I played the game on russian servers for free. western "beta" are a joke since they are just translating the game, it's been out in korea for years, you didn't test anything nor discovered anything that we didn't know already.
All my potential interest in BnS died when I saw the cash shop in game during beta. Also all the retarded faggots that said the action combat was better than TERA are either ignorant retards or just blatant shitposters.
Only thing that will make BnS not fade into complete obscurity right away is because it's F2P from the get go.
A ton of crafting stuff as well as treasure chest keys with no RNG involved. Sure everything says you can also get it from DAILY dungeons/quests but doesn't change the fact the shop is essentially P2W.
you don't know how MMO's work do you?
>let me posta completly unrelated picture that in no way proves the game is P2W or that low level suddenly give you advantage on higher level
Tera is fun and I love pve but the pvp is bland as shit. You're either permanent stunned, 1 hit killed, or kited by something with more range than you.
There's very little room for out playing in tera, unless it's a mirror match.
I read it somewhere, also, I remember the trailer being censored if compared to the JP version.
Look up the NA trailer for BnS and the japanese trailer, some characters got their clothing or armor changed, which most of us refer to it as censorship.
Why are you calling me a retard, though?
I'm doing my best giving you all the info I got at the moment, but I do like to keep something in mind, and that is that they stated they wouldn't censor the game and respect the artist's vision.
However, that was posted years ago, before the SJW bullshit.
Wheel is RNG. I never got cash shop currency through it, just a bunch of shit I couldn't really make any use out of, and costumes. Costumes was nice I guess.
>Game has Open world PvP
If you say the shop is not P2W, you are essentially saying anyone who doesn't P2W their way during the level grind are forced to stay out of engaging in the open world PvP. Are you retarded?
Pay 2 savetime has nothing to do with pay2win.
There's nothing you can buy in the cash shop that increases your damage at level cap. No high level person had an advantage over another based on cash shop purchases.
Did you actually even bother googling if the costumes or breast physics were censored on NA/EU? THEY ARE NOT CENSORED
Wheel didn't have costumes and you always got 200 for completing the wheel, try playing the game before spreading your shit. The stuff in the cash shop doesn't help lower levels because the crafting materials is given to you in quests.
I want to try it but I don't want to spend money on it until I play and see if I like it. If I like it then I might buy stuff. But the founders packs won't be available anymore at release. What a conundrum.
>tfw don't know if I wanna play blademaster or assassin
Is there class-only armor in this game? Or does the look of armor only differ per race.
I honestly don't know much about censorship in the game but the underwear was changed I think but there were a bunch of posts during betas saying the default underwear became an actual costume in NA/EU or whatever and we got shorts and tanktops instead as the default underwear.
I only played during one of the beta weekends and didn't get enough time to actually complete a wheel round, I explicitly remember getting a costume from it however but it could've just been a beta thing.
Oh okay, I was just wondering because that would influence my choice in class but guess I'll just go with assassin since I tried blademaster when this game was in korean beta..
NA and EU are the same client under the same company
I played all betas, none of the wheels had costumes. Treasure trove has Christmas costumes for free but is different from the wheel.
My PC is like 4 or 5 years old and I can run this game alright, wouldn't worry too much unless you're playing on some ancient laptop.
>Look up the NA trailer for BnS and the japanese trailer, some characters got their clothing or armor changed
Weird, since the game has the exact skin as kr
Here we go
>infernal lords horn
level 36 raid item , always given at the end of the raid.
drops from any level 36 or lower dungeon in the cinderlands map
level 20 raid drop, always given at the end of the raid
drops from level 10 dungeons
I understand the concerns, tho, since the plot was butchered to oblivion. But honestly, the game takes away too much control. I didn't feel I had choices, or anything I did mattered, so I stopped caring about the plot
It's weird that the same skin changes between races anyway
In reality new MMO nowadays have very fun gameplay, but they always ruin it with the boring generic and linear quests.
In this game quests are either:
-collect drops from monsters
-kill x amount of monsters and/or strong monster
-activate some contraption (moving a crate from point A to B 5 times)
level cap in beta was level 45. It'll have this cap changed to 50 in some months after the launch
In lvl 45, you have to farm pvp stuff, which is faction related stuff. In lvl 50, it's Tower of Mushin
Sorry, meant story. The other kind of plot is nice and you have a lot of control
>And the raids after that are?
Big 4 dungeons
24 man Poh (easiest)
6 man Poh (medium)
4 man Poh (hard, removes all skill indicators from bosses)
Mushin tower solo instance
24, 6 and 4 man BSH
Labyrinth 6 and 4 man
Labyrinth is the final raid dungeon of 45 then we move on to level 50 content.
