XCOM 2 is only 3 weeks away lads. Let's predict what we'll

>>324127601
It's different from the original X-com. It's too similar/too different from the remake. DLC. Bullshit rng.

That's my guess for what people will be bitching about, even though they secretly like it because /v/ is contrarian by nature.

>>324127601
>Playing a watered down casual cash grab that will be littered with DLC

>>324127601
That the "developed for PC only" is a big fat lie.
Nothing they did makes it less optimally playable on console, the only thing that is missing is dedicated controller support, and I bet it has that from launch as well.
It is still a console game, and lacks a lot of the complexity of the old games, but has tons of abstract boardgame mechanics to make it less shallow. hacking an alarm box or a mechtrooper somehow keeps the doomsday at bay?
You have to research how to put people into a plane until it has reached max capacity?
You can only put a trigger OR a scope on a gun but not both, unless the gun is made from better materials or more advanced?
Carry one one-use item only, unless you authorized your people to carry two?

This is still the same garbage they put into it to make it sell on console, which has major problems with inventory management of more than 4 things.

>>324130098
Are you seriously suggesting they specifically pulled controller support from the preview builds?

>>324127601
>أنا الساهرة
ماذا يعني بهذا ؟
اهز رأسي

>>324128747
>I MISSED TWO 50% CHANCES IN A ROW
>THAT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE, FUCKING CHEATING GAME

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COMMANDER LOOKS LIKE THIS? FUCKING IMMERSION RUINED

There is only one Commander and Bradford is his prophet

Vigilo confido

>>324130479
50%?
I missed a fucking 90%
Fucking bullshit rng

>>324130442
Go back to your sand dune you pedant

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>>324127601
UFO Defense depth aside, I only wish that they made the maps larger. I hated how small they were. They've already fixed in the sequel the way you had to trigger warn and spawn your enemies on the battlefield so I'm fine with that. I made peace with the changes in nuXCOM and enjoy it for what it is.

>Infinite Ammo
>No Base Invasion like in the original (the base invasion in EW is just a scripted event that only happens once and doesn't base the map on your base)
>6 men squad instead of 14 to 26
>randomized classes(annoying as fuck)
>pre-designed maps that you play over and over again (There are around 30, lying devs say 80, but they count different spawn points as 'new maps')
>aliens have specific spawn points and won't move until you find them. This is not true for Terror Missions
>Forced to play with 1 base only. Unlike the original, you could have multiple bases
>Can't have multiple teams because of lacking multiple bases
>The new movement system is fucking retarded and limits your options to tactically advance
>can't choose your base location based on whatever you want, can only choose from 5 pre-set points around the world
>no needing to actually manufacture ammo or weapons, they're made instantly when you pay for them
>entire game revolves around satellites as fast as possible or you lose.
>no skyranger on the battlefield as initial cover
>no grenade priming
>no time units
>cant pick up items mid battle from other soldiers, either dropped or dead
>no facing/turning
>armor adds more health instead of blocking damage. Defense stat is an aim modifier meaning it's easier to hit a sectoid than a sectopod
>stats reduced from 8 to 3
>can only carry 1 grenade or 1 medkit etc at a time (can be upgraded to 2 in EW, still ain't shit)
>no inventory size to manage, allowing for no freedom in customization
>The environment isn't fully destructible. In the original the scenario could turn into a wasteland if the fight was long enough
>Cover in this isn't functional, it's just arbitrary stat bonuses, adding yet more RNG to the game, whilst removing all tactical decisions and strategy because of it
>bullets go through a foot of concrete and/or miss despite hitting the alien in the head
>No free aim
>can only research one project at a time

some don't apply but most do

>>324131547
With the map system working the way it does, I have high hopes that it'll be fairly easy to mod in much larger maps. You'd more or less just have to glue four map templates together and let the RNG fill them out, right?

>>324131704
What I want to know is how long you had to search for that.

How close to ufo defense is xenonauts? because I thought that was boring as shit (I did like the option to just bomb the fuck out of downed ufos though)

>>324131775

I have it saved in a txt file

I found this youtuber named beaglerush that is hilarious and I want to play because of him. I've never played a xcom game before and I have preordered 2 because of him. what am I in for?

>>324127601
Base invasions are almost definitely going to be a disappointment compared to original xcom. They'll probably just be a slightly expanded version of EU's one-off mission using an "XCOM" tileset for the procedural generation, rather than making it so that you have to consider the layout of your base from the standpoint of defending it.

>>324127601
I'll be playing my superior weeb games instead.

>>324131916

it's a clone but they fucked up a bunch of things like map generation and enemy placement and some other things

>>324127601
I fear the stealth system will be intrusive as fuck and even retarded at times
>walk in plain sight in front of enemy patrol
>they don't spot you

>>324132012
Play Xcom 1 and you'll know exactly what you're in for. Just pirate it, you've got time to run a campaign.

>>324132038
From what I've seen, base invasions take place outside your base and use whatever environment you landed on. Unless there's a potential second part that triggers if you do let enemies into the ramp.

>>324131704
>>No Base Invasion like in the original

Base invasion in XCOM2 is non-scripted and can happen multiple times. The aliens will periodically send out a UFO and try to hunt you down.

>>324131704
>pre-designed maps that you play over and over again (There are around 30, lying devs say 80, but they count different spawn points as 'new maps')

HOLD THE FUCK UP

Weren't the maps finally back to being randomized as in EU?

I NEED AN ANSWER

>>324131704
Firefights in the terror missions in the original was the best shit, it was like Alien SWAT

Will I be able to play it on my toaster guys?
I could only barely manage TW Rome 2.
Am I in trouble?

>>324132181


I think that's a copypasta from EU/EW

>>324132181
The vast majority of maps in XCOM2 are procedurally randomized. EU and EW had mostly premade maps with, a few of them having a few bits and bobs randomized like the layout of rooms and whatnot.

I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a few totally premade maps.

>>324132181
Maps in XCOM 2 are randomized, yeah. You have a variety of map templates with big holes in them and randomly selected prefab parts that fit into those holes.

>>324132159
I'm disappointed it happens in the wilderness outside the base. I know the base being a ship makes it hard to have a mission actually occur inside it but still.

>>324132857
There's still the question of what happens if you let aliens inside. It might be an instant game over, but it could also be something more interesting.

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>>324132743
>>324132374
>>324132331
Thank fuck anon.

