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Finally getting around to playing Dark Souls for the first time.

Any recommendations or suggestions on what to do/how to build for the first time through?
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Avoid using magic/faith/pyromancy for your first play-through. They can trivialize many encounters, and most of the fun of the game comes from the melee mechanics.

Don't invest in resistance.
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kill the dogs first
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Keep your equip load under 50%
Learn to dodgeroll.

You win.
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>>323922105
>get drakeword by sniping the dragon's tail

Congrats. You just beat Dark Souls.
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level up resistance, best thing to level.
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>>323922105
*No Master Key/Thief starter class
*If you punch and aggro friendly NPCs go to the church and the guy there can fix it if you pay
*Get off the internet unless you're really stuck
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Turn on cheats for new londo from the start to ng+7
It is the worst area in history of level design, everything is shit about it down to the boss (which is just a DPS race)
Youre not missing out, just dl a trainer for new londo, im not sure what those tards were thinking with what they made
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If it bleeds, you can kill it.
Find a weapon you like and upgrade it to your character
The drake sword will slow you down
Learn to roll
More Stamina is good
Dont put points into resistance ever
Kill the dogs first
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>>323922105
don't pull the lever

wait wrong game
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>>323922967
This is the most casual comment of the year.
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when people say "kill the dogs first", are they talking about Capra demon??
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>>323923317
yes

and any other dog related encounter
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ignore the drake sword is bad memers it's good enough to get you past the first couple of bosses whilst you save up resources to upgrade a bastard sword.
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the same thing people tell you every time you make this thread

enemies have no tracking, so you just strafe to the enemies backside, raise your shield right before the enemy attacks and lowering it right after the attack for maximum stamina management, then hit them in the backside

thats 95% of the enemies in the game
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>>323922967
I just enable quicksaving. Game's a lot better that way. Less bullshit.
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>>323923317
Yes. Better yet, run for the arc over on the stairs, hide in the corner and block. Wait for the demon to fall down, then attack him like you did with the first two bosses.
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kill dogs XD
git gud :DDD
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>>323923398
Drake Sword is good, but upgrading it is a slog, Better to find a weapon when it starts hitting that point of uselessness.
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>>323923315
dont listen to these retards OP there is nothing to be found in new londo, maybe when you drain it and pass the ghosts you can continue normally with the other enemies
Ofc retards like this guy think theyre le so good because they memorized their little spawn and speed run patterns, just skip the shit
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Grab the Claymore early on and upgrade that shit to +15.

Can carry you al the way through NG+
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>>323923429
>then attack him like you did with the first two bosses.
>Implying everyone didnt cheese the shit out of the Taurus with the falling attack
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>>323923583
>Skip the most gorgeous area of the game because you got raped by two black dudes
Literally git gud
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>>323922105
Class difficulty (for noobs) from easiest to hardest
cleric, Pyromancer, deprived, Knight, bandit, warrior, sorcerer, wanderer, thief. Im not sure where the hunter fits in. some place before warrior though i would think.
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>>323923739
literally stop memein tard
im talking about the ghosts, dont pretend there is any skill involved with 10 ghosts charging you
literally 2 options:
trigger the trap and run back, exploit dumb AI max aggro range to kill 1 by 1
or
memorize hardcore speedrun tactics for going trough the place quickly

The niggers on the bottom are actually fun
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>>323923739
i think hes a casual little bitch but new londo looks like shit

>>323924131
or you could just aggro them all and just hit them all at the same time/kill them before they group too hard
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>>323922967
fuck off 4kings anon the dark souls general needs you back
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Follow this for your first playthrough
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Invest in magic/miracles just for the weapon buffs. Lightning weapon will annihilate most bosses/PVP

If not carry around as much of the fire resin as you can.
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>>323924251
>or you could just aggro them all and just hit them all at the same time/kill them before they group too hard
magic shitter detected, ignore the fucks OP just skip it with a trainer, these tards are pretending hard, they just memorized the shitty level (like everyone must for new fuckdo ghosts)
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>>323923423
>I just enable quicksaving
wtf how?
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>>323924412
ayy lets go
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>>323923317
Yea. It's such a weird piece of advice because obviously you have to kill the dogs if you want to damage Capra Demon without getting hit by them.

