Why are Mario/Nintendo platformers so praised? I picked up Super

I dare you to say that about Champions Road.

>>324289937
>Why are Mario/Nintendo platformers so praised?
You mean as opposed to other platformers, or when compared to games in general?

Maybe platformers just aren't your kind of game.

>>324290208
>post-endgame shit
next you tell me Kirby is hard because of True Arena

Play 64 and Sunshine. Far better than their newer stuff.
And I hope you just mean 3D platformers, because if you haven't played 2D and/or think they're bad you might be underage.

>>324290378
It's a game meant for families anon, my mother and little brother really enjoy the game. If you want challenge go for the bonus levels and green stars.
>Co-oping 3-3
Just don't.

Why is Mario so fucking whitewash lately?

The platformers, the RPG's and all that just revolves around generic Mario-ish shit.

Is Shiggy going senile?

>>324289937
the first worlds are tutorial levels and quite easy.

Almost a third of the content is postgame and quite challenging, the last game has champions road, which is the hardest Mario level ever, expect to lose over a hundred times there if you try to beat it with Mario and no power ups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV8iKNtSVwc

maingame is like 6/10 in difficulty

postgame 8/10

and crown world 10/10

>>324290378
This.
While Champion Road was nice, it was literally the only level where you had to make an effort to beat.
Wish they made harder Mario games. They say Wool Yoshi is hard but i really doubt that.

>>324290764
Mario is Kids Bop of videogames

>>324290658
>It's a game meant for families anon
this is why OP should just stop playing 3D Mario games pass Galaxy and just play the romhacks.

they aren't going to go full Kaizo on the levels anytime if they are going to leave a hand to casuals/"newblood" all the freaking time

3D world is fucking pathetic and unambitious. Considering how amazing the Galaxy games were, it's insulting how the developers decided to make a sequel to the 3DS Game of all things.

>>324290329
I like platformers, I just don't understand the gameplay value of something so easy and quick. It's over before you know it.

>>324290450
I will do later on, sucks I have to emulate them though my pC is kinda shitty.

>>324289937
>Super Mario 3D World
is not representative of Mario platformers. Go play 1-3, world, land 1-4 and NSMBDS/NSMB wii when you've exhausted those.

>>324291093
shut up fag

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>>324289937
Yeah, I dont get it either, 3D world aint that good at all.
Mario 64 and Galaxy are god tier platformers however.

>>324290208
Unlocking Champions Road is actually harder than the level itself.
So much tedious and boring collecting it's surprising people get it done without falling asleep while playing

>>324290835
>postgame
>difficult

Only Champions Road

ITT retards who don't play video games try to talk about them

>>324289937
I still think they never had a 3D Mario in development, maybe it was pushed to the NX by now.
It feels more like it was supposed to be a sequel on the 3DS.

I mean, consider how in the beginning Bowser holds the bottled fairy towards the player/camera.

>>324289937
>SM3DW

game is meant to be played as a comp platformer with 4 of your buddies. If you want a hard nintendo platformer on the WiiU you should have gotten Tropical freeze

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQq7SbtlGkI

>>324292031
>I mean, consider how in the beginning Bowser holds the bottled fairy towards the player/camera.
Are you trying to say that that was included to show off 3D or something?

He's just showing the players, mainly the younger ones that he just kidnapped the fairy and that she's not cool with it.
They're just showing that he's the bad guy.

>>324290764
>why is Mario so Mario
I don't know maybe because it's fucking Mario dumbass.

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>Platformers have to be Super Meat Boy/Kaijo mode to be good.

There's a million japs playing Super Mario Maker that are about to make your fucking day, OP.

>>324292668
>Are you trying to say that that was included to show off 3D or something?

Yes


>>324292475
I was disappointed with SM3DW, mainly because of the lack of any challenge (except for Champions Road)

But luckily Retro Studios didn't fail to deliver

>>324293193
>not just enjoying the creativity of the level design and obstacles

Game was fun as fuck. It had a lot of fun ideas that were executed very well.

>>324290764
NSMB sold a bazillion copies, so now every Mario game, spinoffs and all, needs to look exactly like it.

>>324293193
>But luckily Retro Studios didn't fail to deliver
the hell? were they there during 3DW's development?

>>324294694
He was referring to Tropical freeze in the post he quoted

>>324294060
I only enjoyed it with multiplayer.
When playing solo I just don't have any fun with the game

Mario was never good

>>324294802
oh, my bad

>>324294915
You spelled Sonic wrong

>>324295071
You spelled wrong wrong

>>324291234
What platformers do you like?

>>324293036
>There's a million japs playing Super Mario Maker
5 year old japs*

>>324290835
What's hard about that?

The error margin seems huge

mario went to shit after galaxies. and even those werent that great

>>324290876

That thread got deleted before it became a meme anon

>>324295486
Nah Mario went to shit after Donkey Kong.