Here, have sometits

>>324127601
I'm already super disappointed that each class is locked to their own weapon. My favorite 2nd wave options were randomized skills and stats because you end up with more unique soldiers and losing them actually matters.
Sure customization is better this time around but it's going to be hard to care about losing a ranger when my others are nearly identical.

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>>324130442

>>324127601
i predict snek

>earth ain't free

>>324133328
I hope random stats are still in as an option, yeah. Although those one-use personal combat sims kind of go in a similar direction.
As to the random abilities, there is a facility that will let your soldiers gain random abilities from other classes at certain promotions.

>>324132128
Campaign is way too long for him to be able to finish it before the sequel comes out.

>>324133937
A regular XCOM campaign is easily doable within 3 weeks.

>>324131704
>6 men squad instead of 14 to 26
Fuck managing 26 units with TUs

>>324133937
Normal vanilla EW is 40-60 hours

>>324130442
How the hell do people read Arabic in the Internet?
Those runes are so fucking tiny.

My guess is

>RNG loot
>broken stealth
>bad camera
>dumb plot
>cut features from EW

Otherwise it seems like a straight improvement from EU/EW.

>>324127601

does xcom 2 have denovu or whatever its called

>>324127601
Do you guys think my toast will be able to run it. I could barely handle TWRome 2. Welp

>>324131471
Im already there
>>324134324
Right to left :^)

>>324130442
العين الساهرة

So they're still doing full mod support, right?

>>324130694
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
Who the fuck wouldn't want to wear a cosmonaut outfit while leading a ragtag group of rebels against an alien menace that's copying the Collectors from Mass Effect 2 and trying to create a human reaper hybrid!?
Sounds fun.

>>324135827
You're not actually wearing that while commanding XCOM. It's part of the stasis unit the aliens put you in after capturing you when XCOM HQ fell. XCOM 2 starts with Bradford rescuing you from stasis.

Why do people think that larger squad sizes magically make the game better? Taking aspects from a previous game, which was developed with completely different goals in mind, and just grafting them to another game doesn't work.

>>324136029
Can I continue to wear it anyways?

>>324136073
because everything that's old is automatically better

x-com fans don't seem to realize that new xcom isn't a sequel, it's a reboot, they just can't seem to comprehend this

>>324130694
What if I was fat? How does that depiction supposed to represent me? The strength of the first game was that they never addressed your gender, everything happened from your own pov and you were never shown how you look like.

>>324136105
You can wear as much or as little of anything you want behind that camera.

>>324136073

It would be okay if managing each individual unit in EU had more depth, but not only do you have 6 units max but you also have less actions between the six of them than what you'd get with one X-com rookie

>>324136261
I get that it's a reboot

it's also a bad game

>>324136391
When will you realize literally nobody cares about your opinion. Get over it.

>>324127601
weak cashgrabs with 50 dlc
also ea games

>>324136286
>What if I was fat?
Dude in the pic looks really fucking chubby though.

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fuck advent

>>324136286
>What if I was fat?
Advent eradicated diseases, including obesity :^)

>>324136534

wew lad

>>324136729
The commander was frozen before the rise of ADVENT though.

>>324136686
>ADVENT banned dogs
Oh sweet, it's like living under Sharia law

>>324136686
>ayys fear animals

>>324136290
I will wear the cosmonaut suit and nothing else

>>324136623
What if you were a midget?

>>324136810
I thought it he was being mind controlled and working for them, and that he sleeps in a stasis pod for kicks.

>want to pre-order for $45
>kinda broke for next few weeks

>>324127601
With all the stuff they have shown to be honest I'm scared it will all be really shallow. That they went really wide but didn't add any depth to it so most of the enemies will bee seen once like a slide show and never seen again because to keep "balance" there is only one big bad a map and they have to keep shuffling forward.

I'm also a little tense for the mods. With so much hype for them I'm expecting something like a "mod pass" where "You can download any 5 mods for just 1.99usd! To get updates for those mods or new ones just buy another Mod Pass!"

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>>324136686
>ayys are literally just Muslims
Excellent

>>324136958
It might be possible that he was the nexus of the psychic network that all the ADVENT troopers are apparently slaved to.

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I'm in love with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvx-ixOpgHM

>>324136958
>What if you were a midget?
How do you know those aren't two midgets in a single suit?

>>324137074
>The resistance is muslims
>Advents are muslims
>Ayys are muslims
Is there anyone NOT a fucking muslim with you people? Don't you fucking dare claim the resistence isn't muslims, all they need is a fucking takbir and a nasheed bgm in the background,

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>>324136686
>>324136889
>>324137074
>they were the allahu snackbars all along

>>324137225
What if you were stuck in a wheelchair?

GET HYPE BOIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v05ycGUNIo0

>>324137341
Wheelchairs are all actually elegant exoskleteons attached to the side of your limbs in the future.

>>324137341
Technically the commander is never seen walking, though he does sit up so it's really offensive to quadriplegic players who use their mouths to play

>>324137341
You never see the Commander walk.

>>324137227

Everyone is Muslims, anon.

>>324137227
>takbir and a nasheed bgm in the background
Mixed with sleek wubstep.

>>324137227
>mfw /v/ secretly wants to be muslim

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Hey buddy. Want to try some long war? I can hook you up.

>>324130442
then how do you say VIGILO CONFIDO in the tongue of the sand people?

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my great grandfather was a muslim from tatar
guess that's why i have this fighting spirit

VIGILO CONFIDO

>>324135406
salam my friend.
hazza website min ahl al jahanam wa kos om ill le yis6agdemoona

>>324131704
Hey, thats my pasta from back when EU was released!
>>324134119
Casual

I can't wait for the mods to play ISIS simulator

>>324137379
>that snek part
Fits so well fampai

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>>324137227
We're all muslims here, anon.

>>324138291
So Islam finally won in the world of future?

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>>324138401
It won years ago.

Commander is the Volunteer

Was confirmed that they never died on the temple ship

MACHO MAN SAVAGE GOING TO SLAY SOME AYYS

>>324137829
>>>/8ch/egy

>>324138463
"I'm retared" : The Post

>>324137379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqlkHrp-FA0 desu

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>>324131321
90% != 100%

next

>>324127601
Lack of depth probably.

Xcom EU got very repetative very quickly.

