Rts master race

Well I'm sure it doesn't qualify as obscure or underated but my friend just gifted me Rise of Nations: Extended Edition recently and we've been having a lot of fun playing it. Reminds me of Age of Empires meets Civ. Not sure how I missed out on it back in the day.

I'm not an RTS pro or anything, mostly just play the campaigns and custom games desu.

>playing on a huge map but my enemy Doesnt know where my 12 range longbowmen are
>WHOS ATTACKING MY VILLAGERS

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Why haven't you played this?

>>324114191
Is that some Urban Assault?

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>>324113570
There was a really good korean one I played over 13 years ago at a friends place, never found it again.

All I remember is you could upgrade a normal soldier unit into a mounted hero unit if you wanted to.

Any koreans here?

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>love RTS
>suck at RTS
>starting to dread playing COH2 with people because I suck so bad and I don't want to ruin their experience

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I loved this game

Such a pity that all the big RTS brands are dead. Starcraft, AoE, Warcraft, C&C, Red Alert... Hell, turn-based strategy is more alive, and despite me liking TBS quite a lot, I'm astonished at the level to which RTS games have been destroyed.

Who /supcom/ here?

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>>324116620
i played the demo.

>>324117140
Aeon master race.

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>>324116924
Mein Neger, I played the shit out of that game. The AI was hilarious.

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>>324116918
I can kinda relate to that

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not obscure but i really want a sequel or spiritial successor

>>324114191
Damn i love urban assault

>>324117150
lady bugs were pretty fun when i was a kid, made tons of them even tho they sucked.

>>324117140
>>324117198
what did you guys think of supcom 2?

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Only played the demo when i was younger, Got it from a PC Powerplay Mag.

>>324117298
It was my introduction to the series so I don't think I hate it merely as much as everyone else. FA is miles better, though.

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Guys is the RTS genre gonna die?

SC finished.

CoC complete and utter EA dogshit now.

New Warcraft never.

All other existing IPs are either dead or copy Clash of Clans microtransaction multiplayer bullshit for that sweet f2p money printing machine.

Is there any hope for the future?

>>324114191
I played it. Never owned it though unfortunately.

>>324117298
It's ok. Not as bad as /v/ tends to say it was, just not as good as 1/FA/Total Annihilation.
Still better than C&C imo.

>>324117234

Played this soooo much as a kid, would also love to see a well done spiritual succesor.

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>>324113570
Who wants fort building and siege warfare?

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Not exactly obscure, but sequel/remake/remaster when?

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>>324117480
i played pic related a few years ago, don't know if it's obscure but i rarely see it posted

>>324117521
To me Stronghold was always a comfy city builder/tower defence game over an RTS. Probably because I suck at the actual attacking part of it.

>>324117552
Who actually played that game.

>>324117624
It's not rare, Really good game as well. First game was great as well and had more units.

Still play the second game today with friends

>>324113570
Shit i remember that game.

>>324117653
Everyone sucked at attacking, It was a matter of constructing the perfect city that could repel attack but still maintain order.

>>324117669
>Who actually played that game.

I did for one.
Vinci masterrace

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>>324113570
Overall, Cossacks has been my favorite RTS.

>>324117234
>>324117490
wasn't black and white kinda that?

>tfw the RTS genre was killed by ASSFAGGOTS

Dead genre

>>324117894
>ASSFAGGOTS
?Explain. Explain? Explain!

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any interesting sci-fi RTS that might've flown under the radar worth checking out?

>>324113858
RoN is fantastic, glad you're enjoying it anon. I'm kind of in the same boat, played RTS all my life but never really got especially good at them. Try Rise of Legends next, it's an underrated classic

>>324117917
Aeons of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides

>>324117920
Man I tried to watch Flash Gordon on Netflix the other night and it was just too painful.

>>324117920
>>324117920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfc_CrwiE4Y

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>>324117920
There is this.

I don't know if it's good or not. I haven't played it yet.

>>324117669
Reporting in. Loved Rise of Legends. I still have a poster from the copy of PC Zone that reviewed it.

>>324118045
That was the only part worth watching.

>>324117278
same

QUESTION OF THE THREAD:
What was the best version of Hell March? 1, 2, or 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5X69vREAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scjy-jQWTQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nFKPVfDrgU

Kingdom under fire anyone?

>>324118093
Indeed.

>>324118046
OST is done by Frank Klepacki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw4WAhyi1uY

>>324118158
1.

>>324117840
B&W felt very different

>>324118016
Hello Reddit maybe The Force Awakens is more your style

>>324117298
The upgrade tree is cool, graphic is alright, the rest is shit though

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Not obscure, don't care. One of my favourite games of all time and it's sad that both the series and genre is dead.

>>324118295
Hello /lgbt/
I happen to prefer movies that don't look like they came out some kind of Richard Simmons disco fantasy.

>>324117425
We've got act of aggression, battlefleet gothic and deserts of kharak coming up at least

>>324118382
>tfw you can only get the digital version on Origin now

>>324117920
sins of a solar empire
empire at war
endless space

>>324118530
>endless space
but it's 4X

>>324117131
Fucking Mobas. I hope Starcraft 2 is selling well, I really want a Warcraft 4.

>>324117751
I've always loved Cossacks, great game.

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>you will never become wealthy as fuck so you can assemble your own RTS studio and work without a profit motive
What would your dream RTS be like?

>>324118478
I'm sure gay disco parties is something you have a lot of personal experience with to have made that connection with lavish movie sets

>>324118658
>Implying you need money to realise your dreams.
http://www.openra.net/

>>324118676
no u

>>324118716
you don't need money, but you need time and skill, money buys both and I don't have the latter

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How do I get over ladder nerves in SC2

Whenever I play I just get frustrated that I'm doing shit wrong and want to quit

>RTS is dead
Not really.
Its soul lives on in superior MOBA games.

