What the fuck went wrong? How did this become tumblr: the game?

Because it's a shit game with memes

It has progressive shit like lesbians, faggots and crossdressers

How can you seriously ask that? Did you even play it? Literally everything in that game is designed to pander to tumblr cancer

the only decent thing about undermeme is the music

rest is garbage

>>324020906
I don't care what anyone else thinks, I enjoyed it.

>>324020906
>How did this become tumblr: the game?

Retards repeating it enough to make it true.

>>324021056
did you?

>mediocre meme game with some trannies
>tumblr thinks by including trannies that it's THEIR game
>media thinks the same way
>push it as the Anti-Gamer
>game takes off, would have just died off like all other indie shit without the media push

that's how it became the giant piece of shit it is now

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It's fucking amazing watching /v/ go insane over this game, you'd think the creator personally pissed in each and everyone of your faces.

>>324021151
this tbdesu.

>>324021172
Literally this.
It's an endless loop of shit.
People who think this game is a materpiece are wrong and people who think the game is bad or has memes are also wrong.

>>324020906
Because it has some casual progressive things that retards believe are in your face even though I barely gave a shit the whole time.

An Hiro should enable visible saging.

>>324020906
Because the message of the game is the humans and the rpg's are bad.

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>>324020981
>>324021046
>>324021056
Why the hell was /v/ hyped for this game years ago if this is the case?

>>324021356
JRPG is literally the worst of all genres of video games.

>>324021393
>years ago
>announced and made within 1 year
k

>>324021393
because at that point only the goat milf was shown, not any of the progressive shit

>>324020906
>How did this become tumblr: the game?
it didn't it just became popular and /v/ had to start pretend to hate it

the only people that see sjw shit in undertale are sjws because they see it in anything and people trying to fit in /v/ because they need some hot memes to shit on the game

>>324020906
>become
Good joke. Sagetta.

I thought it was a fun game that put a neat twist on gameplay. The problem is that the message the game conveyed was too vague, which allows anybody to alter it to fit their agenda

>>324021116
I will never understand how people can say that.
The music was horrendous beside megalovania, and that's a song he's been rehashing for decades at this point. It's still merely mediocre.

>>324021604
actually this is my favorite track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMjgHPOJ1ys

that's some phoenix wright shit right there

>>324021561
>twist on gameplay
There was none. Try playing more than 0 games before opining.
>the message
The message was clear: faggots are hu- monsters too! well-adjusted people are evil, unlike monsters (i.e. the LGBT crowd)! killing is bad hmkay?

>>324021710
Thanks for the earrape. I'll make sure to repay you someday.

>>324021864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IUDZ2EcuXI

i'm sorry, have some good shit instead

>Memes from this shithole taken
>A few gay characters and suddenly Tumblr thinks they won and therefore praise it for thinking its pandering toward progressiveness
>Can't say anything bad about it either so Journalist are forced to give nothing but positive reviews
>If a single person says its shit your a bigot

The game is shit, unoriginal, a rip off from earthbound

But of course games are so shitty now days you have to have no talent to be talented.

i'm not complaining its fun going on a Fake alias on Facebook and shitposting to death

It's not Tumblr: The Game, it's Homestuck: The Game.

>>324022010
>its fun going on a Fake alias on Facebook and shitposting to death
Think about what you are doing with your life.

>>324022010
>90% of the cast is non-straight
>"A few gay characters"
>>>/tumblr/

>>324022121
same shit

>>324021508
/thread

>>324022121
No, it's tumblr: the game through and through. Just because it stole a lot from homestuck (alphys design, undine design, le ebin meta XD, etc.) doesn't mean it's not designed from the get go for the tumblr crowd.

>>324022225
>>324021508
same fag

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>>324020906
Just a meme game.

The music is especially shit bar a single track.

For all its meta humour it somehow manages to lack self awareness where it counts (its heavy-handed, on the nose exposition).

>>324022010
>The game is shit, unoriginal, a rip off from earthbound

Reactions like this are like reactions to TFA calling it A New Hope 2.0 by people who think the prequels were shit.

Along comes an indie game that's not a masterpiece, but not shit either, paying homage to a past golden age, but because it also caters to a demographic you don't approve of you automatically call it shitor a ripoff.

>>324022641
>but not shit either
HAHAHHAHA
HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Tumblr is hilarious!

>>324022641
>but not shit either
The difference between TFA and Undermeme is that one is actually good (hint: I'm not talking about the shit game).

What exactly is a Tumblr game and how does this game fit into such category?

>>324022171
Oh so there are more then I thought good to know.

>>324022641
If an indie games needs to copy a masterpiece from Nintendo like they always do then it deserves to bomb hard

Why the fuck can't these sprite loving faggots get over it and realize these types of games have already been done and we don't need another

Its like trying to make a side scroller indie mario rip off number 85

>>324022924
Hello tumblr.

>>324022171
the only non straight characters are undyne and alphys

2 out of don't remember how many

why is /v/ so desperate to shit on a rpgmaker game

I've never seen a thread like this before.

>>324020906
It was designed to appeal to tumblr casuls

quirky,self-deprecation humor is just their shit

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>>324022956
>Earthbound
>Masterpiece
No one can surely say such an average JRPG be a masterpiece. It has some of the most bare bones mechanics and it takes awhile for rolling HP to matter with the territorial oak and then some of the monsters near the end of the game.

The only thing that it has going for it isn't its mechanics.

So why is it Tumblr and not Reddit?

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It's a quirky game for quirky gamers such as themselves :^)

>>324021116
Music was great, but i never listened to them anymore. They were good inside the game, if i listened to them when i wasnt playing the game i would feel like a huge faggot.
What about the combat system atleast? That was the best thing about undertale.
The writing made me cringe multiple times, the humour was ok at certain parts. The game was filled with cliches, and the true ending was overdone.

>>324022915
TFA is also garbage, just like anything jewjew abraham is involved in.

>>324020906
>tumblr: the game

>tumblr can be literally anything you want it to be based on who you follow, what you search for and what you repost.

