>New mainstream Metroid comes out >You can choose between:

>>323931237
Why can't we have like a third person shooter instead

Last for sure, but first mission is also my favourite game of all time.

>>323931639
This.

FPS are cancer and 2D sidescrollers are oversaturated.

Obviously everyone will pick option 2. We haven't had a 2D Metroid in over a decade, and if the FPS isn't even going to have gameplay as good as Prime why bother? Who gives a shit about story in Metroid?

>>323931237

The first one of course

That goes double if it's a story that's told through exploration, rather than through cutscenes and forced exposition a la Prime

>>323932234
>prime
>cutscenes and forced exposition

Did you even play Prime 1?

>>323931237
>like prime series
>like main series

I dont give a damn if it's 2D or 3D.
Just give me something Metroid that isn't filled with chibi action sports

Nintendo hardly even acknowledges metroid now

I choose option C:

Nintendo makes a new IP worth a shit that can captivate people the way its older IPs did.

>>323932351

I worded that poorly, I meant that Prime didn't have those things

>>323931237
>Story is the only thing that matters aside from gameplay

Is it the core gameplay that's the good bit or are you including level and enemy design?

Also define "Heavy handed" and "subpar".
Are we talking Other M levels of heavy handed and subpar?

I'd pick 1 if there was any chance that it'd see a proper PC release. 2 is probably superior for the console approach because a controller is more suited to it.

>>323931639
A third-person Metroid game would just be Zelda with a gun. The only difference between the two series has been perspective (top-down vs side-scrolling, third-person vs first-person).

>>323932628
That's because Japan doesn't like the Metroid series.

>>323932916
> A third-person Metroid game would just be Zelda with a gun.

Please elaborate how you came to that comparison and not either "RE4 but in space" or "Nintendo's Dead Space "

>>323933159
>tfw galactic federation is a huge success in Japan and is the new direction of metroid

>>323931237
Both sound lovely. I'm a bit biased toward 2d though, Just to see what it'd be like since it's been a while.

>>323933554
Federation Force
Not galactic federation

>>323931639
Other M left a very bad taste it seems

>>323931237
I'd take both. It'd be exactly like when Fusion and Prime 1 came out.

>>323933554
Makes me glad I was alive for each release of Metroid before the series turned shit.
And yes I bought Metroid 1 when it was first released.

Obviously the first one. AM2R fills my 2D Metroid niche.

>>323931237
>>3D FPS with good gameplay but god-tier story
This is vague. You got another FPS in mind for comparison?

>>323934035
I started with Fusion and liked it so much that I went back and played each game chronologically

Future is not looking bright at all for Metroid...

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>>323932676
Already happened, retard

>>323933725
Other M's problem was that it wasn't treated like a shooter but an action instead. I know it left a really sour taste but people steer away from to having one game ruin all future attempts

I just love the look of the power suit and all of the upgrades are so intriguing to me and satisfying to use. I want another super or zero mission or hell even fusion because apart from the AI pointing you where to go all the time it was still a really fun game and I still replay that shit.

2D in a heartbeat. Metroid's story was never worth a shit anyway.

>>323933454
The basic concept of Zelda and Metroid is the same:
>start your adventure as a lone character with very limited equipment
>traverse the game world and find new items/power-ups
>use these items/power-ups to reach new areas

Like I said, the main difference between them was that Zelda had a top-down perspective whilst Metroid had a side-scrolling perspective. This small difference allows for a lot of differences when it comes to puzzles, combat and world design, which is why most people never make the link between the two. But when you transition from 2D to 3D, you combine these perspectives. So the differences between the two would be minimal.

The Prime series was well-done. Even if it didn't fully translate everything from the 2D games, it translated the main core of the experience. And using a first-person view all the time allows for different kinds of puzzle, combat and world designs compared to a third-person view.

Not to mention that a gun/cannon has always been Samus' primary weapon of choice. And a first-person perspective has always been better than a third-person perspective for ranged weapons.

