800424
Yeah.


I'm not Japanese.

I'm literally complaining about where japan is currently with their popular media.

Am I not allowed to have a perspective on it?

>>372799953
You are talking about a bunch of autist who translate a book worth of text for a measly 5 illustration of people having sex, and they have been doing it for 10 years for internet forum reputation points.

I would trust them more than any localization company.

>>372800338
And after the terrible translation I'm still clueless, for all the wrong reasons.

>>372800526
>s-show your worthless quiz results
I'm a chef I have no need for worthless documentation only NEETs desire.

>>372800427
>these are the same people
>this is a coherent thought
you're a fool. you can have both

Some of these translations are so shit I'm actually expecting to see ABAJ.

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>>372800000

>>372800636
You're certainly not in the position to demand it changed

>>372800683
Wow, cool gig.

>>372800484
Now say it in japanese

>>372800041
You cant discuss this kind of things on /v/ is too easy to troll guys like you

>>372800041
All you have to do is reply weeb
And the discussion is over

>>372800785
>weebs are so goddamn sensitive even /v/ isn't weeby enough
Well, there's other boards I guess? Go try those.

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>>372800724
I didn't do that.

I complained that japs and otakus have created a stale creative environment.

>>372800758
私はシェフですこの業界では日本人の必要はありません

>>372800901
Why are you telling me to go to another board?
I just told him the truth
No need to chimp out

>>372800041
None of you are close to fucking fluent in japanese though

>>372801081
moogy-dono is, though. He is an eminence in Japanese

>>372801067
because how am I going to get (you)s if they listen to you?

>>372793712
>weeblord crying about MUH SUPERIOR NIPPONESE LANGUAGE FORDED ONE MIRRION TIMES
Who gives a shit

>>372801041
Boy is that untrue.

>>372801184
People never learn, dont worry

>>372801124
He's a foreigner who exclusively interacts with the language via fucking VNs

Pssh.
You americans will never get the subtelties of the moment where the main character hits the bad guy with a big attack!

How will you even go on!

>>372801247
Do it better, I'm waiting.

>>372801275
No, he actually has profiles in Japanese LN communities where he leaves his reviews (in Japanese), browses 2ch regularly, constantly reads Japanese news and blogs, and so on. Which is more than can be said about most "professional" vidya translators.

>>372801041
>日本人の必要はありません
日本語?

あるいは同僚はみんなチンクなどの日本人以外のアジア人なので日本語を使える相手がいないと言いたいわけ?

>>372801412
I actually forgot about that. How 2ch made fun of him for being a dumbass.

>>372801562
Storytime, anon.

>>372798749
why dont you post a smug anime about it o3o

>>372801412
So he shitposts on 2ch? Holy shit what a step up from the fucks at Atlus!

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>>372799529
>Hating on the Gundam Mk. II

Shit taste, anon.

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>koestl also trashing the localization

Atlus is done for

>>372801924
gundam wing without le over powered suits like the gundams and tallgeese would have been so much better

>>372801987
Perhaps EOPs will believe him?

They were circlejerking his translation of Grisaia.

>>372801987
>check his twitter profile
>only 2.2k followers
Oh dear. How will Atlus recover? Can they recover?

I'm about five hours into the game now. Aside from the "wassup persona" line, nothing has been liberally translated and most of it sticks to a very literal interpretation, to a fault at times. Like when you meet Sakura for the first time and you can reply with "Please take care of me." That's kinda weird because nobody would ever respond like that in English, but whatever.

Most of the "trash" examples given are fine. They're all perfectly understandable. People can criticize the word choice and syntax but English is a very fluid language; there's about a hundred ways to say anything you can think of. What might sound totally weird for one person might sound completely fine to another. I guarantee that my way of speaking probably sounds awkward to some people out there, even if I'm understandable.

Also, Moogy has a history of being an idiot so I don't know why anyone would listen to anything he has to say.

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>>372802024
There are series that use mook suits almost exclusively.

>>372793712
>,but.
Alright whatever I will bait

>>372800638

why would you trust them more any localisation company

people who do things for free are not better than people who do things for money

>>372802302
any recommendations??? i need a new show to watch and that sounds awesome. i have already seen gundam 00 team or whatever it was called

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>>372802024
The Mk.II is actually from the UC anime, not Wing's timeline.

The Gundams aren't as "ludicrously overpowered" compared to the average mass produced unit. Of course, throw in psychic powers and the machine itself is secondary to mindfuckery.

If you haven't watched any UC animes, I'd actually highly recommend them, they are very different from Wing.

>>372802561
If you would like to get a taste of UC, I'd recommend watching 08 MS Team, Stardust Memory and War in the Pocket and if you liked it, you could watch stuff like 0079 and Zeta.