>>324118658
I'd try some interesting new mechanic I think.

Not that I have anything against the originals but there's a need for some originality I think.

The other night, I was thinking of a propaganda/uprising style RTS. The primary resource would be recruiting civilians to your cause and secondary resources of arming them with revenue sources. It'd take place within an urban area and players would seize control of objectives like banks and tv stations. It'd start with most citizens neutral and would end in urban combat between militias armed to the teeth.

>>324118795
Fair enough. I guess to actually answer your question.

I'd make a Total War-like game with the sole purpose of lighting a fire up under CA's ass, I don't care if it's better. I also don't care if it's not an RTS.

>>324118634
I switched to MOBAs after they killed the servers for Command And Conquer 3. I didn't like Red Alert 3, and I'm not good enough for Starcraft.

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>>324118987
>MOBA games

>>324119010
I think a rather than another historical 4x/rts like Total war, I would like to see a sci-fi 4x/rts like a combo of GalCiv/MoO and Homeworld/Nexus.

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Who /rotr/ here?

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>>324116918
it's fine just play comp stomp with friends

Guys mind helping out? There was an RTS that I played as a kid and somehow lost the disc to it.
You could either play as the Aliens or the Humans, you got resources from lava pits if I remember right. The Alien resource unit had a big brain that would fly up if it was collecting resources while I think the human resource unit was a moon rover or something similar to it. I also remember that the humans could get a cyborg. Oh and you could only upgrade your base and buy buildings for it, so no units for building.

>>324118658
I'd like a WWII RTS that approaches sim levels of autism (something like close combat for those of you who have played it), and instead of training units you have to request them from off-screen and your request will be accepted/denied based on the enemy resistance to stop you from building a huge tankmass and blobbing your way to the enemy HQ.

OR!

A modern warfare RTS where you have to deal with whiny journalists who get uppity every time you accidentally call in an airstrike on a hospital because your intel was off.

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Aurora technically counts as a 4x, but it's sort of genre transcendent
Can we talk about it here?

Dota 2 takes more skills than every RTS game.

>>324119357
>and your request will be accepted/denied based on the enemy resistance to stop you from building a huge tankmass and blobbing your way to the enemy HQ.
That's actually a really good idea especially if you can disable it on lower difficulties

>>324119336
Dark colony

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>>324118518
>tfw I still have both the original and the deluxe edition with Zero Hour on disc

>>324116813
I would try and ask on teamliquid.net, if I were you

>>324119084
Thinks about it, Moba cuts out all the filler shit of having to build up an economy and jumps straight into the action, not only that but you can play it with 4 other friends, while RTS is usually 1v1.

Moba is the superior genre unless you're a friendless aspie.

>>324116813
Battle Realms?

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>>324113570
>obscure

Jew rang?

>>324119427
Some 4x games are sort of rts like Endless Space and Star Ruler.

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I have never met anyone else who played this and i fucking love it

>>324118625
I played it million years ago.
Is it good or just nostalgia?

I recall it being pretty unique, but the magic mechanics felt badly though out even to my early teenage self.

>>324119710
3 just adds more races/heroes and is better in every way. But yeah, why the fuck has no one ever done anything similar?

>>324119574
damn, I love this shit, sadly my current laptop can't run it too well

Somehow I found it much better than SupCom. I don't know why though.

>>324119617
But Endless Space is turn based
Aurora is kind of a hybrid of both

>>324119829
Is it the fact it has customizable commanders and no tech tree bullshit?

>>324119904
Oops. I meant Distant Worlds.

>>324117552
I was a little iffy about Legends when I started playing. I was a massive fan of Rise of Nations and I wasn't sure if I was going to like it.

Even if the plot was kind of stupid, Legends was fun as fuck in the end.

>>324119574
This is one of the most boring, generic and unassuming names ever.
How do they expect not to be obscure when they name a game/mod "zero-k"?

I played that back then when it had "annihilation" in name so I know what is it all about and that name manages to discourage even me.

>>324119617
>Endless Space
How? It's turn based and in the combat all you do is play rock paper scissors.

>>324119483
Oh man, thanks! I have been looking for it for years.

>>324120125
see >>324119965

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>>324117719
>Not selling all your starting items and rushing mace men

its literally the only way to win some of the crusade maps, its borderline horse shit but I still love it

>>324118836
Keep playing. Back when they had the 2 week beta phase, i only did a total of 10 MM. But i was about to have a heart attack each time.

>>324118996
Makes me want to play Republic the Revolution.

>>324119960
I think it's the units and yes the Com's variety is better too.
I like how there are spiderbots with entirely different tactics from the tanks or cloaky bots. And it's not just their base(as in the ability to scale walls or jump) but their means of attack. That amphibious(or was it hover?) gauss thing penetrating rows of enemies and the spiderbots' dumbfire rocket unit or the EMP spider.

Every shit is different and it's so cool when your team works together with different factories supporting each other.

>>324113570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kSSdJOMVRY

Interesting and original plot in RTS wtf?
This game was fucking amazing

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A fun little WW2 rts

>>324117425
>cossacks 3

>>324120314
Never heard of that one.

Kinda what I'm aiming for but also not. I was aiming for something like Wargame or Rise of Nations but on a smaller scale in a city.

>>324119172
Contra masterrace.

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>>324119710
Warlords on Amiga was fun with my cousin

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>>324120283
Not him, but the worst thing about that game is, when i stop playing for about 2-3 weeks i literally loose all my game instincts and carefully built triggers which makes me regress back to silver league levels of play.
Will this stop happening if i keep on playing?

