What's up with all the genderqueer stuff lately? Like I can understand transsexuals since they want to be the other gender, still following and accepting that Sex/gender is a binary, but then you have these non binary people thinking that dying their hair pink and wearing jeans is all it takes to be androgynous/male despite the fact that it kind of makes them more feminine...
I like to think of gender confused "people" as weak.
The change seems to occur most in "people" between the age of 8 and 20, when the human body is most into it's stage of growth, when hormones are surging and the mind is most unstable.
The desire to switch gender usually comes from the idea that the grass is greener on the other side, for the majority it is that they wish to become a woman, so they never have to grow up, so that they can remain childish and mothered by other people - so that they never have to go through adulthood. Lazy, selfish. I find most traps are incredibly narcissistic too, victims of their own complex now that they have designed, in a way, their dream girl, having given up looking for her, they become her, then wear her like a corpse over their real identity, and act as her, fooling others.
Having others see you as what you want is manipulation, it does not matter how you put it, and traps are sly, damaged "people" who live through manipulation of themselves and their surroundings.
Even on the Internet they try their best to be feminine through their misguided view of women (":3" spam, etc).
You are a failed male. You will not escape this in the eyes of people who don't sympathize with your immaturity and failure
>>324092041 Well yeah, they are weak. There's a reason why suicide is incredibly common in trans people.
However, I think your reasoning is flawed. The few trans people I've met haven't ever tried to become women to get treated differently. They want to function in society just as much as everyone else, and more importantly, want to be adults.
>>324092514 The vagina isn't made from genital tissue and wouldn't feel pleasurable, though it provide better access to the prostate than anal and allow for the internal erectile tissue to be stimulated. She also kept her testicles and would ejacilate semen from her rerouted urethra
"In humans, a single gene (SRY) present on the Y chromosome acts as a signal to set the developmental pathway towards maleness."
You would've done better discussing XX-male syndrome, where SRY gets grafted onto an X chromosome.
>>324092861 >for what other reason would they do it if the copy pasta wasnt true
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>324092041 Couldn't have said it better myself, but don't forget the women with extreme penis-envy issues who are willing to do anything and everything to avoid "slut-shame". There is no such thing as "slut-shame", if you are a promiscuous woman then that is what you are, no one wants to be with someone who would leave them just for the chance of finding some different dick just like you don't want to be left just because your man wants some different vagina, don't give it up to every guy that just "looks good".
I guess the closest you can get to an argument for additional gender options is the existence of additional gender roles in certain cultures, but I'm 100% certain that the people complaining about needing a "neither" gender aren't from those cultures and just want to be ~*~special~*~.
>>324093281 such as? i get im arguing with a strawman.you're baiting but to ask that your saying that there are no such thing as trans males or traps etc. so wot u on about m8
>disorder im not diagreeing with this but thats like saying "just cuz", people dig deeper into mental disorders to try and apply/figure out some sort of logic or thought process and the copy pasta earlier kinda hits a lot of nails on the head
>>324093535 Humans like shit based in reality, it makes it easier to identify with it. If a tranny wants to play a game, why don't they play as a gender they think they are, rather than they actually are?
I know this is bait, but it's a point nobody seems to make any more.
I'm one of the few on 4chan who has no problem with trans people, but why do people believe in shit like "Agender" and "genderqueer" will forever piss me off. You're either a boy or girl, no if ands or buts.
>>324090843 >Doesn't exist. I guess someone forgot to tell the Indians, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi, and the Maori, Polynesians, and Samoans. Or are you going to try to argue that the ess jay dubya bogeyman got to them?
>>324092861 >>324092041 Got a friend. Failure at life, basically. Poor family, seriously unlucky genetics. Going bald, horrible acne scars, this weird liver-spots sort of thing all over his body making him look like a dalmation under his clothes. Tried asking out girls, always failed, problems with depression, shitty dead-end job, no education, barely any friends outside the internet.
Of course he starts going on tumblr, of course he comes out as transgendered. I've had to personally waste entire evenings talking him out of suicide or whatever, so naturally I'm a bit fucking skeptical.
But for being worried that, hey, just maybe the guy who's failed at being a man and who has been depressed for the last five years has some deeper mental issues, I get fucking screamed at. The guy will not accept any situation other than his escapism. He surrounds himself in a hugbox, weeding out the people who aren't total betas who just tell him what he wants to hear. He meets up with this big group of trans people IRL, gets into this giant polygamy circle. He's being given so much fucking instant gratification at this point that he's absolutely certain that he's happy now, in his fake relationships with a bunch of raving idiots telling him he's beautiful in his wig and his dress with his hairy legs.
I didn't believe in /pol/'s whole "degeneracy" thing actually existing before I caught a sniff of what this guy's life had turned into, but holy shit is it ever gross. They're all a bunch of snivelling losers or people who prey on snivelling losers, huddled together in a big group that they never fucking escape from. You can never engage one-on-one with them, because they're always with someone else. Express concerns that they're not living healthily? Well fuck you, shitlord, you're literally the devil.
