...Beasts all over the shop...

>>323975037
Tfw you're responsible for killing his daughter

>>323975182
Both of his daughters.

>>323975467
What happens to the older one?

>>323975182
Not if you don't talk to them. Also they the oldest kills herself, that wasn't my fault she jumped off the ladder.

>>323975537
Give her the Red Ribbon from the Pig in the Sewers below Gascoigne's Bridge, zone in and back out, look below the ladder next to the troll. She assumedly kills herself.

>tfw this sexy beast has more porn than any Bloodborne female

feels good

>>323975770
Maria might be surpassing him now.

>>323975735
What do the item descriptions mean when they say messengers of the stump?

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>>323975537
>>323975735

>>323976534
The little stump messengers off to the right when you exit from the back left in the Hunter's Dreams, talk to them. They're just little cosmetic items for the messengers that you lay down for people. Some can wear the Ribbon (it's more of a bonnet), Top hats, Pots. There are only like 5-6 in the game total if I recall.

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>first mandatory boss in the game is the hardest, most versatile, enjoyable
>first optional boss (cleric beast) has the best theme

Why though

>>323978148
>the hardest
but thats ebrietas
>best theme
but thats ludwig

>>323978148
Maria/Kos are the hardest mandatory bosses, unless you're counting base game, then I'd consider Shadows of Yharnam, just because of how easy you can fuck that boss fight up, depending on who you take out first.

Best theme is Maria's though.

Hardest optional boss is Headless Bloodletting Beast by far with his dumbass hitboxes and wonky moveset.

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>>323978148
hardest boss is the 2 fish giants in the innsmouth well

>>323978496
ebrietas is piss easy son, be patient, you can't be against gascoigne
gascoigne admittedly is only the hardest maingame boss if you dont use the box, upgrade your weapon, or summon, but he's a beast with those limits

ludwig's theme doesn't hold up well outside of the fight, it relies on the presentation and cutscene

>>323979103
just parry and chain backstab them dude
if you draw the first one around the pillar and start chainstabbing, the other one won't aggro

>>323979103
>>323979232
Shaman Bone guys.
>>323979128
Nah get in Ebrietas' ass/tail split and slash away, she works just like Seathe.

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alright one of you fucks better explain this
>finish first playthrough as pure str user
>fun as fuck, smashing shit with kirkhammer and then turning everything into ground beef with whirlgig saw
>"oh boy, I can't believe I'm actually excited to try a dex run!"
>start game, get threaded cane
>neat.png
>go kill cleric beast, upgrade it a little bit
>decide to go look up BB weapons to see what other cool pure dex weapons I can get along the way
>mfw
What the fuck? There are almost 0 pure dex weapons in the main game, almost all of them are either in the DLC which is endgame shit or have bloodtinge scaling on them and are half-firearms. Where the fuck are all the dex weapons?

>>323980179
Blades of Mercy and that Scythe you get from the not quite final boss. Blades of Mercy have one of the cheesiest combos in the game too.

>>323980179
You can get the Beasthunter Saif if you're really good at running past things.

>>323980470
I kept hearing that the blades of mercy suck though, and the scythe you don't get until NG+
>inb4 bold hunters mark
yes I know but I'm playing offline so I can't pvp and don't care about chalice dungeons.
I guess I'll just have to try the blades out for myself.
>>323980714
I'll have to try it and see, to me it just looked like a saw cleaver but without the serration damage.

Hardest boss = NG+ Bloody Crow if you don't cheese.

>>323980179
Welcome to bloodborne, without rushing to dlc str builds are the only efficient option you have.

>>323981036
Blades of Mercy is fantastic for stunlock tons of enemies, it's only issue is it has the shortest reach in the game, and is ultimately outclassed by the Rakuyo in the DLC, that and for some bosses, it's just terrible against. Otherwise it'll beast mode you through the game.

I used it and absolutely destroyed Gehrman my first attempt on my first playthrough like it was nothing.

>>323981204
Assuming you don't kill Eileen and get BoM early, yes. Otherwise you're rolling with Saw Spear for a good portion of the game.

>>323981036
> and the scythe you don't get until NG+
That's not true, just bone out of moon presence fight and messengers will have it even in ng.

>>323981354
>>inb4 bold hunters mark
>yes I know but I'm playing offline so I can't pvp and don't care about chalice dungeons.

>>323981209
The blades of mercy's issues are
>no reach
>pitiful scaling and AR
>bad DPS until you've been mashing for over two seconds, such opportunities are very rare
>only 1 charged r2, which, while fast, has a ridiculously narrow vertical hitbox that can miss easily
>can't compare at all to saif or rakuyo
>completely shut down by wooden shield / loch shield / lead elixir

It's old and busted.

>>323981036

It's nothing like the cleavers, actually. It's a very "mobile" weapon. Once you try it out, you'll see what I mean.

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>>323975037

>half of the areas in Bloodborne were as linear as Dark Souls 2's areas, except Bb had elevators which connected the beginning, middle and end of the level, which was not in any way on par with Dark Souls 1's intertwining paths and shorcuts.
>can't invade people who don't have summons with
>all armor set are either: a coat, a mess of plumes, or a tuxedo with a cape
>enemies don't drop any kind of armor since enemy variety is minimal to the point where you see first level enemies all the way through to the last areas
>bosses don't drop any type of "boss soul" so most of the time you get no lore for them
>no wrapping between lanterns
> have to return to Hunter's Dream everytime
>can't rest at lanter to respawn enemies, have to die or go back to Hunter's dream again
>Blood Vials don't refill evetrime you rest at a lantern, despite only being able to carry 20 (more with runes) at a time. You have to buy/farm them, so you can't endesly try to fight a boss without having to go get more vials every few attempts, which could have been fixed very easily by just always giving you 20 vials or less everytine you respawn
>NCP's more forgettable than the ones in Dark Soul 2
>game is supoosed to center around the health recovery mechanic but most bosses 1-2 shoot you to death
>can't look back at environment and say "wow, I remember I was there! And how I walked all the way to here! Oh look, a tower in the distance! I bet I'll eventually go there!" Since there are so much random pointy buildings and towers all around you don't even get to go inside of, you can't tell where you've been before.
>"Unseen village" is lower than regular Yharnam, anyone can see it from a balcony
>assets are reused AGAIN to the point where they put dog (same enemy which we have seen in literally every Souls game) heads on crows and crow heads on dogs and call it a new enemy
>story more obtuse than any other soul games, no real answers for main plot elements

