Just started this game today on xbox. Been playing a mage. It's been fun so far. I like a lot of dialog. Do I have to level up all my party members and change there gear and shit? I really just want to focus on my character that I created. I don't care about the npcs!
>>324295870 Isabela had nice titties and Merril was cute But yeah I wanted to fuck Bethany Why bioware? I can have a threesome with Isabela in DA2, a foursome with her in DAO but fucking my sister is too much?
>>324296758 There was some stuff I liked in DA2 but the negatives pop up with gameplay. Boring combat, enemy waves that spawn out of the ground, quests taking place in the same damn environments with some passages blocked off. Maybe if it didn't have the dev time of an average Obsidian title it would've been better.
>>324297913 Why do you hate waifus? >>324298212 The combat was better than DAO and the waves never bothered me The recycled environments weren't that much of a problem because the game took part literally in the same places You go through dungeons many times because the game moves through time, not through space Act 3 was fucking rushed though
>>324299232 >Mom fucks off to backwater England with some rogue mage >Never speaks to family again even after parents died >Gamlen tries investing money but fails >Mom expects to be waited on hand and foot now her backwater hovel is getting raped by Darkspawn >Gamlen still gets you into the city by working as a merc or smuggler for one year
Gamlen was probably the most sensible person in that city. At least his daughter wasn't a total fuck up.
>>324300847 if they had kept him as the main antagonist for the game instead of pushing the MUH MAGES RAIGHTS plotline we're gonna get for the next 3 games, it would have been great. Especially if they just straight up gave you the option of joining him in his beautiful PURGE. Literally the only 10/10 character from that game.
>>324306482 Anders is a Thirsty mother fucker if you don't tell him straight up to fuck off. And even saltier if you romance anyone other than him if you don't flag his 'I don't ever want to romance Anders'. And I think he does it even if you picked a broken heart dialogue.
The guy bad mouths Fenris in a way saying 'his kind', so, Anders gets to be fantasy racist as well as a Mage rights terrorist
>>324296758 >Why are we supposed to hate DA2 again? Mostly memes.
It's not a solid game, the wave combat is nothing but annoying at its best, and I can sympathies with the quick development time and applaud how they got every bit of use out of their levels, but every bit of use made it get old by the end of act 1.
Its a shame the game didn't have more time, it was different than the normal stuff and had a lot of good ideas.
>>324303552 >Not gay romancing Merrill by constantly telling her she's a fucking idiot who needs to stop doing dumb shit and breaking her stupid mirror and fucking with her to the point that she relies on you
>>324308497 Story is good, act 3 is rushed but it's not bad story wise Environments are recycled because they are literally the same areas you visit in different times That was Anders somewhat possessed by the Spirit of Vengeance not actually Anders. Still a moron Merril is bioware's attempt at making a cute kawaii clutz. They sort of fucked up but not completely Combat is good and huge improvement Ending was rushed yes, fucking EA
>>324308739 It's a solid crpg with great characters, great roleplayeing and some cool lore The story is simple but works for what it's worth Gameplay is standard crpg fare
>>324309019 >improvement >da2 combat I wouldn't say that, 1 had it all with a good balance between semi action and tactical thinking, also first and foremost interesting and well thought out encounters 2 has a big focus on action with lots of trash mob and not so tactical
>you arrive in kirkwall, get inside the city >the game skips a whole year, the whole DA:O takes place >you decide to go to an expedition with a dwarf >find some red lyrium shit >the game skips 3 years >you're now rich and you bought your family estate back >retarded isabella steals qunaris book and they are not allowed to leave until they find it >along the way qunari decide to take over the city >you pretty much single handedly defeat them and you're named the hero of kirkwall >the game skips some time again >the whole mage vs templar thing takes place >mages all use blood magic and one of them turns into a flesh golem which was an unique one of a kind thing in DA:O proving the templars right >the templar bitch is crazy and they just want to murder all mages >you side with one of the retarded sides in the end >also anders blows up the chantry because he's a faggot terrorist
I much prefer the, i'm not sure how to say it but Origins had such a heavy feel to the executions for example that just made everything feel more cold and gritty 2 is just too comically violent in that regard for my taste
>>324309968 >>you decide to go to an expedition with a dwarf >>find some red lyrium shit >>the game skips 3 years There's a bunch of stuff in between those events.
You just have shit memory.
>retarded isabella steals qunaris book and they are not allowed to leave until they find it >along the way qunari decide to take over the city Thats not how that happened. Do you think being wrong will make your argument look more valid?
like >the whole mage vs templar thing takes place That kind of crap is happening the entire game. You really don't remember a thing, but that is your fault, not the games.
