Ok, I want to try to make this thread early enough in the day so that most of the underaged kids on this board wont see it.
Is anyone else immensely disappointed in the reaction 4chan had to this game? I know, I get it, "/v/ is not one person" But you have to agree that the great majority of people willing to post on this board immediately dismiss this game. Every single Undertale thread on this board has been complete and utter shit. It will devolve into a shitposting mess 100% of the time, regardless of how many people want a genuine discussion.
I say I am disappointed because I am one of those people who wants to genuinely discuss the game. As much as /v/ sucks typically, when you want a good discussion about the more personal elements of a game, /v/ is perfect. I thought that Undertale would be perfect for that kind of discussion, but the fact of the matter is that, in the current climate, it will not happen.
You know what's REALLY awful?
Watching Dragon's Dogma falling to the same shitposting. Most of the threads of full of dumb fuckery about how overrated or how it's unfair and too hard.
It's unbelievable. Like you can't even discuss HL2 on /v/ now without a giant brigade of shitposters loudly reminding everyone that it was overrated and a shit game.
Not everything. Witcher 3 tended to have excellent discussion ever since its launch, as long as you avoided talking about graphics.
Most Nintendo titles have excellent discussion at all times.
I know what you are saying though. I just fear that the backlash toward Undertale is more extreme than we typically see.
Another meta essay that would be better off on /qa/
It's popular, that's how popularity works, the thing explodes with discussion and the same braindead contrarians will swarm to fling shit in order to get the (You)s from the naive idiots who were too charmed by the game to tell genuine criticism from shitposting
because there's nothing to discuss, and if the thread doesn't devolve into shitposting it devolves into tumblr fanart dumps and 'i want to fuck the goat/spider/ghost'
if you want to discuss the game go do it on tumblr, or better yet
Witcher 3 was shitposted into the ground for it's entire pre-release over the graphics downgrade. Don't just say 'avoided the graphics', it was inevitably brought up in every thread.
The only games that can actually operate here without endless shitposting is Nintendo stuff, mostly because I'm guessing people outside of that particular little cult don't care enough to talk about it.
Here's the deal - splitting /v/ into /vr/ and /vg/ was a horrible fucking decision, same as creating /r9k/. Moot made fucking bad decisions, can we agree to that?
The problem is, all the actual discussion of a game post release migrated to /vg/, where the smaller base turned it into a weird, impenetrable circle jerk of waifu posting where nothing ever gets cleaned out. /vr/ funneled away all the oldfags who actually have been playing games before the Xbox360.
/v/ should be renamed 'Pre-release Hype and Shitpost Containment'.
Yeah it is sad but then /v/ is no loger about video games it is about complaining and being a faggot.
But i like the game for what it was set out to do and i never did the genocide run since i loved the characters to much. And it made me feel really good when i did save everybody, it has been i while since i felt really good after playing a game.
And the dating with Papyrus was really cute.
>Witcher 3 tended to have excellent discussion ever since its launch
what did you smoke ? I remember specifically going to /vg/ to have a more tame discussion, everything on /v/ was "MUH DOWNGRADE"
the guy is right, anything that is popular enough is the perfect bait target for the occasional shitpost, but when you have a board as big as /v/, the occasional shitpost of 5% of the board's population means every popular game gets trashed
>fell for the feelsbait
undermemers are the biggest faggots of all time
Definitely. It is amazing how many games are labeled on /v/ as completely irredeemable, despite the fact that these games are objectively good games. I hate to use this term, but I believe hivemind mentality is extremely real here, and has been stronger than ever.
>I still like the game though.
Then go ahead and talk about it, what about the game do you enjoy? Has anything really stood out in the game that you really enjoy?
This is an over-simplistic view and accomplishes nothing.
I doubt most of the people praising Earthbound have even played it all the way through, especially on this board.
Every fucking /vg/ thread is like that.
Have you seen the Skyrim general? These people all know each other from their in-game avatars, it's fucking creepy dude.
/vg/ is probably THE most incestuous and insular board.
The structure of how /vg/ works - encouraging long, LOOOOONG recurring threads about a single topic just breeds weird circlejerking. It'd be better if it was never broken off from /v/ and instead moderators actually just clamped down on obvious generals.
>You are not allowed to have fun your own way.
>This is an over-simplistic view and accomplishes nothing
It's a correct view in a meta thread that will accomplish nothing but allowing a handful of anons to vent about how they can't talk about a game they like.
In reality, there were, are and will be many opportunities to talk about this game on /v/ when you stop replying to people who post purely to get replies.
On average the more popular something is, the more it'll draw trolls to it. Trolls and shitposters in general seem to target whatever has the most popularity or threads at the moment. Hell, even less popular stuff gets shitposted into oblivion most of the time.
Getting genuine discussion on /v/ for any amount of time is practically a miracle. That said if you want discussion, you might be able to swing it on /vg/ at least.
Come on man, you've been on /vg/ before, you know how shitty it is for any type of real discussion. Quit using that board as a set piece for your arguments.
Guarantee you I've been on this board longer than you have.
>Here's the deal - splitting /v/ into /vr/ and /vg/ was a horrible fucking decision, same as creating /r9k/. Moot made fucking bad decisions, can we agree to that?
I completely agree with this. Definitely. Again, I really hate to use this term, but we lost all of our board culture because of this shit.
>The problem is, all the actual discussion of a game post release migrated to /vg/, where the smaller base turned it into a weird, impenetrable circle jerk of waifu posting where nothing ever gets cleaned out. /vr/ funneled away all the oldfags who actually have been playing games before the Xbox360.
Again, spot on. However, because it is early in the morning in America, and most shitposters are American (do we really even need to question this?), I thought that I could stir up a decent discussion, not necessarily on Undertale, but maybe about the topic we are presently talking about.
I was literally blown away on my first playthru since I had low expectations.
Now I see a much broader perspective of the game, and the community itself.
The part of the game that I actually liked the most is the date with Papyrus. The music reminded me of Ace Attorney. Geezus those memories.
>pop culture references
It's easy to see why /v/ would have a hate boner for this game. The fact that it's actually not a bad game causes it to also be posted too often, couple this with the false flag posts and people quickly start to blur the lines of UT fans and bait and get sick of it in general.
The pushing and botting of the game to win Gamefaqs game of all time also caused a severe amount of butthurt amongst fans of genuinely better games
and Smash, which caused even more hatred towards it.
I'm kinda curious about this. What is it about the characters that you love so much? I've played through the game on true pacifist already and while the characters are amusing, they don't seem to be anything special to prevent a run through.
That said, the Genocide path kinda seems a bit bland in my opinion and the few real fights are stupidly hard.
>Guarantee you I've been on this board longer than you have.
If that is the case and you're still legitimately surprised by this, then you're an idiot. While you could've been forgiven for being ignorant if you were new, if you claim you've been here a long time then there's no other explanation.
>disappointed in /v/
but anon, that implies you had faith in this board. that also implies this board is worth anything at all.
and not to mention, you actually expect discussion on this god-forsaken containment board.
the amount of replies each thread gets is just confirmation that the majority of /v/ loves to shitpost about games rather than play them.
if you want actual game discussion, go to reddit. you get less flame wars, but more unironic meme posting.
there's a reason they call 4chan and reddit "two sides of the same coin". same applies to tumblr.
>But i like the game for what it was set out to do and i never did the genocide run since i loved the characters to much. And it made me feel really good when i did save everybody, it has been i while since i felt really good after playing a game.
Completely know what you're feeling with that. It brought back that childish feeling of believe that you were really interacting with a world inside of your game (because you were!). I have yet to see a modern game pull that off.