For me it's tons of porn and owl videos. So there better be lots of that in this game if you're comparing it to Tumblr

>>324023169
Then by that definition Undertale should be considered fucking shovel ware because its not even half the game Eathbound was

>>324022827
I avoid tumblr like the plague, and usually do the same to indie titles. I played through undertale to see what the fuss is about and though it's flawed in many ways it was still enjoyable.

>>324022956
>these types of games have already been done and we don't need another

By that logic we should get rid of 99.99% of games on the market. Originality is an overrated concept pushed forward by naive idealists who more often than not can't provide a speck of originality themselves.
In the end, it's all memes. Intertextuality, homage and parody, inspiration and copypasta.
That doesn't make it bad, on the contrary, it makes things more interesting.
Originality is far from a guarantee of quality as well. Name me one game that invented a genre and then afterwards wasn't bested by one of its many copies.

>>324023243
The humor was fine until after the skeletons

The game was fine until after the skeletons

After that it just got boring

>>324023058
>undyne
>alphys
>skelly
>mc
>2 guards
>gay fish
>>>>>>>>2

Why is everyone on /v/ so mad at this game?

>>324023293
>>>/tumblr/

>>324023058
There's those gay knights as well

Though they get countered by the dog couple.

>>324023435
Because it's popular and mainstream now.

>>324023435
SJW's claimed it before /v/ did, that's all. Now they're bitter.

>>324023350
The end of the tutorial was the end of any non-garbage content.

>>324020906
Well have you read the writing and tone for one

>>324021393
>/v/ is one person
How to detect an Undertard:
Seriously, the same argument every single time

>>324021450
The Kickstarter began in 2013 and was released in 2015 you dumbass

>>324023435
Because tumblrinas have invaded 4chan en massed due to it.

>>324023293
Were talking indies here that use the lowest of budgets and constantly churn out the same shit.

The difference is the idea is being over used and being bad while being overly used.

>>324023435
>Popular
>Elements of the following are complete faggots
>Popular
>Never played it
>Popular

Usually in that order. A lot of people like it, and within "A lot of people" are always Bronies, Furries, Tumblrites, Minion-lovers, etc.

>>324023380
Also, toriel as at least bi.

>>324023653
There was not hint of Toriel liking women. So why would you assume this?

>>324023782
MC flirting with toriel gives toriel the hots. MC is canonically female.

>>324023435
Fans are annoying

For some reason, one-man games attract the exact kind of person the dev is like (see: Cave Story, where the fans are chill and nice like Pixel), and Tobyfox happens to be a complete douche, not only noticeable from twitter, but old Starmen.net users will likely tell you the same

>>324023380
You mentioned gay fish twice. And neither of the skellies are interested in the same gender, unless you were playing Frisk, a character of ambiguous gender for the player to self-insert, as a boy and asked Papyrus out on a date instead of just hanging out. The two guards are gay for humor in a "no homo" /fit/ sense.

>>324023836
That conversation in the true pacifist ending if you flirted with her then called her mom is hilarious.

>>324023904
>1 mention of gay fish equals 2 mentions of gay fish!!1
Tumblr logic!

>>324023272
>looking at owl porn
Undercucks, everybody.

>become

>people shit all over X game
>nobody cares
>people shits all over Y game
>nobody cares

>people shit all over UnderTale
>"why you hate this game I like? Waah WAAAH waah !"
>here , let me convince you why you're wrong and UT is literally the best game ever

It's okay to like UT. I personally hold it as a solid 6/10 game. I just can't understand how come Americans both can't deal with the fact that <7 score doesn't mean bad (that's what <5 is for) and something as simple as other people shitting on what you like. Just grow up, you massive shelteres pussies. People are going to shit on your feelings . Boohoo.

>>324023272

>Enabling tumblr

That's a new low even for /v/.

We are almost as bad as /co/ these days.

>>324023953
Undyne IS the gay fish, you fucking chode.

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>>324024236
>I haven't played the game!!1
Undercucks, everyone!

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>>324020906
It has literally all the elements of a tumblr.
Compare this shit to something like Homestuck and you'll find that there's a lot in common.

>shippable characters
>furbait
>plot that's trying hard to be 2meta4u
>good music
>memes, especially that whole temmy ordeal does it since that's literally how people who've been on tumblr too long actually unironically chat.
Googling for an example image to my last point has left me a scarred and broken man.

>>324024191
>we
Speak for yourself
>almost
Beyond
>these days
Welcome to 2008

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>>324024438
>tumblrtale
>good music
Choose one.

>>324023435
Because threads get spammed and mods don't delete also the fans of this game have an obnoxiously huge ego that makes it hard to have a discussion without them coming in and trying to fit their meme game into the narrative

>What the fuck went wrong?

The game spent like an hour developing a lesbian relationship between two background characters instead of just tastefully implying it. The only reason to enjoy any of that shit is because people like having their ships confirmed.

Sans is a cool character though, he's a straight up BAMF and I would totally chill with him. Wouldn't want to make him mad though!

>>324024438
>homestuck
>furbait
Uh huh

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>Demo - September 2015
>The only people who knew about it were people who are into RPGmaker/Freeware games (Yume Nikki, Cave Story, OFF)
>October - Today
>A high percentage of the fanbase consists of autistic FNAF kiddies and special snowflake tumblrinas

Basically, the fanbase
If the game was hardly known it would be widely regarded as a hidden gem here and there would be minimal shitposting

>>324024236
No. Kanye is a gay fish too. He likes fish sticks.

>>324024516
Bitch, you can say a lot of things about it, but the music is god tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuBpl7k_eU

>>324024696
The Alphys date was 10 minutes tops. How distorted is your perception of time?

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>>324024438
>shippable characters
Any character in anything is shippable. People ship fucking Star Trek and Looney Tunes characters.

>furbait
Characters that have fur are not furbait. The only furbait in the game is that Butter Dragon boss that's only in because a furry donated a large amount of money during the kickstarter. Even then that boss is optional and extremely hidden.