>>372802628
>animes

>>372802748
08 ms team is the one that i meant i have already seen.. i have never really been able to get into the traditional gundam universe because of all the psychic powers and stuff like that.. i really loved wing other than the previously mentioned op suits and some of the bad action sequences though. additionally i recently watched Schwarzesmarken for the ecchi but i stayed for the mechs/politics, that show was pretty cool.

>>372802628
i know it's from the primary gundam universe and not wing, i was just saying. i would much rather follow a skilled pilot in a grunt suit than a gundam because the gundams themselves make the show kinda lame..

also, in real life you don't see fighter pilots with completely modified frames, everyone gets the same basic frame from the worst pilot to the best ace

>>372802561
Votoms, Nadesico, Macross, Dougram

>>372803038
Well, in that case, definitely >>372803087

Especially Votoms.

>>372803034
?

>>372803193
「anime」の複数形は「animes」ではなく単数形と同じく「anime」なのだ。

>>372803313
Considering most of my japanese friends use animes, I would say animes is correct
Kill yourself autist

>>372802408
Because usually if someone does something for no monetary gain, they're doing it because they love it and want to do it as correct as possible.

>>372800151
how exactly is it their fault?

falling for what? little girls? well no shit sherlock. of course they'lll overlook bad gameplay if it has their fucking fetish.

maybe think before posting next time.

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>>372803431
>my japanese friends
sure, buddy.

>>372801412
You get proficient at a language when you regularly speak it with others who can speak it and not just reading and ''''''writing''''' it.

>>372803431
>Considering most of my japanese friends use animes

日本語ができないせいで日本人の友達を英語で話させているの?迷惑かけているな。

>>372793712

yeah I stopping caring about random weebs shit opinions after Niche Gamer went ultra autistic about Breath of The Wild. Yes even more than Jim Sterling. He said the dub NOT JUST ZELDA THE WHOLE DUB was no hyperbole worse than Tommy Wiseau among other "I only played the game for less than 10 hours" opinions. At least Super Bunny Hop showed his play clock and explained himself.

>>372799070

>something changed recently with ATLUS.

yeah the voice actors strike

>>372799598
While I've been enjoying the game alot there's several moments(most of the game so far actually) that looks like it was put into some machine translation tool, some sentences are hard to read because they are just weird or make no sense.

>>372793712

YOU MEAN WEEBS THAT HATE ANY AND ALL ENGLISH DUBS OF GRORIOUS MOONLAND WORK HATE THIS DUB? WELL FUCK MY HIPS ARE MOVING ON THEIR OWN ABOUT THAT!

Yeah why should I care about someone that didn't even like the P4 dub?

>>372803458
Something like this actually needs to be explained to 18+ year olds?

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>persona 3 comes out
>WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THIS TRANSLATION IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
>persona 4 comes out
>WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS TRANSLATION THEY'RE TAKING TOO MANY LIBERTIES
>persona 5 comes out
>WHAT THE FUCK THIS TRANSLATION IS AS LITERAL AS POSSIBLE WHY DIDN'T THEY RE-WRITE AND EDIT THE ENTIRE SCRIPT

Damn, time to do my reps I guess.
I only learn languages for entertainment, so what's next after jap?

>>372803639

but all that does is let you be an elitist prick when you encounter someone that doesn't know better.

>oh this casual entryfag can't even tell this critically acclaimed game has a shit translarion and isn't letting it get in the way of their enjoyment? what a pleb.

SUBFAGS ARE ALWAYS THE WORST.

>>372799529
That guy is literally swimming in games and comics. He's like the Scrooge McDuck of otaku stuff.

I bet the complaint is

Atlus script "Hey is that your piece of cake"

Literally weeaboo's script "Oi you-san, is datto your piisu of cake-tachi-senpai-yoro desu?"

>>372793712

>"""""translator""""" literally SEETHING they can't get a real job translating pansu quest 12 and getting autistic whenever they see someone getting paid to do it supposedly doing a worse job

What's the matter weeb? Mad you have to make a living being a wage slave or an e begger instead of doingwhat you like?

>>372804037
>elitist prick
You mean people who actually have standards and expect some some semblance of quality out of professional work and will rightfully talk shit if it's not?

>>372796786
>unless you dont have a business with chinks spics

That's literally impossible in this day and age.

I love how people can say this shit. Like when I heard interview of Philip Gabriel and Jay Ruben, who translated almost all Murakami stuff and they said how there are people who call them out or other translators on "hurr durr, things get lost in translation, hurr durr that doesnt sound right" and how the fuck can you know if its wrong or anything if you havent studied that for dozens of years, lived in Japan etc. Its all bullshit what comes from these weebs that think they know correct source sentence because of learning words from anime fansubs.

>>372803867
>>372804259
>>372804264
/v/ is fucking retarded. Holy shit.

>>372804317
>You mean people who actually have standards and expect some some semblance of quality out of professional work and will rightfully talk shit if it's not?
they're not that good though, their standards are skewed and not really objective

>>372804409
Except the guy in the OP actually knows Japanese and is not some guy who learned a few words from anime subs.