>Every single Undertale thread on this board has been complete and utter shit. It will devolve into a shitposting mess 100% of the time, regardless of how many people want a genuine
Not in the first 2 weeks
>I say I am disappointed because I am one of those people who wants to genuinely discuss the game
We already discussed everything except for muh deep lore
Should've jumped on the bandwagon earlier, OP
First two weeks were godlike and as soon as teh metacritic score came out it was clear as day that further threads will be shitposted to death.
I literally don't care for this game anymore and hearing it everywhere annoys me
they already have one they refuse to use.
it's fucking bronies all over again
Fuck me for actually caring about another poster.
Yep, I have no idea how /vg/ could fall so far, I mean this is 4chan we are talking about. Yet, posters there are no worse than tumblr or reddit. Ever since we started catering to phaggots we let 4chan fall down a terrible cliff.
Why would you have this saved?
it's a meme you newfriend, that's how /v/ works.
When it just came out everyone loved it, after it shat on mgs5 and became one of the most loved games ever with 5 thread for hour then everyone on /v/ went full autistic and hateful.
This said: >>>/vg/128850889
You have two choices man.
1. Accept the opinions of those around you. Assimilate these into your own identity.
2. Not give a shit what a bunch of outcast freaks on an anime imageboard think, and keep on enjoying the shit out of your game/life.
The people that make threads about undertale on /v/ aren't typically people who like it.
it's usually idiots shitposting about how it's part of the sjw marketing conspiracy or it's the next mlp
If anything, there should be an undertale shitposting thread on /vg/ for these people to flock to.
Take a dive into the mind of the average 4chan user and you will never be surprised by their behavior again.
Most people base their judgement of a thing on what other people think. Band-wagoners. The 4chan user, on the other hand, is unsure about his own value. So his main objective is to prove himself better than the rabble. This means that his judgement is still based on what others think, but they take the opposite position.
In other words, they are contrarians. The more popular they perceive something to be, the more they loathe it. I guess all people with taste did this in junior high or whatever, but eventually learned to think clearly about what we actually enjoy, and judge things based on that. Most 4channers simply haven't learned that.
While we're at it, let's put tangentially related bullshit like drawthreads there too.
Threads that don't specifically pertain to one or several video games shouldn't be on the video games board.
I don't know where you've been living and how big a rock your house has been for the past year, but there's been a LOT of discussion on UT's merits and faults in pretty much every thread.
Sure, the shitpost ratio is 10:1 or higher, but there's still people who discuss the game precisely because there's always a special snowflake like the OP who feels disenfranchised by the amount of hate their precious little game is getting and so they keep on harping on and on and on about how unfair it is that UT is getting shat on so much.
We get it. You like it. It's not a bad game. It's a solid 6/10 with sparks of briliance in between. However, there's parts where the game is a chore to chug through the endless inane and Tumblr culture jokes and the music is the only thing that allows the game to not be complete shit for chapters at a time.
So, in sumation: Me and a lot of anons are sick and tired of you faggots not shutting the fuck up about how disenfranchised you are because X game you like is being shitposted to death.
You're forgetting people who just shitpost for the sake of shitposting. They can be people who don't give a damn or don't even believe in the crap they're spewing. They just want a rise out of people. That is the majority of what you see on /v/ especially.
You're in an undertale thread, at least a little full blown furfaggotry is to be expected.
>this is overly simplistic and acomplishes nothing
Let me get this straight:
>I'm simplifying your argument
>and then dismissing it because I simplified it enough to allow me to say it doesn't even exist.
congrats on being a mongoloid.
Everyone says that, but I honestly don't believe it. Everyone is perpetually irritated and snippy and obnoxious here, so much that trolling is virtually impossible. Trolling is only fun when people are affected by it in some way.
No, I really just think there a lot of dumb, loud people spewing their opinions as loud as they can.
I already did both. It's fine if people here hate this game because of this reason or another.
If I still smile seeing that damned fat skeleton pour ketchup on my burger, or watch that long-necked dog reach the fucking heavens, then all is good I guess.
There is obvious false flagging though.
Like when Undertale didn't get in the top 10 best written games or whatever.
The same thread was made over and over just to spark fighting over this fact.
You'd think that, but yeah its a lot of shitty trolling. Not even the fun kind where someone over reacts or does something stupid. Its the " I'm bored and want to kill some time, so lets argue on the internet " brand of shitty trolling that does nothing beyond waste everyone's time.
For some reason, some people fucking love this shit and eat it up like its fucking ambrosia.
I have been very alone for a while and when i played undertale for the first time it had some real fun for months. Papyrus remind me a little bit of myself since he collects figures and is childish. And Undying is very close how my best friend is, but we rare see each other.
I just guess all the characters just reminded me of my friends and family. Since it had been a while since i had talked or seen them, i really connected to every character in the game.
But i see if someone does not like them or find the game boring.
So it's a kind of sad trolling where you just want any social interaction you can get? At least regular trolling is exciting because you rarely get to interact with people in that way.
Mate there's a guy on here that's conditioned himself, fucking Pavlov style to get sexual satisfaction from shitposting.
Don't underestimate the power of weirdos with time. Just think if say, the Barneyfag decided to focus his efforts on shitposting instead.
My problem with /v/ isn't that people hate Undertale. No no, I wouldn't want an image board where people's thoughts and opinions were policed like it was some 1984 dystopian future. The board should be free to NOT be a hug box.
My problem is that most /v/ denizens have a tendency to hold a double standard. What makes Undertale a horrible game could make their favorite game a classic for example, even if there's no difference between the two. For example, I'll list just a few of /v/'s "criticisms".
>I hate how Metatton is implied to be trans! that's so disgusting! mental illness hurr durr
>omg Birdo is so sexy! le trap meme xD
>I hate quirky meta humor!
>omg Kid Icarus is so funny! Pitty pat!
>Wow why does Undyne have to be so strong? stupid sjw pandering feminists and their strong women
>Bayonetta is so epic! you go girl, teach those mysoginist pigs a lesson with your boobs! XD
>grrr why is this game so casual, it should be super difficult!
>hey man, Yoshi's Wooly World and Kirby shouldn't have difficulty. They're "comfy"!
>I hate these graphics! Stupid pandering to nostalgia with its gay 8 bits!
>haha Mario Maker makes me nostalgia with its ironically bad graphics XD
And so on.OF COURSE, there are the rare people who don't hate Undertale for these reasons, and they have a legitimate problem with it that is based in personal preference and not just some desire to be a hipster hating something popular. In which case I have no problem with that. But it's almost never the case otherwise.
>I don't live in the real world with real people, instead I hide in a childish reality I create to keep myself sheltered from being an adult and living my life..
Typical undertaile fan. Enjoy realizing you've failed to develop as a human being when it's already to late.
Thats more or less it yeah. I don't even think the trolls think what they do is funny, but they don't seem to have anything better to do or don't want to invest time into anything they can't just abandon.
Its really weird cause trolling is really only fun if something interesting comes out of it. Someone overreacts to an absurd degree or whatever. Personally, I only think its funny if its something you can talk about later and make other people laugh about. Instead, most trolling on 4chan amounts to " I said something stupid and people replied. LOL "
with every community, segregation usually kills off the wider sense of belonging. you don't get as many responses to niche topics on discussion boards if everyone only browses their containment boards.
when you talk about an old classic on /v/, you usually get hundreds of responses simply because it's in everyone's view. however, if there were a general on /vg/ just for that one game, you'd only get a select few committed posters who will post until there's nothing left to post about.
see: 5n@f general. ever since lore discussion faded off, the threads have devolved into drawfagging, roleplaying and memeposting. it never ends well for the niche boards.
when you compare what discussion turns into, compared to what it could be on /v/ (see: infinite perpetual flame wars), you can see why people would rather ragepost forever to pass time, rather than circlejerk in agony and watch their hope fade away..