Just kill me

>>323981632
every thread

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>>323975037
This was my favorite boss of 2015 mostly because Bayonetta 2's final boss was shit compared to the first one and because I was still getting comfortable with the controls and really satisfied with beating the Cleric Beast and then this fucker shows up with this shit playing https://youtu.be/kA614N3IHD4?t=1m like THE TRUE DEMON'S SOULS STARTS HERE you little twink

>>323981493
>no reach
True
>pitiful scaling and AR
Attack rating sure, but they have an S scaling with Skill, the highest of any weapon skill wise if I recall.
>bad DPS
Honestly, I never had this issue, I almost always was able to get out more attacks consistently considering how fast they were and how easy they stunlocked.
>charged R2
True, which is why I rarely used it honestly
>can't compare to Saif or Rakuyo
Can't argue that.
>shut down by shields/elixer
You can get past both shields, especially Wooden Shield by mashing fast enough, and most people wont be using it in PvP honestly. Loch Shield is a bit harder, but it blocks mostly magic. Lead Elixir is a different story however.

For the base game, no DLC, they're fine weapons to be using, just learn to switch out dependent on bosses, such as Headless Bloodletting or Defiled Watch Dog, ugh, god both were nightmares with the BoM.

>>323978803
are u literally retarded? both are super easy and all their attack can be paried. Ludwig is way harder with his bullshit charge

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>>323980179
>guy dies after laughing for the last time in his life
>google search
>"nutted but she still sucking"

kek

>Tfw getting summoned by someone for Gascoigne
>They play the music box before we walk in
>Boss is expectantly easy
>Check their trophies after and they've only killed Cleric beast

Guide users everywhere

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>>323978148
>cleric beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-doUT5q_dYc&sns=fb

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>>323978496
>Ebreitas
>hard

How? Hug her side and keep hitting her. There's literally nothing she can do

>>323981989
You just dodge to the side with Ludwig and then attack his butt while he's lying there. I honestly found Ludwig to be far easier than either of those two.

Then again, that's what I love about Souls, everyone has different problems with different bosses depending on play styles. I always see people complain about Defiled Amgydala too and I didn't get hit once in that fight, didn't even come close to getting hit.

>>323981968
>Attack rating sure, but they have an S scaling with Skill, the highest of any weapon skill wise if I recall.
Yes, but scaling and gems are extremely dependent on base damage. 120 at +10 is nothing.
Rakuyo and Saif, which have A, go up to 600~700 AR easy.

Blades of Mercy doesn't get past shields, it bounces off.

I just use them for backstabbing, they're a SKL build's Augur of Ebrietas.

>>323981989
ludwig is nowhere nearly as aggressive as orphan
ludwig took me like 3 tries, orphan took at LEAST 30 with his insane 2nd form

>>323982569
I hear people talk about how hard orphan is, but he only killed me once.

I did pay attention to his attacks though, so I knew the second time that he was actually not as hard as people made him out to be, a lot of his attacks are easy to dodge compared to some of the bullshit tracking and hit boxes that exist in BB.

I thought he was fun as fuck.

Laurence on the other hand was the boss for me that would sometimes decide to kill me in the first 5 seconds of the fight or just stand there and not do shit except let me kill him

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>>323982569
>TFW still can't beat Ludwig

Am I gonna get my blonde ass mutilated further on in the DLC?

>>323982569
Exact opposite for me.
Ludwig cleared the floor with me but I thought the orphan is a pushover.
With all my builds the same shit.

>>323982816

maybe, I died to Ludwig probably 4 times and then beat the rest of the bosses on my first try. (Although with no blood vials left for Orphan or Laurence) If you can git gud at the first phase of Ludwig the second half is pretty simple.

>>323982816
Yes but not as much for the next boss, probably not for the boss after that, yes for the final boss, and far, far worse than Ludwig for the optional boss

>>323982782
funny because laurence only killed me once
that's probably because I was using a +10 whirlgig saw and after I popped a beast pellet he didn't stand a chance
I thought orphan was fun to but every attack he did in his first phase was always delayed a bit longer than i expected and in his second form he just likes to go apeshit and fuck my camera to death in the process

>>323982782
It really depends on your weapon and build.
Min str/skl ARC builds have the worst time with him, they HAVE to go to the chalices for gems to do any damage.
The bolt gems and kin gem given just before were a cruel joke, Orphan isn't kin and everything in that area is immune or near immune to bolt.

My 16/12/50 boom hammer user killed him first try though.

>>323981036
The Saif is basically "what if we made the Saw Cleaver way cooler", on ice

>>323982816
i dunno but i personnaly died at least 30 time to ludwig, and finally had to resort to summoning to get past him. Then i did all the other bosses in 3 or less tries, but i guess it really depends on your playstyle

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>>323982816
most of them are pretty easy, ludwig can be cheesed with the pizza cutter, maria is mostly a pvp fight more or less, so shes fun/hard depending on your view point of those kinds of hunter vs hunter fights.

Orphan can be hard and not hard depending on build and if you use hunters bone to spam dodges you can avoid almost all his attacks if you know his patterns

Laurence has different stories from different people, hes kinda like cleric beast if cleric beast did a lot more damage and was way more aggressive, some say he is easy others say he is bullshit.

the living failures are just an easier version of 4 kings tho

>>323975182
No i'm not. I'm not responsible for some other man's kid.

I just got near the end of the DLC and Simon isn't in the hut that he's supposed to be. I want my fucking Bow.

>>323984675
did you talk to him near the shortcut back to the first hunters nightmare lamp near the blood river?

Even if you did everything else in the dlc he should still be there, he will just skip to the hut instead of showing up at other places if you cleared them already

I forgot to talk to him too my first time doing it

>>323984675
Why didn't you just kill him right at the beginning if you wanted the bow?

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>>323985102
fucking amy always watching intently

So let me get this straight:

The MP is being beckoned by Mergo and the Mensis ritual, and it drops the bloodred moon in exitement (which nukes the town with beasts).

So why is it that when I kill the Wet Nurse and end the ritual, the bloodred moon doesn't disappear? If it was dropped in response to the exposed ritual, than it should relent once the ritual ends. What gives?

