All-Time Great FPS

>>324275985
>console games as best shooters

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>>324275985
>3 gaylos
>no FEAR or Duke Nukem

F.E.A.R. was pretty great.

And the lack of any Serious Sam is disturbing.

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>no blood

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>those 3 at the bottom

>no blood
>no fear
>no duke
kek

>>324276398
>not appreciating the excellence and influence of early console shooters
Goldeneye was way ahead of the PC for its time. Stay pleb.

>>324276820
>>324276891
All three Halos are products of the absolute highest quality. Duke Nukem and Serious Sam nowhere near, and F.E.A.R. is borderline.

>>324276973
>niche game
>all time great list

>no MoH - Allied Assault
>fucking "Dude! Halo!", CoD after the first and Battlefield 2

where is doom 64 at? how the fuck you going to put goldeneye and perfect dark but no doom 64

This list is stupid as it values historical relevance and popularity. It's the analogous of saying Pong, Pac-Man or Breakout (or Ocarina of Time for that matter) are some of the best games ever.

It is a list for people who place more value on what other people think over the objective the objective traits of what is being judged.

>>324277419
>niche means bad
it doesn't say most popular first person shooters, blood is one of the best and if you don't think so you just have shit taste

>>324277186
Halo 3 easily merits a place on quality alone.

You might not like the other two, but you can't take away their impact and influence.

>>324275985
Where's Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow Warrior, Blood, Serious Sam and Painkiller?

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>>324277243
Was about to say blood and duke myself. Also Wolfenstein{s}


Doom 2 > 1 they are both great games, but lets not be lame.

1942> BF 2

>>324275985
>recent games that normies play
>old games that normies pretend to remember
>nothing beyond entry-level pleb shit

wow great list

>>324277629
Who said anything about it being bad, idiot?

This is an all-time great list, and Blood doesn't have the impact of a CoD4/Goldeneye, and it doesn't achieve the quality of a Half-Life/System Shock 2.

>>324275985
>Not a single fucking Timesplitter

>>324275985
>bioshock
>battlefield 1942
>brothers in arms road to hill 30
You missing many more
Casual list

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>>324277419
>. Duke Nukem and Serious Sam nowhere near, and F.E.A.R. is borderline.

I think this statement should be enshrined. Really quite an accomplishment. This might be the most casual thing ever said on /v/ not to mention how wrong it is. Anthony Burch is framing it as we speak. Truly you're a cu-ck amongst men anon of 4chans /v/

>>324277948
Borderline.

They didn't have the influence and impact of their spiritual predecessor, Goldeneye, nor did they achieve the quality of games like HL2/SS2. They were just very good 9/10 games

>>324277481
Doom64 is actually good and this is a bait list.

System Shock > System Shock 2 and Modern Warfare 4 might have been innovative but it only paved the way for shit and was merely pretty good on its own, nowhere near an all time great.

>>324275985
why is teamfortress 2 up there you gay faggot

>>324278194
>Influence and impact
If that's what your list is judged by, why do we have 3 halos? Only the first and MAYBE the third are needed, the second can be replaced with something iconic that was actually good, like Duke Nukem 3D.

>>324278185
Do detail the impact Duke Nukem and Serious Sam had on the industry then. It would be far more convincing than crying like a baby that your personal favorites weren't there.

Duke Nukem is essentially a Doom Clone with more attitude and a cooler MC. Serious Sam was pretty much the same thing. They didn't evolve or impact the genre nearly as much as most of what was listed in the OP, nor did they achieve the pinnacle of excellence.

>no Blood

shit list, would not reread

>>324277419
>Goldeneye was away ahead of the PC
>auto aim literally just because your controller is so fucking retarded in an FPS
>ahead of PC
>ahead of Doom

>>324278518
Because it isn't solely what it's judged by. Some are there for their sheer influence on the genre, others for being lock-in 10/10 quality games (or at least extremely close to it). Halo is a literal 10/10 trilogy, and had an enormous impact on multiplayer gaming. Halo 2 was especially influential in this regard.

>>324278452
>System Shock > System Shock 2
Contrarian detected, discarded.

>>324278892

system shock is better than 2. If you'd actually played it, you'd see why

>>324278892
It has to do with what's the better game rather than what opinion is popular.