>>324127601
The only thing I'd really like back is friendly fire. But it's not a make-or-break option for me. Either way I'm going to buy it and play it and most likely enjoy it.

The majority of /v/ will do what >>324128747
said though.

>>324136391
This is objectively false. X-Com's "depth" of actions boiled down to "what flavor of normal-ass shot do you wanna take?" as opposed to XCOM's unique abilities.

>>324127601
"They've just made it hard for the sake of being hard."

That's what I reckon. So much stuff in previews has been about how many of your dudes die and you'll almost never get a full team home, how things have been shaken up so tactics from the first game don't work any more, and so on. So the old hard for the sake of hard criticism will probably come up.

>>324139212
Honestly, it just looks like everyone in the preview videos are just shit.

Taking huge risks, with bad positioning, and still only losing 1-2 guys.

>>324139212
I dunno man, most of the people who know what they're doing are more or less breaking the game in half on the highest difficulty.
Although balancing is still going on, and the builds that the devs stream tend to have tougher enemies than the preview build.

>>324139053
X-com was about getting a large amount of explosives as fast as possible and then just blowing everything to hell from the other side of the map.

>>324132949
Instant game over. Avenger Defense missions make it sound like they'd gain easy access to the power coils, and with the original codes they can lock it down permanently.

Considering you'll hear about Battleships being redirected to the area in order to bombard the shit out of the Avenger, it's a guaranteed insta-lose. I wish in some harder versions this shit is for real and you have an active countdown until battleships show up and maybe a few extra turns after that before the Avenger is out right blasted to pieces.

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>>324139372
the previews are either on easiest or that faggot beagle using mods

i just want to see some classic unmodded gameplay with no fucktards on mic

>>324139416
The defense mission is on a turn limit, and that's probably exactly what happens when it runs out before you manage to destroy that EMP thing.

>>324139053
>as opposed to XCOM's unique abilities.

a large portion of which boil down to letting you do something every unit in X-com can do

>>324139416
The one I've seen had no turn limit on screen. Just a dropship every turn after a certian point.

Which slowly increased in numbers dropped.

>>324139558
Strange. I watched ChristopherOdd's (was it?)'s run and even on Legend he didn't have that visible anywhere.

I assume it might be a dark event that makes it so later Avenger Defense missions are also timed.

>>324127601

They will absolutly paint the Xcom side as the good guys with zero ambiguity, despite them being the terrorist fucks.

>>324139630
Oh, in that case I was talking out my ass, because that's also the one I watched.
Would make sense to have a timer, though.

>>324139665
Fuck you and your snakes.

>>324139758
You fool! He wants that!

>>324139665

Well considering the aliens are literally harvesting humanity as a resource, I agree with that representation

>>324139839
Are we jumping to conclusions now? What makes you say that?

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>>324139665
fuck off advent

>>324130479
I stopped giving a shit about 50% misses. The hit chance % is fucking meaningless in that game when you can miss a 90% and an 80% back to back. I've probably hit on a 20% shot more often than a 90%

Any footage of whatever xcom 2's game over shit is?

>>324139720
>Would make sense to have a timer, though.
The mission already has infinite ayy reinforcements that will overrun you sooner or later, a timer would cross into LW-tier of artificial difficulty.

>>324140005
The prophet Bradford is executed publicly and becomes a martyr, leading to XCOM 3. Trust me, I am Firaxis.

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>>324139758
That's the idea.

>>324139909

If we assume the Ethereal are still in charge, in Xcom 1 they wanted humans to "evolve" and then use their bodies or some shit (I don't think its ever really clear), then yeah

>>324138682
hhhhhhhhh ta3 shaklak

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>>324139967
>snipers fucking miss everything till you hit 100+ aim

they keep nerfing all the snipers stats and skill yet dont address the core issue of squad sight being the only choice as it gives global range.

>>324140312
Squad sight is the lv1 skill in 2, though.
Wasn't it something like headshot in the original?

>>324140312
In XCOM 2, it's the first ability all sharpshooters get.

>>324140202
What's this facebook post about? I tried googling it and found someone sperging out over soldier names in the game.

http://forums.2k.com/showthread.php?3226971-Soldier-Names

>>324140592
the original is some indian looking woman holding a huge snake

I kinda wish you couldn't change a soldier's nationality

Its part of what made them unique

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>>324136686

That's kinda creepy. Reminds me of that X-Files episode where they discover a buried boxcar full of failed hybrid experiments.

>>324141047
It's probably the result of an alien commander finding out that the batch of sectoids he just thawed out from cryo were past their expiration date, so he dumped them because he didn't want to deal with the paperwork.

>>324139572
Again, taking one game's mechanics and comparing it to another's doesn't work. Apples and oranges, man.

>>324137738
allahu ackbar

Implying the snek fuckers don't have weird vore fetishes

>>324136889
Do hardline Muslims hate dogs or something?

>>324140525
I've played Long war for so long that I don't quite remember. I think it was between squad sight and snap shot at level 2.

>>324127601
I really wish this game was as good as Enemy Unknown. Enemy Unknown with Enemy Within was probably my favorite mainstream strategy game of the decade.

But as OP's picture already says, it looks like XCOM 2 will be ruined to death with the forced feminism and "DIVERSITY" bullshit.

As if it wasn't enough that they changed the gender spawning rate of soldiers in Enemy Within from 66:33 (M:F) to 40:60 (M:F).

>>324142447
top bait

>>324142378
No, I'm saying the Rook->Squaddie skill in 2 is squad sight now.

And it was headshot in EU/W. I know it was a choice between "unlimited" range and scoot'n'shoot in the EU/W.

And honestly, the sketchy LoS has fucked me as much as helped me in EU/W that squad sight isn't a 100%...

>>324142447
>40:60
[Citation needed]

>>324141834

I can compare it to board games and it'll still be shallow

>>324142447
>Gender rate change

Was that actually a thing that happened, this isn't the first time I've seen someone saying that.

>>324142447

Please kill yourself.

>>324142353
Yes. They're fucking retarded.

>>324142871
I'm curious about that too. I did think that I was getting a whole lot of chicks on my playthrough. It doesn't help they even have an achievement for only using women

>>324142447
good more waifus for my male soldier bros and that will prevent the unwanted gay buttsecks

>>324143045
dont forget the brojobs

>>324143034
That achievement shows a deep internalized misogynism, actually, because it implies that having a victorious all-female squad is something special whereas a victorious all-male squad is no big deal, or in other words, females are seen as inherently less competent.

