This card ruined PC gaming forever >cheap as hell >uses

>>324455567
Damn, that card is almost 40% faster than my current card and it's over 50% more energy efficient.

>>324455567
But that card came out in 2014 and PC has been full of meme spouting master race faggot long before than

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>>324455567
Nah senpai, this was the one that opened the shit gates.

>>324455567
it was the gtx560ti actually

>>324455567
too bad the 970 is the most popular gpu on steam

>>324456358
This.

The 560ti/8800 are better examples

>>324456454
The 8800 was a great card for awhile.

>>324456675
The fuck are you talking about, I also had a 560ti and it was awesome in its time.

>>324456454
>had 3 of those melt in the same year
That was a bad year. Went Radeon for a long while after that. Gotta say, those cards never failed me. Back on Nvidia now and with all the random bullshit that happens with these cards. Damn shame AMD doesn't make very powerful cards. They sure are reliable.

How much power does it use exactly?

>>324456675
the 560ti was literally a flawless card

-cheap
-good performance
-compatible with everything including paper clips and string
-widely available

I never fell for the 560ti meme but I regret that every day of my life, friendo

>>324456642
550ti/650ti*

>>324456808
>AMD doesn't make very powerful cards

what planet do you live on nigga

>>324455567
>GTX 750ti
>released in 2014
>made pc gaming a meme
>OP confirmed for 2 years old

Fucko, I was running an ATI 4850 when Yellow Britstralian started the Mustard Race meme back in 2008.

>>324455567
Best selling PC games:
Minecraft
WoW
Terraria
Diablo 3

Yea, I'm sure it was a cheap graphics card that opened the floodgates.

I think I've got a 660ti from half a decade ago.
I had no idea what Iwas buying, is it a shit card?

>>324457125
i still have a 660ti and it's a great card. still runs everything fine. also, it's only about three years old.

>>324457003
I mean, they don't make cards as versatile/powerful as nvidia cards, which is true.

>>324457125
660ti was best card for the money 3-4 years ago only got knocked out by 760 releasing

It's half as fast as a Fury at 1080p and half as fast as a fury is still pretty fast

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>>324457284

Yes they don't have the worlds fastest GPU by a hair,

but its not like they are lagging behind NVidia, the big Maxwell is just a little faster

I have a 760 and don't get the whole buy the fastest GPU thing, I'm gonna get the best 250-300$ GPU next Christmas either the next X60 NVidia gpu or the X70 or X80 AMD GPU that competes with it

>>324457113
Don't try performing voodoo truth-seeing by fiddling in your shit next time.

I recommend smoking a running car's exhaust pipe.

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>mfw I have a GTX 950

>>324457582
980ti is the same price as the fury x and is 14% more powerful. That's a bit more than a hair.

>>324457810
Fury X performs better in DX12, though that's not a relevant point at this current moment in time.

The two companies are actually about the same and it doesn't really matter which one you pick.

>that feel when I bought an R9 290x on sale a few months ago for around 350 Kangaroo Dollars (currently worth like 65 Americents each, fuck the exchange rate)
>that feel when the 390 series came out almost immediately after for about $200 more

I don't know if I made the right choice or not. Then again, I don't even run the thing at full blast because I was sick of the fan noise, and it still gives 60fps in anything. I'm just salty over numbers.

is the 7970 still a good card?

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>There are "people" on /v/ RIGHT NOW who spent more than 500 fucking dollarinos on a graphics card

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>>324458098
Yep, its called the 280X now

see>>324457582


Isn't the fastest thing in the world but it no slouch

>>324455567
an HD 7970 is good too and is very cheap.
also you can play the witcher maxed at 55 fps.

>>324458268
I did

>>324458268
yeah, but this is at 150 dollars.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VisionTek-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-900491-3-GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-Express-3-0-x16-/331755750453?hash=item4d3e2f0435:g:3EQAAOSw5dNWktd5

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>>324455567
>tfw you are the main demographic for PC software, and by the time software is optimized for 4 GB cards, they'll be more efficient, cheaper, and not 3.5 GB scam cards

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>decide to build a "mid range" PC
>fell for the 750 ti meme card
>1080p and meme framerate impossible on new games
>every new release will run worse
>mfw "everything runs fine on my rig:^)" faggots with much worse cards

Loving every laugh, now I'm stuck with either having a really shitty experience or having to spend $300 on a single component. Fuck this PC meme.

>>324458569
>ref cooler
holy fuck I hope you didn't buy this

>>324458636
r9 290 can be had for under $200 and can max every game that isn't unoptimized dog shit

>>324455567
>third-world shitskins

That's very rude, you should apologize.

>>324456454
That card was in the first system I built myself. That and a Core 2 Duo E6600. And now I just fucking realized my current system also has a 6600 in it. Just replacing the E before with a k after.

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>>324458268
I did and my games ran like shit and I don't know why to this day, I bought arkham city for 100 australian dollarinos when it launched to test my card and it took me 2 days to download on my internet through steam

never again will I fall for the cutting edge PC gaming meme

>>324458358
But you need a good PSU to handle that card though.

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>>324458268

>I spent 450$ on a GTX 770 2-3 weeks before 970 released at the same price

kill me

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>>324458636
>>324458742
The 750 ti can run anything!

fucks like this that don't know how to work a settings menu are whats killing the industry

I played Arkham Knight and Witcher 3 on a 560ti :^)

>>324458636
I love those people though.

>Pfft my 670 is still going strong, i can max out Witcher 3 1080p ultra at 60fps

Stupid question but is a GTX 960 better than the GTX 750 Ti?

>>324455567
The 7750 already did what the 750ti does now way before it but okay retard.

Protip: mudshit steambabbies existed long before either of those video cards, on laptops.

>>324459148
Absolutely. It costs more too though.

>>324459148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vVTUCuYeQ

>>324459148
Only very slightly. Better of getting 970

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>>324459105
>I fell for these fucking memes

>>324459293
Better off waiting for 20nm cards, they will blow them out of the water

>>324458742

I heard the exact same thing when I got a 750. PC gaming isn't worth shit if you can't get your hands on a $300 card. The 980, a fucking $600 card is already struggling with most recent games when played at meme settings. A r9 290 won't last more than one year, especially with VR around the corner.

>>324458960
>I played Arkham Knight and Witcher 3 on a 560ti :^)
I'm sure you did buddy. It ran perfectly at 720p low and with drops.

>The 750 ti can run anything!
Only people saying that are faggots who only ever play assfaggots and counterstrike with the occasional flavour of the month toaster friendly meme game.

>>324459148
yes but it's way too expensive for what you get
amd currently destroys nvidia at every price point except for the very tip top range

>>324459364
14/16 FF*

>>324458898
>$450 on a 770
Jesus christ, what a fucking ripoff.
Even the fucking 280x which outperforms the 770 in a lot of games nowadays launched at like $300-$350.
Nowadays the 280x is like $180-$200.

