DA Thread

She's not here sitting on my dick.

>>324286605
Used a magical artifact in her quest to try and kill the mages.

Just started this game today on xbox. Been playing a mage. It's been fun so far. I like a lot of dialog. Do I have to level up all my party members and change there gear and shit? I really just want to focus on my character that I created. I don't care about the npcs!

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>>324288616
Level up your healing spells if you're playing hard mode. Always have a rogue for traps and treasure, switch clothes when possible.

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>>324286605
She's not Leandra.

>>324290631
This right here this I like you cool anon any love for Femhawke ?

>>324291630
FemHawke is the best part of the game

>>324286605
Sagging pussy.

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>>324290631
Geez, so being progressive, they do love big boobs. Not that I'm complaining.

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>>324292797
Damn straight.

>>324293737
>all those hours of listening to FemHawke be a smartass

At least Bioware did one thing right

>only good girl of DAII was your syster

how do i unlock chests and doors. says unsuffcient skill.

>>324295687
>smart-ass femhawke
>you can fuck everyone
>Varric
>Isabela
>DA:O cameos
>badass Qunari with horns
Why are we supposed to hate DA2 again? It was great

>>324295870
Isabela had nice titties and Merril was cute
But yeah I wanted to fuck Bethany
Why bioware? I can have a threesome with Isabela in DA2, a foursome with her in DAO but fucking my sister is too much?

>>324296758
Because of you waifufags.

>>324296758
There was some stuff I liked in DA2 but the negatives pop up with gameplay. Boring combat, enemy waves that spawn out of the ground, quests taking place in the same damn environments with some passages blocked off. Maybe if it didn't have the dev time of an average Obsidian title it would've been better.

>>324297913
Why do you hate waifus?
>>324298212
The combat was better than DAO and the waves never bothered me
The recycled environments weren't that much of a problem because the game took part literally in the same places
You go through dungeons many times because the game moves through time, not through space
Act 3 was fucking rushed though

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>>324288504
>using magic to kill magic
makes sense to me

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>>324296758
>forgetting gamlen

>>324299030
I don't hate waifus, I hate you fucking faggots who do nothing but say things are cute! CUTE! and other shit

>>324299232
He fucked my family over
Bad uncle

anyone else just not give a fuck and kill off anyone they could in da2? Being evil is more fun I guess when you don't like how the game is going

>>324299232
>Mom fucks off to backwater England with some rogue mage
>Never speaks to family again even after parents died
>Gamlen tries investing money but fails
>Mom expects to be waited on hand and foot now her backwater hovel is getting raped by Darkspawn
>Gamlen still gets you into the city by working as a merc or smuggler for one year

Gamlen was probably the most sensible person in that city. At least his daughter wasn't a total fuck up.

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Did he do anything wrong?

>>324300847
he let femshep do whatever she wants in the city for a couple years

>>324300471
He fucked up
>>324300847
No

>>324300847
He tried to reform a city so corrupted, that it killed him.

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>>324296758
In all honesty I really enjoyed DA2
I know it had flaws, but it was really fun for the large part and Inquisition lost out in some areas by trying to move so far away from it

>>324288394
>DA2's unpopularity made it so we got no Meredith lewds
suffering

>>324286605

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http://strawpoll.me/6427535

>>324303156
>sera
>better than anything

clearly this poll is fixed

>>324303156
>Sera that high
Why?

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I actually liked Fenris quite a bit compared to Anders and the other party members (Varric and Aveline are still TOP BASE)

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>>324303390
My worry is why Merrill is at the top

>>324286605
>positive DA2 thread

This isn't even reddit anymore, it's brand new cancer.

>>324303702
They're talking about Meredith, and most of the thread acknowledges DA2 was shit.

>>324300847
if they had kept him as the main antagonist for the game instead of pushing the MUH MAGES RAIGHTS plotline we're gonna get for the next 3 games, it would have been great. Especially if they just straight up gave you the option of joining him in his beautiful PURGE. Literally the only 10/10 character from that game.

>>324303702
>Muh Cancer1!!!
>>324303417
He's cute but I wish they toned down the bloodlust.

THE PLIGHT OF MAGES

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>>324304931

>>324305017
>tfw accidentaly romance anders because i want to offer him a place in my house

awkward

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>>324306482
Anders is a Thirsty mother fucker if you don't tell him straight up to fuck off. And even saltier if you romance anyone other than him if you don't flag his 'I don't ever want to romance Anders'. And I think he does it even if you picked a broken heart dialogue.

The guy bad mouths Fenris in a way saying 'his kind', so, Anders gets to be fantasy racist as well as a Mage rights terrorist

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>>324306759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOixZZa897U

Varric was pretty cool.

>>324306482
you have to have flirted with him constantly for that to happen.

"accidentaly" fell on a dude and went balls deep too I bet.

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>>324306482
>I accidentally put my dick in his ass
>I'm totally not gay, it slipped, I swear

>>324300847
Yes. He saw the Viscount as his equivalent in Kirkwall, when it is Meredith who he should have gone after.

>>324296758
>Why are we supposed to hate DA2 again?
Mostly memes.


It's not a solid game, the wave combat is nothing but annoying at its best, and I can sympathies with the quick development time and applaud how they got every bit of use out of their levels, but every bit of use made it get old by the end of act 1.

Its a shame the game didn't have more time, it was different than the normal stuff and had a lot of good ideas.

>>324303552
>Not gay romancing Merrill by constantly telling her she's a fucking idiot who needs to stop doing dumb shit and breaking her stupid mirror and fucking with her to the point that she relies on you

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>>324296758
Because

>shit story that keeps jumping
>environments recycled to hell and back
>anders becomes a gay terrorist
>merill is a fucking retard
>shit combat system
>retarded ending

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I gay-romanced with Isabela, and I not gonna lie, I expected more of her character.

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>>324308520
Only way to go

How's the first DA?

>>324308497
The story isn't bad per se, it's just different

Also the combat is pretty fun t b h it's just the shitty encounters that ruin it

>>324308497
Story is good, act 3 is rushed but it's not bad story wise
Environments are recycled because they are literally the same areas you visit in different times
That was Anders somewhat possessed by the Spirit of Vengeance not actually Anders. Still a moron
Merril is bioware's attempt at making a cute kawaii clutz. They sort of fucked up but not completely
Combat is good and huge improvement
Ending was rushed yes, fucking EA

>>324308739
Pretty good

>>324308739
It's a solid crpg with great characters, great roleplayeing and some cool lore
The story is simple but works for what it's worth
Gameplay is standard crpg fare

>>324309019
>improvement
>da2 combat
I wouldn't say that, 1 had it all with a good balance between semi action and tactical thinking, also first and foremost interesting and well thought out encounters
2 has a big focus on action with lots of trash mob and not so tactical

>>324309261
Encounters were better in DAO
Core combat gameplay was better in DA2
DAO was way too slow, at least DA2 was faster paced and had way cooler animations

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Who's Merrill Master Race here?

