You're basically complaining about a problem that doesn't exist. No solo queue game gets played outside of those roles anyway unless one faggot didn't get the role he wanted and retaliated with a forced duo mid or something.
>When almost every character has more personality and spoken lines than any singular champion in LoL.
Incorrect. Also, how the fuck does someone have "more personality"? It varies between a handful of characters between the two. Would you try to fucking argue Io has more personality than someone like Gnar?
Am I seriously the only one who couldn't give a flying fuck about ranked? I just do blind queue all day and do silly metas like Zilean Top, Support Poppy, Jungle Leona, Mid Zac and whatnot. Are some of y'all so deprived you need ranked just to have fun? Come on now.
I tried liking LoL but click simulator was killing it for me. I wish there was a MoBa that was more 3rd person or something where I didn't have to have a contest to see how fast I could click 1 inch in front of my character.
Well, I mean, true. I just find it odd people chase after ranked so zealously, like they think they'll really make a name for themselves. But hey, competition can be healthy I suppose. Who am I to judge what someone enjoys?
>>324125114 My friends do nothing but ranked and are no fun allowed faggots. They're not even that good is the worst part, I could understand playing ranked to get better but they are the definition of "I'm going to blame my team for fucking EVERYTHING" They don't play for fun, and they don't play to git gud, so I have honestly no idea why the fuck they play.
>>324124989 Nigger I said "almost" before saying "every" to entail that not all of them have as much personality as the other heroes do.
And even then LoL unit voices are pretty much simplified to unit commands, taunts, where DotA's got heroes who have lines for purchasing specific items, lines for killing specific heroes, lines for dying to specific heroes, lines for getting map based buffs, lines for being near allies in a lane, lines for predicting how the game will go just because the enemy has a certain hero, lines for predicting how the game will end up, lines for killing certain jungle creeps, lines for talking about their lives.
Here ya go, you asshat. Here's some quotes - older League characters have fewer lines of dialogue. I could present to you re-worked, old characters, but then you'd call me out for cherrypicking again because you're a memespewing faggot.
My point still stands that it drastically varies between characters, and especially so when one games been on the market for about four or so years longer. Of course trying to have a legitimate argument with someone who'll sperg the fuck out about "but muh game is better and yours is shit because I said so!". I feel gross for even bothering with your reply. 6/10
>"I'm going to blame my team for fucking EVERYTHING"
My exact problem playing with a lot of people. In an alternate dimension, I would have gotten into DotA 2 over League simply because my DotA 2 friends decided not to be fucking shitstains. Whenever my friends act like yours on League, I just drop 'em and go into solo. Hope you get some fun games, mate.
My friends started out like this and I mean they were really bad - one nearly got himself banned , but now they are reasonable and blame only themselves, if any of us make a mistake we laugh it off whereas they'd flame eachother before - they've all managed to reach Diamond, not amazing, but which for them having been in Bronze and being like that feels like a miracle.
Maybe I should become a coach and make some skrilla.
>>324124126 LoL doesn't have the paternalistic vision of surrendereing that Dota has.
It's also a game more based on movement and positioning, which can be very fun in its own way.
I have played more than 3k hours of each and I wouldn't go back at lol now, but I have never had as much fun in dota as I've had in lol at some specific moments, I also actually miss plenty of lol characters while honestly the only character I give a fuck about in dota is rubick.
>Presented with argument >Only capable response is to meme it up
Shitposting is still shitposting. It's okay though - people with an irrational hatred towards one game with a superiority complex for their own are too assbackwards to hold real conversation anyways. It's why you're posting here on 4chan, after all.
>>324125812 I'd argue DotA is more about positioning, as it's difficult what with turn rate and the fact that missing a spell is more detrimental than in LoL where it's a bit easier to spam without caring.
>you have to pay for your shitty esports by buying $40 chroma packs (literally skin recolors) and champions (LOL)
Except you can have a full roster of all the characters for free in the time it'd take you to master every character in DotA 2 and, even if not, it doesn't require actual currency to play a champion you want to play. Skins are literally equal to buying cosmetics in DotA 2.
I seriously don't get it. Why do DotA 2 autists always screaming about how their game is superior? What compels them to do this? They all have some innate, driving force that compels them to argue with strangers over the internet in an attempt to convince them to play the game they like. Who the fuck cares? Seriously. Just play your damn game and let people who like someone else play something else. You're like fucking fleas.