I think it's just a meme to say.
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>>323924628
i dont use magic in dark souls, the game is easy enough and the magic is lame as fuck in that game
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>>323924628
>>323924889
magic is fun mode

you just destroy everything
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>>323924412
I need to play DS1 again. Rolling.
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>>323924412
rollan
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>>323924412
haha

roll

get it

because you roll
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>>323925280
Ok rolling again. Crossbows suck ass.
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Don't open it
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>>323925110
>swirly swirly stick above head
>le magic misl that slightly homes in
Haha, i had so much fun
not really
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>>323924412
rolling
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>>323924412
rl
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>>323924412
roll
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>>323922105
Just enjoy in discovery, every person has his way of playing, way he enjoys the most(someone finds himself as swordnboard, someone likes to roll,dodge, someone likes two-handers or spears, or mixture).
Game will actually give you every type of weapon so you will see what you like the most(halberd,mace,axe,sword,bow,magic etc).

Honestly, if you are gonna ask a lot of questions about how to play this game on internet, you will considerably ruin your experience, it doesn't matter if you ruin your first build, its all part of the game.

Everyone has different opinion about how to play this game, make your own, its important part of the game.
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>>323925419
its fun if you play it after you play a class that is harder. My first run I did an agility class and the game was a struggle especially vs armored bosses. My next playthrough was a great axe playthrough and i just destroyed everything effortlessly abusing its moveset to basically trivialize 90% of the enemies, i remember i stunnlocked quelogg to death, felt so satisfying compared to having to prance around like a faggot dodging all her shit and chipping away at her health little by little.
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>>323924060
nigger warrior is easy it has a shield that not only is better for parrys but has 100% damage resist and has a long sword which has a extremely versitle move set. I had an easier time as a warrior than a pyromancer.
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>>323923636
>first encounter with the Taurus
>thought I had to spin to win
>he makes me fall from the cliff
>he then falls from the cliff
>I died but also he
>didn't get anything
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>>323924412
323 rolling
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>>323922925
About rule # 11. there is a part of graveyard you can stand and those enemies that chase you will just fall, you can kite even big ones(i managed to aggro 7 at once), its a nice cheese way of getting some souls at the beginning of the game(and one nice advanced weapon)
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>>323922686

does armor really do anything?
what is the actual damage reduction?

armor is just a meme, right?
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>>323926071
yeah but i said for noobs. noobs probably wont be good enough to use the long sword to its potential. the pyromancers axe is simple to use and is better at bashing on shields.

For pve you dont need a weapon with a wide moveset for every situation, just something that does high poise/stability damage. thats one reason why i put the classes with the maces/axes at the easier end of the spectrum.
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>>323926570

just one of the many talentless hack-mechanics of miazaki uguu~~
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>>323924412
Roll
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>>323926570
yes it does help a little, its more noticeable if you upgrade it. but upgrading weapons > upgrading shield> upgrading stats, and you only upgrade your armor when you are already at the level you want or you want to burn extra souls you dont need at the time.
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>tfw you want to join the dragon covenant and run the the game with nothing but dragon chops
>tfw you'll never get enough dragon scales for the full body dragon transformation

life is suffering
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>>323924412
f
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>>323927672
Keep working at it Anon. It's very much worth it
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>>323928378
I'll be grinding for hours...

Do you know if punches at least scale with strength?
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>>323924412
rowl
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>>323928378
Bring Back The Dragonoid!
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>>323927536

no, you are full of shit
upgraded armor does nothing

i asked you about the actual damage reduction
why do idiots always try to hide these numbers?