>>324303552
Because waifu.
Also, it says more about how shit all the elf companions have been.
I do think Fenris should be higher though, but that might just be because of his VA.

>>324308739
Just don't play a tank, it's shit

>>324308789
>>324309019

>the story isn't bad

Yes it is

>you arrive in kirkwall, get inside the city
>the game skips a whole year, the whole DA:O takes place
>you decide to go to an expedition with a dwarf
>find some red lyrium shit
>the game skips 3 years
>you're now rich and you bought your family estate back
>retarded isabella steals qunaris book and they are not allowed to leave until they find it
>along the way qunari decide to take over the city
>you pretty much single handedly defeat them and you're named the hero of kirkwall
>the game skips some time again
>the whole mage vs templar thing takes place
>mages all use blood magic and one of them turns into a flesh golem which was an unique one of a kind thing in DA:O proving the templars right
>the templar bitch is crazy and they just want to murder all mages
>you side with one of the retarded sides in the end
>also anders blows up the chantry because he's a faggot terrorist

>>324309689
>cooler animations

I much prefer the, i'm not sure how to say it but Origins had such a heavy feel to the executions for example that just made everything feel more cold and gritty
2 is just too comically violent in that regard for my taste

>>324309968
>>you decide to go to an expedition with a dwarf
>>find some red lyrium shit
>>the game skips 3 years
There's a bunch of stuff in between those events.

You just have shit memory.


>retarded isabella steals qunaris book and they are not allowed to leave until they find it
>along the way qunari decide to take over the city
Thats not how that happened. Do you think being wrong will make your argument look more valid?

like
>the whole mage vs templar thing takes place
That kind of crap is happening the entire game. You really don't remember a thing, but that is your fault, not the games.

>gaider finally off the DA team
>no DA project in the forseeable future

What a shame

I haven't played a lick of Inquisition ever since I let the Grey Wardens organization continue by saving 1 of 2 people. Is it worth going back to it and beating it? It's just so unspirational to play.

>>324310629
His replacement is a full blown SJW and the guy who retconned the Qun into accepting trannies. The franchise is better off dead. Hopefully Bioware gives it away to a better dev in a couple of years

>>324311089
It must be so pathetic being you, that you have to invent windmills to tilt at.

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>>324286605
Meredith .... had a hard life

>>324293516
Consider the fact that Bethany's breasts were larger in the opening tutorial of DA2. Remember that that section was Varric embelleshing everything. Her breasts are smaller when he stops making it over-the-top. This means that Varric took the time to describe Bethany's breasts to Cassandra. This was of utmost importance for him to describe from the first time she is mentioned.

>>324311339
Do you not recall Sten declaring it impossible for you to be both a woman and a warrior if you played a female Warden? Bull's Chargers' 2nd in command is a tranny.

Gaider was involved in DAI though, he wrote Dorian.

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>>324312039
Sometime, I wish there was a DLC to play as Varric when he was younger. He's god tier bro.
>>324311505
Honestly, I like Meredith. Wish they did justice to her.

>>324312776
meaning they are a man and there is no contradiction.

That you disagree with that first part doesn't make it a contradiction or retcon, it makes it something you dislike, nothing more.

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>>324312039
One of the sad things is that the final part of each act was also supposed to have an embellished version you'd go through just like with the prologue but that idea was scrapped. It would've been fun to see what Varric's version of the Arishok fight would've been like.

>>324314167
I feel like that would have diminished the actual fight.

r8 the games

>origins>trespasser=2>>inquisition

I include trespasser because it's so vastly different from Inquisition it deserves it's own spot, like holy fuck had they made the whole game like that DLC it would have been GOAT

>>324315382
>DA2>Inquisition>Origins
I really fucking hate Origins, i mean, the slow combat, the boring dwarf segment and the characters (Except Morrigan, Leliana and Alistair)

>>324309706
>hey guys, what if we made Tali retarded, selfish, and even more one-dimensional?

>>324315952
>doesnt like zevran
>doesnt like dog

The combat can get pretty fast once you have your bloodthirst + haste and I just like it because it's got such a weight and visceral feel to it, those finishers god damn, are they satisfying
>that sound when your warden jumps on top of the ogre and the time slows down

My favorite sound in the world

>>324316782
This is how it should have ended.

>>324316370
at least you can hatefuck her

>>324316851
would have been awesome if there was a hidden third option you had to actually explore and work towards throughout the entire game where you finally gain enough support to actually take over the entire place

bonus points for it requiring significant sacrifices throughout the game that don't have immediate payoff and possibly pissing off the majority of your party members

>>324307743
>mostly memes
Fuck you, the game was awful full of reused assets, unsatisfying combat, and fucking retarded plot elements.

>>324319370
>and fucking retarded plot elements.
maymess

>>324319596
So you think there being a lack of real player choice in order to railroad a narrative to the same 3 major events makes for a good plot?

>>324319596
my favourite part of DA2 was the ending.

you go through the game supporting either the mages or templars, and it all culminates in the finale, where you either...

support the mages: the head mage goes insane, turns into a monster and you kill him, then the head templar who uses a magic sword, and goes insane.

or

support the templars: the head mage goes insane, turns into a monster and you kill him, then the head templar who uses a magic sword, and goes insane.


or how about where as a mage supporter, a rogue mage kidnaps your mom and you're unable to save her...but if you support the templars, a rogue mage kidnaps your mom and you're unable to save her.

how about the qunari storyline, where trying to lie to them results in the qunari taking over and killing the leader, resulting in you having to kill the arishok

or trying to be honourable and standing up to them results in the qunari taking over and killing the leader, resulting in you having to kill the arishok?

>>324320361
The best "choice" in DA2 was whether or not you take your brother/sister with you into the Deep Road while also bringing Anders

That actually meaningfully affects things.

Either they die, and are permanently written out of the story

Or they become a Grey Warden/Templar and are written out of the story until the climax.

>>324320237
>So you think there being a lack of real player choice
I don't agree that that is true.

>>324320361
>or how about where as a mage supporter, a rogue mage kidnaps your mom and you're unable to save her...but if you support the templars, a rogue mage kidnaps your mom and you're unable to save her.
Why would your support of mages or lack thereof affect a madman serial killer?

There's no link between any of that.

Here's a heads up, in every game not every choice matters, and fuck even your last example is bad since having the respect of the arishok changes your interactions with him and how the final confrontation plays out. You'rte asking that you not being a shithead to him make him entirely turn his back on the Qun.

or you're just bitching for its own sake.