So the cash shop doesn't offer the current level-cap crafting materials, yeah the whole thing is pretty shady and they'll probably add more of them when level cap increases but so far there doesn't seem to be any P2W then
>let me check out the /vg/ general
>gays writing stuff like "I want to fuck that lynboy in his boypussy"
>what the fuck, let me check other community sites for this game
>same shit, filled with mentally stunted manchildren
yeah I think I'll pass on this game.
It's from the crafting menu, not very exciting but you make a ton of gold from it.
They said they would add level 45 stuff to the cash shop once 50 is released. It makes sense since the upgrading system uses your level 1 weapon and upgrades it to a level 50 weapon so catching up for new players can be bothersome.
how are the raids in this?
party size, mechanics difficulty, healing?
NC doesn't like Steam for some reason. Aion, a 5 or 6 years old, was just added to Steam a few months ago, but it took them too much time for that
I played Aion, another NC game, for a long time. It's weird how it works, but it does. But I'd always pay attention. Lineage 2 was beyond P2W and became "Pay to stay relevant", and Aion suffered about P2W items when it became a dead horse
I can't really decide between assassin and destroyer. During the beta I got to level 13-14 or so with, but that didn't help me pick between the two.
I'll be playing the game with three other friends: a kung fu master, a blade master, and a force master. I'm under the impression the first two are kind of tanky, at least as much as a class can be in this game, but between assassin and destroyer, what do you guys think would be the better choice?
>paying to play a f2p
why would you waste your money like a little bitch if, you didn't need it you could of donated it to charity instead of wasting it on a game that won't last more than 3 months
I'm a girl, so I just got the most expensive founders pack for free.
I've never done a dungeon or a raid in this game so I don't really know what to expect, or whether one of the two classes brings something uniquely beneficial to the table. Of course destroyers can grab things, but don't assassins have their own pros beyond stealth and mobility?
Either way both were a lot of fun when I played them in the beta, so I'd enjoy either, but at least initially I don't think I'll be able to maintain two characters and keep them leveled up.
>im a huge retard please rape my face
Is there anyway to speed up the Launcher for loading the game? The giant Dragon/BnS logo stays on my screen for about three to five minutes before the game starts.
Only game that does it too.
I need some bro who will explain if this is alpha/beta or w/e release that will clear your progress anyway? Also is this coming out in EU aswell and if it's b2p/p2p/f2p (p2w or not)? I didn't follow this game for a long time and i'm clueless
Headstart is for people who bought a founder pack, it's not being wiped and f2p begins on the 19th. NA and EU are the same client under the same company.
Gear doesn't matter in arena, you can enter with a level 1 broken weapon while naked and have the same stats as someone with max gear.
lingerie, nurse outfit, school girl costume if they release them.
Get one, Blade & Soul has shit loading times without one.
I can boot the game in 40 seconds
I'm excited to play this game again on the 19th but having to download the whole thing again is buttfuck retarded.
Oh and I'm not playing Destroyer again. What a boring shit class. I was thinking of just going BM since there's more mobility pshh nothin personnel stuff involved.
>but having to download the whole thing again is buttfuck retarded.
Only took me an hour.
I enjoyed Destroyer because you can go full CURAYZEEEE
Think I might try Sin this time though for some stealth shenanigans.
I can boot the game in 40 seconds
Bullshit, people with Alienware™ told me that they didn't have any loading time
Man, all that Alienware shilling in the alpha/beta was astounding
> Only took me an hour.
I don't have American internet, bro.
> full CURAYZEEEE
the fuck are you smoking? jump > grab > molest > throw down ain't crazy at all and that's what they do 100% of the time on everything except those fucking big bosses you can't molest just hold while you jackyourself off with your free hand
To bad that Tumblr/SJWs are signing petitions for them to censor the game even more.
They already censored a large chain quest because it involved an old pervert and helping him get into the womans spa area. They're planning on editing all the NCSoft Coin Tier armor to be censored and slowly censor the majority of clothing.
It was in a post a few months ago. I think the /vg/ still post it to trigger people.
God dammit Korea. Started this shit in Tera and it spreads like wildfire.
> play closed beta
> english voices are fucking awful, as expected
> download the Japanese patch
> only patches like 40% of the game, rest is still in god awful English
I'd put up with Chinese or Korean voices as long as I don't have to listen to this garbage. Why the fuck no audio options on a 15gb+ game?