When I played DotA 2, I played the same character religiously. I pick a guy I like and stick with them. Most people have a variety of champions they pick, available as they need them.
You DotArds make a bad name for people who enjoy the game. It's bad enough it's infested with cykablat. Y'all have ceased being funny to me, my only reason for even entertaining conversations with you peons. I'm off to sleep. Good night, anons.
>>324126230 >Except you can have a full roster of all the characters for free in the time it'd take you to master every character in DotA 2
You probably wouldnt even be able to own HALF league of cuckolds champions by the time you got to 8k mmr in dota due to how anti-consumer the unlock system is. good thing league is such a braindead easy game so you dont need to play long to get gud.
>Skins are literally equal to buying cosmetics in DotA 2.
apart from you cant customise anything apart from the color, which then requires a $40 chroma pack (LOL)
> I seriously don't get it. Why do DotA 2 autists always screaming about how their game is superior? What compels them to do this? They all have some innate, driving force that compels them to argue with strangers over the internet in an attempt to convince them to play the game they like. Who the fuck cares? Seriously. Just play your damn game and let people who like someone else play something else. You're like fucking fleas.
>being this blown out on an anonymous image board discussing wideo gems
>>324126230 When you see such a shitty p2w clone of a game you have to ask why someone would willingly play it over a free, better alternative. You'll see when you're older and don't feel compelled to stand by your awful purchases.
>>324126512 >You probably wouldnt even be able to own HALF league of cuckolds champions by the time you got to 8k mmr in dota due to how anti-consumer the unlock system is. League player. I agree with this 100%, I am master tier, have 2500~games played and still dont own 10 of the champions. Not to mention runes.
>>324127251 remember, /vg/ was created because of lolcuck like you oh wait you don't know since ur a fucking newfag >>324127450 And that's why each spell in dota is counted You can't just spam your fucking skill in Dota like lol Even your "skill shot" in dota the cd is at least 10s
>>324127450 movement spells make positioning less important as you have a safety net. But I do agree about the movement and fun. Theres just something about dodging all your enemies abilities as vayne and nabbing that penta.
>playing MOBAs unironically HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHHAHAH HAHAHAHA >oh noes it's not my fault i'm losing my lane, it's my mid's fault because i wanted to be mid, not solo offlane waaaaah it's also my safelane's fault because he picked the hero i wanted to pick boo hoo why am i the only good player here? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH If you ACTUALLY think this game is fun, then oh my god HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>324128290 >he just started playing and get paired up with hackers and boosters HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHHAHAH HAHAHAHA >he doesnt have any friend to fill up the party kill urself
>>324128562 are you upset that i offended your so deep and complex game? oh man, it sure is a game changing experience when the enemy picks Riki right? gotta buy that sentry ward during laning phase man such complicated game much wow pffffft HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>324121186 >implying this is a bad thing Meta was inforced in every other aspect of the game already, for YEARS now.
This changes nothing, just eliminates the process of trying to act nice to strangers to not shit on my game with "No I said jungle first!!!" bullshit, and then 3 people lock in a jungle champion with smite, especially in ranked.
This just makes the game less frustrating and I'm thankful for it
Of course you and 98% of this thread already shat on LoL regardless, but for those who actually play the game this is a good change.
>>324129478 I'm just wandering through. Been permabanned since season 1 for reasons. Ain't got no stake in the argument.
Given that Riot made it clear even when I was playing that the meta was not to be deviated from, this change IS good. I mean, it would be better if they had ever allowed true freedom to play as you wish. I'd also probably not be banned, lol.
But since they have made it crystal clear from the outset that they'd enforce a meta, this is a hell of a lot better than having to go and actively ban motherfuckers trying new shit.
>>324129478 It also stifles creativity skill and a shifting meta. Playing heroes to the opposite of railroaded item paths *and winning* is one of the only true fun parts of league of legends. that and emote spam.
League gets shit on for a reason. You ignore legitimate criticisms of it for another reason. I could point out both reasons, but you don't want to hear that, because after 2000 hours who wants to?
>>324129880 >telling players how to play if the game is designed around being played a specific way then there's nothing wrong with that if you want to play off meta weird team comps you can still play blind pick or queue up with a team
>>324129713 Exactly. There is a plethora of other ASSFAGGOTS people can enjoy that are more free form. I like watching and understand Dota2, I keep up with its patches and so on, but I don't like that "jungling" is a very small part of the game and you mostly have 2 support roles instead. It's more of a fun thing to do, rather than something everyone in your time would like over having a 2nd support.