>>324310629 His replacement is a full blown SJW and the guy who retconned the Qun into accepting trannies. The franchise is better off dead. Hopefully Bioware gives it away to a better dev in a couple of years
>>324293516 Consider the fact that Bethany's breasts were larger in the opening tutorial of DA2. Remember that that section was Varric embelleshing everything. Her breasts are smaller when he stops making it over-the-top. This means that Varric took the time to describe Bethany's breasts to Cassandra. This was of utmost importance for him to describe from the first time she is mentioned.
>>324312039 One of the sad things is that the final part of each act was also supposed to have an embellished version you'd go through just like with the prologue but that idea was scrapped. It would've been fun to see what Varric's version of the Arishok fight would've been like.
The combat can get pretty fast once you have your bloodthirst + haste and I just like it because it's got such a weight and visceral feel to it, those finishers god damn, are they satisfying >that sound when your warden jumps on top of the ogre and the time slows down
>>324316851 would have been awesome if there was a hidden third option you had to actually explore and work towards throughout the entire game where you finally gain enough support to actually take over the entire place
bonus points for it requiring significant sacrifices throughout the game that don't have immediate payoff and possibly pissing off the majority of your party members
>>324320237 >So you think there being a lack of real player choice I don't agree that that is true.
>>324320361 >or how about where as a mage supporter, a rogue mage kidnaps your mom and you're unable to save her...but if you support the templars, a rogue mage kidnaps your mom and you're unable to save her. Why would your support of mages or lack thereof affect a madman serial killer?
There's no link between any of that.
Here's a heads up, in every game not every choice matters, and fuck even your last example is bad since having the respect of the arishok changes your interactions with him and how the final confrontation plays out. You'rte asking that you not being a shithead to him make him entirely turn his back on the Qun.
>>324320994 >Or they become a Grey Warden/Templar and are written out of the story until the climax. Or they are kidnapped and you need to save them, or they come along for the two dlc, and people talk about them and writing letters. The game doesnt act as if they are just gone, strange you want to.
>>324321145 >in every game not every choice matters no, but major choices should affect the plot in a game where the previous game ACTUALLY DID THAT. >You'rte asking that you not being a shithead to him make him entirely turn his back on the Qun. no, I'm asking that him interacting with hawke should affect how the qunari attack--perhaps they're more aggressive if you've been cowardly, or they allow you to come challenge the arishok to an honourable duel, allowing that entire setup to be bypassed.
the final boss situation should have been one or the other--either the templars fears are vindicated OR the templars go nuts.
>>324321324 >Because the head mage guy was protecting him He sabotaged Templar investigations, he can't go back in time and undo that after hes already killed your mother. What you ask isn't possible. Nor should it be expected, the game never indicates it should be.
>>324322054 >>324322118 >>324322260 So why would anybody side with mages? In Kirkwall they're all scumbags who resort to blood magic even when they don't need to. The only ones who seemingly don't are Hawk and Bethany.
>>324322663 >that is literally the worst excuse in the history of excuses How do you expect him to step in and save your mother because he likes your politics, if he has never heard of you? Hell he didn't even know people were being taken like this.
>>324322874 because DA2's storytelling was fucking awful, and didn't bother showing that there was a plight, and the mages were being forced into either using blood magic or being subjugated and/or having their mind flushed.
>>324322874 >In Kirkwall they're all scumbags who resort to blood magic even when they don't need to. We usually only see them do it when their other choices were death, or it was impossible to do it any other way.
>>324323109 Templars don't want to kill all the mages, they want to keep them in circles because a great many mages are fucking batshit insane. And even if they aren't insane, they wield an insane amount of power and there is a great potential for possession.
>>324323373 Templars as an organization no, Templars in kirkwall might as well have started chanting Heil Meredith because in their attempt to make that conflict grey they made both sides wrong and then asked you to pick between shit and vomit
>>324323591 >The Grey Wardens use a very disciplined form of blood magic for fanatics like Meredith that'd just mean they've been using blood magic so long and intensive they got good at it and need extra purging
>>324323643 >the templars weren't willing to just go genocide. Only because they lacked numbers, Gregor felt bad but he still called the rite of annulment and only pulled his templars out, he left every single mage inside.
He clearly valued the life of any non-mage above any number of mages.
>>324323643 however origins does imply the sheer power blood magic offers as well as a connection to demons ensures practicers start to suffer from absolute power corruption pretty quickly and there's several good reasons to not condone blood magic at all
>>324323905 >Gregor felt bad but he still called the rite of annulment and only pulled his templars out, he left every single mage inside. and felt terrible about it, hence why he allowed the warden and their party into the tower so they could either help the survivors not-yet posessed or at least end their suffering quickly.
