This card ruined PC gaming forever
>cheap as hell
>uses up less power than a fucking alarm clock
>you can stick it into any prebuilt from after 2008 and play modern games somewhat
This is THE graphics card that opened the floodgates of shitty teenagers, third-world shitskins, bronies, etc into PC gaming communities.
Nah senpai, this was the one that opened the shit gates.
>had 3 of those melt in the same year
That was a bad year. Went Radeon for a long while after that. Gotta say, those cards never failed me. Back on Nvidia now and with all the random bullshit that happens with these cards. Damn shame AMD doesn't make very powerful cards. They sure are reliable.
the 560ti was literally a flawless card
-compatible with everything including paper clips and string
I never fell for the 560ti meme but I regret that every day of my life, friendo
>released in 2014
>made pc gaming a meme
>OP confirmed for 2 years old
Fucko, I was running an ATI 4850 when Yellow Britstralian started the Mustard Race meme back in 2008.
Yes they don't have the worlds fastest GPU by a hair,
but its not like they are lagging behind NVidia, the big Maxwell is just a little faster
I have a 760 and don't get the whole buy the fastest GPU thing, I'm gonna get the best 250-300$ GPU next Christmas either the next X60 NVidia gpu or the X70 or X80 AMD GPU that competes with it
Fury X performs better in DX12, though that's not a relevant point at this current moment in time.
The two companies are actually about the same and it doesn't really matter which one you pick.
>that feel when I bought an R9 290x on sale a few months ago for around 350 Kangaroo Dollars (currently worth like 65 Americents each, fuck the exchange rate)
>that feel when the 390 series came out almost immediately after for about $200 more
I don't know if I made the right choice or not. Then again, I don't even run the thing at full blast because I was sick of the fan noise, and it still gives 60fps in anything. I'm just salty over numbers.
>There are "people" on /v/ RIGHT NOW who spent more than 500 fucking dollarinos on a graphics card
Yep, its called the 280X now
Isn't the fastest thing in the world but it no slouch
yeah, but this is at 150 dollars.
>tfw you are the main demographic for PC software, and by the time software is optimized for 4 GB cards, they'll be more efficient, cheaper, and not 3.5 GB scam cards
>decide to build a "mid range" PC
>fell for the 750 ti meme card
>1080p and meme framerate impossible on new games
>every new release will run worse
>mfw "everything runs fine on my rig:^)" faggots with much worse cards
Loving every laugh, now I'm stuck with either having a really shitty experience or having to spend $300 on a single component. Fuck this PC meme.
That card was in the first system I built myself. That and a Core 2 Duo E6600. And now I just fucking realized my current system also has a 6600 in it. Just replacing the E before with a k after.
I did and my games ran like shit and I don't know why to this day, I bought arkham city for 100 australian dollarinos when it launched to test my card and it took me 2 days to download on my internet through steam
never again will I fall for the cutting edge PC gaming meme
>I spent 450$ on a GTX 770 2-3 weeks before 970 released at the same price
The 750 ti can run anything!
fucks like this that don't know how to work a settings menu are whats killing the industry
I played Arkham Knight and Witcher 3 on a 560ti
I heard the exact same thing when I got a 750. PC gaming isn't worth shit if you can't get your hands on a $300 card. The 980, a fucking $600 card is already struggling with most recent games when played at meme settings. A r9 290 won't last more than one year, especially with VR around the corner.
>I played Arkham Knight and Witcher 3 on a 560ti :^)
I'm sure you did buddy. It ran perfectly at 720p low and with drops.
>The 750 ti can run anything!
Only people saying that are faggots who only ever play assfaggots and counterstrike with the occasional flavour of the month toaster friendly meme game.
>$450 on a 770
Jesus christ, what a fucking ripoff.
Even the fucking 280x which outperforms the 770 in a lot of games nowadays launched at like $300-$350.
Nowadays the 280x is like $180-$200.
Yeah im a fucking idiot, I can't get used to the fact that 20nm bombed and still think that's the next stepping.
Look a 750ti will play games identically to PS4, not meme settings, but most games are easily played with it, if it has a PS4 release it will work.
The 750ti is still a decent GPU, I think the issue is that you can't into options customization.
My 280x runs most games well even at 1440p.
Hell, I can run Crysis 3 on high at 1440p60 unless there are a lot of particle effects on-screen (in which case the lowest drop I've seen has been to ~40 FPS).
In MP is basically a constant 60 FPS at 1440p on most maps aside from the penn depot.
im on a i7 920 oc'd to 3.9 ghz because my D0 cpu just can't stabilize past 4. On a 560 ti oc'd i get medium settings on Fallout 4. Medium on Witcher 3. Medium on bf4 with steady 150+ fps.
You really need those ultra settings that look only marginally better than normal but drain 200% computing power?
Not entirely true. I tried playing Arkham Knight with it and anything above Low settings turns the game into a slideshow when something is going on screen. PS4 version looks significatively better and runs at much more stable framerate. This game is mostly an exception but yeah, if the games are going to look and run the same I'd rather play on console, at least I get a physical copy, don't have to deal with bullshit and the games have proper trophies support.
how was I supposed to know that it was all a cruel meme, huh? why would anyone lie about it, huh?
maybe I thought something good would happen in my life for once
maybe I watched some videos showing off graphics mods running smoothly and I believed people who told me putting together a PC is like legos and they get a buttery smooth framerate with no techanical issues on ultra in every game on a budget card
was I so wrong to have hope for once in my life, huh?
>had an 8800 GTS 512MB back in the day
>we're at minimum 4gb+ for vram
jesus christ guys..time just flies by. what did i even do with my life?
Well what are you expecting from the PCucks they are the most elitist cunts here even when they had nothing to do but playing literally who indie pixel shit,steam avatars/hardware circlejerks and shitpost here
Im now pc master race hehe
There's something I never understood. Why do you PC fanboys always have to lie so much about PC gaming?