>Cheap and effective
>Ruined PC gaming
What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>324459321
It's okay, you have learned your lesson. You will never be meme'd again.

>>324459293
>actually suggesting a bro should get a 970
You are the worst kind of scum

>>324459458
Living in Brazil is like living in a bizarro world, Nvidia cards are usually way cheaper than AMD around here.

>>324459364
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-trouble/

>>324459553
Because some idiots didn't buy the 2GB model or bought another card that performed worse for more money

>>324459462
Yeah im a fucking idiot, I can't get used to the fact that 20nm bombed and still think that's the next stepping.

>>324459410

Look a 750ti will play games identically to PS4, not meme settings, but most games are easily played with it, if it has a PS4 release it will work.

>>324459410
>at meme settings
opinion discarded

>>324458898
I bought a 290 for $240 on black Friday in 2014 The card is strangely worth more today than what i payed for it..

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>>324458636
The 750ti is still a decent GPU, I think the issue is that you can't into options customization.
My 280x runs most games well even at 1440p.
Hell, I can run Crysis 3 on high at 1440p60 unless there are a lot of particle effects on-screen (in which case the lowest drop I've seen has been to ~40 FPS).
In MP is basically a constant 60 FPS at 1440p on most maps aside from the penn depot.

>>324459624
euroland is the same way

>>324456454
Dude what.
My bro uses the 8800GT on his computer without RAM and still plays Red Dragon.

>>324455567
im on a i7 920 oc'd to 3.9 ghz because my D0 cpu just can't stabilize past 4. On a 560 ti oc'd i get medium settings on Fallout 4. Medium on Witcher 3. Medium on bf4 with steady 150+ fps.

>/v/ makes threads for years talking about how easy and affordable it is to get into pc gaming
>people do it
>get mad

you're all retards t b h f a m

>>324460043
>Medium on bf4 with steady 150+ fps.
You must play at some shit-tier resolution like 1440x900 or 720p.

>>324459675
You really need those ultra settings that look only marginally better than normal but drain 200% computing power?

>>324459673
Not entirely true. I tried playing Arkham Knight with it and anything above Low settings turns the game into a slideshow when something is going on screen. PS4 version looks significatively better and runs at much more stable framerate. This game is mostly an exception but yeah, if the games are going to look and run the same I'd rather play on console, at least I get a physical copy, don't have to deal with bullshit and the games have proper trophies support.

>>324460312
>and the games have proper trophies support.
Aww shit, here we go.

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>>324460103
how was I supposed to know that it was all a cruel meme, huh? why would anyone lie about it, huh?

maybe I thought something good would happen in my life for once

maybe I watched some videos showing off graphics mods running smoothly and I believed people who told me putting together a PC is like legos and they get a buttery smooth framerate with no techanical issues on ultra in every game on a budget card

was I so wrong to have hope for once in my life, huh?

>>324460312
>meme settings
>meme
>settings
shocking that you don't even realize how much of a fucking moron this makes you sound

>>324460312
AK is a really bad example and you have a point, I'm not right that every game with a PS4 version will work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzvjjdXzyVs

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>>324456454
>had an 8800 GTS 512MB back in the day
>we're at minimum 4gb+ for vram

jesus christ guys..time just flies by. what did i even do with my life?

>>324460103
Well what are you expecting from the PCucks they are the most elitist cunts here even when they had nothing to do but playing literally who indie pixel shit,steam avatars/hardware circlejerks and shitpost here

>>324456454
I love this card. Had the 9800 x2. Ran great.

>>324460617
>and they get a buttery smooth framerate with no techanical issues on ultra in every game on a budget card
Kek, I blame you for falling for obvious lies.

>>324458797
You probably have 2 gigs of ram and a 32bit os you dumb frogposter.

>>324456916
Sure, but I sticked with my HD2400 until I finally got my GT 530
>Mfw now playing in 4K with Titan X

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Im now pc master race hehe

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>>324461260

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There's something I never understood. Why do you PC fanboys always have to lie so much about PC gaming?

>you lie about how "cheap" it is
>lie about how "easy" it is
>lie about how "convenient" it is
>lie about the "games" it has

Do you do it from sheer adoration for your fat jew overlord or is nvidia/amd paying you to shill on /v/ and plebbit?

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>>324460953
I had 8g of ram and 64bit win7

I'd freeze all the time, especially going in and out of doors as well as getting a shit framerate

my card wasn't too hot either

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>tfw still with R9 270
>tfw poorfag, so can't upgrade

>>324457924
>Fury X performs better in DX12

Might as well perform better in alternate universes as well, because that's just as relevant to gaming today as DX12 performance.

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>>324461369
>Mfw I have that exact same keyboard

>>324461442
Can you state actual examples of those lies?

>>324458898
>Got a 780Ti Windofrce X3 for 250 €
>Sold my 680 for 150 €
290X is currently the best price/performance card

>>324460617
>ultra in every game on a budget card
I don't know why they would tell you that.

Though, if you got a 750ti or better, then you still have enough gpu power to run any multiplat game that's released this console gen.
And you do have the option to increase the frame rate at the cost of some visual quality. I wish I could do that on consoles too.

>shills the thread

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/wTp9TW/500-beginner-gaming-pc-great-1080p-gaming-january-2016

>>324461442
>factually wrong
kek, I'll respond again if you improve your lies

>Idiots buy a $100 GPU
>Expect it to max out modern games at 1080p60
>Do literally 0 research
>Complain when it can't max out games at 1080p60
Full retard.

>>324455567
No it didn't, you retard.

So the best option is build a pc for shitposting+porn and a console for gaming? How much would it cost?

>>324460103
>current year
>still believes /v/ is one person

baka desu senpai

>>324460708
did a nerve of yours got hit?

>>324461450
>I had 8g of ram and 64bit win7
>I had
What happened to it?

What gpu did you have?
It could have been an issue that was fixed in a driver update. Did you update your video drivers?
There are even some cases where drivers can make a card perform worse in older games.

>>324460237
Nah, I have a 560ti with barely 1gb of vram.

FO4 on medium, BF4 on high, haven't played witcher 3.

Its showing its age now but its a great card. The only thing that really fazes it for some reason is Cities Skylines

>>324462272
It can still still run those games at 1080p60 at better settings than consoles, just nor maxed out
But people like to complain I guess

>>324461442
Your mind just works backwards. You see someone lie, and then you count them as "one of us", whatever that means. So you make it true yourself.

>>324462049
Shilling for who?
PC is not a company, like sony, microsoft and nintendo.

How do I get off my lazy ass and get a job?
I'm tired of running a shitty HD6670 for years now but I have literally zero experience doing anything and am a social retard to top it off. I don't even know what to put on a CV when I'm such an unremarkable person.

I won't kill myself, before you say.