>>324324332 Did you not understand the fucking dire situation they were in? It wasn't just a single mage being possessed by a powerful demon to make a super powered abomination, it was that abomination creating even more abominations out of the entire circle of mages
Some shit like that CANNOT be allowed into the world.
>>324324330 >Making your sister into Cuck Warden >Not letting her into the Circle where you can free/spare her in the End without the tait It's like you hate her. Also, she turns cold if she's a Warden.
The original statement was that the templars were not going to go in and kill all the mages, I take it from the fact you two are saying that such action was the correct choice that you agree with me that the Templars were going to do the thing you and they are advocating?
>>324324865 >You're kept in a prison where you may be killed without notice This never happens
>Most can't, those that can are given a spicial privilege to do so, meaning it isn't normal They all have the equal opportunity to earn that privilege.
>that's not up to them Grey Wardens are constantly in need of mages. You really think they can't volunteer when a Warden recruiter stops by?
>and that's not really freedom Being a Grey Warden is like the most freedom you can get. You don't have to obey laws and you can go anywhere you want.
>The most advanced civilization on the planet whose capital has never been captured Who also practice real slavery, are responsible for most of the magical wrongs in the world, and everybody sees them as evil pieces of shit
>>324323452 >been wanting to play as Elves in an RPG that doesn't make them look like they collectively have down syndrome. >try Skyrim and all the elves look pants on head retarded >try DA:Inquisition and all the elves (especially the males) look like anorexic versions of Zach Braff with a head twice the size of his body
Fucking christ, all I want to do is play as a normal looking elf.
>>324326417 >cut down on zone size from inquisition while adding more interesting quests or locations >build off what you've already established without so much tweaking
Find a way to improve the combat some and you've got a start. One of the issues with Inquisition is it was annoying to play on higher difficulties because the combat was still boring while enemies had that much more hp.
>>324327125 giving the player more options is a good way to improve combat sure DA:O had you fighting a lot of the same enemies over and over again but at least it allowed you to equip 20+ skills and a few dozen consumables so you could always vary it up a bit
>>324327569 You're the chosen one and must stop the magister who started the blight from stealing the power of the maker. Turns out you're not the chosen one and the magister is using old elven magic to enter the fade and it likely will destroy the world and kill him
>>324328220 That's such bullshit with they did with the Elven lore. They hamrammed into making it the "canon' belief. >lol We're implying the Maker is the old Elven god Bioshit seems to be too pussy to make anything remotely Christian. Also, hated what they did with the Qun. I didn't like it but I respected it was a different strict culture. Now, it's >We're so progressive!!!
>>324327569 You're the chosen who inadvertently gets magic green jizz on his hand that allows him to penetrate and close flying orifices that threaten the destroy the entire world.
You destroy the big baddie from DA 2 who has been raping the world with his magister dick but as it turns out, he wasn't the true villain. It was one of your companions. And the magical green jizz wasn't created by the big baddie but by a Quasi Elf god who basically revolted against his fellow quasi elf gods because they were sperging out with their OP as fuck power and basically enslaving their own race.
You eventually confront the magical quasi elf god and can either choose to destroy him (sometime in the future games maybe....that's a big maybe) or try and eventually win him back over to the Light side of the force because you don't want to kill your Bald elf bro. Also, your left arm gets cut off at the very end because the magic green jizz turned on you faster than a politician and was literally killing you.
>>324329026 The Qun is, as the other anon says, basically Islam. But in DA:I this gets retconned out the ass because Freddie Prinz Bara Qunari condones Krem's obvious tranny taint, saying she or he or it or whatever the fuck it is would make a fine soldier in the Qun.
Which doesn't make any sense because the Qun don't approve of women fighting, as stated by Sten in DA:O. Which basically meands a woman pretending to be a man would be just as looked down upon. Shit is retarded.
>>324329454 >Which doesn't make any sense because the Qun don't approve of women fighting, Thats a separate issue, Krem is considered a man to them. You disagreeing with that isn't a contrition for them.
>>324329775 Are you fucking retarded? Krem is a walking I REJECT MY STATION IN LIFE trope.
Guess what kinds of people the Qun hate the most? Those who reject their original and ordained station in life. Krem suddenly turning into a man would piss of the Qun something fierce, to the point they'd either drug her ass until she' was mind broken or just turned into a slave.
>>324329984 >Those who reject their original and ordained station in life. And for Krem, that is being a man, so again no contradiction. >. Krem suddenly turning into a man would piss of the Qun something fierce, You are provable wrong, and thus far it is only your supposition that says otherwise.