>>323985249
The ritual was beckoning Mergo in the Nightmare and the MP in the real world.

It doesn't stop until both are dead.

>>323984675
In my second playthrough he somehow died when i reached the hut and i got the items he drops.
He is probably bugged?

>>323984945

Because I didn't know about it.

>>323984920

Pretty sure I did but I'll check, thanks mate.

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>>323985234

>>323981632
>>can't rest at lanter to respawn enemies, have to die or go back to Hunter's dream again
Or use the Bold Hunter's Mark.

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>>323985485
What if Amygdalas are perched on buildings and shit but we can't see them?

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>>323985915
I can

>>323981632
>NCP's more forgettable than the ones in Dark Soul 2
Bait
>Blood Vials don't refill evetrime you rest at a lantern, despite only being able to carry 20 (more with runes) at a time. You have to buy/farm them, so you can't endesly try to fight a boss without having to go get more vials every few attempts, which could have been fixed very easily by just always giving you 20 vials or less everytine you respawn
Git gud
game is supoosed to center around the health recovery mechanic but most bosses 1-2 shoot you to death
Level vit
>story more obtuse than any other soul games, no real answers for main plot elements
Literally the best so far
>can't invade people who don't have summons with
Who cares for pvp?
>all armor set are either: a coat, a mess of plumes, or a tuxedo with a cape
Play some more

Rest are kinda accurate

>>323976729
Yeah no. I'll list that as a suicide.

>>323982116
Guide users > summon scrubs

>>323985407
They weren't beckoning Mergo, they already had it, he's in his crib not 200 yards away from Micolash's boss arena. The Mensis are in the Nightmare in the first place because they accidentally beckoned Mergo with an umbilical cord, and Micolash made a pact with him, like Gehrman did
>the Mensis ritual involved beckoning stuff irl
No. All of the Mensis staff are in the Nightmare, and their ritual is contained entirely within it. The One Reborn is not related to their plan, the witches are summoning increasingly powerful people/monsters to stop you from getting access to their boss (the Mensis), and the one reborn is their last resort
>the Mensis ritual is meant to beckon the MP
Micolash tells you in no uncertain terms that this isn't true, they're trying to beckon Kos. They're grabbing the MP by mistake

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>>323985750
>I like spending 1400 blood echoes everytime so that instead of waiting through two load screens, I only need to wait through one to do something I could do in past games within 5 seconds and one button press

Of all the easily fixable regressions peolle defend, this one boggles my mind the most.

>>323975537
Unclear, the big guy with the tree starts saying things like "Oh sister why" and shit after the youngest dies, yet there is a corpse of another girl down the stairs

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>dicking around in Nightmare of Mensis
>Kos parasite
>no milkweed, only fists
>adversary Nignog has arrived
>spin in place like a spaz
>he returns the gesture
>fighting ensues
>hp critically low
>run away!
>he gives chase
>stop abruptly, bow
>he bows back
>beg for life
>silencing blank

I think that was my favorite pvp encounter to date.

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>>323986109
Bloodborne is the best story since demon's souls, I don't get why people don't understand this, maybe its because the story doesn't beat them over the head in game, and the story makes more sense on second playthroughs as you absorb more of the lore through equipment descriptions and some npc dialogue.

But there is always the lore hounds who have taken ass loads of time to put together a summary with their own theories on the game, there is even a 100 page document someone made to explain bloodbornes story followed by his own interpretation of it, which doesn't happen with dark souls story, because for the most part its cut and dry, still a bit ambiguous of course, but less reliant on imagination and theories.

Demon's souls was the same way, but unfortunately not as many people played that so the lore hounds were few and far between to try and piece everything together for people who couldn't (or wouldn't) do it themselves.

But there is no way bloodborne has a bad story even if its just all theories, its fucking amazing even if nothing is concrete, and that's what makes it so compelling.

>>323986109

>git gud

How is one supposed to get good if every few tried they need to go farm blood vials for half an hour to get 5 more tries?

>who cares for pvp?
>who cares that they entirely ruined/simplified one of the core aspect of the series?

>>323986565
>100 page document someone made to explain bloodbornes story followed by his own interpretation of it

>Literally five paragraphs in of set-in-stone facts with item description proof followed by his own interpetation.

So 95 pages of head-cannons?

>>323986585
>im trash so that means the game is ruined
I had 0 problems with blood vials, I was capped out from excess blood vials by the time i got to mergo's loft

I've seen some complaints, and many fair enough, but this one is beyond stupid, souls games have always and will always be about cautious play, even in bloodborne where the game is more frenetically paced.

Accept the caution and youll be swimming in excess vials

>>323986565
>there is even a 100 page document someone made to explain bloodbornes story followed by his own interpretation of it

Believe it or not it's not half bad. I've read half of it so far and I've actually learn a lot of stuff.

I'm still confused as to why there are snakes in the forbidden forest. Everywhere else there are invertebrates but these, outside of the pigs, are the only vertebrates in the entire game.

>>323987027
There is a giant snake spirit that inhabits the Nightmare. The residents of the Forbidden Woods were conducting forbidden research into summoning and controlling it. It's lore in the Madaras Whistle

>>323986816
you can piece together the games legit backstory from descriptions, which he does, he has a few paragraphs of his thoughts on the actual way things played out, thats it mostly, only some of it is head cannon

When i say he pieces it together, I mean he lays it out in summary as opposed to just quoting the descriptions the entire way, w/e fuck it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/preview?pref=2&pli=1

Well thought out headcannons are worth reading anyway, since barring miyazaki coming out and telling the story himself to you, its all you got, and some make enough sense that it could actually be the case, but grain of salt and all that

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>>323986923
Wow, you must be le harcode gamer xD, just le git gud xP. Who needs good gameplay mechanics when we play le real men games? dud I bet u play call of le dudbro halo games xDDD
You need to le pepper to die

>>323987212
>Objectively speaking,
Stopped right here.

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People complain about this
>>323981632
pasta

When people like
>>323986416
>>323986585
bring up good points, people literally either ignore them or start spouting "git gud"

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>>323986515

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>>323986585
>core aspect of the series

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>>323985102
>>323985485
Wait, what happened to the absolutely massive Amygdala from the demo? Remember? It was hanging off of a tower or something?

And I kind of remember it looking more like a spider?

And remember when Gascoigne directly referenced Demon's Souls?

