Is this a good thing or bad thing, /v/?
There's going to be a huge market for military drone pilots.
It'll be top gun except you're sitting in a gaming chair with a joystick and a half empty bag of cheese bites sitting on your lap instead of sitting in an F-14
traditional sports in schools keeps kids fit and active and healthy when they might otherwise be like "I spent all day in school so now at home i'm going to be a lazy dick and not get off the couch"
That said, I don't think scandinavia has the obesity issues certain other countries have
I never cared about sports and I'm slowly becoming a fatass right now, but even I can safely say this is the most retarded thing I've read all day. E-sports are the fucking worst. I hope kids who choose this shit over actual sports get bullied for being dumbass nerds.
Without having read the article, it makes sense to me.
However, I think in the "Esports Class" kids should still be forced to do warm up exercises like jumping jacks, pushups, crunches, and have to run a mile every week.
Aside from that, playing a MOBA or shooter is better than playing fag shit like football and basketball. beh
>socialist programs like Healthcare bankrupting the country
>refugees raping their women while they smile away being too afraid to be called racist
>eat rotten fish that they bury underground for weeks
>don't even play physical sports
Come on niggers Ireland's doing better than you and they pay black people if they have cornrows
Physical education os important.
Sports is a good thing. As a sad sack who always got picked last and put in goals because they didnt want me to actually play i enjoyed those 45 minutes.
>tfw now a goalie for local football club and were second in the amature league and my save goals against tally is only 7.
>implying kids care about PE at all
I had to take multiple PE classes, some of which I didn't even need the credits for. Might as well allow the kids to do something fun if they don't like traditional sports.
I thought the whole point to schools offering sports is to promote physical exercise and well being
>>don't even play physical sports
It's one school you fucking retard
No one with a brain will think playing games in school is a good thing, everyone that age has plenty of free time out of school to play games. If it was after school hours then I guess it'd be a good thing for disadvantaged kids.
How the fuck would you grade a vidya class?
>1st world kid who play games all day can play even more games instead of being forced to the governmentally prescribed minimum of physical exertion that is necessary to stay healthy.
I see nothing wrong here.
Scandinavians aren't fat but it sure will keep the males soft
Muscle reflex and stamina
Grasping at straws, I know, but honestly the tie to physical education is at least partially justified.
Potentially make them money just like traditional sports where players spend more time playing than they do attending class and studying.
This is how it starts
People like x
People like watching good x players
The elite steps in and attempts to profit off of players watching good x players and giving a small portion of their profits to x players to generate even more interest
I like the idea because it will create more sources of entertainment
I despise the idea because people who don't play the game and most likely laughed at its existence will now turn around and make obscene profits
>tfw i know someone who goes to that school and he wants to get melee into that class
Why don't we put all the refugees into e-sports training camps and let them fight each other every season or so? I'm sure there's money in this.
Don't force our culture on them. Teach them how to play video games instead!
>unless it's team based games, in which case co-operation is an important aspect of societ
Teamwork and co-operation gets taught in P.E, though. This offers no real alternative to physical education at all. Pretty much everything a kid can learn through this eSports bullshit, they can also learn simply by playing outside, only to a much better degree and without damage to the eyes.
One of the major, if not THE major reason physical education is important in schools is to keep kids healthy, help em learn to work together and be social, teach them how to exercise properly
The benefits of video-games are debatable, but their effect on physical health really isn't. The world is getting fatter, and taking exercise away from students seems like a bad idea.
Unless there's a "maximum BMI" restriction on the videogame classes, then you'll get some hilarious butthurt and good motivation for fat kids.
How about we build gladiatorial arenas and put them fight in tournaments to death, and winners get to stay in the country while losers won't drain money. Sell the tickets and you could even make money off of it.
>fat kid who always has a note
>slowly gets fatter and fatter throughout school
>forgets it one day
>has to run
>takes about six steps and his knees give out
>both of them, flat on his face instantly
shit was the funniest thing ever, and it taught me how important physical education is if you like your knees
Besides its not like kids don't already do this stuff at home, playing videogames and stuff.