>RTS

I'm so glad this genre is dead.

Every single game is rush rush rush, no matter what the title is.

Anyone remember Sudden Strike series? That shit was the bomb back in my day. Just look at this fucking intro. Badass as hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHY8ndFaUw

>>324120754
Same. I tried to do 2v2 some weeks ago, but i´ve forgotten all about builds and i was slow as shit.

i use to play low diamond zerg on release. But it was stressful.

>>324116620
Played this on PS, it was an experience for sure.

Every time someone starts an RTS thread we all get to be reminded how absurdly loose /v/'s definition of the genre is.

If you find yourself raising an eyebrow at some of the titles posted, just remember that these are the same people who might say "Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines" when asked for their favorite first person shooter.

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>>324113570
MACMILLAN.

>>324120864
Got the first one as a demo on a german pc mag. Pretty fun. The best types of those RTS are still Ground control, WiC and homeworld.

>>324117552

Literal god tier setting/music.

My god its a rough diamond but a diamond none-the-less

AoM tale of the dragon is out in like 2 weeks.

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>>324118996
I want to make a RTS that controls in 3D. It takes place in some blame!-type megastructure, right, and by scrolling in and out you don't zoom in and out, instead you move up and down throughout the map. The map is divided into levels, not discrete like the over/underworld in HOMM3 for example, just a 3D map that is sliced into sections to control easier, you can still have ramps and such, but the terrain is designed to be controllable. The control elevation sets the prioritized level of control, not the absolute, so if you want your unit to jump down from a large height you don't have to scroll to his level and select him then scroll down to the ground and tell him to jump, you just click on the guy far up and click on the ground below. Units that you have vision over would display an outline throughout any terrain.

So you can have units on one floor of the map, and then you scroll down and there's a floor below that also has units, and there's a stairwell somewhere that units can walk up and down between floors(dynamically, it's not a garrison-type portal), and there can be holes in the second floor so units can reveal the 3D fog of war and shoot at each other.
Or there could be a large (like 20 meters) vertical wall, and units can be knocked down from it, and take damage proportional to the fall distance, or they can jump willingly, but not jump up because they lack jump power, or certain units could walk on walls so they can navigate that way. If you have a motorcycle-type unit you could ramp it off ramps, if you have a flying unit it moves to the point you order it in the current selection level, if you have a small unit you could sneak it through smaller spots, like vents. Basically any form of action by a NPC possible in a FPS game or similar would be possible by a unit here, and the map geometry could be practically anything as well. Would be a tactical RTS like DoW 2 though because supcom-scale battles in a complex environment would be weird.

>>324120964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Vmf3u0D1A

World in Conflict was THE bomb. I can't understand why it didn't become more popular than it did. It was so fantastic. I played it really hardcore, made it up to the top 100 in the ladders, probably top 50 when it came to air.

>>324117552
Absolutely loved the shit out of this game, there needs to be a remaster or something. There needs to be.

>>324120953
>Mudslime does it, they're a terrorist
>American does it, they're a hero

How the fuck do I get mass in SupCom

I swear to god it takes a million years just to get a tech 2 extractor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ior9JoUE0
4 MORE DAYS WOOPWOOP

>>324121191
I would say it also has one of the best single player of any rts.

I only played it casual online, getting kicked more than enough for getting 2x arty, rather than AA.

>>324121306
Cannot wait to see the maps during night time, going by how Gamespot made it sound like..lights and everything that lights up the dunes.

>>324120937

If it means I can hijack Company of Heroes threads to talk about Men of War, then so be it.

This genre and it's subgenre's need any discussion they can get at this point.

>>324121191
WiC's singleplayer campaign is amazing, the story and presentation are wonderful.

What surprised me more was Bannon. I hated him from day one, I never EVER expected to actually be sad about his death, or to care about him as a character at all. WiC was the last place I expected something like this.

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Counter action was fun. Shame nobody remembers it.

>>324117920
Well, i just started playong lambada wars with a mate, head crab shelling rebels is a fucking blast.

>>324121306
Sorry to say, but it looks boring

Even the developers sound bored in their interview

Its just a slightly more pretty but super shallow Supcom

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Please be excited

>>324117701
I wish I knew how to play this game

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>>324121617
Looks like little johnny never played Ground Control

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>>324121683
Stand aside.

>>324121764
Did you read the lengthy steam guide?

>>324121845
n-no

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Lego Rock Raiders

>>324121845

What is this? Is AoM now getting expansion packs too as well as AoE2?

>>324121920

Man I remember playing this as a kid, so cool and nice atmosphere with all the mining equipment.

How do you get this running on windows 7 64 bit? Is there a good piratble version out anywhere? I have it on disk but it wont even install.

>>324121917
Well you better go and read it.

Earth 2150 did it all right

probarly one of the best RTS in history

>Dat snow falling on tanks and covering them

>>324118634
>I hope Starcraft 2 is selling well

Like two weeks after LotV was released, it had around 2000 viewers on Twitch.

I hate to break it to you, but the Starcraft franchise is dead.

I wonder if it would have been different if they had allowed LAN play, so that there would have been a larger fanbase of the game from the start (with people from poor countries who pirated the game). As time goes on, the lost revenue from a few people pirating should be offset by all the additional people playing the game and watching esports, like in Brood War.

>>324121983
>What is this? Is AoM now getting expansion packs too as well as AoE2?

Yes, They're releasing the Chinese. They've only shown the human units so far. Standard Cho ko nu and halbardiers. And several cavalry units (light, heavy, ranged). Only myth units we've heard of are white tigers and terracotta warriors.

Comes with a campaign which isnt related to fall of the trident or new Atlantis. Though i don't think it will be that great.

Theyve worked with some of the high elo players for balance.