>>324321145
>Why would your support of mages or lack thereof affect a madman serial killer?
Because the head mage guy was protecting him even though he was a serial killer blood mage.

>>324320994
>Or they become a Grey Warden/Templar and are written out of the story until the climax.
Or they are kidnapped and you need to save them, or they come along for the two dlc, and people talk about them and writing letters. The game doesnt act as if they are just gone, strange you want to.

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>>324286605
>there are people on /v/, RIGHT NOW, that think DA2 is better than inquisition

>>324321145
>in every game not every choice matters
no, but major choices should affect the plot in a game where the previous game ACTUALLY DID THAT.
>You'rte asking that you not being a shithead to him make him entirely turn his back on the Qun.
no, I'm asking that him interacting with hawke should affect how the qunari attack--perhaps they're more aggressive if you've been cowardly, or they allow you to come challenge the arishok to an honourable duel, allowing that entire setup to be bypassed.

the final boss situation should have been one or the other--either the templars fears are vindicated OR the templars go nuts.

>>324321334
You bought two fucking DLC for Dragon Age 2? Jesus christ dude, I was only counting the base game, but apparently you love the taste of shit so much that you ordered seconds and thirds.

>>324321324
>Because the head mage guy was protecting him
He sabotaged Templar investigations, he can't go back in time and undo that after hes already killed your mother.
What you ask isn't possible. Nor should it be expected, the game never indicates it should be.

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>>324321526
see, int the end its just memes.

>>324321548
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Orsino or whatever his name was explicitly know about the shit that the serial killer mage was doing?

>>324321949
yes. the serial killer mage was specifically in contact with orsino and collaborating with him to figure out the spells.

>>324321949
You can find a letter from Orsino that says he's excited about the progress in the guy's work but I can't remember if it was much more explicit beyond that.

>>324321949
He was aware of it, and gave him materials thinking it would keep him quiet and hidden.

He wasn't aware of who he was taking or anything like that. It was a very distant support, only done to avoid Meredith using him as an excuse to kill more mages.

>>324321949
This is all before Orsino even knows who you are anyway.

>>324322430
that is literally the worst excuse in the history of excuses
>oh you can't be to mad I killed your mother because I didn't know it was YOUR mother

that's the sort of thing the villain in an action movie says right before the hero chucks him into a wood chipper

>>324322054
>>324322118
>>324322260
So why would anybody side with mages? In Kirkwall they're all scumbags who resort to blood magic even when they don't need to. The only ones who seemingly don't are Hawk and Bethany.

>>324322430
Why are you making excuses?

>>324322663
>that is literally the worst excuse in the history of excuses
How do you expect him to step in and save your mother because he likes your politics, if he has never heard of you? Hell he didn't even know people were being taken like this.

>>324322874
So why would anyone side with the Templars, the only ones in it who aren't in it to try their hand at genocide are Carver and Cullen?

see the problem with DA2's factions?

>>324322874
because DA2's storytelling was fucking awful, and didn't bother showing that there was a plight, and the mages were being forced into either using blood magic or being subjugated and/or having their mind flushed.

>>324322874
>In Kirkwall they're all scumbags who resort to blood magic even when they don't need to.
We usually only see them do it when their other choices were death, or it was impossible to do it any other way.

>>324323109
>Genocide
The Templars don't want to kill all mages. The mages are the faggots who keep causing the accidents in the first place.

I wonder, what would the Templars do if they found out the Grey Wardens have been using blood magic for centuries?

>>324290631
>>324293516
>couldn't impregnate either of them
I THOUGHT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MEDIEVAL FANTASY GAME

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>>324321430
>implying it isn't

>>324286605
Her face

>>324323085
Why the fuck is he supporting a crazy maniac apostate instead of turning the fucker over to Meredith?

>>324323109
Templars don't want to kill all the mages, they want to keep them in circles because a great many mages are fucking batshit insane. And even if they aren't insane, they wield an insane amount of power and there is a great potential for possession.

>>324323373
Templars as an organization no, Templars in kirkwall might as well have started chanting Heil Meredith because in their attempt to make that conflict grey they made both sides wrong and then asked you to pick between shit and vomit

>>324323373
>The Templars don't want to kill all mages
Several of them explicitly do, and those are the ones Meredith promotes.

>The mages are the faggots who keep causing the accidents in the first place.
Because they are kept as slaves, inside a prison guarded by people that want to kill them.

Might make people a litter desperate.

>>324323435
The Grey Wardens use a very disciplined form of blood magic and they don't make deals with demons, they essentially bind themselves to the archdemon.

>>324323373
in DA1 we're shown multiple times that mages aren't all bad, even blood mages can use their magic for good.

the templars are there to keep order, and are necessary, but even in the mage tower, as the demons are rampaging...the templars weren't willing to just go genociding.

then you get DA2 "ALL MAGES ARE EVIL AND ABLE TO BECOME DEMONS AND WE NEED TO STRICTLY CONTROL THEM AND/OR WIPE THEM OUT."

>>324323435
Slaugther them like the Vermin they are. Fuck the Gay Wardens.

>>324323482
Because Meredith would use it to attack all mages, regardless of involvement.

>>324323561
>using Kirkwall as an example
Everyone in Kirkwall was fucking insane.

>>324323591
>The Grey Wardens use a very disciplined form of blood magic
for fanatics like Meredith that'd just mean they've been using blood magic so long and intensive they got good at it and need extra purging

>>324323591
>and they don't make deals with demons
they regularly do.

It doesnt matter, wardens are above all laws.

>>324286605

It's made by Bioware

/thread

>>324323561
>believing the "mages are enslaved" meme
Compare even the strictest circle to the Qunari and come back to me to complain that mages have it rough.

Dragon Age Origins handled the whole circle mages vs apostates vs free self-policing mages thing very well, that that was just a fucking side story.

DA2 makes the whole thing MAGES VS TEMPLARS and just fucks everything up.

>>324323643
>the templars weren't willing to just go genocide.
Only because they lacked numbers, Gregor felt bad but he still called the rite of annulment and only pulled his templars out, he left every single mage inside.

He clearly valued the life of any non-mage above any number of mages.

>>324323643
however origins does imply the sheer power blood magic offers as well as a connection to demons ensures practicers start to suffer from absolute power corruption pretty quickly and there's several good reasons to not condone blood magic at all

>>324323435
Pretty sure not all templars are as fucking crazy as the ones in Kirkwall that make up plans like The Fina-Tranquil Solution.

>>324286605
Faggots.

>>324323653
Loghain please go.

>>324323868
>Compare even the strictest circle to the Qunari and come back to me to complain that mages have it rough.
They have it rough.

If you chop off a foot I'm not going to thank you for not breaking my spine, thats just a fucked up perspective.