>plot that's trying hard to be 2meta4u
Nothing about the plot is very meta except for the save-state gimmick during the Flowey boss fight.

>good music
The music fucking sucks.

>memes, especially that whole temmy ordeal does it since that's literally how people who've been on tumblr too long actually unironically chat.
There are no memes in Undertale. People have made memes out of Undertale content, but the game doesn't have any pre-existing memes in it on purpose. They they had a rageface enemy or a "why can't I hold all these limes" sidequest then it would have memes in it. But it doesn't, and people will make memes out of anything.

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>this guy made it

>>324024732
The same thing happened with OFF, though. Just on a smaller scale.

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>>324024912
I wasn't aware of this, but it makes complete sense. Tumblr, everyone.

>>324024965
That's not Tumblr in the slightest. That's just looking like a faggot, and I have no doubt that a majority of /v/ looks any better.

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>>324025112
Thanks for sharing, tumblr.

>I have no doubt that a majority of /v/ looks any better
You'd absolutely be right.

>>324020906
Because /v/ is a bunch of scared manchildren.

>>324023875
>Fans are annoying

When was the last time an actual fan even talked about the game here and not just some idiot stirring the shitpost pot again?

>>324024516
But it has does good music though
http://youtu.be/yWjavxcGfqM
http://youtu.be/kfgmMPke7_k

>>324022971
Tumblr wouldn't need to ask

>>324025598
It's true, family.

>>324025597
*does have

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>>324021604
Megalovania isn't even top 5, let alone being the best track in the game.

>>324025112
You fail at English.

>>324025491
The people defending Undertale ITT for example

>inb4 theyre probably not fans
Non-fans either ignore or only lurk these threads, so that leaves either haters or lovers
Pick a side, Nancy

I love Undertale. Never played it, but man does it make people hella butthurt.

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>Good game, shit fanbase
Not this fucking shit again. Every time. Every goddamn time anyone discusses anything. A fucking video game, a tv show, an anime, food, fucking anything. There always has to be this goddamn mouthbreathing retard that has to bring up the fact that he does not like the people who like a thing, as if that's relevant to the discussion in any way. We get it. You do not like people in general, and literally everything that could possibly have a fanbase will be full of people you dislike. Good job you fucking genius, thank you for your astounding insight. Whatever the fuck would anyone do without your shitty, brain-numbingly retarded posts.

>>324025112
If I take your fucked up english correctly, I don't have that big of a jew nose or pasty skin for starters

>>324025291
Only proving the OP by posting this.

>>324024818
I'm gonna see a doctor to get my ears repaired now. Fuck you.

>>324024287
Thanks, anon. That had me chuckle.

>>324025874
Same, especially when you talk shit about Undertale and at least 12 fags rush to correct you

>>324025872
I don't see anyone being annoying in their defense of the game at the moment.

>>324025818
*doesn't have

>>324020906
Has interesting characters, humor, bit of progressiveness, 4th wall breaking, and music is pretty good.

>>324024912
>A 23 year old kid did something with his life and is now swimming in cash
>You're still sitting at your computer doing nothing but arguing with other overweight losers online
It hurts

>>324024732
>shit gameplay
>garbage story
>awful music
>6 hours long all paths combined while taking your time
>hidden gem
Kill yourself.

>>324024732

>A high percentage of the fanbase consists of autistic FNAF kiddies and special snowflake tumblrinas

I came here to basically say this. It's a classic example of a fanbase literally eating what they like alive to the point where it dissuades people who would otherwise play the game from trying it. A few bad eggs ruining for everyone.

I think that not liking or playing a game because of the fanbase is pretty gay but I understand why people would get turned off that much.

I'm just glad I played in before that happened to me. As it stands it was one of my favorite games of last year and a fucking huge surprise to me.

>>324025827
It's literally the only track that can even be listened to without getting a headache within 5 seconds. It's still mediocre as all hell.

>>324024438
> shippable characters
You can ship characters in any fucking work of fiction. The classic example being Kirk shipped with Spock. Point is moot.

> furbait
By the same standard wolves in Skyrim or any other WRPG can be considered furbait. They have fur, therefore furries will make furry porn of it.
Or take any other old source of fiction in which animals are personifications. Aren't thos furbait too then?

> plot that's trying hard to be 2meta4u

It's mixing elements of the classic "love/friendship triumphs over everything" plot with fourth wall breaking elements. Breaking the fourth wall in itself is a classic device in theatre, what's so bad when it's used in video games?

> good music

How is good music a counter point? Does a game need a shitty soundtrack to not be tumblr? This point is really fucking baffling.

> memes, especially that whole tammy ordeal

Tammy isn't a meme. Let's be clear on this: You use the word meme as "joke/comic relief which I don't like". A meme is a joke that is used repetitively to fit new circumstances. It's not a running gag, but uses the same execution on different situations. When is the Tammy joke ever used for that? Tammy is a random, non-sequiteur character. If you're above having fun with that, fine. It's not even a mandatory part of the game, but at least the randomness of the characters has a point. Nobody in the game will buy your shitty used equipment. Temmy does, because she's a daft, random character, and is likeable because of that. Hmm, having an economic system that actually makes fucking sense sure is fucking tumblr, right?

>>324026206
>A 23 year old kid's garbage was heavily shilled and publicized because of the sjw agenda pushed in media, netting him millions
>your actually good videogame that was simple and sweet yet well-developed, of a good length, with good gameplay and music and free, on the other hand, has never and will never be noticed by anyone
It hurts

>>324026434
So defensive, anon...

>>324026067

And I enjoy how contrarians man-children feel personally attacked by trannie game characters. It truly is a great game, to bring people as diffrent as you and I closer to one another.

>>324026434
>>324024893
The butthurt is delicious!
It's true what they say: nothing beats the truth when it's time to make tears flow.

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>>324026293
That sounds irregular and you should see a doctor. 8 bit chiptune os extremely grating and I can't blame you for not liking the music in thos game, so to each his own.