>>324117610

Oh shit, I loved this game and the idea behind it with the map control mechanic. Too bad nobody ever made a sequel with updated graphics and the same mechanic.

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>>324120356

>scallop drops
>BD rushes
>rez coms
>dirtbag spam
>sythe rushes

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Not a single word of KKND 1 or 2? Fuck you people.

>>324121825
I hope the Division goes well for them, even if i dont intend to play it.

I just want them to make a new World in conflict, and maybe even a GC

>>324121825
I did but dont know why that would be relevant

>>324122473
I had Krossfire on playstation 1! That fucking resolution and scroll speed tho!

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>>324122470
anon, no
it runs like shit but I still want to play

>>324113858

Probably my favourite aspect of RoN is Wonders aren't for a cheap victory, but for bonuses.

>>324119357
>A modern warfare RTS where you have to deal with whiny journalists who get uppity every time you accidentally call in an airstrike on a hospital because your intel was off.

Been done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_Zone

"Conflict Zone's main innovation was the use of propaganda, which was crucial in the game: acting in a way that brought public attention against the player's side made the game harder."

>>324122631
>it runs like shit but I still

>spring engine
>running like shit

Just turn everything down to low senpai

New Homeworld DoK gameplay i belive

http://www.polygon.com/2016/1/15/10776486/homeworld-deserts-of-kharak-gameplay-preview

>>324119710
Used to play that with my brothers.

>>324122826
dont get your hopes up

making a strategy game requires a competent developer

gearbox sucks

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>>324121191
>mfw I have 3 copies of the game incl my first copy, soviet assault complete and collectors edition with that berlin wall rock
>I browsed the Massgate forums everyday for latest bantz and custom maps/movies
>I used to have bantz with the small clan I was in
>I beta tested community maps with MiR, Gearhead and some other devs that were regulars on the forums

Kinda sad what happened to the game. The multiplayer community was great, and the multiplayer features (active clan scene/features, well featured forum, fully featured player profiles etc) were really fleshed out too. I feel like having 20 minute games with that rock-paper-scissors balance was really comfy but got old eventually, especially when they'd play the same maps over and over.

A part of me kind of died when all Massive Entertainment did after the ubisoft acquisition was make assassins creed DLC and far cry 3 co-op modes, I'm happy that they're doing The Division but not sure if they will pull it off. Idk if Ubisoft own the Ground Control and World in Conflict IP's though and ubisoft will prob never want to make non shit RTT/RTS games anyway

>>324122994
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_Zone

Gearbox is just publishing though, isn't it? I thought the devs are pretty much old Relic guys.

I'm moderately hopeful for this. I fucking love HW setting.

Is PA: Titans any good apart from bugs and devs being massive jews?

>>324122994
Gearbox gave them permission to use the Homeworld ip for Shipbreakers.

>>324122473

Would it be possible to play this again with a DOS emulator or something?

I want to build another Grim Reaper.

>>324123068
Pirate it

>>324123023
The multiplayer map design was so well done. Shame about so few winter levels.

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>>324123056
Gearbox is only doing some PR and QA the entire development of the game is being handled by Blackbird Interactive.

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Dark Omen was pretty fun. Plus it had this cool motherfucker in it.

>>324123093
Yes, you can. You can also buy them at GOG if you would like that - or just download the GOG copies from somewhere.

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part 3 never

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>>324122707
I don't get it either. Runs like SupCom if not worse

How's the Call of Warhammer mod for Medieval II: Total War

>>324120953
Powell did nothing wrong

>>324117610
>>324122423
There are sequels to Z, on steam right now.


The only issue is that they are dogshit.

get open Z or whatever it's called if you wanna play, as it's much better and higher resolution.

>>324123153
There were a few winter levels, I remember the there was quarry, radar (that tug of war map), that map with the train station where bannon kills the civies and the comfy christmas map, cascade falls. A bit of a shame some of the maps were designed for tug of war or assault though, people would only play them every so often because domination was so better and less frustrating

>>324113570

My boss is an old dude that liked command and conquer back in the day.

I said I'd look into an rts for him because his son sold his xbox and he can't play red alert anymore.

Whats a good rts in the setting of current times military that will run on an older laptop (4 - 5 years old)

>>324117920
Sunage battle for esylum
Atrox the starcraft coone

>>324123392
>it runs like shit
>integrated graphics
laugh my butt off sempai desu

>>324124019
Generals (GLA = ISIS etc)

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>>324113570
Posting obscure rts

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Anyone played this BR Starcraft?

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I just found out that they officially closed the servers for World in Conflict and removed Massgate, IT WAS ONLY LAST MONTH AS WELL, I feel so sad now, hold me /v/

>>324124253
Dota 2 runs damn fine so I don't really know what to say about this

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Anyone ever play netstorm?

Such a unique game, can't really think of anything similar.

>>324124674
Oh shit I remember this from a very long time ago. It was really weird. Always wanted to play the full version.

I love cosy 2D RTS graphics, obviously it's not an RTS but HoMM3 is one of my favourites. The fog of war is stars it's so lovely.

Alright, who /Serpent Clan/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxfnU3tW0Uk

>>324122473
The overall game balance is complete madness but you really gotta love how hilariously broken those forgotten relic units are.

I remember enjoying KKND back in the day, the make your custom unit thing was great, I used to just give every unit the suicide bomb thingy for fun

>>324117361
What was this called, I recognise the UI and that barracks building. Seven Kingdoms?

>>324125516
It is.

>>324124397
My mate actually tried to play the campaign, shit is very tedious, especially when you have to pay for unit maintenance so their damage values wouldn't drop to abysmal levels.

>>324116813
>All I remember is you could upgrade a normal soldier unit into a mounted hero unit if you wanted to.