>>372800427
>game is """"localized"""
"Stop putting memes and changing characters to suit your sensibilities."
>game is put through google translate
"This translation is awful, how lazy are you people?"

>>372802408
>localization company
>marketing to your average joe
>hence shoddy meme translations

>really dedicated niche autism
>marketing to more niche autism and also themselves
>hence high quality meticulous translations

Use your brain a bit.

>>372804317

again you are making my point for me.

Casual: Hey I like X game.
Subfag: But don't you know this game has terrible voice acting acting and translated from the original language with a butcher cleaver?
Casual: Well I don't watch every anime or japanese media so it doesn't seem bad to me.
Subfag: REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>372798370
"Haven't" is correct. Haven't entered. "Didn't" would apply to the present tense, as in "Didn't enter".

On this particular case it's often interchangeable due to how removed of a statement it is.

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>>372804414
This is the same board that thinks O'Smith is a masterful "translator" even when he plainly admits he makes shit up since the devs don't care, but the fake victorian english makes them feel so high brow it's alright.

It's also the same board that praised XSEED years ago when they were literally Working Design 2.0 and now that they lost street cred they hate them.
Then again, if you criticize an evidently bad translation you must be a weeb loser with no life, amirite.

>>372804785
I don't think you know anything about O'Smith or his translation work. He's one of the few consistently great Japanese to English translators.

Reading all these examples, the game's translated, but localized poorly. Considering only fucking weebs are playing P5, it's fine. Actually reading them, the point is conveyed fine if not just a bit stilted.

However, the VAs did mispronounce Sakamoto, and that's heretical.

>>372804896
Like fucking clockwork.

>>372793712

>caring about subfags onions

VIDEO GAMES also,

>there are people today that shit on Ted Woosley not because of what he brought for video game localizations but because of what he CAUSED

you weebs are the sole reason why Robotech gets such a bad fucking rap because MUH MACROSS THEY RUINED IT and not because they brought a successful syndicated anime to the west AND DID IT WELL when there was fuckall before.

>BUT ASTRO BOY CAME OUT IN THE 60s

dub or sub it was shit kids programming radio tier dubwork. It did the manga no favors.

>>372804663
I take issue with calling someone who knows enough Japanese in the first place to call out terrible translations to be called a "Subfag" first of all.

Doesn't have to be a prick about it, but I can understand being frustrating at seeing the average joe who are most likely giving these guys a paycheck not caring about being fed sloppy work.

>>372804896
prove it

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>>372805009
Great rebuttal.

>>372801987
Oh no the guy whose own fucking tweet reads like broken english is upset.

>>372794531
>biggest authority on Japanese translations

>>372801525

いわゆる冗談という発言でした。自閉傾向のお前には通じない

>>372804549
>OP actually knows Japanese and is not some guy who learned a few words from anime subs.
according to who? his 2k twitter followers who jack off to VNs and can't actually tell if he translates those porn games correctly?

There's nothing more hilarious than people being insufferable weebs about translations but not quite weeb enough to learn the Japanese meme language.

>>372805091

in one ear and out the other huh? see>>372804605

the demos Atlus gives a fuck about isn't YOU. Just turn on subs if englisg triggers you so much. you are the sort that shits on Bebop.

>>372805232
The funniest thing ITT is people who can't speak Japanese insisting that certain people speak fluent Japanese.

How the fuck would they know

>>372805298
Even when they learn it they're obnoxious because they try to wave it in everyone else's face

I speak Japanese for my job

>>372805223
笑えない冗談を冗談と言えない。
だが傾向じゃなくて立派な自閉症を患ってるお前にはぴったりだな。

>>372805034
>Defending Harmony Gold
Robotech is better off dead

>moogy-dono says the TL is shit
>kastel-sama says the TL is shit
>koestl-sama says the TL is shit

it's official.

So, basically this time Nier got a better translation than persona?

>>372805650
i thought 4-8 did the translation which is also bad according to weebs iirc.

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>>372793712

What is his actual complaint? What does he mean when he says "nigh-unreadable gibberish"? I don't think he means what that sentence means in normal English, because it's clearly readable.

Is this another one of those snobs who act like a minor shift in tone is a crime against humanity?

>>372805034
>defending fucking Robotech out of no where for no reason.
>weeweeeweeweeeebs! I SAD "WEEEEEEEBS"! SO I'M RIGHT!

I don't understand how some people can become as stupid as you.

>>372805650
Eh, Nier's translation spoils a plot twist 2 hours before it's supposed to be revealed.

>>372805208
The burden of proof is on you, O'Smith literally said he made shit up and put his own fanfiction in the games because the bigwigs at Squenix don't care as long as the game sells, and he gets praised for that, he's just as bad as the rest of those localizer hacks.