>>324275985
>Halo CE
>COD 4
>All-time great
What kind of godawful taste does it take to have opinions like that?

>>324276973
this photo fucked with my head

>>324278652
Before Goldeneye, FPS Games were all about navigating mazes, finding keys/pressing buttons, then progressing to the next room/level. Goldeneye brought far more variety to the genre including objectives, stealth based gameplay, alternate routes, more advanced aiming among several other things. Dismissing it's influence is a clear sign of bitterness.

All time great? Maybe not but Wolfenstein: TNO was really fucking good.

>>324278572
Duke Nukem's innovations:
>Introduced Jumping
>Introduced Crouching
>Introduced looking up and down
>Introduced slopes instead of really, really narrow stairs
>Wide variety of weapon mechanics not seen in FPS (Shrink Ray, Trip Mine, Freezethrower)

>>324275985
Remove Doom and all the Call of Duty games then add Bioshock and you will have a 10/10 list

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>>324279342
If you want to argue about influence Doom is also hundreds of times more influential and Wolfenstein 3D should be on the list. I could have said that initially but I know influence is irrelevant to the quality and mechanics of the game and im not a fucking retard. Using it's influence as a defense is a clear sign of bitterness.

>>324277675
A lot of garbage games have 'impact and influence'

Doesn't make them good.

>>324279416
Didn't even realize that. Once I verify that it'll probably make v1.1.

The Chronicles of Reddick
The original Star Wars Battlefront
Star Wars Jedi Knight II Jedi Outcast
The Suffering
Far Cry

Delete the list and never post it again and you will have a 10/10 list.

>>324279575
>Doom is also hundreds of times more influential
Which is why it's on the chart.

>Wolfenstein 3D should be on the list
Borderline call. Even though it was the first classic shooter, it was still very primitive and simple. Doom was the big one.

>>324279826
>Jedi Outcast
The shooting in this game was the worst part of it though.

>>324279586
I know, so it's good that game on that chart is great, regardless of whether you hate them personally or not.

LONG AGO ON A DISTANT IMAGE BOARD
I, OP, THE SHIT-POSTING MASTER OF COCKS
UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE FAGGOTRY!

>>324279342
>things that you shouldn't shoot
>???
>innovation

Goldeneye was still about finding a key/mcguffin thing you need to get past a door, activate a thing or exit the level.

It was just console plebs' first taste of a shooter designed for controllers. Doom was and still is ignored by console babies, if your dad had a good job you had access to a real computer and played Doom as a kid

>>324275985
>it's in first person so it's a shooter
Also none of the Halo games are good even though /v/ is now mostly old enough that they're nostalgia picks.

>>324279854
Why are you selectively responding when taking those quotes out of context and only responding to them like thats all I said defeats the purpose of the reply? I wasn't trying to convince you Doom is just really good and Wolfenstein 3D should be on there as you make it seem. I'm saying Goldeneye is not ahead of what was on the PC platform and auto aim is so inexcusable and awful that it should not be on there and the "influence" is irrelevant. Its not like I just said those two things you liked and nothing else.

>>324278194
>MUH INFLUENCES AND IMPACT

doesn't change the fact that TimeSplitters was a progression and literal objective improvement on everything you liked about GE and PD

GE and PD were great games to be sure but TS2 trumps them easily. TS1 and 3 are shit though

>>324275985
>SS2
>Good shooter
top kek. it's good but not as a shooter

>>324275985
>No FEAR
It's shit

>>324275985
>HALOs
>Call of Duty 4
>Goldeneye
>No F.E.A.R.

Yeah, sure.

If you're including console FPS where is Timesplitters and Black?

>>324275985
>no bad company 2

>>324275985
>No FEAR
>No Tribes 2 which was ahead of the first
>No Opposing Force
>3 Halo games instead of just 1 and 2
>COD 4 instead of UO
>TF2
>No DOOM II
>Not a single Serious Sam
>Not a single Rainbow Six
>No Crysis
>No Killing Floor
Shit picture OP.

>no fear
>no Crysis 1

kill yourself faggot

>>324280367
thats why System Shock should be on the list

>>324275985
>ss2
>good shooter
Ha ha

>>324275985
>No Enemy Territory
>No Project IGI
>No NOLF
>No Serious Sam
>No Outlaws
>No Jedi Knight

>Has Halo shit (they were fucking mediocre fps games who tried to 'innovate' by copying shit from PC fps games and implementing it poorly on consoles), Team Fortress 2 and MW instead.