This year during Black Friday after doing a lot of research I got a 750ti. Best card that fits in my small form factor case and gets enough power from my 240w psu. It performs damn good for what it is.

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>>324462568
nothing, I still have those things but at the time of arkham city's release that's what I had then too

I had a gtx580 3gb (I know it's meme, everywhere was out of the card I wanted so I went one up for the meme card). I tried multiple driver versions

piece of shit, fucking pc gaming

>>324460617
>memememememememe meme meme meme

Can you kill yourself or at least learn what settings are and what they do before you post please?

>>324462750
Don't you know? Any mention of a product made by a large corporation is considered shilling on /v/, no matter the context.

>>324462758
put together a CV/Resumé
apply to places
dress and look smart for the interview
be confident and forthcoming
get job

simple, anon

>>324463018
Yeah, but the PC as a whole is not a product made by one gigantic company

>>324460656
next gen hits probably sometime this year with 8GB and 16GB vram

4GB will remain standard for a while but it's a year or 2 from retirement

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>>324461817
From personal experience.

>>you lie about how "cheap" it is
I'm not going to mention the embarassing "$400 console killer" because we both know it's bullshit. Let's assume you want a decent PC that will run everything and have a $550 budget.

>$560 PC
Now what you plug it into your TV?
>$180 monitor
You gonna use telepathy?
>$30 K+M
Can't hear shit captain.
>$40 speakers
You gonna sit on that kitchen chair for several hours?
>$60 desktop chair


>>lie about how "easy" it is
You are going to encounter lot of issues, while building and then go though lot of bullshit. It takes a whole afternoon to build and set up everything. You also have to take care of your PC over the years/months.

>>lie about how "convenient" it is
Troubleshooting, adjusting settings, dealing with bullshit is common.

>>lie about the "games" it has
Everyone is playing Dota 2 and CS. Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators. The only relevant games are basically broken console ports I could already play on console.

The only positive about PC gaming is 6th gen emulation. But that still has it's flaws.

>>324462993
the 580 served my friend well until he got a 980.
Should've been a workhorse man. Oh well.
Honestly I really liked that generation. 7970 was the shit and nvidia had some nice cards too.

What a time to live in though. Now the 950 is piss cheap for the kind of performance you're getting. Can absolutely smoke an Xbone and PS4.

>>324463197
Nvidia is.

>>324462616
bullshit I have a 650 OC 2GB and it only runs Fo4 on medium at sub 30fps in many locations at 95%+ usage

>>324463040
What do I put in my CV when I have no accomplishments though? I'm still in college so at most I have highschool passed and that's it.
Never had other jobs to pad it either.

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My 980ti identifies as an attack helicopter

>>324463271
>including a $60 desk chair in the price
Don't forget that you need at least a $200 couch for consoles

>>324462419
You can get a $300 laptop for porn and shitposting and a $300 PS4. It would cost roughly the same amount as 1 (ONE) single PCuck machine equiped with a meme card and coupons for butthurt.

You will be able to play all the multiplats +all the good exclusives on PS4, and all the PC exclusive meme games on your laptop.

>>324463271
PC has a fuckload of good games are you high?
Basically the entire Xbox 360 library is there. New releases always have ports if not dedicated. And like you said, emulation is great.
I play melee on emulator and it's almost flawless.
>1080p resolution
>anti aliasing so no jagged edges
>no frame drops like there were occasionally on gamecube(fountain of dreams- four player, etc)
>custom hacks and mods
Dude it's great.

Steam is also incredible too. Much easier to manage than Xbone libraries which takes the worst from both worlds. It installs the game to the harddrive and takes up a shitload of space but you still need the physical CD to play.

It's honestly worth it. Imo

Still have my 7970 from 3 years ago i think.

Fucking recks all games and didnt even cost much when it came out.

Still a 1080p fag though so maybe thats why

>>324463453
amd what does Nvidia make? Do they make central processors, do they make motherboard PCBs? Do they make cases? No? Fuck off, then

>>324462993
I've had two gtx 580s myself. They were okay and ran hot as hell compared to later cards
I think faulty drivers killed both of them.

They should still be stronger than this console gen, which is pretty good for a gpu released in 2010

Do you not get decent framerates in modern games with your card?

>>324463213
>1080Ti
>16GB VRAM
>most people are still playing in 1080p

>>324463642
I like higher resolutions but honestly this whole bullshit about 4k is a meme I think.

Go with a nice 1080p monitor with a good screen type.

I have an Asus that runs at 144hz with 1ms input lag gray-to-gray scaling. It's fucking fantastic. A proper replacement for any CRT.

>>324457665
What a waste, should have gotten a 960 at least

>>324463683
What point are you even trying to prove here? I don't get your point. They're still a corporation, and they exist.

>>324463564
Place yourself in the shoes of a normal individual. You have a small apartment, a couch to sit on and a TV. When you decide to build a PC chances are you don't have a chair made for comfortable sitting for prolonged time.

>>324456916
I still have my 560ti and im not upgrading until next year after 5 years of having it, this card is a beast.

>>324463534
How are you supposed to set that up if you run a 120 for your cpu as well? Back slot is taken, front slots are too cramped and the side doesn't have the clearance on any but the most fucking massive of cases. Drop it on the bottom behind the PSU?

>>324463530
Depends on what you wanna do, do some projects, work on open source software, go volunteer, stuff like that looks great on CVs.

>>324463271
>180$ monitor
So TV's are free? Same as for consoles
>30$ kb+m
Literally another controller that's better for most games+ if you really don't care you can use a shitty work one and just set up a controller which you seem to already own
>40$ speaker
You don't need them, most monitor have them, same with TV's
>60$ desktop chair
You don't have too, I'll sit on my couch or just a regular wooden chair, I've got great posture so it's fine on the wooden chair

>issues
Had 1 minor issue with my build, took 5 minutes to solve

>conviencie
99% of the time your fine, although some stuff is a bitch

>games
You don't have to play those meme games, it's just a shame a chunk of the community has autism. Doesn't stop me from playing obscure shit.

PC Master Race is a definite meme.

Like parallel universes.

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>>324458797
>>324462993
>GTX 580
>Arkham Knight
So let me get this straight, you bought a-then-4-year-old GPU to run a brand new, poorly-optimized game?
Are you borderline retarded?
The 580 literally trades blows with a GTX 660 (pic related) which means in most games it'll barely outperform the PS4.

>>324463213
The fuck do you need all this VRAM for.

http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/90/much-vram-need-1080p-1440p-4k-aa-enabled/index.html

None of this shit even hits 4GB, not even at 4k.

>>324463893
>When you decide to build a PC chances are you don't have a chair made for comfortable sitting for prolonged time.
Who the fuck owns an apartment and doesn't have a fucking chair?
Do you not have a desk either?
What happens when you have guests and the couch is full, do they just sit on the floor?