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>>323987576
you okay dude?

Souls games aren't even that hardcore man, they all follow the same axiom

I guess I should expect nothing else from people that only played dark souls and dark souls 2, bloodborne was designed to be a spiritual successor to demon's souls, so the healing items are a capped out version of grass which requires some farming, its not estus flask shit

>>323987998

It became the Amgydalas we see all over the place. Lots of changes happen in development.

>>323987576
Wow someone went mad because he's too shit for a video game.

>>323987998
There were copy right issues with Atlus or something so that's why they removed demon souls stuff

Shit changes during development.

>>323978496
>ebrietas

you can just wedge yourself between her tails and go for a ride, I literally got stuck and she and I spent the whole fight spinning around in a circle

>>323987521
beast pellet
fire paper
run around in circles killing them as they spawn
hide behind pillar if one of them tries to hit your with ranged attacks

>>323987998
It makes sense.

When the slayer of demons defeated the old one he effectively purged magic from the world.

Fast forward a couple hundred years, we have only hints of what was once magic and rely heavily on tech.
Not saying it IS the same universe, but...

Umbasa.

>want to do a tinge or arcane build
>don't feel like getting through like half the game with substandard weapons before the actual good ones for my build becme available
It takes too fucking long to get some of the weapons in this game, especially if you want one that you can only get after beating rape horse since good luck doing that without a +9 weapon.

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MASTER, LOOK! I'VE DONE IT, I'VE DONE IT!

I SMASHED

AND POUNDED

AND GROUNDED THIS SIREN INTO FLESHY PINK PULP!

>>323988446
This was my major issue with the game, and it's why I think people that advocate for a 250 pvp meta have a point, level to where everyone hits all hard caps so you can use every weapon and not get 2 shot at the same time, maybe a bit excessive, but considering you can't sequence break half the game i under 2 hours like dark souls, it looks appealing after awhile.

Otherwise you are stuck with playing your build and facing an uphill battle for 60-70% of the game til you get the one weapon that your build actually works with.

It's even a worse grind when you consider you have to grind out gems in the shitty chalice dungeons again, too.

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>beat Rom
>can suddenly see all the amygdala's
>lose any sense of comfy from that point on
I just wanted to be a Van Helsing type beast hunter

>>323978148
>Implying Gascoigne's theme is bad

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>>323988835

>Want a cool victorian setting with scary beasts
>get to this part
>AYY LMAO

Fucking hate this shit.

>>323979128
>Gascoigne is the hardest maingame boss
If you used your gun even once you would realize that he's easy to parry.

>>323988990
those were actually the successful variation of the living failures, they were only created to help the healing church talk to ebrietas, pretty much only a few of the great ones in the game are true ayyy lamos

>>323988990
Is Bloodborne more "Ayy Lmao" or "Dude Werewolves Lmao"?

>>323989117

I don't care, they look fucking stupid.

>>323989123

You get more Ayy Lmao the farther you get, but it's still like 75% Were Lmao

>>323988990
this design never even made sense to me. Why do the need to look like generic ayylmao's? Aren't they beings created by the church to communicate with the great ones or some shit? They could of chosen any other design to fit the theme of the game, and they chose goofy stumbling generic aliens.

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>>323989123
Bloodborne is brotherhood of the wolf if it was written by HP lovecraft

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>>323988990
This one I don't mind since it's human made attempt at AYY. Once we start going full LMAO do I start to to hate it.

also they fucked up by now having a crossbow like fire arm.

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>>323988480
>MFW I brought Annalise back to life afterwards

>>323989123
The bosses get more ayy as time goes on but most enemies stick to beasts and crazy people.

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>>323988990
Requesting someone to change the name "celestial emyssary" to "Ayy Lmaos"

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>>323989321
That was rude anon.

Alfred is probably one of the only souls NPCs to fully realize his goals, and you piss on him. You're a stinky face.

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>Just finished the game for the first time
>Wet Nurse, Gehrman, and Moon Presence were all complete jokes compared to Ludwig, Laurence, and Orphan

Nice balance, From.

>>323989234
they don't have particularly interesting move sets either and they're laughably easy so I can only guess they're there to pad the game

>>323989505
>the DLC bosses mainly for people who already finished the game are hard :(

>>323989857
>For people who finished the game
>Can't do them after finished the game without trigger New Game+

One of the few things Dark Souls 2 did right was not having automatic NG+.

>>323989505

>DLC bosses designed to be fought after you beat the main game are harder

NO SHIT SON

>>323989951
I did like that feature

>>323989951

Sure you can, do what I did.

>Make cloud back up of save
>Beat Gehrman for trophy
>Reload

So I've killed him and have his weapon and went to the DLC without using NG+. Moon Presence is just waiting for me.

>>323989505
I thought actually getting through the hunters nightmare and its many harder enemy types was harder than the actual bosses of the DLC

>>323986565

I agree. Bloodbornes story is much better than any of the Souls games, only slightly better than Demon's. Retards cant comprehend the story because they've never seen 2001, read any actual hard science fiction novels, or know anything about Darwin outside of muh evolution.

>>323989951
>finish DaS2
>go around killing every npc to grab all their stuff like I did in DaS
>start NG+
>your sins aren't forgetten and I spend all of NG+ and NG++ getting harassed by blue sentinels

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>tfw poor gilbert

>>323990168
Just the Anchor Shark guy for me. Only hard enemy in the DLC.

>>323975182
and his dad

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>>323990182
DUDE
FIGURE IT ALL BY YOURSELF BECAUSE THERE IS NO REAL ANSWER AND EVERYBODY IS RIGHT WHILE I CAPITALIZE ON PEOPLE CALLING MY STORY DEEPAND PROMOTING MY GAME BY MAKING "LORE" VIDEOS
LMAO

>>323990772
Who's Gascoigne's father?

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>>323990772
>tfw henryk went searching for his daughter and son in law and found both dead and then was attacked by eileen before he could track down his granddaughters

>>323990772
Henryks was his partner and not his dad. His partnership with Gascoigne just led him to age alot more slowly than usual, hence why he is so old.

>>323990940
it's implied henryk is

>>323990974
actually sometimes you can get to henryk before eileen shows up (bug maybe?) and he is standing over where you found the pendant

>>323990974
>gascoignes daughter mentions granddad
>find him crazy where gascoigne and his daughter in law are
>"tragically long life" in item description
Henryk was gascoignes dad

>>323990983
Can't be we know Papa Gas was a foreigner but there's nothing that implies Henryk was one. If they are family its likelier to be through marriage then blood.