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>>323931237

I for the life of me cannot understand why people have a problem with prime's perspective. First person is ideal for a game like metroid. They just needed to tweak the shooting a bit and add some advanced movement

>>323934978
Metroid never had puzzles until Prime.

>>323934687
OtherM's problem was everything

>>323935061
I think he means weapons as keys to advance

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>>323931237
Just fuck my shit up.

>>323935302
"Green door requires super missile" is not a puzzle. By any stretch of the imagination.

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>>323935061

>>323934647
Hope you ain't implying that Splatoon was good, because it wasn't

>>323931639
This. Why have a cool armor with cool upgrades and shit if you can't see any of it in first person?

>>323931237
i'm gonna go with the first one to be honest

I want a metroid with good lore again and I already like mindless shooters

>>323935061
There were puzzles, although they were subtly integrated into the world design. Some examples would be when you have to bomb the glass tube or when you have to run along noob bridge. Even just figuring out where to go next could arguably be considered a puzzle. Puzzles aren't just riddles or mini-games, they just have to be "a problem designed to test ingenuity or knowledge".

>played metroid prime 1
>in love, get all 3
>decide to play metroid for NES
>felt boring but though it was natural since it's an old game
>play super metroid
>music and pacing putting me to sleep and no story behind the place
>turned off after a whil

Guess you cant please everyone .3D for me

The 3D FPS, not for the god-tier story but because a subpar story ruins a game far more than good gameplay does.

>>323935514
That's not a puzzle you dumb shit.
That's a cleverly disguised yellow door.
God millenials really did need to have their hand held.

>>323931237
>3D FPS with good gameplay but god-tier story
>2D traditional with god-tier gameplay but a subpar story that gets heavy-handed towards the end
Wow, we lose in both cases.

>>323935515
Splatoon was, in your words, "a new IP worth a shit that can captivate people the way its older IPs did", whatever your personal opinion of it is literally doesn't matter.

>>323935589
>bomb the glass tube

Not a puzzle. Hell they show you how to do it if you let the start screen go a while.

>run along noob bridge
>using Dash is a puzzle

>>323935759
I'm not the guy that posted that. But anyway

>Splatoon
>Worth a shit

Nope.

>>323934994
Because Fps nixes some Samus's signature powers like Speed booster shenanigans and screw attack as well as limit her new powers to just beam stuff

>>323935970
First person doesn't nix screw attack. Screw attack was in Prime 2 and 3.

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>>323935634
I guess this isn't a puzzle either. God, gamers are retarded

>>323935798
It requires knowledge of the dash button. So it is, by definition, a puzzle.

Although it's not like early 2D Zelda games had many puzzles either. The first game almost entirely consisted of pushing the right block. Puzzles didn't really become a huge part of Zelda until OoT.

>>323936205
You're absolutely retarded if you think "glass tube" was a puzzle when the game shows you exactly how to break it in the demo at the beginning.

>>323936336
>It requires knowledge of the dash button
>its a puzzle because it requires you know "press A to dash" exists

Do you work for Riot Games?

>>323936205
>opening a door is a puzzle

>>323936336
I guess jumping on the first goomba in SMB1 is a puzzle as well.

>>323936338
So a puzzle isn't a puzzle if you know how to do it?

>>323936197
I never played those two yet but i can see it being much more appectable and useful in third person. It doesn't seem like it's useful for first person

>>323931237
>>2D traditional with god-tier gameplay but a subpar story that gets heavy-handed towards the end
So basically, Super Metroid.

Gimme more Super Metroid.

>>323936714
Its not a puzzle if you're given the solution long before finding the place where it happens.

>>323935970
The speed-booster simply cannot work in a 3D Metroid game. It works in the 2D games since you have total awareness of both planes. So you'd be able to move through a relatively complex level at a high speed. With 3D, you're limited to a field-of-view. So the only way you can move really fast is if the level is fairly barren and open (which is pretty much the exact opposite of what a Metroid game should be). Also shine-sparking is another issue. With 2D, you're limited to 5 directions and it's easy to design areas around this. With 3D, it's very difficult to do this.

Other M had the speed booster and it was pretty shit.