the most strongest heaviest armor fully upgraded only gives you the ability to withstand 1 extra hit

armor is literally just added because its one of those jap cosmetic things.
your character is like a doll and you are tending the miniature rock garden which is philosophically represented by the stale combat and bland gameworld
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>>323922105
Anyone else really burnt out on Souls games?
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>>323928548
I don't think it scales, but you do about 400 AR with hands
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>>323924412
Is this the easiest way to get (You)s?
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>>323929002
>[source: my hairy ass]
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>>323929094
no, but I skipped 2
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>>323929094
I think thats one of the reasons ds2 was so hated, some legitimately hated it. others were just too burnt out from DS1 and demon souls
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>>323922967
How does one be that bad at video games
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>>323924412
r
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On your second playthrough, do a Dex Faith build with Sunlight Blade or Darkmoon Blade and a fast weapon and you can kill every boss in literally 10 seconds.
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>>323929136
>400 AR

I've beaten DeS, DaS1, and Bloodborne but I've never heard of this. Dragonoids seem so cool though. Shame their kicks don't do damage.
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>>323922105
My suggestion is to play games blind instead of asking /v/ to help you before you even start the game. Enjoy being drained out in no time since you're being handheld.
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>>323929807
It's worth just for dem dragon hips alone.

But the high fist damage, fire breath and force explosion are a very nice plus.

I've run a few dragon characters so far Only earned it once, after that just used CE to give me the body for normal runs
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>>323922910

honestly
you would think this stat was added as an obvious bad choice to give diversity to some basic stat mechanics

but the reality actually is some dumb motherfucker just didnt know any better.
if you really think about how stupid adding such a thing like this really is, you will finally understand how stupid you are for enjoying such an overrated game.
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>>323930345
Shit dude relax
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>>323922967
>not parrying the fuck out off all the darkwraiths
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>>323930508

eat shit

faggot bitch
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>>323922105
>roll is better than block
>any weapon that doesn't suck is fully viable
>deprived isn't hard
>unless you know what you're doing stay away from the painting
>kill the dogs first
>kill the spear dude first
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>>323930846
R-rude...
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>feel like playing DS1 again
>can't get my controller working for the PC version
Well this sucks.
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>>323930106
i don't have cheats but I guess if I do a few duels with a friend and then get the scales off of him, maybe it won't be so bad?

so during a dragon chop-only run, you only level up vit and end? strength is worthless?
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>>323922105
Play deprived and do a naked club run. Armor is for faggots!
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>>323931019
I'd say yeah.

What you'll be doing most is rolling a lot, as you'll have zero defenses

You are naked as a dragon
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>>323922105
I'm late in saying this, but the fun for me came from failing hard and figuring stuff out by myself by experimenting
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>>323931502
huh, hopefully I get a strength boost with just the head piece? seems like a fun but challenging run, that dragon-punch only run.
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>>323930962
PS4Windows
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>>323924412
Roll
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>>323922105
Choose the master key as your gift every playthrough.
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get good
familia get goooooooddddddd GET
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>323929094
no but i only played DaS and BB
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First playthrough is just plain horrible without a laptop on hand, so you have some clue what the fuck everything does.
Second playthrough is enjoyable as fuck.
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>>323929094
That's when it's time to play other games until you feel your Dark Souls itch come back
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>>323932332

damn nigga
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>>323932459
Don't listen to this guy OP, people would seriously kill to play Dark Souls for the first time again
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>>323931928
You mean DS4Windows?
I've tried that and it doesn't recognize any of my inputs when I'm playing the game.
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>>323932897
>settings
>hide ds4 controller
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>>323933113
Can't believe I didn't try that. Thanks, anon.
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>>323924412
Why not. Rolling.
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>>323933275
np

google is your friend for future problems
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>>323922925

This image is pretty good OP, but like anon said:

>Don't pick the master key for your first playthrough

And something that would have helped me a lot to know early:

>If you're not sure where to go next, check your keys menu and read the description of any keys you've recently picked up.
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>>323924412
rolando
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>>323934715

And by 'this image', I meant the image in the post I was replying to, if that wasn't obvious.
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>>323924412
rawlin'
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>>323922925
>*No Master Key/Thief starter class
master key is super helpful for new players though. its worth getting if you can remember where you were before etc and dont mind getting to harder areas before you are "ready"

I guess it can cheapen the experience somewhat because you dont have to look for as many keys. But it also opens up more doors sooner which some players will enjoy. its a preference thing really. the "dont pick master key for first playthrough" thing is really just a /vg/ meme.
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i am now at these fuckers kicking my shit in, but putting that aside i heard you get different shit if you kill one of them last.
so who should it be?
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>>323936114
I don't remember getting anything different at all aside from their souls. Unless there was something else I missed.
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>>323935856
This. There's literally no reason why anyone shouldn't go with the master key. It's really the only gift that actually stays useful for the entirety of the game.
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>>323922105
Use shields with 100% physical defense and decent stability. Dodging/rolling is great as well, but shields like this can really save your ass.