I'm willing to help the guy, it's not like he hasn't helped me out of rough spots, but he just doesn't want to be helped. It's like he's addicted to cocaine.
>>324093996 >based in reality doesn't mean a 1-to-1 recreation of reality, anon So magic that goes against the basic rules of physics is being based in reality, but a character that's a herm fish for example, something that actually exists on Earth isn't being based in reality?
You sound like a myopic retard, do you get upset at games that let you play as a robot, alien or zombie?
>>324093268 >if a transexual, let's say a man who wants/thinks they're a woman, why wouldn't they just pick woman in the gender option? Isn't that what they want to be? No, they want to be special, oppressed trannies. They've built their personalities, their lives, and their cultures around being trans.
Just look at the fucking words they use. Just look at the concepts they come up with. The fucking charts of unown-symbols they use to describe all of their special snowflake names.
"Deadnaming". Fucking deadnaming. It sounds like something Coldsteel would say - "yeah, my name is coldsteel, pssh, but my deadname is rathual the devourer". It's the word equivalent of changing your name from Robin to Robyn, something a fucking 10-year old might find cool.
They don't want to be like everyone else. They want to feel special and validated.
>>324095165 pasta or not there is some truth to it, why do you think so many people are trying to monetize off of it? Why would they want so many people to approve of them when most other people are very aware that no one cares to begin with?
Here's what I don't understand. Don't most trans WANT to be a total Boy/Girl gender? I never hear about them actively wanting to stay in a weird grey area in which they're "living in a body their mind doesn't agree with," they want to be a boy or a girl.
So like, if I were a sissy MTF bitch swallowing my boob-pills, I'm pretty damn certain I would say I'm a Girl in Pokemon games and I'd be happy with it as I'd be living out my dream of being a real cis-girl.
That's not the case for me, but that's how I see it.
>>324096087 >Expecting everyone to see the same exact threads you see on the exact same board at the exact same time Not him but I think you have some seriously unrealistic standards. Not everyone goes to tranny threads on /b/ my friend.
I can see identifying as a trans-man/woman, but not outwardly. That is to say, saying you're the gender you want to be, but engaging in the transgender community to offer support to other transgenders. Basically only saying you're transgender to explain your situation. Not saying "I have a girl's penis!" or "I'm a xir". Understanding your body as a transgender person, but enjoying life as the gender you want to be.
I remember an anon one time posting about his friend who switched genders. He developed mental issues and start talking about wanting to be a girl. Because we live in such a 'progressive' society everyone supported his friend, instead of saying he needed help for his mental problem. Now the guys life is a complete disaster just because of sjws.
They've basically internalized the gender distinction CODE so deeply, so unquestionably, that they really do believe that they are "changing genders" when they switch out a few designated "male" parts for "female" parts. No need to switch out personality traits, as these people are probably inauthentic enough to be total chameleons without any really inclination of their own (just objectives and directives issued from elsewhere).
Just because you crossed the line that was drawn up between them, that doesn't mean you're suddenly on the other side of gender: you're just on the other side of that line that was drawn approximately. For a sex change to truly change your sex, that would assume we've 100% charted every distinction between men and women and could somehow track that transition well enough to rule out misunderstanding. This is a kind of air-tight wish fulfillment where criticism doesn't even get a chance to exist, and you can easily see the unstoppable insanity woven into the interpretation of things.
>>324094189 >He's being given so much fucking instant gratification at this point that he's absolutely certain that he's happy now, in his fake relationships with a bunch of raving idiots telling him he's beautiful in his wig and his dress with his hairy legs.
Seeing this stuff makes you realise that we are doomed to wander around in a self-manufactured, air-tight "imagination suit", where we designate everything however we want, including our own degeneration. Your friend reminds me also of some of my own former friends, who basically just substituted their whole life for a stupid head-game and the social world surrounding it (esports, tumblr art, etc). Their life just becomes a balancing act to maintain that pathetic little world, since if they stopped squinting just the right amount, the fun shapes disappear.
You guys do know that there are real legit conditions in which a person can have all the physical characteristics of one sex, including the genitals and hips seize, etc, but they have the chromosomes of the other? They do exist. I think there was a episode of House with one.
Not that that makes tumblr trannies any less of nutjobs.
>>324091084 >but then you have these non binary people thinking that dying their hair pink and wearing jeans is all it takes to be androgynous/male Yeah, that's why they do it anon. Also, how do you decide what's masculine or feminine?
>>324099047 Yes. More primitive cultures created a third gender so that they could fuck cute boys. It's pretty much an organised 'no homo'. I fail to see what relevance this has to my point. Pointing at these and going "cultural and historical precedence for a third gender!" when the situations are completely different. The existence of the roman or maori third genders are not the same as the more modern variety.
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