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What was the weapon you fell in love with on your first playthrough

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What was the weapon you fell in love with on your first playthrough in every Soul installment?
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I played Dark Souls first and stuck with the Halberd until I eventually got a BKH. Eventually though I came to love the Longsword.

In DeS it's the Bastard Sword.

Bloodborne is the Saw Spear, though I love pretty much all the DLC weapons too.

Dark Souls III will probably end up being a strength weapon, I don't like how light and quick the Longsword looks in that, and the Greatsword weapon art looks irresistible.
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Uchigatana on Dark 1
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I got the BKH on my first playthrough from the first Black Knight with the BKH in the Forest.

It made the game an absolute cakewalk.

Balder Side Sword is still my weaponfu though.
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>>323976819
Anyone who says anything else other then lightning spear is a fucking liar. You either found it and won't admit it, or you didn't find it and fuck you for not playing the game right.
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>Demons

Rapier, just loved the move set


>Dark

Great club. That and the damage output was pretty knarly for a good while.

>Dark 2

Dragonrider's Twinblade was gimped super hard damage wise but the sheer speed of the weapon when its two handed feels nice.

>Bloodborne

Burial Blade is just amazing because of that sick nasty phantom range in PvP is absolute bullshit sometimes. Almost feel bad when I slice some dude up from a mile away.
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Zweihander is the only right answer, if you're not a huge cocksucker.
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>>323977514
Spears are snoresville, m8.
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>>323977514

Or you got the numerous better weapons than the Lightning Spear before getting the Lightning Spear.
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>>323976819
the ones that the wiki says is the best
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DS1: Claymore (yeah... i read wikis on my first playthrough)

DS2: Greatsword
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ds1 it was zweih, then lightning spear, then claymore
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Damont's Shoes: Crescent Scimitar whole game
Dick Balls: uhhhhh lightning scimitar i think, and estoc
Dick Balls 2: beat whole game only using the fire longsword
BreadBarn: threaded cane lol
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Zweihander, DaS 1 and 2
Crowd control all day erry day
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>Demon's
Blueblood sword
>Dark
Washingpole with a hybrid dex/magic build to buff my shit to do like 2000 damage a hit
>Dark 2
lol
>bloodborne
Reiterpallasch
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I like the Mace.

I like to smash things.
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>>323977535
I fucking love it, it's just always so satisfying to land a good heavy strike on some poor sod still in recovery time from a failed attack.
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>>323976819
DaS - Claymore
Das2 - Bastard Sword

I prefer the versatility of a regular GS over the weight and lack of speed on a UGS, although they are fun as fuck when you wanna just smash shit.
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DeS: Penetrator's Sword, War Scythe, Uchigatana, Rapier
DaS: Claymore, Iaito, Halberd, Longsword, Channeler's Trident
DaS II: Manslayer, Longsword, Vanquisher's Seal, Channeler's Trident

Didn't play Bloodborne unafortunately
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>>323977535
Zweihander was a meme weapon
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>Dark Souls 1
Claymore, used it in PvP for around 1.5k hours
>Dark Souls 2
Shid gam but I ended up powerstancing two greatswords
>Bloodborne
Kirkhammer and Amygdalan arm/Kos Parasite
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whats a good ng + weapon? the trusty longsword and its objectively best move set in the game have served me well but it just doesn't have the dps for ng+ 4fags
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>DeS butchers knife
>DaS demon great axe
>DaS2 mastodon halberd
>BB ludwigs great sword

I like damage
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>>323978341
your entire life is a meme
dont talk shit about peoples weaponfus
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>>323976819
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>>323976819
Lightning Spear
My build was fucking horrendous and it did loads more damage than anything else I had because my stats were shit
Also I just cheesed the game with fatrolling and a tower shield after I got the spear
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>>323976819
Longsword in all of them.

Im a pleb
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>>323976819
DaS1: Drake Sword
DaS2: Grand Lance
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DeS was the magic falchion you find in 4-1 or 4-2.

DaS was the Black Knight Sword, but I also loved using the Reinforced Club on my SL1 run.

DaS2 was just the standard battleaxe I bought an hour in and used for the entire game because nothing else seemed interesting and the moveset is nice.
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>>323976819
Demon Souls- Wing Spear. I read a guide that said it was one of the best and I just never swapped it.
DaS- Lightning Claymore
DaS2- Scimitar (I'm boring as fuck)
BB- Cane whip
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>Demon's Souls
Blueball Sword
>Dark Souls
Quelaag's Curved Sword
>Dark Souls 2
Lost Sinner's Sword and Sun Sword/Long Sword powerstance
>Bloodborne
Stake Dinner
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>DeS
Long sword
>DaS
Zweihander
>DaS 2
Great sword
>BB
Holy Moonlight Sword
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>>323976819
This is my sword. I know it's not the best but I love it anyway.
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>>323978313
>Favorite weapon
>Lists 30 weapons
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>>323976819
>DeS
Kilij
>DaS
Velka's Rapier. Yeah, it took a while to find a weapon that I really liked
>DaS 2
Estoc
>BB
Threaded Cane until most of the game.
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>>323976819
CLAYMORE
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>>323978681

>Lost SInners Sword is the coolest looking Greatsword
>Its special effect ruins using it for PvP

Its effect should've scaled the other way, the more sin the more power.
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>>323976819

>DeS

Battle Axe

> Dks

BKS

>Dks2

Large Club

>BB

Kirkhammer
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Kilij
Claymore
Claymore
Saw Spear

boring, I know
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>>323978993
The AR lost is not as significant as the game tells you. That's why it gets overlooked a lot.
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Got a lucky titanite catch pole drop in Parish on my first playthrough. That thing is amazing, you can basically go through the entire game with it with only the bare minimum stats requirements. I have no idea why they even made it available that early in the game
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>>323979098

Yea but it still triggers my OCD.
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>>323979112
Well it's a pretty rare drop.
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>DaS
Zweihander
>DaS2
Greatsword
>BB
Hunter Axe
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demons: long sword
das: lightning zweihander
das 2: mastadon greatsword
bloodborn: Ludwigs
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>>323976819
Only weapon I need for any souls game is a Wiki :)
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>>323978808
My nigger

SKSS all the way up to 4 kings
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>>323979112

Because its like the rarest drop in the game.
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>>323979112
Because its stupid rare drop rate

I've never seen that or a channeler's trident drop and I've had it on PS3 and PC with 1000+ hrs between the two
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Dragonslayer Spear.

I've only ever played DaS1.
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>>323978808

Its not the best but its pretty fucking good.

I really wish you could sheath your weapon in Souls though because its so long it looks goofy when you're just running around.
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>>323978808
I liked the moveset a lot, but didn't used it first because it required twinks which were super rare and a real fucking pain to farm during release.
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Probably the Lucerne in dark souls, I like polearms, and I like war picks/hammers. It also has a nice lunge attack after a backstep, which catches other players off guard pretty often, probably because nobody uses halberds and they don't know the moveset very well.

Can't think of a clear favorite from Demons souls, but I generally used the basic flanged mace that the cleric starts out with, because fuck yeah maces.

I have yet to play DaS2
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>>323976819
Dark Souls
>Zweihander
Dark Souls 2
>Longsword
Bloodborne
>Beast Cutter
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>>323976819
DeS: Bastard sword
DaS: Halberd
DaSII: Mace
BB: Threaded Cane
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>>323976819
halberd in DeS, for first playthrough at least, now it's GS
great club in DaS
I can't even think of anything for DaSII, mastodon halberd?
Kirkhammer for BB
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>DeS
Bastard Sword
>DaS
Claymore
Haven't played the others
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>DS1 Curved Sword pirouette is back in DS3
I am so fucking ready. I'm ready to like Curved Swords again.
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>>323979403

empty hand second slot, hit right on the dpad
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>>323979610

Yea but the sick sheath disappears.
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For DaS I played around until I got the halberd, and fell in love with the moveset. Then I started toying around with the Zweihander because I wanted to be le funny may may Giantdad, but I like the stopping power and the weight behind it.
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>>323976819
DaS: Claymore. That running attack is pure sex.

DaS2: either dual Caestuses or two-handed Blacksteel Katana. Being able to chain from the running strong into lights was amazing.

BB: Hard tie between the Threaded Cane and Reiterpallasch.
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>>323979435
Have you tried the "lucerne" in Demon's Souls? That thing wrecks.
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>>323979589
>Bastard sword
>Claymore
My two favourites
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>>323976819
>Demon's Souls
The Halberd was my go to for the absolute longest time, and it's still one of my top favorites. That thing is a killer two-handed.

Butcher "Knife" is another top biller for me, especially with a FTH build.

>Dark Souls
The Man-Serpent Greatsword, hands down.

The Uchigatana, Washing Pole, and Demon's Great Machete are close runner ups, though. I feel like Dark Souls has a ton of awesome and fun weapons, but I have a hard time until I get a good one.

>Dark Souls 2
I had a hard time finding a weapon I truly loved. I stuck with the Large Club for my first playthrough and it was pretty serviceable but once I finally discovered the Gyrm Axe and, even more so, the Gyrm Greataxe, I never looked back. The Lion Axe is nice too.

>Bloodborne
I tried a lot of weapons and most of them have great strengths and weaknesses, but, for me, nothing tops the Kirkhammer. I know it's generally seen as a weaker Ludwig's but I fucking love it.

Hunter's Axe is my backup and it's absolutely lovely as well. I can't wait to try out the DLC one day.
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>>323976819
DS1 : large club > club > sanctum
DS2 : partizan > pate's spear > FUG > SMELTER CHICKEN DRUMMY

strength all of the day bro
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des: claymore
das: claymore
das2: claymore
bb: lugwids holy blade
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>>323979813
Holy Moonlight Sword has the Claymore's 1H moveset untricked.
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>>323979804
>that Smelter Drumstick running attack
that thing is criminal
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>>323976819
Demon - Pretty big sword man, just fluctuated
DaS - Drake sword (My first run was pretty lax)
DaS2 - Whatever staff gave the most MaDmg
BB - The Kirkhammer was lots of fun
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What was the most disappointing weapon?

I almost shat a brick when I found a whip in DaS, but they're utterly useless as anything but a meme weapon to annoy PVP turtles.
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>>323979714
I think I did, but I haven't played it in years, I might give it another run through again. It was called the meridian hammer or something right?
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>>323979876
bb was the worst souls, couldnt be arsed to do an ng+ run or a new build, so i didnt bother playing the dlc
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>Dark Souls
Claymore
>Dark Souls II
Claymore
>Bloodborne
Chikage

Turns out all the weapons I like start with C and end with E.
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>>323979706
Wait, other way around on the Blacksteel - the strong could be chained faster from a running light.
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>>323976819
DeS: Crushing Battle Axe I didn't really understand how the stats worked. But I knew if I increased strength with the axe, then I do more damage. I liked the moveset as well. It was the weapon I beat Flame Lurker with.

DaS: Halberd. I had a slightly better understanding of stats by this point. I liked the halberd's reach and immediacy. When you press attack, the thing barely moves, and the tip does a great amount of damage. It was perfect!

DaS2: I hated all the weapons. Holy shit. They also suck. Fuck all of the weapons feel like shit. I don't even remember what my first playthrough weapon was.

Bloodborne: N/A
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>>323979964

All fist weapons not from Souls 2.
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>>323976819
DeS: Dragon Bone Smasher. It's kind of cheating because I knew about it before I ever played DeS, and I looked up how to get it.

DaS1: Black Knight Greataxe. Fucking love its design and it was good as fuck.

DaS2: I think I used the Drangleic Sword my first playthrough. I used the Crypt Blacksword on my second playthrough after figuring out how to get it in my first one, though.

BB: Hunter's Axe. My two favorite weapon types in games (Axe and Halberd) combined into one.
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>>323979964
I wanted the ladle to be secretly useful. But it never was.
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>>323980024
Much like the scaling amirite
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>Dark Souls

I was a Zweifag from start to finish first playthrough.

>Bloodborne

Used Threaded Cane first third of the game, the Saw Cleaver the second third, and Ludwigs/BoM for the last third.