>>324323905
>Gregor felt bad but he still called the rite of annulment and only pulled his templars out, he left every single mage inside.
and felt terrible about it, hence why he allowed the warden and their party into the tower so they could either help the survivors not-yet posessed or at least end their suffering quickly.

>>324296758
>Why are we supposed to hate DA2 again? It was great

This statement right fucking here is the natural progression of every single game discussed on /v/ and it's fucked up. Delete this post.

>>324324112
and essentially it requires the grey warden to confirm that there's nothing worth saving in the tower for him to actually do it

and given just how much shit had hit the fan in that place, considering a purge wasn't all that unreasonable

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>>324286605
That's not best girl in the game

>lets you take it up the ass by being a flaming homo. Totally fine, write it in guys
>oh but a relationship against a brother/sister is too far, that's disgusting

Fuck you Gaider

>>324324112
No matter how bad he felt he was going to do it, and would have already done it if not for the blight and civil war.

>>324323782
>they regularly do.
Name one example.

>>324324021
Circle mages do not have it rough. They can travel the world on behalf of the chantry or join the grey wardens for their freedom.

But under no circumstances am I going to think that mages should just be allowed complete freedom. Just look at Tevinter.

>>324324332
he was containing a possible genocide on the level of the darkspawn horde.

he made the right call in that situation, compared to meredith, who was itchy for an excuse to call for the rite through the entire game.

I found DA2 to be pretty hilarious to be honest.

Like, the whole moral dilemma about mages being treated as slaves and how you're supposed to sympathize with them against the Big Evil Templars.

Yet literally EVERY. FUCKING. MAGE. you try to help goes
>"HAHA I'M SECRETLY A BLOOD MAGE FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

>>324324332
Did you not understand the fucking dire situation they were in? It wasn't just a single mage being possessed by a powerful demon to make a super powered abomination, it was that abomination creating even more abominations out of the entire circle of mages

Some shit like that CANNOT be allowed into the world.

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>>324324330
>Making your sister into Cuck Warden
>Not letting her into the Circle where you can free/spare her in the End without the tait
It's like you hate her. Also, she turns cold if she's a Warden.

>>324324639
well anders wasn't a blood mage

>>324324347
>Name one example.
Avernus and all wardens under Drydens command, every Orlesian Warden.
Wardens during the 3rd blight to make the most of their Griffions.

>>324324347
>Circle mages do not have it rough.
You're kept in a prision where you may be killed without notice and are forced to be trapped alone with a demon while still young.

>They can travel the world on behalf of the chantry
Most can't, those that can are given a special privilege to do so, meaning it ins't normal.

> or join the grey wardens for their freedom.
thats not up to them, and thats not really freedom.

> Just look at Tevinter.
The most advanced civilization on the planet who's capital has never been captured?

Why don't we look at Ravain or Avvar who don't have circles for mages either and manage that problem fine? Oh wait, when the templars found out about that they slaughtered an entire town in Ravain.

>>324324768
no, instead he was a terrorist abomination.

>>324324768
Nah, he was actually worse.
>killed hundreds of people in the Chantry for some stupid petty shit

executed the faggot on the spot right there

>>324324768
He was a fucking abomination. That's the end result of blood magic anyways.

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>>324324330
>the only female companions that aren't fucking retarded are unromanceable

>>324324686
>>324324510
You're missing the point.

The original statement was that the templars were not going to go in and kill all the mages, I take it from the fact you two are saying that such action was the correct choice that you agree with me that the Templars were going to do the thing you and they are advocating?

>>324324937
sure he deserved that execution a hundred fold but just sayan, he didn't do no blood magic

>>324324893
>I-it wasn't me it was the spirit inside me

>>324325049
well yes, but in that situation, gregor was vindicated in doing so.

meredith treated the mages like garbage instead of respect, constantly threatened them, put more and more rules on them, then used them snapping as an excuse to wipe them out.

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>>324325048
Aveline was my first love but she chose someone else.

>>324325268
Thats kinda the point, even a good kind Templar will murder everyone just to be sure.

And they are not all good.

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>>324324937
>there are people in this thread right now that didn't execute Anders right then and there, and bought into his "i-it wasn't mee it was j-justice!!!" spiel

>>324324865
>You're kept in a prison where you may be killed without notice
This never happens

>Most can't, those that can are given a spicial privilege to do so, meaning it isn't normal
They all have the equal opportunity to earn that privilege.

>that's not up to them
Grey Wardens are constantly in need of mages. You really think they can't volunteer when a Warden recruiter stops by?

>and that's not really freedom
Being a Grey Warden is like the most freedom you can get. You don't have to obey laws and you can go anywhere you want.

>The most advanced civilization on the planet whose capital has never been captured
Who also practice real slavery, are responsible for most of the magical wrongs in the world, and everybody sees them as evil pieces of shit

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>>324325408
>tfw you mod her appearance and forget what she actually looks like

>>324325059

...he was willfully sharing his body with a vengeful spirit. Is that not a form of blood magic?

>>324325497
if a strain of flu mutated that turned people into fast zombies, the government would also seriously consider nuking it

some things are just to dangerous to let loose upon the world, army of abominations out for blood is one of them

>>324325630
if your only career option that doesn't involve house arrest is a guaranteed death at the hands of the orcish hordes I'd say you got given a pretty rough deal, but that's just me

>>324325497
Yes, just like countries will firebomb areas that have been hit with biological weapons.

>>324325936
Everyone is guaranteed a death friend.

>>324325630
>This never happens
It happens in the white spire, the centre of templar power.

>They all have the equal opportunity to earn that privilege.
No they don't. Templar decides he just doesn't like you, chance gone, and the number they will let out is finite.

>You really think they can't volunteer when a Warden recruiter stops by?
The templars don't want them to during a blight, and even then they only take one.

>Being a Grey Warden is like the most freedom you can get.
Aside from being bound to the blight and the order.

>You don't have to obey laws
Fucking templar hit squads come after you in awakening, if you break the laws people will try and murder you rather than arrest you. Big whoop?

>Who also practice real slavery
Which doesnt require magic. in fact its not really relevant to their status as mages.

>are responsible for most of the magical wrongs in the world,
Only because they are responsible for most of the things in the world in general. They did once rule it.

>Dragon Age Origins: Fuck the Darkspawn
Dragon Age 2: Mages are Assholes. Fuck them.
>Dragon Age Inquisition: Fuck Everyone

>>324326132
most are further away than a decade or two.

>>324326132
not a particularly painful and miserable one

and heck, mages might be able to extend their lives a long ass time

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>>324323452
>been wanting to play as Elves in an RPG that doesn't make them look like they collectively have down syndrome.
>try Skyrim and all the elves look pants on head retarded
>try DA:Inquisition and all the elves (especially the males) look like anorexic versions of Zach Braff with a head twice the size of his body

Fucking christ, all I want to do is play as a normal looking elf.