>>323936865
So jigsaw puzzles aren't puzzles because you can see the finished product on the box?

And all manner of traditional puzzles aren't puzzles because they've been done millions of times before and everyone knows how to do them?

>>323936478
>>323936573
Puzzles don't have to be hard, it's a very broad term. Why are you so offended by this?

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I'd rather choose
>3D TPS that translates 2D traditional's gameplay/exploration seamlessly and a god-tier story

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>>323936338
You should try using your brain before you post
>>323936568
By that logic Prime had no puzzles either because most of them resulted in opening a door or getting an item

>>323935970
>>323936980
It can work in 3D but only with gimped speed or with huge levels.

how upset would you be if in FF, the soldiers' objective of the game is to rescue Samus?

>>323936980
>Other M had the speed booster and it was pretty shit.

Everything was pretty shit in Other M tho. Even simple shit like "shooting a missile" was shit.

>>323937087
There's a large difference between traditional puzzles and puzzles in vidya. There are no puzzles in Metroid before Prime.

>>323936980
Other M is a shitty example because it's usually fixed camera and controlled with the d-pad.

There's no problem with going fast in a 3D game. If anything, it opens up way more possibilities. Just look at all the games coming out with first person parkour shit, dashes, boost jumps, and blink abilities. All of that could directly translate into a model for speed booster and shinespark.

>>323937232
I wouldn't be upset. I'd be too busy laughing at tumblr's outrage.

>>323937253
What's the difference? At the very least, puzzles in vidya haven't literally been done millions of times before.

>>323937253
Just goes to show that shooting a missile doesn't work in third person
:^)

>>323937173
You're being really liberal with the term "puzzle". By your logic, if bombing the glass tube or opening a color-coded door in Prime are "puzzles" then so are those baby toys when you hammer the shaped block through their corresponding slots. Or that picking the appropriate key from your keychain to open the door to your house is a "puzzle."

>>323937217

or if you had m+kb. The only problem with it in 3d is that you can't quickly look around to make on the fly adjustments

>>323937557
Those baby toys are literally baby puzzles.

>>323937340
Fast movement is fine if you're in a large, open space. But Metroid has always been about exploring cramped but dense environments.

>>323937661
And look at that! Only babbies call them puzzles. Everyone else calls it a door.

>>323937754
>literal baby puzzle is a door

But I don't think babies call them anything.

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>>323931639
Pretty much.

Give me Metroid Blast with a serious story please.
This shit was ridiculously fun.

>>323937557
They are puzzles though. Even me pulling my trousers down before I take a shit is a puzzle. Again, the definition is very broad. You have puzzles that pretty much require no effort and you have puzzles that are extremely difficult.

>>323937971
>taking a shit is a puzzle

Kay. I'm done here. Gonna play some Super Metroid Redesign.

>>323936980
Well if you have it work like it suppose to in the 2-D games yeah that won't work. If you make it something you can trigger instead of have a certain distance to run before it happens, like (press "_" while moving to activate) then that would work better.

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>>323935897
>new ip on a dead console moving over 2 million units
>not worth a shit

>>323938120

Should I play Redesign or the Axeil version? I've played Project Base and Metroid Super Zeromission. I plan to play Hyper Metroid next and then one of the two versions of Redesign. Furthermore, do you recommend any other hacks?

>>323937232
Pretty pissed but to be totally honest I don't expect much from Nintendo anymore.

>>323931237

>2D traditional with god-tier gameplay but a subpar story that gets heavy-handed towards the end

So what you're saying is, it isn't a traditional Metroid at all. Story was never a part of these.

>>323938292
I did not know there were multiple versions of Redesign.
That aside Redesign is Super Metroid as it should be played.

>>323931237
I'll take the FPS.

There's plenty of 2D platforming shooty nonsense around these days and honestly, if I just wanted good gameplay I'd go back and play one of the classics, so give me some immersion and story on top of good gameplay.