I've heard some people say this elsewhere. Seems a bit like projecting to me honestly, but if it made you enjoy it more all the more power to you.
For me, the only thing that stopped me from a genocide run was how tedious it seemed.
Did you ever play Dragon Age Inquisition?
It's a solid 7/8 / 10 game that lasts well over 80 hours.
However, because there's so much SJW shit in the game and the development cycle (every important good person in the game is female, every pitiful enemy protagonist is male, male enemies are often pathetically dealt with by random female characters too stronk 4 men) that /v/ holds the game as a bad meme and nothing more.
That's the most overrated defense I've ever heard. Until proven otherwise, yes /v/ is one person, mostly because this board has a prevalent and easily deducible hivemind that dictates what games are allowed to be discussed.
Jokes on you, i have a fiance, my own apartment and go to college. It just that i school takes alot of my time.
>i'm from tumblr and let me tell why 4chan won't let me create 10 threads simultaneously about a game that's filled by furfags posting nothing but lewd pictures about how you will fuck a skeleton/goat.
Please fuck off back to your tumblr shithole
>redditor pulling something off of r/4chan in an attempt to prove he's not a total fucking newfag who discovered 4chan last summer and still can't comprehend how things work
it will always be an endless source of amusement for me, watching you retards try and figure out what 4chan is about or rather was about. you will NEVER EVER get it
should've been here when it came out. That's when you're going to find good discussion. Now people are tired of hearing about it.
/v/ loved it and had nearly constant threads upon release.
When you see threads with people defending and shitting on Skyward Sword in equal amounts, or when you see people discussing the merits and and flaws to a localisation project from both sides.
When you see clearly in this thread that some people on /v/ adore Undertale and others see it as an overrated mediocrity, you will know that /v/ is possibly the least "hivemind" board on this site.
But I don't think you care about being right or wrong. Here's another (You) for the pile.
>When you see threads with people defending and shitting on Skyward Sword in equal amounts
That never happens though. The rare occasion when people are allowed to discuss Skyward Sword is usually drowned out by people calling them "sonyggers" or some other console-centric slur. It happens every time, with every nintendo IP.
Likewise, /v/ is never allowed to make an Undertale thread without people calling it a meme game, or a tumblr game. A thousand actual meme and tumblr games get posted here everyday, like Splatoon and Metal Gear Solid, but they're some how immune to these kinds of posts. A hivemind is a perfect explanation of why.
>complains about underage when it comes to videogames
>taking this shit board serious
>most overated game since gone home
wow, just go to /vg/ if you rly wanna talk about it
Dunno what you're whining about, OP. Just don't click on the threads that are clearly going to be filled with people samefagging for attention.
Don't be a defensive fan, nobody is happy that way. Discuss when the opportunity arises, and ignore the offhanded cries for attention from lonely anons.
And for heaven's sake, STOP making these shitty meta threads. They are so worthless to everybody.
I love the game, but I was thinking the other day when someone told me it was the best game ever made
I thought of mario and luigi superstar saga and how it was filled to the brim with content and jokes and good/imaginative art
How can anyone call this game perfect? It was a very good use of 10 hours but thats it
No, that's not the case either. There are plenty of people with moderate opinions on games, but people don't pay attention to them because they'd rather be ANGRY than have a discussion.
With-us-or-against-us tribalism mentality is the thing that's dumbing down /v/ the most, and it won't go away unless anons make a conscious effort to lead by example and not treat /v/ like a chatroom when throwaway one-liners are posted just to get people mad.
Your mistake is focussing on the attention seekers of the board instead of tuning them out.
People post inflammatory buzzwords in the hope of getting replies and curing their boredom for 5 seconds, not because they believe it.
The dude's a genius the later half of 2015 was absolute shit so releasing a game like this at that time was perfect.
Look at all of the attention this game is getting. It was either this,battlefront or FO4.
/v/ had positive threads about this game for weeks. Then they discovered that Undertale is popular on other sites and a lot of people reacted by a) disliking the game on principle because those sites include reddit and tumblr or b) going in with unrealistic expectations and being disappointed because Undertale was incredibly overhyped.
And of course there are the obnoxious sides of the fandom, the furries and the memers.
All of /v/'s problems with Undertale can be traced back to its fans in some way.
>I say I am disappointed because I am one of those people who wants to genuinely discuss the game.
Because your fanbase as a whole wanted to do that last night, they spoiled two of the three final bosses and quite a few plot details for me. I was going to buy it but I'll always hate Undertale now. Never have I seen a more cancerous fanbase which openly talks about the biggest plot details of a game without any spoiler tags. Which is why you should all fuck off to >>>/vg/ if you want to talk about the game in so much detail that you end up spoiling it for everyone else.
The game is such blatant emo-porn feelbait that there's no way to discuss it objectively.
Yeah the sad monsters are sad and everyone has a good feel and a good cry, and everyone's really invested in how all the songs gave them a good feel and a good cry, and everyone is defensive about the soft furry animals that gave them a good feel and a good cry.
It's like disucssing the cinematography in a gangbang video.
I feel so bad for you.
You had the final bosses spoiled for you?
That fucking sucks man, the reveals to the final bosses are done amazingly and one of them made my heart skip a beat, experiencing them first hand is quite something.
It's just a damn shame you've been spoiled hard for a game you were going to buy and enjoy.
That's the fanbase for you though, they can't stop gushing over moments that hugely spoil the game.
Yes, and then the attention-seekers proceeded to fling shit at the mention of Undertale when they realised it was getting popular.
Please read posts in context before replying straight away.
Maybe they had genuine gripes with it?
You're the real barrier to discussion because you don't take negative opinions seriously.
Which makes any further discussion, again, pointless.
While that sucks and I know how that is, what did you really expect for going into a thread about a game you haven't beaten yet? Someone will ALWAYs post spoilers without tags it doesn't matter the game. Hell, in some games, some people will purposely make a thread with spoilers in the OP just to fuck with people.
If you're interested in a game, avoid the hell out of threads until you've played it yourself.
Genuine gripes don't come in the form of spamming "Undermeme" over and over and trawling tumblr for whatever objectionable fanmade content they can find.
If people dislike the game but cannot be bothered articulating it, they should learn to hide and ignore.
If someone wants to drop a couple of lines on why they disliked a game, they are absolutely free to do so.
>what did you really expect for going into a thread about a game you haven't beaten yet?
I expect discussion of a game with spoiler tags where necessary. Look at all the Chronicles X threads we've had. Every time someone's talked about big plot twists in certain chapters or boss fights, they use spoiler tags. That's how it should be.
An Undertale OP last night?
>"So I just beat the true final boss X in the pacifist route. How did he turn into Y?"
And then somewhere in another thread....
>"Oh man, the boss fight against Z was really fun. Can't believe he would be the final boss at the end of the genocide route
I've never seen a game spoiled at this magnitude on /v/. Fuck, I mean even the Fallout 4 spoilers at launch were disguised as GIFs and didn't outright spoil it for people browsing through the threads.
>Anons not liking things I like
>Anons manufacturing controversy about popular topics
You must be new here
this. dragons dogma thread were top notch until the pc annoucement. it's nice to play the game at 1080/60 for once, but the community shat the bed hard. no where have i heard that before? thanks pc "gamers"
This is just partly the issue, and not even the biggest part (which most people have already covered here) but it is a prevalent one that naturally causes a positive feedback loop of hatred.
Your opinion is one I share completely, it's probably shared by hundreds and thousands of unique users over the time from its release until current day. If just 10% shares its opinion, which will look EXACTLY the same as yours, that's over 10,000 posts. That's if they talk about undertale exactly once.