>>324463271
>Now what you plug it into your TV?
Console doesn't come with a TV
>You gonna sit on that kitchen chair for several hours?
Couch/Sofa doesn't come with a console
>You also have to take care of your PC over the years/months
>Troubleshooting, adjusting settings, dealing with bullshit is common
Same for consoles
>Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators
Consoles also have tons of weebshit so your point is moot, you decide what you want to play even if you have to muscle through trashes
>The only relevant games are basically broken console ports I could already play on console
Crysis modded, Warband modded and SupCom FA modded never comes to consoles

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>>324455567
GOAT card

I don't think I'll switch it for a while since PC games only need a good CPU these days

>>324463271
you know, whenever people say that PC is cheaper, it's usually in the long run. Hlw many times does this have to be repeated? For a $560 PC, you only have to upgrade up to upwards $300+ if you want to last for another 2 generations with the added bonus of not having to rebuy your games for different hardware. The opposite is true for consoles

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>>324463893
>Place yourself in the shoes of a normal individual.

>>324464050
Some poor optimization with some games although we won't need past 6 for years

>muh sekrit club gaming platform
Seriously, this is what kills pc gaming

>>324464049
I thought I must've made a typo, but I said arkham city in both posts

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I have £1k so what do I need to join the master race fags?

>>324463567
Can my 300$ laptop runs PS2 emu? I don't think PS4 can run all older gen games

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I've got a prebuilt from 2007, possibly 2008, with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 610. The best game I can run is New Vegas around 25FPS at 1280x720 with lag in Freeside/New Vegas themselves.

So mostly I emulate since I can't run anything new. Was all excited for GTA IV back when it came out and at absolute lowest settings including resolution, I was getting under 20 FPS

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>>324464246
But Arkham City runs fine, even on shit-tier GPUs.
I ran it at 50-60 FPS on medium-high at 2048x1152 on my old HD 5770.
Same for Arkham Origins.

>>324463271
About that reply I promised you. I feel generous today so you can have this one for free, but next time at least try.

Also where did you say you bought that console+couch bundle?

>>324463758
almost everything ran like garbage so after a year or two I bought a new card

think I have a gtx 760 now, can't be bothered to look

FUCK PC GAMING

>>324464049
>post game with shit optimization on Console side
>Get mad at next gen

>post game that's poorly optimized on pc
>its the games fault

>>324463213
>4GB 2 years from retirement
what crack do you smoke.

>>324464289
Check out logical increments
Stick with AMD GPU/ INTEL CPU
If you have money for a nice monitor 144hz is better then 4k

>>324463621
>Basically the entire Xbox 360 library is there.
Which you have played by now during 7th gen normally unless you were wasting time on TF2 and assfaggots.

>New releases always have ports if not dedicated.
Only a small part of relevant games gets ported.

>Steam is also incredible too.
What have you been smoking, Steam is cancerous as fuck m8. The community is absolutely terrible. The sales are a nasty trick to sell you shit games you will never play. The whole platform is a video games themed facebook infested with faggotry on top of being a giant DRM.

I don't know much about Xbox, but the Wii U, the PS3 and the PS4 all have a nice interface.

>physical CD
That's a huge advantage actually.

>upgrade to goylake
>still use a 4870

not a good time to buy gpus 2bh

>>324464380
>NVIDIA GeForce GT 610
I'm going to assume that you bought that later since it didn't release until like 2012.
In which case, you are literally retarded.
That GPU is weaker than an Xbox 360 by a long shot.

>>324464143
>PC games...need a good CPU
10/10, best troll ITT

>>324464049
>MFW overclocked 6870
>Still better than modern consoles

I held off on getting a 280X+ on black friday because die shrink, wonder if it'll last that long.

>>324464403
okay dude I'm just telling you what happened to me

>>324464049
>that pic

What the fuck

Alien Isolation maxes out on a 750 Ti

>>324464289
An SSD.

No seriously. They're fucking great. You'll never look at your PC the same way again when you instantly load games and boot up at least twice as fast.

Don't believe /g/ that they're meme drives. They're excellent and by the time yours becomes outdated or corrupted(yes SSDs do lose integrity...at a snail's rate), a brand new superior one can be bought and replace it for a very small price.

>>324463865
My point is that it's not shilling if we're talking about PC as a whole because there is no central company that regulates the entirety of PC as a whole

Is it time for a new GPU? What should I get? I'd like to be able to play DD:DA.

>>324464495
It was given to me, I'm not going to buy a computer part and get the buyers remorse of it not fitting or it being faulty. Fucking chinese

>>324463990
Who the hell doesn't own a TV nowadays?

The rest is literally
>works for me:^)

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I still use a Radeon 6950 from years ago, and nothings come out on PC recently that's made me consider upgrading it.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6950

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>>324464501
>reading comprehension

You could've probably guessed I meant in combination with a 750 Ti if you weren't in community college

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>>324464478
>>post game with shit optimization on Console side
>>Get mad at next gen

>>post game that's poorly optimized on pc
>>its the games fault

Actually, my personal point with that image is that games are poorly optimized on all platforms, it's not a PC-only thing.
Thing is, when a game is poorly optimized on consoles you're kinda shit out of luck, at least on PC you can lower the settings and get a playable experience or upgrade if you're really that bothered.

>>324464540
>>324464556
Alien Isolation is pretty poorly optimized on consoles.
In fact, quite a few games have some pretty nasty optimization issues, in some cases, new updates come with their own issues (like that new Diablo 3 patch on PS4).

>>324464580
Yeah, but the point of this entire thread was that card, not PC gaming as a whole. I really don't see where you're trying to go with this.

>>324460656
Mother fucker ha as much vram as the 360 had total ram. Fucker had twice the vram the PS3 had.

PC has always been the Master Race.

>>324463893
Chanes are, a regular person would have at least a wooden chair and a wooden table that isn't a dinner table for work-related things

>>324464702
He clearly isn't as retarded as you, so this seems like a user error kind of deal.

>>324464479
Thought Nvidia was a more solid brand for GPU's or was i wrong?

>>324464702
>Who the hell doesn't own a TV nowadays?
I don't own a TV with an HDMI port.
What do?

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Need to upgrade from a 7800. What's a good card without paying money out the ass so that I can actually play XCOM2 on max?
Never had problems with AMD, despite what the memes say

I keep seeing people on here bitching about the 970. I don't really keep up to date with cards, but I need to upgrade my rig in the next few months, so I'll ask; what's the deal?

>>324458898
I bought a 670 for a little over $400, including shipping, within a month or two of it coming out.

Still using it to this day. I don't look forward to having to replace her, but thankfully I'm still able to get most things up to at least high settings across the board at 1080. Mostly 60 FPS, but not always 100%..

