Mega Man Thread

>>362966767
You're pretty much on point with that honestly.

Classic>Zero=>X>ZX=Legends>BN>SF

That said, X1 is actually my favorite

>>362966767
X>Zero>ZX>Starforce>Battle Network>Classic

To be honest i never liked original megaman. X made me feel free with how fast you could move around.

Haven't played Legends to have an opinion on it.

After MN9 flop, do you think it was the right decission for Capcom to cancel MML3?

>>362966767
Classic>ZX>Legends>Zero>X

Barely touched BN and have never touched SF so I wouldn't feel right ranking them.

Classic > X >= Legends > ZX > Zero

Haven't played any Starforce and nowhere near enough BN to make a fair judgement.

Anyone who puts X as a whole above Classic or Zero is a goddamn swine.
>>362967248
This guy has the right idea mostly. Personally I like BN more than Legends or ZX.

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That's the same way I'd rank it OP, except I'd put Battle Network above ZX. Not that any on the bottom are bad, Capcom simply made really good games at that time.

>>362968813

I don't really care much for Zero's style in general. That said, X is indeed very inconsistent as a whole.

>>362966767
>Classic
I'm only familiar with 1-6 and all of those are great titles even if they feel kinda stale on the later games the core gameplay is always good enough to be at least a way above average action-platformer. I'm not too familiar with 7 and 8 but 7 wasn't that bad as some people say for me, just a bit bland and I haven't finished 8 yet but some levels feel a bit boring and sliding sucks without upgrades. Rockman and Forte was good too but kinda bullshit in terms of difficulty in a few places, haven't played 9 and 10 yet.
>Zero
Moving your character around never felt this good in any other MM series in my opinion, overall they're great but the small screen size leads to a lot of cheap moments specially in the first game making some of the challenge more about memorization than actual skill.
>X
The first two title are excellent, the rest range from good to terrible. I haven't played X4 in a while so maybe that one is just as good as the first two.
>ZX
Only played the first one, overall a good game but most of the time I didn't see too much of the appeal in the new mechanics so it just felt like a lesser Zero title with less challenge.

I'm playing the first BN and Legends right now, they seem ok so far but nothing truly great has happened at the moment. Haven't played any Starforce yet either.

I always wonder how X never gets spooked about every Reploid ever made being based on his designs.

>>362969284
Maybe most of the world isn't aware of this, otherwise almost everyone would treat him like a special snowflake instead of a B-range hunter. I'm a bit rusty on my MM lore so maybe I'm wrong.

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Zero is my favorite series too. I just wish they didn't remove EX Skills in the hard modes, because the game is actually at its absolute best when you've got the large range of abilities available for navigating levels. Zero's hard mode felt a lot like buster only in X series, things just take longer and not necessarily challenging or strategic.

>>362969420
>I just wish they didn't remove EX Skills in the hard modes, because the game is actually at its absolute best when you've got the large range of abilities available for navigating levels.
Same. They should've made two different modes, one in which you can only use the basic moveset and a hard more in which you can still use them.

>>362966767
>Zero
Good lenght, high quality, dynamic, consistent quality.
>Legends
Short, extra comfy, a bit odd at first but ends up addictive as hell, some terrible fuck up in game design with the second game.
>X
Overstayed its welcome for much too long, quality drops massively after the two first game and quality control gets terrible during the Sony era.
>ZX
A lesser, gimmicky Zero.
>Classic
Simple and fun, kinda redundant.
>Battle Network
Overstayed its welcome, highly redundant, quite fun when its not desperate trying to pad the games to increase final playtime just for the sake of it.
>Starforce
Don't know.

>>362969115
>I haven't played X4 in a while so maybe that one is just as good as the first two
It's nowhere close the original two.

>>362968726
play megaman denuvo

>>362969115
>>362969793
I love MMZ too, not a big fan of how some mechanics like the elfs and forms were integrated but all the basics feel absolutely great.

Does every MM thread have to be a fucking cockfight? I like them all just about the same.

Except Classic, that shit only had three good games and you mouthbreathing posers keep putting it above anything else in the series.

>>362971112

>Does every MM thread have to be a fucking cockfight?
>Except Classic, that shit only had three good games

Yes, it does.

>>362971112
>that shit only had three good games
>2
>3
>4
>9

But that's 4.