>>324142551
Okay, maybe it wasn't 40:60 but anyone who played EU and then played EW can confirm that there was a huge increase in the amount of female soldiers you get.

I did the starting mission alone about 100 times in EW alone, and there were always at least 2 female squad members, usually even 3. Maybe once in 10 restrats did I get 3 males 1 female.

In case you're wondering, I always restarted at least 10-20 times whenever I made a new run because I wanted to get the good nationalities (especially French, so I could set them to speak French, I love the French female and the French male voices in EW), instead of the shitty ones (African/South American trash - Spanish voices were absolutely unbearable to listen to). I know you can set the voices for any nationality to anything, but it just doesn't seem normal to hear a BR speak French.

Hey look, someone even made a thread about it on the official forums
http://forums.2k.com/showthread.php?421461-Enemy-within-big-gender-imbalance-towards-women

>>324142891
>>324142528
What's your agenda here?

Should I buy Xcom 2 and wait 'till February 5 or should I buy Dragon's Dogma and play it now?

>>324143270
And there's the numbers:
>Actually, on EW the ratio is more balanced than in EU, the results you're getting deviate from the norm but that's expected. On EU the male/female ratio for soldier generation was 75% to 25%, IIRC. On EW the ratio has been rebalanced to 50/50.

In any case, you can just change your soldiers' sex at will and/or fill the character pool with dudes in XCOM2.

>>324143362
pirate both

>>324143270
My agenda is that you care way too much about this shit when you can customize soldiers in any way you want. It's honestly pretty laughable how upset you get over it.

>>324143362
DD is amazing senpai~

>>324143526

The hilarious part about faggots like this is they somehow don't get that they are literally reverse SJW.

>>324143584
Will I like it if I don't like Dark Souls?

>>324143526
>My agenda is that you care way too much about this shit when you can customize soldiers in any way you want.

You can't do that in EU/EW, you retard. Nationality and gender are impossible to change unless you play with some "mods" that typically "fix" a lot of other "balance issues".

It's not laughable at all either, it's natural for a great leader like me to want to lead fellow white people instead of stinky BRs.

>>324143616
>wanting some bits of realism in sci-fi games makes you a "literally reverse SJW"

Yeah sure. Bet you loved that new Star Wars movie too.

>>324143696
DD plays nothing like DS.
Try it, you can always refund it if you don't like it.

>>324142447
But.. in XCOM2 you can change EVERYTHING about your soldiers, how could such a problem exist?

Don't like that Nigerian bull negro you got? Change him into a proper white Norwegian snowdevil.

That ditzy American slut with blue diversity hair and attitude glasses? Make her into an obedient blonde bimbo.

A full squad of blue-eyed aryans from germoney? Do it.

>>324143763
I'm sure if you're this upset about people having different skin colours other than aryan white you're most welcome to go ahead and try to change it yourself Adolf.
The majority of people aren't going to be bothered by it, since the theme of the game is to bring humanity together against the ayys, not the glorious fourth reich against the ayys.

can you check for line of sight between tiles in this game? cause the lack of that in the first game was pure bs

>>324143907
>Don't like that Nigerian bull negro you got? Change him into a proper white Norwegian snowdevil.

Good, I wouldn't expect that from seeing just the trailer.

Looks like some of my worries were unfounded then.

But they did still kill the evil patriarch Dr. Shen and replaced him with young strong independent fantasy woman who somehow knows all he did about engineering despite her age and gender.

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>>324143907
I'll just make a squad of Slavs.
Pity they don't give us Russian voices. I'll use Australian then since they're also white niggers.

>>324144129
Wait no Russian voices this time?

>>324144029
>The majority of people aren't going to be bothered by it,
Yeah, but the majority of people also send their soldiers to the meat grinder like it's no thing, even on piss easy difficulties (anything below Classic).

I remember every single person who died in all of my EW/EU playthroughs (all of them Ironman, most of them Classic, a few Impossible), since there were so few of them.

But now you're probably gonna get super buttblasted and defensive, just like the bad players always do. Just like Shin, the god of XCOM multiplayer, had to experience every single time he posted anything, back in the day.

Okay, how about this, how good is DD's customization?

I am honestly pretty stocked for Xcom 2's customization.

Personal note: I think they should create Marvel Ultimate Alliance's alliance thing. Like ability to create squads that have perks if all members of a certain squad are on the mission. And have like squad rep/xp that lets you enhance those perks. And of course, each squad can have its own logo and name, like Fox Hound.

>>324144247
*soldier, not person. Civilians are too many times impossible to rescue in Terror maps, depending on the map you get.

>>324144247
I'm not even sure what you're getting at here or how it's relevant.
You were arguing about the fact that there are different nationalities in xcom, i told you that you can just change it and now you're saying i'm bad at the game?

>>324144286
>how good is DD's customization?
From chocolate tall muscle amazons to lithe goth lolis. Elves included. Faces depend on your sliderfu really. You can also edit your pawns.

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>mfw NL miserably failed base assault mission

>>324144329
aparently on 2 you HAVE to rescue a minimal amout so, that plus faceless plus harder dificulties means FUN

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>tfw you will never get a good jagged alliance 2 and xcom ufo defense hybrid

>>324130442
fuck off sand nigger

>>324127601
>XCOM 2: Long War Mod

My body is not ready.

I think the game will be good but people will bitch that they released an expansion as an entirely new game. It will be too close to the original to really offer a fresh experience. Popularity will be high at first but drop off quickly. It will still be buggy.

>>324144210
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqLNE8VXDGU 8:40

>>324143696
The games have nothing to do with each other except that you play a person who may or may not wield a sword or use magic, and hits things until they die.

>>324144578
long war devs are making a standalone game so its unlikely that we will get the same mod like last long war

>>324144578
I am too scrub for Long War

I like how personal you can get with your best soldier and then lose them. Long War implies that all your soldiers are expendable because it wants to create feel of a real war, while in the original you cherish every soldier.

>>324144686
Well, yeah, but this time around modding the game will actually be possible without having to sell your soul to the devil first. There's probably going to be more than one overhaul style mod.

>>324144421
>I'm not even sure what you're getting at here or how it's relevant.
That's again, because you were not a very good player. Since it's a lot harder to care about some nationalities than others, being forced to use said nationalities makes me more likely to risk their lives and that makes it inderictly harder to play on impossible.