>>324464481
There's a reason why Steam got so big in the first place.
Convenience. It does everything. Sure it's "DRM" but it's tied to an account you have anyways. The only security in place is there to prevent others from stealing your shit or replicating the fuck out of it and causing all kinds of issues with piracy(if you wanna pirate something just use fucking piratebay or whatever)

>PCs have had physical drives forever
The fact that DVD drives are no longer necessary I think is a big improvement. The transferring of information has become much easier. I still personally have a CD drive though and so do a lot of others so consoles do not have an advantage here.

>>324464447
>almost everything ran like garbage
With that card it still must have ran games leagues better than games did on consoles.
I mean, unless you had a faulty card, which you could have returned for a new one.

>FUCK PC GAMING
oh okay.

>>324464380
You should trade for a 530. This thing ran BF4 @40 FPS 720p on the lowest settings. I couldn't even believe that the game actually opened.

>>324464927
>but I need to upgrade my rig in the next few months
Why would you buy a 970 now when next-gen GPUs are literally right around the corner?

>>324464741
>community college as an insult
still the best troll ITT

>>324464702
Yes, but you're exaggerating the problems that people encounter in PCs. Chances are, with a properly built PC, the frequency of problems is the same as console. The only difference is that fixing a PC is very DIY

Fuck you OP you pigskin BITCH!

>>324464742
Yeah I was disappointed in the way sleeping dogs turned out, since it runs worse than GTA V on next gen

I was just shitposting anyways, but I agree with you/

>>324464481
>Only a small part of relevant games gets ported.
Actually, I'd estimate that 95% of relevant games have PC versions.

>>324464927
Honestly, Nvidia lied about its general perfoamnce and VRAM, but it still seems like a fine card. i wouldn't buy one personally, but thats because I'm waiting for 14/16nm to hit to upgrade.

>>324465001
I didn't actually know that, young lady. As I said, I don't really follow cards

>>324464817
AMD for price/performance value for your money on mid to midhigh end. Nvidia for solid performance on the high ends

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>>324464141
>Console doesn't come with a TV
The average house doesn't have a couch and a TV set? I guess people sit down on the floor and stare at walls after work/school.

>Same for consoles
You don't have to change thermal paste, dismantle the thing to clean fans, upgrade, watch your "temps" and all that shit. It's also very rare that a game is broken to the point you are unable to play it on consoles.

>MUH MODS
I love how 0.1% of PC games have mod support with actual decent modding community.

>>324457665
>mfw i have an R9 280 4GB and I defecate heavily on your head

>>324465001
Because it's gonna go down in price?
I agree we should wait but once the new cards come in, i think it'll be a hell of a steal.
Might drop to like 200-250. Now that's amazing performance to price if I've ever seen it

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I used to run SLI but one after 5 years of service one of my GPUs died on me. I think it might be time to upgrade. Suggestions?

>Hating on good, cheap mid-range cards just because they have the best price/performance ratio

>>324465001
There's always going to be something "right around the corner". People here have been saying for m o n t h s that there's NEW GPUS SOON DONT BUY ANYTHING YET WAIT FOR THE PRICE DROP

Why bother waiting for godot when you can just upgrade immediately without wasting m o n t h s waiting for the next big step in an industry built off endless next big steps?

I'm buying an msi 970 next week because my old card died and I'm bored shitless staring at my new copy of BF4 while playing dota at low on my facebook-tier graphics card, the next big step isn't coming soon anyway with recent nvidia news.

>>324465202
>The average house doesn't have a couch and a TV set?
Again, what if the TV doesn't have an HDMI port?
>You don't have to change thermal paste, dismantle the thing to clean fans, upgrade, watch your "temps" and all that shit.
Right, instead you wait around and when your console RRoDs, YLoDs, RLoDs, or outright bricks you sit around, scratch your head, and send it in to mommy Microsoft or Sony so they can fix it.

>>324465367
>People here have been saying for m o n t h s that there's NEW GPUS SOON DONT BUY ANYTHING YET WAIT FOR THE PRICE DROP
Difference is, this time it's true.
AMD's Polaris and Nvidia's Pascal are both LITERALLY scheduled for 2016 releases.

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Poor fag here

Should I get a nvidia 750 gtx ti?

>>324465396
>Right, instead you wait around and when your console RRoDs, YLoDs, RLoDs, or outright bricks you sit around, scratch your head, and send it in to mommy Microsoft or Sony so they can fix it.
dunno, ps3 going strong for 6 years not a single repair or replace needed

>>324464379
PS4 PS2 retrocompatibility is in preparation. Your $300 laptop will run every emulator except 6th gen. That requires a good CPU, you could probably find something for under $400 with a strong dual core CPU. I have a 450 eurobucks laptop with an i5 and ePSX2 runs fine in 720p.

>>324464050
Did you not even look at what you linked? GTA is running 4GB at 1080, at 4k it's going 6.4. Shadow of Mordor is fucking 4.8at 1080.

>>324465509
Then you're going to be telling me to wait for a price drop. Then you're going to be telling me to wait for some new card because these newer ones are going to be worse than your expectations.

This is a vicious cycle that repeats itself. Your lottery games are insulting, good lady.

>>324465367
>I'm buying an msi 970 next week because my old card died and I'm bored shitless staring at my new copy of BF4 while playing dota at low on my facebook-tier graphics card, the next big step isn't coming soon anyway with recent nvidia news.

This is different than having a functional GPU like a 650/6870/7870 whatever and waiting for the biggest step forward in GPU technology since 2011.

Should I bother with a 980/980Ti or will a 970 be good enough?

>>324465581
Funny, because I've gone through 3 360s and 2 PS3s.
>>324465586
>I have a 450 eurobucks laptop with an i5 and ePSX2 runs fine in 720p.
At that point you might as well just save up an extra $100 and build a decent gaming PC.
450 euros is like $500 (which kind of surprised me, but it's funny seeing your currency drop so much).
Personally, I think the best setup would be this:
$600-$900 gaming PC, $100-$200 netbook for school/portable work, and 1 or 2 consoles (for me the only current gen console I own is a WiiU).

>>324465092
If we count PS3, 360, Wii U, PSVita, 3DS, PS4, Xbone, i'd say 20%.

>>324464479
If you get a 144 monitor, are you needing to run all your games at 144 fps to have it look good just as you need to run 60fps on a 60hz monitor? Because that's gonna be a bitch on most every card out there.

>>324465820
Nah, even then it's still ~85%.

>>324463271
Lets compare my 336 game steam library to my 20 game xbox 360 library, Xbox first
>$110 for skyrim (FUCKING STRAYA)
>$300 for the xbox itself
>$70 for oblivion
>$70 each for Halo 3 and Halo ODST
>$70 FO:NV
>$100 Fable 3
>$30 Fallout 3 goty and Fable 2 Legendary
>$8 Crackdown and Bioshock (excellent purchases)
>$8 phantasy star and gears of war (terrible purchases)
>$50 Crackdown 2
>$25 Saints Row 2
>$50 Borderlands + $20 DLC
>$50 CoD WaW
>$100 2 extra controllers
>$300 3 years of xbawks gold (because the price was ass back then) and DLC items (I know I spent at least $100 on those shitty microsoft point cards)
shipped with Pro evolution soccer 2008, ass cred and lego indiana jones

I got $1477 there not including price of TV and couch (because apparently furniture counts) vs $1000 for PC and peripherals, $358.50 for the 40 games on steam I have with 10 hours on them; another $60 based on the 299 games left over divided by 5 for the median price of humble bundle games, another $100 because I know I've thrown money at enough random crap.