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>>362971438
>4
>good

I give you 10 seconds to retract your statement before I beat you up for having such a shitty opinion.

>>362971517

what's bad about it? I thought it was generally accepted to be pretty good

>>362971112
Even the "bad" classic MM titles are still miles above half of X titles, 4 5 6 and seven were only bland but not bad games by any means to begin with.

>>362971848

>And seven
MM7 was just bad. Somewhere in between the boredom of X5 and the frustration of X6.

>>362971112
How are most of the classic titles bad? Redundant yes, but the majority are still pretty enjoyable if you aren't marathoning the series.

>>362971793
Since when? It loves throwing bullet sponge enemies at you which kills the pacing, the soundtrack is unmemorable and the stages tend to drag on too long.

>>362971848
4 was bland. 5, 6 and 8 were definitely bad, as bad as X5, X6 and X7.

And comparing the series based on their bad games is stupid tbqh famalam. Especially when Classic has nothing to compete with the SNES X games.

>>362972003

>as bad as X7.
don't just throw that shit around faggot

>>362972042
ok my bad

>>362971896
I don't remember shitty rng endings, bike stages, pointless rescuable reploids and utterly shit nightmare systems like in those games. So yeah, 7 is still above those.

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>mfw first time S Rank

>>362971996
>Redundant

To be fair MM's model basically makes making a longer game pretty much impossible (unless you want a Wily Castle that dwarfs the actual game) so they just made a bunch of small ones instead. It took until Zero for them to somehow stretch out 16 levels to several hours.

>>362972003
>5, 6 and 8 were definitely bad, as bad as X5, X6 and X7.
How exactly?

>>362972161

Who drew this?

>>362972003
The only excellent X titles for snes were 1 and 2, X3 is filled with uninspired level design and some of the power ups are shit, same or worse tier than MM 5 or 6.

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>>362972371

a big Ciel fan

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>>362966767
X>Legends>BattleNetwork=Classic>ZX=Zero>StarForce

>>362968867
Fat tits.

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>>362972509

Yes, who?

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>>362972580

>>362972705

those aren't even tiddies, just balloons on her chest

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>>362972673

Beats me

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Favorite Megaman track?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDks7CMwMbI

>>362972003
>Especially when Classic has nothing to compete with the SNES X games.
How? Classic has less mechanics but most of the time the level design feels focused enough so that all the basic things you can do have an important purpose and require thought or dexterity to be cleared without being hit often. X 1 and 2 aren't bad in that regard but sometimes just dashing and shooting charge shots will solve most problems without the need to think carefully how you'll avoid the attacks or enemies. MMX 1 and 2 are great but the best classic titles are focused enough in their basic mechanics to be great in their own way, while X feels faster but sometimes the challenge is more bland.

>>362972971
My nigga.

>>362972003
>It loves throwing bullet sponge enemies at you which kills the pacing
If it's a challenge then the pacing isn't killed. Most of those enemies don't resist more than 6 charged shots to begin with. I'll give you that the OST is weaker but I really don't see your point in terms of level design considering that some stages like Pharaoh Man's end quicker than the average stage in 2 or 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9jkuczzRU&t=11s
>>362972971

>>362972003
>the stages tend to drag on too long.
Most last around 4~ or less, this isn't Unlimited and it was probably made because the charge shot made destroying enemies faster so the levels needed to be longer and use more sub bosses to avoid making things too easy.

>>362972971

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVGLWZoTxME

>>362971793
Typical retard who thinks that if it's not among the best then it's immediately shit. 4 might be inferior to the top tier titles but is by no means a bad game, calling it good isn't wrong at all.

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>>362973904
>>362973995
>>362974087

Why bother torturing a reploid when you can just reprogram it?

>>362974123
This.

>>362974123

Weren't all the ZX MCs besides Grey human?

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>>362974227

Yeah, but they all have reploid parts.

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>>362974123

Why not both?

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>>362974371

Looks like /mmg/ is here. Guess the thread is over.

>>362974453

I have no idea what's going on

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Do you guys think ZX was sort of trying to be a 2D Legends game? Like how all the levels are connected as one big map.

Or perhaps it was just imitating Zero 1's style.

>>362974640

I think it was trying to be more like Metroid.

Except it sucked at it and pushed it back for Advent.