There are still better tracks than Megalovania.

>>324026485
Lmao ur game is shit dude

>>324026528

> attack somone for liking someone
> bring up a rationally argued defence
> So defensive, anon...

If you don't like being refuted, don't state anything. Although this is common practise on this board, you're not entitled to slap someone without being slapped back. Which is really fucking tumblr, by the by.

>>324026485
Anon your game fucking sucks

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>be a grown ass man
>talk to another friend of mine who is about my age
>she's a schoolteacher who works at a high school
>we're reminiscing about video games we used to like as kids
>ask her if she's played Undertale
>she tells me about all the annoying students at her school who are obsessed with it
>admits she has no interest in playing it as a result

Anyways, I thought it was interesting to encounter an actual real-life example of Undertale's fanbase being so cancerous that it ruined the game for someone.

>>324026741
Same, I have a friend who's actually a furry that uses tumblr and she doesn't want to play the game because of cancer

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>>324026597
You're the one that's upset my friend. You don't get upset when you can actually enjoy vidya.

>>324026617
8-bit chiptunes are great. Tumblrmeme's garbage, though? Fuck no.

>>324026767
>>324026629
It hurts
It's minecraft all over again

>>324026882
hello reddumblr

>>324020906
Who knows, I only did genocide and dropped the thing.

>>324026747
>being this defensive
>AGAIN
I wasn't even the anon you lashed out against the first time. But by all means, continue to sperg out.

>>324027025
Nicely memed. Did you see that one on Facebook?

>>324023435
Because they're triggered by anything an SJW could ever possibly like

>>324026882
Your tears are my sustenance!

>>324026891
It's not 8 bit chip tunes it's fruity loops. No emulated or real chipsets were used

>>324026879
Yeah.

I forgot to mention she was a schoolteacher which is why I thought it was funny. High school was a long time ago for me too, but I wonder if there are annoying overzealous fifteen-year-old Undertale fans out there rubbing everyone's noses in it?

Really makes you think you're getting too old for video games.

>>324027070
pls go and stay go and take undermeme with you back to reddit/tumblr or /vg/

>>324021056
Not really, you are wrong and have been for quite some time lad.

>>324027094
That much is obvious. I was responding to the
>8 bit chiptune os extremely grating and I can't blame you for not liking the music in thos game
part.

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>>324027159
What a funny joke.

>>324026862

>she tells me about all the annoying students at her school who are obsessed with it

Because kids liking a video game makes it a bad game? A lot of kids out there like pretty good video games. Some kids just play minecraft all day long. I think its pretty hard to say its a bad fanbase using children as a example based the second assumptions of someone on a somoan tribal tattoo website.

>>324020906
When it got too popular and therefore /v/ wasn't allowed to like it anymore.

>>324026891
I'm not fond of them personally. I can work with 16 bit though, Genesis had great music when people took the time to actually work with it.

>>324027094
I know but some of the tracks are clearly meant to evoke that feeling.

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>I hate this game because of the intolerable fanbase, even though the game is single player and I don't have to interact with any of them

I'd ask /v/ to try to keep it together for once but this has been par for the course for years

>>324027241

I'm not shitting on the fanbase at all, just giving an example of one person's experience. You know how obnoxious teenagers are, right? Especially the obsessed fan kind?

If it makes you feel better I ended the topic by telling her she should play it anyways and become the coolest teacher in the world.

Undertale fans cannot take banter

http://strawpoll.me/6543431

>>324027341
I'll show her a homo paradise
It's called /v/

>>324027450
>being a Christian
Literally the most boring religion

>>324027537
>thinking church is just old people singing hymns

Last Sunday I won a dunk competition at my church and we had a literal heavy metal band doing music for our praise and worship. Sorry if that's "boring" to you.

>>324023435
Literally because its popular and mainstream.

I played it in October/November and /v/ fucking loved it then.

Now its just bait.

>>324024438
The Temmy thing was added in by an artist. Fox didn't really have alot to do with it, but he did allow it into the game as an optional extra, so.

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>>324027767

>>324026217
>shit gameplay
Feels pretty smooth to me
>garbage story
It's actually quite intriguing
>awful music
Objectively wrong
>6 hours long all paths combined while taking your time
Nigga the neutral run alone is 6 hours even when skipping important things
>hidden gem
You know jack shit about this game and it sounds like your really blinded by hate
Sorry faggot, I don't go around calling games I know nothing about shit

>>324027767
What the fuck

>>324026485
Your game must fucking suck

>undertale

+ soundtrack
+ humor
+ characters
+ interesting combat concept
+ creative use of meta aspects to lengthen gameplay
+ dizzying amounts of secrets

- poor overworld sprites
- poor overworld engine
- hopelessly linear
- dodging damage and acting becomes trivial fast
- puzzles are completely trivial
- complete lack of difficulty curve
- player choice mostly opens lore rather than gameplay
- very little emphasis on player/loot progression

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>>324022318
epic

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>>324020906

>>324028052
Tumblrinas everybody!

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>>324020906

What went wrong is that /v/ became /pol/ after gubergate. Left or right, people used to care about the quality of the game, or if the games was doing something cool or new. Now, it doesn't matter what the game is trying to do, as soon as it shows any political bent (any opinion, really), this corner of the internet gets buttmad cause some loser on twitter once called you sexist.

Honestly, the only game /v/ can really enjoy now is Tetris, since is devoid of any message or opinion... oh wait, is it Russian? COMMUNISM! Is it a puzzle? CASUALS!

>>324021393
Yeah, this. People are constantly shitting on it after hype existing for years.

>>324027060
>discussing video games is bad
kys yourself

>>324028336
>linear
Tired of this meme

As someone who never played Undertale and reading this thread, I can tell most of /v/ can't make a legit argument on why this, let alone almost any video game is shit. All you need to do is post buzzwords with no context and you won your argument. This thread alone is causing the terms "tumblr" and "SJW" to lose all meaning.