>you lie about how "cheap" it is
>lie about how "easy" it is
>lie about how "convenient" it is
>lie about the "games" it has
Do you do it from sheer adoration for your fat jew overlord or is nvidia/amd paying you to shill on /v/ and plebbit?
I had 8g of ram and 64bit win7
I'd freeze all the time, especially going in and out of doors as well as getting a shit framerate
my card wasn't too hot either
>tfw still with R9 270
>tfw poorfag, so can't upgrade
>ultra in every game on a budget card
I don't know why they would tell you that.
Though, if you got a 750ti or better, then you still have enough gpu power to run any multiplat game that's released this console gen.
And you do have the option to increase the frame rate at the cost of some visual quality. I wish I could do that on consoles too.
>I had 8g of ram and 64bit win7
What happened to it?
What gpu did you have?
It could have been an issue that was fixed in a driver update. Did you update your video drivers?
There are even some cases where drivers can make a card perform worse in older games.
Nah, I have a 560ti with barely 1gb of vram.
FO4 on medium, BF4 on high, haven't played witcher 3.
Its showing its age now but its a great card. The only thing that really fazes it for some reason is Cities Skylines
How do I get off my lazy ass and get a job?
I'm tired of running a shitty HD6670 for years now but I have literally zero experience doing anything and am a social retard to top it off. I don't even know what to put on a CV when I'm such an unremarkable person.
I won't kill myself, before you say.
This year during Black Friday after doing a lot of research I got a 750ti. Best card that fits in my small form factor case and gets enough power from my 240w psu. It performs damn good for what it is.
nothing, I still have those things but at the time of arkham city's release that's what I had then too
I had a gtx580 3gb (I know it's meme, everywhere was out of the card I wanted so I went one up for the meme card). I tried multiple driver versions
piece of shit, fucking pc gaming
From personal experience.
>>you lie about how "cheap" it is
I'm not going to mention the embarassing "$400 console killer" because we both know it's bullshit. Let's assume you want a decent PC that will run everything and have a $550 budget.
Now what you plug it into your TV?
You gonna use telepathy?
Can't hear shit captain.
You gonna sit on that kitchen chair for several hours?
>$60 desktop chair
>>lie about how "easy" it is
You are going to encounter lot of issues, while building and then go though lot of bullshit. It takes a whole afternoon to build and set up everything. You also have to take care of your PC over the years/months.
>>lie about how "convenient" it is
Troubleshooting, adjusting settings, dealing with bullshit is common.
>>lie about the "games" it has
Everyone is playing Dota 2 and CS. Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators. The only relevant games are basically broken console ports I could already play on console.
The only positive about PC gaming is 6th gen emulation. But that still has it's flaws.
the 580 served my friend well until he got a 980.
Should've been a workhorse man. Oh well.
Honestly I really liked that generation. 7970 was the shit and nvidia had some nice cards too.
What a time to live in though. Now the 950 is piss cheap for the kind of performance you're getting. Can absolutely smoke an Xbone and PS4.
You can get a $300 laptop for porn and shitposting and a $300 PS4. It would cost roughly the same amount as 1 (ONE) single PCuck machine equiped with a meme card and coupons for butthurt.
You will be able to play all the multiplats +all the good exclusives on PS4, and all the PC exclusive meme games on your laptop.
PC has a fuckload of good games are you high?
Basically the entire Xbox 360 library is there. New releases always have ports if not dedicated. And like you said, emulation is great.
I play melee on emulator and it's almost flawless.
>anti aliasing so no jagged edges
>no frame drops like there were occasionally on gamecube(fountain of dreams- four player, etc)
>custom hacks and mods
Dude it's great.
Steam is also incredible too. Much easier to manage than Xbone libraries which takes the worst from both worlds. It installs the game to the harddrive and takes up a shitload of space but you still need the physical CD to play.
It's honestly worth it. Imo
I've had two gtx 580s myself. They were okay and ran hot as hell compared to later cards
I think faulty drivers killed both of them.
They should still be stronger than this console gen, which is pretty good for a gpu released in 2010
Do you not get decent framerates in modern games with your card?
I like higher resolutions but honestly this whole bullshit about 4k is a meme I think.
Go with a nice 1080p monitor with a good screen type.
I have an Asus that runs at 144hz with 1ms input lag gray-to-gray scaling. It's fucking fantastic. A proper replacement for any CRT.
Place yourself in the shoes of a normal individual. You have a small apartment, a couch to sit on and a TV. When you decide to build a PC chances are you don't have a chair made for comfortable sitting for prolonged time.
How are you supposed to set that up if you run a 120 for your cpu as well? Back slot is taken, front slots are too cramped and the side doesn't have the clearance on any but the most fucking massive of cases. Drop it on the bottom behind the PSU?
So TV's are free? Same as for consoles
Literally another controller that's better for most games+ if you really don't care you can use a shitty work one and just set up a controller which you seem to already own
You don't need them, most monitor have them, same with TV's
>60$ desktop chair
You don't have too, I'll sit on my couch or just a regular wooden chair, I've got great posture so it's fine on the wooden chair
Had 1 minor issue with my build, took 5 minutes to solve
99% of the time your fine, although some stuff is a bitch
You don't have to play those meme games, it's just a shame a chunk of the community has autism. Doesn't stop me from playing obscure shit.
So let me get this straight, you bought a-then-4-year-old GPU to run a brand new, poorly-optimized game?
Are you borderline retarded?
The 580 literally trades blows with a GTX 660 (pic related) which means in most games it'll barely outperform the PS4.
The fuck do you need all this VRAM for.
None of this shit even hits 4GB, not even at 4k.
>When you decide to build a PC chances are you don't have a chair made for comfortable sitting for prolonged time.
Who the fuck owns an apartment and doesn't have a fucking chair?