>>323991173
It is more implied that Henryk was Violette's dad and not Gascoigne's dad, which explains his partnership with him.

>>323991318
there are so many implications that they were related and hunted together

>>323991395
that may be true it's unclear

>>323975037
>Start with Hunter Axe
>Mfw he has the same weapon as me

Would have been cool if the tutorial fight was a straight up mirror match depending on the weapon you choose.

Or just have him use your weapon, even in NG+

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Oh hey is that Gasgwahn?

>>323976729
Does the little sister have a body?

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Would have been funny if wearing Father Gas armor had any effect on Henryk. Could have been something small like the music box, or maybe even an Gesture before fighting/summoning.

>>323991989
No the giant pig in the sewer eats her. On a serious note do not fall asleep around pigs they will eat you.

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>>323990865
>Past games
Demon's Souls worked the same way and no one gave a shit.
>1400 echoes
>a lot

I understand this now. This guys farming for souls cause he fucking sucks.

>>323975037
>Holy Memelight Sword
>Meme Cutter
>Memeletter
>Meme Axe
>Whirly Meme
>Memekage
>All other weapons that aren't the cane

When will you peasants realize that the cane is the height of skill and style when it comes to bloodborne. Stop playing with meme weapons that play the game FOR you.

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>>323992231
>not starting the game as a professional with threaded cane and making a skill/bt build to use reiterpallasch

Gask-con-u

>>323986515
Only had one PvP encounter during my free two day PSN trial

He was one of those friendly guys that just guided me around. Maybe he thought my character was cute

>>323992502
his name is pronounced gauscoin

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>>323992231
> he doesn't use amy's arm or the ayylmao
> the most unique and interesting weapons in the entire fucking series
> probably even of most games

so what was the end game exactly with creating the dream and the hunters? to just kill other great ones?

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>>323987845
Why was it so important to fuse a dog and a bird anyway. They're fucking everywhere. Speaking of which, we see dogs, but no hostile birds

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why does bb look so gamey compared to w3?

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>>323992834
i hope you're not actually implying theres no hostile birds in bloodborne

>>323988420
considering half the world is already covered in demon fog, it might as well be what people consider a nightmare or dream.
You could consider the headstones as archstones, and youre bound to some actual location in the demon half of the world similar to like the nexial binding
You also see demons souls knight armor in the centuries old chalice dungeons.

You can have whatever head canon you want. I like linking them, personally.

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>tfw can't beat micolash

He just spams the magic missle attack everytime

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>>323992834
>that sound the dogs with bird heads make

>>323993007
But those birds make dog noises

>>323992834
>no hostile birds
Do the crows not count? Because i can never forget hearing the crow's fucking scream all over Yharnam.

>>323992815
Seems like the Moon Presence just wants you to murder Great One babies. Which is why your contract isn't terminated until you slay Mergo.

>>323993114
stick close to him and he'll never use it

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HAVE YOU GOT A SCREW LOOSE?

>>323992610

It's not fucking Gas coin, that's stupid and sounds like a fart fetishist namefag.

>>323993114
you gotta keep in his face to keep him from casting that, the tentacle tickle is piss easy to dodge and when he casts you can always get a backstab

if you see him casting call beyond get in his face and slash him, granted youre already at close range, and it will stop him from casting. I had a lot of trouble with this fucker in NG++ you just have to keep in his face and go for cheese viscerals

>>323992815
the dream is just the place that gehrman is stuck in, while the nightmare in the DLC is where blood drunk hunters and some dead important plot characters go (maria and orphan of kos, who are both dead in the real world)

Supposedly the moon presence trapped gehrman there when he called out for help or w/e to revive maria, and instead of actual help he just got some great one fuck that wanted to fuck his day up.

Certain hunters are pulled into the dream from gehrman, he tells you to hunt the paleblood or some shit cause he hates all the great ones or wants moon presence to show up idk

Gehrman existed in the waking worlds past and he, laurence, and some others splintered off from byrgenworth academy to create the healing church and the hunter order, which was an elite squad of beast hunters that quelled the humans that turned into monsters after receiving treatment, quietly.

Eventually old yarhnam happened and they disbanded the old hunters (gehrmans group), and a few generations passed and ludwig showed up and basically militarized the populace, hence why you see half turned hunters attacking you in the streets at the start. Ludwig dealt with the problem not with assassinations, but outright force but arming the population, and that called for "hunting nights" more or less.

>>323993114
The Choir Set has pretty good Arcane resistance if i recall correctly.

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>>323992924
white people modeled in Japanese video games tend to look less realistic than western video games because the developers are less familiar with white features.

Similarly, here's some photos of Chinese waxwork models.

>>323992834

Because the nightmare is literally encroaching on reality. The last leg of the game (red moon) is pretty much like the last few levels of Silent Hill, the nightmare is consuming reality

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>>323981632
>typical Speedrun/"Dark Souls 2 was my first souls game" pasta

>>323989321
You miscreant rat!

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>want to make a new build
>thoughts immediately wander to chalice dungeons

>>323993264
Hey dude, you should totally visit Iosefka's Clinic

>>323992834

What the fuck does the monocular do anyway?

>>323993421
How come Fromsoft never uses Orcs or Elves in any of their shit?

>>323993421
I'm kind of here. I platinum the game recently after months of playing it. I wanted to do a new build, which would be only my 3rd build, but going through everything, clearing out shit, getting short cuts, running all around, whatever. Just don't wanna.

>>323993531
Zoom in on things

>>323993264

There any real benefit to fighting him instead of shipping off to become Mr. Meeseeks?

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>>323993264
>TFW fighting him with out knowing that's what he would turn into

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>"Ah, you were at my side all along"
One of the best fights in the series.

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>>323993531

Let's you look at shit a little more closely

>>323993264
>couldn't even find him
is it to late to save him once the moon turns red and BLESSES ME WITH EYES

>>323993631
I was spoiled about an obviously sketchy NPC that wants to kill people in your safehouse, but I didn't know he'd transform, holy shit

>>323993537
Because Orcs and Elves are hackneyed and make your fantasy setting look generic and boring,

>>323993264
>Die! Die, die! Hunters are killers, nothing less! You call ME a beast? A Beast!? What would you know? I didn't ask for this!

