When you want Halo 5 now because they started remaking your favorite classic maps, but at the same time, you don't want to support the future of Halo and a scumbag company like 343i.
Help me out, /v/. What do I do?
I miss Halo 3 multiplayer so much
Why did the Xbone have to be so bad? Why does the Halo franchise have to be locked to a console? Why couldn't they have put in a little more effort and ported the Master Chief collection to PC while they were making it? Do they hate money and success?
What's bad about it then?
The music is as good as you can get without having marty, there's a huge focus on verticality and mobility which is implemented well and adds to the skill ceiling, it actually has good weapon balance unlike all the other halo games, warzone is actually fun, it has the best forge by far, the MP and SP maps have tons of neat routes and skilljumps, it has fucking fantastic ambient dialog that has the best writing since 2, etc
The game's only problem is that the game's story feels like it's just half of a bigger plotline that 6 will finish (if you thought 2's cliffhanger was bad then boy oh boy) and it's lacking a ton of game modes that should have been there on launch; but once it gets them there's legitimately no excuse to not to get the game.
>that do every single thing worse than games that came before are not fucking good
That's just a blatant lie.
It does weapon balance, mobility, vertacality and forge better then every previous halo game, and this is coming from a guy who has played halo and read the books since 2001.
I didn't think so. The missions themselves were fun and well designed, it didn't butcher character's personalities and make them act out of character for the sake of shoehorning in a plot-line that shouldn't happen like 4 did, etc. It's just the missions are a bit short and as I said, the story itself is sorta uneventful and feels like it's just building up to h6.
Because it was made in forge, which is a map maker/editor that uses preset blocks.
Take it from someone who loved Halo. 5 is complete garbage, absolutely nothing good about it. Halo is dead. Don't waste your money like I did on this worthless trash and the god awful Xbone.
Take it from me, some of the forge remakes look better than the originals. THere's a Chiron TL34 remake called Complex, it looks better than the rest of the game itself.
Halo 5 is golden, besides story. Give 343 a brake.
Do you like it when they fuck you in the ass every chance they get?
>Garbage Stories in Halo 4 & 5
>Lying to with false ads that completely misrepresent the game
the list goes on and on faggot
So then why did you bitch at me for liking halo rather then for liking 343 stuff?
Anyways, Halo 4 had a lot of problems, but it wasn't terrble or even bad, just sup par. It's a good halo game that just fell into the toliet and it's covered in a few layers of shit, but under those layers there's still good stuff.
5 is a fucking fantastic halo game that right now is just lacking some content, but it still has way more content then CE, 2, or ODST had.
+ Amazing graphics, almost looks like an xbone game textures aside
+ Point system rewards team play, not just kills, without affecting match outcome
+ Team Mascots
+ A ton of other misc stuff it does that's neat
+ Storm rifle
* Spartan ops is meh
* Music isn't bad but it's not marty
- Loadouts as the default
- Mandatory sprint
- Ordinance is pure shit, at least loadouts can be fun for shits and giggles
- No SP theater
- No FF
- Retarded story with chief and cortana's personalities changing
+ Mobility options well done, sprint isn't bad anymore
+ Weapon balance is fantastic
+ tons of vertacility
+ Great core gamplay
+ Warzone and breakout are suprsingly fun
+ Exuberant Witness is cute! CUTE!
+ Music is as close to marty as you can get without marty
+ Blue team, team mechanics are neat
* forge is elder god tier but we only got it 2 months late
- locke is bland
- Story feels like half a game
- Lacking tons of game modes and has only a few maps
- No split screen
You should clarify why you dislike 343's stuff rather then just say it's shit.
You too, explain fucking why
Both CE and 2's maps are better then 3's. IMO, map wise:
2 > CE > 5 > 3 = 4 >>>>>>> Reach
The thing is, while what 5 has map wise is better then 3, it has way less maps then 3 did.
All the terrain was forged. It started off as a blank space canvas.
> Bungie halo
> 16 player custom game weekends
> Great community maps and screen shots
> No robot announcer
> 343 Halo
> None of this shit happens. For some reason
And you people wonder why 343i is not like Bungie
You actually make me sick to my stomach. I can't believe I'm sitting here arguing with you on why every Halo past Reach is garbage. It should be fucking obvious. The fanbase is dwindling at this point. The only reason people stayed is because they bought an Xbone and have nothing else to play. I want to guess you're like 12 years old and your first Halo was 4. You should re-evaluate your life if yoou actually think the trash they push out is good.