In your language, the "deep seethed institutionalized racism" makes me play worse when I have soldiers with nationalities that I am unsympathetic to. When you're playing on Ironman Impossible and trying to get 0 losses, every little detail about everything matters.

It's just mathematics, really, same as in MOBA games like Dota 2. Playing with Peruvian/Russian players automatically makes me (and many others) worse because of the "unjustified racial prejudice" felt towards them and it makes us tilt, at least a little bit, even if we try our hardest not to. That's anyone would prefer to play not with Peruvians/Russians, if they could get equal skilled tolerable nationality teammates instead.

>>324144480

Well you also had to save a minimal amount of civilians in EU/EW terror mission, otherwise you'd get a panic rise, making your efforts a bit futile. I'm not really sure since I never had a worse than "OK" rating.

>>324136686
wait, what if you can have soldiers with attack dogs

holy shit

>>324144580
I think my main complaint might be that it ends up being too shallow. Long War kind of spoiled me in that regard.

It's funny how XCOM's initial reception was pretty lukewarm but got a lot better over the years.

>>324144893
>XCOM's initial reception was pretty lukewarm
It wasn't, though.

>>324144885
Yeah that would be great except yeah fucking right as if something like that would actually make it into the game

>>324142353
It's a middle eastern thing. Dogs are traditionally considered unclean and unfit to be pets, unlike cats.

>>324144518
> Xcom:EU is now the standard for TBT since everyone is copying it instead of something good

RIP projectiles

>>324144807
i think the terror mission are is a have to rescue or lose the civilians, its alien cities and towns after all

>tfw Russian
>tfw no Russian voices
Jokes on you, I usually use German voices for male soldiers and French voices for female soldiers. Now imagine how it sounds when several soldiers of different sex are panicking. Also, will Xcom 2 have German and French voices?

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Where is that flag from? All it says is "I am the one who stayed up late" it's feminine and is said in the sort of way that it implies irresponsibility.
It's not even a proper sentence

>>324145216
>Also, will Xcom 2 have German and French voices?
Yeah, I've heard them in a bunch of videos.

>>324145268
Maybe it's a really shitty google translate of "vigilo confido".

>>324145216
They removed Russia in XCOM2? There were Russian voices in the first game.

The second best foreign voice if you ask me, after French. German is kind of meh to be honest, especially if you speak the language. But Americans seem to love when they say "Flammenwerfer" or something (the MEC units).

I've heard people talk that there's a higher ratio for you to get female soldiers than male in the game is that true? Why would they do that? At least in the sequel there's Gender Reassign Center where you can change it to whichever you like, so you're not stuck with someone you dislike.

>>324144993
It wasn't? I remember /v/ being pretty pissed about it being way too shallow and easy compared to the original X-Com games.

Might be wrong here though. It's been a while, and I remember XCOM being a huge surprise to me when I actually gave it a shot and it ended up being very fun.

>>324145268
>>324145384
That's exactly what it is.

>>324144050
Literally his daughter or granddaughter, can't remember. Dude died of old age, chick took over after years of training.

>>324131704
>A lot of stuff wrong
>shoehorns own opinions
>Comparing to classic XCOMs
Fuck off you autist

>>324145564
A loud minority was, of course, but most people liked it, especially after the shooter announcement.

>>324145618
It's his daughter. Which is awkward because people who die of old age don't normally have daughters that young.

>>324142353
yeah but people still had them back in the day. modern saudi islam is just retarded and focused on prohibition rather than things like belief

>>324145748
He's asian to so hes older then he looks
Then again maybe she is as well

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>>324145703
I stand corrected then. My bad.

>>324145384
ah "I am watchful", would've made more sense if it was masculine, would've implied that he is a nightwatcher rather than some bimbo who stayed up too late watching chick flicks

>>324139491
>i just want to see some classic unmodded gameplay with no fucktards on mic

This. I'm sick and tired of their constant stream of mouth diarrhea

>>324145846
Could you post a better translation?

>>324144050
It's Shen's daughter you dumb son of a bitch.

>>324127601
The stealth system was supposed to give us more maneuverability and ability to establish combat on our terms. But from the looks of things, it's just going to be like that until you ambush the first pod, then xcom 1 again where you cannot maneuver due to fear of triggering pods, keep everyone clumped together and push forward in 1 direction

>>324130479
The real bullshit isn't your shots, it's the enemies

Turn on the display for enemy to-hit chances, and realize that thin men hit 30% shots on full cover 75% of the time

>>324145564
Well /v/ gets pissed about anything honestly.

Of reboots and remakes I still think Xcom is one of the best. It maintains the concept of defending earth with plenty of 'humanity fuck yea'.

At least that's how I think reboots should be done. Because if I wanted to play the same game I'd be looking for remakes and spiritual successors.

It's why Xcom (2012) plays so different from something like Xenonauts because one is following a very specific design philosophy that is contradicted by elements present in the other.

>>324143763
>But as OP's picture already says, it looks like XCOM 2 will be ruined to death with the forced feminism and "DIVERSITY" bullshit.

Sounds like you have a problem with it in XCOM 2.

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>play long war
>start a new campaign
>First few days are going smoothly
>out of nowhere Brazil decides to pull its funding
>there was absolutely nothing I could do about it
Even in singleplayer huehues ruin everything.

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>>324144050
>>324145618
It would have been way better if Shen was an old fuck in XCOM 2 but still heading the Engineering department. He could have a robot exoskeleton to help him walk.

>>324144518
With XCOM 2's mod support, there's a chance.

>>324145268
Not everyonr speaks arabic.

Btw, the Xcom motto means

"My eyes are open. I believe"

>>324145987
There's no actual "bullshit" in any of the percentages. It's pure pseudoRNG, nothing more. Only bad players complain about that.

Good players don't rely on chance alone, always have a backup plan, know when they can expect that 80% to actually hit and when it is very, very likely to miss, etc.

>>324146062
The one country leaving early thing in Long War is normal. It's where the alien base is.

>>324146062
Can't tell if you were making a joke here, but in Long War there is always one country that leaves the council at the beginning.

>>324138291
>You know nothing Jon Snow

>>324146138
It would've been better if Vahlen was torturing aliens with her saggy tits.

>>324144518
whats jagged alliance?