>/v/ think they'll be playing a MMO from ncsoft on launch day
DID IT JUST COME OUT OR IS IT JUST THE HEAD START
BLEH I SHOULDA GOTTEN THE HEAD START MMOS ARE ALWAYS BEST EARLIEST
HOW'S THE COMBAT IT LOOKS FUN IS IT FUN?
Fuck everything nice i guess.
how hard did they censored the lewd outfits?
its pretty much the biggest reason to play this game.
NC never does dual audio, which is weird since you can find the korean voices in their games if you dig between your files. People have to resort to patches, and even then, NC loves to fuck the config so these patches can't be used
They're mostly censoring the Lyn outfits (which doesn't bother me) the clothing you've posted should be ok but they might make the bottoms more cloth. One of the biggest things they'll be censoring are g-string outfits and whenever we start to see the dip to the crouch of the vag.
Didn't this game look like shit?
I remember seeing footage ages ago and the characters had insane stupid proportions, like legs thrice as long as the rest of the body while stick figure thin and shit
The games just out too damn late for me to give a damn in the West. I've been playing it for years in KR, and got about everything out of it that I wanted to them. I want something new for an MMO, not leftovers from 4+ years.
Right. Fucking Vindictus, that was before I upgraded from a toaster. But Blade and Soul shouldn't be older than Tera though.
Either way, I wouldn't mind finding some bullshit excuse of racism or sexism to get the company to make all classes available to all races.
yes, it looks like shit
women have disfigured proportions and twig arms and it looks retarded
this coming from a guy who faps to pretty much anything, you simply can't overlook how moronic this game's models look
But they already did with a large chain quest in-game. And brutally censored the majority of the BnS story for a dumber shonen story, they're also removing the entire time travel shenanigans and we're getting an entirely new story created by our NA Censor/Translating team they're going to be hyping up in a few months.
It was announced at E3 2007, I know because my friend was hype as fuck over it and it took until 2012 for it to get released in KR and till 2016 to come to the states, I dropped my BnS hype for the Vindictus beta infact
Not that guy, but the localization is pretty NO FUN ALLOWED
They even took out jokes with crossdressing bandits
I wonder if that's offensive to crossdressing people
Even the fucking mainland Chinese version of BnS probably has less edits to its story/quests
Worse outfits though as they are literally censored
except NO ONE gives a flying fuck about a story in a mmo, they only care about eyecandy sexy outfits and so far in this thread no one, fucking NO ONE bothered to prove it, they just scream censorship and wait for (you)
I actually just started playing Tera after playing BnS on the japanese server for 2 months, I have to say they are pretty similar, personally I think Tera has superior scenic views and BnS has superior close ups.
I'll be honest, m8. I didn't know about the censorship in the story, since all the quest are so fucking boring, I just skipped all the dialogues for them
One thing is censorship something nobody will care, and another thing is applying censorship to something that makes you win money
Besides, the original story also is retarded, since the "ancient evil" has a sword in the past that she couldn't have since she only got it in the future, and there's no explanation in how she got it
Yeah, I just remembered that a few minutes ago. I stand corrected
If you're good at character creation, it looks great. And it's not even difficult like PSO2. The Lyn I made on the Chinese version didn't look freakish like the ones always shown, just a nice loli with completely acceptable proportions for her size.
So what's the combat like? Looks a bit like a hotkey-cycler, but could it possibly be in the good way, like TERA? It seems like there's active dodging, and what about blocking?
you're an idiot if you think it's junk. it has probably the best 1v1 pvp arena in all of mmos enough that people are interested and invested in it.
>i dont care about it so you shouldnt too
thank you for your advice, dumb fuck.
What proof do you even want? And there are actually people who cares about stories in MMOs like FFXIV, sure, MMO stories aren't usually anything to speak of, but the setting is a pretty uncommon one, there might be people who would be interested in Wuxia stuff but get turned off from BnS, and just because it's dumb in the first place doesn't mean they have to make it dumber
just go mod in Chinese/Japanese voices
I don't know what you mean by hotkey-cycler and I haven't played TERA because of region blocking, but things like blocking depend on classes, IIRC Kung Fu Master gets to counter their enemies and Blademaster have a more simpler "block" skill which blocks most attacks for a few seconds
No, it's not tab targeting at all
Someone please answer the important things. I already know I love this MMO's world, but I need to know how the combat is. If there exists an MMO that nails both of these things, for fucking once, I'm sold.
Rank 6 in MMORPGs, 19 overall across all genre.