>To help get something that feels genuine, at the end of Tactics Ogre we went back through each character’s dialog, filtering for that one character, to make sure that they’re consistent. This is something I like to do when I have time on any project. We found one person in that process that we’d been translating as a rough and tumble pirate but something wasn’t fitting quite right. We looked into her background a little more and found out that she was a noblewoman that had married into the pirates. We then went back and revisited all of her dialog.

>Our bottom line is doing just service to the original Japanese text. You have to keep in mind what the game is trying to accomplish. When you have a little extra time, that’s when you can begin extrapolating along the lines of the original: “If an English-language team had developed this game, what kinds of approaches might they have taken?” An example that comes to mind is the bestiary in Final Fantasy XII. Since we had the time, enthusiasm and carte blanche to do what we wanted with that, we rewrote it in the style of a Victorian era biological text.

Source:
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2011/02/kajiya_productions.php

Face it, O'Smith is a hack, he literally said he disregard how a character is written in japanese because it doesn't fit HIS idea of said character, he admitted he used a completely different register just to push his stupid ideas of how characters should speak, he's not a translator, he's a shitty failed ghost writer that rewrites and even adds his own lines to original scripts and he only gets a free pass because of dumb pretentious fuckers like you.

>>372805390

>How the fuck would they know

how do we know they aren't as shit as Atlus? I don't speak moon nor do I plan to so how would I tell a translation from another? Their word?

>YOOOOOO WASSSAP

english anarchronisms aka. memes don't count. I'll just Junes as an example. I know there are chain "all in one" stores in moonland and this is clear example of one but to us dirty gaijins that's just a Wal Mart. That's not a shit dub that is just making it easier for english casuals to understand. Am I insisting that Atlus go back to full Persona Revelations tier of changing shit? Fuck no. But if the shoe fits....

Who gives a shit what some weebs think, I'm still going to play it and have fun.

https://youtu.be/tEXurYaIHao?t=15s

Peopled payed to localize shit are literally perfect guiez

>>372805831
tell me how this is>>372797947
'''''''nigh unreadable gibberish'''''

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If you learned Japanese you'd be able to enjoy the newest fantasy battle harem already.

>He plays the English Dub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0pM7Uk6kY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0pM7Uk6kY

>>372805949
n-n-no it's those unpaid retarded smelly losers who have temp work paid by horny weebs from time to time that are the bestest pros ever guise

>>372805958
It isn't, but it can be phrased much better.
There's a difference between "I exited my apartment is an expedient fashion because a flame had threatened to destroy me." and "I ran out of my apartment because there was a fire."

>>372805620

I'm not defending Harmony Gold, I'm defending Carl Masack. Fuck you, you insufferable weeb if it were up to you nothing of substance would have came over here and anime in the west would have died in the early 90s and cartoons would be considered childrens material more than it already is. All so you can keep your precious nipponese cartoons to yourself.

>>372806174

>having to read while watching cutscenes or read while playing

no thanks.

>>372797947

Okay that's clunky as shit.

I wouldn't call it "nigh-unreadable gibberish".

>>372806201
>It isn't,
so your Japanese translation overlord of magnificence is apparently a whiny bitch, isn't he?

>>372806260

If you don't like reading, I'm sorry, but you're clinically retarded and have IQ 60 or so. That's just how it is.

>>372806260
>Not being able to read 20 words in a matter of 2 seconds

Holy shit anon are you actually fucking retarded?

L M A O

>>372804785
all of XIV and you had to post manderville quests where it doesn't really matter if they went full meme
>>372805650
>>372805747
Automata had no major changes to the script as far as I can tell and at the very least it read like actual English
though I've heard /v/ complain that 2B was a bitch, I can't tell if they're just being stupid, there were some minor changes but since I'm a weeb I played with the jap audio so I could've interpreted those lines differently from the dub

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>>372806220
>anime in the west would have died in the early 90s
>implying this is a bad thing

Aren't the subtitles based on the English audio? What's the point of listening to the Japanese one if you're reading the English translation?

>>372806287

You seem to be furiously fighting an opponent that exists only in your own head.

So when you play this game with the Japanese audio does it also change the subtitles or are they the same subs for the English dub?

>>372806287
Not the same guy you were talking to. Should've clarified. I will say that if the writing looks like some kind of 2007-era BDSM doujin scanlation where they use superfluous words then the translation team has fucked up.

>>372793712
Is this Dark Sage?

>>372806407
Because every voice actor is californian or is putting the accent on and californians are insufferable to listen to.

>>372796892
Murican education at it's best

>>372805927

so he went and added shit to characters backstories when in the original they were much more bland? Didn't Ted Woosley get praised for this same shit in the 90s with Squaresoft? My god you weebs are insufferable as fuck.

>>372796671
>Spanish
Fucking kek. Learning Spanish will net you a manager job at jack in the box. A second language for business is only useful if you're already in business and have partners in that country. Leaning a language for a reason you want is just a good idea for personal benefit.