If they want to have good competitive video game players why not teach them to play bass or drums. They'll have a good sense of timing, that would be an advantage on different genres of videogames.
They can even do that through videogames, and playing an instrument it kinda taxing on your body too, almost like a workout.
I think they already take music classes though.
The best thing was seeing them attempt the hurdles, god damn that shit was hilarious, like a fucking bulldozer
I still got my kneecaps, and I'm still not fat, so yeah I guess I am. I just feel sorry for em, in retrospect, poor fucks get fattened up by their parents and don't know any better.
I've noticed a patten of fat kids also having two very fat parents. This leads me to ask question, is it genetic, or do their poor habits simply rub off on the child and teach him that stuffing yourself yet not doing anything all day is okay?
>have to run 100m against one classmate in PE
>pick the fattest guy in class
>look like a white usain bolt next to him
>have to be careful not to slip because the girls are getting so wet watching me
>we finish the race and the teacher tells us our times
>mfw I was acutally slow as fuck but nobody will ever know because fatbro made me look fast
>dem long races where the whole class runs laps around the whole field
>chilling, chatting, having a fun time, going slow as fuck, so relaxed
>fat kids in the group behind me breathless and sweating
how do they even get ready without breaking a sweat? How do they not lose weight by the sheer amount of exercise they do lifting their own bodies?
I hear thumbs burn a lot of calories.
>libruls in charge of realizing that it's not about playing sports but exercise and fitness
Okay anons, you have a class of middle schoolers. You can pick 3 games for them to learn and git gud at.
What do you pick?
It's not even just exercise and fitness, it's mainly your diet. Keeping a food log, though tedious, it's extremely helpful.
Though you should exercise because it makes it go much faster and exercising only takes 30mins-2 hours out of your day.
The kid in traditional sports will learn cooperation and become physically fit. The kid in e-sports will become a fat fuck who won't stop blaming noob faggots for his own mistakes. Sports in school isn't supposed to make you a pro athlete, it's supposed to continue your social education and give you fun experiences. Even being a benchwarmer in football is going to give you more conversation starters than playing league of legends. Concentration and reflexes? Physical sports will give you the latter, and gamers are some of the most ADD ridden children out there. This is a horrible idea all around.
>typing of the dead
It's a bad thing because the purpose of Gym is to get exercise, but instead of playing sports they should actually be doing exercise.
Playing video games does not accomplish this. You are getting no exercise from playing a video game. This is essentially "play time".
People still play sports at school as part of gym purely because it's what we've always done.
it's because they try to make it enjoyable for the kids. as a grown up you might run and lift heavy weights simply for the benefit of getting healthier but kids don't think that far.
>as a grown up you might run and lift heavy weights simply for the benefit of getting healthier but kids don't think that far.
but i was the opposite though. when i was a kid i wanted to grow up big and strong so i played sports and worked out. now i don't give a shit, drink beer and play video games.
kids aren't as stupid as the media tells you. they're stupid yeah but their not fucking mindless.
Wouldn't want my kid taking that INSTEAD of phys ed, but I'd be fine with it over any electives.
She's casual scum who mostly plays little big planet though. She like Splatoon so maybe that.
>eat rotten fish that they bury underground for weeks
You talking shit about rakefisk, motherfucker?
No one eats that shit and almost no one eats lutefisk. It's disgusting and a desperate attempt by my ancestors to make something new in this god-forsaken hellhole of barren cousine culture. Traditional Norwegian food is mostly shit compared to the rest of the world.
In what way are sport and competition contradictory towards one another?
Sorry but sport can be a mind activity. It can also use machines (racing) and be focused on coordination over physical exertion (billards, golf, marksmanship).
Something doesn't need to be physically taxing to be a sport. Nor does being a game exclude it.
Europe proving once again it's full of retarded pussies.
>Hey kids, do you want to play a physical sport that revolves around athleticism and fitness?
>Or sit in a room and play video games?
Of course they're going to pick the second one, but it doesn't mean it's a good decision.