In DeS and DaS2 I switched around a lot all the way through.
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>>323980009
>bb was the worst souls
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>Demon's Souls
Claymore
>Dark Souls
Gargoyle's Halberd
>Bloodborne
Burial Blade
>Old Hunters
Beast Cutter.
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>>323980479
In terms of reasons to replay it and mechanical depth it was.
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Do you guys think that twinblades will return in DS3? I'll be deeply disappointed and sad if they don't
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>>323980572
twinblades are shitty memeweapons so I hope not
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No Playstations for me

DaS: Halberd
DaS II: Longsword/Greatsword
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>>323980635
I dunno, they were pretty fun when I used them.
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>>323976819

>DeS
Greatsword

>DaS
Greatsword

>DaS2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA HAHAHAHAA

>DaS3
Already the Greatsword

>Bloodborne
Grea--- I mean, the Hunter's Axe.
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>>323980635

>memeweapons

What made them memeweapons?
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>>323980745
Probably how fucking broken they were in PvP
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>>323980546
>Burial Blade
>First Playthrough.
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>>323980745
He got his shit kicked in and didn't know how to counter them so they are memeweapons.
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>>323976819

>DeS
Bastard Sword

>DaS
Bastard Sword

>Das 2
Bastard Sword

>BB
Kirkhammer

>DaS3
Will probably be bastard sword

I never liked the ultra greatsword or greatsword type weapons and short/longswords were too weak for my liking, so the Bastard sword was a happy medium. As for the Kirkhammer, it's just satisfying to smash things with.
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estoc
i never played a game with a fencing style of combat before das
really fun albeit hard for some boss fights
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>>323980809

So if it's a good weapon it's a meme weapon and shouldn't be in the next game?

Righto retard.
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>>323979964
The cestus, and by extension, the Dragon Fist

Nigga all I wanted to do was to go around beating the shit out of motherfuckers as a boxer. But literally nobody chooses Path of the Dragon.

Those were title bouts, you see. I had a thing in mind. I ran through the whole game using only fist weapons, and if an enemy dropped gear, I'd wear it as a belt.

That, and I fucking LOVED the boar helmet.
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>>323980568
It had three endings, it was fun, and it had a lot of side content that you might have missed the first time. Seems reason enough for me.
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>>323979435
Helberds type weapons are pretty fucking awesome in general in Dark Souls. Dat reach + damage + moveset is a winning combination for most situations. Only way you could possibly improve on them is to make one with strike damage
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>>323980886
dont twist his words faggot
broken != good
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>>323980872

The Bastard Sword is a greatsword tho
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>>323980965

That's exactly what he was implying. Eat a dick fag.
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>>323980809
They are really easy to parry, and a lot of moves leave you open if you miss.
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>DeS
Dual Sabres
>DaS
Probably the BKH or Ultra Greatsword
>DaS2
Used Bandit Axe for close combat, Ultra Greatsword for crowd sweeping, and Dragonrider's Bow

Bandit Axe had the best moveset

>BB
Kirkhammer
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>>323980937
sure it had all that but after i beat the game i felt nothing to continue playing for the side content, unlike dark souls 1 and 2, both games i immediately went back to clear all that side content and go straight into ng+
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>Demon's Souls
Nothing, boring weapons honestly, everything's the same within the class, who cares
>Dark Souls
Moonlight Greatsword
>Dark Souls 2
Iron King Hammer
>Bloodborne
Chikage / Rakuyo. Don't even like katanas, but those were FUN.
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On my first Dark Souls run, I switched 50/50 between halberd and claymore, although I can't remember which I clicked with first. They're still two of my favourite weapons in the series, I just hate how the halberd sucks in DaS2 and DeS. The movesets feel like shit in other games and the damage was practically halved.
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Anything that does heavy poise damage in Dark Souls PvP is alright in my book. Especially the Darksword, people always underestimate its stunlock potential
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>>323976819

I'm only an entry level peasant who's finishing Bloodborne DLC before I get into the Souls games but I love the Chikage I can't use anything else.
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>>323976819
DaS, Claymore, Divine specifically.
DS2, Murakumo.
DeS, I kind of just resorted to the Claymore again, didn't really fall in love with any weapon too much.
Bloodborne though? Fucking Tonitrus, love at first L1. Most satisfying thing in that whole game for me is smacking bitches upside the head with it.
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>>323977535

Based anon.
Zweihander with lightning carried me to Gwyn, then I had to get a new weapon because he was resistant to lightning.

>>323978341

Time to leave
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>>323979964
probably whip also
and claws were pretty garbage IIRC

in das2 like 2/3 of the weapons I tried were disappointing
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>>323981120
>People still don't know how to unzip katana
I honestly cring every time I see someone leaving trick mode on.
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Astora's Straight Sword
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>>323980965
>>323981073

It wasn't what I implied.
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>>323980809
A fucking skeleton parried me once while using twinblades. A fucking skeleton, that's how easy they are to parry, also their damage is pretty balanced only thing that made them "broken" was how fast they applied poison and bleed.
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>>323976819
The Claymore is a beast. The moveset has always been godly.
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>Des
Dragon Bone Smasher, wanted to be Gatsu
>Das
Zweihander, got it early and loved it
>Ds2
Greatsword, that power, that range, that Gatsu
>BB
Saw Cleaver, the rhythm felt so nice
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>DeS
Kris.

>DaS1
Scimitar.

>DaS2
Drakekeeper Sword

>Bloodborne
Blade of Mercy. TOH was Holy Moonlight Blade.

I try to mix it up with every game. I'll probably make my first character in DaS3 a faith build, or a pyromancer.
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>>323980937

>and it had a lot of side content that you might have missed the first time.

That's the part that sucked for me, I looked up a wiki after finishing it. The only thing I missed was one 2 of the Umbilical Cords.

I even found the mother brain. The way loot was distributed as well made exploring just a snorefest.

The DLC was fantastic though, but I can't be fucked going through the half the game again to make new builds for the new weapons.

And don't get me started on the fucking chalice dungeons.
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>>323980982
I'm pretty sure the bastard sword swings faster than the greatswords do, and irl bastard swords aren;t greatswords.
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>>323981369

Go on then, what were you implying by "broken in PvP"?
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>>323981639
Calm down anon, it's just a game. You have nothing to prove on an anonymous board.
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>>323976819
Dark Souls was the Claymore. Versatile and straightforward, looked great on my shoulder.
DS2 was the Gyrm Axe. It wasn't great in PVP sadly, but it hit like a fucking runaway train.
I haven't played Bloodborne, but I really like the Threaded Cane in action.
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>>323981547

They're classified as Greatswords in the game tho.
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>>323981715

I'm merely requesting that you elaborate on what you meant by "broken in PvP" if you didn't mean that the weapon was too good then what did you mean anon?
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dark souls: zweihander
demon's: blueblood sword
dark souls 2: mace
bloodborne: stake driver/tonitrus about equally
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>>323979760
>Fully upgrading Gyrm Greataxe with 50 STR
>1500 damage in seconds
>800ish jump attack
that thing was fun fun FUN.
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>>323981921
I'm not the same person you were talking to earlier. I just get sick of seeing people having pointless arguments over dumb shit and ruining threads.
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2-handing the Great Sword carried me through most of Demon's Souls, add in the Silver Catalyst for ranged attacks and Adjudicator's Shield + Regenerator's Ring and I was pretty much invincible for the last 1/3 of my playthrough.

Playing Dark for the first time (on Sen's Fortress right now), I was rocking the Zwei for a while but traded that in it for the Dark Knight Sword + shield and added pyromancy to give me some range.

I've only gotten the chance to play a tiny bit of Bloodborne but I loved the axe's spin attack.
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>>323982163

> I just get sick of seeing people having pointless arguments over dumb shit and ruining threads.

Stop visiting 4chan.
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>>323981783
Well that's great and all, but they don't play like the greatsword or any of the ultra greatswords, and bastard swords, by virtue of being bastard swords, aren't greatswords. The game probably just classifies them as such for simplicity's sake since classifying them as "not quite a shortsword by not really a longsword or greatsword either" wouldn't exactly be concise and to the point.
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>>323982292
There's no reason to cause shit over a subjective choice of PVP weapons. Disagreeing isn't the end of the world, and you're fucking anonymous.
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>>323976819
Claymore.Claymore.Claymore.Moonlight Claymore.
Threaded cane before dlc came out.
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Demon's Souls: Blueblood
Dark Souls: Silver Knights Longsword
Dark Souls 2: Fine Longsword
Bloodborne: Dunno lol didn't play
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>>323981921
"Too good" as you put it would qualify as broken in my opinion.

Mundane santier's spear and dual sanctum crossbows was pretty broken at one point too.
At least they bothered to patch their game once they realised their mistake.

Just think about dark magic in DaS pre-patch. Tha was broken.
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>>323982386

The greatsword is classified as an ultra greatsword.

The bastard sword shares a very similar moveset and playstyle to the Claymore which is a greatsword.
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Des: blessed claymore
Das: iato
Das2: ricards
Bloodborne: ludwigs
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Abyss greatsword for DS1
Haven't found anything similar in ds2
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>DeS
Rolled as a Temple Knight, didn't used anything else until NG+. That class was too OP, I used a Dragon Halberd because I was a pleb and didn't understand how scaling worked.

>DaS
Black Knight Sword. Love how it looks, love how it swings

>DaS II
Heide Knight Sword. Loved the looks and using it two handed.

>Bloodborne
I am poor and can not afford a PS4 right now :(
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>>323982515

I'm having a lend of an idiot who called twinblades memeweapons that should be removed from the franchise and then backing his argument up by saying they're "broken in PvP" but apparently that doesn't mean their good weapons.

I'm just shitting with him anon, no need to get fanny flustered.

>>323982648

>"Too good" as you put it would qualify as broken in my opinion.

That's my point. The other anon is the one saying "broken in PvP" means something other than "too good".
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>>323982830

Majestic Greatsword
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>>323982773
Well then darksouls doesn't know how to classify its weapons, that's hardly my fault.
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>>323982830
Wasn't the sword ported to DaS2 with a better left-hand moveset?
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>>323980568
this is true, I thought it had the best combat in the series, but weapons being really specific to builds that only allowed the use of like 2 other weapons (usually sub optimal), it fell short on replay value for me, like it exists only to pvp in, as new game+ is boring as fuck.

And even then, I couldn't bother making a pure PVP character after my first clear, my first run was a quality str/skl build that used ludwigs, which is so noob friendly it may have killed some enjoyment.

My second build was going to be a skill bloodtinge build to roll reiterpallasch or maybe flip it to a bt/skl build and use chikage, but couldn't bother to play through the game again.

Still I loved the game, but it does feel it lacks the replay value that other souls games have just from build variation alone, despite its stellar combat.
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>>323982830
Majestic Greatsword from the Iron Crown DLC.
Way better than in DaS1. Have to left hand it, though.
2hL2 - 2hr2 combos, meaning the jump slam has a real use.
The 1hL2 double spin actually hits twice.
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>>323976819
>Demon's Souls
The Bastard Sword followed by the Meat Cleaver

>Dark Souls 1
The Claymore and the Dragon Greatsword

>Dark Souls 2
I didn't fall in love.

>Bloodborne
Stake Driver and Canon
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My weaponfu is the Halberd from Demon's Souls

all other polearms are fucking shit.
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>>323982830
>Haven't found anything similar in ds2

Literally the same exact sword is in DaS2.
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>>323983494
Loved the concept of the stake driver but that reach made me go nuts.
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>>323983427

Well when there's weapons classified as "Ultra Greatswords" you can hardly expect it to stick to real world categorization conventions.
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>>323976819

I forget which sword I used but eventually found the lightning spear which is pretty op for the next few areas.

now I use lightning claymore and love it.

in demon souls I just used faster swords and ended up using a the blueblood sword the speed and dmg sure is nice,
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>>323976819
>DeS
The second I saw that Dragon Bone Smasher I was in love
>DaS
Moonlight Greatsword
>DS2
Pursuers Ultra Greatsword
>BB
Ludwigs Holy Blade

Basically the bigger the sword the more I enjoy it
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>>323983625
Just use the transformed version to poke the shit out of giant bosses

Definitely don't use it against crowds though.