That's a lot of times to hear someone tell you exactly the same thing over and over. It's compounded by the fact that not everyone discovers something at once. Some people were following and picked it up on release, I think a lot more came to it after hearing it wasn't shit. So what you get is this constantly cascading "Ilikethisgameitsgreat" threads and posts, where people post more than once.
so 10,000 posts becomes more like 80,000, 90,000, which again I stress bring absolutely nothing new to /v/ at all. It's essentially spam. It's the biggest turnoff imaginable.
Again it's not the core problem, which is more of a classic mix of elitism, paranoia and fun. It is an often overlooked aspect though.
Here's my issue with the game
Almost every single character is annoying
Some have a couple point where I like them, but at least 90% of the major characters don't
I honestly don't see why anyone would like any of the characters.
it's probably because the feels part of the game didn't resonate with you, whether it's the humour or the dramatic elements. A lot of the time the characters just pump out jokes or whatever like clockwork whereas any real character development happens rarely
Hey OP, I'm the tester guy that would lurk and talk to dudes before release.
You really missed out when the game first came out before it exploded as the threads were pretty great then. Now that the fanbase has grown and bloated to this diseased mess this is about all you're going to get.
If it makes sense on lead up I wanted people to know about the game because having played it I knew it was great and I'd post random tidbits here to build up hype but now you can't click on anything gaming related without it being frontpaged- a friend that did more then testing is constantly getting hounded on his opinions of the game just because of his involvement. A lot of people are just sick of seeing it, that's all.
Mix that with /v/ being contrarian as usual and anons desperate to be the next le epic ruseman and you have the current situation
There used to be a lot of good discussion of this game early on release. But now most people have already finished the game for some time now and don't care enough to talk about it.
So now the only people will talk about the game are the autistic fan-base and trolls.
>If it makes sense on lead up I wanted people to know about the game because having played it I knew it was great and I'd post random tidbits here to build up hype
You are part of the cancer that caused this mess in the first place if that's true.
Undertale was really popular here the first week it was out until it became.. well, really popular.
It's not as though this is unique to undertale. It happens here all the time.
It's a decent game bogged down by some memes and excels at presentation of its assets and manages to change the formula up for combat just about every boss fight. The soundtrack also did wonders for it. It also went places you wouldn't expect and had a surprising end game boss fight (flowey I mean).
Of course the community went to shit when people wouldn't stop talking about it. A mix of frustration and jealousy.
See, you die hard Undertale fans always take things personally don't you? Like what you want, I don't give a shit.
No, I'm talking about people who kept posting about it constantly with images/"tidbits" from the game when it was launched. This then lead to an influx of Undertale threads over time and mass hate for the game on this board at present day. After about a week, the huge volume of Undertale threads made people sick thus causing the divide we have at present.
I like the game OP its charming and fresh to me. I don't like the community behind the game but whatever that don't confront me.
>I'm talking about people who kept posting about it constantly with images/"tidbits" from the game when it was launched
You mean the same people who did the same for Fallout 4? Witcher 3? Splatoon? Smash? Every game ever made?
>you die hard Undertale fans
Haven't even played it. You need to reel in your autistic little shitfits and stop crying because people that aren't you like something. Consider not hanging out on a video game board if video games and the people that play them get your crusty panties in a twist this much.
The case of DD is justified though. I've never seen something so bland and generic getting so much praise for nothing.
Communities always go to shit the longer they exist.
Some have a bigger halflife than others and some are H7.
Personally I never cared much for Undertale and actively avoided discussions or talk about it, since I wanted to play it later down the line.
I bought it then during last steamsale and was kind of dissappointed so far. I only played about 2h but so far the game is boring.
The humour falls flat on me, the puzzles are the easiest and most obvious thing ever and the danmaku elements crossed with an RPG are by far not as interesting as I hoped they would be. The music is really good, but then the visuals are horrible with two styles clashing that really don't fit well together in my eyes.
All in all, I don't see why people are so hyped up about it. Maybe the story/writing gets good after a while, but the gameplay elements so far are barebones and lackluster.
>You mean the same people who did the same for Fallout 4? Witcher 3? Splatoon? Smash? Every game ever made?
Did them games have about 6+ threads a day or did they have 2 big threads a day in their first week? Do they still have daily threads?
>You need to reel in your autistic little shitfits and stop crying because people that aren't you like something.
You know, when a fanbase takes a game and dissect it to the point where it spoils the magic of the game for other and it doesn't become fun to talk about then it's no wonder why the majority of this board hate Undertale and want all threads about it moved to /vg/.
I was cancer because I talked about the game and engaged with people?
Dude come on now.
Yeah, I'm kind of sick of seeing it in everything too. I kinda hate that any game on the wii-u is instantly spammed with Undertale now, it's absurd.
I'd be interested to see if the people who were disappointed in the final game are the same ones who played the demo. I enjoyed everything from the demo, less so with the snow area but still having fun and then less and less as the game went on. I only really liked the bosses after that. The game really just dragged on and on for me. Anyone else?
Anon, I stopped posting here about undertale like 4-5 days after it released, and I didn't make a single thread for the game- I only went into ones that were already made and just talked about it.
Blaming me for the overflow of threads is stupid and literally doesn't make sense any way you look at it but if it helps you sleep at night go for it.
Honestly I thought waterfall was kind of boring overall and while I liked Hotland it really could of been trimmed down a lot. The Alphy/Mettaton thing went on for way longer then it had any right doing so.
>Did them games have about 6+ threads a day or did they have 2 big threads a day in their first week? Do they still have daily threads?
Yes, they had constant threads made, dozens at a time, and they still get daily threads about them despite having generals on /vg/.
>You know, when a fanbase takes a game and dissect it to the point where it spoils the magic of the game for other and it doesn't become fun to talk about then it's no wonder why the majority of this board hate Undertale and want all threads about it moved to /vg/.
If the threads are spoiling the "magic" then moving them elsewhere won't stop that from happening. The only difference is that you won't see it unless you actively go looking for it. If you don't want to get spoiled, then don't go into the threads. Every game has its honeymoon period before it gets torn apart and examined down to its core. Quit having a tantrum because you missed the boat.
Its almost like your game has been discussed to death, and if you want discussion you head on over to fucking /vg/ because its become a general at this point
So fuck off to /vg/
Evidently /v/ is exclusively for shitposting.
>Blaming me for the overflow of threads is stupid and literally doesn't make sense any way you look at i
I said you contributed to it. You were't the only person to post Undertale threads on here in the first week it came out.
I'm just sick of all these threads, man.
By your retarded logic, the person who made the very first Undertale thread on /v/ back when the demo came out is the person responsible for everything today.
Things would be peachy keen if that one person didn't make that one thread.
/v/ loves anything as long as it's obscure and untainted by those filthy normies.
Just look at Sorcerland and Tuba Croc. Both were full of gay furry faggotry and yet /v/ loved it because it was unknown.
I understand his difficulty, but it's more or less based around memory.
As long as you have at least a little bit of patience it's not impossible.
Yeah but even then, do people not know how to filter the feelings for more story line?
>blaming tumblr and reddit
>blamimg other sites for the downfall of this one
yeah no, most Undertale posters really hate the game to get triggered 24/7 (never played the game) or falseflag for replies
I enjoyed the game it was allright, other than the overworld feeling like a cheap earthbound the battle mechanics were fun
Stop with the boogeyman /v/ is shit period.
>do people not know how to filter the feelings for more story line?
We're talking about an audience willing to shut off an entire game, niche, or even genre if it offends their feelings. What makes you think they'd make an exception?
I DONT CARE FOR UNDERTALE BUT ALL THE FAGGOTS COMPLAINING ABOUT THREADS SHOULD FILTER THESE
i forgot the name of the rest of the characters, but you get the deal.