I was a friendless loser who hated interacting with people in high school (I still am) and I took 6 more gym classes than I needed just because it was a way to move around in school. They can fucking suck it up if they don't like traditional sports, play the faggy esports shit at home.
>implying PE isn't just running around in circles and doing jumping jacks for a few minutes
Honestly, PE doesn't teach kids squat about physical fitness/good exercise habits. Like a lot of things, that starts at home.
I think its alright..kind of
>nerdy lonely kids don't get picked anyways and are usually excluded or just kicked to the side
>sports offers nothing if you don't even want to play it for your career which is what school does for you
The way I see it not all kids are good at or like sports and that's okay. Although gym is more about fitness and being active so gaming as in something like DDR would be better I don't know
I guess it depends on what benefits this class is supposed to provide, exactly.
Certain virtual sports could help teach similar skills as physical sports, such as teamwork, but obviously they don't provide much exercise or train many physical skills outside of hand-eye coordination.
Overall, I think doing physical sports provides more benefits to students.
This alternative might occasionally be better for people who are just never going to get anything out of physical sports due to lack of enthusiasm, but probably not for the majority of students who would take it.
I loved playing piano as a kid but since my parents forced me to take piano lessons I grew to hate it and now I cant even look at a piano without jawning and feeling like playing video games
This is like adding tabletop games as an alternative to physical sports. It really doesn't make a lot of sense.
>Videogames require teamwork, planning, and reflexes, though!
So do tabletop games, depending on what you're playing.
While it's not new or nonsensical to call non-physical PvP games "sports", they're not in the same category of activity as physical sports that have you running, dodging, and throwing. Even golf at least has you walking and swinging.
As proof that it's bad for fitness, most hardcore gamers are out of shape, either being scrawny as a twig or overweight. As they are in good shape, it's not because of the videogames.
If you've ever played a competitive game you'd know that playing 20-50 hours of it even with mentoring will result in only very small improvement. It's a waste of time.
You'd rather have the kids doing traditional sports since at least it gives some physical exercise.
>Critical Understanding of Fatness and Health
Doesn't really sound like a fat acceptance course to me. The minute that you bring health into the equation, obesity becomes basically impossible to defend.
Would anyone bat an eye at a proffessional poker class or a chess class? Why is this any different? Not everything needs to be physical to be practical. Games take skill, i would say even moreso than some physical sports. Look at a pro starcraft player play versus a pro US football player. US football is just "get big and run." Starcraft has much more depth.
>Doesn't really sound like a fat acceptance course to me. The minute that you bring health into the equation, obesity becomes basically impossible to defend.
How fucking far out of touch with reality are you? The 'fat movement' (lol) is literally called healthy at every size.
Yes, i just checked and it seems to still be outside of Europe.
>As of 2011, there were 2 Australian courses and 10 American courses that were primarily focussed on fat studies or on health at every size, and numerous other courses that had some fat acceptance content.
IIRC norwegian high school students dont even have sports or PE in their curriculum unless they pick a course with a lot of sports in it.
Or maybe I'm just wrong because I never went to public school in norway but international baccalaureate instead, where we didnt have PE because it's a waste of time
>m-muh real sports teaches kids how to exercise!
That's why you have rising obesity rates in the west though, because they're exercising at school. Friendly reminder that sports do not teach you how to stay fit, they simply act as an activity at school and actual physical education (IE teaching kids about the body, how it works, what to put in it, how to stay healthy and efficient workout methods) is far, far more effective than throwing a ball around like so many fat fucks did in school.
But I agree that if they were to replace phys ed. with esports that would be stupid. That's not a real replacement. As an optional course it is fine.
>baseless, uninformed assumption
There are wrinkled old men who understand the current trends of technology very well. These people were the dudes who were using punch card computers back in the 60s, as well as some of the more open minded and intelligent members of those generations.
The problem is that those people are a tiny minority. For the vast majority of those generations, who didn't even touch a computer until they were at least close to being middle aged (if not later), they're completely baffled by this new stream of technology and how it should be utilized. It reaches the point where they lack even the common sense to observe the technology first and then see what it should be used for (basic critical thinking skills), or to just surrender the decision making to people who do know what the fuck they're talking about.