>>324028336
>undertale

+ combat concept ripped off of only one previous title
+ about 2 secrets total
+ small, irrelevant changes based on previous plays

- soundtrack
- humor
- characters
- sprites
- engine
- so linear you simply head to the right 90% of the time
- too easy
- puzzles might as well not exist
- genocide contains 1% of the story and locks you out of over 90%
- no relevant progression

FTFY. If you like the humor or characters, you're confirmed straight out of tumblr. If you like the soundtrack, you're confirmed half-deaf. If you think there are many secrets, you're confirmed born in 2005 or later.

>>324028361
>if I samefag with my phone and my computer it's not really samefagging
Tumblrite please go.

>>324026223

>> Letting other people dissuade you from the things that interest you because they're subhuman garbage...

Seriously? Is that what /v/'s problem is?

You guys do know the fanbase doesn't affect how you play a game right?

>>324021508
I mean...shit.

/thread

>>324028168
You think I'm kidding? Not all church is "boring" by a long shot. It just depends.

>>324028846

This is exactly /v/s problem, if people /v/ doesn't like never talked about the game /v/ would love it.

>>324028804
>no two people out of the millions on this site can share an opinion
retard pls go

>>324028361
hour and a half in ms paint

>>324028413
>explains why you're wrong
>"tumblrinas everybody!"
Is tumblr the only place where people are alowed to have viable arguments?
Do you even know what a rebuttal is?
By now you just seem like an autistic dropkick.

>>324024732
The demo was only the tutorial. Of course people didn't dislike it back then. None of the cancerous SJW shit was there, none of the stupid trying to hard to be meta story was there, the only characters were toriel and that depressed ghost so you didn't have any of the horrible characters. the game was still easy as fuck but it was a tutorial, too bad the game stayed extremely easy throughout, with only one or two boss fights that are even half difficult.

It's not like the consensus on /v/ changed its opinion overnight just because it got popular. The full game got released and people saw all the stupid shit in it.

>>324029109
So you're officially confirming that you're actually two employees for the same marketing company?

>>324029063
yep like witcher, fallout, bloodborne and mgs5.
oh wait

>>324029063

Jesus Christ the culture on /v/ has become so fucking toxic.... I used to come here to figure out what the worthwhile games du jour were.... guess I still have /vg/ for that....

>>324029267

What SJW shit is in the game other than lesbian parody and a gay couple?

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>>324028704
>>- soundtrack
0/10 bait, you need to make it sound as a real person

>>324029256
Yes, now go back to tumblr where you belong.

>>324029370
>fact is parody
>not reading
>>324023380
>>324023653
T U M B L R
U
M
B
L
R

>>324029256

The "haha its tumblr so its invalid" argument was stale two years ago....

I just lump those Anons in with the toxic part of tumblr and ignore them.

>>324029331
This... I guess it's time to go back to tumblr... and never come back to this toxic place

>>324029480

You didn't even read the replies to your own post.

>>324029331

Using the term toxic and your overuse of ellipsis ruins your comment.

>>324029563

tumblr has the same shit taste you do, mate.

>>324029591
These /v/ people just can't hold an argument. you're not allowed to have an opinion here. I think I'll just go back since it's too toxic these days.

>>324029386
So you are an autistic dropkick.
Ok that explains everything you've said.

>>324027382

>You know how obnoxious teenagers are, right? Especially the obsessed fan kind?

I get what you're saying, and am glad you recommended to her regardless.

I'm a teacher in Korea and I have to hear about League of Legends and phone games every day. So I can understand her annoyance.

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>>324029672

How bout some nice spaghetti today, Anon?

>>324029778

Why did you post like 3 times using the word toxic, are you trying to falseflag?

>>324029810
Hah, funny enough I taught in Suwon-si (South Korea) last year and I experienced the same thing. Initial joy from the fact that my students love video games, followed by the realization that they only play League.

>>324029883

This is what happens when summerfags think they've been around long enough to be Big Men with Big Ideas.

They'll only ever be summerfags tho.

>>324029841

The thread is literally about shitting on tumblr and SJWs and both ellipsis and the word toxic is used ad nauseam by both.

>>324021206

This

/Thread

>>324021206
>>game takes off, would have just died off like all other indie shit without the media push
except undertale became big way before people started imagining headcanon sexuality of obvious defined characters and even places like SA are banning tumblrshit from undertale threads

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>>324029980

Oh, but Anon! I have your favorite sauce!

>months later and /v/ is still jelly of the best rpg in the last decade

I honestly don't care about you guys think. I am the first to admit that /v/ usually has great taste in games, dispite what everyone jokes about. In this case though I have to say you are wrong. It is a work of love that many games lack these days. The last game that had that kind of love involved was Shovel Knight. Also I am judging this as a game. That mean no fan bases and no creator personality. Once you take that away, you have an extremely unique game that is a breath of fresh air, I don't think anyone can deny me that.

>>324030739

Modern /v/ doesn't give a shit about the game itself, with so many twitter cap threads, e-celebs and journo threads it's extremely hard to get an opinion that doesn't have to do with people.

Anime - tier cringe

>>324030305
This is what tumblrinas actually believe!

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>>324030739

/v/ has excellent taste for systems (God Hand, Dragon Dogma, Killing floor,etc), a healthy mistrust for mainstream gamerculture (doritos pope, halo) , and it's best moments, shows righteous indignation when indie developers confuse tokenism with "progress"

What /v/ is shit at is understanding and accepting change. That's why the conservative mentality has gotten a stronghold here, even when it has nothing to do with games (mainly politics.) If /v/ had it its way, we would still be playing 90's and early 2K's games with Crysis graphics for the rest of human life on earth.

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>>324023836
>MC is canonically female

>>324031513

Why does /v/ dislike /vr/ so much if that is true?

>>324023169
more magic numbers != better game

>>324031513
>/v/ has excellent taste for systems

Systems don't equal games. /v/ only likes them because everything else that makes a game tends to appeal to human emotion, something /v/ is terrified of because Aspergers.