>>323983598
With a different moveset.
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Black Knight Sword. I got it earlier than every other 2 handed

If that sword didn't drop, then Claymore
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My DaS weaponfu is the Estoc. I started with the scimitar and then in undead parish decided it was shit and just tried out the first weapon in my inventory that did higher damage. I didn't understand the mechanics too well like scaling and such so I didn't understand it wasn't the best weapon, but after a while I just got so used to it anything else felt wrong. Besides, thrusting swords are perfect for turtling.
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>>323983795
What does the Pursuer's greatsword have over the regular greatsword?
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>>323983901

Doesn't look like garbage.
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>>323980872
>the follow up page to that doujin

Many keks were had
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>>323983901
If I recall correctly nothing much, I only liked it more because of design alone
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Demons: The Cleaver
Dark Souls 1: Gravelord Greatsword
Dark Souls 2: Dragonslayers axe
Bloodborne: Hunters axe/ MSG
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>>323981370
>A fucking skeleton parried me once while using twinblades. A fucking skeleton
Skeletons are one of the few enemies that will actually parry you
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>>323983635
That's a fair point.
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>>323983993
It's a giant slab of iron, it's sexy no matter what.
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My favorite Souls weapons of all time, judge me faggots

Meat Cleaver
Dragon Bone Smasher
Scraping Spear
Storm Ruler (i fucking love the Storm Ruler)

Zweihander
Claymore
Greatsword
Bandit Axe
Chaos Blade
Silver Knight Straight Sword
Drake Sword
Murakumo
Washing Pole
Lucerne
Avelyn

>implying i played DS2

Hunter's Axe
Ludwig's Holy Sword
All the weapons from the DLC
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>>323984168

I feel like more enemies should parry. I also wish more enemies actively dodged.
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>>323984370
>I feel like more enemies should parry.
No they should not. At least not in the heavily telegraphed manner seen in Dark Souls 1.
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>reformat PC
>backed up important folders, etc.
>boot Dark Souls 1-2
>all of my saves got wiped
Apparently the save files are not stored in the game folder or documents, and not supported by Steam Cloud.
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>>323984483

What, you want them to insta parry riposte without warning?
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>>323976819
Definitely the Server.

Still my favorite weapon.
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>>323984521

DaS1's were in the Cloud for me anon.
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>>323976819
Zweihander. Its my swordfu.
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>>323984678
Sadly it wasn't enabled. Got nil in my game.
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>>323983901
140 counter strength.
Used to infinitely stunlock players with 1hr1s.
Otherwise, nothing.
The spinning roll attack seems better until you realize how good the downward slam of the zweihander is.
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>>323984585
Why should they parry at all? In Bloodborne whenever you fight a hunter they can parry you randomly and that sucks ass.

>>323984632
Shit weapon that looks like shit and doesn't even have the scaling or range of the murukumo or the thrusts of the gravelord greatsword.
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I can't believe none of you have mention the Logarius Wheel yet.
Nothing more fun than purging vilebloods with the power of the wheel.
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>>323984336
>Drake sword
I bet it was your favorite weapon with that broken leg of yours.
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>>323976819
DeS I just varied every time but on DaS.... Always spears. Any spear.

You can block while attacking with spear + shield.
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>>323984891

>In Bloodborne whenever you fight a hunter they can parry you randomly and that sucks ass.

yea because in Bloodborne they insta parry without warning which is shit. If it's telegraphed then it's all good.
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>>323984971
>L1
>circle
>R1
>circle
>R1
>PREY SLAUGHTERED

yeah..
fun weapon...
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>>323980872
>Bastard Sword
Mein naegar
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>>323985048
I just liked the special R2 anon. I had just come off of over a thousand hours of Demon's Souls and the second I learned that weapons in Dark Souls were going to have unique special attacks, I was hyped. I did shoot arrows at the hellkite dragon because that's how i killed the dragons in DeS and that's what my instinct told me to do, and yes I did get the Drake Sword super early, and yes it outclassed the other weaposn i was using for quite a bit, but unlike many others i didn't fall into the trap of using it like a crutch. I just spammed the R2 to feel fancy and only cleared upper and lower burg with it. When i got to the forest, and blight town, i was using the claymore.
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>>323976819
uchigatana on first playthrough
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>>323985357
>actually purchasing the bastard sword when the claymore was free and superior in reach and damage
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>>323985346
It may be over powered but it's still a fun concept for a weapon and I enjoy it's move set
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The Zwei.

I'm not very original.
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>>323976819
Honestly none have stuck out to me as much as the Composite Bow. My Das1 bow only playthrough was surprisingly my most fun one,mans the composite bow was the star.
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>DeS
Giant dragon sword. Turned 1-3 into bitchmode.
>Press R1 to fuck everything in a half-circle
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Club because strike damage is fucking retarded in DaSII
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>>323983232
>>323983434
>>323983456
>>323983598
Thanks anons, I'm not too far into the game yet. Gonna look out for it
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>Counter poking someone with the greatsword's R2 while wearing the Leo Ring
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>>323985473
Bastard sword has a faster swing speed and is overall better at stunlocking
>>
my divine murakumo was my favorite weapon in dark souls 1 and in dark souls 2 i powerstanced two ultra greatswords
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>>323985473
>actually using the bastard sword
You ever thought maybe because oh I dunno I liked?
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>>323984891
>Total OG weapon that looks fucking awesome but doesn't even have the scaling or range of the murukumo or the thrusts of the gravelord greatsword.

I agree. Especially about how amazing it looks. Fortunately B scaling is not that far behind the A scaling of the Murakumo. I have won more than enough ganks with it to know it does its job well. Is it as good as the Murakumo? No. But who the fuck plays Dark Souls with the best stats?

I mean I am all for using good weapons but I more focus on things that have good stats AND that I like the looks of.

A quick rolling giantdad with a bunch of buffs and Abyss Greatsword. has better stuff but is clearly the faggot in the duel.
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I feel like the max upgraded greatclub doesnt get enough love
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>>323986352
Large club and great club are two different weapons
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After Dark Souls I just couldn't play Demons. Is it worth gitting gud?
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>>323986352
The great club is japan's #1 weapon, anon.

Jesus dick I can't stand how your hand clips through the large club
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>>323986476
allways get there names confused but I like me ome large club
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>>323986307
The Murakumo not only looked better and had more range, but you could also dead angle with it and enchant it.
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>>323986307
giantdad builds are shit though
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>demons souls
meat cleaver
>darksouls
large club
>bloodborne
kirkhammer

as you can see i have an incredibly varied and versatile play style for any situation
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>>323985395
>I did shoot arrows at the hellkite dragon
Is there any other way to beat him? I don't recall him ever getting in range of melee or magic attacks.
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>>323976819
DaS
>Halberd

DaS 2
>Fire BKH

DeS
>Mirdan Hammer

Bloodborne
>Kirkhammer
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>>323986521
They only clip if you're using a female avatar.
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>>323986181
Bastard sword and claymore are the same speed. They are both faster than weapons like the black knight sword.
Please do not spread such misinformation.
>overall better at stunlocking
They're about the same. Bastard Sword's 1hr2 can infinitely stunlock, but Claymore's 1hr2-1hr1-1hr1 infinitely stunlocks too.
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>>323984336
>hurrr game is shit even though i havent played it

Hate these faggots. Play the game and make your opinion
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Demons Souls
>Basic Scimitar (the first sword I found in the game, in all of souls, that my character didn't start with. Rad moveset and "fast" speed, even among Demons Souls standards)
>Blue Blood Sword
>Guillotine Axe

Dark Souls
>Balder Meme Sword
>Hand Axe

Dark Souls 2
>Magic Mace (yes that one, you all know which one it is)
>Blue Flame
>Grand Lance (before scholar edition came out, because it was rare and strong)

Bloodborne
>Hunter Axe
>Simons Bowblade
Actually I like ALL the Bloodborne weapons. So picking the two above was very difficult.
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>>323986712
Yeah you could lure him to jump down on the bridge, then if you did enough damage quickly enough you'd kill him.
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>>323986556
At what point in time did I say it was the superior weapon?

I said I like the look of the Server more. That is why I like it more. I'm not even fucking arguing with you... unless you are saying I don't like the look of the server more? If that is the case I think this conversation is done.
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>DeS
Dragon Bone Smasher
>DaS
Murakumo/Ricard's Rapier
>DaS2
Greatsword
>BB
Logarius' Wheel
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>>323986795
I never said the game was shit faggot.

Besides I already demo'd it during the network tests and those convinced me not to purchase.
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>>323976819
>Demon's Souls
Meat Cleaver

>Dark Souls
Murakumo. Later I started using Server because aesthetics.

>Dark Souls 2
None.

>Bloodborne
Church Pick.
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>>323987036
>all these Serverfags

IT LOOKS LIKE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>DeS
Winged Spear and heavy shield phalanx mode

>DaS
Dragonslayer Spear

>DaS 2
Warped Sword

>BB
Hunter's Axe so far
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I DID IT
I BEAT ARTORIAS
I've never felt so happy in a game before. I've died so many times and was about to call it quits until now. I'm shaking
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DaS Lucerne
DaS2 i don't fucking remember shit game
Bloodborne Amygdalan arm is underrated as fuck, best weapon in any souls game
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>>323976819
>DaS1
Silver knight spear, then Zwei. Yes I over leveled with grinding for the STR
>DaS2
Powerstanced greatswords
>BB
hunters axe

Judge my taste
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>>323987150
You're favorite weapon looks like shit and its blade is dull.
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>>323987350
Sanctuary Guardian was harder anyway.
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>>323978808
Hell yes my negro. all the way.
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It would have been perfect if it was buffable.
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>>323987418
It's not supposed to be sharp.
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DeS
Penetrating Sword

DaS
Fury Sword

Ds2
Ashen Warrior Sword

BB
Saif
>>
In DeS it's the Dragonbone Longsword
DaS it's Quelaag's Fury Sword
DaS II it's the Warped Sword

For the most part, if it's imbued with fire and light on the equip load, it's my kind of weapon.
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>>323976819
bloodborne axe
>>
>DeS
meat cleaver
>DaS1
zweihander
>DaS2
uhhhhh I liked the greatsword UGS
>bloodborne
kirkhammer
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>>323987350
The most fun boss fight in any souls game.
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>>323987528
That was the very first weapon I parried in pvp, I'll never forget it.
>>
>ctrl-f "halberd"
>19 hits

mah niggas

I was mainly thinking DaS because Lightning Halberd was my jam but still
>>
Always a curved sword.
DeS I loved the Large Sword of Searching and Kilij
DaS was Falchion of course
DaS2 was some big green curved greatsword I don't fucking know fuck DaS2
BB was the Cane, fuck I loved that thing.
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>Hits for near Greatsword levels of damage
>Swings fast and like an axe
>So fast you are almost guaranteed a second hit if you land the first
>Blunt damage type
>Low endurance cost
>It's Andre of Astora's own smithing hammer

I've gone through most of my current playthrough with Craftsman's Hammer. It just works for everything.
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Even though I only use huge weapons that smash shit into dust i love the diversity and all the different builds people do
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>>323986580
I know. It was just an example. I forgot my example was being critiqued. I am saying the guy who builds his character around the best armor and highest damage weapon takes the game too seriously.

The point I was making is that B scaling was more than good enough for me to win a fight. On top of that this was a thread about the weapon you used
vvvvvvvvvvv
>on your first playthrough
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I didin't find every weapon my first playthrough because it was a blind playthrough. I had little to no prior knowledge of Dark Souls before I played it. I didn't know what was the best weapon stat wise. Hell, I wasn't smart enough to figure out how online worked until I was on my second playthrough. The Server was the weapon I used my first playthrough, and it is still my favorite design of any weapon in a Souls game.

If you think its dumb looking. Or if you think its bad. Thats fantastic. But it doesn't change my love of the weapon.
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>>323987939
>killing andre to get that weapon

FUCK YOU

Unless that' DkS2

In which case, meh.
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>>323987979
for sure, i just know that seeing a giantdad mask is a sign that the opponent is a memer with bad stats
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>>323988079
The hammer sucks in Dark Souls 1.
Also killing the giant blacksmith is a bigger crime.
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>>323976819
On first playthrough of DaS.