Your list is pretty shit. Also, System Shock 2 is not a shooter.

>>324275985
>no bo3
>no battlefront
>no wolfenstein the new order

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>>324280404
OP hasn't actually played most of these games and just threw some popular classics on there to seem credible.

>>324275985
>Descent 2
>FPS

kek

>>324278572
Serious Sam, along with Painkiller, both deserve a place for the unique enemy designs and for carrying the torch of the Doom-style shooter. Both series have genuinely difficult campaigns and have done a better job of replicating the feeling of Doom than any Doom title past 2 ever will.

>>324280460
>>324280547
because its not one of the all time greatest fps

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>>324276973

>Including Starsiege: Tribes but not Tribes 2 as well
What fucking plebian made this.

>>324280253
>auto aim is so inexcusable and awful that it should not be on there
Explain. You might not like it, but it worked on the N64, and it's not like the game didn't have any form of manual aiming. If anything, manual aiming could be used to great effect by skilled players.

It also doesn't change the fact that Goldeneye's innovations in single-player were well ahead what the PC could produce, and you've yet to properly counterargue that.

CoD: United Offensive is better than CoD1.

>>324280556
yea because those are not the greatest fps of all time

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>>324275985
>Goldeneye

>>324280729
>Goldeneye's innovations in single-player
Which ones?

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>>324280612
>BC2
>not an all time great
>somehow goldeneye is

>>324280121
>Goldeneye was still about finding a key/mcguffin thing you need to get past a door, activate a thing or exit the level.
That was one of many possible objectives in the single player. If you'd actually played the game, you'd realize it had a lot more variety and depth than its PC contemporaries at the time.

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>>324278572
>Duke Nukem is essentially a Doom Clone
I will fucking end you.

>>324280463
>Killing Floor
Get a load of this pleb

>>324280556
>Wolfenstein the New Order
If you're going to say a Wolfenstein game at least say RtCW

Even Wolf 09 was a better game though I'm probably the only person that thinks that

>>324280547
>Has Halo shit (they were fucking mediocre fps games who tried to 'innovate' by copying shit from PC fps games and implementing it poorly on consoles)
Rather than blurt mindless garbage, care to logically explain the reasoning behind this?

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>No Duke
>Call of Duty 4 get in instead
>HL2 IS IN INSTEAD OF DOUK


Kill yourself faggot.

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>>324280637
>anus

>>324280463
> No Opposing Force
>Cod 4 instead of UO
Opposing Force and UO are expansion packs, Cod 4 is an actual game.

>3 Halo Games instead of just 1 and 2
I'd argue 1 and 3, but Agreed.

>TF2
At launch it was actually good and not all shit memes and hats.

>No DOOM II
The level design was objectively worse than the first, but I would agree if we take modding into account thanks to all the additional enemies and the SSG.

>No Killing Floor
I'd argue Left 4 Dead would be a better fit.

>>324280815
Refer to this post >>324279342

>>324280729
You admit Doom was as influential as I said it was and thats why its on the list and one fucking reply later you say I have yet to "properly counterargue that"

You pretentious pompous douche, influence does not matter as I have already said. The list of the best fps games ever should be judged on the quality of each game and nothing else. But even if it did we have already agreed Doom is more influential than Goldeneye. I am done with this ridiculous retarded argument, the list is awful and Goldeneye isn't as good as you think it is.

>>324280891
yea goldeneye shouldnt be there.

>>324278572
>They didn't evolve or impact the genre nearly as much as most what was listed in the OP.

The way DN3D handles the world directly influenced Deus Ex.

I challenge you to go play DN3D and think for a moment that it isn't superior to Quake.

Everyone replays Duke now and again. Only the most dedicated id fags even try to install Quake.

>>324275985
united offensive should be included in it, i know its an expansion, but it was like a full game imo

>>324275985
I just need to know the reasoning for why you have 3 Halo games. Could you justify each individual game's purpose here instead of having only 1 or 2 of them on the list?

>>324279416
Ultima Underworld and System Shock had those first 4 things years before Duke (and in UU's case, before Woldenstein 3d even came out, though UU is and RPG and not a shooter).

