>>324210419 >Yukari is bad meme Yukari is good because of how realistic she is. Eveyrone else is a walking trait compared to her. Plus she's hot as fuck and willing to fuck over the whole universe to see her husbando again.
>>324210552 Marie's only second worst Fuck Yukari, she literally has zero redeeming characteristics. She's an outright bitch that constantly drags the team down with her bullshit. She's not even qt like Marie.
>>324210701 Being realistic doesn't mean she's not a bitch. Yuzu did the realistic thing right, not Yukari.
Goddamnit, Minato only gets fucked. First he gets into a party of irresponsible jackasses, is forced to make a contract with death itself, all the girls he meets either have daddy issues or are Yuko (in which he's forcefully taken from her, leaving her destined to become a whore as a single-mother), has his family killed and becomes a fucking santient seal until the end of time.
>Make one minor little fuck up and you're forced into some small shithole where you're not respected >You put some gas into your car and shake hands with some friendly gas station attendent >Discover you can put your hand through a tv and it's like wow what the fuck >See some hot chick every day and she doesn't even notice you and eventually you get cucked out of a relationship with her >Calmly ask her what's going on >She ignores you and you lose your mind >The next few weeks you meet a hot 17 year old school girl and she was talking to the same dude who cucked you >Accidentally let your emotions get to you >Now you're revered and treated like a killer when you were just taking out some gold digging bitches >Now you're in prison and the only highlight of your life is your old police partner giving you some cheap cabbage
>>324214236 I don't know. He's a really gray character. He's not straight up evil. It's hard to explain but I feel like most of what he did was because of just a general evolution of everything that happened to him. I don't think he's a bad person I think he's a broken person.
It's like I have a hard time calling him a piece of shit, basically.
>>324214434 >It's like I have a hard time calling him a piece of shit, basically. Why? He killed people without remorse because they were being mean to him all because he didn't get what he wanted, and instead of dealing with this shit like an adult he throws a hissy fit.
>>324214434 Adachi fucked up, and all the terrible things that happened in Inaba are his fault. Ultimately, you could blame Izanami but things only happened the way they did because of the kind of person Adachi was.
The truth of the matter is that he's just a reversal of Yu. Yu got his strength from the people around him, while Adachi drew himself away from the people around them, and actively blamed them for his own problems.
>>324215137 Exactly. I'm not asking for characters to start dropping dead, but you know when your dealing with gods tragedy seems natural. P4 had it close with Nanako but then shit writing happened. Hell when you look at a lot of the ideas for P4 it's really hard to understand how we ended up with the game we got.
>>324214434 >be a pissy little manchild because life deals you cards that you don't want >they aren't even bad cards, they're just cards that you don't want >get an amazing power from shaking someone's hand >use that power to kill two women who don't want to have sex with you and then play games with some teenagers
adachi did literally everything wrong and if you disagree you're a friendless manchild just like him
Is there a way to get PS2 classics on PS3 to not look like complete ass? I bought P4 in the sale cuz I was too lazy to rig up my PS2, but I kinda regret it now cuz playing it with component on my old EDTV at my mom's blows this the fuck out.
>>324216024 I love me some Maya Amano. Literally the only Persona girl mature enough to spend your life with. >ywn talk with Mr. Bunbun about your hard day, then spend the night with Maya talking about the brighter side of life
>>324216797 >He's a broken man dealt a bad card and he just lost it. Yeah, we get that, but he's in the wrong the whole way. Yeah, life gives you a shit card, you don't go murdering people with your supernatural powers just to get revenge, you deal with that shit like an adult and move on. Taking your frustrations out on others is the worst thing to do.
>>324216797 >Listen guys when you grow up a little bit Oh my, aren't you cute?
Literally everything that happened to him was his own fault, and as >>324215606 has said, the cards he got weren't even that bad. He was just throwing a hissy fit because he wasn't handed exactly what he wanted to have, and rarely anyone is.
>>324217034 I'm not going to lie when I played Persona 4 when it came out Adachi really inspired me and shaped me as a man. A lot of my decisions in life I had that one like about "magic ticket called talent" ring in my head. It inspired me to further my life. To not let myself become a broken man. It happened, but at least I tried.
I'm not justifying his actions. I'm just saying he's not exactly wrong about his rants.
>>324217403 It's not that, mate, it's just that i could have been one of those old man.
When you get older there are some perks, like those types of girls, and instead of hating them, you embrace them and give them a good dicking and a slap in the butt.
This kind of woman was always there, but nowadays is pretty much the most common type of woman, which is bad. I've settled down already, mate, had my lady, she died of cancer. Nowadays getting a piece of young ass like Lisa, is a solace in the shitstorm i was caught in.