>>323937557
I think I'm being pretty literal with the term puzzle. Nobody said that opening a colored door was a puzzle (Maybe that not-smart guy did facetiously), but to say Metroid didn't have puzzles prior to Prime is pretty silly. They clearly put things in to make the player think and figure things out, like how to kill Metroids, or the acid maze in Metroid II. Unless your definition of puzzles in video games has to include the word 'scanning,' then it's pretty dumb to say 2D metroid was void of puzzles

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Why isn't anybody talking about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkPJpOeRwPk

It's a Metroid hack similar to Legend of Link. Coming out soon.

>>323938639
>like how to kill Metroids

Not a puzzle. RTFM.

>or the acid maze in Metroid II

A barrier is not a puzzle. Especially when you already know that the acid lowers after killing the metroids in the layer you're on.

>>323935897
Here's your (you).
Do you people come to this board in order to just shitpost? What do you get from it? Don't you have something else to do? Study for your exams, work, or do some sports to keep you fit? Seriously, I don't understand the majority of people on /v/ here.
Instead of senseless shitposting, nobody cares for anyway, you could use your time productively. Or you know, you could actually TALK ABOUT VIDYA, on a vidya board.

I don't care about anything you said but another Prime game or a Super Metroid in third person would be great

2D

metroid isn't about story, the best story in metroid is super because it has an established intro cutscene and the rest of the game's story is shown through gameplay until the ending cutscene

this is also why the 3D metroid are great too, boss cutscenes aside the story is in logs which are optional to the player

>>323937717
I disagree. There have been plenty of large open spaces in Metroid. Hell, the first game is nothing but long hallways and vertical shafts because of the way scrolling worked.

Besides, the speed booster and shinespark are just situational tools like anythjng else, unless you're speedrunning. The levels are designed around the tools, not the other way around.

>>323931639
I want this so hard.

>third-person, zoomed out camera while you're platforming
>OTS while you're aiming
>speedier, more agile gameplay so you're boosting around and shit
>walljumping, etc.
>slick as fuck armors as you can see how cool you look all the time

>>323938639
>>323938928

The argument you two are having is based solely on semantics. The original point was that Prime has a gameplay style wholly unlike that of the 2D Metroids because Prime added a lot of Zelda-like elements to Metroid which I don't think is up for debate.

>>323931639
I wouldn't mind another other M style game if they fix the issues in other M

D-pad only movement in a 3D action game was mad retarded

>>323939262
So, basically, the Metroid Blast control scheme.

>>323938928
>Not a puzzle. RTFM.
You can find solutions to puzzles in Prime by reading the scan logs, therefore not puzzles.

>Especially when you already know that the acid lowers after killing the metroids in the layer you're on.
Does everybody read a FAQ/walkthrough before they play a game? I don't get it

>>323938913

I'm waiting eagerly, but it's hard to talk about when it has such a horrid fanfiction plot.

>>323939404
Except on a traditional gamepad and without convoluted controls.

That game was fun though.

>>323939353

Other M's core gameplay could work really well on the Wii U actually.

>>323939610
Literally retarded. Stop playing vidya now.

>>323935061
every metroid game has puzzles except they're integrated into exploration

they also arn't as big of a focus as zelda

>>323939734
Follow the thread faggot.

>>323939890
Im not reading autistic spiel, I just contributed to a correct a false statement

>>323940037
If you had read the thread you'd know that I was correct and there are no puzzles in metroid before prime.

>>323931237
Neither

I want another 2d platformer with god-tier gameplay and tell its story through the enviroment and exploration.

You know, like Super Metroid.

>>323940107
then in that case your interpretation of a puzzle is wrong

the original metroid had freezing enemies to proceed, that's constitutes as a puzzle as it requires a logical use of the toll you have an you can go wave instead and not be able to do that

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trash Metroid, fund XCX 2

a better game overall people

>>323940371
Yeah, don't bother, he's pretty set in his delusional convictions

>>323940371
Using an upgrade to progress past a point that required said upgrade is NOT A PUZZLE HOLY FUCK.

>>323935248
specifically shitting on the character to the point where Tomb Raider's reboot looks better, support characters who are literally irrelevant to the plot, a commanding officer that's an active hindrance and you never acknowledge he's fucking you over, just sucking his dick. Ridley gets downgraded to a fucking furby for half the game for fucks sake.