>>324286605
>blond
>blue eye
>oppressing poor magi :-(
BRAVO GAYDAR
R
A
V
O

Okay, /v/. I see we all agree the DA series is deeply flawed. How would you fix it?

>>324326389
>elves
>not nigger tier fantasy race
you can continue playing your weebshit or tolkien shit, anon. nobody judge you

>>324326414
DA2 is essentially Nazis vs ISIS
and you're forced to pick a side

>>324326417
Remove wave combat, give them more time to make more level assets, this would also give them the time to put in all the cut content and stich back together the full stories.

Like if you're a mage there used to be a quest to pay off some Templars to turn a blind eye untill you become champion, but it wouldn't be finished in time and was cut.

>>324326607
I bet you play as a human in RPGs you boring vanilla shit stain

I'd even go so far as to say mages do not deserve freedom.

They are too powerful and too dangerous without templars to keep them in check.

>>324326417
Make a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins.

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>>324326389
I rather have Elves be pointy ear humans than the alien face freaks they're becoming.

>>324326417
>cut down on zone size from inquisition while adding more interesting quests or locations
>build off what you've already established without so much tweaking

Find a way to improve the combat some and you've got a start. One of the issues with Inquisition is it was annoying to play on higher difficulties because the combat was still boring while enemies had that much more hp.

>>324326857
this t.b.h

>allowing someone with powers to destroy an entire village go completely unchecked and unmonitored

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Hi, my name is Benjamin Franklin. I settled the freedom versus security argument centuries ago. Fuck each and every one of you.

>>324327125
giving the player more options is a good way to improve combat
sure DA:O had you fighting a lot of the same enemies over and over again but at least it allowed you to equip 20+ skills and a few dozen consumables so you could always vary it up a bit

>>324327035
Exactly. All I want to do is play as a fucking elf. But I can't because these devs are massive try hards who try to fix what ain't broken.

Can someone summarize the plot of Inquisition for me? I don't plan on ever purchasing it.

>>324327227
Who's the Benjamin Franklin of DA or vidya?

>>324327227
But you didn't have magic.

>>324327569
Haven't played it yet but all i know is one of da2 dlc boss is big bad here

>>324327569
You're the chosen one and must stop the magister who started the blight from stealing the power of the maker.

Turns out you're not the chosen one and the magister is using old elven magic to enter the fade and it likely will destroy the world and kill him

>>324328220
But the fuck, what does that have to do with Origins or even DA2?

>>324327851
Nigger, we have nukes. Nukes may as well be magic, with just as much destructive power.

>>324328423
We don't have human beings who can take a shit and accidentally nuke a town.

>>324328331
Its in the same setting, elements and events from previous games have impact in it.

Dragon age has never been about a bunch of clear direct sequels. What exactly did you expect? Mass Effect?

>>324328220
That's such bullshit with they did with the Elven lore. They hamrammed into making it the "canon' belief.
>lol We're implying the Maker is the old Elven god
Bioshit seems to be too pussy to make anything remotely Christian. Also, hated what they did with the Qun. I didn't like it but I respected it was a different strict culture. Now, it's
>We're so progressive!!!

>>324328885
What did they do to the Qun? Last I checked, it was fantasy Islam (with all the positive and negative connotations)

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>>324327569
You're the chosen who inadvertently gets magic green jizz on his hand that allows him to penetrate and close flying orifices that threaten the destroy the entire world.

You destroy the big baddie from DA 2 who has been raping the world with his magister dick but as it turns out, he wasn't the true villain. It was one of your companions. And the magical green jizz wasn't created by the big baddie but by a Quasi Elf god who basically revolted against his fellow quasi elf gods because they were sperging out with their OP as fuck power and basically enslaving their own race.

You eventually confront the magical quasi elf god and can either choose to destroy him (sometime in the future games maybe....that's a big maybe) or try and eventually win him back over to the Light side of the force because you don't want to kill your Bald elf bro. Also, your left arm gets cut off at the very end because the magic green jizz turned on you faster than a politician and was literally killing you.

>>324328885
>>lol We're implying the Maker is the old Elven god
No they aren't.

They showing that the elven gods were never gods at all

>Bioshit seems to be too pussy to make anything remotely Christian.
You don't think the Chantry has any even slight similarities with Christianity?

> Also, hated what they did with the Qun.
Show us something other than the military?
You should have listened to sten when he told you you cannot judge all Qunari by him. This ones your fault.

>>324329026
The Qun is, as the other anon says, basically Islam. But in DA:I this gets retconned out the ass because Freddie Prinz Bara Qunari condones Krem's obvious tranny taint, saying she or he or it or whatever the fuck it is would make a fine soldier in the Qun.

Which doesn't make any sense because the Qun don't approve of women fighting, as stated by Sten in DA:O. Which basically meands a woman pretending to be a man would be just as looked down upon. Shit is retarded.

>>324329454
>Which doesn't make any sense because the Qun don't approve of women fighting,
Thats a separate issue, Krem is considered a man to them. You disagreeing with that isn't a contrition for them.

>>324329775
Are you fucking retarded? Krem is a walking I REJECT MY STATION IN LIFE trope.

Guess what kinds of people the Qun hate the most? Those who reject their original and ordained station in life. Krem suddenly turning into a man would piss of the Qun something fierce, to the point they'd either drug her ass until she' was mind broken or just turned into a slave.

>>324329984
This desu.
>>324329775
Actually, it will conflict with the Qun. Like Anon said, being a woman was her original intent and the Qunari do like people abandoning their original purpose.

>Gaider wrote his tranny cousin into the lore of Dragon Age

I still can't believe he got away with that shit.

>>324329984
>Those who reject their original and ordained station in life.
And for Krem, that is being a man, so again no contradiction.
>. Krem suddenly turning into a man would piss of the Qun something fierce,
You are provable wrong, and thus far it is only your supposition that says otherwise.

You've decide their stance on this issue, but it isn't viewed in the lens of "She became a he" its "He was always a he". Its your base assumption here that causes the issue, not something from the game.

>>324330307
Krem was based off his tranny cousin? Jesus fuck

>>324330183
>being a woman was her original intent
That is your position, not something ever presented in game, in fact its clear Iron Bull believes the opposite so this is a position you hold being held as as if it should cause a contradiction .

>>324330368
>And for Krem, that is being a man
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

>>324330412
No i'm thinking of a different tranny, MtF, from the comics.

He wrote another tranny into Inquisition? That's just rich.

>>324329984
>Those who reject their original and ordained station in life
By this logic they would never accept runaway slaves, and Iron Bull would have been a soldier not a spy.
So it doesn't really hold up.

>>324330368
>>324330518
Spotted the libcucks.

>>324330545
>WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Thats your opinion, and it is entirely irreverent.