>it's best moments, shows righteous indignation when indie developers confuse tokenism with "progress"

I rarely see anything approaching that level of nuance here.


>What /v/ is shit at is understanding and accepting change.

What /v/ is shit at is being human.

>>324031513

It really sucks /v/ is really the only unhinged place for video game discussion.

>>324030739
/v/ is not monolithic. In the whole, /v/ fucking loves this game, which is why other people find it so annoying.

>>324031513
I'm not sure what you mean by "accepting change." Do you mean things like the rise of mobile gaming, social integration and VR? Streaming? What new trends in video games does /v/ seem hostile to?

>>324020906
We had a pretty good Undertale thread yesterday, are you just butthurt Toby banked off our memes and you didn't?

>>324031968
Did you notice that /v/ was literally the only place on the internet where people were actually having a conversation about Fallout 4 being shit?

>>324031608

Outdated graphics and certain conventions. It is a moving target, of course. Wait a few years and people will start massively shitting on Silent Hill 2 or things like that.

Scenario A:

>Game X is released.
>It flies under the radar and no one is talking about it.
>Anon plays game X and does not enjoy it.
Anon: "Meh, it's not very good"

Scenario B

>Game X is released.
>It becomes popular and gains a lot of critical acclaim.
Anon: "This memegame is fucking shit 0/10"


It's fine if you didn't enjoy Undertale, taste is subjective and no humour is ever going to appeal to everyone, but the amount of vitriol and hatred some of you guys spew at this game is just pathetic.

Have just a little bit of self awareness people.

>>324032210

Talking objectively about a game failing to meet expectation is a good thing, shitting on a game purely for it's fanbase is not.

>>324024704
I mean... It is homestuck: game. And homestuck is for garbage people.

>>324032126

Those are good examples, but more generally, /v/ hates when a developer takes a risk to push the boundaries and makes,as a result, a flawed but original games. /v/ hates it particularly when such attempt gains ANY kind of traction (and goes berserk when it becomes popular)

The rest of the world is starting to see games like movies or books. /v/ instead, looks at games like cars: they must be beautiful, cutting edge, and powerful, faster... but fundamentally the same in terms of function.

>>324032670
I don't know how true this is, though. Indie games are pretty popular on /v/ and have a huge following. They love games that are good design-wise. Risk of Rain is a good example.

Maybe I'm just not thinking of the things you are specifically referring to. Can you give examples of games /v/ hated because they took risks?

Because it tries too hard to be quirky.
Because people for some reason keep comparing it to Earthbound while it's nothing like it.

>>324032282
Scenario C

>game is released
>grindfest without any endgame
>and the crowds of /v/ go wild

>>324032670
>generally, /v/ hates games
I just cut some of the extraneous words from your post.

No idea why you try to put so much thought into what a perceived hivemind of /v/ thinks. This place is a contrarian shithole. Not just /v/, but all of 4chan.
Look at /tv/, those faggots are actually praising the Star Wars prequels now.

I'm not saying real discussion can never be had, but the immediate reaction to everything is "it sucks and you're a faggot for liking it".

>>324030520
They're jealous of LISA? Why's that? Why bring up the best rpg of the decade when this is an undertale thread.

Why /v/? Why must you always talk about literally anything other than the game itself?

>>324032940

Spec Ops: The Line (flawed but an original take on shooter's narratives) Gone Home (very flawed but a reversal of expectations in FPS exploration) Tomb Raider (takes a system's based franchise and adds flawed narrative depth) come to mind

/v/ will put up with mediocrity as long as is tried and true. But if a developer is trying something new and doesn't come near perfection, 'v'v flips out. It really takes a "Journey" level of quality to be both innovative and adored in this site. Otherwise, make another Shantae or Doom 2 mod

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>spend weeks mistaking Undertale for Undergarden
>appreciate that anons are talking about one of my favorite games but wonder why it has so many autists and shitposters

They need to put a stop to Under[word] titles

>>324033901
Hopefully Toby will patent the word "Under" so as to avoid other video games capitalizing on this.

>>324034015
Undergarden came first and was more fun though so ai think all other Under games should relenquish their titles, or allow the devs to fight for them in a pay-per-view event

>>324033265
>have to grind in undertale
holy shit git gud

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kek

>>324020906
It was ALWAYS tumblr the game

something something tumblr

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>>324021046
So it's pretty much as progressive as Mario 2 was fuggin 20 years ago.

No, you all look at it wrong way.
>you find yourself among folks that differs from you
>they are generally hostile to you, and even when they don't do it on purpose they harm you and even kill
>even the cool skeleton guy is not hiding the fact that he would kill you if it wasn't for his goat friend
>all this is justified by their folk legends and beliefs
>it is very much reviled of you try to fight them back, even in self-defense
>in fact you should keep asking fish lady to be friends as she is beating jesus out of you

It is a progressive game alright.

>>324038217

Oh look, a screenshot of a stupid person saying something stupid, how insightful.

Do you have anything to say about the game itself anon?

>>324038887
Sorry did you get triggered by that image?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UhHfGAV3R8&feature=youtu.be

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>>324038887
sure do.

HEY!!! ANIME AND SPAGHETTI!!! LOOK A TRASH CAN!!!! HEY GUYS LOOK WE'RE JUST ALL JUST STUPID CHARACTER TROPES WITH NO SUBSTANCE!!!! *poses*

>>324039086

Come on anon, you're not even trying anymore.

You can do better than that.

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Pic related once again shows its relevance when it comes to topics like these.

/v/, you're more than welcome to hate Undertale, but only if you have a non-hypocritical opinion. Sadly, that's very hard to come by on this board.

>>324039595
none of those things are the reason i hate tumblrtale

>>324039595
>Strong women are Sjw pandering
Who says that? All I ever hear is that if you make the woman fat with colorful hair and lesbian that makes her Sjw

>>324039808

That's fine then. As long as it's a fair and logical reason to hate it.