I was able to, so were most of my friends that played it. It just seems weird to me that people are unable to distance themselves, I love the characters too, but it is only a video game.
I guess a better way to word the question would be, how could people from 4chan, not be able to?
If you come here, clearly you see, and deal with a lot of garbage, I would have figured that would harden people.
/v/ was hyped for undertale long before it came out. We had the demo.
We also had really good undertale threads during release before it got immensely popular, discussing gaster, glitch rooms ect.
Was fun times.
but the game fucking sucked, the writing was extremely cringe inducing, it had minimal effort put into it, the music was trash despite what people claimed and all told on top of all of that people are tired of you shilling this fucking piece of shit.
Undertale is an alright game. I admit I like the bullet hell/rpg mix. The story is okay too but it tries too hard to be deep. Trying to push "deep" themes with lame no-budget graphics turn off what the dev want to express, the game would have been better off all silly. Characters are fun but most of the stuff that comes out their mouths are memebait quips. Gonna get shit but Papyrus was annoying. The fans make this game look like mlp homostuck garbage. 5/10.
There's your reaction now fuck off to /vg/
I'm beginning to wonder just how stupid the average poster here is when people seriously think that something like Undertale is deep, or trying to be deep.
You guys realize that trying to justify why people don't like as simply "because it's popular", that that just makes people hate you fags even more right? People are allowed to not like something. Stop trying to shove your own reasons down their throats just to justify your own affection for the game.
>years from now, undertale will be shown in videogame design classes and called an "undisputable classic we should all learn from"
>most people will hold the opinion that undertale is as high up there as genuine classics like zelda, konkey dong, mario, etc
>mass market push for it to be commercialized like crazy, plushies, lunchboxes, so you never forget how great undertale is!
Undertale is a decent game that attracts the worst kind of people to it. You've got tumblrites, SJWs, furries, LGBT, hipsters, homestuck fans, etc. It doesn't help that the praise is completely overblown and it's become the most overrated game in recent memory. It also has NON-STOP threads when there is an incredibly active general. That is why there's constant shitposting in these threads and that is why you're a faggot.
>/v/ likes a game
>it blows up in popularity and the playerbase becomes so obnoxious it becomes embarrassing to talk about it anymore
why does it keep happening? Minecraft, FNaF, Undertale, every single time /v/ legitimately enjoys something it gets the attention of every autist in the world.
Did anyone else do the Genocide run first? I was already spoiled on a lot of stuff, so I wanted to fight Sans first. I also like how much the Genocide route fucks up the plot and music. Also, I really like this remix.
>Is anyone else immensely disappointed in the reaction 4chan had to this game
Yrs, I am very disappointed. Everyone here fucking loved it when it just released, and as soon as it got popular people started hating it instead. Fucknig hipsters.
>/v/ love the fuck out of it
No. It was it's own little thing with it's own fanbase before. Now it's being shoved down everyone's throats and is constantly being hailed as the second coming of christ. Even the people who liked the demo have become disenfranchised with how everything has played out. The game is alright. It's not at fault here. If you want someone to blame for how things have turned out, take a look at yourself and the rest of the fanbase.
Actually undertale threads were really good on the first few days of release, then got progressively worse as the game got progressively popular - at landslide pace. Go figure.
>muh favorite games are better for no reason other than that they're older
>I can't actually argue why it's bad, so I'll use standard /v/ meme speak
Poor arguing form, friend.
Because the fans on /v/ ruined it. I've played the game and it's ok, but it's not GOTY or the best game in 10 years. I hate undertalefags. Any criticism is reduced to 'you haven't played it' or 'this is trolling/bait'. You made such an echo chamber, the fanbase literally became the videogame version of the MLP fanbase. That's why people dismiss your game, because you're all obnoxious faggots that overpraise an ok game.
People can have their opinions, OP. Some of that is just the standard shitposters and contrarians doing what they do, but if you didn't like Undertale's humor or characters, there's really nothing there for you.
Undertale's most difficult "boss" is easier than a basic Touhou boss.
Undertale has no gameplay of any significance. There is no character customization, very low difficulty, and all encounters are 100% scripted (just like QTE games like The Order).
Basically, it's a visual novel. It is not a video game.
>The only games that can actually operate here without endless shitposting is Nintendo stuff
Are you retarded?
And besides, there's shitposting. And then there's fucking undertale shitposting. The last time I remember shitposting of this calibur was TLoU, and I don't think even that was as bad. The fanbase has a perfectly serviceable general they can fuck off to, but instead they come on here with endless threads and start making up excuses as to why people don't like what they like. Even then, a lot of the people who are fed up with this shit actually don't mind the game at all, or thought it was good. The fanbase is pure, unbridled cancer and they have nobody to blame but themselves for getting shit on, but they refuse to acknowledge it.
>The fanbase has a perfectly serviceable general they can fuck off to, but instead they come on here with endless threads and start making up excuses as to why people don't like what they like
This is more a problem with /v/ than anything else. If we truly stuck to the rules, all Nintendo discussion would be banned on site, due to /vg/ having a Nintendo general. Pokemon discussion would be perma-banned because they have their own board. Sony and MS discussion woud be banned because /vg/ has its own general. And so on.
Nobody uses those generals though, so it invites the shitposters to come in and spam he game as they please. If you want the UT fans to follow the rules, you have to enforce it on everyone. No special treatment.
Except the difference between shoving everything Nintendo's done into one general is light years away from placing a game that takes 4 hours to finish in one general. It was discussed to death within the first week, and there's nothing left. When left to their own devices, it just becomes endless furry porn or images from tumblr.
>Except the difference between shoving everything Nintendo's done into one general is light years away from placing a game that takes 4 hours to finish in one general
There is no difference. The rules clearly state "All continued discussion of a topic must be confined to its respective general".
It doesn't matter how much discussion can take place. The rules should be followed.
Hate the player, not the game.
It's a good game, but it has the most obnoxious fanbase. They all take it several steps further than overpraise, and jump right into ascribing social messages the game is making about society, regardless of if the game has actually attempted to send that message.
Literal idiots have stained the game's reputation.
It's /a/ syndrome. A bunch of faggots believe /a/'s dumb bullshit and take it upon themselves to "improve" /v/ by trying to "self-moderate." These people honestly think they're making the board better by rabidly shitposting everything they don't like.
>You can't encompass absolutely everything a company has done under a single umbrella that can only be discussed in one thread.
It's expected of Sony and Microsoft, which is why people constantly demand that they stay in their generals. I'm pretty sure big daddy Nintendo can handle it too.
I have rarely ever seen anyone actually complain about sony or microsoft discussion not being in their generals. Even if it was prolific, they don't have even close to the number of first party IPs that nintendo does. All three of those are still light years away from an incredibly small, simplistic, and short game getting endless threads.
>Even if it was prolific, they don't have even close to the number of first party IPs that nintendo does.
Their numbers pale in comparison to the billions of games on the PC, and yet people cry about how "those pkeks don't keep their discussion to /vg/!"
So your argument still falls flat.
>check undertale general because it was at the top page before i typed the name of the generals i was going to search
>I haven't seen anyone ever bitch about a pc game not being in the pc general either.
So you've never once heard /v/ call someone a "fitlhy valvedrone who should go back to /vg/"? Or a "mustard race who spends 2000 dollars on graphics"?
Every time people ruin those threads just to make them go back to /vg/. I should know, I've had multiple threads of mine saged and spammed until 404 because people hated the PC games I recommended. I didn't even try to list games like Undertale, but instead some more obscure ones that deserved more love.
But sadly it never works out.
Hold your tongue nave.