So all up you have $1518.50 for a 336 game PC with 40 games heavily played (plus pirated games in some quantity with some (large) amount of playtime) vs $1477 for a 20 game xbox 360 with 14 games heavily played

>>324465894
If you count Fallout 4 and Asscreed as relevant games.

>>324466009
I count every AAA game and most multiplats.
I don't however, count weeb games with sub-150k sales that no one except weebs and otaku care about.

>>324465969
And yet of those 336, 320 are shovelware, 14 are console ports, and you only play the 2 left. Which are assfaggots and counter strike.

>>324465586
So 350$ laptop and 300$ PS4 = total 650$
Don't know if this is a good option, like in the future do I need to change my laptop when PS5 comes out?

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>>324466126
Your loss.

>>324463271
>not plugging it into your TV
>not sitting on the floor

Pleb.

>>324465969
To add on to this, I just recently got a WiiU, and I spent:
>$300 for the console (which came with MK8)
>$45 on Sm4sh
>$6 on Bayo 1
>$60 on 3 WiiU Pro Controllers
>$20 on a Gamecube controller
Which has already come out to almost $450.
And this doesn't even take into account the other games I need to buy (Bayo 2, W101, Xenoblade X, possibly Super Mario 3D World, Splatoon, and a few others).
Though it is definitely worse for Nintendo, they have a tendency to keep their game prices sky fucking high.

>>324465202

>You don't have to change thermal paste, dismantle the thing to clean fans, upgrade, watch your "temps" and all that shit. It's also very rare that a game is broken to the point you are unable to play it on consoles.

>having to exaggerate shit just to prove a point
Those things you mentioned about thermal pastes and cleaning rarely ever happens. And broken games are rare as well for PC.

>>324465969
I'd like to add a timeframe for both devices
Xbox was my primary gaming device from christmas 2007 to christmas 2011
PC was and is my primary gaming device from christmas 2011 to now, so roughly the same period of ownership (4 years)

The PC is beginning to feel its years but the cost of new parts would be about the same as the cost of an xbone or ps4 as the majority of the system is still holding together.

Also worth mentioning is that I no longer give a shit about handheld gaming while in the xbox period I had a $200 DS with 4 $70 pokeman games and a $50 piracy card

>>324466192
>shovelware
>old games are now shovelware
>weebgame library fillers count on console but not on PC

>>324464380
Holy fuck, the GPU in my 6 year old laptop is more powerful than that.

>>324465520
I have a brother who's looking to upgrade as well.

Do you already have a prebuilt toaster with an i5 or an i7?
The low power consumption of the card should pretty much guarantee that you can just put it in your toaster and everything should work.

I would probably recommend the gtx 950 instead. It's no beast but it's stronger than console with a fairly big margin.
However it uses slightly more power and costs a bit more.

I am curious, how many watt would a system with a gtx 950 need?

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>>324458268
>dollarinos

>>324465520
>750ti
It would be preferable if you got a fucking job

>>324465721
980/ti both take small bounds ahead of the 970 from what I've seen, but I'm still going to buy a 970 because my replacement parts build (i5-4690k, msi-z97g5, msi-970, core3500 case) is already at $1,225 dollary-doos and I'm not willing to substitute this $500+ card for a $1,000+ 980ti.

From the graph posted earlier in this thread I'm pretty sure that the 980ti can get fucked if they're asking another $500-600 for a !!!!10%!!!! marked increase in performance and muh vram.

Beware of the lengths of the cards when you're buying a 970 because the gigabyte-G1970 is 31cm long and will fuck your HDDs and cables up. It also has 3 god damn fans on it, like zenix or some other brands.

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>the lack of speccy in this thread

Deplorable. Post 'em.

I get 60 fps in Fallout 4 on max settings except in Boston, although I don't think even SLI'd Titan X's get a solid 60 either. Game is unoptimized as fuck.

>>324466883
>how many watt would a system with a gtx 950 need?
~300

>>324464616
Ya but the 610 is horrendous.

>>324466192
17 games of the 40 games I have 10 hours in are PC exclusive and not free to play
9 PC exclusives non free to play with 100 hours or more
1 PC exclusive freemium game I've dropped money in at 200 hours (Planetside 2, $20, falls under the $100 PC misc money)

I also own all the cross-plat games I had on xbox on steam

>tfw waiting for pascal to launch, and can't decide whether to get new pascal card or get a price dropped 980ti
>I have no face for this

>tfw recently bought a second hand 7970ghz for $100
>bro buys a second hand 750ti for $150
I love it when things have a meme premium

>>324466980
>>324458268
>dollarinos
>not dollaridoos

>>324465721
If the chart here >>324457582 is accurate, the 970 should be more than enough

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>>324467140
Aww shit, time for speccy.

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>google searched "cool looking graphics cards"
>mine is the second one
i have the second best graphics card ever made

>>324466883
Pretty much any basic system will need a maximum of 500W which will give plenty of excess and allow the PSU to run cool and comfy. I'm on 450W which will probably keep my future 970 happy.

If you're going insane with your PC which is very silly then you could go higher than 500W but it's pretty pointless unless you really really really need it to support whatever disaster is being created.

Make sure it's not a cheapo chinese PSU that will burn down your PC and your house, because they exist in great numbers, but also don't go for some 3lit3 gam3r $300 PSU because das dumb

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>>324455567
>not wanting more people in the PC gaming community
Fuck you. More people means more reason for devs to release more games on it. Why do you care if people who like something you don't are using the same platform as you?

>>324467323
>not dollaridoos
dollaridoos are only for aussie currency fampai
don't make this shit more confusing than it needs to be

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>>324467140
>tfw don't play anything graphically intensive anyway

>>324467142
Only 300? I expected something like 400-500 watt.
300 as in, just enough to power the components, or as in enough to run things stable?

My brother does have a 300 watt power supply in his toaster. If he got a gtx 950, would it actually work fine under full load or would he get bluscreen?

What's a good Mini ITX case, /v/?

>>324467697
>300 as in, just enough to power the components, or as in enough to run things stable?
The latter.
People overestimate how much wattage you need for a stable build.
Just for comparison, a PC with 7 R9 Nanos and a 28-core hyperthreaded server CPU draws around 1550 watts at full load.
A PC with a single R9 Nano and an i5 4690k draws around 450 watts.
PCs don't really use that much power, a fucking hot plate draws more wattage than the average high-end gaming PC.