Who cares about the gameplay lmao you fags post some sluts
Am ready already had my master pack since CBT1
Wait who do you think I'm samefagging? Sorry that I'm excited for a video game.
ye can just say your gay right away m8 it's 2016
>who cares about the girl look at that grass
extra gay m8
>not released yet in EU and NA
>impossible to gauge popularity except from where it originated
>popular in korea
Use common sense you dumbfuck. Unless you're baiting me, then 10/10 you got the hook.
I remember watching the anime of this trash, what's a horrible piece of shit. As expected of gook mmos adaption
fuck yes another MMO featuring oily women with big tits and disproportionate, oversexualized features
who cares about gameplay, story, lore, setting, and all that other shit?
Yeah, in Runescape quests were like rewards for progression. Sometimes they were like little adventure games and others were extra challenging fights but were always a fun way to break up the usual grind and earn big rewards. Quests would open up new/faster ways to train skills, unique sets of armor, shortcuts, towns, and powerful weapons.
I hate that in most MMOs all your progression is through questing because nothing else rewards you for doing it. No point in farming enemies for gear or raising a crafting skill when you automatically get equipment for every little task. No point in wandering around the map because if a quest marker didn't lead you there it means there's no content. But the very worst part is that you can hardly ever play with other people because they're never on the same quest you are. Nothing is more boring than doing on the same 15 crows feet quest over and over again just so your party is finally on the same page. And then they start leaving before you can move forward with your quests because you've all been playing for so long already.
>playing MMOs for anything other than sluts
The only reason this game has the body oil bit is to cover up how terrible clay-like the bodies look in general. The game is so damn dated, but it makes sense given how damn old it is.
It's pretty popular in Japan. Chinks are hard to count because all they play are dota ripoffs and I don't even know how well it's doing there.
>i assume things
good job dumbfuck keep exposing yourself.
>who cares about gameplay
Most of the people who still play this game.
The setting is nice, but the story and lore are dog shit, most new bosses suck dick.
But it's easily one of the best PvP MMOs ever, it has really fucking solid combat.
And if you just want to have a comfy grind you can do it in RS while watching TV or something without having to think about turning it to a npc
shame the combat update turned it into a WoW clone I've heard?
Chinks are hard to count because IIRC there are two Chinese versions, Taiwan and Mainland Chinese which are pretty different
source on that?
not really giving a shit about feminism. i play FFXIV, which is full of lewd cat girls. devs actually give a fucking shit about the game, the story and its universe though, considering it's Final Fantasy. even Guild Wars is a much better option.
what was the last MMO that came out that was like this? Tera? how well did that do? koreans can't make games, they can only make 3D tits
>devs actually give a fucking shit about the game,
>. devs actually give a fucking shit about the game
It's a really fun game, I played the beta like 100+hrs and only stopped because I was getting wiped anyways. There will probably be open beta leading into release in the next few months for the western version.
>devs actually give a fucking shit about the game
Would be a good thing if they weren't total hacks
Only thing that worries me is how indepth it seemed.
I saw all these people making huge guides on how to correctly skill a class and all.
I just feel so lazy when it comes to that. I don't want to spend days in advance planning out my character. But then again if I don't I'll probably regret it hard later on.
Devs actually do care about XIV. Not sure what you all are going on about. Yeah, they aren't throwing assloads of content at you like everyone wants, and they're backpeddling a lot, but it's still an amazing game and you can tell a lot of love has been put into it.
Whatever, you faggots are probably the type that could never be pleased anyway.
I don't know. There was some controversy with the korean launch with the cash shop being ridiculously overpriced and them changing some shit with the marketplace, but I hope the western version will be different or they revert those changes since it made lots of players mad.
It's not that in depth, just lots of options for what classes you want but if you want to minmax there's probably always one best option.
Was going to be the first good MMO in a long time, then they put up the cash shop and made alot of essential shit in it. So either you pay up and become great, or you're just not going anywhere.
I theorize they're pretty understaffed to produce the content people want. Initially they were probably given a shit load of assets because SE wanted them to dig out XIV from the grave it was put into by the previous devs, so they were able to provide as much content as ARR had (not to mention many of the assets were already created). For HW, they likely had a huge budget to hire a bunch of people to get the initial game experience done, but endgame was backlogged and left to the skeleton crew remaining after release.
That being said, XIV is doing incredibly well, especially in Japan, it's just the endgame experience just isn't where people want it to be.