The current young generations are extremely used to living in a time where technology is changing more rapidly than ever before, so they'll probably be adaptable to any new technology that arises. Furthermore, I know more than the average person in their mid-20s does about technology, so no, I don't believe that I will be falling into the same trap.
This is the fucking stupidest thingI've ever seen. I find sports boring as fuck to watch and even then I don't like playing them but if they think their not important and should be a option then their the biggest fucking idiots ever.
God, I'd have loved that, I could have carried my whole fucking team against those retards.
Only sport I was ever any good at was javelin and baseball, that was only because I was stupid fucking strong and could hit/throw far as fuck.
Six foot two, stronk, brawd with alpha Chad daddy, I'm wasting all my potential because fuck it I want to play fucking video games.
>Six foot two, stronk, brawd with alpha Chad daddy
Sure, m8, sure.
I'll also say that it's a bit scary when you consider that many of these retards are in our congresses.
China, for all of its stupid inefficiencies, hasn't been anywhere near as stupid about this. They have a bunch of high ranking people in their government who are STEM majors, not goddamn lawyers and career politicians. There may come a time where their STEM majors naturally outfox our lawyers when it comes to policies regarding technology. Not to mention the impact that our stupid laws have on the citizenry even when China is taken out of the equation.
I'm a sous chef, no thanks to a conference room. Half of my wait staff are mellennials who you claim can't interact with people. What are these social skills they are not getting and that would be further hindered by a vidya class?
Anti social idiots are anti social idiots, it's something that spans beyond the concept of generations. It's nothing new, so stop being grumpy over your prostate check old man.
For a lot of kids school is the one place they're forced to get off their asses and be active, taking that away and turning their one regular physical activity into more time in front of a monitor can only be a bad idea
>Might as well allow the kids to do something fun if they don't like traditional sports.
America is doomed.
Honestly, forced labour might be good for contemporary kids. They become tougher and more durable, more physically fit, more disciplined and they learn a trade for the future. I don't see the downside to this.
>people believe physical education help kids learn to work together
You mean like those girls that are gossiping right beside the goal and don't even try to block the ball?
Or those kids that think they're hotshit and take the ball and try to score by themselves?
We used to have marching in formation as part of PE. It worked wonderfully.
>yfw they think about bringing back mandatory military service
Fuck all weapon handling, patrols, fuck any military training in general, 5 hours a day on the training grounds on your knees with a drill sergeant is enough to put any autist in line.
If you truly think that France, UK, Germany and especially Sweden can recover from this "suicide" then you are truly naive. Unfortunately, there is no hope for these countries anymore.
Personally no, its an activity, or a competitive game. And by definition, no.
the 201X years have come with calling something a game is an insult
As much as I fucking hated it, sport classes are needed.
Fitness is more important than doing what you like.
If it was something like "school offering alternative sports to sports class" that'd be neat. I fucking hated football and basketball and shit cause I always got my shit kicked in by dem bullies. I'd much rather have just gone to the skatepark with my bike.
There are people in this thread right now that actually think playing video games is equal to physical exercise or playing a sport.
>twiddling of thumbs and mental stamina
>Being this retarded.
Can we all agree that College Football have no place in the University? Most of your tuition goes into paying the school stadium and the coach's fat check
look up the locker rooms of the top college football programs, its disgusting
chip kelly had a hot tub IN HIS OFFICE before he decided to take his shenanigans to the big leagues
>exploiting student football players for a million dollar business
>none of those money goes to school
>all the tuition from all student, whether or not they like college football or not, goes to pay for it
>even if they hike up the prices
>coaches get millions in games
>extracurricular getting more focus than fucking learning and teaching in university
You are the cancer that is killing education in the US
just to clarify
>19+ years old, finished with all mandatory school, not part of the national school program
> something you would apply for
>Highschool in Norway is poorly translated. Its more like a year off when you do what you want
> Not part of any curriculum except this school and that class, allright?