>Those shitty building block textures
>Textures on the map in general
Fucking Christ, and this is a game released in 2015 for fucks sake
You get enough in game points to buy a pack after a single fucking MP match and you can only use those packs in a special bullshit mode anyways, and what you get in a pack is randomized, and you can't use super powerful cards in that special bullshit mode till late into matches anyways.
Buying packs with real money doesn't give you any advantage, it just makes the process faster.
It preforms exactly like scope did in previous games, except now automatics have it too and it makes them less shit, which improves the weapon balance, and it gives alternate modes of fire to some guns.
It's literally a good thing.
>Garbage Stories in Halo 4 & 5
Not gonna defend 4's story, as it's complete shit, but 5's is alright, it just ends too early.
>Lying to with false ads that completely misrepresent the game
You mean like how 2 was advertised wth saving earth and ilovebees, and how 3 was with believe and IRIS, and how all of those misrepresented the game?
The ARGS and marketing campaigns for halo have never been accurate, but I bet you aren't even old enough to know about how 2 or 3 was marketed.
>points out a ton of problems in both 4 and 5
>I can't refute his arguments so i'm just gonna call him a 4baby and not actually say anything!
everyone knows halo's population peaked with 3 and dropped after reach came out
since then they haven't gone back to the 1-3 formula
since then it's been dying/dead for 5 years now, move on
That was intentional. Fans kept asking 343 for little to no textures on forge blocks so they could create more varieties of maps instead of just Forerunner/UNSC themed.
That's what that map uses for the most part. There is still plenty of blocks with textures on them to use in forge.
Yeah, more than half the official maps look like that too, which indicates they were made in forge. The laziness is astounding. But the rest of the game is shit too so that's practically the least of its problems.
You don't even deserve to be fucking acknowledged if you seriously think Halo 5 has better maps than Halo 3. You and your cancer community stay far away from everyone. Enjoy your soulless empty shell of a game.
>Halo 5 sold so poorly that they're still shilling desperately here 4 months after release
Nobody is talking about population.
Halo's population is so low now because COD took over halo's spot as top dog since 2007, and on top of that, 4 and MCC have killed people's faith in the franchise, an the xbone has a ton of bad rep too.
Again, nice job actually not offering any arguments and just goiing "nah your opinions are shit". 3's maps aren't bad, but they are a huge step down from CE and 2's maps. 5's maps return to the design phiolophies CE and 2 had.
Also, 3 had the two worst halo MP maps ever, snowbound and isolation.
I'm betting you got into the series with 3.
Are you literally retarded or why do you think that your few dollars will ruin the developer? Stop thinking you could make a difference. You're just a worthless maggot for them.
>Halo's population is so low now because COD took over halo's spot as top dog since 2007, and on top of that, 4
except 3 survived for years after its release where h4 died within a year and had less players than 3
That's true, but obviously, for later titles, a lot of people choose to go with CoD games over halo games, especially since COD has a yearly cycle while halo has a 3 year cycle
>only 3000 people playing Halo 5 at peak
>I find it ironic you guys are talking about maps in h5 since I just watched this shit and couldn't stop laughing
>they really only have one slayer map eh?
There were 9 base maps, 3 forge canvases (bigger then sandbox but not as big as forge world), and 7 maps made on forge, and 3 warzone maps at launch. Since then, they've added a bunch of BTB forge maps, 1 new warzone map, and 1 new normal map.
there's gonna be a total of 15 maps added over time, all of them free.
You may actually be retarded. You're telling me that Halo 5's middling, and not to mention, generic as fuck roster of maps are better than Guardian, Sand-trap, The Pit, Narrows, Construct, High Ground, Valhalla, and Last Resort? I've heard literally no one praise Halo 5 maps. As a matter of fact, you're the first. Not only does each map have some of the most generic aesthetics in the series, but they aren't even memorable. No one will be talking about these maps but you. Forge creators are making better maps as we speak.
As much as I mildly enjoyed HW, it was what put the final nail into Ensemble's coffin
Please tell me that's like a pre-pre-pre alpha greybox prototype and not the actual finished map. How did they manage to make it look worse than Halo 3?
Gotta admit the new forge is tempting me.
The campaign of 5 has to be the worst yet, its so fucking boring. Gameplay is good. The multiplayer is barebones as fuck, this game gives battlefront a run for its money in terms of no content
The scripting is what sold it for me.
The fact that some people even made a working ivory tower elevator blows my mind.
not necessarily. I quite like the clean aesthetic of the blocks.
while I haven't played halo 5, I have played the new unreal tournament which has many unfinished maps with place-holder textures not dissimilar to this aesthetic.