>>324459939
>without RAM
That's literally impossible, anon.

>>324464616
dude if your poorer, just get a gtx 750 2gb, they go on sale all the time on newegg for 99.00 sometimes lower with wail in rebates andshit. I've always gone with Zotac for my past 3 cards and havent been let dwon yet with em. got a gtx960 right now, gonna upgrade when the new pascal cards drop later this year

should I get an i5 or i3 processor
is the i5 really worth another $100 over the i3 if games seem to run fine on i3 right now?

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>>324467140
I've had it for 5 years and it's finally starting to show its age.

I'm scooping out the insides and putting together the listed machine in April.

>>324465326
dude I've got a GTX960 and love it. Runs every game I throw at it on high/ultra at 1440. It eats Fallot 4 and witcher 3 easily with mods

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380x
Y/n?

>>324467697
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
Assuming he has a GTX 950, an i5 4460, a 7200 RPM HDD, a blu-ray drive, a wireless card, 1337 g4m3r garbage, and a 120mm fan, load wattage would be ~288 watts.
So just to be safe, if he had a low-mid-tier gaming PC, I'd suggest at least 350 watts.

>>324468075

>reusing your old power supply

Don't.

>>324468018
Nvidia?
i3
AMD?
i5

>>324468181
I've only had the power supply for a couple years and the manufacturer warranty is for 5, it'll be fine.

>>324467913
>>324467443
Alright thanks for the info.

So his system has an i5 2400. if that's paired with a gtx 950, everything should work perfectly even on a 300 watt power supply, correct?

That would be great news for my brother. He's a real poorfag.

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>>324467140
Fuck fallout 4 man, everything is nice and good then you get to the top of corvega and BAM, drops down to the high 40s.

>>324468158
Yes.
Great GPU for 1080p60 high/max in new games and even 1440p60 in some.

Oh look, PC pseudogamers that think graphics actually mean anything.

Here's a hint, shitstains: it ain't graphics that make PC gaming better than consoles. It's everything else. Graphics don't mean shit for gaming. Modern gaming is all about graphical clusterfuckery at the expense of actual quality gameplay, as well as feeling like they need to have some sort of overblown, intrusive story bullshit to go along with their pretty fucking graphics because suddenly they think that having pretty graphics means gaming has to emulate movies or TV.

Fuck that shit. Gaming is best when you can run your game on a fucking toaster and it has quality gameplay. If you paid more than a few hundred bucks for your PC because you needed some overblown graphics card and a souped up, overheating, power-sucking processor (as well as a fucking power supply that could provide a good sized third world nation with power), you're an idiot.

Go play good, old games. Now. Some may be nearly as old as you are or even older, and some may have pixels the size of your tiny little head, but don't be afraid and don't judge the quality of a game by its graphics, because that is fucking stupidity.

>>324467712
>Literally no reply

>>324468375
Great pasta, I think I'll re-use it.
Here's your (You).

>>324468375
Are you a TAfag?

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>>324468318

>high 40s

It's dropped down to 15fps for me in certain parts of boston

look how nice it looks though

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>>324467697
yea you'll be fine. I've got a Corsair cs450m in my rig, and never had any problems. got it for on sale for 59.99$+ a 30$ rebate so it was really only 29$.No weird noises or whines or anything.

>>324468375
>Graphics don't mean shit for gaming.
>okay.tiff

>>324458636
The "mid-range gaming PC" is self-contradictory.
There is literally no point in buying a PC that already has major issues running games
>but muh budget
If you can't afford a high-end PC, then literally buy a console. It will unironically work better for you

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>>324455567
ftw edition

>>324468362
Thanks for the insight bud you're the best

>>324468301
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
Try something like this if you know what's in his box. It'll give a more accurate answer than I can.

>>324468174
400 watts you nigger, 100 watts overhead

>>324468102
I thought the gtx 960 was more of a 1080p card?
I have a gtx 680 which should perform fairly close to a gtx 960.
It's a great card, but framerates in modern games on ultra gives me like 40 fps or less, I think.

at 1080 everything is above 60 unless you play crysis 3

>mfw i only spend 250aud for a brand new r9 290

thank you for those retards trying mine bitcoins to oversaturate the market

>>324468640
>>324468464
>>324468484
>no actual replies, just shitposting and memes
You do realize you need to be 18 or over to post on 4chan, right?

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>>324455567
You want to know what REALLY ruined PC gaming? This piece of shit.

Yes, MAC ruined PC gaming. Notice how all the artsy fartsy games like Gone Home also have Mac versions. Notice how toasterware and assfaggots also have Mac versions. PC was fine until those fucking Mac hipsters came along with their overpriced laptops.

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>>324468513
yea it can look really pretty sometimes and comfy as fuck. And no I wasnt trying to make Hitler this is what I really look like lol

>>324468375
I dont include good old games in my PC vs Console cost breakdown cause if I didn't have a gayman PC I'd still own a toaster that could run them and do internets

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>>324468652
Nah, the sweet-spot for a PC is the $600-$900 range.
Within that range you can build a great PC that can tackle most (if not all) new games on high/max settings at 1080p60.
Hell, my 280x can even play games like Crysis 3 on high at 1440p and maintain 60 FPS.
Pic related.

>>324468814
but to shitposting you need to be over 21, otherwise it's not fun

>>324468840
The point is why do you have a "gayman" PC if the only good games are games that will run on your toaster just fine?

Consoles are garbage, "gayman" PCs are garbage. Buy a cheap PC, play good old PC games/old emulation.

>>324468814
>You do realize you need to be 18 or over to post on 4chan, right?
You do realize age and maturity are completely separate things, right?

>>324468953
If you don't like modern vidya why are you here and not on /vr/?

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>>324463271
>Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators
Opinion discarded.
I was with you until you said that retarded garbage.

>>324468918
Hate to say it friend but that image looks like garbage

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>had a gts 450 since 2010
>just upgraded to r9 390
>that huge jump in performance

>>324468953
because I have 100+ hours each on 13 games that wouldn't run on toasters (that immediately come to mind, there's probably more among my pirated games)

>>324468984
You do realize that any decent person that's 18 should actually be mature, right?

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>>324468953
>trying to convince others to get the same shitty setup you have

It's less about the wattage, and more about the amperage on the 12v. For something like >>324468174 I'd say you want at least 40.

>>324469193
Hah. HAh. HAH. HAH!

You're really quite funny.

>>324469180
What games? Seriously, I have trouble finding any game made in the last 10 years that holds my interest in the slightest. Maybe half a dozen or so at most.

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>>324469157
Crysis 3 is one of those games that pretty much always looks better in motion.
Shame the game itself is crap, glad I got it for free.

>>324469140
If you like modern vidya why are you here and not on /tv/?

Because that's what modern "gaming" is.