I still think it could have worked if it weren't for the mission system making it a total pain and the map being useless

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>ZX
>Zero
>Legends
>X
>Classic
>Battle Network
>Starforce

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>>362974721

Yeah if it were better organized, I'd list it as a favorite, it's just an okay game otherwise

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For anyone who has yet to see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnQ1MDxNKrQ

Inticreates music team performed live at Magfest 2016. Mostly Zero tracks, with a bit of classic and ZX too.

Their volume setting doesn't seem optimized until about halfway through the third song.

I'd like Zero more if using elves didn't permanently tank your rating. It's not fun to go out of your way for powerups and then not even be able to use them.

>>362974958
I never did the rankings...then they made it so you need them to unlock minigames. Fug.

Though I think 4 made it less retarded somehow.

This series needed more female bosses.

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>>362975518

It needed more female protagonists.

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>>362975518

I would like a MM Classic game that has Roll as a playable character.

She would basically be the classic version of Zero, except she uses a broom, and learns EX Skills of that, instead of getting new weapons like X.

>>362975941

>What is Megaman Powered Up

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>>362976074

wow they actually did it already. I guess I'll give it a shot. Never had the chance to get into PSP and its library

>>362976432

You might also wanna check out Maverick Hunter X.

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>>362976463

I did manage to find and play that while browsing the shop in Vita. It's nice that they added in a Vile mode, but I find X's game more enjoyable in the original.

>>362975518
Yeah, they got that pretty late into the GBA games, leaving Classic and X mostly all male (I mean, what bosses other than Splashwoman and Berkana are girls there). BN kind of got around reusing robot master as navis by giving some of them female operators, but we really only started getting proper female bosses from Zero 4 and ZX/SF

>>362977071
Just a reminder the Polar Bear is a grill.

I think she's the only one though. All the judges are actually male, even the two girly ones

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>>362977228

At least Zero 4 put in the butterfly boss and that drill flower boss, they just didn't go out of the way to make them look female in a humanoid way.

>>362977553
The butterfly is cute.

>>362979093
The flower was cute too, I mean she wasn't humanoid in any way but the way she talks is really cute. Something about her design is also kinda cute for me too but then again I'm a weird robofucker.

>>362977071
Specially in X, there isn't a single one among the "8 bosses", in classic we eventually had Splashwoman but again in 10 all the bosses were male.
>>362977228
>>362977553
Personally I liked how they handled female bosses in Zero and ZX, Sol Titanion and Noble Mandrago are feminine but not in a way in which it feels like it betrays the aesthetic of the bosses by trying to make them look to cute in a human way. The polar bear on the other hand, the only way to find out is by reading it online or if you research about the lore of the creature she represents.

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Going on a year and a half now

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>>362980530

It's amazing how far the bar continues to be raised with Megaman X speed runs. Having said that, I think the game is overrated.

>>362980125
>Personally I liked how they handled female bosses in Zero and ZX, Sol Titanion and Noble Mandrago are feminine but not in a way in which it feels like it betrays the aesthetic of the bosses by trying to make them look to cute in a human way. The polar bear on the other hand, the only way to find out is by reading it online or if you research about the lore of the creature she represents.

Yeah I liked that too, they were focused more on the theme of those particular bosses and their environments, rather than full out sexualize them.

Hmm, kinda hard put the entire series in a rank, so I will put my favorit games in a kind of an order.

X > Z3> ZX > Z4> ZXA > X2 > MM4 > MM6. I don't care about Legends, SF or EXE.

>>362971517

I love me some slide and charge shot. The music is very, very good, the robot masters are nice (except Toad and Dust, but Dust's theme is rad as fuck), 2 castles. It's pretty good, anon.

>>362972971

Jesus anon, so many good tracks on this game and you pick the least good? Lemme fix it with the best boss theme in the series of all time. ALL TIME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiANryc2ujo

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>>362981997

Falling Down is... okay, but yeah the game has great tracks, I think the variations of Esperanto are clever, since they help keep the theme of hope and salvation consistent through the story.

Actually, I think this is another of my favorites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncaKlVhbUtY

>>362982618

Esperanto is fucking good, indeed. It's really impressive what they could do on the shitty GBA chip. Even Castlevania remixing their good tunes aren't really good on the GBA like MMZ4 with its OST.

ZX's ost is great too. Mountain Pass, GGG and Wonder Panorama are my top 3 on this game. The only area without decent music is H, the rest, fucking glorious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1MYktq7Lhs

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When I was a kid and before having played any of the games, a family friend gave me a bunch of little figurines of robot masters and characters from X series.