Even talking about 'practical' applications though, the more difficult and useful a language cross over, the more marketable it is for career purposes. E/J is an excellent cross over because you have 2 wealthy nations that have a lot of business and product exchange, and native English speakers don't often delve deeply enough into Japanese, nor do native Japanese delve enough into complex English. Not to say it doesn't happen, but it's not an easy cross over like a native English speaker learning Spanish or a chinaman learning nip.

>>372806174
What's wrong with American's vocal cords?

Are you incapable of pronouncing foreign words?

>>372806407
because they intentionally mispronounce the names for some reason
also honorifics, I don't know if they kept them though, they're really rare in P5

>>372806220
>anime in the west would have died in the early 90s
not with Europe and south america being the main market. Stop believing your shitty toonami and NA market had any impact. You never bought shit in that industry.

>>372806443

Why the fuck would they have two translations for text? Nobody has ever had that.

Uhhhhhh but /v/ told me only Nintendo localizations were bad?

>>372806524
>implying
Knowing Spanish while having a second major will net you tons of jobs, son. Only for the next 40 years though. Tons of businesses need translators.

>>372806531
What bothers me most is how influencial America is on Japanese anime. The only reason Miyazaki movies are even talked about is because America can't handle controversial topics.

So when will we get a fan TL project for Persona?

>>372806528
>honorifics

Anyone who wants honorifics in an English translation of anything should be shot dead.

>>372806526
Sometimes directors literally tell VAs to pronounce Japanese words wrong because it appeals better to non-weeby casuals. Even though Persona is kinda niche. I dunno.

Sa-KAH-moto is pretty unforgivable though.

>>372806387
>where it doesn't really matter if they went full meme
So, it's literally okay for when Godbert does it?
Nice cherry picking, but the rest of the game is just as bad on average.

>>372806407
The japs can put more heart into the emotional scenes, american VAs can't really do it that well.

>>372805958
>point out how stupid his post was
>b-b-but you must convince me that guy is right!
No, your hysteric shitpost, what the guy said, and the screencap an anon posted are 3 unrelated things, one of them being right or wrong doesn't magically turn your rabid idiocy into something more or less stupid.

>>372806287
Yeah, he's definitely a whiny bitch because a single random screecap an anon posted on a random thread isn't literally unreadable gibberis.

You know what's the saddest thing, even sadder than this huge load of laughable logical fallacies? That you clearly don't care at all about those subjects, you just want an excuse to get perma-angry about something or someone. Basically this >>372806441.
Dude, chill out, or find a better way to use such a aimless bottled up anger.

I have aspergers so I prefer a very literal translation.

>>372806632
Nigga that's a super saturated market. Do you know how many Mexicans are in the US? How many of them also know English? How many of their kids are gonna grow up knowing both English and Spanish? If it were a good career path, Juan wouldn't be in front of Home Depot. Even if Juan is too dumb to realize he apparently 'net tons of jobs', his kids sure as shit will.

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https://streamable.com/urqbv

DUBS

B
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F
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>>372805927
>>To help get something that feels genuine, at the end of Tactics Ogre we went back through each character’s dialog, filtering for that one character, to make sure that they’re consistent. This is something I like to do when I have time on any project. We found one person in that process that we’d been translating as a rough and tumble pirate but something wasn’t fitting quite right. We looked into her background a little more and found out that she was a noblewoman that had married into the pirates. We then went back and revisited all of her dialog.
>>Our bottom line is doing just service to the original Japanese text. You have to keep in mind what the game is trying to accomplish. When you have a little extra time, that’s when you can begin extrapolating along the lines of the original: “If an English-language team had developed this game, what kinds of approaches might they have taken?” An example that comes to mind is the bestiary in Final Fantasy XII. Since we had the time, enthusiasm and carte blanche to do what we wanted with that, we rewrote it in the style of a Victorian era b

Those kind of people need to be executed like rabid dogs with a headshot.
Subhuman life failures bottom of the barrel skunks think they can be creative directors and control things outside their personal capability to such an extend it changes the original intent.
It's as bad as all those failed Hollywood directors who come into the video game industry to make artsy games and cinematic experience trash like Uncharted and Heavy Rain. Absolutely fucking despicable failures at life who like to pretend they are something they will never be.

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>>372793712
>nigh unreadable

Why are Americans so dumb? English is not my native lingo and I can read the TL just fine.

I'm very happy with P5. They're staying close to the original, which is all I asked for.

Oh and it's still better than SG0 translation ha ha.

>>372806317
>>372806362

I'm sorry I like paying attention to the VISUAL ANIMATED STIMULATION rather than straining at the bottom for the text 90% percent of the time. Action gets commonly praised by casuals because plot doesn't mean shit and they can just watch the purty fights.