>>323993531
Give you more "insight"
Hehe

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>>323993631

>watching the teamfourstar guys randomly attack him because they're shitting around and killing every character that can be directly interacted with

>>323993537

Pretty sure they had elves in the King's Field series.

>>323993764

Depends on how you use them, though

>>323993764
Yeah, but they like to use and twist around all the other fantasy staples. Like there were those Dwarf guys in DS2, they were pretty cool. Couldn't they just do that for the others?

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so the cosmic horrors somehow find surrogate mothers for their kids by...turning everyone into werewolves?

>>323993925

Did you even play the game?

>>323987998
I was thinking about this today, I definitely remember a scarier looking amygdalas than those in the final game.

>>323993925
the beast plague comes from using great ones blood to treat illness in the population

Hunters were created to deal with the turning population but it got out of hand

>>323993925
No. The Old Blood Laurence passed around did that. No the Great Ones find surrogates when the Paleblood Moon descends. Everyone in town begins to go mad and a few chosen women randomly find themselves pregnant with alien babies. Some take it better than others. And yes that does mean that the red moon is a signal that alien god beings are getting laid.

>>323987521
Pillar stops Draco Meteor

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who /fashionborne/ here?

This outfit looks surprisingly good together.

>>323993925
It's heavily implied the werewolf stuff was in us all along and the blood is unlocking our natural potential. That doesn't have much to do with the aliens other than that we use their blood to do it.

>>323987576

You do know the games aren't nearly as hard as most of the obnoxious fans make them out to be, right?

Hell, I've found BB to be reasonably easier than DS, and I've only maybe completed half of the latter

>>323992834
theory goes that nightmares draw on what you know. Everyone in the nightmare contributes to what exists within it.
The nightmare eye ladies have the dolls clothes on because that's what you remember, same with the birds and dogs.
I think it might be kinda a joke because the crows you see in other areas sound kinda like rabid dogs.
It's not like anyone took the time to summon dog birds as guards or anything, just your subconscious making it real in the nightmare.

Maybe cuz the two other nightmares/dreams have gods in them, they aren't so susceptible to changes from the player character. But since the ayy lmao in the hunters' nightmare is only a child, your mind affects it more, making it look like areas you have already explored

Does anyone have AWAY.png

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"Ahh...how goes your hunt? Don't forget to remove all vermin and filth lingering about."

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>>323994148
Oh you know it.

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>Buy BB
>Had played DaS and DaS2 and SotFS prior
>Friend is talking mad shit after I kill the Cleric Beast
>"Yeah one of my characters is modeled after the next boss you fight, he's going to fuck you up."
>Find Gas-can's boss room
>Badass intro
>Fight begins
>Immediately visceral him twice and follow up with a combo
>He transforms
>Wow this dude isn't fucking around
>Two more viscerals and a molotov for the coup de grace
>He shot me twice, never landed a melee

My friend said beginner's luck, I told him to go fuck himself, easy fight for such a badass character

>mfw I didn't even know what the music box was supposed to do until after I had beaten Micolash

>>323994148
>Want to post character
>Everyone posts screens from a cutscene for the best camera angles on their Hunters
>Feel like I'm doing things wrong

;_;

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>>323994398
PLAGUE RIDDEN RAT

>>323993613
early rune

I recently Platinum'd Bloodborne. I wish I didn't though because now I cannot be assed to start a new playthrough.
I'd like to try an Arcane build though

>>323994504

If you understand how parrying works all human enemies become trivial.

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>>323981159
>mfw pure 1v1 fight using Rakuyo against the Crow
pure ecstasy

>>323994531

I swear the "plague ridden" part so said so close together it sounded like "Plagian" or something, like we were being accused of hailing from some place they hated

>>323994423
I love how passionate he gets in his speech

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.>>323994148

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>you will never have eyes inside
>you will never be blessed with eyes
>Kos fags will never leave

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>maria has a unique model and you can't make your own via character creator

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>>323994507
could be worse anon, you could be envious over people's ability to make qts

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>>323981159
>bloodtinge build fuck of an npc doing 80% of your hp with pot shots
that nigga gettin cheesed senpai

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>>323994148
Mhmm

>>323993819
When was that?

>>323994765
I think this is the same face that I copied for my Hunter. If not, you're probably the Anon who gave me the sliders

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>>323994746
>you will never chill in the hunter's dream talking to the doll

>>323988990
Celestial ayyyymissary

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>>323994423
>>323994696
>tfw you realize its his missing eye that gives you access to the hunter's nightmare

>>323994504
I hyped the bloodletting beast to an acquaintance and the guy motherfucking wrecked it, first try, with video evidence.

I got salty because it took at least 2 hours of my time.

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>>323994148

Don't have a pic of the front at the moment, but I've got the charred coat, old hat and gloves, and one of the boots one.

Shit's almost like Vampire Hunter D, even though I wound up making my guy unintentionally look like Auron from Final Fantasy X

>>323993537
I think some enemies might be called orcs, since the enemy names aren't anywhere but the guide its hard to know what they're supposed to be.

The potbelly poison guys near where you find the pyromancy lady in DS2 are called goblins, but I just assumed they were deformed hollows at first, apparently they're not, and never were human.

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>>323994696
>Alfred uses sweet voiced and polite when talking to you.
>When he cleanses the tarnished streets he GOES IN and talks in a vicious tone while laughing maniacally.

That finale to his quest line cemented him as my favorite NPC.

>>323994901
I got that pic from /bbg/, I definitely can't make heads or tails of the game's character creator

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>>323994148

>>323994939
Do you know you can turn the HUD off?

>>323994860

10th or 11th part of their playthrough for the game. They just got to Mergo's wet nurse and died once, then fell down the elevator when returning for round 2

>>323994927

It took me 3 hours to kill Micolash

I would get him down to half for his second phase and he would just spam his magic AoE as soon as I jumped into the room, I'm probably underleveled for this point in the game

>>323994765
I need the sliders to this cutie patootie.

>>323994770
>>323981159
Patched so he can't Chikage to death

NPC fights in souls games are unfair as fuck. Just the other day I dropped a Lightning Spear on a npc invader face for 112 damage. Not even bothered by it, he Great Soul Arrowed me for half the HP bar.

