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Now that the dirt has sedimented, can we take a moment to recognize just how much Nintendo cheaped out on one of their tentpole IPs?

What was this a tech demo of? Their render farm?

Seriously. I, as a huge Nintendo supporter, am disappointed in their decision to pull a fast one on their fans.
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>>324037101
Isn't the second image from 2014?
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>>324037101
>There are people who unironically prefer the artstyle from the tech demo over Zelda U

the toppest kek
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>>324039273
what's wrong with it?
cel shading such a lazy gimmick. WW had n64 level graphics, but they just slap on some pretty colors, throw in some decent lighting and everyone cums their pants.
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>>324039506
>Art styles are gimmicks unless I like them.
The tech demo was TP plus overbearing lighting effects.
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>>324037101
>Pull a fast one
Nigga they are delaying it for a extra year just to work on the game it's self.

People bitched about wind waker and look how it turned out.
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OP, Nintendo's whole holding pattern is cheap. It'll roll out a couple games a year with a gimmick and slap one of their franchises on the cover. I don't get why anyone here expects a serious show of effort from Nintendo anymore. Mariomaker was literally "please make Mario interesting again autists, we know you're out there"
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>>324037101
Right looks better.
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Isn't their fault. Zelda must have a anime-style for the japanese weebs.
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>>324037101
I wish we would've gotten the Tech demo graphics but it was all optimized for that scene so I doubt they would've hold steady frames with that.

They just went the cartoonish way to hide the lower graphics, but as long as gameplay is fun it's just a minor issue
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>Thinking Tech Demos are what you should expect from the actual games
Fun fact: The left image more than likely couldn't be played properly without a lot of slowdown or lag.
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nintendo has given up
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>people still don't know what a fucking tech demo is
I want to fucking kill you all.
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>>324040414
man, I really miss that battle mode from nsmb

I don't miss anything from nsmb, it was a mostly mediocre game
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>>324040414
This is why I didn't buy the 3DS Zelda titles.
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*cough* Wind Waker *cough*
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>>324040473
remember the 2000 spaceworld demo? The one that looked like absolute shit but people still got salty that WW looked nothing like it?

I'm amazed that it's been almost 20 years and nothing has changed.
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The tech demo was just them throwing TP assets in a hd engine, they put the wind waker assets in that same engine and decided to remake it instead.
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>>324040778
3d adventure games like Zelda just don't work on handheld. Handheld is for puzzle games and RPGs. If you want to play Zelda, either play it on TV or just don't bother at all.
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>>324040414
Outrageously false
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>>324040974
>Zelda just don't work on handheld
Have you played the 2D Zeldas? Keyword, 2D. Spirit Tracks was a great 3D Zelda game worth the money I spent on it. Those remakes added nothing worth noting, and this was on the 3DS.
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>>324041267
I said 3D, not 2d. Zelda 2 or the top-down ones are fine. Spirit Tracks was a failure, and I'm not looking to argue with some hipster who actually thinks Spirit Tracks was a good game unironically.
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Looking back, it's remarkable how obvious it was what a turd the Wii U was. This is supposed to be a tech demo and it's obviously in 720p. Will Nintendo ever catch up to modern console standards or will they always be a generation behind?
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>>324041371
>hipster
(You)
Almost had me for a minute.
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>>324041651
The definition of a hipster would be liking Spirit Tracks, a near-universally disliked game.
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>>324041823
Except Spirit Tracks was a liked game, and was ultimately better than Skyward Sword and even ALBW. I'll give you the Pan Flute, only because playing long songs on that can be tiring. It was the last Zelda game I'd call great.
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>>324037101
the one on the right looks better
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>>324041567
Then why is Sm4sh the best looking game of all time?
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>>324042017
>Except Spirit Tracks was a liked game
In what fucking universe? It is considered one of the weakest of the series.
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>>324037101
>rendering one room vs an open world
I don't even have a Wii U, but that is just Retarded logic OP
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>>324042089
And yet those same faggots call Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess the pinnacle of Zelda. Just because you and all those other faggots have shit taste doesn't mean I have to.
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>>324042089
The only positive shit i remember about the game was on /v/ about how Zelda's personality was handled.
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If Aonuma had his full way every Zelda would be toon styled like WW.
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>>324037101
>I, as a huge Nintendo supporter

>people actually say stuff like this like they think others will believe it
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>>324037101
OP you can't be serious. You can't actually have an opinion like this, please don't.
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>>324042059
Please get your eyes checked. Most of the backgrounds look like they're straight out of a 6th gen game. Some of them actually looked better in the 6th gen game they were inspired by, for instance, Dolphino Plaza looks better on a fucking gamecube than the Smash level does. The Wii U just can't handle 1080p
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>>324042017
>and was ultimately better than ALBW


Whoa whoa whoa there, I like Spirit Tracks and all but let's not be retarded here.
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>>324041025
Got some facts to back that up?
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>>324042548
Why are you paying attention to the backgrounds?