>>372806832
A lot of the phrasing is god awful, nigh unreadable people are overexaggerating but that doesn't mean it's not clearly lacking a QC/QA pass.

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>>372793712

Well not that big of a deal for other foreign countries. We are not triggered as easily as you since it's not our native language.

>>372806646
Imagine "Nuh-rew-toe" every episode

>>372806838
If you can't read 2 lines of text in a second then you're clinically retarded.

Did your redneck mother drop you on your head repeatedly in the past?

>>372806801
Eh, that's just poor direction. The director clearly wasn't informing the VAs about the proper emotional resonance and context. Unlike anime, you don't necessarily watch what happens to your character on screen (or like in cartoons, where the voice comes first and then the context). People really need to learn the difference between poor direction and poor voice acting.

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>>372805927
Except that's now what he was saying at all, you dunce. Can you even read properly? Did you even read the entire article? There's more to translation than one-to-one transposition of words from one language into another. For games such as Vagrant Story, Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy XII, etc, the localization process affords more opportunities for a more authentic feeling which is something the original Japanese intrinsically lacks.

> USG: Let's get to the Japanese script. There seems to be a sentiment around the internet that the original script was fairly boilerplate by RPG standards. Was this true? Where did you start with adding your own spin to it?

Alex: As for the script being fairly boilerplate, I'd say yes and no. While the style of the writing is fairly modern and straightforward, the economy of dialogue, strong characters, and excellent pacing were really unusual for a Japanese script at the time, and are light on the ground even now. Part of the spin added came as a reaction to the rich setting of the game, not to fix any "shortcomings" in the script. If the setting is a pseudo-medieval European setting, while the Japanese language should stay fairly standard (there weren't many Japanese speakers in medieval Europe), the English really wants to at least nod its head toward that time. There are other things that English likes to do that Japanese doesn't that fit the setting as well: imagery in wordplay, for instance. An example from the game text has two soldiers talking about "magick."

SOLDIER A
そんなに簡単に使えるものなのか、
"魔法"ってヤツは?

SOLDIER B
…古代伝承学を信ずれば、
だれでも扱えるようにしたのが
"グリモア"ってことらしい。

A direct translation of these two lines would sound something like:

SOLDIER A
Is this "magic" stuff really that easy to use?

SOLDIER B
If you believe the studies of ancient legend, there were these "grimoires" that let anyone use it.

>>372806646
>Sa-KAH-moto
I don't understand this. It sounds like sah-kamoto to me.

>>372806997
This is exposition, sure, but couched convincingly in dialogue that helps build the characters of the two soldiers, so classic Matsuno. Good stuff, doesn't need any fixing.

The direct translation is fine too, really, very clear and doesn't stray from the intent or characters as presented in the Japanese, as long as we're just looking at the text. But consider the setting, and we start wanting the text to do a little more to flesh out our world in English.

Here's the final text:

SOLDIER A
...Swine'll take wing ‘fore the likes of us use magick, my friend.

SOLDIER B
Aye, but with a grimoire, your fattest sow could outfly my swiftest falcon—if ye believe the chroniclers.

All the information from the original text is there and the characters haven't changed significantly, but the window dressing has changed pretty dramatically in order to breathe some life into the period setting via the language.

You can call that "improving" on the original script, but the original was fine in Japanese—great, even. You could also call it giving it our own spin, or even needlessly embellishing, but everything in the English is directly inspired by the Japanese text and characters. At the end of the day, we just took what was there and did our best to write the way we would have expected to see in that story had it been originally written in English.

>>372806793
You missed the
>Second major
part, friend.
I'm not saying it will immediately get you hired, but knowing Spanish will open up many doors. Education, business, hospital work, etc.

>>372806832
Because it's called "hyperbole".

>>372806531

Sailor Moon was going to be made as a half live action teen sitcom, half new shitty american animation originally in the 90s. All because ANIME SURE IS WEIRD LOL.

>>372806997
>which is something the original Japanese intrinsically lacks.
kill yourself any time. thanks.

>>372806931
Best post in the thread.

>>372806196
The ironic tone of your post is uncalled for, because what you said is a fact.

>>372805927
>n example that comes to mind is the bestiary in Final Fantasy XII. Since we had the time, enthusiasm and carte blanche to do what we wanted with that, we rewrote it in the style of a Victorian era biological text.

Am I supposed to be mad about this? Because those bestiary entries were fucking fantastic. The localization in general was the single best part of FFXII.

>>372806645
I don't know why people fight over them so much
I just heard Atlus dubs actually have english VAs saying them which is just wrong
>>372806945
sometimes having to learn a language rigidly via rules makes you more easily triggered
at least I am every single time I see someone type "could of"

>>372807094
>SOLDIER B
>Aye, but with a grimoire, your fattest sow could outfly my swiftest falcon—if ye believe the chroniclers.