>>323940550
so by your definition zelda doesn't have puzzles

you are correct in saying if it's just an upgrade used to proceed, it's not a puzzle I.E. the different colored doors in super.

But if there is either logical reasoning needed, a choice in tools, or both it's a puzzle

just because it's easy doesn't mean it's not a puzzle, otherwise zelda wouldn't have puzzles since LttP

>>323940550
Look up the definition of "puzzle". It's a lot more general than you think.

>>323931237
The latter.

>>323940940
So mention a "puzzle" in Metroid before Prime and I'll tell you why its not a puzzle.

>>323938934
They're from reddit. Reddit comes here to use /v/ as their own personal toilet when they want to shitpost but don't want to get downboated.

>>323941072
Why don't you mention a puzzle in Zelda before OoT?

>>323941072
Why don't you mention a puzzle in Prime that follows your definition of what a puzzle is? Remember, the game can't tell you about it, you can't use an upgrade, and it can't involve a door

>>323941302
Link to the past. Hitting the stakes in the right order in order to open Dungeon 7 in the Dark World.
Actually a puzzle.

>>323941072
I already did, needing to freeze the enemies to climb to a new area

in addition to this, many shinespark missle/energy upgrades constitute as puzzles

the entire mother brain fight is just a puzzle that can hurt you

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>>323931237
Gameplay long as it isn't this.

>>323941467
>the entire mother brain fight is just a puzzle that can hurt you
>shooting a monster in the face is a puzzle

Kay. Back to Super Metroid Redesign for me. Fuck ya'll retarded niggers.

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>>323931237
both can work if is made by a western dev

>>323941562
the story isn't even the worst part of other M, while it was shitty and cut into gameplay too much, I would forgive other M if the gameplay was good. But it's not, no exploration, too easy with health regen, fucking dpad for a 3d game, etc.

>>323941619
enjoy the puzzles

>>323941562
Call me crazy, but I would rather have good gameplay than great gameplay with Adam, the evil space gubmint, hivemind space pirates, and the rest of Sakamoto's retardation tacked onto the deal.

That stuff hurts my enjoyment so much.

>>323941457
>>323940550
>Using an upgrade to progress past a point that required said upgrade is NOT A PUZZLE HOLY FUCK.
I'm seeing some contradictions here

>>323941864
>both can work if tanaba directs it instead of sakamoto

fixed

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how is metroid supposed to advance when there has been so many changes to the action shooter adventure genre?

and how can its stand out as a shooter without normalfags calling it a lame halo clone

>>323940495
Hello out of the loop anon, Monolith is already working on the next game.
No need to compete.

>>323941457
you use the hammer, an upgrade, to proceed with some logical input

that's exactly what you do with freezing the enemies to proceed in metroid/super metroid

nice job proving yourself wrong

>>323940495
fuck you fag

metroid and the xeno-rpgs are my favorite series, let me have both

>>323941913
Don't, sure it's the /v/ opinion that gameplay ALWAYS trumps story and you can write the room but as long as it has good gameplay it's fine

But bad story and VA work can seriously taint the experience of a game, if it's not even charmingly bad.

>>323942110
>and how can its stand out as a shooter without normalfags calling it a lame halo clone
Only trolls and people who never played the game called it that. Aside from the fact that it's a FPS in space, there's very little similarities between the two.

>>323931237
God-tier 2D gameplay

2D, please. I understand that Super Metroid is hard to beat, but I think there's more that can be done with the 2D design model. Zero Mission was good but not exactly ambitious (and everything after the Mother Brain battle was pointless).

I don't care about the story. Samus herself is basically a non-character aside from ZSS being waifu-bait dullness. So long as the game maintains the gameplay and sense of isolation I'm alright with it.

>>323942363
>>323942189
there is a reason why Xenoblade has a new console game while they continue to make That metriod spinoff most people seem to not want at all

>>323942601
>FPS in space
that is as far as their perception goes, as well journalist

>>323942720
>I understand that Super Metroid is hard to beat

wut?