I suggest keeping your equip load low so you can have the light roll and medium roll so you're more nimble and shit.

Upgrade your weapons with titanite. This is really important. Try to upgrade your favorite weapons as much as possible. In this game, almost all weapons are viable, so I always say to just use what you like the most. Then you just upgrade the shit out of it and it becomes great.
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So i accidentally used gods wrath in demons souls in the nexus now 4 npcs hate me what do
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>>323936210
Access to their armour.
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>>323922105
longsword, elite knight set
divine mace +5 for armoured enemies & FUCKING SKELLINGTONS
and pyromancy
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>SL1 run
>stuck at Biggie Smalls
I have no idea what to do. I have a +10 battle axe and a +13 or so flame with fire orb, fireball, and combustion. Havel's doesn't help. I know the only advice at this point is to git gud, I'm just venting my despair.
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Going along with my current D&D campaign I decided to start up as knight. Pretty fun so far, though I'm playing quite conservative so as not to die. Not quite as hard as I imagined, though the first boss did get me once when I was trying to dodge it.

It's important to keep your weigh under 50% of the max right? Is there any place to store equipment then? I've got a full set of armor, a sword, and a mace right now which weighs me down a bit much. Should I drop one of the weapons and focus on leveling Endurance at the moment?
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>>323938140
Anything you do not have equipped does not contribute to your equip load. Just unequip one of the weapons and it will stay in your inventory while freeing up weight. There is also a bottomless box you can buy from a couple merchants that allows you to store things at a bonfire in case your inventory becomes unwieldy, but it's not necessary, just convenient.
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>>323936114
You get the soul/armour of the guy you kill last. Killing Oreo last also gives you a ring.
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>>323929002
Okay buddy
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>>323929002
Not to say armor is super important, but the resistances they give you are.
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>>323936727
You have 2 options, kill them or restart.
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>>323937397
Just wait until you get to 4nigz.
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>>323931031
wear armor if you want but it's pretty much worthless
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>>323938691
ah well i was getting a bit bored of playing demon's anyways
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>>323938483
Ah, perfect, should have paid more attention to that. Thanks!
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Stack endurance
>Black iron knight armour no havel dodgerolls
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>>323930345
It seems 'obvious' at first that it would be the best stat to put points into, given that taking less damage would mean more hits per estus flask.
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>>323924412
Rollin
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>>323938824
>you came to the wrong neighbourhood, chosen one
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>>323922815
The real dark souls doesn't even begin until after Anor Londo which is the point at which the drake sword becomes obsolete.
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>>323933427
>dad, it's not a phase, this is who i really am
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>>323939397
It becomes obsolete after Kellogg's Frosted Flakes.
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>>323939397
It becomes obsolete in Sen's Fortress. I struggled longer in that place than I'd like to admit on my first two playthroughs cause of it.
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>>323938824
>mfw first gravelording
I had no idea what the FUCK was happening.
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>>323937023
I was so disappointed when I got ornstein's armour and the helmet didn't have the big red tassle on the end
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People keep avoiding how armor works for some reason.
First play though armor really matters if you have full havles or smorgs on you can take around 8-12 hits form a near endgame knight in light it's around 2-4.
That's a huge difference.
In ng+ full havles let's you tank 2-3 max this is when you go light medium armor because movement is better then armor.
Every thing works well till ng+ then all armor turns to paper.
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>>323939550
>tfw played DaS1 for 300+ hours and never got Gravelorded
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Is it bad that I'm relying so much on the black knight sword/silver knight spear during my first playthrough? I've tried other stuff, the halberd carried me through most of the early game and I've got a fire great scythe and titanite catch pole both at +5, but even with those and trying out some of the boss weapons, it feels underwhelming compared to the knight gear
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>>323940525
At that point it doesn't matter, you've cheesed your way through the tough part. You just got a (un)lucky drop, no need to feel shame.
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>>323939269
>>323939550
>>323939843
Gravelording is kinda fucked (at least on PC), but you can perma-gravelord your savefile with cheat engine, which is very entertaining for a playthrough.
I recommend also enabling aggro-AI.
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>>323940525
SKS is the most majestic of weapons in Dark Souls.
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>>323940870
I've heard the knight weapons aren't very good after the first run, once you get to ng+, but I guess I'll just see what works once I get there