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>>323995010
>pissing your pants in front of waifu

>>323995025

Why's it matter? Not nearly as intrusive as most HUDs

would you guys fuck Kos

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>>323994784
damn that chest piece is so damn good.

>>323994939
this one too.

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>>323994423
>completing his questline makes him blood addled and he becomes trapped in the nightmare

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>>323994423
Who /confederate/ here?

>>323995143
>being a Kosfag
*Kosm

>>323993531
lets you aim guns and spells, same with DS2.

Basically makes it a third person shooter, it's actually pretty fun if you have a high bloodtinge character, you can't aim up or down very far though.

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>>323995025
it's already off

>>323995202
Reporting. They have the best gesture in the entire game aswell

>>323995143
No but I'd fuck Kosm

>>323995202
Right here anon.

>>323995202
Here sadly I'm in offline mode

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>>323995202
I'm only at 100 vermin

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>>323995127
You know how hard it is to get blood off white clothing? Especially when you spend most of the day covered in it?

>>323988223
That's a lie dumbass Sony owns Demon's Soul they can do what they want Atlus only published it in the states

>>323995243
>quest trackers
fuck dude I hate this shit in gaming, its so intrusive and immersion breaking

I have my gripes with souls games but thank god they keep it minimal

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>>323994423
>tfw no version of his coat without the Cape

It's bullshit

>>323995243
>implying having the screen telling you you've picked up too many bullets on the bottom right and out of the way instead of a center-screen textbox to have to click through is a bad thing

>>323995243
Sometimes I find myself wishing for a map or minimap but that shit is too far.

What sort of other settings would you guys like to see them tackle? I recall another thread discussing something using dieselpunk or at least a more clockwork style aesthetic for another game.

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>>323994939
>charred coat, old hat
A man of taste, I see.

>>323995510

I don't mind them when they're kept to the quest screen like in NV, but having them on at all times certainly is a pain

>>323994784

Old Hunter's Hat goes well with fucking everything, some fucking Vampire Hunter D shit up in here.

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>>323995202
"My confederate. Promise me you'll crush all vermin,
to rid us of our impurities.
For the sake of our fellows,
all blood-stained hunters of the League."

im still keeping his promise to this day.

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>>323995638
the future, generic answer I guess but I'd love to see at least one souls game in the future

>inb4 armored core

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>>323994148
I don't know why my screenshots are saving as jpegs even though I set it to png.

I think the Knight armor is trying a bit too hard though

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>>323995695

Too bad we can't get a parasite embedded in our hands. The hentai hands don't really count, either.

Oh well, maybe if they do a sequel

>>323995441

>cannon and not gatling

You want to tenderize your meat, not fucking blast it to pieces.

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>>323994148
>>323995770
Same character, the boxart clothes look great on anyone.

>>323995770
I like to assume the fuckhuge hands are just a byproduct of your blood ministration at the start

They seem to get more bestial when you do v attacks anyway

>>323995638
Future/sci-fi Souls is a given answer. But i'd also like if if they ever went with a classical Bronze Age/early Iron Age or perhaps one that borrows from India.

>>323995721

I mentioned an idea like having meat mecha not unlike the EVAs that you could steal parts from to add to your own in lieu of the armor/weapons

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>>323975037
Enough to make a catgirl sick

So I accidentally killed Patches because of my fear of spiders. What stuff does he do to trick you anyway? I saw that he did the same trick he does in the other games, where he puts down a trail of shiny stuff for you to follow. But he didn't do anything to me when I picked up the item.

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>>323995868
>red gloves from the knight set peeking out

nice, reminds me of pic related

Do I have to worry about clipping through hats if I get that ponytail hairstyle Iosefka has?

>>323995871
>Try to pick gloves that give my girl slender hands
>Everything's bear-sized

>>323996141
Hah.

>>323993925
>>323994065
>>323994079

Wait, I thought it was caused by the curse the Great Ones put on the people of Byrgenwerth, cursing the fiends, their children too, and their children forever. All that stuff.

And then Byrgenwerth split up into other groups including the Healing Church and started spreading their cursed blood around?

>>323996339

Nope.

Heck, even gear that has a collar that would ordinarily keep it tucked inside makes it disappear too.

I honestly forgot my current character had it after wearing the Tomb Prospector chest piece for so long.

>>323980179

>not sticking with the threaded cane for the entire game

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>>323994507
Just post it.

>>323996463
the curse mostly affects the hunters, because the desecrated the people of the fishing hamlet, ripping through their skulls looking for eyes on their brains

Maria threw her weapon into the well and killed herself to get away from it, her quote about leaving a dead body alone is mostly referring to the orphan of kos (where the umbilical cords come from in the waking world).

Simon in the dlc mentions as he lay dying, that we (hunters) shouldn't have to bear the sins of the father forever, it isn't fair.

The population just turn because of the blood transfusions that are happening, not everyone does though, at least until the end of the game when people stop answering the doors when you knock on them

>>323996601
Hm, the Tomb Prospector Hood works with the Crowfeather Garb better then i thought it would.

Reminder that Vilebloods did literally nothing wrong

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>>323996883
Remove Vilecunts

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>>323995818
Literally my other weapon dawg.

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>>323996883

>>323996463

The blood of old ones is cursed, period. Administering it to oneself repeatedly will inevitably lead to beasthood.

The true way to ascension is through the study of the Great Ones voices, transcribing their language, gaining Insight into the way they manipulate the universe. Even this is not a guarantee, however. You are far more likely to simply turn into a Kin instead.

The Church knew this, but didn't want the knowledge to spread. Instead they used Ebrietas' blood on the greater populace, to gain control of them and the city itself, to further their true research.

And then somewhere in the middle the Cainhursts found their own source of blood in the Pthumerian tombs, not from Ebrietas, that had its own transformative properties - still including a "beasthood" of sorts, but some individuals became undying abominations instead of gigantic beasts.

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>>323996986
>no demon's souls NPC loading screen images
>just item description images

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>>323996986

I'm glad the UK is cracking down on these things.

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>>323994923

>tfw when you summon him after getting the helm and he has both eyes.

>tfw you realize he's not the original owner of the helmet.

>>323997402
I figured that was him before he started the covenant, and possibly before he even loses his eye.