>>323934647
Everyone will forget this shit in a few months, its nowhere near to what Metroid or Zelda were

>>323931237
What the fuck is a Metroid with a good story anyway?
Have you ever even played Metroid?

I don't give a fuck about story.

>>323942786
Monolith has nothing to do with metroid

>>323942720
>super metroid is hard to beat

I'd say prime and especially prime 2 are harder than super metroid to beat

>>323942928
but nintendo funds these games

they'll give more money to monolith then their own metroid team

>>323941619
Please define puzzle for me. New to the thread, genuinely curious

>>323942815
>>323942973
Hard to beat as in hard to top, not hard to complete.

>>323942821

It is important to know what samus is genociding and why she's doing it

>>323942821
prime games (less so prime 3)

have fantastic lore that's integrated into the main story but its all optional and doesn't impede on gameplay

>>323943073
But its not hard to beat. A fucking ROM HACK of super metroid is better than super metroid.

>>323942786
Monolith can literally do whatever the fuck they want as long as the game doesn't use a first party IP and it's on a Nintendo console.

>>323943073
oh I see

yeah super metroid is probably the best we'll get with 2D metroid or 2D action adventure in general, it's such a complete game

>>323942821
Prime had a really fun setting and ideas.

If you've ever enjoyed TUUUUUUUUUUBES, that was all from Prime's goofy lore.

>>323939353
Why do children hate superior D-pad movement?

>>323943224

rom hacks and mods are often better than their source

Metroid needs
-fun bosses
-cool areas/music
-enjoyable platforming and puzzles
-unique and powerful weapons
-samus
It doesnt need
-dialoge
- story
It shouldnt have
-overbearing and almost literal themes and metaphors
-qt events
-authorization
-overdone cutscenes

B is clearly the superior choice as a great 2d metroid is better than a decent 3d metroid. However this is all mental masturbation as metroid is dead

>>323943402
Well if you want a separate game, Strider (2014) was a better Metroid game that Super Metroid.

>>323943224
Not true, unless they're literally just adding more on top of the base game, in which case it's objectively better. That's not really fair though.

>>323943038
Monolith wanted to make a console game and because of their good relationship Nintendo funded it. Next Level Games wanted to make a baby robot soccer mobile game and Nintendo thought that a Metroid paint job would make them money so they funded that. There is no central Metroid team that they're neglecting and they're two completely separate issues. It's like asking why EA is funding Mirror's Edge 2 but made a Mass Effect mobile game.

>>323933554
>Federation Force is the FE:A of Metroid
Won't be long before we get the weeb trash idol game.

>>323942786
The reason they're not making a new Metroid game is because no-one at Nintendo has any good ideas for one. Meanwhile, Xenoblade has a director with plenty of ideas for the series. Tanabe has ideas for the Prime series, although the only studio he works with that is big enough to make a proper Metroid game is Retro Studios (and they wanted to make Tropical Freeze after they finished DKCR).

It's not about Nintendo spiting fans (like some Metroid fans think), it's about Nintendo not having a clue what to do with the series. It's the same situation with F-Zero. During the N64 era, Nintendo had no idea how to make a 3D Metroid game so they approached third-party developers. Everyone rejected them because they felt they couldn't live up to the standards set by Super Metroid. I assume something similar is happening now, so no-one else wants to make a Metroid game. Even with F-Zero, Nintendo approached the Burnout developers but they rejected them.

>>323943523
The hack i'm referring to is Redesign which is immensely better than Super Metroid vanilla.
Redesign is how Super Metroid SHOULD be.

>>323943697
Actually the reason they aren't making a new Metroid game is because Japan does not like Metroid.

>>323943479
>Metroid needs
>samus
Does it really though? She's an iconic character and a neat design but I don't think it really "needs" her. There's not much to her. And every time the series has tried to add more to her it ends with mixed results because an involved narrative is something that's somewhat at odds with Metroid's appeal.

Get some other goon in a suit and not much changes.

Other M had a good idea with mixing first person with third person. It just didn't work, since you couldn't move.