>>324455567
The switch from AGP to PCIE was when the cancer really begun. Steam releasing HL2 completely killed PC gaming over night. PC gaming was on its deathbed with DRM like securom and Valve came in and did the finishing blow. It's worse than just death, PC gaming is just a shitty version of console gaming.

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>>324463271
>You also have to take care of your PC over the years/months.
who the fuck doesn't take care of their expensive electronics already?? are you 12?

>You are going to encounter lot of issues, while building and then go though lot of bullshit. It takes a whole afternoon to build and set up everything.
Oh nOes not a WHOLE afternoon! Shits fun setting up your new rig/room

>Everyone is playing Dota 2 and CS. Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators. The only relevant games are basically broken console ports I could already play on console.
Just because you only play a few games doesn't mean everyone does

>>324465202
>No AAA exclusives
What? Pretty much all AAA games are multiplats, timed exclusives, or PS4/XBox One + PC. Exclusives are pretty much a dead concept aside from Nintendo, games that are true exclusives actually become noteworthy for that fact like Bloodborne. Also this post ignores how AAA games are buggy even on consoles nowadays. Almost every major online game launch on console is a disaster, Playstation Network is shit and Halo MCC multiplayer was broken for a month. The idea that consoles "just work" simply isn't true anymore.

>had a HD 7870 for 4+ years now
>runs everything I want to play at 1080 if not on all high settings
I'll have to rebuild the whole fucking thing though this summer since I got a out-dated pin set cpu and motherboard.

>>324469440
10/10 joke anon.

>>324469645
Sadly the only joke here is modern gaming.

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>>324469274
games in this image, oblivion, sims 3 and fallout 4
also a few others I can no longer remember, sims 3 originally wasnt on the list.
>inb4 supcom runs on a toaster
>inb4 terraria runs on a toaster
both are more CPU intensive than a used $100 dell piece of shit can handle and both like to have 4GB of RAM

>>324469274
>>324469440

You're just stating your subjective feelings as objective facts. You haven't really contributed anything valuable to the thread besides "Stop liking what I don't like!"

>>324456454
im still using this card

>>324469702
>Endless Legend
Mah nigga.

>>324457665
Same here. Best card IMO. Hits that sweet spot between price and performance.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9ZsFQ7
rate my budget build I have never built a PC before

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BTFO. and this list doesnt even have MOST games that are fun as hell on PC

If you're only doing 1080p/60fps than a 970's fine. Hell my 960 can run pretty much everything except TW3 and FO4 on max.

>>324469702
I liked CivV but not as much as the older Civs for some reason. Terraria is one of the few games I really enjoyed. The rest of those games did absolutely nothing for me.

Opinions, I guess, man. But damn, I seriously just cannot take most of modern gaming seriously. The games are either horrible at control and/or gameplay or try to be some overblown heavy story-driven drivel, or some other bullcrap.

>>324463927
By not having such a shitty case :^)

>built a $1500 rig
>play nothing but KanColle

>>324469846
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9ZsFQ7
Id stay away from Seagate as far as HDD go, they blow. Id get a western digital if I were you. Also dont get the micro board if youre not building a miniPC. Go with the Asus B85M-G. great board and its inexpensive and you'll have a little room to upgrade

>>324469727
Yeah, I know. Opinions. But damn, it just really gets to me where gaming has gone these days and how I've gone from liking a huge chunk of gaming because it was actually good to hating it because modern games fly in the face of everything that made older games good.

>>324469875
> multiplatforms included on the list

>>324469875
>supcom forged alliance was released in 2008
>playing a 4v4 on setons in 2015 you can get kicked from a lobby and told to come back when you have an i7 6700k

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>>324468739
Alright, thanks.
These were the results.

I suppose it would be wise to invest in a slightly better power supply.
But damn, 300 was close to be enough.

>>324470076
This. Fuck seagate

>>324470127
>recommended wattage: 316
>recommended psu: 500
watt

>>324470112
The game will always be a CPU hog, right?

Did I do a mistake getting 2gb R9 380 instead of 4gb one
So far its been easily enough but devs seem to be getting lazy and ugly games keep using more and more vram without any visible improvements

>>324470261
Headroom. Plus most 400 watts are shit.

>>324470379
400 has served me well for fucking forever. Zero issues.

Don't buy shit PSUs.

>>324469469
Steam wasnt forced until EP1

>>324470490
Most =/= all

Is watercooling a meme? Could you just buy a good fan instead?

>>324469846
right now youre spending 217 for your RAM,CPU and MoBo. You can spend 60 more bucks and get an i5, a better MoBo and better RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2465527

>>324470562
Again, don't buy shit GPUs and you won't have to worry about a 400 being shit. And you don't need that much headroom, unless you're drawing very high 300s constantly you won't have any issues.

>>324470343
it's overstated a lot as a meme but I have an FX8370 because I fell for the AMD meme and my CPU rating is somewhere around 20-50.

My ping as an australian is usually around 300 though so I often get told to fuck off and come back with an i7

>>324470632
they are kinda, theyre like the after market exhaust of PC. But if you live in a hot place, or plan on doing ALOT of video Editing and Rendering, then possibly.

>>324470127
Honestly I don't think you'd have many troubles with an older GPUs wattage if you're not going to be stressing it with games on high settings. The 316W recommended is just to give you a comfortable excess in power so as not to drive your PSU too hard and wear it down/make it run loud/hot.

It states that under load you'd be pushing 266W, which is when you're doing something graphically-intensive like playing new/intense/poorly-optimised games. While this means that under load your PSU is nearing 90% wattage, as I said, it won't be a problem if you're not really pushing your graphics, and it probably won't use nearly that much otherwise.

http://powersupplycalculator.net/
This site gives you an estimate of how much you'll be using when idle as well as when under load, so you can think of where you'd be sitting when running whatever games or programs you do.

>>324470632
It's only a meme if you don't bother overclocking.

>>324469846
>>324469846
or here just have a look for yourself at these kits. I bought one when I built my last pC and saved some cash, not a whole lot, but about 40$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=30000007%2031001489%20600090102%20600556393&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=BESTMATCH

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>>324468826

Honestly only the lighting makes the game look good, once we get mods that retexture the whole game I think it'll look 1000x better

>>324469846
Honestly, you really want to get at least an i5 if you're gonna go AMD.
In fact, even if you're going Nvidia, if you're doing anything higher than a GTX 950, you should be looking at at least a mid-range i5.

>>324470829
90% PSU usage. That shits bad man. You should aim for no more then 2/3rds.

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>tfw AMD cpu
>tfw stuck with this pos until the end of the year when zen releases

>>324470705
>Again, don't buy shit GPUs
You never mentioned anything about GPUs.

>>324456076
how do I compare graphic cards
I'm bad at this

>>324469846
280X and 2XX AMD in general had a high failure rate; get a 3XX card