>>324130442
i don't speak terrorist

>>324145846

pls teach me arabic, my egyptian immigrant father never did

>>324146302
One of those newfangled video games.

>>324146256
Implying they wouldn't enjoy that.

>>324146191
>>324146227
Oh shit really? The more you know.

>>324144807
I love how you -try- to say in your post how "It's normal guys, I swear, I'm not autistic" but in the end you admit it's just your own prejudice. Anyway, nobody gives a shit, but hey, look, firaxis even pandered to your sperg ass! It's all good now right? Hope you not gonna shoot up that school.

>>324146256
>Vahlen returns to your side after getting wondertits from the alien clinic
>replaces Tygan who is revealed to be a Faceless with amnesia
That nigger talks funny, he's up to no good I'm telling you

>>324146302
tactical skyrim with guns

>>324146371
That would be like torturing you with snek tits. Imagine how filthy and disgusting that would be.

>>324146428
>I love how you -try- to say in your post how "It's normal guys, I swear, I'm not autistic" but in the end you admit it's just your own prejudice.

I put it in quotes because implying prejudice is bad or unjustified. I really hope that you're just trolling and not doing this for free, since with that attitude it's quite clearly you couldn't even finish XCOM on anything other than Easy.

>>324139967

I got so angry at XCOM that I got convinced the games percentages were fucked and started recording every event on paper.

I'm not a statistician, so I don't know how many data points I needed to be legit, but over three playthroughs, my numbers were pretty shit. The total of all chances between 75% and 85% hit about 68% of the time on average. All of the 25% shots I took landed about 12% of the time. It was illuminating. It also made me less angry because once I realized I was getting hosed, I just ticked the numbers down in my head, and adjusted play accordingly.

>>324137158
Hold on, how fucking big can your squad be in 2?

>>324146875
https://sinepost.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/is-xcom-truly-random/

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>Entire world is occupied by aliens, you have no funding, no regular means of recruiting and minimal organization, you need to take help wherever you can find it, no matter who they are
>Literally fighting to save the entire species
>WHY AREN'T THEY ALL WHITE MEN

How is this a complaint real people can have?

>>324147037
It can be really big, for a guy like you.

>>324147037
That's a modified ini. Squad size in 2 is usually the same as in EU, barring special missions.

>>324147037
6 is the normal max
i believe you can have 8 on special missions (aka base defense no idea what else)
beagle is using an ini mod in that video to raise squad cap to some crazy number

>>324147098
Great article, it's what gave me the winner's mentality here >>324146164 (that and the videos of that guy who made an Ironman Impossible run back in EU XCOM, his name was badger something I think?).

>>324145676
>A lot of stuff wrong

like what? care to provide examples?

>>324147401
He probably didn't realize that it's old Enemy Unknown pasta.

>>324146164
>pseudoRNG
What exactly does that mean?

>>324147632
Classical computers can't generate numbers randomly, they use pseudo random number generators

>>324147098

The interesting thing there is that his most pronounced spikes and dips occurred where mine did.

In particular I noticed his 40-45% range spiked high. In my own study, I noticed that my ~45% shots hit at about 55% of the time.

So he can say that the RNG is within the bounds of being correct all he wants, but if shots listed at 45% consistently hit at 55% in numerous studies, that should affect your playstyle. Much in the same way 25% shots hitting less than 20% of the time should.

>>324127601
are cutscenes in xcom eu 30 fps? no matter what happens my fps drops to 30 fps during cutscenes, and when landing the skyranger my fps drops to seven for less then a second. Is that normal?
gameplay is always 60

>>324147632

In short - it's not truly random. Your chance to hit / miss depends on your previous hits / misses.

The more you hit, the more you're likely to miss.

The more you miss, the moer you're likely to hit.

Perfect example:

You have two soldiers, one has a 90% chance to hit the alien, the other has 100%. Which one should go first?

Answer:

ALWAYS the 90% one. Because 100% is going to hit no matter what. But the fact that you hit still decreases the 90% guy's chance to hit.

This literally happened to me once, I got too cocky and took the 100% shot first and yep, the 90% guy missed as a result. Reload -> 90% guy shoots first, he hits.

>>324147632
Just that computers can't actually generate truly random numbers, so what they do is run the system time through a complicated function or something.

>>324147912
That has nothing to do with how the RNG works, it's just the streak breaker. And it can't make you miss when you should hit, it can only make you hit when you should miss.

>This literally happened to me once
>once
That means absolutely nothing.

>>324147912
Welcome to XCOMs seed system. If you take a chain of shots, reload, and do it again, the results are unchanged. Switching up the order means the seed is a new one.

Also nice work on reloading on a 90% shot missing

how did the ayyliens take over the world when we killed them in the other game?

>>324144678
this is enough to make me cancel pre-orders, what the actual fuck.

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>>324148170
We didn't, that was a dream.

>>324147912
>Reload -> 90% guy shoots first, he hits.
Oh, wait, it does mean something, just not what you think. You ran into the fact that the seed for the pseudo-RNG is saved along with the game. Meaning that the first soldier to shoot rolled a high number and the second one rolled a low number.

>>324148170
Most of the people who played it didn't finish the story line. So firaxes went and made that canon.

>>324147929
Not exactly the same thing. PseudoRNG is what I said above, literally every hit / miss makes you more likely to hit / miss.

Computers can't do truly random numbers, but they can at least make every random chance isolated from previous results.

>>324148074
Braindead retard.

Did you even read that fucking article? That's literally what pseudoRNG does in games.

Same goes for critical hits in Dota 2 in example. As a result, you can always exploit it by counting the times you didn't get a crit, meaning you have a much higher chance to crit next time.

Educate yourself.

>>324148150
That was just to check if it's because of the pRNG.

>>324147761
>>324147929
Ah, OK. How do they generate pseudoRNG

>>324148170
>you defeated one mother ship
>yay we wond
>20 other motherships invaded the earth
>xcom on suicide watch

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>>324148186
Come on bruh, it's not so bad. Again, there's always Straya voices.

>>324148265
And furthermore, to use the example of Dota 2 again since that is probably the best popular game that perfectly exemplified the difference between normal RNG and pseudoRNG in games.

Before some patch, there used to be a skill in Dota 2 that had a 17% chance to "stun" (or bash). Since it had unrestricted RNG, you would get games where someone gets bashed 7 times in a row.

After popular demand, they changed this skill to pseudoRNG. Now it's pretty much impossible to get 7 bashes in a row.