Devil's Third did it pretty well. It's always a smooth transition.

Personally, I think a Metroid with a slight horror feel might be nice. Get Tango Gameworks to make it if they could.

>>323943697
no one wants to make a metroid reskin of games that have already done that type of game better

why would nintendo need a new shooter type metroid when they have splatoon?

why would they need to make anew racer when they have Mario kart?

>>323943869
But feminists and waifu fags are dug in deep with this series. They won't allow such a thing without causing a massive bitch fit . Metroid is stuck with her and they can't do anything to try to improve her character thanks to how attached activists are

>>323944489
>They won't allow such a thing without causing a massive bitch fit

You apparently aren't aware that feminists and waifu fags will literally throw a bitch fit no matter what happens. And its because they don't care. They just want to be noticed.

>>323944489
>they can't do anything to try to improve her character
Sure they can. Fusion and the Prime games did a little bit to flesh her out but MoM was an abortion of an attempt to "improve her" and pretending otherwise is foolish

>>323944808
Gave her that cute short hair. That's about it.

>>323944489
I'm not saying she NEEDS improving. I think she's fine the way she is. I'm just saying I don't think Samus herself is that vital to the series. Replace her with one of the guys from Hunters and it wouldn't fundamentally alter the experience. If anything it might be a nice breath of fresh air--it could incentivize the series to experiment with new mechanics/upgrades (not that they couldn't do that with Samus, too).

>>323943509
(You)

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>>323944936
desu samus' crazy anime ponytail is pretty iconic at this point

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE

>>323943869
I'm actually open to Hunters' approach of multiple types of power suits + alien races to choose from. Granted the game's context can suit it well enough.

>>323944808
>Fusion

Fusion was a good step at giving her an identity, but majority of Metroid's fan base shits on her narratives and thought her taking orders from the AI with the name of a man SHE NAMED, was her being forced to conform to the Male influence and order structure. Fusion pretty much has the best story, yet everyone says Super has a far better one

>>323944936
Short hair sucks on women the mole is cool though cause I have one in the same position

>>323945230
My point was that those groups won't even allow that fresh breath of air

>>323945923
Moles in that position are shit on men

>>323931237
>>2D traditional with god-tier gameplay but a subpar story that gets heavy-handed towards the end


Or just like Super did.

There's literally no story aside from the introduction where Samus logs Metroid 2, the larvae getting stolen by Ridley, and you needing to fight them all again in order to find it.

Less story than fucking Wario World and it's still one of the best games ever made.

>>323946063
Please. You act like it was just waifufags and feminists who make a fuss about the latest Metroid games. Everyone hates them because MoM did a shitty job at everything it attempted and a shitty eshop soccer game isn't what anyone wanted as the next big thing for the series

>>323946160
Oh well

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>>323931237
Option 2 would literally be Other M 2
Is that what you want /v/

>>323946179
>saving the animals
>baby metroid interaction with samus
>zebes blowing up

the entire story is at the beginning and the end, it never impedes gameplay and tells a complete story. It's great

Other than thus is the crashed ship but the story is told through enviornment not cutscenes

>>323946564
Metroid other m without its design flaws and with exploration would be great though

>>323946749
No it wouldn't. It would still have the same shitty story.

>>323935634
>millennials
Anyone who ISN'T a millennial is too old for this website, go to bed gramps

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>>323944936

>>323946876
Anon, I'm 36. and you'll be here then, too

>>323943719
Ah, I have to disagree on that front. The game felt wrong when I played it, even though I did appreciate some of the changes.

>>323946876
I'm 35. Fuck off.

>too old for this website

Its like you think you won't be here at my age.

>>323943885
>horror Metroid

Enough of this bad idea.

>>323947037
>The game felt wrong when I played it

It felt so very right for me. Better physics, actually having to use the tricks the animals teach you, etc.
Everything about Redesign was so much better than SM vanilla.

>>323946440
So would you be ok if they tried to make a new Metroid series with a new MC that still plays like any one of the good Metroid games before.