Different tastes for different people.
>>324129880 >>324130078 Sure, but this specific thread talks about a new thing that changes nothing and is irrelevant to the forced meta conversation.
Meta has always been forced in LoL through how many roles each character is good at, to items, to changes to the map (towers being stronger or weaker, to discourage even lane swapping a few seasons back, and more shit like that), to the reporting system and self-policing in the community where you'll get banned for playing Shaco ADC in ranked 20 times in a row (something you can still do with this system, btw)
No one deviated from the META already for various reasons. This changes nothing. No one's stopping you from getting the Jungle role, chosing a support champion instead and going to mid lane to "assist" your carry. You can do this now as you could 2 years prior. You'll get reported now just as you would back then.
You don't play League. I do it more to chat with friends over skype, this just eliminates outside frustrations with the one or two randoms we have in our party.
One of them you get to play The other you get to play, but every 3 minutes a prompt will come up and you'll have to press a random key on your keyboard or else you'll end up losing the game and have your teammates call you cyka
What does that add to the game? Absolutely nothing
Thats DotA2 and its "mechanics"
The game is so unbalanced and garbage that a team of amerifats with a reaction time in the 3 second mark due to their cholesterol won millions of dollars from the donations of children on steam who beg their parents to buy compendium / compendium points to get m-m-m-muh legendary courier
>>324130543 The image with this is my Dota 2 activity trends. The gaps represent when i wasn't playing dota and played league. I do play league, even today. In fact, I've played it longer than you, since its fucking beta. Long enough to get bored with the bland meta, the community of entitled brats who think that them and their triqueue get to decide who does what and throwing report tantrums if the solos have a problem with that, and most importantly, to get bored with their hero design. After long enough, and at high enough elo, it doesnt matter who you play or how you play it, you can win in normals with whatever you want, what ever is fun. But you can be banned for that, because the self policing meta is a self policing system reliant on the community, and moba communities are shit. The way you get around that problem is by playing with friends, and you'd better have some good fucking friends if you want to queue up after being in diamond 1 before they even came out with a 'challenger' tier, without them getting frustrated from the people they get stuck against when they queue with you. I like dota because it challenges me. League does not. Casuals get out, ree.
>>324125286 or the only good esport title out there, csgo. in csgo you actually spend 100% of the time playing against other players, unlike mobas where the first 20 minutes is about clicking AI controlled mobs. and youre not even supposed to fight them, you just want to hit them once, when they're low health. nice fucking game, snorefest.
>>324132567 You lose your promo, the next time you're up for promotion it gives you a free win. I don't know if it stacks, but I think it does. If you get demoted, the next time you reach your promos for your past division you're automatically placed back in.
>>324132125 No, that post wasnt about proving the change as bad it was because you pissed me off by telling me I was an intentional feeder who didnt play the game and therefore didnt know what I was talking about.
As far as the change goes i already posted what I think about that. It stifles that creative aspect that is one of the only things league still has going for it. After a point it doesnt matter which mid you pick, all the ap mids play the same way. It gets old. One of leagues biggest strengths and weaknesses is that it doesnt punish players for mistakes. In dota if you pick against the meta and go mid with wisp it doesnt matter if you are 8k a peruvian could show up to lane with a burst damage hero and make you go through 55 minutes of hell. In league not so much. But you are 4x as likely to get flamed in league for it and reported. Win OR lose.
The gist of it, is that this system makes it -even harder- to enjoy the game.
this overreliance on flash is stupid. remove summoner skills, change them or make them baseline, throughout all the seasons flash was the most used, its fucking broken compared to others. it was so good other summoner skills were killed off because of it.
In CS:GO, a weak player can still be covered so long as everyone else does their jobs and makes sure to kill the other team or plant the bomb.
In LoL, you could be doing extremely well as an individual player yet still lose because one or two retards are either off in a corner AFK, feeding intentionally because he decided his team was going to lose anyways, or just troll to make people angry so he can report them for harassment.
Don't get me wrong, incompetence will fuck over any team in an online match but at least in most other games, the match isn't decided by whether or not you get paired with retards who will make you lose game just because they can and there's nothing you can do about it.
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