Do you not have a desk either?
What happens when you have guests and the couch is full, do they just sit on the floor?
>Now what you plug it into your TV?
Console doesn't come with a TV
>You gonna sit on that kitchen chair for several hours?
Couch/Sofa doesn't come with a console
>You also have to take care of your PC over the years/months
>Troubleshooting, adjusting settings, dealing with bullshit is common
Same for consoles
>Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators
Consoles also have tons of weebshit so your point is moot, you decide what you want to play even if you have to muscle through trashes
>The only relevant games are basically broken console ports I could already play on console
Crysis modded, Warband modded and SupCom FA modded never comes to consoles
I don't think I'll switch it for a while since PC games only need a good CPU these days
you know, whenever people say that PC is cheaper, it's usually in the long run. Hlw many times does this have to be repeated? For a $560 PC, you only have to upgrade up to upwards $300+ if you want to last for another 2 generations with the added bonus of not having to rebuy your games for different hardware. The opposite is true for consoles
>Place yourself in the shoes of a normal individual.
I have £1k so what do I need to join the master race fags?
I've got a prebuilt from 2007, possibly 2008, with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 610. The best game I can run is New Vegas around 25FPS at 1280x720 with lag in Freeside/New Vegas themselves.
So mostly I emulate since I can't run anything new. Was all excited for GTA IV back when it came out and at absolute lowest settings including resolution, I was getting under 20 FPS
But Arkham City runs fine, even on shit-tier GPUs.
I ran it at 50-60 FPS on medium-high at 2048x1152 on my old HD 5770.
Same for Arkham Origins.
About that reply I promised you. I feel generous today so you can have this one for free, but next time at least try.
Also where did you say you bought that console+couch bundle?
>post game with shit optimization on Console side
>Get mad at next gen
>post game that's poorly optimized on pc
>its the games fault
>4GB 2 years from retirement
what crack do you smoke.
>Basically the entire Xbox 360 library is there.
Which you have played by now during 7th gen normally unless you were wasting time on TF2 and assfaggots.
>New releases always have ports if not dedicated.
Only a small part of relevant games gets ported.
>Steam is also incredible too.
What have you been smoking, Steam is cancerous as fuck m8. The community is absolutely terrible. The sales are a nasty trick to sell you shit games you will never play. The whole platform is a video games themed facebook infested with faggotry on top of being a giant DRM.
I don't know much about Xbox, but the Wii U, the PS3 and the PS4 all have a nice interface.
That's a huge advantage actually.
>NVIDIA GeForce GT 610
I'm going to assume that you bought that later since it didn't release until like 2012.
In which case, you are literally retarded.
That GPU is weaker than an Xbox 360 by a long shot.
No seriously. They're fucking great. You'll never look at your PC the same way again when you instantly load games and boot up at least twice as fast.
Don't believe /g/ that they're meme drives. They're excellent and by the time yours becomes outdated or corrupted(yes SSDs do lose integrity...at a snail's rate), a brand new superior one can be bought and replace it for a very small price.
I still use a Radeon 6950 from years ago, and nothings come out on PC recently that's made me consider upgrading it.
You could've probably guessed I meant in combination with a 750 Ti if you weren't in community college
>>post game with shit optimization on Console side
>>Get mad at next gen
>>post game that's poorly optimized on pc
>>its the games fault
Actually, my personal point with that image is that games are poorly optimized on all platforms, it's not a PC-only thing.
Thing is, when a game is poorly optimized on consoles you're kinda shit out of luck, at least on PC you can lower the settings and get a playable experience or upgrade if you're really that bothered.
Alien Isolation is pretty poorly optimized on consoles.
In fact, quite a few games have some pretty nasty optimization issues, in some cases, new updates come with their own issues (like that new Diablo 3 patch on PS4).
Need to upgrade from a 7800. What's a good card without paying money out the ass so that I can actually play XCOM2 on max?
Never had problems with AMD, despite what the memes say
I bought a 670 for a little over $400, including shipping, within a month or two of it coming out.
Still using it to this day. I don't look forward to having to replace her, but thankfully I'm still able to get most things up to at least high settings across the board at 1080. Mostly 60 FPS, but not always 100%..
There's a reason why Steam got so big in the first place.
Convenience. It does everything. Sure it's "DRM" but it's tied to an account you have anyways. The only security in place is there to prevent others from stealing your shit or replicating the fuck out of it and causing all kinds of issues with piracy(if you wanna pirate something just use fucking piratebay or whatever)
>PCs have had physical drives forever
The fact that DVD drives are no longer necessary I think is a big improvement. The transferring of information has become much easier. I still personally have a CD drive though and so do a lot of others so consoles do not have an advantage here.
>almost everything ran like garbage
With that card it still must have ran games leagues better than games did on consoles.
I mean, unless you had a faulty card, which you could have returned for a new one.
>FUCK PC GAMING
Yes, but you're exaggerating the problems that people encounter in PCs. Chances are, with a properly built PC, the frequency of problems is the same as console. The only difference is that fixing a PC is very DIY
Honestly, Nvidia lied about its general perfoamnce and VRAM, but it still seems like a fine card. i wouldn't buy one personally, but thats because I'm waiting for 14/16nm to hit to upgrade.
>Console doesn't come with a TV
The average house doesn't have a couch and a TV set? I guess people sit down on the floor and stare at walls after work/school.
>Same for consoles
You don't have to change thermal paste, dismantle the thing to clean fans, upgrade, watch your "temps" and all that shit. It's also very rare that a game is broken to the point you are unable to play it on consoles.
I love how 0.1% of PC games have mod support with actual decent modding community.
Because it's gonna go down in price?
I agree we should wait but once the new cards come in, i think it'll be a hell of a steal.