DA:I was THE most boring thing I've ever played. NOTHING about it represents the story telling, world, and gameplay of the first game.
The only thing more thrash was the second game.
Go to /r/Undertale of you want to stroke your cock to this shit. It doesn't belong here anymore. Also, there's nothing left to discuss anymore, if you missed all the initial threads that's your fault.
>Or a "mustard race who spends 2000 dollars on graphics
I hear this one a lot, but if it's a specific game and not just talking about pc or consoles themselves then I don't recall any serious /vg/ related shitposting. Sorry your threads have to deal with that though.
Ok, I'm going to give this game a chance. ONE chance. The moment I see any kind of SJW purple hair muh fee fees I'm a 90s kid look at me I'm so cool videgames amirite faggotry I swear I'm refunding this motherfucker.
Sorry, the fanbase has crushed any hopes of that ever happening. I thought the game was alright and did some neat things, but holy shit, the fanbase is just too much. I recommend looking for discussion elsewhere.
Also, if you actually want your thread to be taken somewhat sincerely and not just be shitposted straight away, I recommend you don't call the people who have a problem with the undertale fanbase and the endless threads it spawns underage kids. Might help.
I think you're giving them a bit too much credit. These people watch YouTubers play the game.
Keep in mind, the game is still not a million seller.
I liked the game but didn't think it's revolutionary. There's no way to discuss the game properly, /v/ can only shitpost about it and the fanbase is autistic.
My favorite moment was when the game
acknowledged my savescumming.
Witcher 3 got shitposted for downgrades before launch, and by butthurt bloodbornefags for winning gotys. Witcher 1 and 2 had great discussion, but thats before it got popular.
I've seen some godawful, extremely highly rated reviews on steam and metacritic that make this image look completely reasonable. Reviews that openly state undertale is beyond perfection, a middle finger to every other game in existence, "if you don't like it, you have a soul", etc.
I didn't get past the intro. Are they so pathetically disabled in their ability to assert their identity without remorse or complexes that they cannot commit to making a male or female protagonist? Did they have to make it purposfully ambiguous? Was giving me a choice of gender forcing me to conform to the patriarcal categorizations too much?
Jesus christ I hate this motherfucking society.
Am I one of what? Not exactly doing anything any favors by trying to imply I'm just some anti-undertale shitposter.
I recommend you take a long step back and try and think about why undertale and it's fans are getting the amount of shit that it is. But if you arrive at the conclusion that it's just because it's popular, then you are part of the problem.
I dont want to do any favors.
But you are one of those shitposting spergs who clearly cannot stand undertale threads but still has to enter them.
I have seen how the hate in these threads evolved.
It was literally because the game got too popular.
Shitposters found out that people truly like the game so they started spamming every thread.
YOU are the problem. You are the idiot who cant ignore threads about topics you dont care about.
Is it so hard to hide or filter Undertale?
You are literally upset about people discussing games on /v/.
>Undertale bronies are now this upset and feel like being triggered by their "enemies"
I asserted that the ones who started this mess was the fanbase, that's it. I wasn't saying the shitposters on the other side are any better. I also recommended that the OP should look for discussion elsewhere because these threads are garbage as a result and that they shouldn't call people underage kids because that's just asking for it.
Yet here you are pulling shit out of nowhere.
It isn't horrible but it isn't great, and the fanbase (like nearly all fanbases) is completely insufferable. It's hard to genuinely have a discussion when people are either circlejerking or shitposting.
> asserted that the ones who started this mess was the fanbase
And thats bullshit.
Its people who cant stop talking about the fanbase.
Look at ANY Undertale thread and you will always find more shitposting than fanboys that do something cringeworthy.
>Many, many reasons. All of which are why these threads are shitposted to hell and back.
That's funny, because the main reason is you forced them into a damn leper colony. /vg/ is a prison sentence.
Burch says its a good game therefore its a good game
deal with it
I'm not talking about just /v/, I'm talking about the fanbase as a whole. People aren't going to just let things slide and pretend it doesn't exist just because it wasn't a part of /v/.s
fixed communities inevitably side towards faggotry
/vg/ is automatically isolating and community isolation is how you breed extreme forms of things.
So naturally everything on /vg/ becoomes weird and odd
And why is that? Why can't you have decent discussion on /vg/ instead of the endless furposting and tumblr images? That's not the fault of the board itself, but those who use it.
>I'm talking about the fanbase as a whole.
Who cares about that?
Are you a fifteen year old girl?
Do you actively seek out places like Tumblr only to get triggered by the shit thats going on there?
/v/ has decided they don't like this game, so any threads about it get
downvotedshitposted until they return to their subredditgeneral.
It's amazing how little /v/ understands this. They just point to a general and say "It's a good thing we don't let those faggots here" when sequestering them is what led to their insanity.
Where do you think you are
This is 4chan where we gossip shit and get offended by everything different from our own worldview
Go back to reddit redditfag
No, I tend to side with that notion because of the shit I'm dealing with right now. For someone who was so moved about a game that promotes kindness and helping others, you sure are doing a good job of it.
You know, I wish I didnt have to read about tumblr and reddit all day on 4chan.
If I wanted to go there I wouldnt be here.
Now you got people who clearly go there bringing their faggotry over here and then shit up threads that talk about games.
samething happened to furfags, samething happened to ponyfags.
Every single isolated community inevitably breeds extremism.
Its the same reason why every single reddit board is just a circlejerk.
Lurk vs Post rate is always favored vastly to lurking. So the vocal minority has large control over the content. When the Lurkers feel this is not what they like, they leave. But since a small percent of lurkers convert to posters, this means that the community will slowly degrade into only those who agree with the point.
Then they will distill that faggotry into intense faggotry
I dont believe you. You are talking about "letting things slide" here, as if you were part of some sort of fucking fanbase police.
Also neutral ending best. The happy ending shit was too much.
It hasnt ALWAYS been like that.
/v/ is a shit board with absolute terible excuses for human beings who traet video games more as a social accessory than an actual medium of entertainment. This board is good for nothing else than trolling and shitposting and if you honestly come here, in 2016, expecting any decent discussion, you deserve to be castrated for being this goddamn stupid and naive.
You want discussion? Ok then, it was an enjoyable came with funny charters, so it held up being entertaining for all 3 runs, especially since the game as a whole is super short. The music was the best part, and the inconsistent sprite work was trash tastic.
The hate it gets is a bit irrational, but not as much as the unwarranted praise it gets as a game. Like seriously, the game is no where near as good as what the the public's reception makes it out to be. It's a thoroughly 7/10 game.
Play it if you can and want to, but you're not missing much.
>You are talking about "letting things slide" here, as if you were part of some sort of fucking fanbase police
Where is that even coming from? All I was trying to do was trying to explain why things turned out this way and to give some advice to the OP.
>Where is that even coming from?
>People aren't going to just let things slide and pretend it doesn't exist just because it wasn't a part of /v/.
And you're still full of shit.
Pretty much this.
Thing is, a lot of retards think their opinions are fact.
Coincidentally, these retards' argument is "stop liking things I don't like".
It's constant shitflinging from both sides. Shouldn't we have a containment board for unironic shitposters?
His backstory of
Being a ghost wanting to be a human kinda feels like a trans metaphor. Not feeling right in his own body, Getting that new body that's just a mere imitation of the real thing but it's close enough and he feels truly happy with his new form
But hes just supposed to be a glam rock style character, Tumblr freaks the fuck out whenever something even THINKS about referencing trans people.
>With 100% Freedom and 100% Privacy.
not anymore faggot, CISPA is law now.