I used to think Zero was the main hero of this series, because he had blue hair, blonde hair, red color scheme and a sword, and thought X was his rival or something.

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>>362982884

They did a nice live version of Wonder Panoroma at Magfest last year (from 21 minute mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnQ1MDxNKrQ

I was especially fond of Trap Factory, but honestly, this entire performance was a treat

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>>362983067

>play X4
>tfw finally able to select the character for entire game

and honestly X's armaments were so uninteresting in that game, even worse than X3 weapons

>>362977071
When I was younger I used to think that Morph Moth was a girl.

>>362982884

>It's really impressive what they could do on the shitty GBA chip.
The GBA doesn't have any dedicated sound hardware (besides the ancient GB/C stuff), so the music was mostly done by the main CPU. CPU-heavy games like Megaman Zero suffered while slower games like JRPGs could often get much better.

The DS collection of the Zero games had much better sound quality. The DS contains the GBA CPU, but now it's twice as fast and used only for sound and some other peripheral functions.

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>>362966767
>tfw I only played Starforce
It's a pretty good game though. Geo is a solid mc and the supporting cast was decent. The battle system does feel limit because of the 3 squares you can move on but the lock on system and later the noise system are really good

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hi

>>362969793
>Battle Network
>Overstayed its welcome
Man, fuck you.

>>362985452
pretty decent

>>362985571

There's fucking six of them, at least.

>>362983690
I liked soul body
And charged soul body was useless but still a fun gimmick

I like Mega Man 8, AMA

>>362985669
Six games is nothing.

At least BN ended.

>>362985762

Nothing to ask. Was better than 5, 6 or 7.

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>>362985669
>10 Classic games not counting all the spin-offs and remakes is okay
>6 BN games plus 2 or 3 spins offs is too much
Alright Captain Cocksucker, you got a bite. Now go fish somewhere else.

>Mega Man 1-6 ported to mobile
>they're all absolutely terrible
>missing assests, terrible frame rate, horrible controls and hit boxes

kek capcom. never change

>>362985954

6 entries in a spinoff franchise is nothing to scoff at. It's not even like you're asking for ZX3.

>>362986092
I'd be asking for a 7th BN and a 3rd ZX if you wanna really wanna touch that topic but BN got the pleasure of ending on a good note while ZX got a ending what would equal to dangling a bag of soap powder over a crackhead. It just ain't right.

>>362985830
many people tend to disagree. I always see 8 get called the worst ebcause of "muh voice acting" or "muh physics" or "I dont like that squeaky jumping sound"

>>362986309
thats more because the BN series actually ended, ZX didn't.

BN, Zero and Star Force are the only 3 Megaman series to have a somewhat concrete ending.

Classic series is still open ended, X series is still open ended, Legends and ZX are still open ended.

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>>362966767
Fact.

Toru Nakayama needs to do more work for companies.

Doing doujins...he's wasting himself here and there to be honest.

>>362986510
>muh physics
???

But 8's physics were fine.

>>362986670
Wouldn't really say SF had a concrete ending and more like it got axed. The first game was utter shit, the second was less shit but shit is still shit and the third game finally got its act together but people had already given up on SF which is no surprised because really. The stories aren't really anything too interesting and that nigga Geo and his pup are a low tier Megaman. Really, what a shitty ass design straight out of DA. Despite everything 2 and 3 post game plots are pretty great just from their concepts alone especially 3 which could best be summed up as stop the manchild with the power to kill us all.

>>362986880
Sliding was slower than usual without upgrades, but aside from that the physics weren't all that different.

>>362987486
>Wouldn't really say SF had a concrete ending and more like it got axed.
well kid got his dad back, even if it was just axed, thats a fine note to leave the series on.

>>362986698
Yeah I agree, his art-style and designs can look really great, he should work on more games or something.

>>362972971
Tornado Man
Sky Lagoon (X)
Theme of Zero
Trap Phantasm
Flutter Vs The Gesellschaft
You Can't Go Back
Vs.Crimson Dragon

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>>362989503
Indeed.

Zero and ZX looked nice, but a 3D game with his art would rock hard.

Also he's a massive Toku fan, so would like to see one day a animated short done with his art.

Kamen Rider would be sweet.