Jesus, that's literally shitty rewriting for no fucking reason.

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>>372807198
What, you're going to tell me that Japanese is capable of emulating early-modern English or any of the dialects of English that might've been spoken in such a setting or time period? The settings for Vagrant Story, Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy XII, etcx, are as far from Japanese as you can possibly get. If we were talking about a game that took place in modern day Japan you'd be totally right, but the settings and time periods of those games need to be taken into consideration during translation, considerations that can't be done in Japanese.

>>372797621
It's acceptable and perfectly readable unless you're a fucking ESL.
Kill yourself.

>>372799756
>visual novel
comic book

>Tfw there will never be silly subs like the old stuff ever again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEY2EcQeZY

For context, a hilariously terrible movie was made about how the protagonists saved the world in the show itself, and it was so over the top they gave it silly subs as well. The actual fights in Season 2 weren't nowhere near that over the top. They even replaced the pretty boy with a big black guy and the handsome man with a loli.

>>372806220
Who the fuck is Carl Masack? Robotech is objectively shit. I appreciate that it is a gateway to a love of mechs, though. I'm fine with anime existing in the west, but only if all casuals who ironically like anime die in the process.

Side note: I hate this dumb meme of using weeb as a derogatory word for people who like anime. I get that languages evolve, but the fact that "ironic weebs" exist, and use this term to refer to each other grinds my gears a little bit. Just why? I might just be an oldfag who prefers the original use of weaboo. This shit feels like when people call pizza, " 'Za ". It feels fucking wrong.

>>372807370
>I don't know why people fight over them so much

Honorifics are basically the dividing line between people who love anime and shit because it's Japanese, and people who love the same shit for other reasons. There is no possible reason to have honorifics in an English text except to make it sound Japanese.

>>372793712
Is "P5 dub is bad" a meme? Or am I missing something?

I'm 10 hours into the game so far and seeing no issues apart from the volume mixing of the anime cutscenes.

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>>372806913
I just have different standards I guess. I play lots of niche weebshit, something has to be really bad in order for my brain not to be able to make sense of it.

Play the game with JPN dub it works better. I guess AtlasUSA blew the budget on coke and whores.

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>>372806838
>he can't do both at the same time
It's okay, anon. We understand.

>>372793712
>Some weeb who does it for free is salty over not getting a job as translator.

Boy, I sure regret buying this game now

>>372807431
It gets the exact same message as the original across. The only difference is in the dressing. The dialogue was changed to be more appropriate to the setting.

>>372807538
It's more like "weeb" means slightly aggressive anime fan, but "weeaboo" specifically retains the original meaning of "OMGGGggg Nihon is the best America SUXXX anime is the truest form of ART"

>>372807649
Moogy-denka is currently working as a translator on as of yet undisclosed project.

>>372801562
kwsk

>>372806220
>if it were up to you nothing of substance would have came over here and anime in the west would have died in the early 90s and cartoons would be considered childrens material more than it already is

Kek, there was plenty of other anime brought over at the same time and even before, don't act as if Macek was the pioneer or anything.

>>372807334

>Am I supposed to be mad about this? Because those bestiary entries were fucking fantastic.

the weebshitters are just mad that they didn't translate it straight like a modern high school anime.

>>372807709
And my uncle works at Nintendo. Want a free Switch?

>>372800424
Pop culture is an export, hence this fucking board.

Anybody who consumes it can have an opinion.

I can't speak for the Japanese, but from what little I know, I think the average Japanese disdains the same things. The Japanese are often not very explicit about moral judgments on others or moral disgust, but if you know anything about the national character and ethic, you'd know that otaku are at best tolerated by the community. In reality, most Japanese think they're a blight on society, or that they are a symptom of a blight. Remember this is a culture that hinges entirely around work and conformity, where aging and birthrate decline is a front-line national issue that affects all Japanese people in part because young men are fucking pillows instead of making babies.

But I'm not Japanese, so what could I possibly know, all I can do is pick up a newspaper or read a book

Gas the hyper sensitive localization weeaboos, they deserve nothing
censor all their stupid fucking panties while you're at it

>P5 dub much better than P4 dub
>P5 gets dual audio
>suddenly weebs go full mass hysteria mode over the dub

>>372807094
My god that's awful. Damn right that's needlessly embellishing. A translation shouldn't make it more difficult to understand the story. Plus, it loses the original meaning because nowhere in the original text does it say that having a grimoire can let someone beat a natural user. It only says that anyone can use magic

>>372796671
>spanish
Useless unless you're working in an orchard picking apples.
>french
Might as well learn Canadian French then seeing how France is turning arabic.
>chinese
Only useful if you're high up enough in an international company that actually deals with Chinese companies.
>russian
Only useful if you're getting a mail order bride.

Literally everyone worth talking to knows English. Learning a second language if English is your main language is a waste of time and only serves as an excuse to feel smarter then others. Which makes you a hipster faggot.