If you can't accept that it is your problem, not the games. caps lock doesn't change that.

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>>324330368
She was born with a fucking vagina you massive shit lord. That makes her a woman. You're only arguing from the standpoint of an SJW, who seem to think that changing your hair and the way you dress suddenly makes you a different sex. Which is not the case. She was ORIGINALLY a woman. Deal with it.

The Qunari were supposed to be fantasy muslims. A qunari like bull is probably an apostate.

>>324330772
>doesn't even get a sex change
>she's a man now, so you gotta deal with it!

Fuck off.

>>324330810
>She was born with a fucking vagina you massive shit lord. That makes her a woman.
That is your position, its wrong in reality in a addition to fiction. But in either event, your thoughts don't matter, and insisting you matter more is absurdly egotistical of you.

>>324330665
Okay, I probably should have worded it a bit differently. But the fact remains, that the beliefs of the Qun directly conflict with a tranny's mentality. There is no debating this.

>>324330883
I'm surprised there was no backlash to this.

>>324331020
>But the fact remains, that the beliefs of the Qun directly conflict with a tranny's mentality.
So far the only thing presented that is at odds is your opinion.

Which means nothing.

>>324331017
>its wrong in reality
No it isn't. Stop defending mental illness.

>>324330368
Why is someone a 'man' just because they want to be called a 'man'? I don't understand this thought process. I want people to call me 'Emperor' but they don't because i'm not a fucking emperor, how is this any different?

You want to be called a man because it helps with your dysphoria? Fine, i'm down with not making you more miserable, i'm all for it. Doesn't make you a man though.

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>>324331017
>That is your position, its wrong in reality

>having Wolffian ducts does not make you a woman

Premium bait. What do you charge? One (You) or two?

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This thread is going places

>>324331017
Jesus fuck, people weren't kidding when they said tumblr and reddit have migrated to /v/. They fucking infiltrated the shit out of this place.

>>324331224
So all your raging against this supposed contradiction is just coming from you having a fundamental ignorance of trans people? Color me shocked.

perhaps you should try talking to trans people about it, rather than asking /v/ if you're genuinely interested.

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>>324331017
>That is your position, its wrong in reality
(You)

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>>324324330
Bioware need to get their shit together.

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>>324331283
>>324331390
>>324331182

>>324286605
Her legitimate concerns about the abuse of magic were undermined by that fact that the use of Red Lyrium made her judgment mentally unstable.

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>>324331017
Behold /v/. This is how the SJW argues. They fight back by not actually providing examples or substance to their arguments. They just say you're flat out wrong and seem to think that just saying it makes them right.

>>324331496
>ask a mentally ill person about their mental illness
>instead of seeking the facts
No thanks.

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>>324331372

>>324331496
I tried talking to one in my creative writing class, she/he said that it was ignorant of me to ask them why "they are the way that they are" and they called me a bigot.

They then asked if I would like to be asked why I "identify as a male" and then scoffed and left the class and our group project. Never saw her/him again, think she dropped the class.

And now I get your response. You people seem to like to pass the buck in hopes that people will just stop asking and blindly accept your bizarre lifestyle.

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>>324331372
>Not being M. Hawke and reforming Isabella into a better woman
Baka desu, senpai
>>324331580
I miss Carver. The little shit grew on me. Also, Bethany.

>>324331664
so now shall you bitch about this
>>324330545

Goddamn it how come every Dragon Age thread always turns into talking about Gaider's sick fetish?

>>324331786
Did you think about the question?

>>324331608
>he doesn't know the actual backstory to the original image that one is based on

Way to destroy your own argument there libcuck

>>324331858
I theorize when there's a thread about DA, Gaider shit posts to defend it..

>>324331858
Because people want to bitch about the game not agreeing with their politics.

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>>324331608
>the assrage that Cassandra caused among the homos when they told everyone she was hetero and not interested at all in the same sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJCFc_qkHw

>>324331791
You can polish a turd but you can't make her not a slut.

>>324331964
>honestly responding to memes
This is just getting sad.

She's a dragon age character and white.

>>324331819
Seeing as how I'm not that anon, and actual arguments have already been made that destroy your dumbass stance anyway, I really don't see how that factors as a variable here at this point..

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>>324331791
>M.Hawke

But why. FemHawke is so enjoyable to listen to.

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>>324332093
Didn't they also get ass blasted when someone made a Bi-Dorian mod? Shit was hilarious.

>>324331941
did I stop to consider the rhetoric of some immature man/woman-child that ran away from a discussion because they didn't like it? no.

i don't waste time on cowardice.

>>324325048
Writing as a whole was my biggest problem with DAII. If it really was made in 8 months like the "leak" said, BW did a great job. If development really started before DA:O released, they fucked up big

>>324332048
You mean the game contradicting its own politics.

>>324330307

>mfw the game tries to guilt me for thinking Krem was a dude

Fuck off Bioware you used a male model dont try to act like im a cunt.

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>>324332280
they fully supported the bi-cass mod, and fucking raged about the bi-sera mod.

shit was laughs.

>>324332240
cause i'm not a faggot?

>>324330810
So you'd consider a male with androgen insensitivity syndrome a woman? That's more than most people here. Your picture is even funnier in that context, it's you who is inconsistent.

>>324332197
>and actual arguments have already been made
You mean repeating their opinions and insisting that must matter as if they were ever presented as qunari?

>>324332301
Just look how shit the game looks, there is no way they spend more than a year on that.

They got lucky with the extension on DAI.

>>324332292
Thats why nobody gives you time, you don't actually put any effort into what they say to you.

You wonder why you are ignorant as you actively ignore what people say.

>>324324937
>>324325579
Didn't even bother asking for my companions' opinions. Just fucking butchered him right there. Smug prick thought he'd be a martyr too.

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>>324332413
>preferring women means you're a faggot

>>324332462
Yes, it is their opinion. But the difference between our opinions and your opinion, is that we have examples, facts, and data to back it up. Your opinion was basically

>You're wrong because I say you're wrong. You're ignorant because I state your ignorant.

>>324332416
>one in 10,000 people is born a freak
>that means i have to treeat freaks like they're normal

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>>324332404
It's even more funny when the Bi-Cullenfags got mad.

>>324332635
yes playing as one in a ROLE PLAYING game does indeed make you a fag

>>324332584
see again, nobody ever answers the question, nobody ever addresses the topic, they address the person asking it. never actually answering the question, or educating anyone about anything.

it's a laughable and deplorable lifestyle because of how the people who live it behave, not because of what it actually is. I have yet to meet one transexual person with the emotional maturity of even a small child. it's both depressing and hilarious.

>>324332317
So here's two ways to look at it.

Trans people are not the gender they say they are.