That's too broad a spectrum since that was quite normal back in the day before the genre lost all its creativity and settled for a pretty bad game of RPS+Gun.

Battle Realms is one such game, so is No Man's Land.

Is Steel Panthers: World at War any good?

>>324116620
So underrated. The MP was infested with cheating Russians last time I tried the open source version.
>>324116918
You lose, lose, lose until you learn something and then you lose some more. RTS losses can be really demoralizing. And crushing players worse than you is pointless.

>>324119516

TBT does it better: it does all the same without cutting you down to one unit which can end up a worthless waste of space if the enemy side has counters and none of the units it counters.

>>324125653
I learned that the hard way the first time I massed the dominators, things did not go as I planned.

>>324119710
This game isn't even that unknown.
I bet most of us played it.
Only played WBC2 and 3 tho

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>>324117425
I blame E-Sports and retard devs that make games under casuals that don't want to git gud.

On the other hand SCII is broken and doesn't have enough variety to experiment with.

>>324118046
The only things good about GG is the OST and the premise.

The rest is something I'd consider a relic of the past and why RTS games are dying.

>>324118658
>What would your dream RTS be like?

Acquire the rights for Metal Fatigue and make a sequel that has as many anime mecha tropes, but avoids or alters the cliches.

>Three 40 missions long campaigns with a magnitude of ways to finish them + a forth secret campaign.
>The way you choose to finish a mission will actually have results that will affect future missions.
>Combots now have more parts to be built out of and can be further upgraded with modules that further increase their capabilities.
>Combot Crew classes that allow for the Combots to gain unique abilities or alter how certain parts and modules function.
>More shenanigans like earthquake generators, assault teleporters, fortress buildings, Combot air-lifts, aircraft carriers for aircraft and jet-Combots.
>More differences among the factions. Not just in Combot parts.
>A commander skill-tree for skirmish/multiplayer that allows to choose to be either a assault specialist, a expert defender or a economical juggernaut. Each skill-tree set differs from faction to faction, the skills are not connected and do not require investing points into previous skills, and allows to freely choose what stuff you want to invest into (in fact you only need to acquire a level and the particular skills get unlocked). Additionally some of them would allow for unique vehicles, buildings and combot parts.
>A texture editor that allows you to personalize your army making them stand out in skirmish/multiplayer.

>>324119710
Battlecry IV never...

>>324117669
I played it this morning.

Some tuning to hero powers and the way economy scales, and voiced lines instead of groaning to give units more character. That's literally all it would need to stand with W3 and RA2.

>>324120368
Don't forget a campaign with more branching than all BioWare games since 2007 combined.

Too bad the guys behind it are only working on ArmA now.

>>324122473
Muh nigga

>>324126175
Would the Campaigns be like in SCII (as in you choose your missions the way you like them)?

>>324119710
I want to summon that one guy in earlier rts-threads that found hilarious ways to break this game.

What are you up to now, you glorious faggot? Is a Ssrathi dragonslayer commanding the Fey still the most bullshit thing?

>>324126394
>Too bad the guys behind it are only working on ArmA now.
Actually, the most of team is with Vávra now, working on Kingdom Come. Or at least the key personnel are.

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I never saw anyone exept me mentioning it on /v/.

>>324121191
>I can't understand why it didn't become more popular than it did.

It was super popular back when it first came out but then the base building fags killed it.
They made up shit like RTT designation, threw shit at the game and so, despite the Soviet Assault improving everything, most people never got it because they were turned off by the bad word of mouth from those alphafaggots (I understand liking different things, I also prefer games with some base building but what people pulled off here, spreading doom and gloom about the genre dying out to consolified RTTs to harm the game... that is just inexcusable faggotry).

Anyone remember than WW1 mod for RA2?

>>324126753
I played that, actually not bad at all.

Got the box around somewhere

what if Nintendo made a Super Smash Bros style RTS game? one where the "race" you play as would be a nintendo franchise and you could choose between Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid etc

that could revive the genre imo

>>324126486
>Would the Campaigns be like in SCII (as in you choose your missions the way you like them)?

Add to this branchings based on the decisions you made and in what sequence you undertook the missions, then it would impact the story.

Like you have a choice:
>Destroy a Mil-Agro storage base that has its defenses damaged or a research lab.
>You choose to destroy the base, yet the mission where you have to destroy the lab starts with the enemy having better, more powerful parts for their Combots.
>Choose to destroy the lab, and the mission where you need to destroy the storage base starts with the enemy better prepared since they fixed their stuff.

>>324126753
Literally StarCraft with submarines. Fun to boot.

>>324122280
>I wonder if it would have been different if they had allowed LAN play

No.
The game is simply 6 fucking years old by now.
Even Brood War died out outside of a few thousand hardcore fans in the west in a matter of about a year and a half, completely dying off when RoC got released but 4 years later.

These guys seem to delude themselves by believing the game has always had a massive population outside SK or that it can be kept up indefinitely just like WoW.

If they actually had any actual competition, the game would have been dead in the water by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_f8UFv_Ytc

this song is GOAT (it's RTS related)

post elite RTS soundtracks I guess

>>324127218
So many hours spend in lan on the Maze map, and building maps in war2edit

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Stronghold is fucking intense, I feel like I'm creating something smart but then the AI come before I can build anything meaningful, or it seems I struggle to produce the resources I need, and I just get stomped. How do I Stronghold? I don't like micro, just want to build a comfy castle and watch it actually survive.

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Speaking of games, which are your favorite original concepts that actually worked well in practice, but never caught on?

I'd go with Battleforge.

>>324127409
Build a wall
Fill it with archers/crossbowmen
Win

>>324127409
towers with archers

>>324127518
>>324127540
Yup, done that. I can't remember what mission I got stuck on but I went pure archers since I couldn't seem to get the resources for anything else, still got wiped.