Yes, it is halberd for me. It's beautiful. Deadly, and yet weighty enough that I need to think before using.

I also just killed the Chaos Witch first try with it
>>
Obsidian GreatSword dark souls 1 was my bread and butter
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>>323988109
>not using mask of mother for the extra hp, hollow soldier waistcloth for poise, heater shield for best stability per weight, and chaos rapier for backstabs
>not being a total cock sucking faggot who eats dicks and ruins the pvp experience
>>
>>323976819
>DaS
Demon Spear
>DaS2
Ivory King Ultra Greatsword
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>>323988109
Personally I ran full havels with mask of the father becasue i liked the stamina
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>>323976819
>DES
Greataxe/halberd
>DAS
Bkugs/Demon Great Machete
>DaS2
Drakekeepers warpick
>BB
the Whirligig weedcutter

I pvp about 200-1000 hours every installment.
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DeS : mirdan hammer
DaS : demons spear
BB : evelyn
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>>323988649
>Drakekeepers warpick
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>>323988709
>cursed weapon crushing mirdan hammer
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>>323981120
I dont think you've played DeS.
Moonlight greatsword and greataxe were GREAT in DeS.
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>>323976819
DS: Black Knight Halberd
DS2: Partizan
BB: Sawspear
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Does anyone have the Hylian shield mod from DS1? I need it. It has to be pic related.
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>>323981290
you'll probably like DaS' katanas.
Iaito and Murakumo are fun as hell.
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>>323981120
>Nothing, boring weapons honestly, everything's the same within the class, who cares
But that's wrong.
>>
>>323988109
Yeah. I was too busy mixing and matching armor and not understanding the stats yet.
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>>323989560
To be clear. That is an image of that first character on New Game +++

I lost him some time ago after getting a new PC. RIP
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>>323989027
hits like a truck, and the jumping R1 catches everyone offguard.
Im that one dude that cosplays as a ruin sentinal with mirrah shield and ring of the living.
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>>323989560
>>323989768
If you want 10/10 fashion souls use

>Ornstein Helm
>Shiva Armor
>Shiva Gauntlets
>Ornstein / silver knight leggings
(Orny's legs preferred)
>>
>>323990112
thats not
>Fang Boar Helm
>Catarina Armor
>Havels Gauntlets
>Smough's Leggings

Get piggu fashionable.
I bet you dont even bring home the bacon with that hamfisted setup.
>>
>>323977514
Nope. Scimitar master race.
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>>323981120
confirmed for not having played DeS.

Oh lord, halberd stunlocks everything, especially with the running r1.
>>
>>323977514
no, because DEX is for FAGGOTS.
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>>323990045
You're right, I thought you were talking about Aldia Hammer somehow.
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I liked DeS because this shit was hammer side out unlike DaS2 that had the pick first what the fuck.
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>>323976819

Dark Souls: Zweihander. Say what you will, switching to a weapon that could pancake most enemies in the game made it much more fun for my first run (found it just before entering sen's funhouse)

Dark Souls 2: Halberd. The halberd moveset in DS2 was so much better than it was in DS1, I used it for almost the entire game (upgraded to mastodon's halberd which is pretty much a straight upgrade)

DeS: Started off as the temple knight I think, the one with the halberd. I never stopped using it.
>>
DaS: Great Scythe
DaS2: Santier's Spear

I guess no one liked the Santier's spear as much as I did then? I still used it post-nerf. I really liked the moveset.
>>
>>323991125
Great Scythe is best Dex weaponfu, especially with Darkmoon buff.

Reap those sinners, m8
>>
>>323988109
>not using that setup for easy indictments
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>>323987350
I killed him easily by shoving my Demon great machete into his face.

Hes not too hard, but hes certainly fun.
What SL were you at?
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>>323987150
I agree.
Its almost worse than drake sword
I thought it would look cool from the icon, but the actual model is horrendous
>>
DeS - blessed Mirdan Hammer
DaS - HALBERD
DaS2 - Mace, a little boring but blunt weapons were just too good to ignore
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>>323990684
DS1 was also with the pick. DS2 at least had two blunt halberds, Archdrake Mace and Drakekeeper's Pick.
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>>323990405
>you didn't like the weapons in DeS? lol you didnt play DeS!
>you didn't like the levels in DeS? lol you didn't play DeS!
>you didn't find flamelurker or maneaters hard and called the rest of the bosses a joke? lol you didn't play DeS!

What's wrong with DeSfags?
Nothing can ever be wrong with their total masterpiece, YOU JUST DIDNT PLAY IT
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Curved Dragonsword is pretty dope in DaS2.

As for DaS1 I'd use Uchigatana for dex builds and Zwei or Claymore for strength.
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>>323977312
>I played Dark Souls first and stuck with the Halberd until I eventually got a BKH.
Everything I use after the halberd is shit.
Currently forcing myself to use claymore. It's just a worse halberd, fuck.
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>>323992008
they're the worst
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>>323989356
No movesets. Variation between weapons is either low damage low weight or higher damage higher weight.
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>>323992008
I never said any of those things.
but you said
>Nothing, boring weapons honestly, everything's the same within the class, who cares
Which is objectively WRONG.

honestly, your reaction makes me really think you havent played it.
At the very least list the weapon you used the most.
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>>323992008
>>323992287

I play all the souls games and love them equally.
you seem to have this mentality that the fanbase is different for each game.

Im guessing you only play games on PC, right?
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>>323984336
>Meat Cleaver
>Dragon Bone Smasher
>Scraping Spear

my fucking nigger, these three are the best

especially Scraping Spear
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>>323992008
No, people who talk shit about games theyve never played are the worse.
all the bosses in DeS are shit easy.
The Levels Are DaS2 tier in pathing, but have better atmosphere,.
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>>323976819
>DaS
>Balder Side Sword
Yeah it's a meme but with good reason, it's a great weapon

>DaS2
>Mace/Heide Knight Sword
Power stanced these together from like an hour in and never stopped, fucking ridiculous
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>>323984336
God, invading in Latria and sending fags flying with stormruler has been the peak of the series for me.
Also rolling R1 with greataxe/halberd running R1 when Im summoned to be old monk.

And I played the series in this order btw,
DaS2, DaS, DeS, BB
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>DaS
Divine Claymore
Divine Zweihander

>DaS2
Moonlight Greatsword
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>Demon's
Blueblood Sword. Fucking shit scales with luck!

>Das1
Great Scythe

>Das2
Majestic Greatsword

>Bloodborne
Threaded Cane
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>>323979760
>Uchigatana
this shit seemed terrible to me.
how should I have used it?
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scimitar into quelags scimitar

i havent gotten very far into bloodborne
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>>323993009
Not him, but my last playthrough was a joke because of that sword.

At +15 with power within I got it doing 550 damage per 2 hand swing on bosses, which I think is really good.
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I just recently realised that the Gargoyle Halberd wasn't the Gargoyle Tail Axe, so many playthroughs just dumping it in the box.
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>>323992361
It's the same shit anyone defending DeS does. See here:
>>323992361, right in your post.
>>323992521
You're both still doing it. You're incapable of suffering complaints against Demon's Souls without this.
Any complaint made is met from your PS3 high horse and assumptions.
Do you even realize this? Why is this?
I don't really have a weapon I used the most. I guess I liked the Secret Dagger and Geri's Stiletto.
The Secret Dagger is a good example of what I mean. It's just the best dagger, statistically superior.
Admittedly, there's an odd one out weapon in most categories which is good for twinking and not much else. Baby's Nail, Stormruler, Dozer Axe.
They're not what you're going to use if you're not. No, you'll use the Secret Dagger instead of the Parrying Dagger / Dagger in any situation, and the Great Axe over the Dozer Axe.
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>>323976819
>des
Great Axe

>das
Rapier

>bb
Beast Cutter, Saif
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Estoc in DeS. Ever since I've always went toward rapier weapons. Had an interesting build in DkS2 that was a lot of fun.

>right hand Espada Ropera
>left hand old whip
>throwing knives

Felt great.
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if I want to use Zwei, should I go with regular +15 or lightning or some other?
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DBS

Quelaag's Fury Sword

Drake Keeper's Warpick
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>>323979760
>kirkhammer

I haven't played through BB since around launch, but Kirkhammer was the shit. Going from sword to hammer and stunlocking shit was great.
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I remember using the Claymore and Zweihander alot in PTDE.
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>>323993172
does the bleed proc faster as it gets upgraded? it didn't seem to kick in until a monster was dead for me. didn't even bother with it on a boss, though.

>>323993295
the gargoyle halberd is only special in looks, isn't it?
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>>323993746
>does the bleed proc faster as it gets upgraded?

No, I don't think so. But it has a decent moveset which is what I care about usually.
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>>323976819
DS1: Greatsword of Artorias
DS2: Heide Knight Sword
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>>323993668
Kirkhammer got huge stamina reduction buffs. You can charge r2 - charge r2 and still have enough to roll with 120 stamina.
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>>323993345
there we go, finally an anon reveals his favorite weapons.
See? not too hard, was it?
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>>323993668
It's fun but it's really not even that good of a weapon until you have 50 str and proper gems
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Great Axe in Demon's Souls.

Meat Cleaver is pretty good too.
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>>323993484
Espada Ropera is sexy. It's not an "unique" weapon, so I really hope it comes back.
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This fucking thing.
God I love its twohanded heavy attack.
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Zweihander
Greatsword
Threaded Cane


Now that I've gotten a taste of Dex builds I'll probably go for something Dex wise in 3
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>>323993345
>secret dagger
That isnt baby's nail

Also dozer axe is fucking sexy looking, even if it has little to no scaling.

Stormruler is also pvp king, if you think its useless, youve never been invaded/invade with one.
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>>323993863
>Heide Knight Sword

bleb detected
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>>323994096
>Pancake'd
>Delaying the follow up so you can send him flying with the spin2win
glorious.
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I used Halberd on my first playthrough of Dark Souls, even though I put my early points on DEX and planned to do a Wanderer build with slash-weapon, like I did on Demon's Souls with Crescent Falchion. Tempted to do an Uchigatana run, but I don't want to play too similar character again.
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>>323993851
>decent moveset
it felt too short range for me. but i'm a halberdfag so everything else is short
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> Black Knight Shield.
> Black Knight Halberd
Got it from the very first Black Knight, and the one in the forest, respectively.

Not only did it make the game an absolute cakewalk, but I adore how they play. I figure I'll grind out the complete black knight set to finish the look.
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>Blueblood
>Parrying Dagger
>Implying
>Chikage
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>>323994096
>anvil on a stick
souls games are letting themselves go with the memes
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>>323994236
I can't handle halberds tbqh. The miss-stumble animation is annoying as hell.
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>>323994126
>being a firestorm scrub

Get outta here.
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>>323994261
>killing final boss in full black knight attire
feels good
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>>323994261
>I figure I'll grind out the complete black knight set
That's not how you get it, though.

Also, if you end up having high strength and dexterity, use the Gargoyle's halberd instead. I think it has worse base stats, but better scaling, and it's a lot lighter.
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>>323994395
yeah missing was always shit, but there didn't seem to be a ton of instances of shit hitboxes that weren't fixed with lockless.
narrow spaces were never a problem, though, and that was my favorite part about it. the heavy sweep even got limited use during catacombs.
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>>323977535
zwei is trash for pvp against good players
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>>323994261
silverknight set in londo
black knight set in the final boss zone
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Dropped from the Knight on the Tower in Parish on my very first Playthrough, I spent all my stats to where I could wear it and never changed Weapons afterwards.
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>>323993345
no, you just didnt list the weapon you used the most, which was the whole point of this thread.

>thinking any souls game is superior to others
they are all different m8.
each with their own gimmicks.
I think you have a case of "Hurrdurr DeSfag boogeymen" if people cant bring up the fucking game without you somehow thinking anyone is claiming superiority. That said, all the weapons in DeS have different utilities, and different weapons in the same class may have different scaling, or be simply for style, something that DaS AND DaS2 does as well. Same weapon movesets on weapons in the same class.
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>>323994405
>thinking I use magic at all and not cursed weapon greataxe rolling r1s.
kek
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>>323994351
>anvil attached to a pole
>meme

Elaborate.
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>>323976819
>Des
DBS
>DS1
BKGS
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>>323994856
Man, you don't get what I'm saying. If I state I Don't Like Thing about Demon's Souls, you and others repeatedly assume I've never played Demon's Souls.
This is true any time anywhere on /v/, of any aspect of the game.
It's more than a little annoying, and makes me hate the DeS posters.