Might drop to like 200-250. Now that's amazing performance to price if I've ever seen it
I used to run SLI but one after 5 years of service one of my GPUs died on me. I think it might be time to upgrade. Suggestions?
There's always going to be something "right around the corner". People here have been saying for m o n t h s that there's NEW GPUS SOON DONT BUY ANYTHING YET WAIT FOR THE PRICE DROP
Why bother waiting for godot when you can just upgrade immediately without wasting m o n t h s waiting for the next big step in an industry built off endless next big steps?
I'm buying an msi 970 next week because my old card died and I'm bored shitless staring at my new copy of BF4 while playing dota at low on my facebook-tier graphics card, the next big step isn't coming soon anyway with recent nvidia news.
>The average house doesn't have a couch and a TV set?
Again, what if the TV doesn't have an HDMI port?
>You don't have to change thermal paste, dismantle the thing to clean fans, upgrade, watch your "temps" and all that shit.
Right, instead you wait around and when your console RRoDs, YLoDs, RLoDs, or outright bricks you sit around, scratch your head, and send it in to mommy Microsoft or Sony so they can fix it.
>People here have been saying for m o n t h s that there's NEW GPUS SOON DONT BUY ANYTHING YET WAIT FOR THE PRICE DROP
Difference is, this time it's true.
AMD's Polaris and Nvidia's Pascal are both LITERALLY scheduled for 2016 releases.
>Right, instead you wait around and when your console RRoDs, YLoDs, RLoDs, or outright bricks you sit around, scratch your head, and send it in to mommy Microsoft or Sony so they can fix it.
dunno, ps3 going strong for 6 years not a single repair or replace needed
PS4 PS2 retrocompatibility is in preparation. Your $300 laptop will run every emulator except 6th gen. That requires a good CPU, you could probably find something for under $400 with a strong dual core CPU. I have a 450 eurobucks laptop with an i5 and ePSX2 runs fine in 720p.
Then you're going to be telling me to wait for a price drop. Then you're going to be telling me to wait for some new card because these newer ones are going to be worse than your expectations.
This is a vicious cycle that repeats itself. Your lottery games are insulting, good lady.
>I'm buying an msi 970 next week because my old card died and I'm bored shitless staring at my new copy of BF4 while playing dota at low on my facebook-tier graphics card, the next big step isn't coming soon anyway with recent nvidia news.
This is different than having a functional GPU like a 650/6870/7870 whatever and waiting for the biggest step forward in GPU technology since 2011.
Funny, because I've gone through 3 360s and 2 PS3s.
>I have a 450 eurobucks laptop with an i5 and ePSX2 runs fine in 720p.
At that point you might as well just save up an extra $100 and build a decent gaming PC.
450 euros is like $500 (which kind of surprised me, but it's funny seeing your currency drop so much).
Personally, I think the best setup would be this:
$600-$900 gaming PC, $100-$200 netbook for school/portable work, and 1 or 2 consoles (for me the only current gen console I own is a WiiU).
If you get a 144 monitor, are you needing to run all your games at 144 fps to have it look good just as you need to run 60fps on a 60hz monitor? Because that's gonna be a bitch on most every card out there.
Lets compare my 336 game steam library to my 20 game xbox 360 library, Xbox first
>$110 for skyrim (FUCKING STRAYA)
>$300 for the xbox itself
>$70 for oblivion
>$70 each for Halo 3 and Halo ODST
>$100 Fable 3
>$30 Fallout 3 goty and Fable 2 Legendary
>$8 Crackdown and Bioshock (excellent purchases)
>$8 phantasy star and gears of war (terrible purchases)
>$50 Crackdown 2
>$25 Saints Row 2
>$50 Borderlands + $20 DLC
>$50 CoD WaW
>$100 2 extra controllers
>$300 3 years of xbawks gold (because the price was ass back then) and DLC items (I know I spent at least $100 on those shitty microsoft point cards)
shipped with Pro evolution soccer 2008, ass cred and lego indiana jones
I got $1477 there not including price of TV and couch (because apparently furniture counts) vs $1000 for PC and peripherals, $358.50 for the 40 games on steam I have with 10 hours on them; another $60 based on the 299 games left over divided by 5 for the median price of humble bundle games, another $100 because I know I've thrown money at enough random crap.
So all up you have $1518.50 for a 336 game PC with 40 games heavily played (plus pirated games in some quantity with some (large) amount of playtime) vs $1477 for a 20 game xbox 360 with 14 games heavily played
To add on to this, I just recently got a WiiU, and I spent:
>$300 for the console (which came with MK8)
>$45 on Sm4sh
>$6 on Bayo 1
>$60 on 3 WiiU Pro Controllers
>$20 on a Gamecube controller
Which has already come out to almost $450.
And this doesn't even take into account the other games I need to buy (Bayo 2, W101, Xenoblade X, possibly Super Mario 3D World, Splatoon, and a few others).
Though it is definitely worse for Nintendo, they have a tendency to keep their game prices sky fucking high.
>You don't have to change thermal paste, dismantle the thing to clean fans, upgrade, watch your "temps" and all that shit. It's also very rare that a game is broken to the point you are unable to play it on consoles.
>having to exaggerate shit just to prove a point
Those things you mentioned about thermal pastes and cleaning rarely ever happens. And broken games are rare as well for PC.
I'd like to add a timeframe for both devices
Xbox was my primary gaming device from christmas 2007 to christmas 2011
PC was and is my primary gaming device from christmas 2011 to now, so roughly the same period of ownership (4 years)
The PC is beginning to feel its years but the cost of new parts would be about the same as the cost of an xbone or ps4 as the majority of the system is still holding together.
Also worth mentioning is that I no longer give a shit about handheld gaming while in the xbox period I had a $200 DS with 4 $70 pokeman games and a $50 piracy card
I have a brother who's looking to upgrade as well.
Do you already have a prebuilt toaster with an i5 or an i7?