>>324127457
Pity it's dead.

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Can RTT come too?

>>324127409
1. get as much stone as possible
2. sell it
3. buy bows and crossbows and leather
4. square towers with the turret
5. fill with archers and crossbowmen
6. pikemen and pitch

literally easy: the game

unless you face the wolf

>>324117751
>towers outside the gates

That makes zero sense, you could just send some guys and rush the towers, use the towers to fire against the town itself. Red trapped himself by doing this. This is using real life logic and not game logic though.

>>324127457
>>324127652
Loved the game, tried getting my account back because of their shitty merge once and could never play again.

Those single red raptor rush at game start
Those blue tower spams.

The issue was that the game was not casual enough in MP.
You had to follow a meta and it was way too punishing to not follow the usual builds

>>324127712
forgot to add that you need to make like 8 woodcutting posts, and make alot of iron factories and sell that stuff too

grow the stuff need to make ale and tax your people when they like you

also MAKE BREAD its the best food option in the game

>>324117234
SHAKA!

any rts where macro > micro?

>>324127610
plan the castle a bit better. Lock the gates.

>>324127996
Kohan series.

Almost zero micro.

Goddamnid I just want to play Startopia but GOG and Steam have bugged shit versions which I can't fucking run on a computer past the year 2002

>>324127996
Supreme commander, I think? Maybe?

>>324117387
>>324117451
>>324118371
I´m almost moved to tears here, not because I supposedly love the game so much, but because there is only level headed and non-obnoxious response to the mere mention of it.

RTS-/v/, you are pretty alright.

>>324118530
>endless space
And you are also okay, if slightly confused.

>>324127996
>any rts where macro > micro?
There is an almost forgotten but brilliant RTS called "Kohan" (Immortal sovereign or expansion-alone Ahriman's Gift) that contains virtually no micro to speak off, instead focuses on macro and large scale strategy.
It has it's issues, balance and mechanic wise, but it's still an amazing title.
Just avoid the sequel. Kohan 2 is shit and not even worth picking up.

>>324128056
What? Bro, I have it on steam and haven't noticed anything.
Tell me what I should look for

>>324127018
>Even Brood War died out outside of a few thousand hardcore fans in the west in a matter of about a year and a half

Bullshit, back in 2003-4 it was the most played game on the internet even ahead of counterstrike.

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Fucking loved this game.

Really enjoyed beam weapons, Ion weapons a shit.

I wish there was more zerg style factions based on spreading like a plague.
Spreading creep all over the map was always the best part.

>>324128142
>Kohan 2 is shit and not even worth picking up.

Calling it shit would be a severe understatement.

Yeah, it does expand on certain factions like the Drauga or those ork/elf guys that live in the mountains, but the whole darn thing is a filthy StarCraft clone with a shitload of the thing the game was notable for altered for the worse.

>>324128185
It's that fucking resolution issue I can't deal with. Can't even see the options or whatever

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>>324127996
just about all of them except like Men of War, CoH and WC3

>>324128275
>but the whole darn thing is a filthy StarCraft clone
WARcraft clone. It's a painful attempt to ride the Warcraft 3 popularity. I've spend hundreds of hours on Kohan 1, and I've quit Kohan 2 after a few tutorial missions. The art style alone was hideous enough for me to cringe (I still maintain that Warcraft 3 is on the list of top ten ugliest games ever made, and Kohan 2 managed to somehow look similar yet worse).
When I noticed how much the guttered the core expanding mechanics, I just gave up entirely.

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My friend wants to get back into videogames via RTS games, he used to play the shit out of Age of Empires and Age of Mythology and is looking for similar games (similar amount of micro and setting somewhat historic), any recommendations?

>>324128281
What resolution do you have?
I'm running on 1280x1024 just fine.

>>324126793
I feel like it was a pretty good period for PC games and RTS games around 2007-2009, we had CoH that set the benchmark for RTT games, world in conflict, supreme commander, command and conquer 3, Red alert 3 came out etc. The RTT trend and games dumbing down and trying to get the console crowd (world in conflict almost did this) was kinda gay though. World in Conflict had a pretty active community though, I miss the times when people got hype over RTS games

>>324128515
Cossacks 3 when it releases NEVER EVER

>>324119710
mah boy

>>324116924
Fuck I played this, name?

>>324128423
>WARcraft clone

Darn. Forgot about that part. But seriously what were they thinking? What devs think it's a good idea to alter a game with unique mechanics to look like a SC/WC/AoE clone? These practices is what killed off RTS in the first place.

But if you want an RTS that looks nice, try out Armies of Exigo.

It's fantasy StarCraft (not WarCraft due to the fact that the mechanics are much similar with StarCraft) with really sweet models and some nice extras.

>>324128665
Lords of The Realms 2.

>>324127457
>>324127652
>>324127761
Look up "BFReborn".

>>324124335
great game

Did that old master drive game Megalomania count as an RTS?

>>324117920
There is one RTS from my childhood that I can't find anywhere.

Similar to C&C Tiberian Sun, it featured a leveling system for each unit and you could carry the strongest units to the next missions. I have the feeling this company went bankrupt since I haven't meet anyone that knows this game, and it's not in wikipedia RTS list and other abandonware sites. It's a mistery, this game came for free in CD magazine that had nothing to do with games also.

>>324128567
1920x1080. In fact, most older games don't work well with this even with some sort of patch.

>>324117480

I loved this game but it was a bit repetitive after a while. Not a lot of depth. The visuals still look fine though.