I love 64 because it gives you a bunch of movements, so you can actually do something in those endless empty spaces all 3d mario have, which also gives some replayability.

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>>324295572
Shut up DK, just mad he didn't inside Pauline after Mario whooped his ass

>>324295840
>he thinks Cranky Kong is modern Donkey Kong

Unless you're talking about those Mini Mario games, in which case, lol

>>324295071
you meant Metroid, ya twit

>>324289937
Game has a really slow difficulty curve but it actually gets harder. You must realize Nintendo makes games for everyone, not just for the long time fans but also for the newcomers.
Plus, unfortunately, many people complained with Nintendo about Galaxy games' difficulty. So they decided to tone it down in 3D Land and World. But yeah, the last 3D World levels are very challenging anyway, created exactly for long time fans.

>>324292692
im mad that paper mario and M&L removed everything that made them unique

>>324296128
clearly you meant Crash, nigger

>>324290835
>nintendo fanboys think this level is hard
compared to the rest of the game yes but having played the game I'd describe the difficulty as more like
>maingame 2/10
>postgame 4/10
>crown world 6/10

>>324296284
>implying you don't mean Banjo Kazooie

>>324296163
I dunno about toning down difficult so much as they made the 3D Land/Worlds games so you never have to worry about controlling the camera, which of course makes the game easier to play.

>>324289937
Get some friends

The later levels in 3D world are just about the same difficulty as anything in 64, Sunshine, or Galaxy. I don't see what the problem is.

>>324290835
>that massive frame drop at the three Kammies
wew

Because mario can literally run so fast, he reaches parallel universes. That's pretty neat.

3D world is a comfy game

Having said that, there are only like 2 or 3 hard levels in this game

>>324298636
>want to walk backwards
>he walks forwards instead
Bravo Nintendo.

>>324291234
> I will do later on, sucks I have to emulate them though my pC is kinda shitty.
You can open vWii mode and download SM64 from the internets.
Also, there's Nintendont, which lets you play GC games on WiiU.

>>324289937
All the other 3D titles blow 3D World out of the water

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Why do they keep including this guy? He's easy as fuck. I genuinely believe no one could possibly die to him.

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Is Super Mario Sunshine the hardest Mario game?

>>324299645
3DW is better than 3DL. That's it though. 3DL is pretty much trash. But it's trash with a lot of levels, god damn.

>>324289937
Still better than Sunshine. Fuck that game.

>>324299834
For the wrong reasons. SMG2 is the hardest of the well designed Mario games

>>324299834
Hardest 3D Mario maybe but Lost Levels is harder

>>324295372
>implying japs reproduce

ror

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I bet you're playing alone you fucking retard. You're the kind of guy that buys Mario Party and plays against the CPUs and complain it's boring that you have no one else to play with.

3DW was a letdown for me, but I still enjoyed it, I guess. I was really hoping for a Galaxy 3, and instead I got the stupid isometric camera, short level, multiplayer game. Seriously, did the camera screw anyone else up? I had a hard time nailing jumps because I couldn't tell exactly where Mario would land. And I've 100%-ed every Mario platformer. And the final boss was terrible... you didn't even have to fight him Mario-a-mano.

Champion's Road won back some points, but still... we deserved a "real" Mario game.

>>324289937
I bet you played EZ mode Peach

>>324289937

I think you are supposed to play it with friends

3D world is not a good Mario game, sorry that 90% of this board is now run by retarded Reddit fanboys. How anyone can play the galaxy games and go into praise these insanely easy "land" games is beyond me

>>324305136
>not enjoying both

You're the real faggot around here, bud.

>>324305903
I'm sorry I'm not 10 years old anymore like you, just because a game has pretty colors n lots of zany sounds doesn't make it good. Maybe if you had a girlfriend you wouldn't spend so much time defending a game made for infants on an a Chinese cartoon forum

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>>324306457
Excellent post friend

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Parallel universes

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>>324307356
>I build my speed for 12 hours.

>>324301230
Holy shit my sides.

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>>324307619
TWELVE HOURS
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SM3DW is harder the more people you have playing it. If you beat everything on 1 player, congrats, you beat the easiest mode. Try completing the game 100% with 4 people, and I guarantee you will no longer think the game is "too easy".

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>>324307356
Spoonfeed me
where did this maymay come from?

>>324307356
>/v/ is seriously turning this into a meme
I don't know which one is more autistic...

>>324290876
>Mario is Kids Bop of videogames
That's pretty funny, I hope it catches on

>>324294915
Yoshi's Island is the greatest game of all time though

>>324289937
3D World is better with friends, but it's still a nice relaxing romp through the Mushroom Kingdom by yourself

>>324308874
Comes from some Omega Level Autists explaining how to glitch SM64 so you get a start with only pressing A not once but half-pressing it (this is another term he explains)

It involves running backwards into a wall for 25 hours

How far are you into the game?