The low power consumption of the card should pretty much guarantee that you can just put it in your toaster and everything should work.
I would probably recommend the gtx 950 instead. It's no beast but it's stronger than console with a fairly big margin.
However it uses slightly more power and costs a bit more.
I am curious, how many watt would a system with a gtx 950 need?
980/ti both take small bounds ahead of the 970 from what I've seen, but I'm still going to buy a 970 because my replacement parts build (i5-4690k, msi-z97g5, msi-970, core3500 case) is already at $1,225 dollary-doos and I'm not willing to substitute this $500+ card for a $1,000+ 980ti.
From the graph posted earlier in this thread I'm pretty sure that the 980ti can get fucked if they're asking another $500-600 for a !!!!10%!!!! marked increase in performance and muh vram.
Beware of the lengths of the cards when you're buying a 970 because the gigabyte-G1970 is 31cm long and will fuck your HDDs and cables up. It also has 3 god damn fans on it, like zenix or some other brands.
>the lack of speccy in this thread
Deplorable. Post 'em.
I get 60 fps in Fallout 4 on max settings except in Boston, although I don't think even SLI'd Titan X's get a solid 60 either. Game is unoptimized as fuck.
17 games of the 40 games I have 10 hours in are PC exclusive and not free to play
9 PC exclusives non free to play with 100 hours or more
1 PC exclusive freemium game I've dropped money in at 200 hours (Planetside 2, $20, falls under the $100 PC misc money)
I also own all the cross-plat games I had on xbox on steam
>google searched "cool looking graphics cards"
>mine is the second one
i have the second best graphics card ever made
Pretty much any basic system will need a maximum of 500W which will give plenty of excess and allow the PSU to run cool and comfy. I'm on 450W which will probably keep my future 970 happy.
If you're going insane with your PC which is very silly then you could go higher than 500W but it's pretty pointless unless you really really really need it to support whatever disaster is being created.
Make sure it's not a cheapo chinese PSU that will burn down your PC and your house, because they exist in great numbers, but also don't go for some 3lit3 gam3r $300 PSU because das dumb
>not wanting more people in the PC gaming community
Fuck you. More people means more reason for devs to release more games on it. Why do you care if people who like something you don't are using the same platform as you?
>tfw don't play anything graphically intensive anyway
Only 300? I expected something like 400-500 watt.
300 as in, just enough to power the components, or as in enough to run things stable?
My brother does have a 300 watt power supply in his toaster. If he got a gtx 950, would it actually work fine under full load or would he get bluscreen?
>300 as in, just enough to power the components, or as in enough to run things stable?
People overestimate how much wattage you need for a stable build.
Just for comparison, a PC with 7 R9 Nanos and a 28-core hyperthreaded server CPU draws around 1550 watts at full load.
A PC with a single R9 Nano and an i5 4690k draws around 450 watts.
PCs don't really use that much power, a fucking hot plate draws more wattage than the average high-end gaming PC.
dude if your poorer, just get a gtx 750 2gb, they go on sale all the time on newegg for 99.00 sometimes lower with wail in rebates andshit. I've always gone with Zotac for my past 3 cards and havent been let dwon yet with em. got a gtx960 right now, gonna upgrade when the new pascal cards drop later this year
I've had it for 5 years and it's finally starting to show its age.
I'm scooping out the insides and putting together the listed machine in April.
Assuming he has a GTX 950, an i5 4460, a 7200 RPM HDD, a blu-ray drive, a wireless card, 1337 g4m3r garbage, and a 120mm fan, load wattage would be ~288 watts.
So just to be safe, if he had a low-mid-tier gaming PC, I'd suggest at least 350 watts.
Alright thanks for the info.
So his system has an i5 2400. if that's paired with a gtx 950, everything should work perfectly even on a 300 watt power supply, correct?
That would be great news for my brother. He's a real poorfag.
Fuck fallout 4 man, everything is nice and good then you get to the top of corvega and BAM, drops down to the high 40s.
Oh look, PC pseudogamers that think graphics actually mean anything.
Here's a hint, shitstains: it ain't graphics that make PC gaming better than consoles. It's everything else. Graphics don't mean shit for gaming. Modern gaming is all about graphical clusterfuckery at the expense of actual quality gameplay, as well as feeling like they need to have some sort of overblown, intrusive story bullshit to go along with their pretty fucking graphics because suddenly they think that having pretty graphics means gaming has to emulate movies or TV.
Fuck that shit. Gaming is best when you can run your game on a fucking toaster and it has quality gameplay. If you paid more than a few hundred bucks for your PC because you needed some overblown graphics card and a souped up, overheating, power-sucking processor (as well as a fucking power supply that could provide a good sized third world nation with power), you're an idiot.
Go play good, old games. Now. Some may be nearly as old as you are or even older, and some may have pixels the size of your tiny little head, but don't be afraid and don't judge the quality of a game by its graphics, because that is fucking stupidity.
It's dropped down to 15fps for me in certain parts of boston
look how nice it looks though
yea you'll be fine. I've got a Corsair cs450m in my rig, and never had any problems. got it for on sale for 59.99$+ a 30$ rebate so it was really only 29$.No weird noises or whines or anything.
The "mid-range gaming PC" is self-contradictory.
There is literally no point in buying a PC that already has major issues running games
>but muh budget
If you can't afford a high-end PC, then literally buy a console. It will unironically work better for you
I thought the gtx 960 was more of a 1080p card?
I have a gtx 680 which should perform fairly close to a gtx 960.
It's a great card, but framerates in modern games on ultra gives me like 40 fps or less, I think.
at 1080 everything is above 60 unless you play crysis 3
You want to know what REALLY ruined PC gaming? This piece of shit.