Would you rather have slightly prettier backgrounds at 30fps over not so good ones at 60fps?
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>>324037101
>A single room created to demonstrate the maximum possible power of their system in a prerendered cutscene
>A cherrypicked screenshot from genuinely in-engine footage on a game that was two years from release and has since significantly improved
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>>324042691
All ALBW did was ride on the coattails of AlttP. You could get any weapon with enough money grinding, and the challenge was nonexistent save for the last boss. Even if you could go anywhere you wanted, it was still flawed. I'm not saying non-linearity was a bad thing, but there should have been a difficulty scale with what you did in whatever order.

I enjoyed it, but I didn't play it after I beat it.
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>>324039273
The lighting on the tech demo is so far and away better you must be blind.
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>>324042879
>Why are you paying attention to the backgrounds?
Because Sm4sh doesn't have a dirt texture for him to zoom in on.
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A tech demo just shows off what the console can do and is not a actual game at all fucking kill yourselves.

Nintendo always uses Zelda for its tech demos
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>>324042879
The fact of the matter is Smash 4 isn't winning any awards for graphical fidelity. I am making no other claims about the game itself. It's just proof the Wii U is basically a toaster from 2009.
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>>324037101
It takes all the Wew Us to render the image of the left.
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>>324043117
>graphics fags are always on about muh 60fps
>when a console game actually does 60fps and still looks decent it doesn't count and the console is a toaster lel
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>>324037101
It's the old GameCube zelda trick. Those fucktards always do it. They show an awesome link then they replace it with toon link
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>>324042968
You don't have to zoom in on textures to know this looks like shit. You can see the texture resolution WITHOUT zooming in. Super Mario Sunshine looked BETTER THAN THIS, for fuck's sake. The water in particular was incredible looking and they replaced it with simple alpha blending

What this is basically saying is that the Wii U can not handle upscaling a GC game to 1080p. It's not powerful enough.
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>>324039753
we've had enough MLP artstyle zelda, can't you fags be satisfied? wind waker looked pretty good, i'll admit it, but for god's sake the crayola shit has been milked to death. can we please have just 1 zelda that actually looks like the western fantasy that inspired it?
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>>324043353
Aonuma has a hardon for toon Link.
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>>324042089
You mean Phantom Hourglass. Not that you've played either, not surprised you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>324043353
but they replaced toon link with that reject from twilight
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>>324042968
>>324043420
meant to attach this
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have you never seen a tech demo before? Its never what the final product looks like
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>>324042942
>>324043117
does the claim that Sm4sh is the only current 1080p 60fps game on consoles still hold true?
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>>324043526
Your posting a level that is just ported over from the Wii version as proof.
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>>324043526
>stretching a picture from a downscaled youtube video

nice try
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>>324037101
Zelda U looks much better.
Plus the tech demo graphics wouldn't be possible with the large environments they're going for
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>>324043426
>actually looks like the western fantasy that inspired it?

Pls no. Their artists in the 80s and 90s far outstripped ours.

Give me an HD game with a graphics style somewhere between OoT3D and Kingdom Hearts, please.
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>>324043526
which they also did in brawl, which is where they ported the stage from. A more fair comparison would be the temple stage, or even onnet. Most of the new stages have a lot nice looking backgrounds, and all the stuff happening in TGCO.
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>>324043664
>>324043739
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/digital-foundry-gives-in-depth-performance-analysis-of-wind-waker-hd-resolu
>"...if this remaster has one problem, it's the frame-rate. While the majority of our time with the game produces a stable 30fps, as with the original, there are sequences where frame-rate drops are very noticeable. It's an issue that typically crops ups once a multitude of alpha effects are drawn, be it from your boat's cannon-fire, or when approaching certain islands. The impact of these dips is underscored by the fact Wind Waker HD's frame-rate is actually tied to its game speed, meaning 20fps lurches equate to slower, more sluggish gameplay. Such drops are, thankfully, momentary but do detract a bit from the game's polish - not a deal breaker by any means, but disappointing given the GameCube release runs free of any such problems."
The Wii U is not powerful enough to run GC games full speed at 1080p.
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>>324043648
i thought 3d world was as well

some more U games too probably
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The question is why TP HD isnt like left pic?
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>>324043986
I guess the PS4 and Xbone cant either since RER and RE0 run at 1080p sub 30fps.
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>>324043117
>The fact of the matter is Smash 4 isn't winning any awards for graphical fidelity.

Get your eyes checked. Then show me a better-looking game.