That said, no, Demon's Souls doesn't do weapon diversity like Dark Souls. Or Dark Souls 2, even.
Using the dagger example again, let's take a look, you're not off this autism reply train yet.

>DeS
>Parrying Dagger
Identical to Dagger. Doesn't parry better than other daggers.
>Dagger
Inferior to Secret Dagger.
>Secret Dagger
The one you'll use.
>Baby's Nail
The one you'll maybe use if you're twinking, because in actual pvp the other guy is liable to twoshot you and dark moon grass. In PvE, well... There's bearbugs.

>DaS1
>Dagger
Unique r2s that deal quick jabs.
>Bandit's Knife
Unique r2s with wide slashes. Bleeds, high critical.
>Priscilla's Dagger
Unique multi-hit dancing r2s. If it bleeds a target, takes 50% of their health.
>Ghost Blade
Unique multi-hit slash r2s. Cursed weapon, deals damage to ghosts. Drop rate on par with pure bladestone.
>Parrying Dagger
Unique L2. Parries.
>Silver Tracer
Unique silver trace on attacks. Mail breaker r2s that deal high toxic buildup. Highest critical bonus in game.
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DS1: Gargoyle Halberd and stupid sexy Drake Sword.

DS2: Didint really have any memorable weapons, maybe murokumo?
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>>323996282
Geris stilletto is great if you dont into duping grass.

Baby's nail similar to the scraping spear is great for fucking with people.

Sharp secret dagger +5 will ohko on backstabs easily.

Parrying dagger DOES indeed have more parry frames.
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/parrying-dagger
great when offhanded with an estoc.

Dagger is just there till you get your secret dagger.
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>>323996282
>using daggers in any souls game.
Im not even part of your reply train, but CMON anon.
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>>323997505
not him but
>not swapping to crystal bandit knife +5 for pvp ripostes
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>>323996282
like I said, quit lumping me in with "DeS boogeymen"
When obviously you are fucking wrong.
Demons souls doesnt even come close to having as many weapons as dark souls, especially because its the first game in the series, that said, Im not excusing any lack of weapon variety, im just saying what is there is fine in the context of the game as a standalone title. Quantity doesnt mean shit when everything in the game is so goddamned broken its balanced. each weapon DOES have their own functions, save for MAYBE the starting class weapons, which you'll find superior versions of later in the game.

see
>>323997390
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>>323997589
hoho, nice.
>mfw they nerfed mundane daggers in DaS2
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Ludwig's Meme Blade reporting in, shit just feels so satisfying to use
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>>323997589
Don't you get a more insane multiplier using a rapier or some shit?
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>>323997390
I think you messed up your lines there. Geri's Stiletto is a rapier.

>Parrying dagger DOES indeed have more parry frames.
That's not what it says, it says
>The parry animation of this dagger lasts longer
Which it doesn't. It's the same animation.
>Baby's nail similar to the scraping spear is great for fucking with people.
Yes, that's what I've said. It's for twinking. But again, dark moon grass duping is a thing.
>Sharp secret dagger +5 will ohko on backstabs easily.
Cursed Weapon Sharp Estoc does that better. Northern Regalia does about the same. A lot of weapons OKHO on backstabs.
>Dagger is just there till you get your secret dagger.
Yeah. It's just there. It's a downgrade. There's nothing for it, like many weapons in the game. This is my complaint.

>>323997505
Daggers are great in DeS and DaS2.
You've got pushlocking light weapon, that long range first 2hr1 stab, unparalleled speed, etc in DeS.
In DaS2, they're just good all around, fast, good movesets especially on the bandit knife, fun powerstance, all that.

>>323997589
You'd be better off with a crystal rapier.
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>>323998127
>>323998290
rapier weighs 0.5 more and it doesn't work for my minmaxed build
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>>323998369
>min-maxing

I'm disappointed in you anon.
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>>323998369
Use a lighter shield? You don't lose much going from heater to wooden to red/white to small leather.
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In Das1 I preferred the starting Addams used that up until bosses started pushing my shit in. Then as a pure strength and endurance build, I changed over to BKshield and Zweihander. The fucking zwei was easy mode. Got all achieved in das1 using it. It staggered just about anyone and anything with the 2h heavy attack. Even Smoughgot his shit wrecked.

In das2 I used the axe again. Then the zwei again. Them fell in love with the Greatsword. Got all achieves with that. Then moved onto Dragonslayer axe and guardian greataxe.

Everyone always wants awesome swords but axes are left out in the cold every time. Sure the movesets are nothing special but I can't tell you the number of times I crushed invaders with nothing more than the standard axe you can buy from the blacksmith and proper stats
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>>323976819
DES: moon scimitar you find in the starting area with the skeletons

DAS: Drake sword

DAS2: Sun sword

BB: Ludwigs

Am I a living meme?
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>>323977535
never have, and never will make a meme build, sorry friend
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>>323976819

Demons: Soul Brandt

Dark: Moonlight Great Sword & Great Scythe

Dark 2: Estoc
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>>323998549
I wore the same shit with the same weapon. Goddamn I was so edgy.
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>>323998554
I just want some awesome two-handed maces like the Tower Knight in undead parish wields
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>>323998797
That shit Leeroy uses and the Demon Great Hammer
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>>323998764
you didn't also lack the stats to wield it I hope
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>>323998950
I had the strength but not the dexterity lmao.

But I ended up grinding Sen's Fortress for souls so i could finally wield those ridiculous Burger King weapons (i was super luck and had the sword, greatsword, and great axe all drop)
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>>323998290
>twinking
Low SL combat is NOT TWINKING
Twinking in DaS refers to the time people used to use the bottomless box glitch to dupe/twink weapons to a new character.
That said, its been patched out so "twinking" doesnt even exist in DaS anymore.

Fuck off with this screwed up terminology.

Source: Twinking refers to dumping items from a high lvl character to a low lvl character via shared storage or mule characters. Just because someone pvps with an SL1 character doesnt make them a twinker.
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>>323998797
Omg I know. The 2h mace those big knights wield were awesome. Sucks you couldn't get their weapons.

Demons greathammer meh. Peripherally "grant" was awesome for a stre/faith build.

Das2 has some cool ones. Drakekeeper guardian Warpick, greathammer, the Gyrm anvil on a stick.
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>>323999224
>That said, its been patched out so "twinking" doesnt even exist in DaS anymore.
Eh, not necessarily

You could still get your high leveled/overpowered weapons to your low leveled character post-patch assuming you had at least one friend who'd help you trade.
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>>323978808
Absolutely my favourite weapon in the game along side the Dragon slayer spear. Upgrade this bad boy to +5 and buff with sunlight blade to win.
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>>323999454
There are people who best the game at like level 20 aren't there? I know I beat das1 at like level 50 at my lowest. Took a while but I wanted to keep it challenging and keep SL low enough to still get summoned.
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>>323999224
That's not the definition of twinking. Twinking is invading with max upgraded stuff and gear and skill that ensures you will kill the host.

>just because someone invades 2-1 with a +5 baby's nail, storm ruler, adjucator's+5, acid cloud, backup dragon mirdan hammer+5 all made through duping doesn't make it twinking
>just because someone invades undead parish with a +5 lightning hand axe, +5 ascended pyromancy flame with black flame, 99 humanity, giants+5 doesn't make it twinking
>just because someone invades cardinal tower with a +5 ice rapier, ring of blades+2, flynn's ring, hexer's+5, and warmth doesn't make it twinking
Don't be this dumb
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>>323976819
the biggest greatsword i can aquire.
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>>323999615
invading low level characters in early areas with max upgraded stuff and gear and skill that ensures you will kill the host*
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>Demons
Still playing through it, haven't had anything really click yet

>Dark souls
Lucerne, silver knight sword is right behind it though

>Dark souls 2
Really didn't stick with a single weapon here since everything breaks so quick but on my first playthrough when I decided to make the defenders greatsword I stuck with it the rest of the game

>Bloodborne
WHEEL
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>>323976819

Claymore and then Zweihänder.
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>>323999602
I beat 4kings at level 16 at my lowest, but even still fully upgrading a whole set of equipment at a low level would be obnoxious.
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>>323999615
Yes it IS the definition of twinking and twinking comes from MMOs, not the souls series.
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>>323999669
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>>323976819

DaS-Club
DaS2- Red Iron Twinblade
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>>323999858
Pretty sure Souls games aren't MMOs.
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>Demon's Souls
"Magical" Sword Makoto is my waifu but Blessed Claymore is still pretty freaking badass.

>Bloodborne
I want to love the Chikage but I can't. I still haven't given up though. Holy Moonlight Sword is my current favorite.
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>>323999978
That's where the terminology of twinking came from you uncultured swine. Do you think people just randomly started calling the bottomless box abusers twinks because they're hairless gay boys?
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>>323999447
I just want some "traditional" big maces. Like those what Tower Knights are wielding, but not shit like Great Club which looks just like a giant fucking log that doesn't match with any armor properly.

Perhaps DS3 will feature more Warhammers.
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>>323999615
how is someone gonna mule a character to drop off items to a sl 1?
you need to be within 10 fucking lvls to summon someone.

O wait "just because IM not good enough to beat the game at SL 1 means NO ONE IS"
fuck. off.
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>>323999615
none of those are twinking, just Low SL combat.
You cant just dump off items between characters either, because SL restrictions.

All of those setups are legitimate and feasible at low SL, NOT "twinking", which doesnt exist anymore. STOP substituting the term "TWINKING" for "low Sl invader"
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>>324000137
You dupe the materials and such yourself in Demon's Souls.

>>324000326
No, that is what twinking means in the context of the Souls series.

Deal with it, twink. Does it offend you to be called out on it?
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>>324000069
THANK YOU ANON.
fuck Ive been trying to tell people this shit for SO. FUCKING.
LONG.
its like soulsfags dont remember bottomless box glitch anymore, and "twink" just became some fags buzzword to criticize the game.
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>>324000410
please refer to
>>324000069
and see you are an idiot.

Have fun buying buzzwords off of people that originally spouted it to try and deface DaS as much as possible.
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>>324000137
>you need to be within 10 fucking lvls to summon someone.
You just invade your friend in a non-popular area and trade that way nigga.
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The Mace was my best fucking friend in Dark souls 2, carried me through most of the game.
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>>323976819
In release order:

>DRAGON BONE SMASHER

>MANSERPENT GREATSWORD

>GREATSWORD

>KIRKHAMMER
I am the embodiment of HUGE
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>>324000112
Let's hope so anon. I'm all about the more traditional weapons too myself. I mean some of the more "fantasy" weapons are pretty cool, but I do prefer the standard weapon skins. Pic related. I already have all achieves o. Das2 but I started a new cleric character I'll be building into a stre/faith build centered around this weapon. Lightning damage by default and only gets stronger with lightning infusion.

My achieve characters are always named Persistence
New guy In named "Helping Hand" because I plan to go full Sun-bro and help others on tougher fights.
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>>324000410
you're an embarrassment
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>>324000529
It's irrelevant what it meant in some garbage MMO.
Again, until you understand. This is what twinking means in the context of the Souls series, whether you like it or not.
Did you miss the part in your education where words can have multiple meanings and contexts? And even change?

"Low SL combat". Pfft. It's being a faggot in an attempt to harvest tears.
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>>324000326
>it's possible
>that makes it normal
>that makes it not twinking
wew lad
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>>323999669
>>323979804
>>323983795
>>324000617
MY BRETHREN

TOGETHER WE ARE BIG AND WE ARE HUGE AND WE ARE STRONG
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>>324000643
And I forgot my pic.
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>>324000751
>until your swing completely missed and your recover time is so long, you get backstabbed into Oblivion all day everyday.