You've decide their stance on this issue, but it isn't viewed in the lens of "She became a he" its "He was always a he". Its your base assumption here that causes the issue, not something from the game.
>>324330183 >being a woman was her original intent That is your position, not something ever presented in game, in fact its clear Iron Bull believes the opposite so this is a position you hold being held as as if it should cause a contradiction .
>>324329984 >Those who reject their original and ordained station in life By this logic they would never accept runaway slaves, and Iron Bull would have been a soldier not a spy. So it doesn't really hold up.
>>324330368 She was born with a fucking vagina you massive shit lord. That makes her a woman. You're only arguing from the standpoint of an SJW, who seem to think that changing your hair and the way you dress suddenly makes you a different sex. Which is not the case. She was ORIGINALLY a woman. Deal with it.
>>324330810 >She was born with a fucking vagina you massive shit lord. That makes her a woman. That is your position, its wrong in reality in a addition to fiction. But in either event, your thoughts don't matter, and insisting you matter more is absurdly egotistical of you.
>>324330368 Why is someone a 'man' just because they want to be called a 'man'? I don't understand this thought process. I want people to call me 'Emperor' but they don't because i'm not a fucking emperor, how is this any different?
You want to be called a man because it helps with your dysphoria? Fine, i'm down with not making you more miserable, i'm all for it. Doesn't make you a man though.
>>324331017 Behold /v/. This is how the SJW argues. They fight back by not actually providing examples or substance to their arguments. They just say you're flat out wrong and seem to think that just saying it makes them right.
>>324325048 Writing as a whole was my biggest problem with DAII. If it really was made in 8 months like the "leak" said, BW did a great job. If development really started before DA:O released, they fucked up big
>>324332584 see again, nobody ever answers the question, nobody ever addresses the topic, they address the person asking it. never actually answering the question, or educating anyone about anything.
it's a laughable and deplorable lifestyle because of how the people who live it behave, not because of what it actually is. I have yet to meet one transexual person with the emotional maturity of even a small child. it's both depressing and hilarious.
Trans people are not the gender they say they are.
Trans people are the gender they say they are.
the first time we are introduced to the issue we find out the qunari agree with the second stance. Now you clearly agree with the first stance, but you holding the first stance doesn't make it a contradiction.
>but sten said women couldn't be warriors! but again, qunari accept trans people as the gender they say they are, so this doesnt matter. Its not somebody saying "I am a woman and a warrior" its "I am a man and a warrior" so there's no contradiction. you may disagree with the base premise, but its internally consistent.
perhaps if you could stop trying to fight your real world political battles here you might see the point.
Not that it will matter what you think either way.
>>324332486 No kidding. DA:I was actually really good for the most part. Still too shallow, and the dialog wheel is getting old, fast. Unfortunately though, it didn't do too well as far as sales go. Not compared to EA's lust, anyway. I have a feeling BW is going to be added to the EA Graveyard here in the next 5 years
>>324333091 >they did with that question no they didn't, they passed the buck and ran away.
asking me why I identify as a male is like asking someone why they think the sky is blue, because it is and because I am a dude. People like to believe that the world is complex and unique, it isn't, you aren't, it's all so simple.
I'm a man because I have a y chromosome and produce sperm. Simple.
>>324333519 Again, the qunari see trans people as the gender they say they are, so to them its a man being a warrior, I just said that. One is talking about women fighting, the other is trans people, these are not actually the same subject.
Jesus Fucking Christ, Anon. I've been gaming for too long to keep making myself as every protagonist in these types of games. It gets fucking old after a while, and it was more enjoyable to create brand new characters like I'm helping write the story. Only reason I'm doing it with Fallout 4 is because my first name is on the list of characters that the robot says out loud... and even that was a short gimmick that lost it's value immediately.
>>324333712 >If your balls got chopped off in some horrible snowboarding accident would you cease to call yourself a man? no because I would still have a y chromosome. I could lose the entire bottom half of my body and still be a man, because it's genetic.
sex isn't plug and play, it's beyond your control, and some people just can't stand that so they try to pretend like we're born with mr. potato parts, and we get to pick and choose. It's sad, but it's true.
>>324333895 >I wouldn't cease calling myself a man. But by your standards you are not a man anymore. In fact if you never had tests to confirm your chromosones you shouldn't be calling yourself a man now.
or is it prehaps something other than these things that makes you feel the way you do?