I may be an old geezer, but at least i've met a nice girl once and lived a fullfilling life, a thing, that unhapilly many of you anons will not have because of conditions out of our controls.
>>324216797 >wanted to make relationships with women the wrong way and expected them to roll with it >instead of talking it out like a normal person, proceeded to commit what was basically murder and throws them into the TV >did the same to a student who found the body purely for fun >couldn't do his job properly, as such got demoted, hated the higher ups for it anyway >expected to have what he wanted handed to him on a silver platter >he could have gotten away with it all too because of the lack of evidence, but being the autistic manchild he is, proceeded to throw a tantrum and reveal himself anyway >implying any of this was a dealing of a bad card
everything that happened to him was his own fault for being an entitled manchild
>>324217604 No matter how hard you work in something if you weren't born with it as an adept skill you won't make it. Anyone can put some pixels together and make "art" but not everyone can become a pixel artist no matter how hard you try
Anyone can weld some metal together but not everyone is a welder. You're born with what you got. The fact is most people are talentless unhappy hacks like Adachi.
You can slap some notes together and call it a song but that doesn't mean you can write music. You can learn how to play the piano but it doesn't mean you'lll be a piaonists. You can cook some means but doesn't mean you're a chef.
Not anyone can do anything they set their minds to something and actually achieve it. Persona 4 is probably one of the more mature JRPGS simply because it sets this message well. Chie wants to be a cop but she fails miserably at it and just becomes a boring housewife. Yukiko dreams of a bigger life but eventually realizes the fact she's tied to her inn. Teddy tries hard to discover who he is but in reality he's just a shadow. Nothing more. Nothing less.
In fact the only characters that thrived were Kanji and the Nurse. Everyone else failed.
Take it from me. Adachi may have been a whiny piece of shit who went way to fucking far -- and he is getting properly punished for it -- the fact is he was fucking right. Not about the murders but about life.
>>324218323 >Anyone can weld some metal together but not everyone is a welder. You're born with what you got. The fact is most people are talentless unhappy hacks like Adachi. >people can't learn a trade Oh fuck off.
>>324218745 Not that anon, but it's true. You can learn to do something but that doesn't make you a master at it. Millions upon millions of people know how to play guitar, but there's only one Hendrix.
Playing Persona 4 for the first time on Very Hard. I'm about 6 hours in and I'm past the first boss. Should I restart on a lower difficulty while I have the chance or should I stop being a pussy and try to beat the game for the first time on very hard?
>>324219776 Playing on very hard was a dumb move if you've never played a game in the series before, but there is a big difficulty spike in the early stages of the game so maybe you'll be okay if you can get through that part.
>>324219012 Who the fuck says you need to be a master to become something? Not everyone is a welder because not everyone wants to be one, even people with talent often waste it because it's not something they're interested in and people with no talent make their way into whatever business they want to get into. Not everyone is a Hendrix but that doesn't stop them from playing guitar and being decent at it, there are tons of musicans who aren't on that level, there are tons of singers who are shit at singing but find a way to weasel their way into fame.
>>324219776 the game is just hard in the beginning because you have shit tier personas and shit tier links.
After you get some social links up and your personas actually have useful shit, it gets ridiculously easy.
Of course the hard part is you'll take more time doing dungeons, eating up S.Links time...if you can use SP regen (Invigorate) and grind it out and finish dungeons in 1-2 days for the first 2 dungeons you'll be fine
>>324219012 millions and millions of people have 'made it' and are successful guitarists without being one of the pioneering masters of their craft. should hendrix have just said 'oh well, i won't be reinhardt so what's the point'
being successful and famous (to continue with the musical allegory) is more a product of being lucky, persistent or connected (or all 3) anyway
>people are unironically projecting their own sad, friendless, asocial lives to justify adachi
Adachi was "bored" because he got stationed in bumfuck nowhere and once he found out he could kill people due to his autism and boredom, he started killing.
He isn't anywhere near being in the right. The only reason you think he even remotely "did nothing wrong" or "had a hard life" is because you bought into his well-spoken platitudes. This is exactly what psychopaths do, they try to spin words and lies to justify their loose grip on reality.
It's as simple as this: He was nice to a girl and expected sex. She rejected him, he got mad, he killed her. Then he began killing people based solely on his own narrow-minded judgments simply because he could, and not get caught.
Anyone who ISN'T retarded knows that he's just talking fancy shit to try and excuse his criminal behavior. It doesn't even matter who the "heroes" are, the only point that matters is that he knows he is in the wrong which is why he spends so long trying to justify it. The IT members are only placeholders, he's just mad that they are basically the living visage of his jealousy that come to put an end to him.