>>324299834
it was only hard because it
-had awful camera angles and was hard to not fall off of things
-did not have clear objectives
still was a great game, but i keep stopping at certain points just because it's boring after so long

>>324289937
You are playing a video game made for children, what do you expect?

>>324308874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

>>324307356
>>324307619
That guy proved to me that Mario has the deepest gameplay.

Why do people act like mario games have to be the next call of duty

Legitimate autism and nostalgia goggles defending shitty games

>>324312050
Nice ad hominem you got going there

Any legitimate arguments against these games? We'd love to hear 'em

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>>324299978

name a better 3D platformer so I can laugh at you

>>324289937

Threads like these are as stupid and redundant as "does anybody else think_______?" threads

Its not universal if you don't get you don't get it. no one here is going to convince you otherwise.

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>>324312245
I just love the strange designs of these levels.

>>324312238
This isn't debate club, child.

>>324290867
most of the hardness is the 1-touch deaths that Yoshi Island had. That and the #-S levels all had 0 checkpoints which required a ton of trial and error for some stages

>>324312245
Why can't 3D platformers have this kind of design in their open world hubs instead of instanced levels?

>>324310651
These guys are insane, I love it

The meme is shit though

>>324312245
I wish i was this good at these games, maybe then i would enjoy them. It's much easier to be good at 2d platformers.

>>324312245
>not doing it with 0 A presses

shit player

Is Mario the strongest vidya character of all time

>>324290835
>main game is 6/10

jesus christ. is this your first video game? there is literally zero urgency or skill needed for mario. 3d world is for all intents and purposes, shovelware because of how terribly designed and easy it is. its brainless open spaced trash

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>>324314041
Because you'll get really fucking tired of doing that sequence of jumps for the hundredth time.

Did anyone else know you can take control of shells? I didn't until the final challenge room where I did it by accident

>>324314041

Because Mario games are for kids. They released Sunshine, game that was harder than 64 and everybody shat on the game. So they will keep re-releasing Mario 64 and Mario Land over and over.

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>>324289937
This game shines mush brighter with multiplayer. Its seriously a ton of fun when you and your buddies are trying to get each other killed so they can be the one to score the most points.

>>324290764
Shiggy was going senile when he allowed a talentless western studio to turn Metroid into a generic FPS.

>>324314347
here you go

>>324312245
And people dare to say Sunshine is the worst.

>>324314795
It's far from being the best.

>>324315608
You cant do higher then No.1 bud.

>>324314748
Fun fact: Retro was forced to make the game into metroid prime

Just like how Good Feel was forced to change their game into epic yarn

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>>324314347
Flippity dippity doo, here's your (you)

>>324312245
its kinda sad that the new mario games forgo these jumping mechanics

I'm not even a big fan of the series but I can see why people slam mario 3d world

>>324314748
the metroid 3d series is good. Not sure I like the shadow one though.

>>324314748
Funnily you are right. But the metroid analogy is retarded.
Why not use the the thing he said about 3d world and 3d land, that people dont want 3d games like mario 64 and sunshine and everything should be 2d so he made sure that newer marios will be dumbed down 2.5d with a useless 3rd axis that dosent add much to the gameplay.

>>324315948
>>324314787
>someone calls my shitty game shit, they are soo baiting XD

Kill yourselves

>>324289937
I loved all the visual variety and weird new shit and the music in 3D World but yes, it is way too easy to the point where it hurts it a bit.

>>324316451
have another

>>324290835
I'm good with most touhou games, the sans fight, the true arena, and even fighting games to an extent, but I STILL haven't beaten that last fucking level.

>>324316706
Consume bleach

>>324316451
>>324316892

Congratulations, (You)

Suck my dick. Choke on it.

>>324316958
Drink battery acid, fatty

>>324317048
(You)'ve earned this, faggot.

>>324317135
Back to defending your garbage platformers kid

>>324317204
i'm feeling generous

>>324317204
Have one more, (You)'ve been good

>>324312245
Neato, if only every level in Sunshine was as exciting as that one.

>>324318341

Ironically, they were the most hated ones because "they were hard".

>>324318741
nah because they were bland and boring to look at.

kind of like your face. bitch.

>>324312245
I see now why everyone hates sunshine so boring

They have great physics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

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>>324319704

>>324301230

Pretty much, the game gets better the more people you add, except for the last level, that shit you gotta play it alone and with a calm mind.

>its fun with friends

lol

>>324320553

>send help, I'm lonely

Sorry to hear that anon.

>>324299834
Galaxy 1 is arguably as if not harder for some segments.
Sunshine is THE hardest if you do a no Jetpack/Rocket run.
Exception being any jump you have to use the Rocket for.
Cause you know those Fludd-less sections? Now the whole game feels like that.