I just hate how in XIV there's an incredibly huge divide IMO between casuals and hardcore raiders in content
if you're not a casual but can't have a fixed schedule like hardcore raiders you're screwed from raiding which is apparently the only thing worth caring for in endgame (among the players) and normal alex gets called "fake" and people just circlejerk over how good coil was
And since you can't join a static and the playerbase are dicks you'll also face obstacles in trying to do content like ex primals
I hope they can make a better expansion next time, first by dropping PS3 support
XIV's endgame was always like this:
>do newest instance in the game x times per week(where x= number of times you get a reward before weekly limit kicks in)
>buy gear with the things you got
>wait for the next update which will add another intance that works the same and the limit from previous one is removed
This is how endgame looks, yes there's a lot of dungeons to do it, but none are worth anything other than the last one. And the gameis simply boring when literally EVERYONE is the same, and I don't mean look-wise, after all XIV is an ERPfaggots wet dream, but every class is the same
>This is how endgame looks, yes there's a lot of dungeons to do it
There was two fucking dungeons out when HW came out for endgame.
Two fucking dungeons. There was no thought or planning into that, they half-assed HW just as much as they half-assed the rest of the other content updates.
>tfw people in wildstar talking about leaving for blade and soul
guys pls don't go, I don't want the game to be even more dead and hopeless than it already is. pls.
Well the endgame for HW was pretty much Alexander, which I will give them, was pretty fun to do, granted I never touched coil so I don't know how it compares. Alex did have the huge disadvantage of people going "savage or fuck off"
Maybe, but XIV is a subscription based game, and HW was an expansionyou had to pay for, while BnS is f2p
>blade and soul
excuse me what?
i think i heard about this game about 10 fucking years ago, yeah 2006
is it happening?
Frankly they could have released 4 dungeons and eventually people would have grown just as tired of them. Players want content, not dungeons. Dungeons are there to be spammed for loot and provide an easy avenue for gameplay.
I'd like to see Diadem fixed, some more trials, and Midas to not be horseshit. Luckily we might be getting all of those.
They're learning. They have never done anything like Diadem before.
Now that they see the way it's currently setup is that people just flock to dino island, vote kick any gatherers, and the outrageous stats on items, they'll hopefully do something about it.
>They have never done anything like Diadem before.
it's just like hunts though. but yeah they need to encourage people to explore in diadem and not just sit on one island but I really do not expect them to fix that, but who knows.
>Void Ark ain't bad
It's bad and doesn't emphasize on the raid dimension at all
If one of the parties failed their DPS check or mechanics in the previous raids, it was a wipe
VA is just zzzzz dps on the static punching bags
It's a complete step down
Crystal Tower was the definition of faceroll, guy.
Except Cerberus. That fight was amazing. But fatboy still wipes every the group in every VA run I do, so it's not like it isn't somewhat challenging.
wanna know something funny?
NC suffered from hackers how found how to create ingame cash in most of its games, so they started to sell stuff for cheaper, so they could sell gold. The result? The company suffered a major loss in sales for about 4 months, so they had to find ways to recover from it
That's probably why BnS is finally coming
I can't blame them. Their only attempts at keeping players to stay is to make shitty events that make them grind content they've played hundreds of times before for housing decor.
You had to have shit groups to wipe in CT too, family. Which is unavoidable with 24 players. The fact it can still wipe shit groups is important, though. Could be like WoW"s LFR where there is literally no chance of wiping ever.
You also have issues where healers don't know what the fuck a tankbuster is and Sickle Strike deletes a tank because why keep tanks topped off?
Is this game x64 or x32? Does it run shit like Tera because it's x32 or does it run smooth as fuck like Warframe?
Never got into mmorpg, what's so special about this one?
Maybe? I went back to it a little while ago for Darkscape. It's the old combat system with inflated numbers, all the members content for free, and world PvP. Making dangerous alliances with people while trying to level up is pretty fun but I don't have the patience to raise up skills like hunting and agility again.
>Anyone else excited about playing this today?
No cause it looks horrible when actually playing the game and it's not an open world rather than some small areas with some small corridors.
It looks like they also have an old school Runescape based on 2007, but you have to pay for membership. And it has weird updates where players vote to add things from the modern version of the game.
Personally I haven't been too bothered by the pvp outside of karamja. Those fuckers know you're there for high level quests/dungeons/ores and carrying a lot of valuable gear.
I started a fansite for Blade and Soul a long time ago (2008/9), around the same time as TERA.
One came out "on time" and the other is coming out five fucking years late.
I have no idea how Blade and Soul Dojo's admins survived, other than selling out to Curse like I advised them not to.