Trans people are the gender they say they are.

the first time we are introduced to the issue we find out the qunari agree with the second stance. Now you clearly agree with the first stance, but you holding the first stance doesn't make it a contradiction.

>but sten said women couldn't be warriors!
but again, qunari accept trans people as the gender they say they are, so this doesnt matter. Its not somebody saying "I am a woman and a warrior" its "I am a man and a warrior" so there's no contradiction. you may disagree with the base premise, but its internally consistent.

perhaps if you could stop trying to fight your real world political battles here you might see the point.

Not that it will matter what you think either way.

>>324332635
Playing as a woman makes you a faggot, this is true.

>>324332940
>nobody ever addresses the topic
they did with that question, and you ignored it.

somebody tires and you don't want any of it. You can't bitch when you yourself made one attempt and half assed it at best.

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>>324332635
>roleplaying as a women
yeah that's the same thing as being sexually attracted to women.

fucking dipshit.

>>324332998
True. Don't even get me started on how cancerous Fallout 4 Nexus mods is already.

>>324332729
>is that we have examples, facts, and data to back it up.
none of which has even been presented?

Did you jump in and just assume half of a missing conversation

>>324332486
No kidding. DA:I was actually really good for the most part. Still too shallow, and the dialog wheel is getting old, fast. Unfortunately though, it didn't do too well as far as sales go. Not compared to EA's lust, anyway. I have a feeling BW is going to be added to the EA Graveyard here in the next 5 years

>>324333091
>they did with that question
no they didn't, they passed the buck and ran away.

asking me why I identify as a male is like asking someone why they think the sky is blue, because it is and because I am a dude. People like to believe that the world is complex and unique, it isn't, you aren't, it's all so simple.

I'm a man because I have a y chromosome and produce sperm. Simple.

>>324332973
>the first time we are introduced to the issue we find out the qunari agree with the second stance.
No, we find out a single qunari agrees with the second stance

Now unless you're going to say a single individual represents all people in his religion/culture, it's absurd to say that there is no contradiction here.

Sten criticizes female grey warden, says that women shouldn't be warriors, and even when he likes you a bunch he still thinks it's unorthodox, and he's a devout follower of the Qun

He directly contradicts what Bull thinks.

>>324333196
I referred to actual quotations from DA:O and DA:I to iterate my point. I explained how the philosophy of the Qun directly contradicts with someone who is trans by using said references.

What was your response?

>That's wrong and ignorant. The End.

But I think I'm done anyway. Arguing on /v/ is already pointless enough. Arguing with an SJW on /v/ is like yelling at a brick wall.

>>324333479
>asking me why I identify as a male is like asking someone why they think the sky is blue, because it is and because I am a dude
Exactly.

>I'm a man because I have a y chromosome and produce sperm.
So you only thought you were a man once you had tests to confirm this?

If your balls got chopped off in some horrible snowboarding accident would you cease to call yourself a man?

>>324333519
Again, the qunari see trans people as the gender they say they are, so to them its a man being a warrior, I just said that. One is talking about women fighting, the other is trans people, these are not actually the same subject.

>>324333712
I wouldn't cease calling myself a man. But I also wouldn't start calling myself Caitlyn Jenner. Both outcomes are equally retarded.

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>>324310094
Agreed, combat and aesthetic going from medevial european to anime baf ass with huge swords and spike armor is fucking stupid,enemys in DA:O were actually threatening and ominous.

Also the templars are right, mages need to stop being such bitches.

>>324332891
>MUH SELF-INSERT!

Jesus Fucking Christ, Anon. I've been gaming for too long to keep making myself as every protagonist in these types of games. It gets fucking old after a while, and it was more enjoyable to create brand new characters like I'm helping write the story. Only reason I'm doing it with Fallout 4 is because my first name is on the list of characters that the robot says out loud... and even that was a short gimmick that lost it's value immediately.

>>324333712
>If your balls got chopped off in some horrible snowboarding accident would you cease to call yourself a man?
no because I would still have a y chromosome. I could lose the entire bottom half of my body and still be a man, because it's genetic.

sex isn't plug and play, it's beyond your control, and some people just can't stand that so they try to pretend like we're born with mr. potato parts, and we get to pick and choose. It's sad, but it's true.

>>324333605
>I referred to actual quotations from DA:O and DA:I to iterate my point
You at no point quoted anybody.

>I explained how the philosophy of the Qun directly contradicts with someone who is trans by using said references.
You stated your opinion on trans people, which isnt the same thing.

>What was your response?

The above. And now you are inventing something to make yourself feel better.

>>324333712
The fuck do you mean exactly?

Not that anon, but if I were to answer that question, I'd answer "because i was born male with male body parts and I don't think i'm the wrong gender or have body disphoria"

And how would you respond? Fucking SJW faggot.

>>324333895
>I wouldn't cease calling myself a man.
But by your standards you are not a man anymore. In fact if you never had tests to confirm your chromosones you shouldn't be calling yourself a man now.

or is it prehaps something other than these things that makes you feel the way you do?

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>>324333852
>Again, the qunari see trans people as the gender they say they are
No the fuck they don't. Again, like I said, don't lump all the qunari in with a single individual

>>324333995
>born male with male body parts
meaning should you lose those you would stop thinking of yourself as a man?

Thats a weird way to look at yourself.

>>324333712
>So you only thought you were a man once you had tests to confirm this?
you don't need a test to confirm that you have a y chromosome, when the baby comes out and has a penis and testicles it therefore has a y chromosome because it is a necessary component in forming that kind of human.

>>324333912
It's not necessarily about self inserting. I don't self insert as many male characters in RPGs. But playing as a woman in an RPG when you're a man sort of conflicts with man's perspective and can lead to a jarring disconnect from the role you're playing as.

Why would I play as a female character if I can't empathize with that character inherently?

Or maybe that's just splitting hairs. Fuck it, I Don't even care anymore.

>>324334217
>Again, like I said, don't lump all the qunari in with a single individual
Are you suggesting he is lying about how things work? if not there's no reason to discard his statements other than your bias.

>>324333912
you will always self insert no matter how hard you think you aren't when you play a game where you choose all of the characters responses you just might want some dick anon nothing to be ashamed of

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>>324334230
>Thats a weird way to look at yourself.
coming from the transexual who plays opposite sex dress up.

>>324334230
It doesn't matter if i lost them because i was born with them you fucking idiot.

>>324334269
Thats an impressive way to miss the point.
So before you knew what a chromosome was you didn't see yourself as a man?

You had no idea if you were a boy or girl until high school science class?

>>324334334
Are you suggesting fucking Sten is lying about how things work?

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>niggas talking about DAII like it's a good game.

What is this bizarro /v/?

DAII was garbage so was Inquisition origins was the only decent one

>>324334397
>coming from the transexual
who said I was?