It doesn't bother me as I never find multi-player to be an 'immersive' experience anyway and I can imagine what a fully realised AAA version of the map would look like.
>Halo ODST (MCC)
>getting comfy and looking for data logs throughout the city for the last few hours
>achievement for #28 refused to unlock and now I'm unable to get #29, #30 or the achievement for all of them
I don't normally care about achievements, but... I dunno. Is there a word for 'so mad that you can feel your stomach churn like you're about to vomit'?
Forge objects have had "physics" since reach, you can change something from
-fixed (stays in place)
-normal (drops to the ground and is affected by player interaction)
-phased (stays in place and can be moved into other objects and geometry)
But if you want an object to do something specific you can script anything to do pretty much whatever, along with being able to weld blocks together and move it like it was one block.
>Microsoft touting around free maps as if they're equivalent to the DLC maps of old
this is really what upsets me the most. I'm fine and actually happy with them porting over old maps like this but I really hate the sly marketing tactics.
I take that back, there are 3 game types, that work in Forge. CTF, 3-Plots, and Slayer. Its been 4 months since launch and there's still no: Juggernaut, Oddball, Assault, or, the single most popular game mode from the last 2 bungie games, Infection. Please stop shilling your failure of a game Microshit.
Haven't played the game and even I can tell you that it literally doesn't matter; it only applies to their Warzone mode which looks like ass anyway.
>permanent weapon upgrades
wasnt aware of such a thing, guess that makes Warzone all the less fun for new players.
Is BTB in yet?
>which looks like ass anyway.
It's surprisingly fun. I thought it would be a gimmicky "play it once every once in a while" mode but it's really good. Also you earn enough in game points after 1 match to buy a pack anyways, the only reason to ever do iit with real money is to unlock armor faster.
Don't know what permanent weapon upgrades he means, unless he's talking about how the spawn guns in warzone have unlock able variants like all the other guns, but they arent' consumable.
>Is BTB in yet?
Yes, though sadly only with forge maps.
it's a user made forge map.
It feels like four all over again. At least the title screen music for 5 was good. Everything else just feels like generic action movie music.
Just fuck Four's title screen music, I hate it so goddamn much, every time I booted the game up it just pissed me off.
They should've just made Locke into
THE COLE TRAIN BABY.
The game would be so much better as a result, Locke is such a boring fucking brick along with his group of racially sensitive friends, save for Buck of course.
>It feels like four all over again. At least the title screen music for 5 was good. Everything else just feels like generic action movie music.
I don't even remember this track.
Sounds alright I guess, it doesn't really pop out at me though.
I have never played Halo 5 but can you please explain? I find it very hard to believe that it is worst than Halo 4 and thought 343 spent the majority of their development time fixing the multiplayer.
and no putting ads and innate armor abilities does not make it inherently worst than 4
>At least the title screen music for 5 was good. Everything else just feels like generic action movie music.
are you kidding, check out how many replies he got from the simplest shit. thats a little endorphin rush each time right there, baby. do you really argue here yourself thinking your gonna change peoples opinions, or, is it just for that little hit, waiting for your chance to just shit on someone as hard as you can?
admit itttttt. its not the argument. its the arguing.
I really don't know what you're pointing out here, this sounds like it belongs in an Action movie.
This could've easily been playing the background of the fucking Avengers and I wouldn't notice.
halo 5 is okay but there is just something about the maps that is shitty compared to 3 and even 2.
a couple of them are too similar to each other, and there arent any real outdoor maps of any decent size, no vehicles, half of the textures are just flat solid colors
it just makes me want to go back to mcc and play halo 3, but then i remember i get absolutely fucking destroyed playing that game now and half of the team always quits
Halo 5's core mechanics, mainly it's controls and movement system is fantastic. Reward them for their hard work. As long as you don't touch the campaign you won't be disappointed.
no, technically not. since a faster framerate means a faster reaction time, itll help you react quicker, even if a tick rate limits how effectively you use it. argue as small as you want, but a 1 tick rate 60 fps is better then a 1 tick rate 30 fps. the 60 fps could see something at about 3% faster then the 30 fps 1 tick rate sucker...
If you don't like a game then you shouldn't buy it for a single map you used to like. Just get the latest Call of Duty if you need a shooter that bad, that's what Halo is slowly becoming anyway.
They removed local multiplayer, something that the Halo series has always had, that's enough reason to not want to support them.
It's so rare to play a game of 5 where someone doesn't get. I have definitely played more games where someone quits than staying full teams. Sure people quit in Bungie's halos but never anything like 4 and especially 5