Yes, MAC ruined PC gaming. Notice how all the artsy fartsy games like Gone Home also have Mac versions. Notice how toasterware and assfaggots also have Mac versions. PC was fine until those fucking Mac hipsters came along with their overpriced laptops.
yea it can look really pretty sometimes and comfy as fuck. And no I wasnt trying to make Hitler this is what I really look like lol
Nah, the sweet-spot for a PC is the $600-$900 range.
Within that range you can build a great PC that can tackle most (if not all) new games on high/max settings at 1080p60.
Hell, my 280x can even play games like Crysis 3 on high at 1440p and maintain 60 FPS.
The point is why do you have a "gayman" PC if the only good games are games that will run on your toaster just fine?
Consoles are garbage, "gayman" PCs are garbage. Buy a cheap PC, play good old PC games/old emulation.
>Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators
I was with you until you said that retarded garbage.
>had a gts 450 since 2010
>just upgraded to r9 390
>that huge jump in performance
>trying to convince others to get the same shitty setup you have
Crysis 3 is one of those games that pretty much always looks better in motion.
Shame the game itself is crap, glad I got it for free.
The switch from AGP to PCIE was when the cancer really begun. Steam releasing HL2 completely killed PC gaming over night. PC gaming was on its deathbed with DRM like securom and Valve came in and did the finishing blow. It's worse than just death, PC gaming is just a shitty version of console gaming.
>You also have to take care of your PC over the years/months.
who the fuck doesn't take care of their expensive electronics already?? are you 12?
>You are going to encounter lot of issues, while building and then go though lot of bullshit. It takes a whole afternoon to build and set up everything.
Oh nOes not a WHOLE afternoon! Shits fun setting up your new rig/room
>Everyone is playing Dota 2 and CS. Exclusives are either meme games or autism simulators. The only relevant games are basically broken console ports I could already play on console.
Just because you only play a few games doesn't mean everyone does
>No AAA exclusives
What? Pretty much all AAA games are multiplats, timed exclusives, or PS4/XBox One + PC. Exclusives are pretty much a dead concept aside from Nintendo, games that are true exclusives actually become noteworthy for that fact like Bloodborne. Also this post ignores how AAA games are buggy even on consoles nowadays. Almost every major online game launch on console is a disaster, Playstation Network is shit and Halo MCC multiplayer was broken for a month. The idea that consoles "just work" simply isn't true anymore.
>had a HD 7870 for 4+ years now
>runs everything I want to play at 1080 if not on all high settings
I'll have to rebuild the whole fucking thing though this summer since I got a out-dated pin set cpu and motherboard.
games in this image, oblivion, sims 3 and fallout 4
also a few others I can no longer remember, sims 3 originally wasnt on the list.
>inb4 supcom runs on a toaster
>inb4 terraria runs on a toaster
both are more CPU intensive than a used $100 dell piece of shit can handle and both like to have 4GB of RAM
You're just stating your subjective feelings as objective facts. You haven't really contributed anything valuable to the thread besides "Stop liking what I don't like!"
BTFO. and this list doesnt even have MOST games that are fun as hell on PC
I liked CivV but not as much as the older Civs for some reason. Terraria is one of the few games I really enjoyed. The rest of those games did absolutely nothing for me.
Opinions, I guess, man. But damn, I seriously just cannot take most of modern gaming seriously. The games are either horrible at control and/or gameplay or try to be some overblown heavy story-driven drivel, or some other bullcrap.
Id stay away from Seagate as far as HDD go, they blow. Id get a western digital if I were you. Also dont get the micro board if youre not building a miniPC. Go with the Asus B85M-G. great board and its inexpensive and you'll have a little room to upgrade
Yeah, I know. Opinions. But damn, it just really gets to me where gaming has gone these days and how I've gone from liking a huge chunk of gaming because it was actually good to hating it because modern games fly in the face of everything that made older games good.
These were the results.
I suppose it would be wise to invest in a slightly better power supply.
But damn, 300 was close to be enough.
Did I do a mistake getting 2gb R9 380 instead of 4gb one
So far its been easily enough but devs seem to be getting lazy and ugly games keep using more and more vram without any visible improvements
right now youre spending 217 for your RAM,CPU and MoBo. You can spend 60 more bucks and get an i5, a better MoBo and better RAM
Again, don't buy shit GPUs and you won't have to worry about a 400 being shit. And you don't need that much headroom, unless you're drawing very high 300s constantly you won't have any issues.
it's overstated a lot as a meme but I have an FX8370
because I fell for the AMD memeand my CPU rating is somewhere around 20-50.
My ping as an australian is usually around 300 though so I often get told to fuck off and come back with an i7
Honestly I don't think you'd have many troubles with an older GPUs wattage if you're not going to be stressing it with games on high settings. The 316W recommended is just to give you a comfortable excess in power so as not to drive your PSU too hard and wear it down/make it run loud/hot.
It states that under load you'd be pushing 266W, which is when you're doing something graphically-intensive like playing new/intense/poorly-optimised games. While this means that under load your PSU is nearing 90% wattage, as I said, it won't be a problem if you're not really pushing your graphics, and it probably won't use nearly that much otherwise.
This site gives you an estimate of how much you'll be using when idle as well as when under load, so you can think of where you'd be sitting when running whatever games or programs you do.
or here just have a look for yourself at these kits. I bought one when I built my last pC and saved some cash, not a whole lot, but about 40$
Honestly only the lighting makes the game look good, once we get mods that retexture the whole game I think it'll look 1000x better
Honestly, you really want to get at least an i5 if you're gonna go AMD.
In fact, even if you're going Nvidia, if you're doing anything higher than a GTX 950, you should be looking at at least a mid-range i5.