>another 7chan wanna be
>not going to endchan
Thanks for proving my "social accessory" point. Nobody here actually gives a shit about video games. You pick one that fits the social image you want to associate yourself with and you go on talking about how great it is and how everyone who dislikes it is gay and retarded. Then you pick a bunch of games you want to associate people you don't like with, and you shit on those games by shitting on the people that like them, instead of actually forming any concise opinion based on the games themselves.
This is your average post-'95 millennial.
I don't even like the game, But i do like how papyrus was handled. He was a risky character, He could have been extremely annoying for some people
as in meSo toby just threw him into the phone for the rest of the game after his fight. For people who dislike him, They can ignore him and not have to see him except for a few parts, And people who really like him get to have him talk in nearly every room.
>Reasonable opinions on /v/ scare me so I'm going to just say they're a troll
Not even that guy, but the fuck is wrong with you
>pic related - you
Do you even understand what I was trying to say there? Why are you assuming I'm a part of it just for pointing out that it doesn't matter whether or not it happens on /v/? Not once have I insulted you, undertale, or even really the fanbase, yet you're throwing out insults and are adamant that because I don't side with the fanbase, that I'm trying to police it and am against what it represents.
What the hell. Again, it is pretty funny to me considering the game in question.
Not it's just absolute retards who can\t greast the idea of fabulous. Nigga is pretty much a side character straight out of JJBA and you actually have people bitch about how it's tumblr 'n' shit. I don't think there's a single board more pleb than /v/ at this point.
You should have gotten here earlier, then. There were some genuinely good threads the first couple weeks after the game came out, but as the LPers got to it and the game got more popular, the hipsters began to come out and shitpost because they think /v/ is reserved for talking about games that have sold less than 1000 copies. That and because it's just already been discussed to hell and back, so there will be people telling you to fuck off to /vg/, where it's basically just a bunch of tripfags going "I want to fuck x!"
All of this has gotten so bad that 9 times out of 10 people make threads to complain about people never shutting up about Undertale, even though the people wanting to genuinely discuss it have moved on. Pic related.
You were never in his room. Here's an actual line from one of his diaries when Alphys shows him the robot body she's working on
>with a body like that, I can feel more like "myself"
It doesn't really have good reply value. Pacifist is easily the most fleshed out route. Neutral is a complete waste of time, and genocide is a boring grindfest for just two extra boss fights.
>thinks quake is actually better
Just fuck off already you goddamn retard. Go buy Reflex like the cock snorting blind nostalgiababby that you are. You wouldn't know a good arena shooter if it cockslapped you across the face anyway.
>omg im such a harcore gaymur check my de-frag trick jumping vibeo guyse
Just fuck off already
Have you ever noticed how, in a typical RPG (and, now that I think about it, most games in general) battles don’t really mean anything? How many times have you defeated a miniboss, only to have it stand back up and laugh at you, saying “I have underestimated you! You are a worthy opponent! This is not the end! We shall meet again!” and make a getaway? Think about it. How many times do you beat up Balrog in Cave Story only to have him fly away without a scratch? How is Black Knight able to keep running away after Shovel Knight stabs the hell out of him? How come you black out if you lose a Pokémon battle, but none of the other trainers do? And how does the big bad villain always seem to get away, even if their HP hits zero, so they can reappear in the sequel?
Undertale asks the question, “What if defeating an enemy in battle always means that they die?”
This might seem quite inconsequential in random encounters, but Undertale will also pit you against several main characters. If you defeat a main character in battle, they’re dead for good, and the whole story changes to reflect it. Heavy stuff.
How could you.
You double nigger.
You know what makes me reject it? It's an rpg with bullet hell elements that nobody ever could tell me why they love it so much. I hate bullet hell games and i hate retro pixel shit, that is not what we developed better and better tech for. Tell me why it's so good, convince me and i MIGHT pick it up at the summer sale when it's 99 cent or something
...But thankfully, as the game advertises, you don’t actually have to kill anyone! The game offers a second option to get out of battles: talking the enemy out of fighting. This involves solving a simple puzzle, almost always involving the “Act” menu in battle. The puzzle changes depending on what kind of enemy you’re fighting; sometimes you’ll just need to give them a compliment, other times you’ll need to survive several of their attacks, and so on. Once they’re not emotionally invested in the battle anymore, you can “spare” them, and the battle ends. You won’t get any EXP for it, but you’ll still get gold. It’s a very unique fighting mechanic!
I admit, after my first playthrough of the game, I was disappointed in the story’s presentation. I thought that both the very beginning and the final area of the game were fantastic, dripping with shocking emotional dilemmas, but the middle 80% of the game’s content seemed like it relied too much on oddball humor and not much else. The game hilariously plays with expectations and has no shortage of genuinely witty satire of its genre, and I found myself amused by nearly all of it, but after the first two hours as I was walking across long linear worlds and listening to dozens of characters try to tell me jokes, I started to wonder where the emotional gravity had gone. “Why is this game making me laugh, when I thought it was supposed to make me cry?” I asked myself. “Where are the feelings? After such an excellent and powerful prologue, why is the game taking so long to show me more?”
Later that night, as I was lying awake in bed, the answer hit me: the game was quirky and lighthearted because I was sparing everyone’s life. I wasn’t playing as a murderer. If you want this game to have drama, you have to cause it. And I think that’s where all the hype is coming from, all the talk about player choice. This is a game about being a tree-hugging pacifist, or a murderous psychopath who kills anyone who gets in the way, or anything in between. You only need to live with whomever you decide to be, because the game won’t let you ignore what you have done.
Though it isn’t the most visually impressive game, and the stage design isn’t always the best, Undertale has left me feeling that I have just witnessed a work of art. It tried some new and ambitious things and isn’t ashamed of what it wanted to be. It's about 6 hours long; I’d recommend anyone to play it at least twice, just to be able to say that they've made their own choices and seen what the game has to offer. It’s hard to imagine that anyone would regret the experience.
I don't think so. From what I can tell, the only mention of Mettaton before he got a robot body is in his diaries. I can honestly see how people believe Mettaton is like an allegory for transsexuality, but Toby doesn't seem like the kind of guy to put shit like that in the game.
>Okay Charafags I'm ready to admit that if everybody deserves forgiveness and redemption then MAYBE Chara does, but only if you never do genocide with her / also first for goatdad
Which gender (or lack thereof) do you underfans identify as?
If you wanted to discuss the game, you should've been here at any time between September and late October. A huge majority of people who enjoyed the game are already tired of talking about it. The game is short, even if we were to do multiple runs, and we've discovered as many secrets as we can within the first month. There just isn't much to talk about anymore. Shitposting is basically what keeps Undertale threads alive at this point.
All the friend characters are only relevant in their own part of the game and then they take a seat back.
Happens with Toriel, Papyrus, Undyne and that faggot lizard.
Its like different acts divided into different areas. Ruins, Snowdin, Waterfall and Hotland, and then the Core leads up to the finale.
Core sucked though.Felt unfinished.
>but Toby doesn't seem like the kind of guy to put shit like that in the game
He does to me, especially considering there's several instances of gay content. A very girly character getting a new "male" body built just for them seems pretty clear in what it's trying to say.
Considering when someone asked him in an interview about Frisk's gender not being stated and something about the role of androgyny or something like that, he skipped the question because he thought it was stupid.
>Just got to the desert
>Really like it
Am I not allowed to praise it until after I'm finished? It's like Mother 3 or Stalker where you get a hour in and think 'this is gonna be good.'
I tried to like the game, but nearly every character talks a Twitter post and the constant barrage of on-the-nose references to other games just made me wish I was playing one of those games instead. I feel it really says something about how a game is trying to put itself across when even the main character's sprite is just a cross between a Mother protagonist and Madotsuki.
All I can say is sorry. The amount of shitposting in any Undertale threads is just too much. Someone will always respond, and the thread will usually start to revolve around the shitposting rather than the actual game.