>>323947243
Not him, but I don't give a fuck about the MC. That's why I hold that Strider (2014) is a better metroid game than Super Metroid.
Its too bad no one fucking played it cause it never got a physical release or advertising.

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>>323947114
whew lads

>>323943401
>3d enviornment
>d-pad

nice b8 (not really)

>>323947243
Yeah. I would prefer Samus be playable simply because she's synonymous with the series but I'd still probably buy it

>>323941072

The Ice Missile puzzle with the green/purple pillar and the speed booster in Fusion

>>323931237
3D FPS, we've has so many 2D indie metroid clones come out in the past few years I'm not sure if a slightly better one would be too exciting.

>>323947223
I dislike your attitude assertion, and some of what you said is debatable as the physics actually fight you throughout it, but the design was better due to being quite a bit more linear and a lot more challenging than the original game.
My main problem is you saying that say that's what the game should have been, even when there's different intent from the creators and whatnot.

>>323931967
Axiom Verge filled that void quite well. Honestly. I'd rather have a new Prime with solid graphics.

>>323934978
This is horseshit. Fucking Zelda 2 was primarily a sidescroller and nobody has ever compared that to Metroid.

>>323947446
I played it but it wasn't as good as Strider 2.

>>323947207
Why would that be bad. Fusion was proof horror adds a great element to the game

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>>323942819
It's been out for almost a year and it still gets talked about. For a shooter game of any kind that is unheard of. Hell, I remember this exact post from when the game first came out.

>>323949032
There was no horror in Fusion just a sense of isolation in a hostile environment, which is what all Metroids have anyway. The SA-X never actively pursued you, it was all scripted. Plus you still easily destroy everything you meet.

>>323949523

>The SA-X never actively pursued you, it was all scripted
That said, the second TRO encounter was terrifying the first time.

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I came in and got excited to talk metroid and all you faggots want a third person game??!?!

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>WiiU doesn't have a metroid game
>nintendo fans need to play pretend on an imageboard instead

this is fucking hilarious

>>323949165
>a Nintendo game getting talked about on /v/ is remarkable
>a Nintendo game that gets released on a console that games 2 games a year is remarkable
>people talking about multiplayer shooters for nearly a year is remarkable when they come out annually

Just stop, anon. Anyone who has played multiplayer shooters knows that Splatoon is okay at best. Stop pretending its a landmark game.

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>>323950051
s-shut up

>>323938203
It has hit at least 3 mil by now.

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How would you feel if Nintendo made Samus look more like a kawaii anime waifu in-game?

>>323943885
>It just didn't work, since you couldn't move.
You couldn't move in first person in OoT either. The reason why it fails on Other M is because first person is the only way to use missiles. If they had done what they did in Fusion and had the B button switch to your missiles it would have been fine.

>>323949523
No other Metroid gave you the sense of a hostile environment more than Fusion. It's the only game were Samus is put in such dire situations and is put against such a terrifying threat with there adapting, learning speed, and hive mind. Fusion's atmosphere was perfect and would have be even better if you remaster it and emphasize on those tones.

>>323950913
Fuck off.

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>>323950060
>a Nintendo game getting talked about on /v/ is remarkable

Yes, because people are still talking about tropical freeze, right? You're trying to move the goalposts so fucking hard it's actually hilarious.

>>323951264
Look you can say all those things about the X, but none of that is reflected in gameplay. Fusion fails where Prime succeeds: they tell, and don't show. The X are still just dumb monsters to shoot. That's it.

>>323952072
Not him but I thought Fusion was all kinds of difficult when I played it which kinda does reflect a hostile atmosphere
And I didn't like it because of that

>>323952268
I didn't have any trouble with it, but I never did a low percent run either.

The first option. I like both styles, and while I wouldn't mind a subpar story, a heavy handed one that holds you down and pukes it into your mouth a la fusion is something I just can't abide.

>>323952072
But they do show. Even though it's all in the story it's still shows

>>323951648
Tropical Freeze is a single player game and theres still threads about it all the time because its one of the best games the Wii U has. Try again.

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At this point, I just want a fucking main Metroid game thats not shit/mediocre/a spinoff