>tfw AMD cpu
>tfw stuck with this pos until the end of the year when zen releases
yea right now Ive got the Landscape Overhaul mod, and it looks nice. Just seen that real weather mod, with rain and snow and shit,looks cool I'll prob check it out here tomorrow
>tfw AMD APU
>bottlenecks poorly-optimized games
>built a gayming PC last year
>hoping I will finally experience the full glory of gaming everyone's memespouting about
>GTA V constantly drops to mid 40s fps-wise when try to turn sliders slightly above high settings
>Witcher 3 stutters all the time, especially in Novigrad
>the only benefit I have is emulating PS2 games with widescreen hacks and antialiasing
Is this a good card? Got it for $250...
out of the 10 people I know who bought a 2XX series AMD card (so 210-295) 4 failed; 3 last year and 1 earlier than that
also I've seen 280X failure rate being posted on /v/ a few timers by Nvidia fanboys so there's that
>Mfw I run GTA V at 1440p60 on very high settings (with post FX on high), extra shadow distance on max, and long shadows)
>the only benefit I have is emulating PS2 games with widescreen hacks and antialiasing
You're gonna be even more pissed when you learn a Core 2 duo and GTX 260 can do the same.
that'd be poor optimization in those games and not anything to do with your build; settle for medium with some games tho anon and in future dont buy a 970 to settle for medium, get a $200-$300 card for that.
This is the whole reason why Nvidia is a meme, either you pay $400 for settings on medium or you pay $500+ for a GPU (why would anyone do this)
I don't feel the need to upgrade my 7870 just yet. The games that require more power are mostly garbage anyway.
I'm hoping Pascal is going to be that massive leap in performance that is hyped up to be. I skipped the last upgrade because I was comfy with this build.
Given that SSDs are still a gorillion times more expensive than existing HDDs and they aren't even handled by the most jewish company since BoA, I'd say that unless you're born into royalty you may as well buy what you want now, because it isn't going anywhere.
yea its prob gonna be crazy the first couple months after they drop, but I think it'll be okay within 2 months time. Im more worried about having to go to windows 10 for dx12. Guess I'll just have a dual boot
>Guess I'll just have a dual boot
I'll probably do the same.
Although, at this point, it'll be triple booting, since I have Windows Vista (I don't know why I haven't formatted that entire partition yet) and Windows 7 already.
Thank god I found some old HDD and popped it in, those extra 600 GB will come in handy.
SSD are dropping like crazy man, you can get a 120gb for 40$ now, instead of the 80$ they were 6 months ago, also when they new cards drop, it'll cause the current gen cards to go down a little in price, so if theyre crazy expensive, then Ill just grab a gtx 980ti
How important is 80+ gold efficiency when buying a power supply?
Does it matter much or is it just jewing? I don't want to pay more than I have to but I also don't want my computer to break or my house to burn down.
GPU runs 55-60 at idle, was just playin vidya
yea i know i was just joking about the 10x performance thing, just cause it said it in the headline, but if you read the article even they said that it wouldnt translate to 10x in games, it'll likely be 2-4%. I am excited about the new memory model though
Woah, I actually had the exact same experience. I was like 14 at the time and had to use my own money to build my PC, and I was utterly crushed when that fucking thing melted and died on me. I was from a poor family so money was a big deal.
Fuck the 8800. Wasted weeks of my life at a shitty convenience store.
Anything over 80+ bronze should be fine.
80+ gold and 80+ titanium are really just if you REALLY need to sustain a consistent wattage/amperage that's in line with your PSU's specs.
Cheap/old PSUs can blow-up/catch fire/wreck yo shit. You're dealing with up 240v/12amp and that's enough to kill a man.
80+ Bronze PSUs are considered to be the cheapest and most affordable of enthusiast PSUs. You must be a special kind of destitute to be unable to afford a $50 PSU.
I just don't want to accidently get rid of any data since that's the drive that holds a LOT of my data (D:).
I'm not sure how well it'd cope with me deleting all the Windows crap on it.
>fell for the Best Buy prebuilt meme
>need to upgrade mobo and CPU but Windows 8.1/10 is registered to OEM
Should I just off myself now? I don't see why I would have to buy a new copy of Windows when I already have one.
Why do you care so much Anon? I must have a fan in you <3
>all these damn kids
No, this is the card that opened the floodgates.
>first 2D/3D card that costs peanuts
>impeccable performance for money
i only play csgo, guild wars 2, and system shock (because its all i can fit lol)
>Budget PC gaming
What is the point here? One of the major selling points of a PC is access to the strongest components on the market. Unless you need a machine for CS and DOTA you are better off just buying a console until you care enough about video games to actually invest into the hobby.
I was actually aiming for the 750ti for my little brother but I found a 960 for 160 bucks so now he's got a bit of more extra power and it does him great I got it paired with a Intel G3258
>that opened the floodgates of shitty teenagers, third-world shitskins, bronies, etc into PC gaming communities.
>implying the "PC master Race" wasn't already infested with these faggots over 16 years ago
It's like you never played the original CS or DotA. At the time, those games were considered the worst communities in gaming. Chance are you were probably one of them, or even worse were even too young.
You can get a lot more than a console for the same cost. hen there is a lot of more games and you don't have to pay a subscription fee if you want to play online games.
Also it's a great investment if you want a good desktop PC.
I have a 750tti too Anon-chan and i'm very happy with it.
Could finally play Hitman Absolution in 1080p and 60fps.
Also played on this card:
Serious Sam on Uktra in 1080 around 80-100fps
For a budget of 400 bucks i'm pretty happy
Now i'm going to spent 60 bucks on a ssd
So if I wanted to make a nice build for playing on 1080p what should it have?
Just a nice consistent 60fps on as many games as possible.
I want this for college, are there any good things coming out in/before August worth waiting for?
Anons what if I told you regardless of platform vidja is currently a gigantic ripoff? Cause that's the troof rite thur, buddy.
By all means though continue to argue like a bunch of fucking plebians.