For pve? Strength/faith all day everyday. Seems most invaders are all Hex/mage builds with sex weapons.
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>>324000674
How? He's correct in this case.
Of course low SL(or in DKs 2's case, soul memory) PVP is a thing, usually doing it with maxed out equipment is called twinking. Don't see why you're being a little shit about it.
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>>324000564
no, because hes saying that you need to get a weapon from a HIGH lvl character to a low lvl character. meaning the low lvl character would have to invade the high lvl friend to get weapons--- that honestly he wouldnt even be able to use since SL 1 wouldnt have the stats for it.

If you're good enough to get to a non populated zone at SL 1, you're usually good enough to complete an SL1 RUN.

Also, pyromancy is easy as SHIT to get to black at sl 1, at blight town. You dont need a friend to hand you one of those things.
Reinforced club makes this game baller easy.
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>>324000937
>that honestly he wouldnt even be able to use since SL 1 wouldnt have the stats for it.
>what is lightning hand axe +5
>what is ascended pyromancy flame +5
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>>324000736
>>324000746

twinking IN SOULS
ORIGINALLY MEANT
abusing the bottomless box glitch to twink items between characters.

This matches the mmo term correctly.
>"Im gonna use a word in improper context because words CHANGE"
This is you

twinking is no longer possible.

Also, twinking/twinker ISNT an INSULT either, like you seem to be trying to force it so.
nearly everyone in mmos "twinks" items down to their alt characters off of their mains, and "mule" characters are also referred to as twinks/twinkers

But you can go ahead and blame invaders who are good enough to finish SL 1 runs as somehow being "cheaters", if it makes up for your lack of skill thereof.
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>>323977514
Yeah I found that piece of shit but never used it because it's shit.
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>>324000897
no, transfer of weaponry form a high lvl character to a character so low lvl it would be impossible to get is "twinking"

>>324001036
all shit easy to get at SL 1 and doesnt require "twinking"


"twink" as an insult in souls didnt really start until DaS2 came out on pc, and people wanted any excuse to not play DaS1.
"Oh I dont want to deal with twinks"
was a common buzzphrase.

Twinks referring to bottomless box glitchers.

but its been patched, so its no longer feasible.
You also cant trade at low SL since you get like, what 4 invasion orbs off the start?
if youre good enough to beat 4 kings at SL 1, youre good to go.

Just wearing maxed armor doesnt refer to "twink" either.
its the reference to where the armor CAME FROM, the bottomless box glitch.

You guys are fucking new, and werent around pre bottomless box patch, I get it, but FUCK. OFF.
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>>324001217
That's cool.

You're wrong, even in the context you mean.

Have you ever watched a stream of Dark Souls 2 on the PS4?
Entirely full of people with 99 everything, at low levels, at set SM ranges, whatever.
They get passed down things from other people who back up and replace their save.
That is the twinking you mean.

Now. How many times is this? Twinks are invaders with unfair equipment. This includes the context you mean.
Twinking in the SOULS context, not the MMO context, means invading with equipment the host cannot have / cannot hope to match.
Hammer this into your brain, kiddo.

I don't even know where you got the implication that I think twinking is cheating. It's easy to twink. Souls games aren't hard. SL1 is a welcome challenge.

Do you get this triggered when someone says they one-shot a boss, and by that meant they killed it in one try?
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>>324001595
>Twinks are invaders with unfair equipment.
No because no equipment is "unfair"
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>>324001769
My god, you believe this. You really do. This is why you're so booty bothered, you're offending by being called a faggot for being an unkillable asshole invader with maxed gear.
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>>324001507
>You guys are fucking new, and werent around pre bottomless box patch, I get it, but FUCK. OFF.
I was actually arguing in your favor that getting upgraded gear to a low leveled character didn't require twinking, just having a friend hold your equipment.
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>>323995382
>complicated unheard of thing that isn't actually a meme, but I'm going to pretend it is one
this should be a meme on it's own
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>>324001595
>invading with equipment the host cannot have / cannot hope to match.
theres a reason I stand around in human form at parish with my Blackflame SL 1 character.

there is no TWINK in a souls context in DaS1 anymore, moron. Not since bottomless box was patched. DaS2, yeah, because SM is broken

But go ahead and eat up DaS2 apologists buzzwords/insults.
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>>324001819
He's right, no equipment is unfair. If it's in the game, it's fair.
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>host is a higher soul level, probably has two phantoms with him if he's in human form
>it's somehow "unfair" to invade him with good equipment

Holy shit, get a grip. I didn't cry when I first got invaded by a faggot with a scraping spear in DeS so you niggers shouldn't cry that you got backstabbed by a lightning hand axe in the parish.
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>>323976819
The dragon bone smasher in Demon's Souls
The claw in Dark Souls
The (mastodon) halberd and greatsword in Dark Souls 2
The Tonitrus and Boom Hammer in Bloodborne
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>>324001819
>being so bad of the "big bad invader" that he cant just either A. go hollow
or B. dodge the easily avoidable fire magic.

>>324001852
its easy to fire shots when you cant tell the tone of a post. I dont blame anon for assuming crap. that said, yeah its real easy to get maxed shit at low SL.
Reinforced club is my weaponfu on my SL1.

BKUGS on my main.
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>>324002237
How many attempts did that take you?
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>>324001956
Twinking did not exist when Bottomless Box Glitch was around.
Every phantom, every host, every invader had out lightning uchigatanas or what have you.

>>324002171
Right. It doesn't matter that you can oneshot people and take single digit damage. There's more of them and one of you!
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>>324002309
>take single digit damage

What the fuck could you possibly be wearing at SL1 that gives you that much defense and you're still able to fast roll?
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>>324002396
GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS
BECOME a twink
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>>324002309
>Twinking did not exist when Bottomless Box Glitch was around.
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>324002309
uhhh lightning uchi is HELLA easy to get.
you get it by killing the merchant in the undead burg, then you can upgrade it real fucking easy.
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>>324002443
no because you cant fastroll with that on at SL1-10, even with havels ring and FAP ring.
Stop enforcing this shitty meme
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>>324002396
Giants+5, Black Iron+5, Havel's, 99 humanity. You ain't gonna take shit.
>still able to fast roll
Who cares? You're taking single digit damage from their +2 longswords or whatever.

>>324002461
In the Parish.
Do you.. know what bottomless box glitch was?
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DkS - Baller Swag Sword
DkS2 - dual blacksteel katanas
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>>324002461
Can you use the uchi at level 1?
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>>324002458
idiocy.
hes a newfag that probably only played DaS2, and adheres to the shitty memes made up by DaS2 mustard racers.
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>>324002541
>You're taking single digit damage from their +2 longswords or whatever.
And you'll die instantly from the sunbro's lightning spear or get bled out by the white phantom's uchi.
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>>324002541
Are you stupid? You don't have to have the boss alive to invade an area.
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The regular club, I beat everything in Dark Souls 1 with it. The biggest struggle was the Father of the Abyss, took so many hits.
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>>324002296
How many attempts did what take me? That was just some random co-op on Kalameet. It took me two tries to kill Kalameet solo, but I didn't cut off his tail.
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>>324002570
I'm not involved in this argument, but technically twinks would be level 11 since the range is 10+10%, unless they wanted to get less invasions
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>>324002541
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/uchigatana

Dropped by undead merchant in UNDEAD BURG.
You just proved you dont even know the areas in the game, just fucking stop.

also, wearing that equipment puts you at walking speed overburdened at SL1, makeing you EASY prey to get BSed by people strafing with shields up.

I should know, I do it all the time on my playthroughs when a person invades with that shit.

>>324002570
it needs 14 dex, 14 str. 10 str if you wanna 2 hand it, I think, so I dont think its possible at SL 1
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DeS: Dagger , 2 combos kill nearly every boss
DkS: Claymore
DkS2: Black Knight Fire Greatsword, Sun Blade, Heide Knight Sword (mandatory)
BB: Saw Cleaver / LHB (mandatory) / Rakuyo
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>>324002458
If you're invading with a lightning whatever, and the host has a lightning whatever, since both of you are BB glitchers, where's the twinking? Everyone can have that equipment.
A host in the parish cannot have a lightning whatever post bb-glitch patch. If you've got one, that's twinking.
Jesus, this babysitting I'm doing here. Can't expect much of demon's souls fags, but man.

>>324002596
No. Even imagining the impossible situation that you would ever, EVER get hit by a lightning spear, even while fatrolling, a lightning spear does 300 to a naked guy at that faith level.
Giants+5 has gigantic lightning defense.
If you get hit enough times by an uchi to bleed when you're able to oneshot there's something wrong with you.

>>324002692
At least try to read the posts you're replying to.
>Every phantom, every host
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>>323976819
DeS- bastard sword
DaS - silver knight straight sword
DaS2 - murakumo
BB - beastcutter
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>>324002912
I didn't say the host has a lightning weapon, I'm saying the sunbro he's with has the LIGHTNING SPEAR miracle

Didn't you play Dark Souls 1?
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>>324002541
furthermore bottomless box glitch was an exploit that allowed you to delete a character, but still keep the contents of their bottomless box.

When you overwrote the save slot, the new character would have ALL the contents of their bottomless box.
this was "twinking"
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>>324002901
You just proved you're a retard. Congrats.

Lightning. How do you make a lightning weapon? Do YOU know the areas in the game? Tip: it's beyond the Undead Parish.

Also, no, you can midroll in full giants at SL1, with a weapon.
http://mmdks.com/7wk1
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Currently in the middle of Dark Souls 2. Halberd for both 1 and 2, because I'm a little bitch.
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>>324002912
Wearing full giants you'd be unable to fatroll, let alone sprint to dodge moron.
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>>323976819

Longsword or Claymore. Carried me from Demon's Souls to Dark Souls to DS2. Either sword and board or two-handing, I like me some big stabby implements.
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>>324002912
please see
>>324003050

this allowed you to get any equipment without making ANY progress through the game.
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Started Demons' Souls with this. At the end I only replaced the shield
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>>324003080
>implying its hard to get to giant blacksmith at SL1
literally GIT GUD
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>>324003080
>make the lightning uchi
>come back to the parish to invade

Doesn't sound very challenging.
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>>324003170
>>324003279
>>324003298

Great! You're ALMOST THERE! You're just about ready to COMPREHEND MY POSTS!

Give it a little thought, and maybe, just maybe, a miracle will occur and you'll understand!
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>>324003278
temple knight was da bess.
that mird armor, as good as darksilver, and the best weapon in the game.

Temple Knight is perfect.
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>>323977535

>playing NG DaS with a Zweihander +15
>go 2h and use power R attacks
>can stagger almost any boss, including Taurus Demon, 4kids, and Seath
>utterly wreck the entire playthrough

it isn't even fair with it
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>>324003319
I'm convinced you're just a PC player who never truly played in the times of the Bottomless Box glitch and you're just parroting shit you read from the wiki's chatroom.
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>>324003319
but a person who has done so at SL 1-- LEGITIMATELY is not a twink, you dumb piece of shit.

Again, twinking refers to moving equipment between character without having to make progression on character.

Its a baseless insult by DaS2fags pre bottomless box patch.
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>>324003416
as am I anon, as am fucking I.

I hate this "twink" meme.
I hate people spouting it as some stupid insult without realizing what it refers to.
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>>323976819
Mace.
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>>323976819
>Demon's
Haven't played past Phalanx :^)

>DaS
Silver Knight Straight Sword

>DaS2
Estoc

>BB
Hunter Axe
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>>324003319
Oh, but hang on, it's too hard as is. I can't expect you to understand.

Here's the full thing so you don't have to hurt yourself thinking of how it all fits together.

SITUATION A:
The host, the invader, and the phantom all have lightning weapons in the Parish.
They are all bottomless box glitchers.
The host, SURPRISE, due to the bottomless box glitch, has not been to Anor Londo.
These are the lightning whatevers.
In this situation, all have equal, maxed equipment.
This is not a twink environment.

SITUATION B:
The host, and the phantom have +0~5 weapons, unupgraded armor, perhaps 1 or 2 humanity.

The invader is http://mmdks.com/7wk1

The host and the phantom cannot hope to kill the invader. The invader is untouchable, takes single digit damage, and if some miracle brings him down he can poise heal in a corner.
This. This is a twink. This is what twinking means in the context of the Souls series. NOT the MMO context, which is different.
Grasp this information if you can. Words - can - have- multiple - meanings - and - contexts.