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>>323997402
>mfw the rabbit hole goes ever deeper
can anyone stop the ayyys from their devious machinations

>tfw want to try Rakuyo on my low level shitter
>look where I can acquire it
>"Fishing Hamlet. Go to the bottom of the well and kill those sharkthings"

why is this allowed
guess I'll continue with my saif and bowblade then

Is whirligig saw the most satisffying wepaon to use?

>>323994923
>>323995193
>>323997402
Isn't the hunter's nightmare in the past?
Hence why you see Laurence in his beast form in the DLC and see his skull in vanilla.
Same way you fight Maria but she's dead in the real world.
Also how you fight Ludwig, but he's dead in the real world.

Again, seeing Valtr without his helmet and also having both of his eyes.

>>323997665
Nope, that would be cane whip

>started NG+
>look at all the things I missed in my first playthrough
blood rock
many optional bosses
3rd umbilical
certain npc quests

I'm mostly mad about the blood rock and umbilical, since those were in my control. I don't want to go through certain portions again, since they suck so much ass such as: the forest, shadows of yharnam, reunlocking all the shortcuts, and Rom. Rom isn't even that hard to fight, it's those damn kamakaze spiders that have high face defense and the sheer number of them. I did one attempt with the summon for that fight to see how long the guys lasts. He may have soul mass, but that did beans for damage and he got annihilated by Rom's crystal rain.

>>323997735
as far as I know the nightmare is just a place where the "lost" go, blood drunk hunters and the like, and lingering dead souls

It's not the past, at least I don't think so, because of how the nightmare is formed, like having the fishing hamlet behind the astral clocktower where you fight maria, also if you look around marias room you can see her own coffin hanging there.

But its open for interpretation I think.

>>323997735
It's set in the present, but it's mimicking events of the past

>>323997735
There's also supposedly Amelia praying in the cathedral where the elevator is

tfw Rakuyo doesnt have a blood mode like Maria did.

I appreciate that its a pure dex weapon which the game is in short supply of but fuck if the blood and fore mode wasnt the coolest shit

>>323997735
It's not the past, it's just the trapped spirits or minds of dead hunters, some of which have been there for decades, so they still use their old weapons and such.

Considering he has one eye in the real world, his maskless version is probably just his mind which got stuck in the nightmare after he presumably died or sodoku'd knowing you'd keep up the good work.

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Why is she so CUTE?

>>323998138
that's because it isnt a blood weapon like chikage, maria was a vileblood (hence her tall stature and pale skin and white hair), the blood abilities were her own, and she used rakuyo in the waking world because she despised her own blood magic capabilities

Why she uses them on you in the nightmare? Maybe to keep you from the fishing hamlet, I don't know.

Ayy lmao or Grr lmao?

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>>323997158
A damn shame, it is. Especially as Bloodborne has a decent amount of unique npc/bosses that could have been used.

>>323998402
Grr lmao

>>323997758
>Dude whips lmao

vs

>Chainsaw

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>>323998402
>Not ascending
>Remaining in a state of beastly idiocy

Ayy, it's not even a choice.

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Post Hunters.

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Real question

Why does the armor set with the best overall defenses in the game (save frenzy), make you look like a vagrant hobo

It would have still looked okay without the knapsack on the back

>>323998428
I really need to go find that set with all the Demons Souls loading screens in wallpaper size again

>>323997735
The Nightmare was created as a curse by Kos after he died. All of those involved with his death would be trapped in the Hunters Nightmare. Ludwig took part in the slaughtering of the fishing village, so he becomes trapped there after his death. Maria was involved too so she goes there after she killed herself. Laurence ordered it in the first place so that's why you find him there. The other Hunters helped in the slaughter so they too are trapped there. The only reason Gherman isn't there is because he's obviously trapped in the Hunter's Dream by Moon Presence. So yes, it takes place in the "past" but it's a twisted memory of the past.

>>323998672
>Armor stats
>mattering

I'm trying to figure out more about the Hunter in the Grand Cathedral who fucks up Eileen. There HAS to be something more to him than random hunter.

>when you enter the Cathedral, the way he's just standing there with his arms held out to his sides, then slowly lowers them as you approach
>unlimited healing ANYTIME you try to back away
>parries like a pro
>can't even be cheesed after the patch

>>323998129
That's not her.

>>323998786
his name is the bloody crow, its heavily implied he is a blood drunk hunter of hunters, of which there is only supposed to be one at a time of, so maybe her mentor

The lore as I'm aware of it at least, is that hunter of hunters are sort of outsourced individuals that have hardly any connection to the actual shop, so they can easily do their job without feeling remorse

Even if there is more than one at a time, that would still be why she says the score is personal and hers to settle

>>323998317
She didn't despise the blood magic itself but just her lineage. She uses her abilities in the nightmare because she's already killed herself over her guilt and has no dignity left.

>>323993537
They did in the King's Field games.
Elves were a major part of them. High elves were everywhere, and your childhood friend waifu was a brown elf.

They probbly don't want to be that cliche.

>>323998957
Ah, thank you. I'm so interested because he gave me more trouble than any other boss in the main game.

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>>323994148
Wanted an aristocratic look for my Blood Countess, choir pants+knight torso give me that 17th century royalty kind of feel

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>>323998786
He's a pretty odd hunter considering he wields a chicago and wears a Cainhurst helmet, yet, wields a repeating pistol which is a church hunter weapon and on top of that he wears the attire of a hunter of hunters and possesses a old hunter's bone. In my headcannon, he's just a reflection of a player who just wears and equips whatever works for him.

>>324000775
nah, he is a hunter of hunters that hails from cainhurst, you can tell hunter of hunters are foreign, as eileen also has an accent

>>323976729
I want to rub my dick all over those delicious legs in tights

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You have 10 (TEN) seconds to name a set of better-looking armor.

>>323978148
What? I killed Gascoigne easily, first try as well with no music box. Non dlc wise Shadows of Yharnam gave me the most trouble, embarrassingly enough. Looking back they pretty much felt like the skeleton lords from ds2. I'm fucking dreading some of the later chalice bosses though.

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>>324001079
Henryk's is better, even if you don't replace the hat with the Old Hunter's Cap like I did.

>>323994148
I'm usually running around in a Cainhurst knight set with the crown but I've switching to the Choir set with the Moonlight GS or the Constable set with a top hat, pistol and the whirligig saw in the mace form pretending I'm a British police officer.