I NEED WEBMS OF MEN OF WAR
I FUCKING LOVE THAT GAME BUT HOLY SHIT SOME TIMES ITS BULLSHIT REALLY PISSES ME OFF

>>324128768
>But seriously what were they thinking?
From what I can tell, Kohan, very much like OP's Original War, just did not get any praise from the mainstream journo's and critics. I don't know what exactly it was with game critics and RTS, but I don't think there is any other genre were quite as much injustice was ever done to great games by shitty reviews from shitty critics.

The company did not have that much faith in the game, the publisher was probably hesitant to greenlight it, untill somebody came and said: "See Warcraft 3, and see the amount of dosh they are making! Do that and you should be fine."

That is how it generally goes with cases like these.

>>324128932
That description actually fits more than one game, in fact Original War in OP's picture being one of those. How about you give us a setting or something.

>>324128940
Oh, and Invisible cursor issue too.

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>>324118634
Blizzard said sc2 was the end of StarCraft. They probably want to put their efforts into easy free to play trash so I wouldn't hold out hope.

Ground Control 3 when? ;;

>>324128940
Oh. Man, I must be in luck, then. Don't see any screens with my resolution that much anymore

>>324129121
Let alone newer screen that actively resize to smaller resolutions. Complete bullshit, really.

>>324129027
>That is how it generally goes with cases like these.

Seriously, fuck journalists. Have the gamers decide what a good game really is.

>>324129032
And for what we got for these years of waiting for the game we got some stupid shit of a story.

>>324128213
>Bullshit, back in 2003-4 it was the most played game on the internet even ahead of counterstrike.

I call bull unless you give me a proof.
During the age of TFT, DoW, CoD, Halo 2, UT04, etc.
And do keep in mind we're talking about west only. If it got ahead of CS1.6 worldwide it simply means that Eqstern Europe couldn't be bothered to count all the net cafes with hundreds of thousands of CS1.6 addicts every day.

>>324118658
AoE 3, with its problems ironed out

>>324117701
What game?

>>324126753

How the fuck did that torpedo fit in that launch hole?

>>324118634
>I hope Starcraft 2 is selling well, I really want a Warcraft 4.
It's not. Which is a shame, because ignoring the insanely terrible singleplayer story, Legacy is actually really good.
But it's not selling, and I suspect it's what somebody clever already noted here: One new unit per fraction and a story campaign so terrible that even the writers themeselves admit they just could not be arsed is not enough to sell the damn thing.

So SC2 is done and went out with a fart. Legacy isn't selling well. Everything that is worth playing about SC2 (some of the mods, including faithful recreation of original SC1 and Broodwar) can be played on the free-to-play version.

Blizzard is going to focus everything into Overwatch (and Heartstone, but I don't think that takes a lot of work and resources) now.

In other news, Act of Aggression was a flop, world of Goo was a flop, Planetary Anihilation was a flop. The genre is dead. And it's not just because of MOBA's - even those who constantly proclaim how they wish there were more RTS games don't actually play them when they are out.

And frankly, the genre was always weird as fuck, with some bizzare quality standards and bizzare userbase.

>>324129218
>Seriously, fuck journalists. Have the gamers decide what a good game really is.
It does not work that way.

>>324128226
I'm curious about this game, but I can't seem to find an english downoload. Do you know any?

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>>324129331
DA'S WOT YER MUM SED DE UDDER NITE M8

>>324129464
>It does not work that way.
And that's what pains me.

>>324126753
Played it.

>>324129301
That would be Wargame: AirLand battle or Red Dragon, most likely the latter.

>>324128582
>we had CoH that set the benchmark for RTT games

RTT game? Really?

>>324129331
maybe it's flying from behind the sub.
Or it's too close to camera so it looks bigger.

>>324129397
>It's not.
Of course, they were too greedy to believe people would actually buy three games with 60$ for each

>>324129397
The single-player story is not bad, I'm not sure what's up with you faggots.

I have seen a lot of shitty campaigns, but it's not bad by any means.

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Anyone hyped for Battle Realms steam release this month?

>>324129737
>Anyone hyped for Battle Realms steam release this month?
>He didn't get one during GoG giveaway

Anything equivalent to MechCommanders?

>>324129737
It was confirmed?

>>324129397
SC2 sold great. Even the last expansion had over a million pre-orders.

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I need help /v/.

Theres a rts game I saw a trailer for when I was younger. The premise was angels vs. demons with humans stuck in the middle. It was set in the medieval age. I cannot for the life of me remember anything more then that but it looked amazing.

Do you guys know anything about it? Or did it end up dying?

>>324121306
That OST reminds me of some game so much, what on earth is it?

>>324129950
Afterlife?

BANNON
GODDAMNIT BANNON
BANNON GET OVER HERE
BANNON WHERE ARE YOUR TANKS
BANNON
GODDAMNIT BANNON
SHUT UP BANNON IF YOU HAVE NOTHING USEFUL TO REPORT
GODDAMNIT BANNON
SHUT BANNON
BANNON FLANK THEM
BANNON

>>324129724
>The single-player story is not bad, I'm not sure what's up with you faggots.
No, it's not bad. It's in fact irredimably god-fucking-awful. Each SC2 campaign was worse than the last one, TLV's being so bad even the most hard-boiled fans of the series were mad.
Mechanically, it's good. The mission design and stuff is cool. But the story is insanely bad, which is particularly painful considering that origina SC had at least fantastic atmoshere and settings.

>>324129881
>Even the last expansion had over a million pre-orders.
And costed several hundred million dollars.

>>324130112
you are unbelievably stupid

>>324118836
>>324120283
>be decent enough at rts, play lots of customs
>queue up my first ranked match (placement)
>heart is beating at 300 BPM, just below my APM
>playing zerg, tryharding and expanding like i'm playing a piano
>i'm about to be fucking destroyed any time now
>a few more minutes pass
>i attack with roaches and hydras
>my opponent has no army and just finished building a forge and second nexus in his base
crisis averted

>>324130112
>costed several hundred million dollars
Nice source.