The whole point of pseudoRNG is to remove long streaks of proccing / not proccing by keeping track of the proc history.

>>324148265
>Did you even read that fucking article
Did you? There's nothing in there implying anything like
>every hit / miss makes you more likely to hit / miss
That's because that doesn't happen.

>>324148186
It is kind of dumb just how little linguistic variety is actually there (don't know why he was impressed). That should be modded in proper quick innit.

>>324148540

I am ltierally telling you what the difference between pseudoRNG and computer generated RNG.

This is not an opinion thing. This is something that you can put into Google and it will blurt out the same stuff I told you right now.

Every time you proc, your chance to proc again gets lower.

Every time you don't proc, your chance to proc gets higher.

Jesus Christ.

>>324145986
It feels balanced out by people not wasting their Overwatch on an already dead enemy. As a result, your Overwatch setups can take out entire pods or at least severely damage them if things go well.

Also depending on the mission reinforcements will appear. They're basically pods you know about far ahead of time, and a lot of videos show people wrecking the fuckers the moment they landed because they set up and prepared for it.

You're right that the other pods get to move, but I get the feeling between the random loot and the general gameplay improvements, the hide-and-overwatch aspect of it will feel at least more engaging even if it's the same old method you stuck to in EU/EW.

>>324148494

Can please a fellow Dotard in this thread confirm that this was a thing?

Surely there's one of you guys here.

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>>324148634
>That should be modded in proper
Now that you mention it, it should be relatively easy to mod in, yeah. Just rip the voices from Xcom1 and add them in; if it's impossible to add new slots then replace the existing ones with them. Hopefully it's possible.

>>324148685
>I am ltierally telling you what the difference between pseudoRNG and computer generated RNG.
No, dude. You're not. Here, let me show you:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator
>A pseudorandom number generator (PRNG), also known as a deterministic random bit generator (DRBG),[1] is an algorithm for generating a sequence of numbers whose properties approximate the properties of sequences of random numbers. The PRNG-generated sequence is not truly random, because it is completely determined by a relatively small set of initial values, called the PRNG's seed (which may include truly random values).

That's what a pseudo-RNG is. Nothing in there about rolls affecting other rolls, which makes sense, because the pRNG doesn't even know whether the number it just generated led to a hit or a miss. You're describing something that the XCOM devs call a streak breaker and that's disabled on classic and impossible.

>want it to be way more ambitious than XCOM
>don't want it to be a slog through mud like Long War

Will they find the balance?

>>324148494
Dude pseudo random number generators and pseudo random distribution are different things and you're mixing them up

>>324148907
>he doesn't understand that the article is saying the opposite of what he thinks
Ok, I give up, you're a lost cause.

>>324148894
That's alot harder then you think.
The xcom 2 guys will most likely say new things so you can't really rip the voices from Xcom 1. adding to them causes a huge disparity in quality, a great example of that is long war, all the voices they added in the mod sound amateuristic compared to the original voices.

>>324149031
Exactly, they're different things, I'm not the one mixing it up, this guy is >>324148907

>>324149062
Show me the specifics of what makes you think that and I'll try to explain to you why you're wrong.

>>324149168
You mean you're going to quote parts of a Wikipedia article that make you think is helping your opinion.

>>324149115
well I'm going to mod in an Irish accent with awful sound quality and you are all going to add it to your games

>>324149115
Well sure some lines are different but most of them are still just generic quotes that can be replaced with similar ones.

>>324149267
Hey, at this point it looks to me like you're just using different words for the same thing. Not sure why it's so hard for you to get that point across.

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VIGILO CONFIDO

>>324127601
Why doesn't the flag say "ayy lmao"?

>>324148828
Yes it was a thing.
I'm not sure if they actually "changed it" per se though, pseudo-RNG was always a feature of the WC3 engine and I thought they just carried that over.

>>324149705
Surely you remember the non-stop "um...dotards?" webms of Spirit Breaker getting 10 bashes in a row that used to get posted in the past and now they don't since the chance for SB to get such streak of bashes is a lot lower than the actual purely mathematical chance.

>>324149605
because they are not aliens?!
ayyy lmao is their motto

>>324142447
Just like EU/EW you can change the male/female ratio of your recruits in the .ini

>>324147037
Starting 4, max of 6 like in EU.
The game itself natively supports up to 8 squad members (editing the .ini to add in more than 6 squaddies will have the screen expand to show two additional soldiers), and they added a scroll bar for modders to use when they inevitably increase the size even more rather than the arrow clicking of LW.

>>324127601
The preview seemed to easy.

>>324137158
Is there a full video for this?

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reminder this is how well the average XCOM player performs

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>>324149605
Here's your version you snake loving fuck.

>>324150183
I tended to avoid those threads for obvious reasons.

All I've seen of Xcom 2 is the Giant Bomb preview.
Can anyone explain why all the women in this game are so butt ugly?
This is a deal breaker for me.

>>324150925
Just your typical western manjaws anon. Nothing to be surprised.

>>324150318
Nice, who made this?

>>324144580
>people will bitch that they released an expansion as an entirely new game.
i feel like unless a sequel is an entirely different genre /v/ will complain it's an expansion pack at this point

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just refunded DD for preordering this game...

>>324151007
I'll pass on this game, if I can't have a squad of QTs then I don't want to bother.

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>still believing in XCOMs lies

We've cured diseases, illnesses, and goddamn CANCER. We can push your body to any limit that you want and you still go against us? Thanks for holding the human race back

>>324127601
>Let's predict what we'll hate about it.

Obviously getting fucked over by RNG
Shit class abilities
10% chance to inflict 3% Poison damage over 43 seconds type upgrades for equipment
Quickly realising that maps are similar and predictable because the the code that generates maps could do with expanded parameters
No Snaek NPC to fawn over

And I'm plenty of other shit.

>>324151806
I don't understand.

Where did this meme originate?

Are there lizardmen in human skin pretending to be human alien apologist in this thread?

>>324151806
>It's okay to be subjugated so long as you pamper us for a while before harvesting us

>>324152014
>And I'm plenty of other shit.

Meant to put "plenty of other shit" but this is better.

>>324152014
I already dislike the ''we cool watchdogs now glitchy interface''

and the bland artstyle, I hope it wont but it looks like its going to get old quickly

>>324151007
Defined jaw != manjaw, weeb.