>>324039595

So there's no way to hate how one piece of media handles something and like how a different piece of media handles something, when they have nothing in common?

>>324039595
Luckily I don't like any of the games on the right so even by your shitty table I can say

Undertale is a fucking travesty

>>324040113

>they have nothing in common
This is false. The examples I show are the EXACT same tropes, just slightly dressed up differently. Why would you hate one, but like another when there isn't even a difference?

You can't just argue semantics, that does nothing to support the argument at hand.

>>324039256

>HEY GUYS LOOK WE'RE JUST ALL JUST STUPID CHARACTER TROPES WITH NO SUBSTANCE!!!!

You could make that same argument about 95% of all characters ever created in fiction.

I get that Undertale isn't fucking Shakespeare or anything, but that still doesn't justify how hated it is around here.

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>>324040260

That's all I wanted to hear. At least maintain a constant, well thought out opinion that doesn't backfire on itself, and there's no problem. You can shit on Undertale all you want if it makes you feel better. Like said, I'll even defend your freedom to say it, even if I don't agree.

That is what /v/ is about, right? Not being a hugbox for jerking off opinions, but a place for well thought arguments to clash in a reasonable, moderate fashion.

>>324039595
>strong women in games are awesome
>unless their image panders to unrealistic men's fantasies and symbolise oppression of women

See, two sides can play it.

>>324040549

I never said that though. Yet this thread is complaining about Undyne because "she isn't in the kitchen where she belongs!" which is a little sexist.

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Was his biggest mistake create Undertale?

>>324038641
Wait what part was Mario 2

>>324041867
I merely said that crossdressers and strong female characters were present in games as far as 20+ years ago (example being Mario 2) and ever since, and yet Undertale is considered innovatory on this field.

>>324042160

I don't get it. Why does/v/ support Mario then if strong female characters is considered "feminist pandering"?

Like /v/ said, gameplay can never make up for pandering to SJWs. So it's just odd to me.

>>324041039

I don't recall anyone saying that in here, you sure your in the right thread?

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>>324020981
>>324021046
>>324021056
>>324021116
I just want hiroshima to nuke /v/ for a couple of months

>>324042689
erhem
>>324021046

>if your woman doesn't conform to the stereotypical straight house wife, it's "progressive shit"

>>324042738
And let these retards infest the rest of the place?
No thank you.

>>324041205
Looking like a faggot was

>>324042738
>wanting to censor criticism of a mediocre game you just happen to enjoy
>being this much of a tumblrfaggot.

>>324042738
Fuck off Reddit.

>>324020906
Because there's a lot of fanart of the game on tumblr, which, by HUGE coincidence happens to be the place where most fanart goes.

>>324042817
I guess /v/ really is a containment board. I mean, even /tv/ has better discussion.

>>324042801

I stand corrected.

Nothing post like that one don't really stick in my memory, especially when it is 5 hours old.

Here's a fun game.
Replace every "Tumblr" in this thread with "/v/"

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>>324020906
it became popular

>How did this become tumblr: the game?

it's just not for the current environment of reactionary /pol/ infested neo-stormfr-i mean neo-/v/.

>>324021917
so much better not even fucking kidding

>>324042564
I don't know, I can't speak for the others.

But it seems we are in the dark together, I also don't understand why Undertale is proclaimed a flag game of progress; Undyne being a symbol of feminism when Lara Croft or Bayonetta could take this position long ago?
Why old games are reviled for making villains out of crossdressers (Flea, Birdo, Poison), while Mettaton is as much of a bad guy?

>>324040440

not the guy you were replying but he's right, the game is so short that every character gets a very small amount of on screen time, they use that to beat you over the head with their trope and never do anything else

i like the part where you "befriend" undyne because it's the only part of the game that breaks that mold a little

>>324040467
>Not being a hugbox for jerking off opinions

/v/ is the neo-reactionary movement's safe-space now.

i blame gamergate.

>>324020906
it became tumblr the fanbase
the game itself only has two tumblr-like things
Moldbygg and Alphys
a mook and everyone's least favorite character

>>324020906
Jesus, how long is this shit going to last?

The game is popular so people hate it. The game itself is an interesting little thing and if you have any questions, just play it yourself or fucking watch any of the MILLIONS of plays on youtube.

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Not only is undyne a fictional character but also gay.
>tfw you will never pound that prime pussy even if she existed

>>324044559
I feel you, man. Mettaton may be gay, but he has no genitals.

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>>324020906
Maybe its because I dont leave /v/ but I dont see anything wrong with the fanbase.

>>324020906
What do you mean? It was pretty fun, some puns were pretty good, and the music was great. And I didn't notice any landwhales in my playthrough.

>>324021450

Millennials cannot into the maths

>>324044675
furfags
SJWs
Reddit
Let's players
Cringe
Wit that combination of groups, there's basically nobody who can defend the fanbase without outright ignoring one or more parts of it

>>324044675

They're completely average on the spectrum of fanbases. They make porn, go to conventions, etc.

When they start defending microtransactions, pay2play online, region locking, censorship, and stagnation of genres like shooters and platformers, THEN they can be called the worst.

>>324044806

Then you obviously never saw the "true" pacifist ending.

>>324024704

>furry goat mom
>furry gay goat dad
>literal fish bitch
>"The Cheat" knockoff
>bear trader
>rabbit trader
>literally everything except the retarded and fat skeletons are animals, and the flower but who gives a shit

How isn't it?

>>324044902
I'm having trouble caring.

>>324024516
You are in the wrong board. For shitty music taste go to /mu/

>>324042564
Well maybe then there's something wrong with Undertale, not with /v/?

>>324027341

>don't have to interract with the millennial tumbr fanbase
>literally 5 tumblrmeme threads every hour

I'm sorry, but you must be blind, or stupid, or both. It's probably both.

>>324045114
same here, and that's why I like undertale even though it's fanbase sucks

What is the point on going on /v/ anymore if you actually like videogames? No one here likes videogames, just hate everywhere because of muh boardculture. Fucking neo/v/

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If only Toby Fox listened to his fanbase when he was making the game, we would've taken a great game and made it perfect.