>>323941043
I thought the wing spear was nice, but when I got that there was no looking back
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>>323940525
Just keep using the halberd. It's amazing.
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>>323938653

really?
but can you give any examples outside of usage for a very specific task, such as one single boss?
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>>323942231
I used it to build the lifehunt scythe because I thought it looked awesome
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>>323942643
Lifehunt Scythe isn't bad either.
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>>323942767
I'm still not sure how it compares to my +5 fire scythe, but I guess I'll see
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>>323942458
I didn't say they are specific.

Poison resistance is very good for blighttown.
Fire resistance for any fire boss.
etc.
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>>323942954
It has a bleed buildup so it sacrifices some raw damage for that. Still serviceable.
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>people talking about cheats and editing
Wouldn't that get people banned or whatever?
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>>323943060
Yeah, I've only gotten hit by my own bleed damage once with it, so I think I can manage it alright. I'm having some fun running the gold tracer in my offhand slot as a backup weapon
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>>323942767
>>323943060
Is the bleed buildup enough to ruin someone's day? I've been using it in my recent playthrough but haven't PVPd with it yet. Not that I'll hit anyone in PVP anyway.
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>>323943552
I don't know about PvP as I never really do it, but it does work on some bosses if you hit them enough.
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>>323943625
especially assdemons
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>>323943625
I'm not good enough in pvp to land hits fast enough to get the bleed buildup to full, but expect the heavy attacks to do around 300 damage on their own when two handed, which isn't too bad
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>>323944157
we all saw it, retard
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>>323944157
the gold hemmed armour from the demon ruins doesn't give poison res?
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so are some bosses made with co-op in mind?
because i thought bloodborne was easy, but ornstein and smough did not know that they had a second form.
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>>323922815
^^ This get drake sword until you can get an lightning weapon. (spears are really good)
Don't waste all your stat points in endurance.
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>>323944381
O&S are tough but fair solo. But like every boss, they become a joke when you summon.
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>>323922105
don't get drake sword
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>>323944519
I summoned Lautrec and Solaire the first time I fought the gaping dragon just because I had no idea what was coming and thought having two summons would be fucking fun. I don't regret it, the fight was still fun, but it definitely wasn't challenging
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>>323944519
wasn't planning on summoning, i just heard someone say that some bosses were made for co-op and i was curious if they were one of them.
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>>323924412
Rollan
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>>323944787
Baddies believe that because they're bad and wanna justify summoning without admitting that they're bad.
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>>323944787
I can't think of any bosses that were made with co-op in mind.
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>>323924412
ayyyy r o l l
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>>323945261
>tfw my first ever character was more or less Giantdad

didn't even know about the meme
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>>323936114
If you kill Smough first, you get Ornstein's armor, soul and Leo Ring (extra damage on counter attacks with thrust weapons. Spears, rapiers, I think Bows might count)

Killing Ornstein first gets you Smough's soul and armor, but no ring.