980ti is just enuf to max locked 60fps witcher 3 at 1080 with max hairwurks
My phone specs:
>Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 2.46 GHz Quad Core
>Adreno 330 GPU, 578 MHz memory, 330 MHz core
>3 GB DDR3 RAM
>64 GB internal SSD storage
>Android 5.1.1 Cyanogenmod
Congrats anon, your PC is almost as weak as a high-end tablet.
I just replaced my old 8800GT with this exact model a month ago.
Worked kinda shitty at first, but lately it kinda works fine, I think I can finally crank up the graphics a bit.
Honestly, I don't get why people think you need crazy GPUs to play at higher than 1080p.
I'm running a 280x and not only is my native res higher than 1080p, but I can even downsample from 1440p with VSR and get great performance in most games on high/very high settings.
Should mention, my current build has an Intel i7 2600, 8gb DDR3 ram and a 2gb 6970.
No idea if I want to go with AMD again or move to Nvidia.
Are AMD CPUs worth looking into?
Just want something to handle playing as many games as possible at 1080, and be good for making games on and modelings, using Unreal Engine SDK and Blender.
Might get some of the AutoDesk software too if my classes need me to have that.
I see you're blind.
That's okay, I don't mind.
Honestly, at 1440p I doubt you'd need anything more than 4x SMAA.
That image I posted is running with 2x SMAA and it does a decent job on jaggies.
Intel makes the best grafics cards
They are finally entering the GPU market with this baby
its 20% better than a titan
If your pc is for gaming mostly, then I don't think you're in need of a cpu upgrade yet.
Unless maybe you go fora 980ti or amd equivalent, and even then I don't think it will bottleneck your gpu.
I'd say same as this person when it comes to the gpu >>324473962
970 if you want more than 60 fps
Upgraded my computer last year from toaster to gtx 970 + i5 4690 + 8gb ram. Most pointless purchase I made all year. Only games that require you to have high tier computers are witcher 3 and arkham knight, aka bad games. Maybe VR will make it worth having an expensive computer, but I doubt it.
Yea, you're probably right since it blocks less of the HUD in most games, but I've gotten used to it at this point.
pic related is best board. I has browns.
and yes, the CUE software is as shitty as everyone says
>no key puller tool on the RGB version
This is the /v/ and /g/ approved list after weeks of voting.
Pny won because of lifetime warranty, best cards and Nivida only trust them to make their quadro cards for a reason
they forgot to finish the art mate
Went MSI this time but if the strix cards keep up their quality in say 3 to 5 years, probably gonna go with them. Have an asus mobo though, best boards
Whats a good modern CPU to get? I'm building a whole new rig, not just upgrading my current one.
Will a 970 be enough? I'm kind of worried about it because I want to see some significant improvement over my AMD 6970.
skylake i7 if you can afford it and do stuff besides games, the i5 if gaymen is all you're in for
the 4690k is serving me well but I don't think they're making an unlocked broadwell i7 for me to upgrade to
I know, the box art really has gone downhill. I just want my metal men back.
>buying a 970
sure, if you can handle
that isn't a GPU
I built my very first computer back 4 years ago, by sheer luck I settled on the 560ti for my card. Up until this most recent year, I've had no trouble running any new games at high/very high settings. Its a fucking champion.
I'm looking into swapping it out for a 970/980 within the year
i3 if you're poor but AMD doesn't have any upgrade options at a later date; an FX6300 beats an i3 in applications that can use all 6 cores (fuck all) but otherwise the i3 is better
the FX8350 on the other hand beats the i3 but is just straight up worse than an i5/i7
also the 'lower cost' of AMD gets balanced by higher power draw and more expensive MOBOs
source: I fell for the meme and bought an 8350
Worst thing about PC is that there are no good games to play with your $500 GPU
PC is just a legacy machine and an ASSFAGGOTS machine for normies
I spend all of my time on my 3DS
I'm thinking of this at the moment
But I might replace the CPU and GPU to something bigger.
Going to be playing games, using Blender and Unreal Engine 4 SDK on it. Possibly some light AutoDesk suite, like Inventor, AutoCAD and Revit. But I'm not too worried about how much that eats up because even the shitty prebuilts that my high school used back when I was in it could handle Revit.
Before you criticize my hard drive choice I have a lot of files and need room for stuff. Not sure about the SSD size, but I definitely need an HDD that big, actually 3tb would do but I heard 3tb HDDs are really shitty compared to 2tb and 4tb.
I'm going with a mini-ITX for a nice small college build that won't take up much room in my dorm, and to be able to move and transport easily so I'm not lugging a full tower to LAN with friends.
After college I plan on building a much beefier computer for 4k and shit or whatever is out in like 5 years from now, but I want to keep this little one to bring to LAN parties and such even after I build that big one.
You said it yourself.
PC gaming *initially* isn't cheap, and building it yourself isn't being done anymore because it's cheaper than a prebuilt. Offcourse fanboys will tell you otherwise because they're hopeless underageb& fanatics that'll spout anything to forward their agenda.
>lie about the "games" it has
PC these days has so many shit games you might as well say it has nogaems. Anything worth it usually doesn't need anything better than a 750ti.
>there's plenty of PC games out there if you dont have terrible taste ie
FPS are complete trash, always have been
The goldenage of PC gayman is long gone. The only good thing about PC were the RPGs. Pretty immersive.
right now im having loads of fun playing Xcom, Witcher 3, GTAV, Transformers:Devestation,Insurgency,Squad(really fucking fun),Lords of the Fallen. Those are just what Im currently playing. Yes there is multiplats on that list, but I dont care, I dont own a console and I didnt start the whole PC has better games thing, I just think PC is better experience overall. I mod everygame I can, theres loads better server options. recording/editing is easier, I also play Dolphin emulator quite often, playing gamecube games in 1080 and 60fps is nice, especially mariokart Double dash with friends and melee.Yea there are games on consoles that Id like to play, but I'd rather have PC over a couple exclusives.