>>324127852
MAKE BREAD involves MAKE BAKERIES and bakeries need their own separate courtyard so you can contain the weekly resonance cascades. Bread's a nice granary filler but if you rely too much on it you're gonna die.

>>324130164
You are probably the only person in the universe who actually thinks SC 2's story was good. Seriously. You are a complete and utter freak of nature.

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>>324129027
I made a drawing a long ago for asking, I kinda gave up.

The graphics were similar to Tiberium Sun, if not better, An isometric RTS game with futuristic units. Pic related are the units I can remember, the truck is an AA vehicle that kills everything and has a massive range, about 2 screens away so it was hardest unit to deal against.

The missions were timed, usually from 1 to 2 hours to complete. Each units, including static defenses gain rank by attacking the enemy. Max rank is S totally OP, stronger units takes longer to rank up even after a dozen missions it's rare to reach S unless it's a weak unit. You could select which unit you want to bring to the next mission, they were essential to complete the later ones and maybe the only way to kill the enemy static defenses.

There are some other things I remember but, the tower defense that shoots a green laser is hard to miss. I haven't seen any other game that has a similar static defense.

>>324130112
>And costed several hundred million dollars.
The most expensive game to ever develop has been GTA V, at $265 million, including marketing costs. An expansion to a RTS game did not cost several hundred million dollars to develop.

>>324129821
Idk but apparently the original devs are bringing the code up to date with steam multiplayer and everything so I'm reasonably hype

>>324129853
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/updates/311702665/1449786255

>>324130053
Same here. I think I borrowed it to some snotty kid and never got it back. Still bothers me a bit that cover art is super cool

>>324130325
talking about your
>several hundred million dollars
retard /v/ermin

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And now time for some obscure shit, fellas.

>>324129059
When ubisoft tells the developer to make one.

for now, I guess homeworld: DOK is the closest thing you have.

>>324130410
oh fuck that, AI is a dirty fucking cheater.
And fuck perimeter 2, it sucks imo.

>>324129059
Never because ubishit.

>>324130392
Fuck yes, do they include Winter of the Wolf too? I will pre-order/buy at full price to support them.

>>324130489
The story was god-tier though.

>>324126930

YFW This was an RA2 mod. Wart vs. Koopas vs. Mushroom kingdom.

>>324129737
I'm still waiting for BR2.

Hoping it will be larger in scale.

>>324130576
> That reminds me, I still haven't played Perimeter 2. How is it compared to the first one?
Its shit.

>>324130576
Same happened. best played with friend and against friend, because AI builds several things at a time, while you have to click shit.
>>324130631
Hell yes, the story rocked.

>>324130328
Total annihilation?

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Emperor: Battle for dune was the shit

>>324130776
>No Emperor: Battle for Dune 2

Why fucking live?

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>Sorry commander, I overslept
>please don't punish me

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>>324130776
>the ordos vs tilexus missions

No.
This is not okay.
This is the opposite of okay.

>>324128226
Thandor: Die Invasion mever forget.
I wasted way too much of my childhood on this game.
>tfw it took me and my friends about 20h to find out how to tech

>>324114191
>redownload it and play it for the first time since 11 years old
>the helicopters are bugged, pretty much crippling you on this particular mission

10/10 concept for a game. it never left my head. seamlessly jumping from control of a unit to commanding them still isn't done well or at all.

>>324116620
Being able to costumize all your tanks was awesome, Hover Flame Tanks for Hit'n Run was awesome.

>>324130750
I guess its time to replay it.

>>324130776
Unit movement felt a bit wonky to me.
Also what the fuck what was with that thing that could make infinite copies of existing units for no cost?

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>>324130328
this is was the attack patron of the tower. However if a single enemy unit comes in range of this tower then it changes the patron and concentrates the green bream on that unit only, killing it way faster.

>>324130763
it's not in the wikipedia RTS list, I already checked. It must be abandonware desu

>>324130954
I liked it in Space Rangers 2

>>324130982
>>324130328
SunAge?

>>324130328
Dune 2000?

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>>324127691
da bes

Had so much fun playing it on LAN with friends

Try it /v/, try playing it in your next LAN party.

>>324117552
Legends had that art style and music, 10/10 units. it's like the game you wanted but didn't know you wanted.
if you ever wondered why your RTS didn't have a unit, this game had that unit.

>>324127996
Settlers 3 and 4 if you don't mind that a single match WILL last between 3 and 5 hours.

>>324131006
The RTS missions are awful though.

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>>324130776
>>324130838

>mfw no new Dune games with pretty desert graphix ever

>>324129594
Only the first game was $60. The other 2 were $40 for a decent amount of levels.

In terms of number of missions they are close to the same number of missions in Brood War

>>324131246
>what is deserts of kharak

>>324131072
It's an older game probably 1997-2003

>>324131108
definitely newer

>>324130930
Its Tleilaxu you damn nigger.

>>324131295

Not a Dune game.

>>324131349
Fuck you gaylord, fremen a best anyway.

>>324131178
They are half assed and weapon balance is shit, but they still fun, nevermind that game actually allows you to disable them.

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>>324129950
Sounds vaguely like this.

>>324131072
>SunAge?
It was quite horrible back then, is it better now?

>>324131535
No.

>>324118158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDF6Z4lWcjI

This one.

>>324130674
Is that even on the horizon actually?

>>324131246
Within the next five years, J. J. Abrams will revive the Dune franchise with a new movie. Watch as the shitty games with pretty grafics come rolling in.