>>372806387
Koji needs to tone it down, really.
He's been fucking up a lot recently because of him been too liberal with his TLs.
>put a story spoiler in a title
>"zhloe"

>>372807447
>The settings for Vagrant Story, Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy XII, etcx, are as far from Japanese as you can possibly get
They're high fantasy setting you imbecile, they're neither western nor eastern, you're literally pushing your own distorted fanfiction because you value those plated knights more than the ninjas that are in the same fucking games, debating on a "realistic" origin of language in fictionary, high fantasy worlds is fucking retarded and isn't part of the translation process, especially when the source material is written by a japanese person and is inherently shaped by the japanese language.

Why would I translate a russian cyberpunk with russian slang into american cyberpunk slang? Because Cyberpunk is somehow more "american" as a genre? Do you think italian translations of the Merchant of Venice or Romeo and Juliet change how character talks because the setting is Italian? No, they don't, you're fucking retarded just like that hack.

>>372807538

Carl Macek, THE guy behind Robotech. Pretty much the reason you watched anime back in the day because with his work at Harmony Gold, anime wouldn't have kicked off westward, Dragonball Z, would have never been given a chance due to the violence, and the rest is history. Sorry I spelled it incorrectly. Macross fans are STILL fanny flustered to this date that his "butchering" of their precious space drama still is more well known than the source material. Is Macross better than Robotech? Of course it fucking is but tell that to 10 year old you.

>>372807447
Your argument about using early-modern English only makes sense if the Japanese text uses early-modern Japanese. If the text is written in modern Japanese, like your example clearly shows, there is no reason why it should be translated to Old-English just because of the setting. No one does this to English works, it's just an excuse to add personal flair.

>>372808179
zhloe's not even his fault
with a last name like Aliapoh no one wouldn't have expected a japanese name pun

>>372807828
>Gas the hyper sensitive localization weeaboos

Agreed.

>censor all their stupid fucking panties while you're at it

OVER THE LINE
OVER THE FUCKING LINE

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I kind of expect and hope that Japanese characters in a Japanese game or movie might speak a little strangely. It's a foreign place with a foreign language; they don't express themselves exactly the way we do.

I don't want all the Japaneseness to be squeezed out of the dialogue. I'd much prefer some weird Japspeak to "American Teen" A, B or C. We've all seen games that have been TOO localized.

>>372807538
I remember back in the day when you saw actual weeaboos who thought Japan was this utopia land of golden PS3s running everywhere. I don't even use weeaboo as an insult anymore because it has lost all meaning.

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>>372799529
>mfw m room will never be that comfy because i don't have money to buy shit

>>372808109
>Plus, it loses the original meaning because nowhere in the original text does it say that having a grimoire can let someone beat a natural user

Translation implies nothing of the sort.

>>372808310
I watched Inuyasha and Death Note on YTV every night because they were cool shows, not because of this Carl Masack you're sucking off. No one fucked with the story, it was left as is but dubbed, and almost everyone in my area enjoyed those shows. Proof that no one needed people to meddle with the content to ensure cultural harmony or understanding, you bullshit artist. Anime didn't need Carl Masack

>>372808479
I remember /v/ hating P4 for all the -kun -san. What is the balance that /v/ will approve of?

>>372807753

>Kek, there was plenty of other anime brought over at the same time

and most of it was cheap violent schlock. I remember seeing straight up hentai in the Disney section at my West Coast Video back then. Considering how much of a big deal violent video games was during that time period with Mortal Kombat, Night Trap, etc and the formation of the ESRB anime dodged a fucking bullet by having this NOT happen to the wrong people. What do you think would have happened if a senator's kid "accidentally" rented La Blue Girl from the same shelves that had The Little Mermaid? Anime didn't have the foothold in the west video games didn't at the time. I wouldn't be surprised if america got xenophobic as fuck and just outright banned japanese animation from being aired or distributed just because of cherrypicked examples.

>>meme cartel on /v/
pls go and stay go

>>372808581
Excuse me, do you not see that it says "...your fattest sow could outfly my swiftest falcon—" or did you not actually understand the "better" translation? That's funny.

>>372808609

>underage

you were a sperm when the anime boom took off already. fuck off please.

>>372808343
Come on, don't tell me Koji isn't made aware of what's gonna happen next or what characters are gonna be introduced later.
I hope he's in direct contact with the people in charge of that, asks questions and adapts his TLs using whatever he was answered, which I'm sure he is

>>372808479

If a Japanese person, both in-game and the Japanese audience, doesn't think the dialogue is strange then an English speaker finding the dialogue strange is a poor translation. Changing the tone of the work from "sounds normal" to "strange" is by definition bad. Play the original if you want to feel alienated.

>>372807934
What are you talking about? The dub was shitted on long before dual audio was confirmed.

>>372806652
yes, it's literally okay when Godbert does it