Get some of your real life friends to play the game and talk to them about it or something, or just try as hard as possible to tune out the shitposting and have what little discussion you can have in the threads, like what some people try to do.
I knew the quality of the Undertale threads would fall. The fact that archive.moe died on us made me glad that I actually saved some threads onto my hard drive.
Poison goes where poison is welcome.
If a fanbase is terrible, the subject that the fanbase focuses on is likely terrible too
Make an OP that isn't shit or inflammatory in anyway. Don't mention shitposting at all and that you just want to discuss a few things. Alternatively, as shit as the general is, I'm sure you can find people who are willing to actually discuss the game in between all the cringe there.
Where's her pepsi
Sure, I'm going to see if I can get some up on Dropbox or Mega. Hopefully the thread will be alive by the time I get back.
After doing a Pacifist and a Genocider run, I realized that Unertale has a really innocent point of view regarding morality.
Honestly, that's probably the biggest problem that I have with the game (although the pacing of the story is bad, and the gameplay is pretty mediocre IMO). Undertale is really biased when it comes to morality, and the game even tries to punish you for being an ass in your past playthrough.
Not the first guy who answered you but here.
There are people who gave it an honest try and though it was shit, me included. Please don't act like almost everyone who hates it is just a shitposter.
Perfect post that should have ended the thread.
>Come on man, you've been on /vg/ before, you know how shitty it is for any type of real discussion.
Welcome to your favorite game's fanbase. Its not our fault its filled with shit
>but every general is shit!
No it isn't.
I dont think it does.
When you look at the neutral playthrough then the game isnt being a dick to you.
And neutral feels like the most realistic ending for someone who isnt fully aware of his time resetting powers.
Think about it. On neutral you can pretty much kill everything that is in your way, all the monsters that try to hurt and kill you, and you still get a basic ending where you get to go home and everything is kinda alright. Things are barely worse at the very least.
Some characters might end up hating you, but thats natural considering that you killed some of their friends and family, but the situation is the same.
Its truly neutral.
Its only on Genocide where things get worse for you, but that also requires you to actively seek out every single monster in every area and kill them.
Why would you do that? The monsters are behind the barrier anyways. Just move on and get your ass home.
And when it comes to the true pacifist thing its also kinda justified.
Think about it. If you play the game "naturally" by applying self defense and letting those that are harmless to you alive you get the neutral ending. Then the flower cunt tells you that you could reset and try again without killing everybody.
The game acknowledges that you have the power to actually get a happy ending for everybody, like Bill Murray does in Ground Hog day, so why wouldnt you? Just to spite the monsters who originally attacked you?
I mean sure, you could do that. Then the game ends at the neutral end for you and you can just move on.
Talk to Napstablook after beating Asriel. He mentions a force, like a strange light, taking everyone away. It knocks on his door, but he just closed the blinds and pretended not to be home.
Napstablook is the only monster that didn't get sucked into Asriel.
I can't comment on the Neutral route because I haven't done a neutral route (although it sounds better than the Hollywood-perfect pacifist and the you're-an-asshole Genocide).
Eh, I can understand that some monsters are going to hate you (even some of the ones that try to kill you), but the game really shoves the fact that you're (or were) an asshole onto your face. That's a mistake if you're going to design a bad ending IMO.
For example, to mention some ending in which you royally fuck up, let's look at the Accomplice ending in Persona 4;
You literally help Adachi, and never tell the IT that he's in fact the killer; however, the game never goes out of its way to tell you that you're an idiot for doing that.
And then there are endings like the White ending in SMT IV, in which you really do fuck up, and yet the game never tries to make you feel like shit for doing it. The Genocide route is obviously the bad route in this game, but UT tries to hide that in a weak attempt to show that it has an unbiased morality system, but then it starts to show how much the other characters hate you.
>but then it starts to show how much the other characters hate you
Well no shit they'll hate you. You're a genocidal fucking psychopath slaughtering everything in and out of your way. The fuck kind of reaction did you expect?
hussie's aware of the fucking abomination he's spawned and hates it so it makes some sense
>That's a mistake if you're going to design a bad ending IMO.
I dont think thats an issue if you really are going full hitler.
And you are in Genocide.
You cant really justify those actions in that run, outside of treating it like a game (which it is), but even in that scenario its clear that the NPCs wouldnt be your biggest fans.
Its totally fine to show that characters cant stand you for acting like this.
If you havent seen the neutral ending then you should check it out on the wiki or something. There's like 10 or more variations depending on what characters you killed and which ones you left alive.
It is by far the most believable and logical ending if it wasnt for the fact that the game acknowledges that you do have those saving powers.
If it wasnt for those powers going full pacifist would make little sense.
Nobody is THAT nice when you dont realize that your life isnt actually on the line.
Also accomplice ending in Persona4 made absolutely no sense and was pretty shit.
I was expecting that, the problem is that the fact that the game always tries to show you how much they hate is probably going to turn off some people from trying the Genocide route.
At that point the game should just flat-out say that Genocide IS the bad ending and stop beating around the bush about it.
Even if I hate the way in which the routes work in the game, I'm still a bit surprised about how ambitious it is about it.
Undertale is just a mediocre attempt at re-making Mother for low attention span, underage and unintelligent American audiences. They piled in internet memes, shipping garbage and Homestuck music because otherwise people without 3-digit IQs could not enjoy it. They also decided not to put any effort into the graphics because why would they? This is an indie game, it doesn't have to try or actually be any good.
Here's the earliest thread I have, made the night the game came out. It's the first time I've uploaded something onto mega so that's why it took me a while.
Lemme know how you think, and if it even works at all. I already know there's a shit ton of problems going on such as being unable to click the spoiler images, or jump to post numbers with a click, but this is all I can do.
>Dogs and anime are not memes.
Yeah, they are. So is spaghetti, skeleton puns and pretty much everything else an internet-gremlin would recognize and have a knee-jerk "I must laugh at this, I have seen it referenced elsewhere" reaction to. Go peel bacon off your back.
I still think that that whole plot point IS what essentially renders all the non-Pacifist routes useless/shitty. I seriously wouldn't have a problem with the way in which this game handles the routes if the way in which you acted during a playthrough didn't affect the way in which characters treat you in the next playthrough.
And to make matters worse, I think that the gameplay is actually better in Genocide.
Seeing how characters react to you is indeed pretty interesting, but c'mon.
I'm so tired of you fags making undermeme threads every fucking minute of every fucking day
The game is just okay, but you retard newfags from tumblr and shit gotta come here and fucking spam this gay ass game every fucking day im so fucking tired of having to hide these fucking shit threads
Well shit. Guess my neighbour's retriever is now a meme, and the episode of Barakamon I watched today was actually just me being an epic memester. And that fake skeleton in my doctor's office? Man, what a meme spewing cunt.
Oh no wait, you are absolutely retarded.
Not even him, but
Why. "Doge" or "Reaction Animals" are memes. Dogs are not.
Desu isn't there, smug anime face isn't there.
Again, no. "2spoopy" and "doot-doot" never appear.
That's a greentext type. Even then, it's spaghetti and pockets.
I think the biggest problem is that Undertale panders to tumblr users and the game actually fucking suck.
This is not a negative comment OP but you should actually go to tumblr if you wanna discuss this tumblr game
>The modern apes hunt feels to survive the winter
Here's your old 4chan archives.
Here's your den for shitposters.
The insistence that Undertale is a meme or is filled with memes has become a meme itself. I
Video games are holding evolution back, they keep feeding our primitive emotions like fear, anger and sorrow to keep us from adapting more parts of our brain to rational and logical thinking. The ever increasing cases of autism are a definitive result of this mutation.