I just don't ignore qualified professionals simply because of my own politics.

>>324334418
But you just said you having them is why you are a man.

ergo you lacking them would mean you are not.

>>324333968
see
>>324329454

Referring to quotes said by characters without citing the direct quotations verbatim.

Same shit,I just didn't literally pull the quote from Wikia. That's all.

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>>324334613
I'm not saying it didn't have flaws but I like it and it's my favorite. Varric and Aveline were the reasons to play it.

>>324334551
I'm suggesting that sten is talking about people who say they are both women and fighters.

In fact he isn't convinced you are a woman, because you are a warrior he finds it easier to believe you are actually male.

So I don't know why you think his stance supports you. But at any rate, even sten says you can't take his words as to be the whole of the qun, and yet here you are doing exactly that.

>>324334780
I literally said being born with them was why I identify as a man, along with not being mentally ill.

>>324324865
>Most advanced civilization in the world
Who also literary ruin everything by trying to usurp god and coming back as terrible abominations that regularly try and destroy the world.

One mage fucking up that is just a little boy nearly destroys an entire region in orgins raising armys of the dead, its to dangerous to let mages be free and they have to deal with it.

>>324334787
>Referring to quotes said by characters without citing the direct quotations verbatim.
Thats not what a quote is, its not even paraphrasing, thats referring to something.

>look at my facts and data and quotes!
>vaguely refers to a conversation

>>324334963
>In fact he isn't convinced you are a woman, because you are a warrior he finds it easier to believe you are actually male.
He was taking the piss, you fucking idiot. He even says as much.

>>324334535
that isn't missing the point at all, unless you're delusional enough to actually believe the 'sex is a societal construct' nonsense that tumblr created on the backs of radical psychiatric officials. I learned about what my parts do the same way you learned what yours do, from the society that we as a people have generated over thousands of years and the science that we've all come to accept as fact.

you come out with a penis and testicles you have a y chromosome and are more susceptible to certain diseases and defects based on your genetic make-up, and so from the second you exit the womb you are set along a path based on the simple fact that you have or do not have a y chromosome.

>>324334613
It's the natural cycle of /v/ lad. Soon skyrim will be viewed as a gem.

>>324334972
You don't remember being born with them, its impossible for something you never knew to be your motive.

Maybe you weren't bone right and your parents made the call to make you male, this happens. You'd have no idea and still be saying all you are now.

>>324325696
No hes just possed by a spirt, but spirts and demons are actually one and the same, justice can become venegance, hope becomes lust ext.

>>324335106
>He even says as much.
He never says he was making a joke about that subject.

If you can find a quote to refute me go ahead, all his dialogue is ripped and on the wiki.

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>>324335304
For the love of god someone ban this SJW for trolling

>>324335212
>unless you're delusional enough to actually believe the 'sex is a societal construct' nonsense
You clearly do.
> I learned about what my parts do the same way you learned what yours do, from the society

You just agreed with that tumblr menace.

Because the science is also against you, being trans isn't listed as some insanity in the DSM

>>324335494
i can't tell if he's retarded or just pulling your strings

>>324332404
>autistic sera

I remember until today
It was a hearty chuckle

>>324335427
>"Why would women ever wish to be men? It makes no sense"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqM9d6zKFU

>>324335706
None of that says he is joking.
Nor does it constrict anything.

People don't choose to be trans you know. They simply are. Hes talking about people who think they are women, not trans people.

>>324335706
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqM9d6zKFU
>that entire conversation

B T F O
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F
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Which Origins DLC is actually worth playing?

>>324333407
EA is fucking delusional and is trying to turn DA into their own TES but without willing to put any effort into it. It doesn't matter what you think about Bioware, no developer can make good games when working under retards like that.

>>324335878
They actually do.
>he's talking about people who think they are women
>not trans people

Contradiction after contradiction.

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>>324335878
>People don't choose to be trans you know.
>They simply are.

>>324335706
Morrigan: Look around you, then. you see women throughout this land, fighters and mages both.
Sten: That has yet to be proven.
Morrigan: Which? That they fight? Or that they are female?
Sten: Either.
Morrigan: So I am not truly a woman to you? Hmm. 'Tis good to know.

Clearly the physical aspects are not the most important to sten.

>>324335610
this is beyond retarded. This cannot be real.

Sex is not a societal construct, it is a genetic one. Society as a whole addresses sex, and instructs and forms around sex because of the scientific facts that are associated with sex. Just because society teaches you about your sex and what it means doesn't mean that it's a construct of it, the opposite is true as a matter of fact. Our society is more of a construct of sex than anything else.

>being trans isn't listed as some insanity in the DSM
because being a tranny is a symptom of dysphoria, it's not an individual illness.

>>324336053
You think people wake and and decide to have dysphora? Do you think people decide to have depression or any other issue?

>>324336208
>comparing depression to gender dysphoria

I mean, most of the time, it was depression that made those people multilate themselves, but that's just falacious, anon.

>>324336037
Again, a position you hold not being shared by others isn't a contradiction.

best case for you it makes them wrong.

>>324336208
Having dysphora doesn't make you a tranny, you retard

People addicted to getting plastic surgery also have dysphoria, but they don't see themselves as a different gender

Becoming a tranny aka transitioning is a choice.

>>324336454
You're a bit behind in the science kid.

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>>324296758
The Dragon Age 2 hate is a meme.
In reality its not a bad game and it does a lot of stuff better than its predecessor.
If only Bioware hadnt gone full retard with shit like the time skips and some others plot shit.
Hell, I enjoyed the plot in the second one more than the first one.
Hawke is a way better MC depending on how you play him. Party members are also cool but its hard to compete with Morrigan, Leliana and the rest of the first cast.
And some people complain that you only visit one city but Kirkwall was comfy as fuck.

>>324336498
>Becoming a tranny aka transitioning is a choice.
Those things are not interchangeable.

In the example we are talking about there is no transitioning.

The backpedalling and relativism is strong in this thread.

>>324336650
Fuck you, I HATE dragon age 2 and that's not based on any meme or someone else telling me how to feel

I played that game on day 1 and put 50 hours into it.

>>324336498
>Having dysphora doesn't make you a tranny, you retard
yes it does.

Dysphoria is a perpetual state of being unhappy or dissatisfied with life. It typically attaches to some aspect of the self because it is a constant 'nagging' that follows the person around. Sometimes the thing it attaches to is gender, making the suffering party believe that they are in the 'wrong body' and therefor hormone treatment and all that shit are used as ways to alleviate the stress that the dysphoria attacks.

The same way a plastic surgeon addict is trying to look a certain way to alleviate the nagging in their head, a tranny is trying to look the part they feel they should be playing. Being a transexual is not a mental illness in and of itself, but you have to have a mental illness to be a transexual.

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>>324336852