Adachi is nothing more than an entitled loser who's mad that he hasn't handed what he wants, but maybe that's why you retards are buying into his bullshit.
>>324213976 Adachi is probably the most boring character in Persona especially considering he is one of the final bosses/culprit. At the end it is easy to guess hes the criminal because hes the only one with a sprite who hasn't mattered the entire game.
>>324221034 >He was nice to a girl and expected sex. He was never nice to either Mayumi or Saki. He came up to Mayumi, called her a bitch for fucking a married man and accidentaly threw her into the TV. With Saki he saw her talking with Namatame, got pissed and just killed her. >Then he began killing people He only killed one person after Mayumi.
>>324221034 >He was nice to a girl Not even honestly, he just starts asking them some creeper shit while they're already dealing with a heavy situation. Saki is literally cornered in a closed room even
He was a licensed detective, working hard to pass the exams to work as a police officer, but then he fucked it up and got sent away. He tried to make friends in Inaba but people kept judging him. He had Dojima as a partner, who could've straightened him out, but then he keeps fucking up so he gets yelled at.
The dude was just having a crappy time being an adult.
>>324223506 >working hard to pass the exams to work as a police officer, only to get a gun, he says so himself >He tried to make friends in Inaba he never tried, he actively rejected everyone who tried to reach out to him >people kept judging him for what, being a cop? >but then he keeps fucking up he keeps fucking around at Junes so he won't have to work
>>324223789 At a certain level of fuck-up-ness, you'd also start to feel that it's better to not even try just so you won't make things worst for everyone. Surely you felt that before. He goes to Junes to hide from Dojima, since he doesn't want to get yelled at.
>>324224061 Did you even talk to the NPCs in inaba? They bad mouth the cops in public. Yosuke and Kanji even say it out loud that the cops are useless and they'd have to do it themselves as oppose to telling the cops about the TV world.
>>324224118 Yu and Yosuke also got transferred to the ass end of nowhere
>Yukari is the closest you can get to normal but is extremely hard to read and flip floppy at times, and a relationship with her ends up a guessing game of which decision won't piss her off >Fuuka is an absolute social retard and your relationship will wither and die when it comes to even slight intimacy, that is if you don't get frustrated with her hesitation first. >Mitsuru thinks she's better than you by default and you have about a week to prove you're worth her time before you get friendzoned forever, probably wouldn't fuck you for months >Aigis is a literal robot and no amount of love will change the fact that a physical relationship is damn near impossible >Chie is the most likely to put you in the friend zone while going off to ride the cock carousel, due to being more like one of the guys than a traditional female in the setting. >Yukiko is Mitsuru Jr. in that if you don't earn her respect IMMEDIATELY or do anything to cause her to lose it, you can kiss a relationship goodbye. >Rise is experienced and knows how to sustain a relationship, but no amount of work can change the fact that her career and the distance will take over and nip shit in the bud. >Naoto is struggling with even being seen as a female and your relationship will eventually fail if you even slightly try to drag gender roles into the equation, but if you don't, expect heavy resistance
>>324224703 >Did you even talk to the NPCs in inaba? Of course, they are the best characters. They do that rarely and only in the beginning. After that they stop caring and talk about other stuff. >Yu and Yosuke also got transferred to the ass end of nowhere Yeah, Yosuke because his father was promoted to a manager of one Wal-Mart, Yu becasue his parents went overseas to work and he has a fmaily there. That's literally nothing like Adachi's case.
>>324224703 >He goes to Junes to hide from Dojima, since he doesn't want to get yelled at.
He's getting yelled at for not doing his fucking job. Yknow as a fucking cop.
Yosuke and Kanji's conversation was more or less directed at Adachi who as already discussed is both lazy and incompetent and never even begins to think about trying to improve himself till he gets caught
They're resonably educated guesses, anon. Mitsuru comes across as the type of girl who knows her way around a dick (in multiple holes, at that) while Chie already had a long term boyfriend before the game began.
Not to mention she's got the personality to get on the cock carousel.
>>324225087 point I was trying to make was that ass end of nowhere couldn't have been that bad. Sure Adachi fucked up, but if Junes found the place suitable to gentrify, the town probably had potential.
>>324225130 Well we get the chicken and the egg here, did he stop working because people didn't respect him, or did people stop respecting him because they don't like cops... My money is on the former because there were other cops they could have gone too...like your uncle...
>>324226831 >point I was trying to make was that ass end of nowhere couldn't have been that bad Your point makes no fucking sense still. Yu's situation had nothing to do with the town being backwater or not, Junes isn't some high brand store, it's pretty much a Walmart, building one only killed the local market and accomplished nothing else. It's not that they thought it has potential but that three was nothing else so might as well build one.