I'll wait. Nah, I won't. But you still have to prove it to everyone else in this thread.
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>>324043986
hmm, that port is not done in house though.
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>>324044113
>b-b-but Sony!
Like fucking clockwork.

And? What the fuck does this have to do with *anything*?
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>>324044048
Because they decided against redoing the entire game from scratch and handed it to the team that ported Deus Ex.
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Honestly I like the style of Zelda U
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>>324043757
>cherry picking

there's good western fantasy art bro

>Give me an HD game with a graphics style somewhere between OoT3D and Kingdom Hearts, please.

i'm ok with this actually. i don't hate colors i'm just sick of SD chibi and pastel bullshit
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>>324044221
It was cool back when it was a team ico game
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>>324043989
i believe 3d world is 720p.
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>>324044197
>Looking back, it's remarkable how obvious it was what a turd the Wii U was. This is supposed to be a tech demo and it's obviously in 720p. Will Nintendo ever catch up to modern console standards or will they always be a generation behind?
>Will Nintendo ever catch up to modern console standards or will they always be a generation behind?
>other modern consoles cant run gamecube ports at 60fps
>WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MODERN CONSOLES
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>>324039506
>i'll make any excuse to defend downgrading
>because i take nintendicks cock in my butt
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>>324044197
why are you singling out sony, hesaid ps4 and xbone, and to posting an example of last gen games they also cant run stably
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No it looks good fuck off
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>>324040473
if you tell people that this is how the game will look like on release then they have every right to be pissed
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>>324044360
The RE HDs are a lot more impressive looking than WWHD. WWHD has slightly higher resolution textures and some bloom, and that's it

But I digress, you're right. You've proven conclusively that Wii U is as powerful as the PS4
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>>324044549
>artstyle is shit
>looks good
wat?
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>>324044603
You are actually retarded.
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>>324044603
they didnt though.
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>>324044693
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>>324044282
>there's good western fantasy art bro
You gonna post some?
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>>324044693
>"artstyle is shit"
>artstyle is actually good
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>>324044651
>Wii U is as powerful as the PS4

I love my Wii U but are you fucking retarded?
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>>324044603
that's not what a tech demo is for
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>>324037101
>I, as a huge Nintendo supporter

Most obvious falseflag I've seen in the last 5 minutes.
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>>324044651
REHD is using prerendered backgrounds from a fucking SD game on the gamecube, the game is running on a PS3 at the same framerate as the PS4 version, its not impressive at all.
Wind Waker HD is just new lighting effects while REHD is just touched up models.
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>>324044651
Which is also the same for RE HDs, save for bloom, especially since the pre rendered backgrounds were just thrown through some filters due to the original sources being lost.
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>>324043082
If the console could do what's on the left then why are we getting that garbage on the right?
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>>324044950
Because it's equally as impressive
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>>324044950
Because the shit on the left is literally using assets from a gamecube game.
Just play TPHD if you want generic fantasy styled Zelda
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>>324044782
i have found you a google link
https://www.google.com/search?q=bob+eagleton&num=30&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwmPeOwqzKAhVJ8GMKHX9mBc4Q_AUICSgD&biw=2048&bih=793#imgrc=qqAHn45BAoYg-M%3A
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>>324045159
Why do assets from a Gamecube game look more detailed, well-made, and visually pleasing?
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>>324045392
Because everything looks good when you cover it with a shit ton of lighting effects and filters.
Look at Star Wars Battlefront.
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>>324045194
Oh don't bother. I'm just being a shit. We mostly agree anyhow. I'm not a fan of WWs Western-inspired art any more than you are. I've wanted them to go back to either realism or the manga inspired art direction for years.

PS EGM made this comparison first but I found this image on google pointing to IGN.

PPS I would have posted some Frazetta inspired art for an RP lady friend of mine but I don't think I have permission from either the artist or her.
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>2015
>people still salty about Toon Link
Gift that keeps on giving.
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I never understood this whole demand for the Zelda franchise to go for realism? The Zelda games aren't really that realistic to begin with
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>>324045637
The same reason people beg Gamefreak to make an edgy realistic pokemon game or why people wanted Sega to make that Shadow game in the first place.
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>>324045637
Thats why I push for the 80s or 90s Manga style, like God intended.
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>>324045519
>manga inspired
i'm ok with that yeah

TP with more color and less boring generic designs

so basically oot
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>People actually think the new Zelda looks like Wind Waker
Aside from the cel shading, the two games look nothing like each other
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>>324039506
>WW had n64 level graphics
Try harder. You're not even impressing your parents like that.
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>>324045637
Lord of the Rings. Around the time of Wind Waker's release, there was the Two Towers, I think that got really popular, and the LotRfaggots somehow got into Zelda, hoping that would be the same way. Skyrim/Dark Souls are now the go-to series that people want Zelda to incorporate elements from.
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