>>324333712 >So you only thought you were a man once you had tests to confirm this? you don't need a test to confirm that you have a y chromosome, when the baby comes out and has a penis and testicles it therefore has a y chromosome because it is a necessary component in forming that kind of human.
>>324333912 It's not necessarily about self inserting. I don't self insert as many male characters in RPGs. But playing as a woman in an RPG when you're a man sort of conflicts with man's perspective and can lead to a jarring disconnect from the role you're playing as.
Why would I play as a female character if I can't empathize with that character inherently?
Or maybe that's just splitting hairs. Fuck it, I Don't even care anymore.
>>324334217 >Again, like I said, don't lump all the qunari in with a single individual Are you suggesting he is lying about how things work? if not there's no reason to discard his statements other than your bias.
>>324333912 you will always self insert no matter how hard you think you aren't when you play a game where you choose all of the characters responses you just might want some dick anon nothing to be ashamed of
>>324334535 that isn't missing the point at all, unless you're delusional enough to actually believe the 'sex is a societal construct' nonsense that tumblr created on the backs of radical psychiatric officials. I learned about what my parts do the same way you learned what yours do, from the society that we as a people have generated over thousands of years and the science that we've all come to accept as fact.
you come out with a penis and testicles you have a y chromosome and are more susceptible to certain diseases and defects based on your genetic make-up, and so from the second you exit the womb you are set along a path based on the simple fact that you have or do not have a y chromosome.
>>324335212 >unless you're delusional enough to actually believe the 'sex is a societal construct' nonsense You clearly do. > I learned about what my parts do the same way you learned what yours do, from the society
You just agreed with that tumblr menace.
Because the science is also against you, being trans isn't listed as some insanity in the DSM
>>324333407 EA is fucking delusional and is trying to turn DA into their own TES but without willing to put any effort into it. It doesn't matter what you think about Bioware, no developer can make good games when working under retards like that.
>>324335706 Morrigan: Look around you, then. you see women throughout this land, fighters and mages both. Sten: That has yet to be proven. Morrigan: Which? That they fight? Or that they are female? Sten: Either. Morrigan: So I am not truly a woman to you? Hmm. 'Tis good to know.
Clearly the physical aspects are not the most important to sten.
>>324335610 this is beyond retarded. This cannot be real.
Sex is not a societal construct, it is a genetic one. Society as a whole addresses sex, and instructs and forms around sex because of the scientific facts that are associated with sex. Just because society teaches you about your sex and what it means doesn't mean that it's a construct of it, the opposite is true as a matter of fact. Our society is more of a construct of sex than anything else.
>being trans isn't listed as some insanity in the DSM because being a tranny is a symptom of dysphoria, it's not an individual illness.
>>324296758 The Dragon Age 2 hate is a meme. In reality its not a bad game and it does a lot of stuff better than its predecessor. If only Bioware hadnt gone full retard with shit like the time skips and some others plot shit. Hell, I enjoyed the plot in the second one more than the first one. Hawke is a way better MC depending on how you play him. Party members are also cool but its hard to compete with Morrigan, Leliana and the rest of the first cast. And some people complain that you only visit one city but Kirkwall was comfy as fuck.
>>324336498 >Having dysphora doesn't make you a tranny, you retard yes it does.
Dysphoria is a perpetual state of being unhappy or dissatisfied with life. It typically attaches to some aspect of the self because it is a constant 'nagging' that follows the person around. Sometimes the thing it attaches to is gender, making the suffering party believe that they are in the 'wrong body' and therefor hormone treatment and all that shit are used as ways to alleviate the stress that the dysphoria attacks.
The same way a plastic surgeon addict is trying to look a certain way to alleviate the nagging in their head, a tranny is trying to look the part they feel they should be playing. Being a transexual is not a mental illness in and of itself, but you have to have a mental illness to be a transexual.
>>324337491 No I played the game for myself to form my own opinions and was disappointed in all the different "choices" presented to me
Fuck you faggot. I know how you shit taste apologists work. If i didn't put enough time into it you'd say I wasn't fair, and if i put (a fairly average) time into it you'd say I must've actually liked it!
>>324334613 >Origins comes out >it's a good game and loved from release >Dragon Age 2 comes out >it's a shit game and everyone hates it >Inquisition comes out >it's somehow even shittier making people look back and feel like maybe DA2 wasn't so bad after all
>>324338483 >>324338656 Thanks. I'll stick with my mage, though. Seems fun enough. I'm just really lost with what I should be doing with my followers. I have Alistair, Morrigan, Dog, & Leliana so far. Do I have to find and equip gear to EACH of them whenever I get it AND level them up individually? Seems like a lot of work. WIsh I could just focus on the character I made.
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