>>324003416
And here we go! It's the full circuit loop of retardation, we're back to >>323992008
There's no hope for you.
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>>324003662
Situation A IS twinks. they are ALL twinkers.th host, the phantoms, the invader EVERYONE.
you seem to think twink is mutually exclusive to invaders. It isnt you dumb bag of duplo bricks!
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>>324003662
>This. This is a twink. This is what twinking means in the context of the Souls series.
Nope.
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>>324003662
>"Im gonna shitpost DaS2 mustard apologist MEMES."
THE POST.
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>>324003662
Assuming we're playing on a version of the game that has the bottomless box glitch

Situation A, the host is definitely twinking. The phantom and the invader may or may not be twinking

Situation B, the invader may or may not be twinking

It seems you're the one who doesn't understand what it means.
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>>323987350

congrats anon, artorias took me a week straight of frustration

>>323987496
i beat that boss on my first try but spent a week on artorias and 2 weeks on manus
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None, they all felt like shit. The weapons I ended up sticking to were the halberds and Hunter's Cleaver though.
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>>324003662
you should be banned for pure idiocy.
I cant fathom how fucking dumb a person can be.
Are you a millennial? stay in school, kid.
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>>323976819
Moonlight
>>
DeS - Moonlight Greatsword

DaS - Uchigatana

DaS2 - Powerstanced Greatswords, one with lightning resin one with fire resin, looked badass.

Later mixed it up with Powerstanced Smelter and Ancient Smelter Greatswords
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>>324003857
Oh, no, it's not. Of course it isn't.
Invaders can be twinks, phantoms can be twinks, hell, with some pre-planning, hosts can be twinks, assuming the invader is using a cracked red eye orb and some new character just trying it.
However - in the bottomless box situation everyone is a twink. Everyone. You ever play souls on 360? I did, for a brief time, and it was THAT time.
Everyone was a twink. In this, players were equal. Invaders were the ones that could suddenly have a lightning whatever unzipped on them.
You get it yet?

There's no bottomless box glitch. There are just twink invaders.
Now, is anyone going to defend twinking again? Is anyone going to say http://mmdks.com/7wk2 is fair to the host?
Is anyone going to say more outright wrong things like "giants makes you slow walk" like >>324004101 has been?


>>324004101
Thank you for giving up on your incorrect and foolish argument and just admitting defeat, so I don't have to laugh at your drivel.
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>>323992008
flamelurker and maneaters are both cheesable, so I don't see the problem with them
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>>324004236
And that's why you're still a kid :^)
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situation what actually happens: use cheatengine to give your sl1-15 char +5/10/15 gear

invade parish/etc

faggots
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>>324004236
>There's no bottomless box glitch. There are just twink invaders.
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DeS- falchion

DaS- Lord greatsword

DaS2- heidi knight sword was ok I guess

BB- Blades of mercy
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>>324004236
are you fucking stupid?

also, YES.
http://mmdks.com/7wk2 IS fair.
the host just has to LITERALLY git fucking GUD


"laugh at your drivel" make sure to tip your fedora while you're at it, you stupid shitter.

also, >>324004101
didnt say shit about giants slow walking, just that you were fucking stupid, which you are.
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>Demon's Souls
Dragon bone smasher
>Dark Souls
Zweihander
>Dark Souls 2
Great club and later giant warrior club
>Bloodborne
Not buying a PS4.
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>>324004236
EVERY INVADER IS A TWINK
someone unironically believes this as an excuse for how bad they are in pvp.

thanks /v/ made my night, knowing someone, somewhere is this bad.
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>>324004236
>Is anyone going to say http://mmdks.com/7wk2 is fair to the host?
Yes it is since the invader has to heavily compromise on their offense to be a turtle faggot and the host, especially if he has invaders, can just run to the boss and despawn you.
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>>324004531
And I torrented DaS1 and DaS2 so didn't play online and didn't get to experience pvp on first playthrough (nothing of value was lost).
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>>324004236
dude, lategame sl1 fuccbois can legit invade anywhere in ng+, twinking or no, it's just an oversight on the developers part that you're gonna have to get over.

I'd be more annoyed at people who straight up have infinite health trainers on for pvp
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>>324004358
Yes?
There's no bottomless box glitch right now. Unless you're unpatching your game, running through it, just to BB glitch.
Why would you do that when Mega Mule is a thing? When save editors are a thing? When Cheat Engine is a thing?
Now why did no one even bring up mega mule?

>>324004506
Hello >>324004101, your post style is obvious, as is your impotent asshurt.

The host cannot conceivably do anything to that invader, besides kick him off a cliff.

It's alright though. Tell me how the big bad host and his +2 scimitar hurt you, dear, he can't scratch at you ineffectually now.

>>324004564
No anon. http://mmdks.com/7wk2 is a twink. Lightning weapon users in the parish are a twink.
Try to read, alright?

>>324004632
What compromises are being made by that build in terms of offense? It's SL1, did you want it to use a demon spear?
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>>324004632
Also, it's fair because the host absolutely must run away, since the invader is effectively invincible and will oneshot him?

Am I reading this right?
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>>324004802
of course you're a pcfag that doesnt understand where terms come from.
of fucking course.

>needing CE for any game ever
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>>323976819
DeS
>Schimmy
>DaS
>Kellog Furysword
DaS2
>Blacksteel katana
BB
>gunspear
im a dexfag, I know
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>>324004859
He's not absolutely invincible, magic and bleed would still fuck him up, as would a backstab/riposte off an edge.
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>Demon's Souls
Meat Cleaver
>Dark's Souls
Black Knight Halberd
>Dark Souls 2
Giant Stone Axe
>Bloodborne
Kirkhammer

STR is life.
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>>324004802
>someone actually believes this stuff

"an invader using a build I dont like is a twink"
Really, anon?
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>>324005024
My fellow STRbro!
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>>324004916
I played on PS3 primarily, sometimes on 360 since I had the chance, and while /dsg/ fight clubs were a thing, PC.
Left when megamule did the same thing BB glitch did, but worse.

Is this all you've got now? Whining about cheat engine, about PCfags, still going on about your MMO terms that were no doubt started on PC?
I guess the original meaning of twinking didn't mean all that much to you in the first place.

Is BB glitch okay? Is Mega Mule okay? Is save editing okay?

Is cheat engine any different?

>>324004979
>magic
What are you gonna do, fire 16 int soul arrows at his 252 magic defense?
>bleed
How are you going to bleed him without getting black flamed or just out traded with the hand axe?
Mind you the giant set in addition to its great defense also has good bleed defense.
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>>324004802
Im calling you out right now.
You're baiting!

Ive been silently watching this whole convo play out, but I didn't realize it was bait until I saw the undertale meme.
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>>324005252
You could, idk, trying summoning fucking help? Isn't that the reason you're being invaded in the first place? Because you're fucking human?
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>>323987350
I had to rely on summons and cannot escape this shame
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>>324004802
are you legitimately autistic?
You get an idea in your head, a false idea, cemented from people spouting buzzwords a long ass time ago, and you dont seem to want to give up on that idea.

Also, CE and Save editing is just purely cheating.

Twinking refers to utilizing a glitch in the context of getting equips, and is illegitimate.

Save edit=Cheat
Twinking=illegitimate means
Low lvl invasions=got gud.
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>DaS
Black Knight Halberd. It wasn't even anything special but I loved its design and stats.
>DS2
Mace. Mace. Mace. Powerstanced maces, oh my gosh mace was great.
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I've only played DaS, but I loved being a huge asshole and abusing bleed weapons.
My favorite setup was the Lifehunt Scythe and Bloodshield with Chaos Blade offhand.

I even sometimes added to the dickishness by throwing pyromancy into the mix.
Though honestly, I was pretty bad at the game, and especially bad at dueling. But dammit, I did have a lot of fun with my shitty setup. So I really can't complain.
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>>323989103
>>323981120
don't forget the motherfucking DRAGON BONE SMASHER HOLY SHIT
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>>324005252
I give you points for baiting with undertale, but I deduct points for the fact that Poe's law may be in full effect.
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>>323980893
It's like there's another me
My friend of african descent
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>>323990405
>Blessed Mirdan Hammer +5
>Adjudicator's Shield
>Regen Ring
My 2-1 invading set.
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>>324005667
I loved invading in Valley of defilement with that stuff too.
immunity to poison while hosts died was great.
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>>324005298
Everything I have been saying has been what I believe and would argue for.
People calling twinking fair, people downplaying twinking as "low SL combat", cannot be allowed.
It is an act as reprehensible as the name.

I hoped they would understand this.

>>324005395
What's another drake sword gonna do?
No, the way to actually deal with twinks is to rush the gravelord sword or something, to twink yourself.
No-win situation.

This is why we got the bell system in Bloodborne, this is why the chalices are so painful, this is why we're only going to be able to invade hosts with a 40% health buff and phantoms summoned in Dark Souls 3.
Twinks caused this.

>>324005492
Aren't you the same?
You don't want to let go of your meaning.
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>>324005882
Listen, if you don't deal with the shit that happens in online play. Don't play online. '''''''''''twinks''''''''''''' only appeared in beginning areas of the game. There's absolutely no reason to be human in those areas. If it's help you need from the boss than 3 people with a +4 weapon can easily fuck up an invader. If you don't want to deal with that shit just go offline and use npc summons, or shut the fuck up and deal with the consequences of being human and online.

Whining about twinks is exactly what keeps killing the invasion system every game and it's responsible for the travesty that was soul memory.
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>>324005882
no one is downplaying "low SL combat"
its just you are actively misusing the term twink.

Grabbing shit at low SL is pushing the advantage in your situation, but it requires SKILL and people Deserve to be Rewarded for being skilled.
also, it doesnt matter what lvl you are anyway, since equipment level matters more than character lvl 99% of the time.

You are making a big deal out of literally nothing.
and whats worse, you are deluding yourself into thinking Low SL Invading, as a term, is "downplaying" all low level people invading.
No, people UNDERSTAND its unfair, thats the whole POINT of low SL invasions.
Is everyone that uses agape ring in DAS2 a "twink" then?
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>>324006278
this.

Soul memory was caused by people whining about low SL invasions, most of the time people just die because they are literally new to the game then get fucked because they dont know how the mechanics work, dont know how to parry, dont know how to BS or avoid BS.
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>DeS Claymore
>DaS Claymore
>DaS2 they fucked up the Claymore no acorns on the crossguard fucking one job
>Bb Logarius' Wheel aka round Claymore
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>>324006516
heheh...
round claymore.

Im gonna remember that one when I play BB at muh friends house
>>
>Demon's
Dragon Bone Smasher. I wanted to be Guts, so I became Guts.
>Dark
Black Knight Sword. It was my first Souls game, and as a newbabby, I just so happened to fall in love with an OP greatsword.
>Dark 2
Greatsword. I wanted to be Guts, so I became Guts.
>Bloodborne
Saw cleaver. Ludwig's Holy Blade was too goddamn slow. I was not Guts.
>>
>Dark
BKG

>Dark2
Curved dragon greatsword or the Blacksteel katana

>BB
cane mustard rice

>Lords of the backtracking
>dem katars
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>>323976819
the uninstall feature
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>>324006738
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>>324006278
I don't personally have trouble with twinks. Do you think that was the reason for my long, beautiful and intelligently-written spiels written in the name of justice?
No, I've got too many hours in the series. I know what to do about twinks.
I even enjoy the chance to stomp them.

But most don't. Most that know about them disconnect even before they see you.
You know what kills online? People staying hollow, because they know they can't do anything to a twink.
It's not the experience of the twink, the skill, it's the single damage hits they deal while getting oneshotted.
It's an entirely one-sided thing that they stand nothing to gain from while risking their souls and humanity.

>>324006312
>people Deserve to be Rewarded for being skilled.
That's the Red Eye Orb.
Do they deserve to sit in parish all day and oneshot new players, and point down?
Do the new players deserve to be oneshotted and pointed down at? This experience will just make them want to do it themselves eventually and keep it going.

Invading itself is unfair.
Ambushes? Good! Chameleon? Why not! Forcing and Wrathing and Dragon King Greataxing people off ledges? Hell yes!
Running to monsters? Sure! Just being better than them? Yeah!