>>324152165
>m-muh disappearances

Have you even talked to anyone who vanished for a bit and then came back? They volunteer for our programs to continue improving the human body and pushing it to new heights. It's thanks to those people that the city centers are disease free.

Meanwhile you've done nothing to contribute to humanities success, and resorted to terrorist acts against the bases in which we conduct our research. Pathetic.

>>324152626
Humanities freedom from the control and influence of aliens is worth surrendering these free passes to technologies. Humanity would have eventually accomplished all of this on its own given time.

Calling us terrorists matters naught. History will decide ho we are.

>>324153086
>Humanity would have eventually accomplished all of this on its own given time

If this is what you guys honestly believe then you're even more delusional than I originally believed.

Before us, how was your world? A disaster. It was full of nothing but crime, war, distrust between nations, and so on. All of your so called progresses was actually false info being sent to the masses to make them believe that the world they live in isn't complete shit.

Now take a look at the world now. The nations and their people which followed us live excellent lives. They don't have to worry about anything, and they happily live luxurious lives. Crimes are non-existent, and there are no world tensions to worry about.

Besides you. You seem content on being the one thing that citizens now have to worry about. I congratulate you on that.

>>324151806
fuck off advent shill

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>>324153537
>They don't have to worry about anything, and they happily live luxurious lives. Crimes are non-existent, and there are no world tensions to worry about.
You banned domestic animals. You alien fucks banned cats.
Get off my planet or I'll throw you off.

>>324153537
>All of your so called progresses was actually false info being sent to the masses to make them believe that the world they live in isn't complete shit.

The pot calls the kettle black.

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>>324127601
I worry about the game being a clusterfuck.

All Ayys have at least 2 abilities. They have a ton of AOE Attacks, buffs, debuff, elements, and transformations. And it all really does make me feel like the underdog. which is good.

Are we going to lose the strategic elements of cover and actually using our gun? or is this just gonna be wizards with rockets and snipers fighting?

>>324153740
You call them domestic. We call them feral.

Humanity had failed to train them to respect us, and as such we had no choice but to outlaw them unless we wanted daily attacks on our troops.

>>324153841
Okay then, what false info are we feeding the masses? Name it.

>>324136954

I will wear a pretty, pink dress and put bows in my hair.

>>324153537
You banned cats. Vigilo Confido you fuck.

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>>324152028
The original comics is always the guy noticing two stark contrasts of reality, then making a snide comment about it as himself as he writes and draws in the corner. I don't remember the authors name though.

>>324154172
Ah yes, the new-age terrorist call. Couldn't you guys have thought up of something better than that?

>>324153994
>Okay then, what false info are we feeding the masses? Name it.

The very idea that you are here for our sole and unconditional benefit. You stand to gain from this silent takeover and the world will turn red with human blood when the day comes.

wait so what's stopping the aliens from using their genetic fuckery to make domestic animals smart enough to respect them and us?

I of course don't mind cats being banned, because I'm allergic.

>>324146351
Do you have 15+ years of your life full of slaving to spare?
It's well structured but you need to know every nail that was used to build a sentence and why it is there and how it connects, not even exaggerating 6th grade Arabic has you writing line long explanations per word in a phrase

The guy pretending to be an alien is almost as annoying about people complaining about probability.

>>324154359
Quick and simple, memorable, pleasing to say and with meaning behind it.

Figures the ayy sympathizers would talk shit about things they don't know about

Break free brother, you can do it. Trust the watchers. Vigilo Confido

>>324154384
>I of course don't mind cats being banned, because I'm allergic.
If ADVENT was so good, they'd cure your allergy instead of banning cats.
Checkmate, alien shills.

Who /hype/ here?
>not having your first playthrough with a full squad of customized, shemagh wearing snackbars with names taken from ISIS' twitter and modding them to all be rangers for kafir alien executions, reclaiming the planet, banning all alien technology and reinstating the rightful caliphate.
>shiggy

>>324154383
Obviously we stand to gain. By uplifting humanity, we hope to eventually put you on the same tier as us and become our ally.

Do you not realize how many hostiles are out there? If you think that we're somehow a problem then you have a lot to see. By banding together we stand a better chance at survival rather than sticking alone.

We could leave you alone, but in a few years a more powerful force would come, one that wouldn't be so kind as us.

>>324154358
kelly is the author and the comics are meant to be at least partially ironic

>>324146534

I will fite U, U cheeky kunt.

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>>324127601
>still 3 weeks left
at least dankest dungeon coming out soon

>>324154728
They Ayys can't see spoilered text, break free anon, join the resistance and free earth from it tyrants.

Vigilo Confido brother.

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>>324154728
>We could leave you alone, but in a few years a more powerful force would come, one that wouldn't be so kind as us.

>>324131704
biggest shitpost in the history of /v/

>>324154737
>partially
It's from The Onion.

>>324150503
Which dumbass youtuber fell for this?

>>324154957
But can they read cursive?

>>324154384
Animals are outside of our scope, for now.

We are fully committed on helping your species, not the others. Once that job is complete, we can begin on secondary objectives.

>>324154957
If only you knew...

>>324127601
$75 lol

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>>324150503
>they got to play a preview build and you didn't
shit lads should I just become a shitty youtube personality? What whacky gimmick should I use?

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>>324155328
>living in cucknada

>>324155153
They are Ayy Lmaos with guns that made more energy than continents, take a guess if they can decypher fancy doctor writting. They don't know jack shit about coding though, spoiler and other code shit does not compute
>>324155156
Do not lose hope brother, we will win this, hold tight, we will come for you, just you wait.

Vigilo Confido

>>324154728
>Do you not realize how many hostiles are out there?
>We could leave you alone, but in a few years a more powerful force would come, one that wouldn't be so kind as us.


Does the Lion fear the Rabbit? If what you say is true you have made us a target by coming to Earth. If you are being hunted by a more powerful force, Earth and Humanity will be collateral damage when the come to destroy you.
Further more, if what you say is true, let's not forget the deceit surrounding this entire circumstance. Made all the more worse by purposefully keeping the evidence of this from us.

>>324155446
Where's this from, a cutscene? I thought they weren't allowed to show those?

>>324155719
It's from the December trailer

>>324154691
I really hope this game allows me to play ISIS simulator 2016
The more shady the new XCOM is, the better

>>324155992
>tfw suicide vest mod within the first week