When one dies, the other goes "super." Super Smough is a lot easier than Super Ornstein, but it depends on who's armor and weapon you want and if you want the Leo Ring or not.
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>>323922105
>Don't be a top-tier dex build shitter
>shields are for fucking pussies
>parrying is fucking gay
>fat rolling will get you killed
>fast rolling will save your life
>Watch out for pic related

that's it mayne
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>>323944932
>>323944969
okay than thanks for the info, gonna try again.
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>>323944787
I think it depends on the player's skill. Some bosses are definitely easier with summons, but not necessary
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>>323945375
>Super Smough is a lot easier than Super Ornstein

???
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>>323942458
every speedrunner uses high poise armor (stone set) for Nito, and in fact that's a very good strategy for everyone, because no skelly deals a lot of damage, you almost never get stunned and you can hack away at nito peacefully

same for capra demon, using a higher poise set to be able to withstand a few dog attacks without getting stunned is very useful. Once the dogs are taken care of you can remove it mid-fight to get those sweet fast rolls against the demon

Even the area before capra demon, the lwoer burg, is easier with higher poise. Just whack the thieves and dogs without a care in the world for how much damage they do to you, chug some estus once you're done and proceed

the black izalith witch set that you get near ceaseless has high fire resistance, which is useful in izalith
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>>323945375
already decided to go with super ornstein.
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>>323945840
how can you find super ornstein easier than super smough?

super smough is just smough with a bit of lightning here and there, trivial to kill
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>>323945375
>>323946060
but still thanks and also why am i randomly getting extra estus flask?
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>>323946206
Super Ornstein is literally just hide under his legs and hack away, sometimes dodging when he does his AoE or his jump back slash thing. I think super Smoughs AoE has a bigger radius, too.
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>>323945840

He is right though.

It's a lot easier to stunlock Super Smough too than Super Ornstein
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>>323946297
yes and super smough's AoE deals more damage, but it has way slower startup.

Apart from that, super smough is slower in his movements, i know he can be stunned easily (i've neevr managed to stun super ornstein alone, even with +13 Large Club and shit), his attacks are piss easy to dodge and as soon as you're behind a pillar you're safe, whereas super ornstein has several attacks that go through pillars and moves fast so you have to run after him all the time
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>>323930962
I know that feel. I've been shitposting about my broken DS3/cable for the past week.
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for anyone that is interested i beat them thank you for your help /v/
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>>323924412
roll
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>>323947389
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>>323924412
yes, me, i want to roll for this
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>>323947746
you have no idea and with the lordvessel it feels so much better.
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I was mustard only since like 98 before I played DaS. Blew my fucking mind, it was that perfect game I imagined when I was a kid playing Diablo online and imagining the future. Put probably 1000 hours into the game.

I honestly feel really bad when I see people shitpost against Bloodborne. I still main PC, but you really are missing out not playing the game. It was like experiencing DaS for the first time again, everything felt new and strange and that "whoa" moment when you stumble on some shit.
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>>323924412
roll
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>>323924412
966 or 266 plez
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>>323946239
You get a flask when someone kindles the bonfire you last used.
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>>323950170
welp, fuck you gemu
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>>323928548
>>323927672

You're pretty stupid if you're not using cheatengine
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is it just me or does it sound a bit suspicious or a bit weird that that snake-ish guy tells you to go around kill some legendary people to get their souls?
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>>323924412
rololo
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>>323922925
>>323922105

God fuck this image and this thread. Discovering the New Londo Ruins was an absolute joy once I realized the non-linear nature of the game.
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I have a question.

If you give Atorias' soul to Ciaran and then attack her, does she fight with her fists? I mean, she hands over her weapons to you. I can't remember if she leaves immediately or something, but I don't have a savefile to check it out.
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>>323951923

I gave it to her on a save I made a year ago now and she's still fucking there no matter how many times I warp to somewhere else. I like to go over and bow to her each time I get on.
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>>323952126
Kill her, now, so that I will finally know.
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>found Rickert for the first time today

I am legit retarded
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>>323952386

No, please anon.
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>>323951923
She still has her weapons. Souls characters carry hundreds of copies of their equipment to give away.
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>>323952794
I tend to forget he exists. I have maybe spoken to him like two times during all of my I think four play throughs.

>>323952916
Anon, this is more important than your lovey-dovey ego trip.

>>323952926
Ah, thanks. You'd think From's level of attention to detail would have prevented something like this.
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