Pic related, the perfect undertale.

>>324045203
>millennial tumbr fanbase

if you're not a millenial you're too old to be on this board

seriously the youngest estimate for a gen-xer would be 35 now.

Why do people even try to change the opinions of shitposters?

>>324045481
I like how he perfectly preditcted /v/s reaction to it and even gave it 4 days for /v/ to start memehating it. He was close, it took around 7 days or so

>>324023836
>MC is canonically female

Back to tumblr, faggot.

>>324045718
Because 90% of /v/ are shitposters

>>324042878
do you honestly think this garbage passes for criticism

reevaluate your life

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>/v/ shits on the game
>play it to see what all the fuss is about
>solid 8/10 game

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>>324027341
if i hadn't played undertale before the fanbase reached critical autism levels i probably wouldn't have played it.
there are autismos in every fanbase, but when the vast majority is the autismos, it gets embarassing. Especially when you can't go one youtube video without some mongrel not even a quarter of my age RPing as an undertale character or posting undertale related memes
i just hope the popularity dies down, so that I dont feel so ashamed that I have similar tastes in videogames as a person who masturbates to shadow being a toilet.

>>324045718

Because occasionally one of those shitposters responds with a well thought out point that makes you re think your own position on the topic at hand.

I have yet to see this happen in an Undertale thread though.

>>324046510
>i just hope the popularity dies down
This is the worst fucking thing about /v/. The pretencios hipster fuckboi attitude. Guess what, 4chan is popular too, why are you still here?

"my last wish for undertale is that when discussion of it fades it dies peacefully instead of morphing into a garbage cesspool" - tobey maguire

>>324020906
Because you fucking faggots keep putting up a thousand threads a day

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>>324020906
>become

>>324046756
Guess how I know you didn't even read anon's post?

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>>324046756
it's not about being a hipster you fucking pickle tickler
it's about not wanting to see it everywhere i go, on every damn youtube video and that general shit.
i don't give a fuck if a game is popular, but if a game is popular AND has a rabid fanbase, aspergers suddenly present everywhere

>>324028395
roll

>>324046510
>so that I dont feel so ashamed that I have similar tastes in videogames as a person who masturbates to shadow being a toilet.

This kind of mentality really baffles me. Why should you feel ashamed of liking something that is also liked by people who you don't like?

No offence but that sounds like hipster rationality to me.

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>>324045481
Always post this after that

>>324039595

Nice strawman, you autistic sperglord, literally nobody on /v/ has ever said any of this shit.

>>324046916
He isn't clever in pointing that out. He knew exactly what he was fucking doing. He just said that because it makes him look like some awesome, cool, insightful and non-egotistical dude.

Yet Toby was going "HUR DUR ALL DOES MGSV FAGS ARE DOWN VOTING ME ON META LOL MY GAME IS BETTER THAN MGSV LOL KOJIMADRONES". And when people called him on being a cunt, the TDF comes up going "j-j-just a prank bro!".

Hell, Honest Trailers did a trailer for Undertale, and guess what fucking happened in their comment sections?

>/v/ is a containment board
Where did everything go so wrong

>>324047684
if you were playing and enjoying a vidgam only to go online and find out that the entire fanbase consists of people who like to fuck their own dogs and eat their own shit, wouldn't you feel ever so slightly uncomfortable?

>>324047560
Have you tried ignoring it? Just buy/pirate the game, close your internet and play it. Is that so hard?

>>324047985
2007 and 2011

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at least it has good music

>>324048553

Are you saying it's all ugly fat chicks? WOW, I DIDNT SEE THAT ONE COMING, WHAT AN INSIGHTFUL PICTURE

>>324048553
Fat/ugly people always cosplay, how is this new?

>>324048667
No, I'm saying that it at least had good music

>>324047853
see>>324021046

Nobody had a problem with Birdo or Flea, but the second Metatton makes his appearance, everyone flips their lids.

This is why I hate games like Mario and Bayonetta and Chrono Trigger. Bunch of SJW trash.

>>324044980
Well, to be honest, I haven't. I've just cleared the Neutral Route. By the time I learned that you don't have to kill anyone, I was up against Undyne. I don't mind spoilers, so what does the pacifist ending got to do with tumbr?

>>324048342
2007 had TBBT, portal and xbox 360
But what about 2011? Cant remember anything specific

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>>324048553
>All those cosplays behind the decent Undyne in the front
What the fuck is the juggalo in the wheelchair suppose to be, Flowey?

>board likes thing
>thing gets popular and praise from external websites
>Tumblr also starts liking thing
>board gets mad when thing gets this popular
>board will start being contrarian and say they hate/always hated thing

This is not a /v/ thing

>>324047985
2008, 2011, 2014

>>324034423
how do you know that it was more fun if you didn't even know they were different games?

>>324048553
I'd fug the front fish

>>324020906
Keep making thread Op!

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>>324048667
>>324048717
>>324048953
>>324049282

>very good cosplay front and center
>hurrr durr all of them suck because of the few in the back

Who's the SJW now, /v/?

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>>324026485
maybe you should actually actively share your videogame and do some advertising?

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>>324047920
You mean this?

Because to be honest it's hard to not see how he was joking here.

>>324041039
Fuck off back to tumblr, you cunt.

>>324023435
Bandwagoning shitposters who have no real identity and take after everything they see someone on /v/ spout.

The sad part is, the people who spam these tumblr images of Undertale had to have visited tumblr in the first place to find them.

>>324049969

Oh what, so I can't be concerned about the industry making women out to be nothing but sex objects, and lambasting the women who aren't just walking pairs of tits and asses?

It's not like I'm asking for all women to be represented by 500 pound hamplanets with their hair died neon green. I just would like some moderation.

>>324042878
>meme spouting is criticism
only on /v/. it's no wonder this place is the laughing stock of the internet.

>>324050535
Why are you on this website? It clearly isn't for you.