>>324281009
Its a great shooter and one of the best examples of how to do a horde game out there.

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>>324279342
Influence means shit if its not still fun to play today. All the controls are clunky, the game is slow, and its ugly as sin. It aged like a loaf of bread and does not deserve to be considered one of the best fps games.

>3 halo games
Shit list. Halo is probably the most casual shooter I have ever played. It takes bits from other shooters, waters them down and slaps a shit space opera theme over the top.

>>324275985
>no return to wolfenstein/Enemy Territory
>gaylo 3

wtf???

>>324281708
The list is made by an underage using meme games

>>324281470
System Shock and Ultima Underworld implementations of all that sucked and don't you deny it.
Duke actually made everything feel natural and could actually stack rooms on top of eachother and have functioning mirrors that also acted as solutions to puzzles.

Play Ultima Underworld or System Shock in their original forms. You'll spend more time looking at the keyboard trying to figure out their archaic layouts than playing the actual game.

>>324281197
Left 4 Dead and Killing Floor couldn't be more further apart, you sound like a normie.
Left 4 Dead is a campaign based linear zombie-survival shooter with 4 characters and no classes/perks.
Killing Floor is a single map based horde wave "Zombie" survival shooter with alot of characters that are only different in appearance and 6 perks/classes that heavily affect how you play the game.

>>324275985
Ditch the Halo's then we'll talk

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>>324275985
>halo
>COD
>console shit

>>324275985
Good list aside from the cancer that is halo and it's two weapon aids

>>324281814
I finished SS for the first time today and the controls never gave me trouble after the first ~20 minutes (didn't use mouselook). Even if you can't keep track of the keys you can control everything with the mouse anyway. And I don't know why you mentioned stacked rooms, both of those games also had that.

>>324281821
Then why not both

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>>324282072
Bane?

no red orchestra?

>>324282204
You can add both, thats fine. But they aren't interchangeable with each other at all due to how different they are.

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>>324282072
>he didnt like Halo 2
>he thinks all Call of Dutys are inherently bad
>hes a baneposter
Clear signs of an underage.

First half of Crysis is propably the best single-player FPS ever

>>324282314
Oh no, I'm ot saying that, just that both are the best example of their respective styles. Different games I agree, I don't like KF or it's particular style but I get why is so important and why people like that stuff

>>324279826
The first mission of Jedi Outcast is insufferable.

>>324281269
>The list of the best fps games ever should be judged on the quality of each game and nothing else
Evidently you have a different idea of what a great is than I. Unlike me though, you're severely autistic, and can't accept the idea of someone not sharing your opinions without getting butthurt.

Good riddance, idiot.

>>324277186
>TF2
>Bad

Please, it's been ruined for sure, but it was probably the best multiplayer fps at it's prime

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>>324275985
>Halo
>Halo 2
>Halo 3

>>324281431
I admit, I wasn't aware of its innovations. The chart was made in my spare time, based on my own personal knowledge, but had I invested the time in researching, Duke Nukem 3D would've made it.

>>324282619
No. That was Enemy Territory.

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>>324275985
>GOAT-tier fps games
>nothing but entry level brands
Honestly, apply yourself a little. You didn't even include Planetside

>>324282202
>And I don't know why you mentioned stacked rooms, both of those games also had that.
No they didn't. It was flat surfaces with elevation, Same as Doom.
The Build engine was among the first to have rooms be on top of other rooms.

SS1 and Underworld are slow and clunky and while deserving of their recognition we're trail blaizers but they didn't perfect anything.

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>>324275985
>Halo
>Goldeneye
>Team Fortress 2

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>>324282360
>he likes halo 2
>he thinks there is more to COD than MP and a heavily scripted boring campaign with brain-dead AI
>posts anime
ok

>>324281197
>At launch it was actually good and not all shit memes and hats.
TF2 is still good, just because you bought into the "Hat trading simulator 2007" meme doesn't make it an accurate reflection of the game.

>>324282497
Yeah I get you. Funnily enough I'm usually bored to tears of horde games but I adore Killing Floor, its probably why I hold it in high regard because its one of the, if not the ONLY, horde game I like and I like it a lot.