Being outright invincible and one-shotting the host?
No.
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>>323976819
>can't git gud at jump attacks in DaS
>timing is always inconsistent
>but then I found out the basic Club has the jump attack as the regular R2
>from then on it becomes my trusty companion
>find out it has fucking awesome strength scaling
>my first character was a fucking mess that I had to dump around Sen's
>my second character is a Strength powerhouse
>me and my club are fucking inseparable
>finally I upgrade to the Great Club and start fucking flattening EVERYTHING

>Artorias
>he's too fast
>can't hit him when he's jumping around and attacking normally
>can't get him to stagger when he's charging, possibly not enough hits from slow weapon speed
>after a half-dozen tries
>pull out my dinky little club against Sir Artorias
>let's fucking go
>I smashed Artorias' shit in, bit by bit, with a big piece of wood
>>
DeS -Halberd
DaS - Man-Serpent GS
DaS 2 - Mace

Though never really found a weapon that really clicked with me in DaS2.

Though my favorite weapon of all the Souls games I've played is probably the Moonlight GS in DaS. Only reason worth going magic for in that game.
>>
DeS: Crescent Falchion
DaS: Black Knight Greatsword
DaS2: Turd
Bloodborne: Ludwig's Holy Blade
>>
Greatsword

T. Berserkfag

Magic first playthrough pls >>>/out/
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>>324003278
N O R O L L
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>>324006516

fixed
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All the curved swords.
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>DS2
Dual Wielding +10 Falchions one infused with lightning the other infused with magic.

Also have dual +10 Manikin claws infused with poison.
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>>324007073

>he didn't into Lordran
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>>324007013
No, ass bandit, the Faraam set was the cover armor for DaS2.
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>>324007120
(you)
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DeS - Meat Cleaver
DaS - Greatsword
DaS II - Grand Lance
Grand Lance was a surprise because I don't usually like the polearm/spear type weapons. But something about it just feels so good.
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Des: crescent scimitar
Das: Gwyn UGS
Das2: Heide sword
BB: Ludwig
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>>324007013
>alva jagged to shit

you broke it
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>>324007149

well, clit enforcer, it's common knowledge that Alva was originally intended to be the poster set.
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>>324007175
>meat cleaver
I will never understand why so many people liked this weapon. Not only was its design lame, but its moveset was also shit.
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>>324007149
The poster boy armor is the one they use for gestures.
DeS = Fluted
DaS = Elite Knight
DaSII = Alva's
DaS3 = pic
BB = Hunter's
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>>324006901
yes, because if you really need help with an area like parish, you deserve to have your ass handed to you.

you sound like a butthurt autist that had his ass handed to him.
>Do you think that was the reason for my long, beautiful and intelligently-written spiels written in the name of justice?
baiting this hard.
try harder m8.
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>>324006901
>You know what kills online? People staying hollow, because they know they can't do anything to a twink.
You know what else kills online? Anti twink bullshit that just makes it harder for everyone to play online.

In Dark Souls 2, if you spent too much time on one character you would get pushed into higher SM tiers despite staying at lower levels. This punished players that stay at lower levels to help people in coop and it also punished players who liked to stay at a certain level for pvp, like people have had been doing for 2 fucking games.

In Bloodborne you won't get an invasion AT ALL, unless the host has phantoms or is in the 1 of the 2 only areas in the game that automatically allow invasion, and even then they can just kill the bell lady whenever and stop invasions.

This. This is what kills online play. When people whine about the OVERPOWERED invader they got matched up against in the first few hours in the game and it fucks over everyone else.
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>>324007317
Well, cock wrestler, it was not.
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>>324007448

poster for US DaS1 is Alva, you smegma nibbler.
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DeS: Really hard to only say one, but I'd say the Large Sword of Moonlight. IT IGNORES SHIELDS AND BLOCKS MAGIC. What more could you want?
DaS: Quelaag's Furysword
BB: Blade of Mercy
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>>324007341
>design was lame
I liked it. Just a big hunk of bloodied, dull iron. I don't remember having any issues with it's moveset, I suppose it wasn't ideal for PvP. Also, it used to be insanely good before it was patched. It's S scaling is somewhat a lie, but it used to scale extremely high. The HP steal was also neat, but less significant after the patch.
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>>324007663
>smegma nibbler
Fuck this, I can't fight that. You win.
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>>324007381
>the OVERPOWERED invader ... fucks over everyone else.
I'm glad you agree with me.
Everything bad about the invasion mechanics in further games comes from twinks.
And it only makes it worse! Twinking is MANDATORY in Bloodborne if you want to win against multiple phantoms and 60 blood vials!
It's gonna be even worse in Dark Souls 3 if they keep invasion mechanics the same and estus as fast as it is!

Perhaps this could all be avoided if people didn't twink, or have such a deluded mindset as to call it FAIR?
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>>324007381
..and in DaS nobody stayed in human form.

>bet boss
>turn human
>get invaded
>oh well
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>>324007793
stop.
autist.
stop.
now.
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>>324007793
"twinking"
that word doesnt mean what you think it means, anon.
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>>324007857
This is the future you chose.
This is your fault.

Did you think your bb glitching, your "low level combat", would have no consequence?

You're gonna have a bad time.
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>>324007721
The design is just too boring for me, I guess. And it's kinda been a while since I played, but I remember the moveset sucking ass. Also
>patch
Was any version other than the Japanese version ever patched? I got into the Souls franchise pretty late, so if DeS ever did get a patch, I don't remember it.
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>>324007793
It would have been avoided if people that couldn't deal with online play didn't play online.

I'm done with you.
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>>324007793
it is fair.
I dont even care if you're baiting anymore, you need to be called out on this dumb shit or people will think this is a serious opinion.

Faggots like you are why I hate being part of the Souls fanbase.

Fags that decry intended game mechanics.

I get it, you're a pve player and get shit on by pvpers, but that doesnt mean everyone else needs to suffer from your whiny, incessantly obnoxious mouth because you wanna get carried through a boss fight.

Its obvious you wanna make the game as huge a cakewalk for yourself as possible.
but guess what? if you wanna summon phantoms, you gonna have to risk getting invaded.
deal with it.
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>>324007792

>i have won nothing but sadness.
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I just wish they didn't make the invasion mechanics more and more obscure so only dedicated PVP's do it.

It's not fun to fight against PVP'ers. But it's really fun to fight against other PVE'ers who tries their hand at invading every now and then.
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>>324008040
It was very early, like within a few months of the initial release as far as I remember.
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>>324008018
someone report this fag.
Decrying an intended game mechanic for the point of flamewars is a bannable offense.
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Twinking was always too easy and didn't even bring rage mail. Creative invasions always got that more.

You know what I liked?
I liked invading at the level of the host, with gear equal to what the host had, with weapons he would have had access to.
I wouldn't try my hardest and go full pro skillz 360 reverse roll chainstab people.
I'd fight without healing.
If I had win streaks, I'd go naked, ditch my humanity.

I didn't get that in Bloodborne.
I'm not gonna get that in Dark Souls 3.
I'm going to be forced to be an asshole if I want to invade, since invading means buffed Lords of Embers and their phantoms and instant estus.

You helped bring this about.

You're still defending it as fair.

Well, you know what?

It's not going to be fair this time.
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DeS: Knight Sword
DaS: Baller's Side Sword
DaS2: lol
BB: Hunter's Axe
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>>324008363
fuck off with that pretentious self-righteous bullshit.
Not everyone has to play by your autistic rules just because you say so.
Jeseus, I dont even have a low SL character, my invading level is 90.

Im just putting my 2 cents worth to tell you that youre a dick.
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>>324008503
Lol isn't a weapon, anon.
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>>324008363

nigga u so full of yourself.

fite me 1v1, see what happens.
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>>324008363
>not remembering how broken everything was in DeS pvp
>So broken it was fair
DaS3 will be glorious.

shut your whore ranting mouth.
I wil cursed weapon rolling r1 OHKO your sorry babby casual ass, because you probably spec dumb points when levelling, like RES or Luck.
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>>324008363
I dont even care about any of your posts or their posts.
Just fuck off with that shitty undertale crap.
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>>324008551
It was a joke, just like DaS2.
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>>324008668
Oh, please, have mercy with that greataxe rollstab bait, it's just terrifying.
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>>324008773
DaS2 wasn't that bad, Anonthony.
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>>324008773

SMB3 > DaS = DaS2 > BB > DeS
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>>324008363
not everyone has to be you, anon.
if you had your way, everyone would be forced to use prebuilds, and not level at all.
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>>324008512
remove awoo
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>>324008796
you complain about getting 1-shot?
well guess what?
in DeS you get 1 shot regardless of level or build.

Id like to see how much youd have whined if you played DeS in its pvp active days.

Ive 1shot niggas at SL 120-170 with my SL 55 character.

but oh boy, Im a "TWINK" for having a good build because Im actually intelligible and dont put my levelling points into USELESS SHIT that doesnt help my character.

end yourself, man.
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>>324008871
AWOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>324009070

nigga, u a fool.

a nerd fool.
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>>324008363
>anybody who beats me is unfair and a twink/hack
>everyone has to play the game like me
>WAAAAa WAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

this is you : )
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>>324009191
you know what else that I am?
a winner, git gud casul scrub
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>>324009070
I respond to your
>cursed weapon rolling r1 OHKO
With
>greataxe rollstab bait
And you think I haven't played Demon's Souls?

You've entirely missed the point. That's not a twink.
Anyone and everyone has cursed weapon second chance.
Greataxe is an early weapon and +10 / pure greystoning isn't hard or that far into the game.

You'd be a twink if you were invading 2-1 at SL 10 with a dragon greataxe+5.
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>>324009242
Sssh. Sssh.

It'll be okay honey.
Dark Souls 3 isn't out yet.
You still have time to crush babbies in the parish who don't stand a chance.
It's not time for ganksquads everywhere in 3 yet.
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>>324009401
>someone actually believes this shit.

OKAY THEN FAG
WHAT SL ARe WE NOT ALLOWED TO INVADE AT?

we apparently arent allowed to invade at a very specific soul level as prescribed by our memelord here.

I suppose if I dont level at all, Im a "twink"? right?

everyone who starts the game, at the very start of undead asylum, is a twink because they havent levelled up yet.

anyone who invades you where you dont LIKE being invaded is a twink

anyone who invades at an SL YOU the most AUTISTIC flamboyant asshole in all of /v/, dont like, is apparently a "twink"

i am saying this in a very sarcastic context, just so you know. just so this doesnt go over your head and you think im somehow agreeing with you.
fuck off normie.
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>>324009476
>gets invaded in 3
>All phantoms get rekd
>gets killed by gud invader

"h-h-h-hh-hh-h-hh he mmmmmm-m-mm-m-m-m-m musta b-b-been a TWINK"

I am predicting this, and I am predicting you will whine somewhere online about this...


and probably be called out on misusing the word twink as usual.

Also you like to throw it around as if its an insult, or as if anyone cares about the term being applied to them.
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>>324009691
Minimum level invasion in Bloodborne is now 30. Yet that nigga thinks you have to "twink" to win invasions.

By his definition anyone that has better weapons than him at the same level is a twink.
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Demon's = Strait Sword
Dark = Claymore
Dark II = Pursuer's Greatsword
Bloodborne = Hunter's Axe

I like weapons with decent move sets, not necessary combos, just where each attack button has a different move to the others, different enough for the weapon to carry me throughout all situations in the game.

I'm hoping Dark Souls III will return the Claymore to it's original move set, it was just too good.
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>>324009691
Jesus, anon.
I never thought I was really all that smart as people said, but you really showed me.

You are a twink
If you are invading
2-1
Stonefang Tunnel, area 1
At SL10
With a Dragon Greataxe+5

Please.
Please at least get this through your head.
If you can oneshot the host with gear the host cannot have at that point and are effectively invincible, you're a twink.
If you can oneshot the host with gear the host has access to and can be oneshotted back, you are not a twink.
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>>324009691
this.

the poster legitimately wants to justify killing pvp entirely, or making it so everyone has to play JUST like him.
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>>324009843
keeek

my fucking sides.

Bloodborne is based as usual.
bitches cant bitch about something that is legitimately fair
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