>>324217219 But you do understand where he is coming from yes? Sure his cards might not be that bad but life is inherently unfair. You can not deny that fact. Someone who is born as a kid from rich parents will have all the resources to become succesful as well. Some poorfag, not as much.
But what about all the other things that determine your success. You can't choose your circumstances you are born in. You can't choose the body you are born in, whether it's a healthy normal body or some fucked up disabled one, You also can't choose whether you are hit with cancer or some other disease can you? Or what resources (money, social contacts) you will be able to use to get yourself higher on the social ladder. Or if some natural disaster hits your place, taking away everything you have or some drunk dude hits you with a car, paralysing you for life.
Seriously anon, just be happy you don't know the true meaning of what Adachi meant. Life is inherently unfair and I just hope for you you will never have to learn it the hard way.
>>324228483 inaba is a potentially profitable area for junes because it's a midsized town that's largely unexploited by any other chain stores. they can undercut any local business because of how costs are distributed in a national scale company and they face no direct competition from anyone with similar resources. in short it's profitable because it's a backwater (a backwater by the standards of a tiny heavily urbanized island nation mind you), not despite it
>>324228339 But do you even understand what you are saying? If his cards are decent, his life isn't inheritely unfair. Rich kids are a minority, there is nothing unfair in being dealt decent cards.You can complain that you didn't get to be the minority, but you are still bitching that you are in the same situation as most people around you. He had a stable job, a home, people who cared about him. Considering the fact that he barely put any effort into anything after he moved to Inaba, that's pretty fucking good, especially since "he isn't good at anything" and it's Japan we're talking about.
>>324229509 Good God anon, it isn't about the person Adachi but the idea he was conveying. He might be a utter piece of shit but his words still held true.
His 'hissy fit' might have been used by him as some retarded excuse but it holds true. If you aren't born under that lucky star you will never become one of the ones history deemed as succesful.
Talent and Luck are really deciding in how far you come. Whether you use it or not is your own decision but there is no way you can believe everyone is given equal opportunity to become what they want.
Adachi could've easily been a somebody, he was a talented guy who could potentially even have handled having a persona, but after a tiny bit of hardship he breaks down and starts thinking he's a champion for people way less fortunate than he ever was. Truth is, Adachi stumbled, and instead of picking himself up he just kept on making shitty decisions.
Of course the Persona universe is pretty fucking unfair regardless though, everyone's a pawn in the eternal war between Philemon and Nyarlathotep. YHVH save us.
>>324230272 Yet the majority of the people hold dear the lie that if you just work hard enough you will become rich and succesfull. Being a poorfag is your own fault and you deserve to be humiliated for that. What a time to be alive.
>>324228925 >Seriously anon, just be happy you don't know the true meaning of what Adachi meant. Life is inherently unfair and I just hope for you you will never have to learn it the hard way. You poor thing, suffering so much. Why don't you just kill yourself if life is so unfair? >You can't choose your circumstances you are born in. You can't choose the body you are born in, whether it's a healthy normal body or some fucked up disabled one, You can however choose what do to with your situation. Your body is too weak to do manual labor/sports/whatever else? Do something that doesn't require strength. You are too retarded to learn anything useful? Do something that doesn't require you to think too hard. Disabled people still can work and also get support from the governmet. The only thing that limits you is thinking that you deserve better than that, just like Adachi. Barely anyone fulfills their dreams or get what they want. You only hear the few names that managed to achieve something, but completely forget about the masses you pass every day. >Or what resources (money, social contacts) you will be able to use to get yourself higher on the social ladder. You actually can do that. It just requires tons effort, which sounds like too much for you. >You also can't choose whether you are hit with cancer or some other disease can you? Or if some natural disaster hits your place, taking away everything you have or some drunk dude hits you with a car, paralysing you for life. Again, you can choose what to do with the situation. Sue or blackmail the driver, join a fundation, become a guinea pig in hopes your disease will get cured, continue with your life thinking that this is what was supposed to happen. Sky is your limit. Just be aware that wallowing in self-pity like that won't take you anywhere and is probably the worst possible option. Also the easiest.
>>324230074 Anon, history knows plenty of people who had shitty life but still managed to get somewhere. Or only became well known after their death in poverty, without any recognition until years later. Would you call them lucky too? I dunno if you are the one who said "Listen guys when you grow up a little bit" but if so, you are the one who sounds like he needs some growing up. You don't need to be written down in history in one way or another to be successful. Sure, not everyone is given equal oppurnities to become what they want, but with time their needs change. They stop wanting to be an astronaut or firefighter and just want to find a job that would cover their living expenses. For many just having a normal life would be a success.
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