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>>324282873
>implying the multiplayer for both of those games wasn't good enough on its own
But you've probably never played either, because others told you they sucked. Rather then forming your own opinion you parrot others and fail to grasp why they are disliked. There certainly are reasons to not like the CoD series, but gameplay isn't one of them.

>>324282778
Who said anything about perfection? The post I replied to originally said that Duke introduced those features but it didn't.
Anyway, now that I think about it I see you're right about the stacked rooms. I had in mind a part toward the game right at the end where there's a room where you can drop below the floor and move around beneath areas you could walk on, but I guess there may be some technical reason that isn't considered 2 rooms (the spots you can walk on/under are the same material used for red moving bridges).

>>324275985
Yep, I basically agree with the OP's image. But you should put Perfect Dark higher, above Goldeneye.

Funny how it's all old stuff at the top and recent stuff and bottom, but what else is new, right guys?

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>>324283415

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>>324284131
>not realizing they're listed in chronological order

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>counter strike

>goldeneye

>no blood

>no serious sam(any)

>not even fucking duke

Hl1 should have OP there as well, it's arguably as good as if not better than the original.

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>>324284280
>>324283415
kek

>>324284629

*OF

Whoops

>Half Life 2 instead of Opposing Force
>No S.T.A.L.K.E.R Shadow Of Chernobyl
>No Fear
>No Doom
Are you even trying?

>>324285669

>no doom

Are you fucking blind? It's the first one there.

Also stalker shouldn't be on it.

>ctrl-f
>the only game from the op pic nobody has mentioned is metroid prime
Why is this? Is it unanimously considered a good game?

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>>324275985
>multiple halo games
>no marathon

>>324278652

>Ahead of PC
>ahead of Quake and Doom

kek

>>324284629
No idea what is with the green-text hate for CS or Goldeneye--both time-tested classics of multiplayer FPS even if Goldeneye has aged like warmed over cheddar cheese in a desert.

While I am with you about Serious Sam and Blood being dope, I see this list as more of a "basic guide to FPS" and from there you can get further into niche titles.
Not OP

Remove Halo 3.
The customs were awesome, but the gameplay and balance is an enormous downgrade from 2.

>goldeneye
>perfect dark
>terrible controls, barely playable framerate, completely broken characters and broken weapons
>poor graphics even for the time
have to be locked on the spot to look up/down

You faggots are all hypocrites. You hate modern console FPS for poor controls, subpar graphics, bad framerate and poor gameplay and yet you praise these above all others purely because you played them as kids.

>>324282271
>>324282072
You're a big ass

>>324286952
4u

>>324286947
I only played the XBLA re-release of PD a few years ago, it was great.

>>324276398
Perfect Dark was pretty damn amazing especially when consider all the content they crammed into an N64 cart. Really wish there were more shooters with a corporate espionage theme going on.

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>>324275985
>Halo games

>>324275985
Where the fuck is Stalker?

>ut2k4
>not the original UT or Unreal
Da fuk mane

>>324288627
Oh fuck I'm blind and didn't see UT
Go on, call me names

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>>324279163

Nice meme retard

>>324275985
>no painkiller

>>324288861
>it's popular so it's great
>file name implying I didn't own a 360 last gen
Great post anon 10/10, an excellent contribution and a top notch argument.

>>324288001
The rerelease is acceptable, but it felt like cramming a gamecube game on an N64 cart, it was just terrible in the way it ran. It had some good ideas and the XBLA version is definitely better, but especially with Goldeneye it just doesn't deserve the praise it gets. It's like putting Borderlands 2 on the list but only using the Vita version.

>BF2 on the list
>BF1942 isn't
shameful

>>324289365
BF2 has a better metacritic score for a reason.

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>>324288861
>two digits explain if a game is good or not

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>>324275985
>Descent 2
>Starsiege Tribes
This makes me happy.

>>324288736
Peter

>>324282778

Nigga there are slopes in the first room in System Shock.

>>324281814
Nah, System Shock is the shit unless you're incapable of learning a new control scheme.
>leaning
>crouching
>going prone
>jumping + jetpacks
>manual reloading
>alternate ammo types and firing modes
It's really impressive, even to a someone more used to modern shooters.

>>324279416
>introduced looking up and down
>Marathon
>System Shock

>>324292672
Also, stacked rooms.